wants folks to take his word on. when anything is said about my record it is demonstrably false. i am not buying it and i don't did anyone else's. >> moderator: you get to respond to the question about negative ads, rick allen. allen: there is some reason that barack obama and nancy pelosi are out there raising money and spending almost $7 million trying to trash my business. now, the biggest issue is not ads. the biggest issue is jobs, the economy, and this deficit. why in the world, if that is the biggest issue, which you try to take down the small business? we are one of the most trusted businesses in the country. i am proud of the business. in fact, i am proud of this fact, they have not been able to find one owner, one employee, or one subcontractor i have worked with to put up on television and talk about how badly are

furthermore, that he is talking about, we never did that project. ..furthermore the ad he is talking about we never did that jail project. the one he is talking about the lawsuit on. the low bidder was allowed job. it is a total lie and i am sick of it. all of it is a bunch of lies and we know why they are doing it. they want to keep their boy in washington. >> moderator: the candidates get to ask a question, 30 seconds to respond and 60 seconds for a rebuttal. rick allen you lead it off. >> allen: you are a harvard educated attorney and you talk a good game and confuse me a lot even. you have been in congress for a decade and in the decade the budget of the country has

doubled. the deficit has more than doubled. we have all kinds of security issues. you cannot keep your doctor, you can't keep your health care plan -- >> moderator: real quick question. >> allen: i would like you to say when you will go to work. >> barrow: congress has no incentives to pass bills that go anywhere. that is why i support real no budget no pay and legislation that prevents congress from being paid unless they do their job and that is enact fiscal spending. automatic pilot takes the deficit pile up. that is why i support real budget, no pay. they haven't happened because there is too many people luke me. it is because of too few people

like me. no one thinks congress is on this path because there are too many bipartisan folks it is because they have too many folks like my opponent. >> moderator: mr. allen, your rebuttal? >> allen: the no budget no pay is politics as usual. we had our own no budget-no pay bill and your opponent voted against that bill. so there is a terrible lack of consistency there. and that is disturbing. but further more, these are real issues. the jobs, the economy and this deficit. there are folks having a difficult time-out there and they want a congressman who grows the economy and gets it done.

>> moderator: mr. barrow it is your time. >> your ad says i voted against the no pay and my question to you is direct and simple: would you have voted for the no budget no pay law you criticized me for? >> allen: i would have voted yes. >> barrow: that bill allowed congress to not adopt a budget, let them get paid and allow the debt ceiling increased. you just endorsed a bill to raise the debt ceiling without anything to show for it. we need members of congress who are paying attention and not playing games and independent enough to do what is in the best

interest of the district. >> moderator: this is the debate for georgia's 12th congressional round. we will go to the third round where the panelist question the members until we run out of time. >> my question is for congressman barrow and this is from david in agusta. with the poll showing 75% of americans support term limit for the house and senate why are you running again? >> barrow: i believe in term limits but i believe in the term limits are founders gave us. they will not solve the real problems. congress isn't as unrepresented as it is because too many folks are elected from the same place. they do a good job representing our district but it is their

district that doesn't do a good job. this is why i support redistricting reform. we will have people look at the national interest locally and locally when they deal nationally. we need have a system where the people chose the leaders rather than the politicians choosing the voters and nothing solves the problems with the house of representatives until we do that. >> moderator: walter jones it is your turn. >> mr. allen, your opponent was organized by a muslim center and you refused to participate in that venue. does that portray a religious bias on your part? >> allen: no, we never refused to participate in that debate. >> but you refused to

participate in that location. >> allen: nothing from my mouth or campaign refused to debate john barrow any time. >> why didn't it happen at the islamic center? >> allen: we got a call saying we are moving it and steve crawford said he wasn't going to be part of the debate and we said what do we do now and they said it is going to be at the columbia county and i said okay we will be there. >> moderator: michele worth it is your time. >> mr. barrow, you are on record saying you will appeal parts of the affordable care act. when parts and how would you approve the law? >> barrow: lots of ways. there have been more than 50 votes to appeal bits and pieces and i voted to repeal half of

them. i want to repeal the parts that are not working and keep the parts that are. i believe we should end the employer and individual mandate and the cuts to medicare advantage. i voted to repeal already or endorsed to appeal. the parts i want to keep are the ban on preexisting conditions. i don't think we should go back to the days when people were discriminated against on such. i will support a reform of the bill. that has been my policy all along and hasn't change. >> mike wants to know what you would do to help veterans? >> allen: we had a very strong veterans committee in the district. in fact, i spoke at the veterans

