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but however we haven't reached a final agreement that would satisfy the community concern about the program. >> following on that, the prime minister also paints a broad concern that it might also collaborate in some way. >> there certainly was a lot of discussion about the imported into the strong relationship between the united states and israel. as you know, the security cooperation between the two nations is unprecedented and it continues to grow stronger. this has been manifested most recently by the partnership according to the iron dome
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system and they invested additional funds in n. shore and that of the iron dome system could be well stocked and supplied and continue to provide protection for civilians who are living under the threat of rockets launched by hamas. you've also seen on the numerous occasions stand with israel as they confront the threat that is posed for by the president and this administration have said is steadfast in their right to defend their territory and to defend their citizens from violent provocative actions by hamas. you've also seen the united states in a variety of diplomatic forms defend the efforts to isolate and undermined the standing in the community. ..
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>> they did discuss the nuclear issue. i didn't say then on it, so i can't give a minute by minute. what i'm prepared to do is read up a president obama said and i will let my counterpart in israeli government discussed the prime minister's position. julie. >> i wanted made sure i understand what change this window when the president said this afternoon when he says the
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agency needs a new direction and leadership. i'm wondering, did something happen in to make and lose confidence in her in that time? we are learning now there is video of this whole incident from september 9th teamed that has a wool intrusion into the mansion. is he aware of that decision that ultimately was not going to stop and she had to go? >> i am not aware of the video. there may be some of my counterpart set the white house who wire, but i am not. i can tell you a couple key things have changed in the last few hours. the first is the forcibly director pearson offered a resignation. she did so because she believed it was then the best interests of the agency to which she dedicated her life. the president and secretary of homeland security both agreed with harris has said that it was indeed in the best interest of the agency for her to do so.
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they reached that conclusion because the recent and accumulating reports about the performance of the agency and that is what led the president to believe that new leadership is required. >> when you say recent reports, these are reports about the intruder has been out there for some time. yesterday the incident at the cdc were someone within the the elevator, an armed person in the elevator with the president who wasn't supposed to be there. was that a plan for president obama learning that without dan had not been previously responded to? >> as the plane out -- as they guess i mentioned earlier, that is something the white house learned yesterday minutes before publicly reported. >> i assume that as part of the recent and accumulating reports. go ahead. >> 's morning, after unit that a
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person with a criminal record and a gun -- a >> i've read the report. that is incorrect. >> i have read those reports and i get to reiterate my answer to julie. the most significant change from today that direct your pearson offered her resignation because she herself concluded it would be in the best interest of her agency forward to do so. >> i guess my question is why did in your people including the president determined on around here by feature referred to her to give a resignation? isn't a person with a criminal record and a kind inches away from the president made someone not to be fired here? >> the incident you are referring to the something the white house was made aware of only yesterday, less than 24 hours ago. that occurred just minutes before the report was published for the public to review. they are a, as i believe those published reports referred to,
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dare raise a protocol for investigating security breaches along these lines. and that review is ongoing at the department of homeland security. >> what seems confused as for three days and about you and other white house officials seem kind of home about the idea that a man got into the east room and that another man got inches away from the president with a gun. where is the outrage? where is that we can play this has happened? it as well, we will investigate this and we have full confidence in them. >> it is true that the president and the white house does have full confidence in the united states secret service. these are highly trained commandos go professionals who everyday get out of bed prepared to put their life on the line at a moments notice to protect the white house and the president and the president is appreciative of their work in service to the country. >> in the speech today you mentioned jay johnson. he gave a speech before all this happened in canada talking about the terror threat. he mentioned today with jay
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johnson and said today it's different than a wife and 2001, more centralized, more complex. not only their core al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan, the arabian peninsula and you listed all the affiliates that could still be a threat. or when he mentioned that there is for al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan, is the administration said elaine got more al qaeda is no longer decimated, the air part of this threat matrix? we stand by what is demonstrably true. i think for al qaeda, along the border region between afghanistan and pakistan has been decimated and destroyed because the bravery and courage in the service of our men and women in uniform and are dedicated professionals in the intelligence agencies.
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they were implementing a strategy at the direction of the united states. to decimate and destroy them. that effort has been successful. no longer is there a network that was previously presided over by osama bin laden that could plan and execute a global conspiracy that was years in the making to carry out a large scare terror attack against the united states of america on our shores. that network has been decimated. now, there continue to be threats from that region of the world and other regions of the world, but that threat as the secretary of homeland security said in a speech is different than the threat to existing prior to 9/11. >> i was an important hearing on capitol hill about sergeant popper received by the u.s. arranges been in a mexican jail. there are lawmakers as well as various veterans come forward and said yes ptsd. the president has said it's a very serious issue that he cares deeply about.
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how concerned is this white house that he is still in the mexican jail, has ptsd according to the va doctors and hasn't gotten treatment of several months? >> i can say my colleagues at the state department are very focused on this issue and so i would refer you to them for their efforts to work with the mexican government. >> the republican admiral said today he asked vice president item to last president obama to call the president of mexico directly and get him out of jail and he said that didn't happen. why not? >> i don't live in has because this is an issue being handled through the state department and through the existing channel at the state department. okay, major. >> what is the president standing orders for the military first room use in syria and iraq? he said very specific description about counterterrorism operations where civilians might become casualties. >> major, what i can tell you is there is a very clear directive
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that has been given to the department of defense to take extreme measures to minimize civilian casualties as they are carrying out the military operations the president ordered. that is a priority of our national security. that is a directive from the president of the united states and something the department follows through on. >> so let me just understand. there was a report this morning that what applies elsewhere doesn't apply in iraq and syria. that is there was more latitude because this is a theater of ongoing conflict in operations as seen from a more targeted counterterrorism mission against individuals upon which a lot of intelligence has developed. is that true? >> well, it is difficult for me to get into these intelligence assessments and how these apply to different countries. what i can tell you is that there is a general principle that applies in the execution of
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all of these strategies. we have talked a lot about how the counterterrorism strategy that is currently being applied in iraq and syria to apply continual pressure on these extremist organizations is analogous to the strategy that we have successfully implemented in places like somalia and yemen. in all of those cases the responsibility of the department of defense to take extreme care to minimize the risk of civilian casualties in all of their actions. >> i understand the president and his national defense university, just not in her back. >> well, i can't speak to those kinds and not much detail. what i can speak to is this principle that the president has laid out that applies to the application of our counterterrorism strategy and all of these countries and that is to take extreme care to minimize the risk of civilian casualties in all our actions. [inaudible] >> i don't know of any calls
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between the president and mr. clancy, but i can tell you -- i can look into that for you. >> now what i was driving that was kindly squeamishness about doing anything for saying anything that would publicly apply a standard upon which the secret service cannot fall below. i just want to ask you directly, is it acceptable for someone with a gun, with a checkered criminal past, to be in the elevator with the president of the united states. yes or no. >> major, you referring to this incident we've seen a public report about. i think one thing -- one lesson we have all learned over the last few days is that it is an important word investigation to be conducted to determine the facts about what is actually being reported. so the department of homeland security, consistent with their establishing protocol has been for sometime connecting a review of this specific incident.
