christiane amanpour in "the news sorority." next, biographer walter isaacson profiles the people who made the digital revolution possible. carlos santana remembers his life and career and "the universal tone." and wrapping up the list, "being mortal" examines end-of-life care. that's a look at some of the nonfiction titles book passage bookstore is most anticipating being published this fall. you can visit the bookstore in california or online at bookpassage.com. >> next on booktv, jack cashill argues that president obama and the liberal media worked overtime to convince the public that george zimmerman unlawfully killed trayvon martin even though neither knew what really happened. he writes that martin was a drug user and street fighter who was

confronted and shot by zimmerman. this is about an hour and 15 minutes. .. president obama will surely pass president richard nixon as the worst president ever on issues of national security and press

freedom imagine what your enemies are saying. how is a man that launched for his but launched for his campaign presidency in springfield illinois comparing himself to abraham lincoln well end up the presidency hunkered down in the white house being compared. something went wrong in the process. we are here to explain that tonight. in other civil libertarian for a long time the village voice contributor said obama doesn't give a damn because he can get away with whatever he wants. unfortunately there is a lot of truth to what he says. i'm going to explore tonight how that came to be and it's a complex question. and it's one that i am not fully

sure but to get the answer right he had a distinctive upbringing, much to do and he asked to concentrate on his father dreams from my father. we missed the real mark. she was like his father something of a person that held american general content. she's an indignation with obama and she's with her second husband who works in an american

oil company and he says why don't you come to the party tonight to meet some of your own people and she shouts back at him those are not my people. this is the message that he picked up as a young man as a young boy and he called a them as the caricatures of an ugly american. as a mixed race to race trial with monolithic expectations she could have given the most but she didn't. she didn't like this country and she never did and that affected obama from early on. so he comes back to hawaii as a 10-year-old and now he is in because he doesn't know who he is. how does he define himself? he doesn't want to be an american from what he's heard

about his mother and what he has seen in indonesia. for an african-american he knows no more about that than what he's seen on tv. and there isn't that much. there's only like three channels. like the mod squad. that's about it in 1968, 69, 70 so what he does as he tells his friends in school, and again he says in his own book and it is probably true that his father was a print and his grandfather was the chief of an african tribe and that sounded pretty cool. the story worked on his classmates and almost on himself when he said this. another part of me knew that what i was telling them was a lie, something that i constructed from the scraps of information that i picked up from my mother and us over the next 40 years, obama would continue constructing identities for himself. high school stoner, college marxist, new york socialist,

chicago, harvard cosmopolitan come african-american war hero, all of them were candidates and so by the time the dreams from my father came out in 1995, obama picked up the postmodern courtesy of his mentor to rationalize these identity shifts and the lie is needed to ease the transition so even the support of the obama biographer called them a mixture of verifiable fact, recollection, re- creation, invention, and artful sheeting. it is a friendly biographer. equally friendly biographer, david agreed. he said that character creations and rearrangement of the book are not merely a matter of style devices or compressions, but actually substantive. that is another term in eco- friendly biographer.

now in demand more to do the same and james frey comes to mind they get ripped to pieces on oprah. but for obama you make stuff up and get away with it. he's always been allowed to get away with it. and one of kerry clinton's aides told david, the new york editor and biographer he said we don't understand why the politically calculating nature was never discussed. we were said to be the killian said he changed his life depending on who he was talking to. and he was correct. now come, his early influences like the communist mentor in hawaii frank marshall davis and his marxist professors and his friends at occidental college did not encourage truth telling and all the leftists are not uniquely guilty of lighting they are uniquely guilty us not to

say that he's a stalin or lenin asked they are not that hard-core and it is like watching what the problem might be a. of talking about why we can't abandon trouble from west africa to the united states when it would seem like most assailants abandoned travel. he was honest about his answer and he gave the perfect multicultural answer and he said that, you know, since liberia was created and it was that responsible for the creation of liberia and bus we are responsible and america is the great oppressor in the world and we have the obligation to open the doors to liberia. that is how the multicultural stink. obama is a multiculturalist.

the problem is they can't see that. so they send those like the hapless thomas friedman the director of the cdc and he is on with meghan kelly trying to explain why it makes sense that he can't use the multicultural logic so he has to use real people watch it and it doesn't work so he is saying to meghan kelly if we don't open up travel we can help them until she says what about the charter and then he says commercial airplanes can do something with them to charter planes cannot and she says they fly in and they fly out. what is the difference.

