regarding whether i've had a job, you were the only multimillionaire running for this race. i'm proud of my experience working in my family's small business. our trucks are loaded five days out of the week delivering to companies all across the district. so with all due respect i'm proud of my work experience and i think it speaks for itself. >> going to change focus. residency has gained plenty of attention at the campaign and i believe it's something all of you if i'm not mistaken brought up in your opening remarks. in the ads, national campaigns in particular have criticized both you, mr. woolf and ms. stefanik growing up outside of the district and until recently not living in the district and in this question we will start with mr. funicello. should voters have any concerns on supporting a candidate that is outside of the 21st district? ..

you just have to ask yourself this question, does it matter? do we have unique perspectives, the unique voice of people who were born and raised in upstate new york, in the district court's will that be will certainly congress edges becoming one of the group of democrats or a group of republicans were either individual voice will be totally lost. my supposition is green in congress we noticeable. national meet will pay

attention. talk to issues that matter to workers. woolf: if you walk down the street in elizabethtown and ask almost anybody they're likely to know me. that's not just because of my for congress. my family has been there since i did safety. as i said in my opening my father's ashes are there. i've been there in every season for years and years. i rebuilt my home there. the kind of work i've done to the 20 in a north country sets me so part from a republican opponent. community work, conservation work, helping to create jobs. it seems kind of come on glad matt was so open-minded about this idea that we are all humans but for me this is where my heart is. that's where my home is. no matter what happens on november 4 i'm going to be in elizabethtown. it's the best place in the world with the best people in the world and i intend to stay there. stefanik: for someone to set a look forward to hanging out socially out of this environment

so time. woolf: let mike flynn know i am involved. stefanik: that was unexpected. anyway, i was born in albany county. i opponent on the democratic ticket was born in maryland. i went to high school at albany academy for schools 30 miles south of this district t. my family has owned a home since i was three. i have outworked both of the candidates in traffic this district. more importantly like matt funiciello, we work with people in this district on a daily basis in my family's business. i focus on what my ideas are representing this district which are great jobs and growing our economy, standing up for constitutional liberties, always protecting our farmers and giving them the environment to grow and thrive. >> mr. woolf, do you have a response? woolf: i'm very proud of the work i've done in the committee. no, mostly proud of helping to

save small to move house and to been involved on a king and the level for decades. to me, dropping off my daughter at school is about as big a commitment is likely to the future of our district. again, i'm going to be there no matter what happens on november 4 and will continue to work in the committee. >> moderator: we switch gears and have at this point. this question is for you, mr. woolf. there are a number of colleges and universities in district that play a vital role of culturally and, of course, economically. there's a problem of sexual assault on college campuses in the media lately. the obama administration is trying to address it. we are trying to address. financial penalties, increased reporting, talking about all these things. not all college officials on board and they say it can potentially hurt them going forward attracting students, making those jobs are so vital. what is your position on handle -- i have handled this issue? woolf: universities can be very close communities and the like to think they can be self-policing communities. sexual violence on campuses is

going. there's an astounding number of women who are affected by it. i think it's important that we be proactive as a society to say that self enforcement is not working. unfortunately, i think it's also true in the military. where we have to look at examples, some children's idea taking sexual assault cases outside of the command so they can be some projected. this is to within the military structure but is creating an opportunity to have some objectivity. in both of those communities you see a lot of ranks closing. that's unfortunate. it's something we need to address, 100 safety republicans voted against the violence against women's act. this is basic stuff i would like to take care of ourselves as a society. certainly addressing this along with send children is something i would much like to do. stefanik: as a woman, sexual violence and sexual assault is an incredibly important issue and it's an issue i would urge

our colleges and universities not only to have on campuses but i think we need to address this at the federal level. i would support initiative to increase reporting requirements. i think it should not be tolerated, and for all the young women out there who are watching, this is one of the reasons why i am running for congress is we need more women from both sides of how privacy of the table at the table to take on these tough issues. i would break with my part and vote for the violence against women act. i hope to be a strong voice for women not just in this district but across the country. funiciello: i would have to agree with both of the other candidates. i think this is, it's easy to split this issue into two separate things. what is security on college campuses. community policing is something we are trying to reenter checked into the discussion when it comes to some our larger urban centers. i think we're doing that with marginal success and a number of them we've seen increased

example as we are militarizing our police forces of excessive force, recounted and even outright killing. we need to make sure that our police are members of our communities. this is an important idea. he goes back to the 1960s and it needs to take root once again. look at outside forces come in as gillibrand is suggesting with the military to investigate these issues when they happen. the other is a cultural issue and the -- we need to take a strong stance we are raising men and women who respect each other and don't sexualize their relationships. >> moving onto an issue that is unique to our area. earlier this year they decide to endorse a water plant. basically kind of restores the water level is a more natural

health, i suppose. it's been championed by most but there those on the southern shores of the lake our outrage, worked about shoreline erosion, could cost millions. money for the plant would help with that but they're not happy with the plan. what's the correct course of action here and had to prioritize the needs of what new york 21 once but there's also neighbors who completed want something different. ms. stefanik. stefanik: i think the 2014 plan is a good example of bringing environmental us, conservationists and small businesses and members of the economy at the same table to discuss these issues. i support the 2014 plan to return the water levels of the saint lawrence seaway to historic levels. not only is a good for environment, it's good for economy which is to depend on a clean environment in this district. i also support having flood insurance protection for the southern region you were referring to. i think that the next

representative for this district must advocate on behalf of our economy and how we're going to great jobs. we do that by cleaning up the environment and again returned of water levels. i support that, the 2014 plan. i think it's where we should have in the future. i joined cart when owens and supporting the plan. funiciello: i personally don't have the scientific opinion about which is the correct way of addressing the water levels on the saint lawrence but i believe we need to respect the opinion of people who live and work in the region. there's a similar issue going on in the northern part of the district with a rooftop highway. there are a number of federal ideas that become state ideas. you can use public money, to participate in what often can become a boondoggle. because this is an environmental issue on top of everything else we interject the id assigned to it not just about whether the rooftop i would is a good idea or not. we're talking about the erosion of sal, farmland, where people are living and whether the houses are going to slip into

the saint lawrence or not. this is a catastrophic issue. so the whole point is why would related to the federal government to decide. funding should come from the federal government but the regional government, regional representations should be the ones who decide what the answer is, not congress. woolf: for years i've attended meetings of group called the common ground alliance. it is an amazing group that was born around 2007 the brings together conservationists, towns and villages, small businesses in the north country. for years we fought in the adirondacks a lot about conservation issues. there was a building contentious as. used to joke that people would rather fight than win. that's changed a lot. one of the things we're seeing in this idea that conservation and best practices in agriculture as well can be an economic driver and not an impediment to growth. i embrace plain 2014 because i think it's on the right step. and i agree bringing together those groups is something we do

really well in the north country. i agree we should compensate the lake ontario homeowners with flood insurance but i do think that representing our district, this is a win-win and it's good for business and it's good for the environment and it's a great example of what we've been able to do the north country but really stands in strong contrast to what happens in washington. >> agriculture certainly a major industry in thi in the state cod give in the district size, the region is home to quite a large percentage of new york state farms. wwe're finding many of the farmers about the district and everywhere else are reaching old age and the struggling to second generation our next generation farmers to look after their property and keep the family enterprises going. so what as a member of congress would you do to make this a more attractive and a more viable industry for young farmers who want to make a start? if i'd simply put, congress is the scope of reference you're

really has more to do with the barbell than anything else. as many greeks have said be called of the food bill. it is about how we have subsidized farming and decided upstate new york is unsuitable for dairy farm and that's all we're going to do. even though we'll do it on a model crop level, use fertilizers and pesticides, going to grow licensing franchise forms of corn and a. we're going to plug a subsidy system that allows us to be in a death spiral if we are a dairy farmer. it's a terrible system and produces food that isn't edible. you have to ask yourself, would we rather the farmland being used for these major model crop centralize agriculture farms, or would we rather grow wheat in watertown north country farms and bu buy it? woulwould we rather good race tomorrow to a small family farm that has organic food, buy it at the farmers market? why i went up subsidizing it? we have no vision at all. we all want good healthy food

but congress has said we'll give you some of the money to capitalize making the food. we don't do that right now. we give it to the big guys. transept i think matt is right on track with a lot of his ideas. we really did -- >> moderator: then you should vote for me. [laughter] woolf: we would want to see a lot more diversified agriculture operations if you want secrets is on value added products that i personally look at ag issues long for a better congress for those of you know about my work. i supported and sold and distribute the products grown by farmers in the new york 21st. i do think there are ways we can greatly improve a lot of agriculture in this district. one of those is to look at some of environmental regulations that i think has been overprescribed. calling intermittent bottles and ditches as part of navigable waterways is laughable but we never farmers at the table.