convention in macon on saturday morning. we talked about the issues facing them. i have been down and had a briefing at the agusta location and the dublin location. the problems there could be fixed. they need a certain amount of a autonomy to operate. we need to give the veterans every option for good care because our government has the priority system upside down. >> moderator: walter jones your turn. >> congressman barrow, it letter was sent out saying if you don't vote there is another ferguson

incident in georgia and a lot of people said that was a blatant race card play. what is your feeling about that and do you agree with that mailer? >> barrow: i absolutely don't. i am disgusted by its tone. i don't condone this. i know how to talk to folks to bring people together. i feel like i had the ability to bring folks together. that is what it is needed. you cannot do unless it is a pip fashion. i don't approve or condone it. >> moderator: michele worth your turn. >> mr. allen, your candidate said he can work along party lines. are you willing to do the same? and what issues can you work with democrats on? >> allen: we know what works. we know how to grow the economy. we know what worked in the past. i believe we need to be

idea-driven. if we are ideal driven we can solve the problems in the country. let me tell you what is happening in washington as far as bipartisan. there are 372 bills on harry reid's desk and these are energy bills and such stopped at the senate level. harry reid is a member of the democratic party. john barrow's party and he has no influence or he would be getting something done. >> moderator: your turn. >> what is your position on marriage quality?

>> i believe it is between a man and woman but at the time same i go to ronald reagan who doesn't believe in discrippmination against anyone. i think it is the governor's obligation to accommodate itself to the faith community not the other way around. i know it puts me at odds with a lot of democrats but i believe it is my job to tell you what i can. >> moderator: walter jones, another question from you. >> mr. allen, you have put about a million dollars of your own money into this campaign. some observers might say couldn't that benefit the district more if you would given it to a food shelter or even your church instead of what looks like sort of an ego trip? >> allen: let me tell you about that.

that is a great question, w walter. i have worked out in the community. we are solving lots of community problems with the united way, christ community services and heritage school. but i found out we cannot solve the problems in the community as fast as washington is creating them. so you know, i sociology believed we have to go to the root of the problem. we have to stop the government from creating the problems we know how to solve in the local community. >> moderator: michele worth another question for you. >> mr. barrow, where should we cut the budget? >> barrow: we should get the budget in balance and eliminate things we are not using. i also think that we need tax

reform of the kind that is recommended in the simpson bowls commission. they have pointed out if we had tax reform and everybody paying the same rates we could lower the rates for everyone that is one of i support. and we have work hard to make sure the regulators, even the executive branch or independent agencies are not smothering businesses with high cost low beneficial regulations. we need to make sure job creators are not being smothered. >> my question is for mr. allen and this comes from andrea. he wants to know what your views are on gun control, concealed carry. >> allen: i believe in the second amendment. i am a life-time member of the

nra and i believe in concealed carry. as citizens we must protect yourselvyour our sefblgz -- ourselves and i would work to protect the second ame amendment. >> i would like to talk about the adds. i would like to hear you talk about one that is produced supporting you making a claim that you don't stand by. start with you mr. barrow. >> barrow: i said i don't approve of the content of any of the messages i have not put out but i cannot say i distance myself from the concerns about my opponents business record. i don't know the message all of

the other folks are saying. i am responsible for the messages i put out and i say i approve this message. and i can say and you can verify the messages i put out are about what i stand for and accomplished. i think that is the way it ought to be. if we didn't have the outside funding it would be clearer who is running a positive campaign and who is not. after two months of solid bashing from my opponent, i had not mentioned my opponent once in a single ad. that is the gold standard of a positive campaign. >> moderator: mr. allen? >> allen: it is pinning one against the other. as far as the ad that basically was run -- the fact is john

barrow only got one bill through the senate and that is to rename a post office. >> moderator: that is all of the time we have for questions. candidates have 60 seconds for a closing statement and rick allen gets the first statement. >> allen: thank you for having us. it has been a great time to talk about the issues. i want to leave the voters with this and this only. let me tell you, on november 4th, you have a big discussion to make. if you like the direction of the country. if you like what is going on in country vote for my opponent. if you want change, job growth, grow the economy, vote for rick allen on november 4th. thank you very much. >> moderator: john barrow you may give your closing