so, what happens is that so much of the deception that comes out of the white house is because they can't get straight answers because the straight answers would fall flat with the american public. now, that is part of the reason he became the person that he became. so, his appearance mattered at least as much. he had a good fortune of growing up, thinking, talking, sounding, fostering just like a white liberal. i mean, he grew up in a white household with a white leather but he grew up like an african-american. and this gave him an advantage because the white liberals could look at them and they prove he looked like an african-american family just like they did. so you hear people wasting this.

i don't know about jesse jackson but i can imagine. you got the first african-american presidential candidate who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. i'm glad i didn't say that. san quentin. and another honest revelation, senate majority leader harry reid found comfort in obama having no negro dialect. again, glad i didn't say that. by the time the obama emerged as a national candidate every newsroom in america will talk with people that thought like kerry reid and joe biden. it's harder to calculate their attitudes towards race, but the collective media indulgence of well spoken black liberals and i will say this absolutely black

conservatives gets no such. they get the opposite, the opposite treatment. ask clarence thomas or herman cain. they ask them about that, but liberals who speak and act and sound and e-echo what the white liberals say get their incredible task in america's newsrooms and that is a major factor of making obama who he was and how he could get away with things no one else could get away with and the story in october of 2007 reported this and i'm here freezing behind closed.

no addresses, no friends or relatives. and then they just move on. as though it didn't matter that they wouldn't provide would provide all these things but that's the way that he rolled. i'm going to grab a drink hang on one second. >> i have a cold but i chose not to take an equal medicine that i would be loopy appear tonight. that had a lot to do with how he became who he was. and it started right off. early in the campaign he started in ways that no one else could have possibly gotten away with and so in september of 2007 when he was still a long shot, obama vowed if i am a democratic nominee i will aggressively pursue an agreement with the

republican nominee to preserve the publicly financed general election. it is if it is a very conscious and firm position. the problem was he found out once they took the lead he was raising more money. he never goes back on his word he says he still supported the idea of public financing to that the current system is broken and favored republicans had become the masters of gaming the system. every deception is justified. nothing is taken straight out. so remember obama doesn't give a damn because he can get away with whatever he wants. the first person to call him on it was an obscure south carolina congressman to whom i owed my

book by the way, joe wilson. this was on the night of september 9, 2009. still a highly popular president who spoke to the joint session of congress and there was in the inner they might have called the powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity. [laughter] and a long these lines they tried out that night for the first time nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage with a doctor that you have. let me repeat this nothing in the plan requires you to change what you have. at the time he said this he may have thought that it was true. yet i went back and checked the record and within two days of that announcement and in this serious dent in the publication of the white house had to be aware of the militant possible.

you can't do this and get away with it. so the first time we give them a pass and then asked pretty five times no pass. when obama denounced as false the proposed system would not ensure the legal immigrants, that is when wells and could hold it no longer and he yelled out you lied. and all hell broke loose. what happens is for the first time nancy pelosi raised their eyebrows. i didn't think that was possible. joe biden you can hear him.

obama loses his place on the teleprompter he is so shaken by this which could be a disaster and then there is a gasp. it's the kind that follows by i am telling which is exactly what they did. i immediately afterward they rushed to apologize which they do too often and the democrats rushed to the vendors to raise the money which they do all too well and that's how it broke out. now what i like is the democrat with james clyburn also from south carolina. he called wilson's behavior totally disrespectful, which it was in a sense and then the new low for the states, congressional delegation. it's the representative hasn't studied the history very closely. those of you that know your history no preston brooks a congressman from south carolina,

upset by the abolitionists went over to the senate with his buddy and he disabled him for several years and his fellow congressman held off. history's never been a strong suit in the progressive. but anyhow, next in the hubbub over the nature he said it's not that you are a light year or your lying but you lie. it was like a declaration of the man five years ahead of time before anybody else caught on. it was like some watcher of things and obama lies.

it was a natural declaration. some much more than others but only one president in the modern era has elevated the lives to the level of the strategy. even bill clinton did in to do didn't do that and got him out of barack obama. what i'm going to but i'm going to finish that and conclude with i should say what i would consider, in the book i had an article in the post they asked me how many lives did obama tell and i decided to go back and count goes there were some chapters in the book. it is a full statement is either intentionally given or it is totally indifferent to the outcome of whether it is true or not and it is usually for the stated aim so you can make an advantage out of it.