passing comprehensive immigration reform is something republicans have refused to do for a long time. it's one of those important things we need to do for our dairy farmers. stefanik: agriculture is the backbone of our economy in the 21st district. i have traveled to many farms across this district ranging from dairy farms to organic farmers to apple orchards. i agree with erin the way to dress the overreaching federal regulation, but a vote for aaron is another vote for president obama a nancy pelosi's overregulated agenda. i think we need to address the speculations and roll some of them back. again addressing the clean water act which is puddles of water that are not magical. i think we need to cut taxes are the question was how do you handgun farms from one generation to the next? our farms in new york have some of the highest taxes in the country. my opponent wants to raise taxes on some the family farms in this district are i want to cut taxes to make it easier to keep these farms and families.

i also think we need to have a representative who can roll the sleeves and have a seat at the table on the aggie community negotiate 21st century foreign policy. and it comes to labor i do think we need to address our visa program and assure their -- with the workforce so that three to five you program is legalized and pursued simply because a thing is to be addressed on a bipartisan basis. >> is specifically would like to get mr. woolf a chance to respond. woolf: i take umbrage at your acquisition that want to raise taxes on family farmers. nothing in m in the record or my statements would possibly indicate that. stefanik: that's a realistic tax hike and raises taxes on poultry in clinton county. not only on farmers but on manufacturers like miller mechanical in gle glen falls whh they went out of business trying to let's let mr. woolf respond.

woolf: i would be happy to discuss a bunch of rules. it is when the ways i have proposed raising revenue. i'm the only candidate on this podium, this stage that is to the ways of raising revenue. what our farmers need is a better infrastructure. we need better roads and bridges, rural broadband. nobody can everybody on the stage has talked about that but nobody dares to say how we can raise the money. i think about the girl which proposes millionaires and billionaires pay their fair share and don't pay a lower effective tax rate than people to work for them. to me it seems fair and necessary. stefanik: so wait, so now -- >> moderator: you will have an opportunity. you only get one. one question of one candidate but one question for both candidates. mr. woolf, you go first. woolf: . i take umbrage that i would go to washington and do everything obama and pelosi say. i think that i stand by my film work which always brought all

sides to the table. i took on issues that were both brought liberals and conservatives to the table. i have always done that. i've done that, saving the movie theater -- >> moderator: is this a question? woolf: the question is, you know, you keep running away from your record as the rest of his 2012 republican platform but as a film director i take full responsibility for all the things in my films. you were a director. you put your name, you put in them on a document to have a constitutional ban on a woman's right to choose even in the case of rape, incest, and life of the mother. you put your name on that. you need to take responsibility for the. even if was only two years ago. you are running for office that and it seems like you are saying whatever you want, what if you think the voters want to you. my question is, were you being disingenuous then are you being disingenuous now? stefanik: this is an important

question. for the viewers were watching, my neighbors on the ballot in 2014. aaron, you and i both know i didn't write the platform don't have editorial control. it was voted on by the delegates and i was not a delegate in new york state. in new york state. this apart is with why i'm running for office, to put forth my own ideas because i think we need new leadership in washington. i have seen firsthand a broken leadership is in washington. if you're asking what that position is, i'm pro-life with three exceptions, rape, incest and life of the mother. i do support the cause of women's act. i'm running today and you play more of a partisan political attack. i hope voters are paying attention to what might it is our for this district while you're lobbing attacks and running from the obama-pelosi agenda which you will be another vote in favor of moderate just reread, mr. funiciello, you're going next to question what the both of can find i've a question for both of my -- i'm going to call them running mates even

though their opponents. it's less uncomfortable. i'm going as something somewhat uncomfortable of both of you. i am a working-class person. i make less than $40,000. i don't have health insurance but i choose that because my workers cannot afford health insurance. i'm not going to live off their backs. both of your from unbelievable means to that's just reality. and i'm not saying that make sure that person. what i am saying is if you look at congress what decade is made up of nothing but people of means. don't you think that congress would be better read this and did if we actually had the voice of the working people in congress as well? since 96% of us work for living on a daily basis and you need to click those chicks. why should we put more wealthy people in office? your latest third quarter port shovel to dig almost 70% of the money outside the district. how can you represent the district as working people if you're getting all of your money from people outside of the?

woolf: i think matt has asked a very good question everything the role of money in politics is corrupting. i think there's a lot of it, and i'm deeply troubled by it. unfortunately, we are living in an era in which money is being used in all sorts of ways. one of the biggest examples is more than to endorse and outside groups that have been supporting obeisance to fund his campaign and has chosen as a kind of favorite representative. i think that that represents the fact that she is being invested in by some of the wealthiest people in the country, by some of the people who are the biggest donor to she won't come out as anything against oil subsidies because the people who donate to crossroads on the biggest oil companies. i think matt has asked a really good question. the fact is i did grow up in a middle-class family, parents who were teachers and i think i do understand that one of the best things made we can do is change

the system and begin to look at the rule of money in politics in a serious way. stefanik: i like to address the accusations and negative campaigning. aaron woolf is the only millionaire on this stage from manhattan. aaron woolf is the only candidate who is so funding the majority of his campaign. he has put in over half a million dollars to date. i have worked hard in raise the money. i get small dollar donors to the district i've been blessed with opportunity and my life but my parents didn't have the same opportunity, and also with a wrist when i was seven, they risked everything, sign their names on the dotted line to start our families small business. i'm proud i grew up in that type of invited her i've seen that your work ethic matters and the amount of time you dedicate to building a business pays off. i was in the first number of my media come to the opportunity to graduate from college. i want to put a policy so more people have those opportunities so that people are incented just

don't start small business and grow their business. with all due respect, aaron, you're the only millionaire running industries. i am concerned with the role of money in politics but you are so funny over half a million dollars. bost: of the opportunity to ask questions of your opponents. stefanik: my question will be to aaron woolf and i would like to continue the minimum wage for new york state and in the minimum wage for your workers at the grocery store in brooklyn? woolf: is $8 in your state and the workers at the grocery store in brooklyn get $10 an hour. stefanik: $10 is lower than the minimum wage. legally and it said it is $11.90, and the mayor just raised that to $13.13. so the voters are paying attention, i know not be the answer but it's very important to note . funiciello: i didn't know they new york city answer. stefanik: it's important you have a basic understanding of the policies. so as i said i'm open to raising the minimum wage and for the

record aaron woolf did not know with a minimal wages for newark city and admits that he may pay lower than minimum wage. >> moderator: actually were running out of time to quit to move on. will it covers many things as . woolf: nothing takes away from the fact that my opponent will not commit to raising the minimum wage. stefanik: you don't know the minimum wage of their own employees. woolf: put money into customers hands. >> moderator: we are going to move on. ms. stefanik, this goes to you. this has been a battleground as you all know for several election cycles now the national parties and -- spending big to help the candidates. you have been the beneficiary to the largest degree of that outside spending. there's been a lot of negative attacks from all of these asides, from outside coming in. has this limited the discussion of local issues and distracted voters on the actual import of what's going on in new york 21? stefanik: i focus on my campaign

to what i can control. the as we run a focus on the issues and not engaging in a negative attacks. i believe we need more transparency in politics today. i believe we should know where all of the money is coming from so it is 100% transparency to voters. i have focused my campaign on doing the hard work of traveling the district, showing the type of energy i will bring to the table. i think that's why if you compare both the candidates on this stage, i have raised more money over the course of my campaign from the small dollar donors in the district because they support new ideas and their invested in a campaign. >> moderator: to be clear you have not disavowed the outside attacks? stefanik: i focus on my campaign and what i can control. i can't control the fact that outside groups have just canceled advertisements for aaron woolf because of his flailing candidates. but i focus on my campaign in raising the money from donors who believe that we generation of leadership. >> moderator: mr. woolf. woolf: a day after the primary,

elise stefanik call me on my cell phone as she said i'm really looking to a campaign that is just focus on issues. unfortunately, she is not telling the truth when she says that's only been outside groups that have gone negative. she was the first to go negative. she brought my wife into this situation by talking butter in it which i think provide a reference for. she has said i'm trying to run for congress to make a documentary film. i am learning to represent the people of the 21st district. both of these people have said it, but ms. stefanik has said on television and just mention my wife on radio. into this kind of with making it about personal issues that i think is being used to distract from real issues, the is where talk about tonight and should be focusing on. it's i think one of the hallmarks of campaigning today but we have not done that. even on our website there are lies at the adirondack daily enterprise has challenged about me and my candidacy.

funiciello: i think the initial question was about local issues. >> moderator: a was indeed. funiciello: i think congress, we are trying to represent as a congressional representative the people in her district on national issues. we spent so much time talking this is what is getting tongue-tied about earlier, we spent some of tongue-tied but what kind of congressman do locally, what can our congresswoman to locally? the answer is nothing to they can go to a duck race and they can go cheap rate, you can feel their happy there with you let's be adults for a minute. they are going to vote on whether or not you make your living, minimum wage. the vote was not you get good medical care. we -- enough money to free already paid for medicare for everybody in the entire country right now but we don't have a single-payer health care is on the table. are these people going to vote for a? no. they will not get it for you, me and my.