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so i am not going to get in front of that investigation, but that is something being handled. >> do you think the radically that is acceptable? >> common sense would indicate to you that it's not. but here's the thing, nature, i don't want anybody to suggest somehow if the confirmation of what's been reported here to >> the reason we are curious is because we were given an assessment of the september 19 fass jumper that in comport with the actual facts at all. and people in this thrilling new within a matter of hours what actually happened, which the public could learn about for a good number of days. all i'm trying to find out if you will publicly assert on behalf of the president of the united states what is or isn't acceptable when it comes to protecting him, this property and his family. >> what is the question you are asking? >> what is the standard acceptable for the secret service do not fall beneath the defense, that a man next to the
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president with a gun, is there any standard you can play these various reports it had a good deal of credibility that you can say publicly that is unacceptable. the president doesn't believe it is acceptable. >> while major, i am not sure what you're driving at. i think common sense, i would relatively proceed to the common sense that it is unwise and unacceptable for a situation like the one you were describing to take place. but that said, there is an ongoing investigation into this particular incident and i am not going to comment on the facts of that incident without having direct knowledge myself of that incident. let me say broader in terms of principles that there are some principles at play here, that the united states secret service is comprised of highly trained, highly skilled -- highly skilled professionals who are trained to protecting the president, his family and the white house and that is very important work. at the same time, that is their
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top priority as it should be. at the same time, they have to balance that for your date with the need to ensure that the hundreds of people who work here, including all of you, have regular and at least as convenient as possible, access to their work place. that requires a different set of security protocols to ensure people can have relatively easy access to the place where they work. in addition to that, there are thousands of people who entered the white house today to tour the people's house. and again, there are security protocols that need to be put in place to ensure those individuals are screened, but again, without impeding their access to this building. so this is complicated work. but the challenge that is before the secret service is to balance all those equities in a way that protect public access, that protects the access of everybody that works here, but ultimately protect the safety and well-being of the president in
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the first family. >> there were several protests, one large protest going on, for several days, secretary of state john kerry said he's interested in that been resolved peacefully and no conflict in the chinese authorities not to use any means i wish to change the direction of the protest. the chinese foreign minister said it's a matter of internal security and avoid all should basically bowed out. what does the white house think about what is happening and what should be happening? >> major, the united states is watching closely the situation in hong kong. around the united states, we support international fundamental freedoms including the freedom of peaceful freedom of expression. we urge the hong kong authority to exercise restraint. we also urge the protesters to express their views peacefully. but the bottom line is the united states supports universal suffrage in hong kong and we support the aspirations of the hong kong people. we believe in an urban society with the highest possible degree of autonomy and governed by the rule of law is essential for
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hong kong's stability and prosperity and indeed this is what has made hong kong such a successful in truly global city. we have consistently made known our position to beijing and will continue to do that. john. >> just a clarification on the incident with the cdc. earlier you said the white house learned of it shortly before it was reported and now in the last couple of exchanges, you have read about in the published reports. what is that? were you informed about it before the support of public where did you learn about it from the published reports? >> john, what i was trying to explain is the white house was informed of this incident shortly before it was publicly reported. but i am reluctant to comment on it myself because my only knowledge of this incident is a stunned public reports. >> so you want to be personally informed.
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>> is correct. there isn't not going investigation into that particular incident being conducted by the department of homeland security. >> okay, on a bowler, the president was informed of the existing a bullet casing the u.s. u.s., texas, before what was announced? >> that is correct. the president received a call from dr. friedman, director of the cdc. >> what is the president's reaction? is he alarmed about dean and ebola case in the united states? >> that is not how i would describe this action. the president is eager to ensure that the advice of medical professionals, particularly those experts at the cdc are being followed. and early indications are that this individual is receiving the necessary medical treatment in a way that would attack the doctors and nurses that are providing that treatment.
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the protocols -- necessary protocols are in place to assess other patients at the hospital. there are currently 18 the cdc professionals on the ground in north texas doing what is called contact tracing. what they are doing is trying to make contact with any individual who may have had contact with this particular patient while he was exhibiting symptoms of ebola. again, the only way people can be transmitted is through bodily fluids of someone already exhibiting symptoms. what they are attempting to do is locate individuals and they will monitor them over the course of a 21 day incubation period to see if they develop symptoms. and if they do, those individuals who exhibit symptoms will then be quarantined and provide ethical treatment. again, in order to prevent the spread of ebola. this is the medical protocol that provides a lot of elbow grease, but doesn't require a lot of sophistication. that is why the president has
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confidence in what dr. friedman himself has asserted, that we have the ability to stop this ebola virus in its tracks. >> so the odds, the chances of an ebola epidemic in the united states are quite low? >> they are incredibly low. the reason is simply that it's not possible to transmit ebola through the air. you can't get people that buy drinking water or eating food here in the united states. the only way an individual can contract ebola is by coming into contact with the bodily fluids of an individual already exhibiting symptoms of ebola. >> quick question. what is the future -- [inaudible] >> the president was very pleased with the opportunity he had to visit with prime minister mooney. it reflects the depth of the
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strong relationship between united states and india that the two leaders are able to come together and discuss a broader way of topics. each of those topics represents an area of important cooperation between our two countries. the president certainly value the opportunity he had to visit personally. it was the first opportunity the two men had had to meet in person. i know the president enjoyed the visit with prime minister moe dee to the martin luther king junior and i am confident that as the relationship between our countries progresses, so will those areas. >> idea mac -- [inaudible] >> that is good here the presidents enjoyed it. >> banks, josh. i want to go back for a minute to the elevator incident.
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i understand there is not going investigation, but i'm wondering about standard operating procedure and protocol if there is an incident where it is clear that the president would be in danger or the secret service proposals are broken, with the white house expect to be notified because clearly it doesn't take an investigation to know they knew right after that the guy had a gun. >> well, chris, further details related to the protocol have been referred to the secret service. >> does the white house expect to be notified if something like that happen? >> i think there is a serious breach of the president security that we would anticipate at a minimum the white house officials would be formed in a timely fashion. again, for the specific for the specifics as it relates to the policies already in place at the secret service, i would refer you to the department of homeland security. >> in just the last couple of weeks there were two in events in a matter of three days.