>> >> i have been designated as the mood was bipartisan members of congress and i think the last thing we need to do is replace one of the most bipartisan members of congress was one of the most partisan candidates around. i believe to create jobs and accountability and accessibility to put your interest of both parties and i ask your goal of the padded to have your support. >> moderator: that concludes our debate the general election is tuesday november 4th and early voting is already under way. our thanks to the candidates tonight. great questions and also the

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>> senator carter has big ambitions for his big promises falling short of the truce. he claims to be caring for the middle-class restricted middle-class access to the hope scholarship and his plea and increased spending requiring higher taxes on small business and the middle-class. senator carter falling short and untrustworthy. >> we dated five years before we got married that after five more years we had our firstborn than two years later we had thomas and it has been the adventure of our lives. he is the best dad they love him his apparent teacher on friday at preschool he reads to them. he is very courageous he is strong and not afraid and never afraid to do what he thinks is right.

>> how do we get there? governor deal lower taxes and builds of skilled ready work force giving to the georgia families a future. screening over 294,000 new jobs the of the business climate leads the nation for the first time in history georgia is the number one place to do business. >> hello i am andrew hunt i want to represent u.s. governor. 80 percent refused to vote in the primary because you are sick of left leaving politics all you have to do is vote to take a back we want to move away from the bottom but to the top of what government out of our lives reduce regulation and to create jobs to bring georgia back to work zero i

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ryan costello and manan trivedi participated in this debate courtesy of ♪ >> moderator: will come to the debate between the six congressional district i say debate but the format is no formal note time dancers or rebuttals more of a conversation. they will talk about the issues and i hope to encourage the only formal part comes that the end here are the candidates and the republican candidate is castillo from a practicing attorney and from the board

of commissioners. and we're glad to have you both here. the sixth congressional district is oddly shaped i don't know what to liken it to from the western suburbs of philadelphia from three would all the way west so you know, the area that we talk about. so let's talk about some of the issues and i thought i would talk start with the pocket issue as jobs in the economy are number one that in light of the current atmosphere of what you could call one is said group that threatens us people wonder

if it is stoppable the other is the disease that came over suddenly if it is stoppable so people look to their leaders in un to face your constituents what would you say to assure them? >> with their security issues with komen security orients -- a national security to provide a certain coherence and much better than washington has been working so the first thing you want to senior elected leader is strafing clarity and a willingness to aggressively pursue safety measures in a way your constituents feel you work

with everybody to get it done better is the best preliminary approach you want to explain to constituents and you want to say i may not have all the answers but working with members of congress and the administration and that is where we start. >> into tavis significant experience i would say let's talk about this to draw about this experience for those decisions made in congress when it comes to ebola there is a lot of panic and hysteria is there

a touch hands of pandemic? we have to talk to experts to hear with they are saying to quarantine those to endemic area is thin comeback with symptoms in the other important issue. and if they had proper funding so we have to remember how to budget decisions with medical research and innovation. >> there is no doubt we're underfunded and things like

the sequester to cut spending -- funding across the board it is clear results of that underfunding because they wanted to take a hatchet without thinking things through that these are the investments we need for a long time so remember this panic the widespread concern i know firsthand there is a threat but it is so critical with this into the experts and public health officials before we jump. >> intelligent budgeting is part of it cutting across the board indiscriminately

makes no sense. every single year we have quarterly meetings is a transparent process and a layout priorities. and other anti-immunization programs and disease control we need to make sure we invest in the people but but to talk about ebola why weren't we ahead of the curve on this rather than pulling pointing fingers made to project in a forward looking way to clarity to work together and solve this talk about the rising tide to bar people coming in from those countries? >> on commercial flights yes minder standing it was not a

direct flight from west africa to the united states though it is as those from countries that do have ebola present there should be at least a 21 day waiting period to make sure would not make a problem worse. >> net of the incubation could be more than 100 days now so this is a problem with politicians making decisions about health care we have too many professional politicians so let's talk to the experts. >> the cdc directors said it should be counterproductive even if the efforts and it

would be harder to attract those people because they come from different places. >> so my statement is not indicating we should not seek to comeback but through military or medical or isolated air travel to make sure it is done in the appropriate way. this is the situation where they need to listen to the experts in rearing their predicament right now so the evidence coming out. >> there is a lot the public is thinking in rumors are spreading so we need to calm down and listen to the experts but they have said

if the ban commercial flights they will come through other ways that we cannot track them where it is much harder to see if they have fevers are where they come from. listen to the experts and not the politicians these guys who are professional lawmakers are politicians all the sudden with the crisis or a news topic comes up these guys jump up and down and here is the answer? and i think is more evidence comes out we will head in another direction to eliminate these diseases to keep americans feeling secure and safe. >> we need someone who can be a leader of health care and that person would be the surgeon general but we don't have one right now.