27th of us are. 54 of us are. we need to start putting independence and the congress who don't take corporate money. we would get things on a national level that we require. these are the issues that matter. >> moderator: we are unfortunately out of time. we're almost out of time to we would like to get to the lightning round. you have two minutes to do that. we want to get through as many question is possibly we've done a lot of mixing it up. we're going to do is just no. ms. stefanik, you first if that's okay. to support term limits for members of congress? stefanik: yes. funiciello: not until we address the seniority system. >> so can ms. stefanik would . stefanik: yes. funiciello: yes. woolf: yes. >> moderator: the third one have you ever climbed the height the? stefanik: yes. funiciello: no. i didn't have enough time.

working. >> mr. funiciello to have you been to a phish concert? funiciello: no. stefanik: no. woolf: what you think is the answer? >> we will take that as a yes. heavy of expense or to believe in the constant park vortex? woolf: i have no idea what your talking about. stefanik: i've not experienced it the iphones newsclips. funiciello: i have not experienced it. >> would you have voted for the -. funiciello: no. stefanik: no. woolf: no. >> will you vote for governor cuomo in november? woolf: yes. stefanik: no. funiciello: guide, no. >> did you vote in 2012? woolf: no, i did not. stefanik: no, i did not. funiciello: i wrote in an expletive. >> should roger goodell stepped down as the nfl commissioner? woolf: yeah, she should.

stefanik: yes. funiciello: yes. >> unfortunately don't have time. it's been an interesting experience. we will go to closing statements and that begins one minute to remind you, mr. woolf, you first. woolf: thank you so much for the opportunity to be here even in the spirited moments, it's an honor to be candidate for congress in the 21st district. i think we have a lot to be proud of in our district and we're seeing the seeds of a new economy going places. small-scale manufacturing in warren county, the ag revival, forestry to provide cutting edge energy. i have such faith in a future and such faith in the future of our economy in upstate new york. but dysfunction and inaction and partisan extremism in washington has been a major, major block. they have been a stall on our economy and they have been a paralysis on our progress as a nation. i'm the only candidate on the

stage that is not beholden to conservative ideology or a liberal ideology. i work for good legislation for the new 21st bishop and i don't care if it comes from a republirepublican/democrat or a. i am proud to be standing here today and would be proud to serve as you next congressional representative. stefanik: first, i want to again thank congressman owens and all the discussion and i think it's important to acknowledge his service to the district and to strike would've worked on a bipartisan basis. i hope to be able to do most big shoes and work on a bipartisan basis on summit of the issues that we are facing. it's clear to me that president obama's economic policies have failed in this history. while my opponent supports is another support a president obama, i believe we need a new ideas and a new generation of leadership to unleash job creation and promote economic growth in the north country by cutting taxes and overhauling cutting taxes and appalling attacks could come by investing in infrastructure, by continue

to work with canadian businesses as partners. i also believe we need to ensure our farmers have a brighter future in this district, and i'm committed to always find a path of our brave servicemen and women at fort drum and are veterans in this district. i entered this race over a year ago but i'm excited about the momentum and support our campaign asking, and i humbly ask for your vote on november 4. funiciello: i was born and raised in wilton, you but i've lived other places in my life but my home is definitely in the district. i live in it now, i work in a, i run two businesses there. my family works here. we play here. we play hockey. we hunt. we farm here. this is my home. is not the only reason why you should vote for me. it's because i want single-payer health care, and that is the reality is we already pay for it and we are not be given that health care. we are not aware of it. we need to start being aware that. we need $15 an hour.

we need a raise. we need to elevate workers because of corporate welfare. we're never going to snake away all that in time that those people are getting for us in the form of economic development which often comes from congress. but we have to ask ourselves is how is that going to happen? in 46 years what has congress done for you as a worker that you like? i would say nafta are good examples of what they do when you vote for a lesser evil. stopped doing it to start boarding for someone who is from your home and wants to represent you, not lychee. thank you. >> moderator: that concludes our debate between the candidates in the 21st congressional district the i want to thank all three candidates participating. i like to thank you at home for watching. unique member the election is november 4. get out and vote and please stay with time warner cable news and, for all your decision 2014 coverage. have a great night. ♪

♪ >> last night in jacksonville, florida, republican governor rick scott that his democratic challenger and former republican governor charlie crist in the debate. governor scott is running for his second trip to mr. chris decided not to seek reelection in 2010 but lost the republican primary to mark rubio in the center. last year let the gop. that debate airs tonight on c-span2 at 8:00 eastern.

in canada the globe and mail.com reporting on the attack on parliament. the headline, soldiers shot, gunmen on the list. further news from the ap. they say police and witnesses say a gunman had shot a canadian soldier standing guard at the national war memorial in on the wall. witnesses said the gunmen entered parliament and shots ring out. royal canadian mounted police warned people in downtown ottawa to stay with them when those and rooftops. this is a developing situation. the ap says the shooting which happened shortly before 10 a.m. comes just two days after to contain soldiers were run over and went and killed by a man with jihadists sympathies. more on that story as it develops. backdoor campaign 2014 coverage on c-span2. illinois its 12th congressional district incumbent democratic congressman william enyart and state rep mike boston met earlier this month for a

debate. the 12th until is located in the southern part of the state and includes frankly, for last in madison county. that race is considered to be a tossup according to rothenberg and roll call. ♪ ♪ >> good evening from the mayor and cultural and civic center in marion illinois. welcome to the first of two formal broadcast debates by the three candidates running for congress in illinois 12 u.s.

house districts. the candidates are state representative mike bost, republican of murphysboro. green party candidate paula bradshaw of carbondale, and incoming u.s. representative bill injured, democrat. the candidates would be questioned by molly parker, jennifer fuller and beth of the "belleville-news democrat." i'm jak tichenor, we are moderates my. we will begin with a two minute opening statement from each of the candidates, the order of which was determined by a drawing before the debate. representative bost for the first. bost: thank you, to the bellevilbellevil le news democrat, to be a so you putting on this debate. i look forward to us are talking about the issues, present our opinions and our views. you know, whenever it came time to decide whether not i was going to run for this office, it was a tough decision to family

and i sat down to talk about but a lot of people have asked why are you looking to do that? folks, i have nine grandchildren. it is not, this country is not headed in the right direction for the and to have the future they deserve. whether it's jobs in southern illinois, a dangerous going on overseas, our borders are out of control. i feel it's my responsibility as their grandfather to work for them and you, to try to make it better. that's what i'm asking you to do. i've been out meeting with people talk about the issues, realizing the problems and concerns. my past expense, believe me, i've heard plenty. there are problems and there are things that need to be done. let me to have this job is a servant of job. it's a servant job. the person who holds it needs to remember that you keep in

constant contact with your constituency. and you do that by attending meetings, i have been townhall meetings, and by just being a good servant. i look forward to tonight's debate. i look forward to the opportunity to answer many questions that i believe will be asked here tonight. thank you again. enyart: thank you. i also would like to thank the sponsors this evening completing the "belleville-news democrat," southern and, of course, dubya as a you. i would also like to thank league of women voters for sponsoring this. i would also like to thank my opponents this evening. paul, i'd like to thank you for your many years of service in the medical profession as an emergency room nurse. kudos for a great career. thank you for that. might, congratulations to you. thank you for your 20 years, nearly 20 years of serving as a state legislator in springfield.