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how's the president been briefed beyond that meeting that he had with the now former head of this secret service about changes that have been made that make him confident, given that there were two breaches just within the last couple of weeks? >> chris, the president was briefed by director pearce and just last week and that was after the reports of the individual who scaled the fence of the north lawn. the immediate aftermath, there were changes made to bypass a charity to strengthen the perimeter and strength and security around the white house. the president was informed of this specific security changes, but this is also the subject of a broader review and it certainly seems possible that deputy secretary at the department of homeland security could conclude that additional security reforms are necessary
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and they will be evaluated diverse panel of outside experts and we continue to have confidence that the necessary changes will be properly implemented to ensure the safety and security of the president, for sale in the white house. >> the senior staff in president, particular that might involve security while traveling. >> well, the other thing the secret service has had on a number of occasions as the security posture of the white house and at the security team around the president is something constantly being reviewed and updated. those are the kinds of changes that are consistent with the assessment of the threat environment. they are also consistent with the need for americanization like the secret service to continually bat that continuing changing environment. the changes in security may be obvious to the public and many of them aren't. but as i said a couple of times,
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the president, the president and evelyn at the white house continues to have full confidence in the highly trained and highly skilled professional secret service who are responsible for protecting the president. >> let me ask you finally understanding the julia pearce and offered her resignation. with any political pressure brought to bear over the concern that the controversies, which were described by democrats as everything for an outrageous to completely unacceptable, and a political pressure over concerns on the effects it might have on the term? >> no, i don't think this has anything to do with politics. just. >> could anyone tell to rector pierson it was time to go where did she come to it on her own? >> director pierson offered her resignation today because it was the best interest of the agency. they agreed with the assessment. there have been important questions raised about the accumulated reports of
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shortcomings that the agency and the president and secretary concluded the new leadership or as required. >> when switching topics, earlier today the oval office, prime minister ned and yahoo! said to defeat isis, we think everybody should support this in the circle in preventing iran. is it more critical to stop iran from becoming a nuclear power? >> obviously, the press threats from both of those things are different, but the president certainly believes both of them are key national security priorities. >> thanks again for the visit. do you have anything concrete beyond the nature which can be showcased to the indian public that the prime minister and sent being delivered via
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>> a couple things about that. i refer you to the fact sheet that we did put out. as a pre-detailed list of the agreements reached between the president and prime minister. again, they are indicative of the wide range of areas where the united states and india have a strong cooperative partnership. the president certainly values that aspect of the relationship between our two countries. i also think that the indian people saw the reports and images. they saw the president of the united states and the prime minister of india sitting down side-by-side in the oval office discussing shared interests and priorities between our two countries. the people of india saw the president traveled with prime minister modi to the martin luther king junior memorial and that sends a pretty clear signal about the shared values of our two countries in democracies. it also demonstrated a shared commitment of our two democracy here at him like i said, the
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president really enjoyed the visit and i think it is indicative of the kind of a strong partnership that exists between the two leaders in between our two countries. >> the minister of india join isis. >> whinger the partnership we have with india, the shared commitment to combating terrorism, both countries, both india and the united states are dealing with rats. and we value the strong relationship that we have, that we can cooperate to meet those threats, to confront those threats and to mitigate the risk that they pose to our citizens, both at home and around the world. john, i'll give you the last one. >> thank you very much, josh.
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you mentioned earlier in discussing the panel, the possibility that the next director could come from a night of the secret service, correct? >> yes, that is a possibility. >> i would wonder if you consider this to be the first time since 1932 that a director has been not a secret service agent. that would be frank wilson who was an irs agent and it would represent and et year -- 80 year seismic change. is this something the panel has discovered and discussed at the white house? >> the panel hasn't been formed yet. once it is formed, they will consider the review are done by the deputy secretary. it will consider possible candidates for the position of director of secret service and they will have candidates both
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inside the agency as well as potential candidates outside the agency as well. thanks very much, everybody. >> here's a story for "the associated press," secret service julia pierson has resigned. homeland security secretary jeh johnson said there is a resignation and he accepted it. come in one day after her appearance before the house oversight and government reform committee and a congressional hearing that focused on recent security lapses at the white house. ms. pierson had worked at the secret service for 30 years. tonight, special presentation the 2014 "new york times" ideas festival. we'll show you a march from former arizona congressman, gabby differs in an event looking at new efforts to cure cancer. also discussed, the future of finance. that starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span 3.
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>> last week, the family research council at its annual
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values voter summit in washington. the next panel that the same-sex marriage and heard remarks from for a vice presidential candidate, sarah palin and former governor bobby jindal. these back ♪ >> thank you. i will ask the members of my panel to come on out on stage and join me here where your name card is. i am going to introduce them individually when i get to the japan one at a time. the institution of marriage has been under stress for at least two generations now. the revolution joke sexual relations out of the marital bedroom and into any bedroom and increasingly into the public square itself.
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no-fault divorce undermines the permanence of the marriage bond. cohabitation has increasingly become a substitute for marriage. but the suffering of the less powerful bonds virtually sex and procreation to marriage has now reached its culmination in the effort to change the very definition of marriage at itself. the idea that marriage is intrinsically by definition the union of one man and one woman, which would have been taken for granted for almost the entire history of western civilization has gone from being universally self-evident to being in the eyes of many, including some federal judge as, utterly incomprehensible. last year, the u.s. supreme court issued a ruling in the windsor case, striking down the federal definition of marriage
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as the union of a man and a woman for all purposes under federal law, according to the defense of marriage act. but they dodged the issue of state definitions of marriage by not issuing a ruling on the merits regarding california's property. subsequent challenges, state by state across the country however a half years the rationale of the windsor ruling to challenge the law and in many cases constitutional amendments adopted by the people. each of our guests today offered a unique day of of the irreplaceable institution of marriage. and i am going to turn first to eric teetsel. eric teetsel is executive director of the manhattan declaration, a call of christian conscience on life, marriage and religious liberty, which was founded by chuck olsen in 2009. he works to match of the
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declaration serves not only of the manifesto, but a movement which continues to inform the public about these issues. eric attended wheaton college. he worked at colorado christian university before coming to washington to serve with the values and capitalism project at the american enterprise institute. last year, eric was one of several young leaders profiled in "the new york times" under the headline come again opponents of gay marriage, battle ahead. please welcome eric teetsel. [applause] eric, i am going to start with a bread question for you. why does marriage matter to society? >> how much time do you have? i was thinking about this panel today and realized it was five years ago this sunday by chuck olsen passed robby george about through the first draft of what came to be known is the
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manhattan declaration. as you said, a manifesto, a wake-up call to the church to be the church of the most important issues of our time, life, marriage and religious liberty. i thought i would read a bit of what the manhattan has to say about this question. it describes marriage as nothing less than the crowning achievement of god's creation. marriage is the first institution of human society. indeed, it is the institution on which all other human institutions have their very foundation and vast human experience claims it is the most important institution for sustaining the health, welfare and education of all persons in a society. marriage matters to case it is good and it plays a central role in god's story for the world in which we live. that fact i think is -underscore iowa for me is one of the
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coolest reality about scriptures testimony when it comes to the question of marriage. the bible begins with a wedding in a garden between adamant he and ends with a wedding in a city between christ and his church. [applause] >> very good. >> now, the millennial generation has seen high levels of divorce in their parents generation, yet graduated high school students according to surveys continue to tell us overwhelmingly that they desire marriage to be part of their future. in spite of the poor modeling and they may have seen of marriage in many cases, what does this desire to last about the powerful good that that marriage can face. >> well, it tells us some rain. i suppose it tells us that things could be worse.