so i went back and counted the subchapters and there were 75. and at the end of the book i pulled out there's nothing george bush said by the way they found chemical weapons in iraq while that's a little late but better late than never. nothing george george bush says that have cracked the top 25. bill clinton would have corrected two or three times. that's how an how an implicit this is in the governing strategy in the administration is unprecedented. it's not just like i am making this up. there was an effort after by those two accused him of lying so we all followed it around to say bush lied. i was always tempted to build but mine was always better than theirs so i chose not to.

and there were other reasons as well. one of us had insurance and it wasn't an. anyhow, here they are. i just picked the chopsticks. my father left my family when i was 2-years-old. president obama said this to the nation's schoolchildren a year after he was elected and by that time i knew it was false and so did most of the blogosphere. this matters more than it seems and that in 2004 when he introduced the nation at the convention in boston he started the speech with a basic line i'm the product of an improbable love between a goat herders and garvey from kansas and they had an abiding faith in the possibility of the nation. he built this persona and his campaign around this perfect

little multicultural family that was disrupted when his father barack obama senior was invited to harvard as when obama was two and he had to make a painful decision to make that choice. as david said this was the signature appeal to the multicultural idea based on the family life. wow, if it was improbable, and there is doubt in that, i suspect that no longer from closing time to the moment he senior cup the next morning, i need here is what we know for a fact that obama never spend a single night under the roof of his father. we've known this from 2008 before the election. we knew that obama and his mother spent the first year if his life in seattle washington. people watching this on c-span,

those that had had the stomach to hang in here saying i didn't know this, yes. it wasn't until 2012 that the "washington post" here with their prizewinner acknowledged they didn't say it was right but they did say there was a family. the family. they live together their first year on and the first was in seattle as a three week old -week-old roughly in late august of 1961 and yet there were four major biographies written between the election. "the new york times" writes a biography and she doesn't tell us a word about where his mother was from that the time she left school in february of 61 for the time he was born. not the word and there is a controversy about this. what happens if the people that

used to be called reporters that generation ago are called the conspiracy theorists because they try to fill in the gaps and it isn't easily gotten because the mainstream people are not doing the job they ought to be doing. but the notion after the expos they could tell the nation's schoolchildren he was 2-years-old when his father left knowing that no one would call him on it and knowing that he knew or care about it with call him on it but that's the way they roll. now number five, the fast and furious program with a field and initiated program began under the previous administration obama spun the fiction that the un division for him knowing that it was false because several months earlier at the white house press secretary had made the same claim virtually word for word at a press conference.

jake showed up as the only one that called him up from the major media. he pointed out no i have the memo it was started in october of 2009. then he repeated it three months later. there needs to be more done on fast and furious by the way. this one is kind of bold. not even a smidgen of corruption. [laughter] some of you know the question that preceded this this came in response to bill o'reilly just before the 2,014th super bowl about the irs scandal. o'reilly said you're saying no corruption and obama says not even a smidgen of corruption. it's hard to understand that

when the news first broke he said it's inexcusable and americans have a right to be angry about it and i am. this was a year earlier and now there isn't a smidgen of corruption but the investigation is still ongoing. how could they see this on the investigation isn't finished? we reveal exactly what we understood at the time. he made this claim in response to the same 2,014th super bowl about benghazi. then he goes on to say the notion that we would hide for political purposes when a week later we all sat in fact there was a terrorist attack and then

in fact he goes goes on to say the day after i said that there wouldn't be a good cover-up he claimed of course the day after the attack he said it was a terrorist attack and that most prominently during the 2012 debate with mitt romney where the cnn mediator who was like a tag team wrestling match was dealing with some heavyweights at the side that made it even more difficult. [laughter] sorry. anyway go back and and watched it a few times in real time and it's very distressing to see what happens. romney has obama cornered and he's a student you're saying after first of all they give

them the setup line something about hillary clinton says that it's her responsibility and as obama strives up they say they know it's going to have been. but the buck stops here. it's my responsibility. i take full responsibility in other words i said it was a terrorist attack. then romney gets up and says you said it was a terrorist attack the morning after and now he's sitting in the back and he says yes i just want this on the record he said it was a terrorist attack the morning after and then obama says candy and she starts waving a piece of paper. yes he said it was a terrorist attack. then the audience starts applauding. and now romney and obama starts