you know, when i was asked to run for congress two years ago, i left a job that i loved as commander of the national guard, major general. to take this on and i very early learned that i was walking in the footsteps of giants. i was walking in the footsteps of legislators like paul simon, like glenn -- like jerry costello. southern illinois expects leadership like that. southern illinois expects statesmen like that. so it's been a learning experience for me to walk in those footsteps. you know, as a politician it's awfully easy to make promises. so what i'm going to ask you to do tonight is examine the promises and then look to performance. i've been indoors for the illinois farm bureau because i

promised i would support agriculture, and the dems a. i was part of the successful adoption of a farm bill, the first time since 2007. i promised i would support our coal industry i've been indoors -- for three candidates to the on the one who is the united mine workers of america as i followed through on that promise. i promised to support veterans and i have followed through on that promise. bradshaw: hello, and also thank you to everyone who put this debate on. right now in hong kong there are thousands of people out on the streets because they want to bring more democracy to the country. they're tired of having the candidates picked for them by the government. we have the same problem in this country. it's hard for third party candidates to get on the ballot and if you to get on the ballot i was one of people catch a morning through hong kong, they'll probably tell you, you can't win. they don't want you to win, so

why should i waste my vote voting for you? you are just exploited you might even cause them to lose election to our candidates are, they aren't paid by the government. they are picked by big money. s. dick durbin wants it can let's face it, the banks own this place. i called for a sales tax on wall street speculation to help raise money. i call for a progressive income tax, more progressive income tax and a call for a publicly owned nondatabase source of money supply so we can balance our budget and pay for needed services to the banks, they aren't going to own me. big oil and gas and military in the complex also exert and unwarranted influence on congress, as eisenhower pointed out. we call for renewable energy and an end to the trillions of dollars spent on aggressive wars overseas. so they're not going to like me either.

we called for full employment as the humphrey hawkins act of 1970 calls for so the people are not forced to work for poverty wages at big box stores and fast food places. they are going to buy me either. i'm paula bradshaw and big money doesn't approve of my message. >> moderator: thank you very much. it's time for questions from a panelist at each candidate will have two minutes to answer the question. first question comes from molly parker for representative bost. >> we will start with international policy. global terrorism has changed and it now crosses national borders. it is based more in regions and based on religious ideologies. one of the most dangerous groups include isil basin city in northern iraq. former defense secretary leon panetta stated recently that he believes that the u.s. should have armed syrian moderate early on, but the plan was rejected by president obama. tell us, what are your thoughts

on combating terrorism in our airstrikes enough or do we need boots on the ground? bost: let me explain to you that they wish we could go back and i'm sure we all do. and that there would've been troops, there would've been at least left as a police force to not have th those young men and women to shed the blood, shed ththeir blood in thing to let me also tell you that has i believe airstrikes are one path right now. as an elected congressman we would have to look over each situation and make a decision now. but he also explained this. as a marine, i come from a side that i understand military force and why is nasa f invites would have a force in readiness ready to handle this. but i also come as a marine father, and the day that my son left for iraq was probably one of the worst days i've ever felt in my life. and that is because i would have

gladly when he walked through that airport, went in his place. but i didn't have that choice. but in this job you will have the choice to understand that everybody that might be sent when you make those decisions is being sent and they are someone's child, whether a son or a daughter. so we do need to make sure that we keep it under control, that those battles occur not on our soil, that we must make it safe. we've got to be careful of which way we handle this. >> moderator: ms. bradshaw. bradshaw: for 13 years we have given up liberties. we have given up, we've gone trillions of dollars in debt. we've killed over a million people around the world, and now 13 years later they tell us we are still not safe. we are spied upon. out the mills are collected to our phone calls are collected, and we are still not safe. well, let me tell you what. give me back my freedom.

if the nsa is collecting phone calls and everyone in the world couldn't figure out that 20,000 jihadists were going to cross the border, then what good are they? what good are they? what good was a spinning all that money and all those lives if we are still not safe? i say give me back my freedom and stop the war. as force syrian moderate rebels, that is a misnomer to anyone who is killing people is not a moderate. to our syrian matters and they like the green party in syria. they're working through the political process to try to change their country. they have a parliament in syria and some of them have been elected. that is a political moderate. a persons cutting off heads and slitting throats is not a moderate and the united states should quit funding the. but giving them arms. syria was almost, for three years the united states has been helping to back these so-called -- first they call them people

protested but even when they were 600 dead soldiers and policemen, they're still cling to peaceful protest to any switch to moderate rebels. now we are told that moderate rebels gave the arms to isis, so what's the solution? give more arms to the moderate rebels. i don't understand the thought process. the best thing we could do is quit funding the rebels, the jihadists is what they are, and tell a friend of saudi arabia, turkey, qatar, jordan and the rest of them, the uae, they also need to quit funding jihadists and they almost were winning. >> moderator: representative enyart. enyart: the last five years of my much to the chagrin i spent in the illinois national guard and it was my duty to train, equip and order our young men and women to combat. so i take these duties reserves and that's one of the reasons i sit on the house armed services

committee because it's the only serving major junk a retired major general in congress, i think i've a certain expertise that no one else in congress house. we tend to look for immediate solutions, and i think what we need to do is remember the history. take a look at the old testament. these wars, this book has been going on in the middle east not for generations, not for centuries, that for thousands of years. so we can't expect to fix that next week or next year, or in 10 years. it's a long-term problem. it's a long-term solution. we cannot have terrorists controlling large swaths of territory through the middle east and exporting that terror to our shores were butchering our citizens. you know, it's interesting because one year ago, 14 months ago over the labor day weekend i flew back to washington, d.c.,

left a parade to fly to washington, d.c. to take a classified briefing on syria. syria was a hot topic. the president was talking about going into been. the american people were adamantly oppose. he listened the american people and did not going. today, the mood of the public has changed and i think before put any boots on the ground the local nations, and i'm glad to see the arab league stepping up and helping in this problem and controlling terrorists, those local nations will have to put their boots on the ground. but i think we're going to have to provide the air support and provide intelligence, ma logistics support to help them curtail these terrorists. >> moderator: next question is for paula bradshaw. >> it was reported today that thomas duncan, the patient is being treated for ebola in an isolation unit in a texas hospital has died. that marks the first person to die from the disease in the united states.

is the u.s. government doing enough to protect americans from ebola? should the government and flights was africa to this country until the disease has been brought under control? what more would you propose to ensure the safety of american citizens here at home? bradshaw: yes, that should be a no-brainer. if you've got, if you got a virus killing people and you want to stop the spread, then you quit letting people fly from one country to the other. as far as this guy that came from i believe it was liberia, and brought the virus with them, they have done what the proper public health response is. they put the family under quarantine. when i was four years old i got the measles, and the public health department came out and slap a yellow sign on the door of our house, and it said we were under quarantine. that's how they dealt with the vaccine and that's how we should deal with it now.

no one was allowed to come into my house and i wasn't allowed to leave until the measles work on and then they took the yellow sign off and that's what you do with it. as far as putting the people in liberia -- here's the problem. nigeria has got this disease under control but library you just have this horrific civil war which destroyed their public health system. you have to have a strong public health system to have public health. so you know what they should be in liberia as sierra leone what they did in nigeria and just, you quarantine people. you don't drag them away across them. and the problem was apparently that the people in the house want to go out and go shopping because they needed the. the proper thing to do is what did in texas is take the food to the door of the house. if the united states wants to help with that, with giving food for these people, then i can see that. but the ridiculousness of sending troops to fight a virus, i thought it was ridiculous when they wanted to go send troops to

stamp out evil. 90 want to send troops to stamp out a virus but it's really ridiculous. >> moderator: representative enyart. enyart: thank you, jak. the ebola virus i was asked about this by a reporter about a week and a half ago. the reporter said, well, what about this humanitarian crisis? i told the reporter, the ebola virus is not a humanitarian crisis. it is really a national security crisis. the ebola virus is incredibly dangerous. we have to immediately swing into action, as paula said essentially, quarantine us. we have to get this problem solved. because the rapidity with which it has spread is frightening and the fatality rates range as high as 90%. this is a disease that is entirely dangers. currently it is a disease that

is borne by bodily fluids, but if that would make the jump to become an airborne disease, the rapidity with which that could spread around the world is incredibly frightening. i think that this goes to show, and the ebola virus has been around for years. we've known about the ebola virus for years but we've always managed to curtail it and it's not made the leads is beginning to make today. so i think that we have lagged behind in research. we need to ensure that the cdc, the center for disease control, is properly funded and has the resources necessary to help fight this. we need to be doing the medical research and development. and unfortunate my opponent, mr. boss, has endorsed a paul ryan budget which slashes funding for the cdc, slashes sunday for research and develop. so i think he owes an explanation to the citizen as to

why he wants to slash medical research and development, slash the budget of the centers for disease control when we have viruses like the ebola virus running rampant in our world. as -- i have the red card, so thank you. bost: in the words of ronald reagan, there you go again. you did the same thing to jason kilmer but you're not going to do to me. i've never said i supported the ryan budget, and that is a lie. now, back to the question. let me take that that is an issue i've been very much paying attention to. my brother-in-law is a missionary that just came home. thank heaven everything checked out with he, his wife and his daughters. but as paula mentioned, the real problem is that you're the one country in liberia that the centers for disease control does need to be involved with so to try to fight this there. but yes, the president has the power to control our borders and

to stop the influx of anyone from those countries. i believe that should be done, but once again, i never supported the paul ryan budget by the way. >> moderator: next question is from beth far representative enyart. >> this question comes from reader cheryl matthews. students and parents are learning a new way to learn all over the country with the limitation of common core standards. as the debate over whether this new system will help bridge the gap between students in american schools, many are wondering what role the federal government should have in education. what is your stance on education? should there be a strict federal standard? what role should the u.s. government play in paying for it? enyart: thank you, beth. death, i can tell you i've heard a lot about the common core and i've heard a whole lot about testing that goes on in schools.