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there is something deep inside even this generation that has no idea what marriage is, has no idea why marriage matters, has no understanding or conception why the biblical meaning of marriage should have anything to do with our laws understanding of marriage. but yeah, they still, somewhere deep down inside have been sent that i should get married, that's a good thing. unfortunately, they are not getting married here don't think the statistics that just came out from pew to just under half of young adults between the ages of 25 and 34 are married. but as a fourfold increase from what i was in 1960. my parents generation, the generation before them have been exactly left a legacy of marriage for my generation to understand and grab onto and that is why i'm happy to be part of a movement that is trying to rebuild the foundation of marriage. the same-sex marriage movement is only the latest in what has been a decade-long breakdown in
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our understanding of the role of marriage and families and society. we got to start there and fight against that, but ours is a much greater project. tell people the website for the manhattan declaration. >> the manhattan declaration can be signed online, www.manhattendeclaration.org. we hope you'll read and share with others. >> this is something you can sign online. the more powerful a statement makes to our society, so when courage you to go to that site and sign the manhattan declaration. let me move onto our next guest to as a a member of congress, representative vicki hartzler is representing the fourth district here in washington. she previously served three terms as member of the missouri house of representatives. she and her husband lowell on a
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company that sells farm equipment and live with their daughter on a working farm in cass county, missouri. i want to mention personally i still remember so well the first time i met mrs. hartzler was here at the values voter summit and she was outline or promoting a book on christians running for office, ran a god say, something like that. so what is really carried to see someone like this having put those principles into action and being elected to congress. [applause] give her a hand, yes. now, the key question -- one of the key questions about marriage is what is marriage? but a second key question is who decides? now, missouri is one of the 30
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states that amended its constitution to define marriage as the union of one man and one woman. you were very active in that campaign back in 2004 i believe was there. tell us why you cited was important for the people of your estate to act in defense of marriage. >> well, that was right after the 2004 supreme court decision in massachusetts for a few unelected, unaccountable judges overrule the will of the people in massachusetts and said we know better what the definition of narrative that we don't care what you think about it. the missouri's legislature as well as many as well as many other state assemblies across our country were very proactive in putting it on our ballot for the voters to decide what we wanted a marriage. and i was asked to be the spokesperson for that campaign and ended up helping with that. it was quite an experience because our election was in august. i believe there were 10 other states who have their election in november. so missouri became a focal point
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for the entire national debate at that time. and even though we were outspent 22 to one and the other professional organizations who were opposed to the amendment flooded our states with professional offices and staff and we were just a grassroots volunteer organization, our voters, are citizens came out that november and we spoke loud and clear with 71% of the vote that we think it is five public policy for marriage to be between a man and a woman. and i'm very thrilled. [applause] >> now, in the last year we've seen a number of federal judges vote to strike down the state definitions of marriage. this has raised concerns for a lot of us about the balance of power, both between the state and the federal government and between the three branches of government.
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.. being challenged as has been all across this country, and we had our first hearing yesterday where that was heard in court and i am praying and hoping that the judges will rule in
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louisiana that said social decisions should be decided by the people and not by judges. so we are hoping for that. ' this be mac as i mentioned in the introduction last year, the u.s. supreme court struck down a portion of the federal defense of marriage act which had required the federal government to recognize only the union of one man and one woman as marriages. the obama administration since then has been very aggressive in pushing this recognition the broadest possible interpretation of the ruling. but several pieces of legislation have been introduced in congress seeking to address some of the concerns people have about religious liberty and so forth. can you talk a little bit about those? like there's a couple i'm cosponsoring.
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first is that marriage and religious liberty act that hopes to address some of the concerns of the federal government coming out of private businesses or nonprofit organizations and withholding federal support for them. and that law specifically says the federal government cannot in any way harm an individual or business or entity because they uphold marriage and that means they can't withhold loans or grants or contracts or other federal programs that perhaps that business would be interested in. there's another bill in the foster care and adoption system and they they they worked on adoption issues for many years and in a strong supporter of that. we have 400,000 children right now in foster care with about 25%, which is around 100,000 that are available for adoption and wanting a home. yet we have the federal government going after some private foster care and adoption agencies and withholding their
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tax-exempt status or contracts with the government because they simply believe that those children deserve to be with the father and mother. and that is wrong and we have introduced a child welfare provider inclusion act which would prevent the federal government from being able to do that and would make sure that every agency that wants to see these kids getting home has the opportunity without federal interference. [applause] the >> our next guest, aaron and melissa klein are not like other panelists. they are not elected officials, theologians, policy analysts. they are the owners of a bakery called sweet cakes by melissa. [applause]
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they already know you. [laughter] i did some research and preparing this. i went on the nexis news search engine and put in sweet cakes by melissa and searched for the last two years and the very first article that came up was the leading paper in portland oregon that said this in their travel section. they said further east on main a strip mall is host to come home to sweet cakes by melissa. she also has cupcakes like red velvet and cinnamon, chocolate ribbon. in the and old should, you've learned. they are not quite as flattering because when they returned to the news that was because they had joined the growing number of christian business people who would face the choice of
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sacrificing their conscience or their business in the face of demand by homosexual activists and now by the state of oregon that they participate in the celebration of a same-sex wedding by making a customized cake for that event. now, before we talk about this cake that you're involved in, can you, one or both of you tell us about the process of designing and producing a wedding cake, the process that you use? this is it just a matter of pulling a cake off the shelf is it clicks >> no, it's definitely not. with our business, everything we do this from scratch. and it's more than just throwing ingredients into the oven and throwing frosting on it. for a wedding we sit down with the bride and groom and
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sometimes the mother and the pride and for me personally when i sit down from them, i would want to know everything about her wedding and her flowers and addressing the centerpieces of her colors, the way her hair was going to be. i wanted to see her ring. i even would talk about where are you going on your honeymoon. [applause] sorry. i don't mean to get emotional. it just really touches my heart. but anyway, i would sit with them and i would sketch designs
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and sometimes it would take several different designs until we got the perfect cake that matched. sometimes it would take two hours of sitting in a cake tasting. if they chose me to do their cake -- i'm sorry. [applause] i would just feel so honored to be able to be part of such an amazing special day. spin is there anything you want to add? the >> even before we opened the storefront, we actually dedicated the shop.
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the work that was done -- [applause] i can't say say it more forcefully than what it came down to is she has a god-given talent to create a work of art, to celebrate a union between two people and to use that in a manner that would be in the face of the pipe is i couldn't in good conscience agree to do it. [applause] they are somewhat limit it in what they can say about the actual incident, the actual
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interaction with the people who complained about them but you were not only attacked on the social media and in the press, but eventually legal action was taken against you. can you tell us a just just a little about what they did and what was done and what you were forced to do as a result. spin it up to this point, the girls filed a complaint with the bureau of industry that has now gone into the process where they found evidence that suggested that we like you said were facing litigation at this point and the next at the next couple of weeks as far as the court date. in the end, the boycotting and the iraq smith delete the -- harassing and the other vendors we do business with it cut off the system. we had to shut down the shop.
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she does limited cakes out of our house. we are facing in excess of $150,000 in damages for this just for simply standing by my first amendment rights. on on the outcome of the state has told me that merely speaking about this could be construed as advertising. that i would discriminate and could be fined additionally for that. >> talk to us about your conscience you made reference to the conscience how does it make you feel to be basically told that you have to violate the conscience? >> for me personally they are going to convey a message than it other than i want to convey is in the face of the constitution. it's a violation of my freedom
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it's horrible to see your own government doing this to you. they've been good and provided up to this point. pray for our attorneys we have excellent team of attorneys fighting this and plan to appeal any decision that would be contrary to standing up for our religious freedom and pray for wisdom for them and honestly. they have made it clear at this point that he believes that he has broken the law. they said we had religious freedoms don't have the right to break the law. in a saying that he's already declared over delta. >> i said pray for him however changing of his mind.