talking let's move on. he says get the transcript and she is waving it like it was a transcript. that was a killer moment in the history of that candidacy. she did a similar thing with fast and furious. but i go into that in the book. but the first time remember he says a week later we said said was a terrorist attack here is what he says a week later you know where he took his first question and what show he was on when they took the first question it was exactly one day later they take the first questions about benghazi. here is the literal quote. you had a video released by someone and he is sort of a

shady character. these are people who apply for the buck was a double standard. making fun of the prophet mohammed. that's the first question he took. a week later he was blaming it on the video and on the david letterman show. of the rule of law will be the touchstone for the presidency. [applause]

it was precisely the violation of the promise that good out to be was so upset and transparency and the rule of law. number one promise violated i do solemnly swear that i will faithfully execute the office of president of the united states and will be greatest in the ability to protect and defend the constitution of the united states. [applause] he and his fee and on the bible on that one. mendacity has its point and i'm going to update this a little bit. it's not in the book but it's relevant. he said what people wanted to hear is the chant of an outbreak

in the united states were low. the u.s. increased airport screenings screening so no screenings of the one with the disease could fly here and in the unlikely event someone with the disease does come to the country the government has taken new measures to ensure doctors are trained in hospitals are ready to deal with a possible case safely. three days later september 19 thomas eric duncan left his house in liberia he was sharing a patient. he lied about his contact with her and boarded the plane by way of dulles airport with almost no screening at all and on september 2015 walked into the texas hospital nauseous and feverish and despite the expedition in liberia and his illness no one tested and two to three days after that he was

admitted and only after a friend called the cdc. nothing obama settles to the 16th was true. airport screening was inadequate, hospitals were not prepared and the arrival of a patient proved much too likely. this carelessness and i'll not only is the norm. in my book are the fabrications and i document more than 75 deceptions in the staff i ended up writing a history of the presidency. thank you. [applause]

those of you that are bold enough to want to be on national tv can do so by walking up to the microphone and asking a question. my name is bill preston. i recently returned from new orleans where i had to bury my 54-year-old sister. one of the things that sustained me was knowing that i would get back to independence. arriving there of course i went

to a wednesday evening bible study. via he was there he was talking about humility and i will get to the point quickly. everything that he said defied humility. to him and myself, i confessed i was just returning from burying my baby sister and how distraught i was and how therapeutic it was knowing that i had returned to independence because i was going to return to this wonderful church of good people that i identified with that were such great questions and i loved them because they were the best bunch of liars and cheats but i have ever seen but

i just loved. my question is how different is barack obama and a typical member of my church? >> we are all sinners and ensure we have all told lies. i would say the difference is that members of your baptist church don't lie strategically, consciously, relentlessly and for the sake of gaining power. that i would say is the difference. [applause] but as i mentioned all presidents have lied. it's inevitable. sometimes they are even understandable. but in obama's case it is just relentless. it's not even interesting

anymore. >> of the gentleman before we spoke the truth about what's going on in our nation regarding our religious leaders. this is the problem taxing income is stealing. but johnson the johnson amendment in the 5043 c. region and the irs tax code has our pastors to the point that they are almost. how do we break the bonds of the pastors may be able to begin like the black robe regiment of the revolutionary period can speak truth to power so folks will understand what we are facing today >> i'm familiar with that law so

i would say read the law and the case history. they use it to intimidate people because they are not aware of the consequences of it. no one, no preacher has ever been prosecuted under the law although they may be tried in houston. yes ma'am. >> my name is barbara stockton and i just want to say i saw on television today houston was trying to get the ministers to give them their sermons and i know this is off of the point where you started i just wanted to throw this in. the ministers said they are online and we are happy to see see their sermons are they just checked back on it. >> my being here right now on c-span is testament to that of thank you c-span which by the

way was founded by brian lamb so there you go. >> my name is mark and my question is what do you think the long-term impact on the next presidency and the following one congressman doctor z. would have -- >> i just saw cook the other day the strategist on the morning show show saying i think we made a mistake in 2012. we didn't elect mitt romney. i think what you need for the next president is someone you trust him as someone who is a fixture who can fix things and leave an organized. there may be a battle between the ideologue one of them myself