you know, my daughter-in-law, tenure, isn't eighth grade teacher in belleville. being an eighth grade teacher mentioned the immediately to heaven. but the problem that we have in our schools today is there's far too much teaching to the test. we are not teaching kids critical thinking skills. we are teaching them to take tests. welcome you can take a test and you will be good at taking tests, but all that proves is you're good at taking tests. it doesn't prove you're educated or you're good at critical thinking skills. i've heard the same complaints from teachers and from school administrators and from parents as i've gone around the district meeting with people. as i talk to employers, what employers want, employers want skilled, trained folks who have the ability to divide three eighths by two into the ability to master skills. when i was at southwestern

illinois college up in the granite city campus a couple weeks ago and met with a young lady. she had been working as a housekeeper in a hotel. minimum wage come couldn't 40 hours a week, two kids at home, food stands, couldn't support the kids. and have money to put gas in the car at the end of the week. but what she did, she went and took a course in welding. and today, she is working as a robotic welder operating this incredible machinery making a good middle-class wage and with a great fringe benefit package. she has health insurance, she's got a retirement plan, and that's what she has done throughout game between. i think i've sponsored the jobs act and the work act, both of which focus on those kinds of training, both of which work with community colleges. with great community colleges here in our district. bost: whether it's common core,

no child left behind, i've always been a big believer that the federal government should not be involved at this level for education. it should be passed to funds that should be and at the state and local of a. who better knows how to educate our children, who better knows the unique situations that each school district faces that our local schools and our local, and our states? you know, i know that there's this great big dream of building, this big government, that will come in and take care of education. you can't, you can't paint it with that broad a brush, and that's a problem. and i believe it should be controlled at the state and local level. >> moderator: candidate bradshaw can find that's probably why the state of illinois is in such deep debt. we are not going to take any federal money to help us out. i can tell you that you need a

situation of a lot of our local schools. they're starved for funds to their length off teachers, cutting programs. teachers are having to go reach into their own pockets to buy supplies for the kids. this is untenable. i think the federal government should indeed put some funds into the school. common core, on the other hand, although again it sounds like a great idea, there should be, you know, a common set of things that every child in america knows, how to read, how to write, history, some civics would be nice. but, of course, the common core is not about that really. it's about tests and teaching to the test and the teachers don't like it, the kids don't like it. it turns all of these teach for the test kind of things are turning schools into cheats and liars. we never had this kind of widespread cheating before until, tell the federal government stepped in and said, well, you people, you kids have

to get better and better and better every year. so what are they going to do? lose their funding? a life. i think that's an atrocity producing situation and it should stop. we need to get teachers together with administrators and parents and figure out a better way for us to teach our children. and i really think that school should be about helping every child reach your full potential in whatever teaching method works best for them. and i don't really think of schools, i don't think schools should be just places where the turnout real robots, or employers benefits. >> moderator: mali parker has a question for representative bost. >> this question comes from a reader of the southern illinois institute, republicans in the u.s. house have repeated to repeal the affordable care act known as obamacare. to this point the effort has tall and the democratic controlled senate. to support and what action you think is needed if you are

elected. bost: the day when elected i will only be one of 453 will try to work within the compounds of working with those on both sides of aisle to try to come up with a sensible plan. let me first off tell you that the idea of obamacare having health care that is affordable, portable and giving with preexisting conditions is a good idea. ..

let me tell you that i do the wave right now what the president is doing as far as holding a bow and a changing april after the fact without taking into congress is not right. i don't think it's in his power. i think he's overstepped his power. we must make sure we work together to find a solution and put the gridlock on -- the senate has to take these bills to cure the problem before it negatively impacts businesses and individuals come january 1 whenever it is not affordable, when it is not available and with all the problems of the bill when you put the regulations integrating with it that are 9 feet tall.

bradshaw: obamacare is another example of using what the american people want to screw them over just like no child left behind. everyone wants education for their children. everyone wants healthcare but obamacare was never about providing health care for the people of america. it was about providing subsidies and giveaways to the insurance companies. if america really wanted to provide healthcare they would train more doctors and clinics and make sure the public health-care system is healthy and the water stays clean and we would have never ever thought of fracking because that would be an outraged public health. if we care about public health we would train more doctors and openwork clinics.

it's kind of interesting one of the first things of obamacare that was implemented is $50 billion to force every hospital to go to computer records and let me tell you they had to drag us kicking and screaming because it's so inefficient and ineffective and i know that the reason the hospitals didn't catch the victim is because the nursing computer programs didn't connect to the doctor's computer programs so even though the nurse put in that he's been to liberia, the doctor didn't see it because he wasn't on that screen and that's obamacare for you. it was a boondoggle to the health insurance companies and the computer program people. >> moderator: representative enyart. enyard: i need to back up and say i think i heard mr. bost say that i lied when i said that he

endorsed the paul ryan budget but, you know, i was in my barbershop on east main street a couple of weeks ago and they handed me a brochure. one of my campaign staff in the audience has that pressure and on the very back of the folder it says i would vote for the paul ryan budget and number two that i would vote to repeal the aca or obamacare. i wasn't in congress when obamacare or the aca was adopted. so, however we have taken a 56 votes to repeal in one way or another and mike is wrong. it wasn't one that i voted for. there were a few. when the administration was wrong and the aca needed to be corrected, and that's what we

need to do. first of all, there are some provisions that are really, really beneficial to folks. for example you can keep your child on your own health insurance until they are 26. i have a good friend whose wife had cancer and nearly died but she recovered. how about a child that gets terribly ill. it was a lifetime cap on what could be spent on health insurance. that has been eliminated because of the aca's if you have have a spouse that might have cancer and be required to go through incredible amounts of treatment -- i got a red card i have to stop. >> moderator: the next

question is from his bradshaw. >> moderator: they've been criticized for lists that hospitals all over the nation when just a few miles from the local va hospital in mary ann which has had its share of problems with confidence they do have that the new leadership is taking appropriate steps to clean up the va and what further changes would you make? bradshaw: that ties into the last question when i was talking about public health and training more doctors and opening up clinics i also should have mentioned the green party calls for medicare for all which would simply instead of having a 700 page bill obamacare you would simply take the medicare act you take away the age limit of 65. that would solve the problem of the age limit. that would solve the problem of pre-existing conditions. that would solve the problem of expensive health care conditions and it would also solve the problems of the veterans administration. if you had one single source of

medicare in this country and everybody was entitled to it, you wouldn't have to have this hodgepodge of healthcare providers. as far as the waiting list we have been in private care. my mom was told she might have lung cancer and she needed to see a pulmonologist and they gave her an appointment for months down the road because there were no appointments. so she believed she had lung cancer and we are supposed to believe this is the best healthcare system in the world? we need more doctors and clinics and we just need more health care providers as well as a single-payer health care insurance. >> moderator: representative enyart coming your response please. enyart: once again i'm going to ask you to look at promises and performance. immediately after i was elected and before i was even born into office on january 3 of last year

i went to the marion va hospital. i went there in december and i went there for one reason because i learned when i was a young nco and a young officer that's what it expected its fixed. congress has oversight authority and we have to inspect it really have to exercise that responsibility. so even before i was sworn in and i didn't talk to just administrators. i talked to veterans into front-line staff and administrators tuesday what was going on. i have been back. i've been to the va clinics, the outpatient clinics in mount vernon to ensure things get fixed. i sponsored a bill that would require the veterans administration to make a determination on veterans disability claims in 120 days and if the decision wasn't made

in 120 days, the veteran would be presumed to be disabled and receive those benefits. guess what? by introducing the bill and pushing the legislation, the veterans administration has reduced the backlog of disability claims by 40%. i want you to compare that to mr. bost's record. mr. bost refuse to vote for a bill that would have increased veterans beds and illinois veterans homes, refused to vote for that bill. by the way, he refused to vote for that bill, but he did vote to raise his pay a 9.6%. [applause] >> moderator: representative? bost: back to the question. let me tell you that it is important to make sure that our

veterans are provided for and i stood for veterans and all of my time in the state of illinois and i will continue to do that when elected to serve in washington. it's also important to keep in touch and i would visit the veterans home as well but i also have town hall meetings about it when something starts going south. you didn't do that. you have a had a town hall meeting after i put one together the vote that you claim against the veterans occur it was the budget, you remember him he's the one that made you a general. [applause] >> moderator: hold the applause. the next question is for representative enyart. >> moderator: congressman, according to the credit reporting bureau, students