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>> she came in and she fought and paid for her mother's wedding cake. it's about marriage and the event events. >> let's give a big hand. [applause]
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[applause] >> thank you so much you don't know how that makes me feel. >> thank you. >> our final guest has a tough act to follow. spin it i expect the same over a shame -- ovation. it's been mac of the national religious broadcasters located here in the washington, d.c. area their mission is to advance biblical truth to promote media excellence and to defend free speech. doctor johnston previously served as the president of the college in dallas texas and in addition to his work and education, he has also pastored
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the churches in texas and colorado. doctor johnson is married mary and he and his wife have two children. please welcome doctor gary johnson. [applause] >> doctor johnson, since you are involved in the media and broadcasting the first question i wanted to ask what role have they played in the campaign to redefine marriage. to go back in 2008 and the president was elected the first time in the speech you should remember in the inauguration speech be listed rich, poor guy and straight and that was huge and the media picked up on that. they switched from gay and straight to lgbt. i don't know if anyone has marked the switch but now it is
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lgbt. straight isn't even in that mix. that's an interesting mix. you've got five and i looked on the website of the other day and there are about 25 different sexual identities and orientations now that some would want to identify. but the mainstream media keeps repeating this, writing it in the scripts, repeating the lingo and it is affecting us and that is the things i want to say. be very careful how you talk about these issues because part of the debate is in the language itself. >> what role can the christian media play in publicizing the case for the natural definition of marriage. >> we can do a better job at one of the things we talk about is when it comes to the first amendment, use it or lose it.
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radio or television if you have a blog or you do a podcast or youtube, talk about this if you are a pastor preach about this, talk about national marriage, traditional, historical. you can also come to the panel discussion because we will be talking about the fact that in canada sermons are turned in on wednesday for editing. talk about a major broadcaster and on thursday they can make the corrections and on friday if they haven't changed if they run the sermons. we have to not live under some kind of a self imposed sharia law. we have the first amendment freedom to speak and to exercise and we should use it.
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>> very good. thank you. [applause] you have a career in higher education, so my last question for you there is what do you think we need to be doing to educate the younger generation about the importance of marriage and to equip young christians to defend marriage and public square? >> we have to challenge these assumptions. they want to be on the cutting edge and so one of the main arguments that he will hear is you will hear is you don't want to be on the wrong side of history. let's take that for a moment. it's not about history. it's about the future. they are not talking about history. they are talking about what they want the future to be or maybe they are talking about this one for this year were the last ten years. history is on our side. the last hundreds of years of
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american history. our culture has recognized traditional, natural marriage. that has been the cultural norm. you go beyond that to the judeo-christian history and on the passage that we hear so often it's true that paul went back to genesis one is that this choice is a rejection of the creator into the creativity of her by the natural order. you used the word natural order. male and female. so we are talking about thousands of years of judeo-christian heritage. but we do know is that cultures that have chosen this path in the past have not ended well.
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and the future is what they are talking about, not the past. i think we've got to be biblical. we've got to be practical, and above all things, we'd have to talk about it. and let's talk about protecting, protecting natural marriage. >> i couldn't have said it better myself. please give a big hand to the panel. thank you. [applause] ♪ ♪ ladies and gentlemen it is my honor to introduce one of the most courageous women i have ever heard of. i absolutely love it think it is
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totally hilarious, like count dracula with holy water when you drop the name sarah palin. [applause] >> if you would take a look at the monitor is that we will meet sarah palin. ♪ spinet across the country every day americans are standing up and they are speaking out and based on what i've seen there is a lot in america.
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>> it's very nice. it's not just me. it's so many americans. we are seeing a great awakening. that is why it's so important for people to get and aged. look around you. you are not alone. >> her courage and her strength. >> they need to fight an aggressive fight. >> she is principal. >> hopefully i can inspire others to effect positive change. >> she plays by her own rules. >> she is a patriot.
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solutions come from you. let's do what we know. ♪ ♪ >> thank you very much. ♪ >> thank you so much. ♪ >> thank you very much. it is an honor to get to be here with all of you and i just want to take some time to thank you
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for your boldness and courage and your ignoring of what the mainstream media says to you and a lot of us so often. you are strong and america you and me your voice teresa grade so to get to share some of that to empower us all and inspire us all to enlarge our rains. i want to take the time to thank you. being here truly it is an honor and a speaking to americans who give more and volunteer more and serve more to do all those things. there is a book out there that maybe some of them haven't understood and indexed it says consider it pure joy my sisters and brothers when you suffer the trials of many kinds and considering the trials this is
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the most joyful room in washington. [cheering] the time is short here for us to do all that we can in order to effect positive change. so, or you ready to fight back and get back on the right track? [applause] it is time. it's time. against this imperial president and and a filled liberal agenda and the lapdogs in the media. any strongmen it is time to get off of the end and expanded the reins and inspire others. i think that we have all that and that's enough for what it's all ahead. so it is time to stand and fight like your country's future depends on it because it does. take time to rejoice.
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in a few years it is going to be the end of an error, the obama error. [applause] >> all of that stuff that just didn't work, not even a smidgen. remember the column in the stadium full of the fainting fans and all that stuff promising plan is going to chill out and see he called the cities. and you could keep your health care. but where are we now? we are so over the false promises of a utopia that man was going to create on earth. if only we could just understand what they were doing.
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no, we are over that and we are ready to get back to work and to get back to the core values that made america great. the one promise that america has kept is the one thing that we really must undo to save the country we didn't need to make this fundamental transformation of america. we need the fundamental restoration of all that is good and strong and free that made america so great. and we must be united. our core values are courage and fortitude and generosity and hard work. you know, they can actually be what it is that holds us all together. all americans rich and poor, every race every background. it's hard to beat time to end the politics of division and demographics and identity groups
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and the tactics of distraction. the status quo has to go. united we will be able to stand because of these out of touch elitists that have been running the show. they used to rail against the big brother government. it's to play the politics of personal distraction against anyone they would deem to be a threat and they distract from one scandal after another knowing that there are so many that you can't keep up with all of them so no one is ever held accountable from the irs corruption to you being spied on to the bailouts to bush's war was bad but the red lines on the
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back nine. barack's bombs, they are the bomb. goodness sake our honored military when they talk about these national security issues our honor of military on behalf of all americans who do support you and we honor you and respect you. on behalf of all americans who feel like i do to your commander in chief, we then will salute him. [applause] i haven't learned how to salute. [laughter] it is time to end the division
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of politics and for the politics of values. and i don't want anybody to be afraid or ashamed of the core values that we are here celebrating. what are they x. truth is a value. i know all about that difference between truth and the lies that they can to love you nearly everyday. my family sees something in the paper every day that we would never have known had we not read it in the paper. [laughter] i learned the other day that i'm in the middle of another divorce or the same divorce i guess i don't know. but i read it so it must be true. a picture way and in a liberal blog. that's where it started. it was a picture of me after a workout and i didn't have my
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ring on. i rarely wear a ring especially up in alaska chopping wood or butchering a moose or something. [laughter] but by the way what the heck business is it of the liberal haters anyway why are they so intolerant? who cares. [applause] so i'm out in the shop with todd and by the way he shares his best. he's not able to be here because it is moose season and he had one more flight. he's winterizing the plane and i'm helping him. i'm chatting. [laughter] and i caught a headline that they and we've been together since high school so i predict what he's going to say.