actually into the pragmatist who is also myself. [laughter] we need someone who can lead and who can fix. >> the news came out this week that obama's popularity is at 46% right now and about several programs and efforts were crumbling. the effort against isis is crumbling and even the joint chiefs of staff bumbling with any people on the ground to people to handle this. the dictum that if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor,

period. if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance. that has become evening weeknight talk show jokes. so do we think the chalk and popularity has to do with the people understanding this has been an era of falsehood telling or is it just until they can get some kind of a band-aid on the program's? >> i think the independence in america and if you see the poll numbers you'll see this registered a lot of it has to do with credibility. they may not even care about taxes because so many people don't pay taxes but they do care about it then there's that lives down the street is from

something that didn't have to happen. that's when people really begin to pay attention and obama have a signature line and that is if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it and that's when people started paying attention because it had been personally and then they caught on and i don't think there is any recovery for the obama administration. i'm worried about the next two years in fact. hopefully the lord above takes care of us somehow. >> there is a debate going on whether the current administration is incompetent or if this is their grand plan and they are achieving their objectives. what can you speak to that issue on? the >> i talk about this in the book. he's a master in a sleight-of-hand and during the campaign of 2008 and even

afterwards people were debating is he a pragmatist, progressive, socialist, communist, is he christian, is he muslim or is he atheist. what they but they were not debating is did he really care. how serious was he? he always swam in the shallow end of the pool. and the history i don't see someone who cared enough to get things done so from day one he promised he would" on the. of democratic house and democratic senate. you can do this by executive order. six years later he's blaming the republican congress. too many people on the street think the republicans controlled the congress because that's the way it is presented to them in the media. republicans may control the congress by the time it aired but right now they don't.

so that's part of it. i don't think that he cares that much. some people say that he was to be a dictator. you have to care to want to be a dictator and conquer and do things. that's not our president. >> i'm a vietnam veteran and i remember 50 years ago when i was 17-years-old i knew that lbj was a lawyer and as far as i'm concerned, barack obama is the layer of lbj of the 21st century i'm a danger to the country because i'm a grey haired old man and i know the truth and they wouldn't if they got them in the gluteus maximus as far as i'm concerned. [laughter] i'm retired for 25 years service responsible for millions of dollars and thousands of patients. this thing with the va doesn't surprise me one bit. 45 years dealing with the va one-way or another so thank god

most of god most of me came home that i could file dual citizenship in vietnam because part of me is still there. >> thank you for your service and coming out tonight. >> i would rather save $5 a gallon gasoline then send another person overseas. >> there has been a back story to to that and that is when obama was running for president in 2008 he told a story about how his uncle came home having liberated auschwitz, went home, traumatized by what he had seen, went up to the attic and stayed there for six months because there wasn't adequate va care and then someone pointed out his great uncle was in the lord but

they interviewed him later on and he said i never had a promise like that. he was interviewed by a german magazine, not an american magazine but they made up that story to highlight that any cool treatment of the va and then later in the campaign he was speaking to a group of hispanic veterans and he told them he changed the story and now he's had his father was the one. they said he was like a 14-year-old was he what is he doing fighting under patton x. [laughter] but when he came home with problems the va took care of them because now they take care of the white veterans but not the hispanic veterans. so there are stories all the time to make a point regardless

if they are true enough into the after effect of the decisions to exist. >> i have two points. first falls on the category of what mr. prescott alluded to and mentioned people deflating humility because you are responsible for urging me to write for the american thinker and one of the first articles that was published was called don't be fooled by obama's incompetence and i know that i am far more cynical than you or about that issue are about that issue but i stand by my premise that obama is not incompetent and he is following a design and he takes in a strategy and that

peace is still quoted all over and you are all welcome to read it. my second point is one of a statement but not necessarily a question. it seems that his lies fall into several categories. there are the statements that are folks false at the time that they are uttered and we all know it. there are the statements that the facts come along to expose them as lies and contradictions where he makes a statement and later makes another contradictory statements such as it wasn't a terrorist attack or it was a. i think and you could say that i'm defending the president but i think in that last category

mentioned there is precedent for that and i know the model that mr. obama is following when he issues a statement and later a contradictory statement and that model is the holy koran where we know the verses that come later render the earlier versus an operative -- and operative. >> i have a chapter in the book on gas and it could be where you say what you mean that you don't want it to be be sad set when he's talking to george stephanopoulos and talking about john mccain attacking the muslim faith, christian faith.