across the country 1.2 chilean dollars in student loan debt. this is an 84% increase since 2008. the report says 40 million americans have at least one open student loan, and on average they $29,000. this debt on the younger generation may influence their decision to buy a home or car. it is the federal government have any responsibility to address this debt or the rising cost of college tuition? mac before i answer your question i have to spend about ten seconds correcting the misapprehension. you see what the governor did not make me a general. i went to the u.s. army war college and was somewhat by a board of active-duty officers to serve as a brigadier general and was promoted -- i was nominated in the senate by george w. bush

and was serving as the commander of the component that is the army national guard in the state of illinois by my predecessor retired i was tabbed to succeed him and subsequently promoted to major general by the action of the board of active-duty army officers and again nominated by george w. bush. to your question student loans are a drag on the economy. when young people graduate from school, and that's problem that we hope the to be a current doctors who graduate with hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt can't afford to come down to marion illinois and work for the va hospital for federal government wages. instead they decide to stay in chicago or new york or st. louis where they can earn a bigger paycheck to pay back their student loans. one of the things i support and i have cosponsored is a bill that was passed that would limit

the interest on student loans to just over 8%. there was no such interest provision. what about the paul ryan budget one more time come it would have allowed the banks to charge any amount they want on those loans even do the do that thing have zero risk because they are guaranteed by the federal government. you could go buy a house house and borrow money for between three or 4%. i saw the credit union had an mad up on their website the other day you could borrow money to buy a car for 1.8%. why should students -- >> moderator: representative bost. a bost: can you repeat the question click >> moderator: according to the credit reporting bureau and a student so 1.2 chilean chilean witches and 84% increase since 2008. the report says 40 million americans have at least one open student loan and on average over

$29,000. this tremendous debt on the younger generation may influence their decision to buy a home or a car. does the federal government have any responsibility to address this debt with the rising cost of college tuition? bost: let me tell you that the bill that representative congressman enyart spoke about makes sense. something that will allow them the opportunity coming and we would agree on that issue to make sure that they can afford these loans and continue to work and take a longer time to pay it back so that they can have that opportunity to continue to work. >> moderator: ms. bradshaw? bradshaw: i was interested in you saying you would like to meet with your constituents in the town hall meetings is that like when you demanded the 12 town hall debate and said he wanted everyone to have the ability to hear you speak of times and when it came to the first debate you were too busy to come?

as far as student that comes i don't think teenagers should be put into debt for the rest of their lives in a desperate attempt to get an education that will get them a job with a living wage. everybody that works deserves a living wage. and i think that children shouldn't get into it at all to go to school. we should have three college tuition for every qualified student that wants to go to college and that should be free and available to any club that students like i said. but for children or teenagers were people that don't want to go to college, that doesn't mean that they should have to live at substandard wages for the rest of their lives. you know, these college degree is being sold as a ticket out of poverty and 40% of our people are now living at or near poverty this is ridiculous. they can't all go to welding school and get good jobs and that leaves a whole lot of people behind it i don't just want no child left child left

behind, i want no worker left behind. everyone should have a living wage as i said in a college should be free to all qualified students. and a vocational school, too. if someone is good at welding or repairing cars or whatever their passion is, they should be able to go to vocational school for free and we ought to be able to if we had a publicly controlled bondage-based money supply we could spend into the economy money for valuable worthwhile things like education and health. >> moderator: next question is for representative bost. >> moderator: representative, the federal environmental protection agency has proposed new rules for carbon efficient for coal-fired power plants among other plans greenhouse gas reduction. do you support these and do they stand to lose substantially on this and how would you protect those workers while balancing the need for the cleaner

environment? bost: serving on the board here in illinois, working in the environment and energy side, working side-by-side with people that own and work in the mines to try to make sure we are able to use the cold the epa came up with these regulations that could devastate come and let me tell you working in the public utilities committee that we know that 42% in the state of illinois come from the coal burning power plants. only one of them are unfortunately but 42%. only 6% and i would love to see more than a bit it comes from solar and wind. that being said we can't throw the switch and walk away.

it can be used here in the united states wisely. right now we are shipping overseas and i'm glad we have those jobs and we are actually able to mine or call but if those rules had been passed -- i am sorry candidate went into place it could have devastated this. the reality is there was a bill that could stop it and it was sent to harry reid's desk again it's still laying there but unfortunately, our current congressman didn't vote on that however he did come back after the accords court said that it stopped and he didn't want to do that all the way. that is and isn't how he voted. >> moderator: is bradshaw. bradshaw: what the coal industry is doing is putting the interest of the miners, the coal mine owners actually against the interest of farmers who have to

deal with the global warming affect against the interest of the wineries in southern illinois come southern illinois, against the interest of the children with asthma and people that have brain damage from mercury poisoning. this is putting the interest of the very small group of owners against the rest of the people in america and the world because the effect of global climate change go all over the world where you have droughts and wildfires and floods and hurricanes and many people suffer. you say we can't flip the switch yes we can. the money we spent on fossil fuel subsidies and the war if we could turn it into renewable energy switching our infrastructure, we could do it very quickly. we could mobilize very quickly when we want to. america is known for being able to rollout the new industries and a very small island of time

just because 40% of our energy comes from coal doesn't mean that it always has to. you can draw a rational conclusion that yes our energy comes from coal, yes it is harmful to minors, the environment, children, the oceans, the climate therefore we can switch because we know what that energy conservation and renewable energy we could go totally renewable in a fast period of time so the carbon emissions are a band-aid on a word wound. we need to get on to renewables. >> i need to back up to student loans for a second and point out that state representative bost

voted against the community college act which would have provided grants to the graduates of the community colleges who had a 3.0 average or better to attend state universities in illinois. folks need to ask why he voted against that act to provide the act to provide the students with scholarships to the ten state schools. moving onto your question, promises, performance, remember that. promises performance. i promised i would support the coal industry when i ran for election and today i served as the cochair of the congressional coal caucus and it's very unusual for a freshman legislature to serve as the chairman of the caucus but i served as the cochair with republican john shimkus also from illinois a bipartisan chairman. why do i serve on the caucus? because 40% of our electric power is generated over coal.

we need a balanced approach. everybody agrees we want a rickets to breathe clean air and drink clean water. what we have to do is achieve our energy needs in a balanced manner. we can't turn off the coal plants tomorrow or two years. i got her to agree to extend the comment on the proposed regulations and remember the proposed regulations you still have the opportunity to comment. i will ensure that every one of the comments from the voters in the illinois 12 gets to the epa so they know how we feel about it. i'm the only candidate that's been endorsed by the united mine workers.

jennifer has a question first going to paula bradshaw. hydraulic fracturing has become a debated issue in several parts of the country including here in southern illinois. do you support this extraction process and should there be federal standards to govern similar to those in place for cold and if so what changes would you make? i think the regulations are ridiculous. you can't control what happens. what they are doing is taking clean fresh water that all life on earth depends and mixing it with poison chemicals and then they injected into the ground at high pressures for the shale upon which we are living causing earthquakes and it releases the gas which is highly radioactive as well as being bad for greenhouse gases and global warming.

so i don't see what regulations could possibly take away the danger of earthquakes, water contamination on earth contamination in the climate change. that's another thing that is meaningless. so no i do not support tracking. i support renewable energy like i said said and we can switch to renewable energy that very quickly i don't know why people think we can bomb syria within a week there is no money spare combat but when it comes to our own people here at home but we don't have the money for that. i think we should have our priorities straight and instead of spending $50 billion to bomb other people, we should spend $50 billion to switch to renewable energy at home. >> moderator: representative enyart. enyart: i have read a couple

studies on fracking and what i have read indicates that if the proper engineering is used into the proper safety precautions are used into the proper regulations are followed it can be safe. illinois has the strictest in the nation of any of the states in the nation illinois has the strictest. as the it has the best because representative john bradley puts all the players in the room, the producers, other environmental groups, they put everybody in a room and they worked out a compromise solution.

there is no free lunch no matter what we use whether we use leal, solar, wind, nuclear you pick the energy source that you pay a price. we must ensure that if we are going to come up and and then we have solid environmental regulations. there are some folks in the state that don't like regulations, but remember the coal company out of west virginia where all of those miners got killed. why did they get killed? well afterwards it was found that they had violated hundreds of times the safety regulations in force so we need to have the proper regulation not burdensome but remember bp whale in the gulf of mexico violated safety regulations. with within sure the regulations that we have our tough, stringent cut designed to protect people in the environment and about and force them in stead of failing --