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so this time after reading the headline he says is that the same that of a ruthless time? is it still the same 20 million? writes me the check. [laughter] it's kind of tragic to say it but at this point what difference does it make? we are used to it. [applause] i'm sure it'll it will come up tomorrow. we expect it. and you are there, too. it is what happens to you, too. calling you the intolerant ones and that's a disgusting charge of being racist?
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join me in telling the mainstream media where your scorn with pride. you can't defeat our army then. so all you can do is change the subject. so the these when. ' and pulling the race card, how much longer do you think -- it's not even smart when one simply want our government to live within its means and not tacked us beyondcoming, not to mortgage our kids future, and that being for today's selfish ones. because of that we are racist blacks when you try to slap that on to doctor ben carson and ted cruz and my husband.
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those truly prejudiced folks just remember this is a screen racism just to end the debate. you learn with truth which i know is an endangered species which i'm 1400 pennsylvania avenue anyway. he just can't stop telling lies. he just said that the islamic state isis isn't islamic. do you know who that is the news to? it is the news to thousands of muslims who joined the death cult. so if the islamic state isn't islamic why does it have such a pill around the muslim world
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class like jonah goldberg asked if they aren't then why do we give them a -- just like those pre- plans it's coming coming, terrorist attacks. they are now only caused by youtube. americans can handle the truth. in fact, we crave the truth. ignorance and deception. they are the enemies of democracy. so by the way we can survive this president. the question is can we survive the people that voted for him a second time? [applause] it's the truth that will set us free and freedom is another. under the three strikes, obama pelosi reid they are shackled to
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death and corruption. for instance the most powerful agency the irs decides independent tea party patriots all of a sudden are the enemy of the people. and the irs decides that it needed to know the content of the pro-life group prayers and it would conduct two years of the -- adoptive parents they would audit. but the population of most closely examined they are the people that would extend their hearts into their homes to the downtrodden and the helpless. how about that irs and to advance liberty and justice for all when you target americans
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right back at you he gets to target you. do you think that it's time to abolish the irs? [applause] [cheering] well, what can you expect from the liberal elite is now decides he's going to have religious freedom and who doesn't? we crave liberty and kiss our sons and daughters in uniform could buy -- goodbye. for those of you that have served i love being able to point you out even if you get embarrassed and i like to ask you to stand up so that we can honor you. we can salute you and thank you united states military. we love you.
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[cheering] it gives me goosebumps. liberty and justice for all. you secured it for us and encourage america's finest to hang in there and keep fighting for it. so, liberty and justice for all even for those that we would disagree with. as it is an inherent god-given passion and the need to be free. he created us with a drive to be free. we in this room know it and lived it. we are the liberty movement. men and women serving in the military look at the representation of the military here in this room. you have secured the movement
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that liberates all united states citizens to dream and think and believe and god put dreams and you. you've got to go get them. that's how you live life vibrantly with no regrets and you need freedom to do that. we are not afraid of liberty because we know that in the free and open debate our common sense ethical fair ideas when. but that's why they are afraid and desperate and divisive because you are there threat. you value life. you value equal to the end of stairs then because they know that they can't argue against those things. finally, it is courage that is a value. you will be able to hear more about marianne abraham as the sudanese christian who refuse to
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renounce her face with her life on the line in her children's lives on the line the anchor held for her and she explained her faith was her strength. she was in the testimony for the rest of the world to see what courage is. it is her strength coming from god and she is not hesitant to share that with the world. i'm thankful that this group will take the time to honor her this weekend. and also -- [applause] that is so admirable. also we have over fellow american pastor. remember and i'm sure that you've heard over the next couple of years because this is the two-year anniversary into being in prison, still in prison in iran just because he's a
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christian. he won't renounce his faith. he shares moving letters and changing lives. they are coming from his prison cell and they are letters every american should read this we won't take for granted what it is that we have here with our freedom. his courage and marianne's for now this is seen throughout the world as christians. those being sold into slavery are in the full-scale ethnic cleansing happening before our eyes yet they stand firm. the least that we can do is to stand with them with courage. so, friends, the accuser would say that you are the divisive one. the media is trying to save the basic core value divide how can
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truth and liberty and opportunity and courage and wife do they decide? only underscored up leadership would they be considered as something to decide. don't be a shame as to if to proclaim your values and let them. we are the movement that says yes, great virtues, great values, and approaching elections we are going to support great leaders that are hammering out and working so hard at the restoration agenda. it's great that the country is free again from the failed liberal agenda defeating the crony capitalism and respecting and supporting again our armed forces so that we may have peace through red, white and blue strength and to value the sanctity where the children are not seen as disposable and
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babies as punishment as our own president referred to. children are the best ingredients in this world. why in the world what would you want to get rid of them? [applause] lets support leaders that are not afraid of truth then we will fight for it as one worthy of the great nation. a value voters don't let them get you down. america needs you to need your energy and confidence and your voice. and we do need to expand the ring. the process of doom and fear that as messengers of the vibrant life and hope we are value voters and they are the founders tell use. they are america's values. and our message is the message
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that america wants to hear you needs to hear. so, as we fundamentally restore america, keep faith in that. he paced in the american dream and share it because the message resonates and it has that band of brothers. we can be optimistic as they were. we can be optimistic about the future of the one nation because we are under god so sign. the best is yet to come. thank you for what you do and put up wet. god bless you united states of america. ♪
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♪ >> thank you, governor. colorful speech, governor. appreciate so it so much that she is on our side. [applause] the next speaker is an attorney, national columnist and the author of several best-selling books including persecution how liberals are waging war against christians. the great destroyer barack obama's or on the republic and public but will be doing a book signing after the session today, jesus on trial a lawyer who affirms the gospel. ladies and gentlemen we are delighted to have him back in the summit. would you please join me in
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welcoming to the stage mr. david limbaugh. ♪ >> thank you very much. sarah palin asked how long do you think the democrats will play the race card and i know how considerate she is. she was giving me a segue to my speech about eternal issues. [laughter] there will be no cessation of playing the race card. and i have to apologize for shamelessly promoting my book. i know nothing else. so please allow me to discuss this book today with you and i
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will try not to be too self-congratulatory. why did i write this book? i studied the bible for years and years. i became 80s b. the leader 20 or so years ago. but i didn't think i may become a daily for studying it for this because some people have mistakenly understood. but i had dinner with a couple of grade school and high school friends into some of of them are skeptics. one of them is more than the other and he said attorney i don't i don't see how any rational person can be a christian. always be prepared to give the reasons for your faith and do it for a generous respect. i was respectful enough that i didn't really get there so i filed that for future reference. then within three days i think that my great publisher invited me to write a book on this very subject which i chose to interpret as providential prompting. whether it was or not i don't