doesn't inspire confidence especially in a person whose history is so clouded. i disagree somewhat. i think that he's following the strategy but i don't think that he's polling at following -- if he were following it while people with warm up to it but what they were doing it in the opposite. he stands the chance of alienating a great deal of america on election day and we will see how that works out. >> if he isn't following the script or if he is who is reading the script and who is doing all of the teleprompter things and putting all those things out there lacks is he doing this extemporaneously or is it being written for him behind the scenes x. >> she has had ghostwriters help them out. [laughter]

bill helped him with the first story dreams from my father and the second book was most likely largely written by his young speechwriter but it was written by committee and the reason they could rate by committee is because he to say that these people tend to think alike. when you see people up there saying that we can't abandon travel out of west africa today and the democrats in congress approve of that you're thinking they don't have to be told -- there is no soviet union now masterminding things as they used to do. i think it is so generated. we could say people like david axelrod or bill ayres or whoever but i think the low among them

is so oriented the same direction that they don't need a great outside source. anyone else that hasn't spoken yet? >> i am beverly worth. i have a question for you, jack. i found out that barack obama deployed national guard to west africa. now my question is isn't he pushing the envelope as far as the legal grounds of these young men? they didn't sign up to fight infectious disease. they signed up to protect the country. >> i would say yes and no to that. it's complicated by the fact they made eye fighting infectious diseases kill other people back home fighting

infectious disease. i think it is the province of the president to do that. i'm going to vary a little bit from that question and tell you to tell you in the book i talk about one action that didn't get attention that deserves attention that i think is fully unconstitutional is our initial engagement in libya. in 2011 when we went in it isn't even mentioned at the state of the union speech come at the state of the union speech as far as anyone knows as john mccain told us libya was our ally in fighting terrorism. qaddafi was our ally. two months later we are signing on a week behind in attacking libya and the reason that obama gave is that.

if we didn't get engaged in libya. now there is a guy that i cited in the book, harvard democratic strategist he went in and did the math. he said look the surest way of knowing if there be a bloodbath is what happened in the second largest in libya. and when he fought the rebels only 200 people died died and they were all soldiers. women were killed and children were killed. there was no bloodbath. why would he not duplicated that in benghazi this is the same strategy that bill clinton used in serbia and kosovo in 1999. it worked then and it works now. we should take one more question. yes ma'am in the back.

>> first of all thank you for being here. i can't wait to read your book. my question is do you personally think that we would be able to flip the senate in three weeks? >> it's interesting because it will be gone i don't be gone until after that. [laughter] >> i'm going to start the dance altogether. i think there is a good chance that we will do that. [applause] >> okay. last question. >> i just want to say that when the danesh -- and he needs to be prayed for because he's being monitored by the government -- the thing is what has come of the movie and the buck and all of the information that came out is that obama -- and this is

something that a lot of the low information voters do not understand what a non- colonialist is. they don't know what it is or that is or care probably. but the thing is when you look at how his mother had to live and it's even in "dreams from my father," he had to go to the bathroom in a hole in the ground. he apparently reasoned that, but his mother hadn't lived like that and that by the way, she left her second husband when he wanted to join and fight with the -- our side. but the thing is -- i'm not saying that he is a muslim, okay. what im saying is that if he were, i don't think that he

would do anything different from what he has been doing and he is doing now in including helping the result of having isis. i don't believe they had taken baghdad yet. but they are marching on and on and on. this is what i don't get. if he has all these millions coming from the southern border and bringing all these diseases, he is trying to turn on us, i think, with the help of the money of george soros can't he's trying to turn that into a third world country. i do think that he's doing that to get even with us and i think that's to prove it, the first thing that he did was ask to have the bust of winston churchill removed from the white house because britain did something to his grandfather

into rebellion. it's been a good point. many points made. to sum up your question coming in here is the problem with where we are right now there is so much we don't know. i addressed this in the media. we know more about george washington's first two years than then we know about barack obama. jesus christ's birth was much better documented than barack obama. that is 2,000 year ago. so, we are less than six years in the presidency. big holes. so we can only speculate when people like you and i speculate that the people in washington held air they say that. i haven't seen anyone in spite of the beltway talk about about with a buttery genius obama is in a couple of years now. sometimes the word does get out.

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