>> moderator: thank you. representative bost. bost: thank you. but the answer in the fact that the congressman on fracking is correct on almost everything except the fact that it was mike bost and david. working together in a bipartisan manner we put the toughest rules in place so that we can actually go after the natural resources in a safe manner. protecting our water can our groundwater, surface water, also protecting the air became sure that there are certain seismologists locations that we monitor. we monitor before the process started after the process begins and well after the process is over. we also have catchpole take sure if there's any blowback 110% of anything that goes underground is monitored. we also were able to convince and work with the business side because they have certain -- let me tell you less than .06% of

what they use this more than anything more than salt water & the 20 20 20 use the chemical compounds that are similar to soap, those compounds are given so that we can test the soil and the water prior and during and after. it's a very safe process. a very sensible process but the most important thing is that it puts people to work. and. income to the state from income tax from people working from income to the state from sales tax and the severance tax that goes to the state of illinois properly implemented and implemented quickly could help illinois and its budget woes. i supported the building bricks side-by-side in the bill and a lot of negotiations in a bipartisan manner to get a very successful and safe bill in the state of illinois. the the governments pushed forward to get it implemented. >> the next question for

representative enyart. according to the committee illinois added 272,500 jobs since february of 2010, the national low point for the private-sector jobs. there are still 65,900 more people work people unemployed in illinois than when the recession began. what can the federal government do to ensure the increase job growth and leaves be as specific as you can. >> the good news is that the recession has been teasing. the good news is that wall street has recovered and the bad news is that main street has not recovered. we have seen new record sets a daily on wall street but we haven't seen them set on main street.

they said look at this and on employment dropped one and a half% over a year ago in mount vernon. st. clair county had dropped 2%. the problem is that not all of that growth is happening throughout the district. where the growth is happening and the jobs are growing and booming are in areas we have good transportation infrastructure. the metro east area if you look at the area by 270, 265, those warehouses are booming and if you look at mount vernon, she will tell you about the interstate highways we've got the infrastructure there so the jobs are booming. in the areas it is not booming we need to look at the other counties along the river much

less infrastructure. we need to develop the transportation infrastructure and the second thing we need to do is provide the training and and the schools upgrade for workers and we need to which is why i sponsored the work act and the jobs act and what does this focus on providing training for the unemployed and underemployed for, provide a scholarship for unemployed folks for up to two years up to $2,000 per year in order for them to get the training and the local community this would be a good time to go to the store talking to the congressman the other day and he said that he had an olympic swimmer that came to him and said what is the problem with jobs and why is it that we can't get growth and why are the problems the way that they are and he explained it this way right after the second world war if you were the olympic swimmer in swimming competitions and all

of a sudden you've finished a head for some reason if we decided that isn't fair what to put a 5-pound weight around your waist and college regulation. and then i tell you what, we made the race again and now that more regulation and let's put more regulation and go 10 pounds on you and drag you down. then we were almost tied that just wasn't enough. finally so many years ladies and gentlemen from our federal government. we couldn't compete in the worldwide market. it's time to shed the weight and actually start putting people to work. i want to make sure that everything is safe but i don't want to put myself in a situation where my children and grandchildren can't continue to work and provide a living for themselves here in the united states. and that's the issue that needs

to be dealt with. it needs to be dealt with honestly, straightforward and make sure that we removed that so that our jobs can compete in the worldwide market and put people to work and become self-sufficient. >> moderator: ms. bradshaw? bradshaw: the reason they are ahead is because they were bombed in the rubble. the corporate share of the federal tax revenues was 28%. now it's down to 10% and they are screaming that that's too much for them. they paid 28% of the federal funds and the top tax rate on the very rich was in the 90th percentile so i don't think that you can see that high taxes are what brought this country down.

but québec to the 19th century when the country was being industrialized and workers were dying like flies. on the railroad they died. in the minds, they died. factories they died. and they thought for regulations they are the laws for corporations. they keep them from killing people. there are walls to keep them from ripping off consumers. that keep them from the story in our environment and workers died. they were shot down in the streets by the rockefellers and such for protesting for the slaughter of workers in this country and at one time in pittsburgh there was one third of all working men between the ages of 18 and 70 who were dead because of the steel mills. i don't think we want to give up regulations. as the representative pointed out, energy just ignored regulations and a bunch of miners died.

deepwater horizon ignored. people didn't like it when the chinese pet food killed other dogs. that's what regulations protect you from. people don't like it when rivers can catch on fire that's what regulations protect you from. we need a green deal to put people to work with a publicly controlled money supply that will do it without going into debt. >> moderator: next question for the representative bost. much has been made of timber meant. tell me how your personality well or has exhibited itself as a congressman. >> i've got to start out and say that as i noticed in these ads it is amazing that it says i do that all the time yet i'm only wearing two ties and my wife says she knows that she bought me more than that in all of the years i've been in the general assembly so i need to explain

that maybe there are times we need our legislators to stand up for us. and if someone violates your rights under the constitution or the people on the house floor or in the committee then that means they need to stand up for you. that's what they are sent there to do. or if they have rules that make it to where your representative or any other doesn't have equal time and the opportunity to represent the people at the time we need our legislators to stand up. the issue everybody puts on the news media ad went on the internet we got calls from different states in the foreign

countries telling us that's the way we ought to set up a government. does that mean you go out and yell every time? the bill that i stood up and argued about so passionately failed. that bill would have taken the pension and shifted it to every property tax owner in this room. it was done in the middle of the night. was i angry, you bet. you want to be in greece to. bradshaw: i don't understand why a 10% from would get support all over the country i guess it shows passion but if a 2-year-old throws himself on the floor that shows compassion, too

but you wouldn't send them to congress. it reminds me of people that bring in their kids into their kids kick me or hit me or something and they look proud and say boys will be boys. boys don't have to look like that. the reason reason he's a grad is because you let him get away with it and i don't think that -- i think congress should be a place of dignity where people go and they have respect for the office and respect for the constitution. i think it's kind of interesting to talk about respect for the constitution when neither of my opponents seem to realize that in the constitution in article one and section eight it says only congress shall declare war and raise the army and appropriate the funds for the war. i needed was you quoted as saying if obama went to congress to start bombing iraq or whoever he's going to bomb this week but you thought it was political posturing and not the duty of the constitution so i think you

should send people to congress that actually know what the constitution stands for, knows the duties of does the duties of congress and would not allow the president to take you into the war without paying for them, putting them on the national credit card, running the country into trillions of dollars of debt and telling people we have to cut health and education because we are so much in debt because you are spending trillions of dollars on the war and you are not paying for it and that is congress duty as well. as far as bragging about the country remember john bradley and the rest of them bragged about the regulations in the country and then turned around and hassled the dnr about those regulations. enyart: remember when i talked about walking in the footsteps of giants, think about it kenny

gray, paul simon, i think i try to emulate their temperament. let me tell you i spent 35 and a half years in the military, and in the jobs i held going from a basic trainee to being a two star general you were given a mission and certain resources and you were expected to get the mission done. that's the motto that i took with me to washington, d.c.. we have to allocate the resources. you have to weigh out between the different competing priorities. in some ways maybe it's like fighting a flood because i will tell you when you're fighting a flood when you take a stand back and handed sandbag and handed up to that next person in line, you don't ask that person are you a republican and the person who took a sandbag from doesn't ask you are you a democrat.

what you're doing is working together as a team to get a job done. one of my commercials has a line where i say you don't lead by shouting you lead by example and that's what i learned over 35 years of being in the military. i think i've done that for example we got i made the announcement several weeks ago about the two cyber squadrons. the 200 military positions that's going to help generate about $3 billion a year that scott air force base provides our economy and who better than someone already serving on the armed services committee who spent all that time in the military to help protect the air force base. i saved over half a billion dollars over ten years out of the defense department budget alone. >> moderator: next question

for paula bradshaw. they made headlines to the local communities and in the interest of getting along please tell us one attribute about the low candidates. nice time right. then i can go back to full employment. the bragging about the unemployment turned it down a little bit. the act of 1978 said that if unemployment in this country goes above 3%, that the

so-called job creators or the private sector where they used to call them the robber barons don't provide the jobs, than the federal government comes in and directly provides jobs that at living wages to people who need work and they can be put to work doing socially necessary labor like building renewable energy kind building sustainable transportation, refurbishing housing, insulating, all the things we need to do to save energy and provide energy. so that we are not dependent on coal or gas for foreign oil because that leads us down the path to more global warming, to more pollution, and two more war so i say what we need is a new deal. we can base it on the act that paul simons by the way voted for when he was in congress. and that is what we need to do. we need to start obeying the law