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know. but initially i thought the idea thinking i'm not a trained theologian so maybe i ought not do this. after considering it a little bit more, it occurred to me precisely because i'm not a trained theologian i might be able to reach people in the secular arena because that is the platform and being a former skeptic i might be able to relate to people but the trained theologian who may never have the kind of doubt i did could relate to them. this is different of other apologetic books because i don't just examine the proof for the evidence for the truth of the christianity claims. i do that comprehensively but i also go into my own spiritual journey to establish a foundation of how i made a transformation from nonbeliever to believer and i also structured the book with the consent in a way that reflects my personal journey and part of
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that is a lot of what got me over the so-called intellectual obstacles that may have been something else, i don't know. but part of the way i got over it is studying the bible itself. part of my message here and my skeptic is take a second or first look if that is the case. they claim to have the cover of conversion given the chance to see what happens. don't bb for other people have told you. don't be leads the bible being the math. give it a chance even if you're not looking at it thinking it the word of god you might find out later that it is. i had a friend who is the lieutenant governor in missouri who brought his classmates home to visit his parents during the christmas break pretty much every year and he brought steve springer. we were sitting around the fireplace and talking about
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christianity. i always believed in god but i didn't necessarily believe in the bible or necessarily that jesus was divine. steve, instead of getting defensive in the course of the discussion went to his guest bedroom, got the bible, brought it back and showed me a reference bible and showed me how passages in the old testament were interconnected with the old testament and the new testament and how integrated it wasn't frankly i'm embarrassed to admit how ignorant i was but i didn't really know that it is that fanatically integrated and i was kind of blown away that i was just one seed that would later come to fruition some 20 years while i don't know how long that quite a few years later when i became a believer and i told steve when he came back to visit on another occasion years ago you don't have any idea the impact you had on me
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spiritually. i went to my library because they had come to see me, took at the back and i think that he was emotionally moved that he had had that impact. so, fellow christians when you go out and evangelize, don't let your ego got into it and. [applause] >> would ultimately cost me over the hump from intellectual beliefs i read paul little and that christian politics. i read so many of these things before i became a bb grandson after. i know that the tipping point came at a christian businessman's prayer group went to some other celebrity speaker was speaking a different people came different years and after
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he spoke, we were asked to sign a card if we wanted to learn more way i felt a little foolish, but someone guess who led me to find that card. i signed the card and within a few days we were meeting three of my friends and peter was one of them by the way. so we all met with the two leaders and they took us through a book called first steps which introduced us to the foreign concept that all scripture is and the prophecies and i want to tell you when i saw that the prophet micah in the old testament had predicted the town that jesus would be born and i saw in the prophecies in isaiah about the specifics of jesus life on earth and resurrection to the point of no bones will be
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broken and he won't lift a finger to defend himself, he will be punished along with the transgressors i said there is no way now that i can honestly but i can honestly deny that this is the inspired work. i can come up with this and make excuses for critical colors do today. they go back retrospectively and say they couldn't have written it. but they've put a hole in their critique. bottom line, i knew that he had written it. i began to read the theology graciously. i couldn't get my hands on it. that's enough. also, just to mention a few in case you are not aware of this. some other prophecies that the blow me away, chapter two and
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seven and the prediction to rapidly take over the whole world and then the leader will split into the four generals just like alexander the great it is a bone chilling remarkable when you read it. but the ones that gets me are the prediction 300 years before that he would present a pagan offering and his name is mentioned and then king cyrus who is better known in the persian empire it empire it wasn't only predicted by name but that he would free them to return to their holy land. there is even that he had the practice of doing this and not returning to the jews specifically to rebuild the temple but babylonians according
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to the archaeological collaboration to return to the homeland and rebuild of their own places of worship and that is so cooperative i just love that. in the book i don't just talk about as i said the formal proofs of the christian apologetics. the prophecy come archaeology, transmission of the bible and all i also go in the scripture and talk about the paradoxical teaching of the scripture i'm so fascinated in the bible and i take it at its word when it says it has the power of conversion. and i want to introduce the nonbelievers to some powerful theology which is taught by god in the holy scripture to us, counterintuitively which is said they are often paradoxical. they seem inconsistent but if you dig deeper you will find that there is so much truth. i think that god did that on purpose.
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to disclose that can make my independent sticks with us and it is more meaningful to us. but i also included a couple chapters on what i call these on moment -- ah-ha moments and the other theological points that blew me away. so the two chapters on this hoping that it might tug at the heart of a skeptic. and so, i -- one of these moments was particularly meaningful to me. the ironside was a preacher 100 so years ago and he wrote a book about a bunch of things and included the story in the book. they preached that the salvation army gathering often there would be a guy that came to the back of the room but he always bolts at the end of the sermon.
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so he was forced to sit on the front row because there were no seats. ironside cornered him at the end of the meeting and then what do you mean. he said i used to be an atheist but now i'm not anymore but i'm not a christian. i -- >> what caused you to be at least a b. leader in god and he said that man over there and he was a friend of his, a former alcoholic whose life had been totally transformed by his placing his trust in jesus christ so that had a significant impact on him and he said so why can't you take the next step and become a christian and he said i read the new testament and it doesn't need that much for me anymore. it blows me away it is such beautiful literature i wish i could become a christian by reading the book but instead he says my moment. as he says would you let me read you a chapter and tony who was
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describing. he said how can i possibly, just give me a chance. this is the only part of the speech i'm going to read. now remember what he's doing to this non- believer. who has the least hour message. he wrote this 700 years before. who has the lead our message and to whom has it been revealed? he grew up before him and he had no beauty to attack the appearance that we should desire him. he was despised and we held him in the lowest. he took up the pain and for the suffering if we consider him punished by god and afflicted.
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but he was pierced for our transgressions. the punishment that brought us peace was on him and by his wounds we are healed. we all like sheep have gone astray. we've turned our own way way and the lord has laid on him the iniquity the iniquity is above all he was oppressed and afflicted that he didn't open his mouth. he was led like a lamb to the slaughter and he didn't open his mouth. by oppression and judgment he was taken away yet the generation contest did at first he was cut off from the land of the living. he was assigned a grade and with the rich though he had done no violence or any deceit it was the lord's low to cause them to suffer and though he will see
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his offspring and prolong his days into the well of the lord will. after he suffers he will see the light of life and be satisfied by his knowledge. my servant will justify many and he will bear there in equities. therefore i will give him a portion among the great and he will divide because he has poured out his life and was numbered with the transgressors. he then asked if he could read the chapter that was read to him. if you read it several times and scurried off he didn't show for three more days. when he came back he then talked to him and said what happened?
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when he had been in the holy land he had cursed jesus on calvary saying this is where the christian dc began. and all the people that were with him at the time to give you a flashback all of the people that were with him at the time scurried down the hill thinking they were going to get hit by a bolt of lightning so that is important to understand the quote but this guy says next. so he breaks down in tears and he made an announcement to the group these last few nights i learned of the ones i cursed out on calvary and the one wounded in the transgression and by his wounds i am healed. is that on the league double clicks [applause] -- is that on the league unbelievable. this motion the critics say that
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it is incompatible. the lord tells us to love him. proverbs tells us to acquire wisdom and god made us in his image super intimately intelligent god made us intelligent so that we could relate to him and have a relationship with him and dig into the scripture and mine the depths of his riches to read that requires intellect and there is nothing incompatible between faith and reason where christianity is concerned. [applause] the overwhelming weight of evidence that life put down in the book is that christianity is claims are true beyond a doubt the criminal standard, way beyond any standard. if you study with an open heart and open mind, you will discover that it's true. he's a historical figure that became man while being fully god and fully man lived a sinless
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life to die for our sins and was resurrected physically in the body. i didn't understand. if i had understood i might have been a believer earlier. he was a catholic writer and i read the life of christ and it was amazing. all others that have claimed to be god one is that he was the only man that was ever preannounced who was fulfilled by prophecy. he's the only man ever divided history. even the skeptics have to refer to people in that context and events. third, which is the most profound thing to me he's the only man that ever lived life backwards. i doubt he meant them into this gave me an entirely new perspective on christ. he was born to die. that's when peter cut off the
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soldiers ear he said gets behind me and he rebuked him. he was now going to die. he had to die. he had to suffer and take on human form in order to experience the full suffering of humanity. under stand otherwise it would be a mathematical exercise you can't balance the scales. it had to be real in history but he also had to be fully god in order to wipe the slate clean for the past, present and future sins of mankind. when we worry about evil and suffering why would an all-powerful and all loving god permits evil but i didn't understand is that we grow in our suffering because we grow in our relationship with which is profoundly important. what i didn't understand was that he became man to suffer
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with us and continues to do it today. he had to be fully god and man for that to occur. so as john said, some people imagine and in different god indifferent to send. i wouldn't believe in christianity. my savior came to the earth as a man and he took all of the aeros for us. he was separated from the father, took all of his history in the real time just so we could live. i didn't understand why would he say why have you forsaken me? the reason is he had to suffer. take this from me. why would he say that? the next thing he said he was suffering in his humanity. he knew that he would be in eternity momentarily but the suffering was so excruciating
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that he said take this from me and then a second later not my will but your world will be done because he knew that is the reason he came. so when we think that it's unfair and we don't understand why god allows this suffering remember that we have a savior that died of course that wasn't human before his incarnation but became human and will always be human forever after so that we can have a personal relationship with him. i invite skeptics to please read this book because i try to tell you the reader the fascination i have with the bible and i misapprehended what it was trying to say until i really dug into it. i was under the misunderstanding that it couldn't be supported in history. these books have been transmitted and investigated by
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critics even the liberal critics know we are reading the same thing the writers originally wrote and they know that the reliability can be trusted because they were transformed from people who were rejected to the proclaimers of the gospel and for that reason they were is because they saw jesus christ and his body after he died and they could have produced a heads inception. the in 40 end of 40 days one-time 500 people in the first corinthians and challenged people to come up and reviewed him. many of them were still alive because he wrote and this has happened in the they couldn't refute him and they went out and they were transformed to the
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proclaimers and said why. not because they were jim jones followers that he lived in the ideology or theology and not like some other people that believe in these other things that is and what distinguishes isn't what distinguishes the gospel writers but they saw the living christ in his bodily form after he died. he was strong. if they had seen a man on the cross as many scholars said they would never follow him because they would have known that he wasn't resurrected. he was one step from the grave. the truth is they saw it and they faced their faith on seeing him and if the testament is closing they don't base that belief on these abstract ideas. how would you like to face
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destiny with what you want to base your eternal destiny on created a factor that creative effective that you believe certain ideas are right like he would die for karl marx you're pretty sure that they are right. they may be right or wrong or would you base your eternal destiny on the fact that you know that you and a bunch of your friends saw someone in the flesh over the last month. that's what they faced their life changing experience and transformation on. they saw him in history and then spread the gospel to the rest of the world and it's a glorious thing. god bless you all. thanks for having me. [applause] ♪ >> thank you david limbaugh. as you know we have a lot of speakers and we do our best to keep everybody on time.
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we do have a timer in front of us and do you know what it means when the light goes off? not very much. [laughter] a speaker earlier as he was walking off said i'm sorry that i went so long. now i thought well what do we do now go back in the time machine to go back? aren't we grateful for the wonderful speeches that we have heard? now we are going to bring up the cleanup hitter the last speech of the afternoon is a man that was born in baton rouge louisiana to address from india and would one day become the governor of the state. isn't america wonderful? first elected in 2004 than we liked it in 2006. 2007 won the race to become governor and after the first term after a medic reform and
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political ethics of louisiana, education reform and business improvements he was elected in 2011 in a landslide. ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome from louisiana, governor bobby jindal? [applause] ♪ >> thank you very much for that generous reception. it is so great to be here in washington, d.c.. that isn't quite true. [laughter] it's never really great to be in washington, d.c.. washington, d.c. is a very funny place. i've had the opportunity to work here five different times. the first time i was an intern.
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there is no job too lonely to get an intern to do. i learned a lot about the coffee machine and those kind of things. came back and worked in the private sector and the third time i was in the national commission on future the future bipartisan commission for the future of medicare. we seemed so close to finding a solution future of medicare. we were torpedoed because the president at the time president clinton couldn't control his luck and if vetoed the commission thanks to the scandal came back and forth time i was an assistant secretary in the bush administration. it was in on her to work for president bush but i also saw firsthand some of the waste in the federal government and how they spend our tax dollars but the most interesting time i came to dc was the fifth time. i had the privilege to come here as a congressman. let me tell you when you come as a congressman is a whole different experience. it's like somebody gives you the
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secret password. when you first get elected they give you this pane that allows you pain that allows you to go anywhere you want in the capital. they may give you a license plate is pretty interesting that says each into as a number. below are the more important you are. you find out very quickly you are allowed to park wherever you want. i couldn't find it parking spot and the officer said what are you doing? i said there's no parking spot and he said that's not for you you park wherever you want, you don't worry about those signs then they give you a million dollars to run your office and you can spend it however you want. it's an amazing thing when they give you the secret keys your jokes get funnier. you are smarter and better looking. i told my colleagues when you go to your office the next day the next group that comes to see you
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i want you to say the dumbest thing that you can think of. [laughter] tell them the sun rose in the west this morning. you saw it and i guarantee they will try to agree. they will say that the smartest thing i ever heard. i saw it. i know because i lost my first election and people ask me what is the difference between losing and winning? when you lose you have a lot more friends. when i won i remember there was a guy that endorsed one of my opponents can elected official that had went on tv and criticized me and attacked me. he came to see me and he said i was secretly for you the very first day. i said i don't even know what that means. that's fine. i want you to be publicly for me. the reason i tell you all of that is that dc is a phony
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environment. they complain we don't pay them enough. we need to pay them a per diem except every day they leave washington instead of every day they stay in washington. [applause] everything in washington, d.c. is about politics and political slogans to be a few years back clinton ran for president with the slogan it's the economy, stupid. the reforms are all that mattered. i agree the economy is important in the campaign one but it is a very flawed view of america. every strategy tells the candidates focused almost exclusively on economic issues. i disagree. the key to the strong america is economic strength and the democratic system of government. here is what i believe as the culture grows, so does america.
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i'm glad we have a free market economy and a democratic system but it's not the economy, stupid. rather it is the culture, stupid [applause]

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