>> moderator: representative, what would you like to say about your opponent's? enyart: as i said in my opening, i really appreciate all of your years of service as a nurse. i think you've done a marvelous job helping to care for patients. your passion for the environment is certainly matched by no one in the 12th congressional district. you voice your concerns and you are very upfront about it and you do not hesitate to tell people your beliefs. so i congratulate you on that. mike come in terms of -- i tell you a couple of months ago, he was on a radio show and i heard him say that he was -- he couldn't get anything done so when the republican senator had a bill pending to help the

levees i was concerned about that because i knew it had to get through the house. mike was carrying the bill for the senator so i came back from washington, d.c. to testify in favor of that bill in front of democratically controlled committee because i wanted them to know how important this bill was for all of the residents of southern illinois. and mike bost even though she was running against me for congress he had the courtesy to show up at a press conference that we had at the capitol in springfield and he thanked me for coming back to testify to insure that bill that consisted of the folks in southern illinois got to the general assembly so thank you for that courtesy. i appreciate it. >> moderator: representative speak 11. a bost: just for running for office and being involved in bringing your views forward i appreciate that, i really do.

and i appreciate your service in the military and i also appreciate the fact that you did come to springfield and i do appreciate you also using the line i used in the paper a while ago that if you don't care if somebody's stacking a sandbag whether they are handing it to you, republican or democrat. i used that in the newspaper and i appreciate you using it up here as well. [applause] i appreciate that. they hadn't seen that very often that a congressman does, and i appreciate that. >> moderator: next question is for bill enyart. >> moderator: who would you like to see run for president in 2016 and why? paula bradshaw. [laughter] who do i think will or who do i

want to see? i think that we need someone running for president that has experience in foreign affairs. the state of the world is really very dangerous. and in my years of military service i cannot remember a time when the world stage was more dangerous. you know, certainly the problem with isis and in the middle east is getting a lot of headlines and it's clearly a potential problem but i don't think that we can forget about russia. speaking to the united nations association last night one of the things i talked about was ukraine because when you look at x. essential threads, and i mean a threat that would destroy the american united states of america there is really only one

and those are the russian icbm. north korea has a few missiles and so on and there are certainly some folks who can do a lot of damage but only one nation can destroy us and that's russia. so that president putin is showing in ukraine and sending in the russian troops and it is a great concern. it is something that hasn't been talked about what the situation is the fact that they are now right on the borders of turkey that is a member of nato, and we have what are called article six pledges come and attack on any member is an attack on all of us and we are all required to defend that member. so if turkey is attacked by a isis under isis under the nato treaty, we must defend turkey or are we are disavowing our treaty obligations and much the same thing can happen in central europe if they continue encouraging that ukraine is not nato but poland is.

>> moderator: representative bost? bost: i don't have one name because i'm watching the candidates that might come out of it with me till you whether she or he, whatever they are and whoever they are the need to be someone that can administrate and can take control of their administration. we've seen enough problems with the administration we have right now and i want whoever it is respected worldwide so that when they say there's a red line it's a red line. and i want them to be a leader to the point because we are in a rough time right now. i served in the military under jimmy carter and ronald reagan. but jimmy carter, very nice man but we were in a wad of

situations like we are in right now so we need that strong charismatic leader that can step up and take charge. i'm going to watch the field just like you will. >> moderator: paula bradshaw? bradshaw: joel stein would never draw a red line 5,000 miles from the borders right on the border of another country and tell them they can't step over it. joel stein wouldn't call it russian aggression when what happened in ukraine was victoria newman who is an associate -- a secretary of state, assistant secretary of state testified that the united states spent $5 billion we could have used at home to overthrow the elected government of ukraine which they did do and then she picked the new prime minister and they had

a fake election in which fascists were put in and they promptly started making threats against the russians in eastern ukraine who the media insist on calling production separatists but they are not. they were only fitting to ukraine in putting to ukraine in the 1920s. they are ethnic russians. when the vote in scotland was going on you didn't hear them calling the scottish people pro- scottish separatists. they were called the scottish people. the fascists that they put into power started making it illegal for russians. they had the gas princes who threatened to kill every russian so they were alarmed. what happened in eastern ukraine is those people took up arms against the fascists and there is a civil war that russia hasn't been involved at all.

the only thing russia did is accept 97% of the people of ukraine that said we want to go back to russia where we were until 1956. that is when crania was put in. russia said okay. if you call that russian aggression, that in my opinion is paranoid schizophrenia. >> moderator: we have time for one more question. and the way we are going to do this is a one minute response from everyone at the question comes from molly parker first to mike bost. >> moderator: proposals for raising the minimum wage range from $10.10 to $15 an hour. do you favor any change and if so, what should it be? bost: i favor raising the amount of jobs. when you raise the amount of jobs, you will raise the minimum wage. when you raise the amount of work that is available to people , the natural thing that occurs as the raising of the minimum wage into the best

example is that when they moved across the river into chester the unemployment rate fell to 2% and you couldn't find a minimum wage job. i'm for everyone's salary going up based on the amount of jobs that are available. >> moderator: paula bradshaw? bradshaw: it would put people to work at a living wage. supporting the minimum wage to be at least $15 an hour plus single-payer healthcare because what this would do to a lot of people is push them off medicaid and make them start paying for the health insurance, so i'm for raising the minimum wage and single-payer health care and i am also for the new deal in which the federal government was directly going to employee people left living wages and that would indeed put some competition into the market and would give workers a more playing field because the people

that we have right now in this country you can't talk about fair competition. the employers have all the advantages and the workers have none. they have to take whatever job they get no matter how dangerous or how low-paying or how horrible it is -- >> moderator: representative enyart. enyart: i support raising the minimum wage and raising up to $10.10 an hour is certainly a good start. the reason that i support that is because the minimum wage hasn't kept pace with inflation. the minimum wage today is less once you adjust for inflation then it was when i was in high school. so, unlike social security and veterans benefits and other types of programs, unemployment hasn't been indexed for inflation and we need to keep pace with inflation. it's also wrong to people working 40 hours a week should still qualify for food stamps

and other programs like that. we need to put their wages at a point where it is kept pace with inflation. and i would point out that my opponent mr. bost this isn't his first time it goes was to the minimum wage and he was in favor of lowering the minimum wage by 1 dollar an hour. he voted against minimum wage and while he was voting for increasing his own wages. >> thank you very much. the time for closing statements. let's move on. bost: i want to thank the southern illinois for putting on the debate into the league of women voters. i served the people well and it is a servant's position i talked about before.

i feel like we have been underserved. my opponent mentioned several legislators and jerry costello. i'm going to tell you he would keep in close contact with constituents and work hard for them and be a true servant. i don't think you're paying attention to these issues that affect us so much in southern illinois. i'm proud of my record even though sometimes it gets distorted in the debates. i've worked in a bi- partisan manner. let me tell you a majority of my goats when you put them together with airbus brandon phelps or john bradley we worked together in their regions and our votes

often why not instead of with our party at the local level. on the other hand we have a voting record with nancy pelosi. i don't think that's what southern illinois wants. thank you for having us here tonight. >> moderator: representative? enyart thank you for the sponsors for hosting this event. remember when i opened i ask you to think about the promises and performance, promises and performance. it's easy for a politician to make promises measured the performance. you know i promised even though i promised that i would support the coal industry. i serve as the chair of the caucus which the republican john shimkus. i have the endorsement the only person that has the endorsement of the united mine workers i

performed that promise great i promised i would support the agricultural economy of the district commander coulter feeds the world. somebody said you may need a doctor once a year, you may need a lawyer once every ten years and an undertaker once in your life you need farmers three times a day i have the endorsement. the only person appeared as the endorsement that has the endorsement of the illinois farm bureau life received support from the corn growers and soybean association. i supported education and training and that's why i have the endorsement of the association and the illinois federation of teachers. i supported the business and that's why i have the support of the business groups like the credit unions of america and i fought for social security and to protect medicare and that's why i have the advertisement -- endorsement. i supported veterans by the way you heard about what i've done during the course of this debate. mr. bost voted against veterans

and refused to vote for a bill that would have expanded the beds in illinois veterans homes. he voted against the minimum wage increase to $5.50 an hour. while why will he turn to god and voted to raise his own pay 9.6%. i don't know how many people in this audience or the broadcast audience received a 9.6% pay raise lately but he voted for himself to receive one. i ask for your support. thank you. bradshaw: it's time for a change and i don't mean to change from one to another, but a real change. the republicans after 34 years of corporate welfare and deregulation when corporations have been on a massive crime spree with the bankers and the war criminals they continue to insist corporate welfare will trickle down. the democrats promise that they

are there for the workers but they did the same corporate money and they have the same corporate agenda trade its time for a new deal which would lead to a stable prosperity. we've known for decades we need to speak to renewable energy and both of my opponents acknowledged that, but not yet. ..