why? because the nra has blocked the confirmation of the surgeon general because he said one thing one day about gun violence and frankly. >> but a couple of things so plain that political blame game but that other element we don't have someone in the white house administration with the bile terrorism policy advisor that is not something i intended to share in a debate because it with our approach to governing how to approach issues but to play that political blame game.

>> is critical to know why we don't have the surgeon general. >> we may come back to the nra but as they called it briefly in the beginning this air strikes against isis' john mccain made a comment last week the bad guys are winning and the ground forces are needed to defeat them is the wrong? >> that we need more? >> he said the bad guys are winning it will take ground forces on the ground. >> i don't think he is absolutely wrong but have a strong plan to reach out isis where they are in this is critical for those who have real world experience and i served in iraq with the marines and know how hard it is to get things done i have lost friends in

iraq and one to make sure that we destroy isis but also to do with the right way but we also learn from our lessons with a plan that has benchmarks so we have an exit strategy if that takes boots on the ground so be it but i don't think we need a regiment or a division to go in there but i think as i talked my friends and colleagues of the surgical strike where there are boots on the ground might draw on the ground in iraq it would take special forces to gather intelligence and a much more strategic way with metrics and the exit strategy this is what we did not do in iraq and afghanistan but what we need to do. >> thank you for your service and everyone who

serves in the military as well as our families for their sacrifices that much the same but listen to our military leaders and the strikes and the training that we provided and to say what the american public deserves and ever since the iraq war started with much more coming up out of the executive branch and there is less accountability with foreign policy than there should be. the matter what side you come down all to believe the american public deserves to hear what we do before we do it nattily long-term investment militarily when

troops come home we have to care for them we need to look at this. >> we have the lowest number of veterans in congress ever and how did we make these blunders? >> so it is really to be informed with that. >>. >> do i think it is a good idea? >> look at what challenges we have in the middle east here is a problem. what we have in washington d.c. right now we're not even operating under a budget continuing resolution after continuing resolution

the house and the senate cannot come to an agreement? all of a sudden we have these demands as a country and we're not even carrying said issues to speak about with budgeting pierides. >> moderator: your question was the military budget. trivedi: also talk about specific policy a do think there is a lot of waste and abuse in the department of defense that was a health policy advisor so i saw some of that those that will never see the light of day. there is a revolving door. >> moderator: if the percentage of the government outlay with defense was a little smaller than a few years ago in continues in

that direction is that the right way? trivedi: if it doesn't cut troops but it cuts the contractors i was on the project they were building a new destroyer class five years into it they burned up all the money the contractor said we need more money we have have the ship. they paid them double billions of dollars of waste goes to these contractors we should make sure the troops are paid that is a miniscule part of the deal we should cut some of these defense contractors. >> moderator: now talking about tax policy "time" magazine wrote something is broken in the economy with job creation so poor that we look at it generation to be permanently less well off than their parents the

recovery seems weak wages are flat where do we begin? >>. trivedi: the budget that the republicans push that my opponent. >> that is not true. trivedi: you did not raise the right and budget? you did in "the philadelphia inquirer". costello: at to address the subject what i think we need to focus on is balancing a budget within a certain number of years my opponent has offered nothing. trivedi: about what i support right now. >> what do at the county level is have budget

meetings and to go back in time for and what is not being taken up by the senate from one who has offered nothing it is silly political stuff address the fact that our budget is broken in washington d.c. and let's let's get those that have the independent streak and work to find common sense solutions to get things done that is where i have attended every single level of government government, every two years the brings out more of those far left talking points but it is not actually solving the problem so if he wants

to offer a budget here is where the cuts will be. costello: he talks about county commissioner he raise taxes. >> raising taxes by 5%. >> he cut open space spending and cut funding for children and families. he just talks and says these platitudes you just talked about the open seat he is just like him voting for the right and budget. trivedi: voters want to know how you will'' that is all we ever ask for and we'd

never get this. we get a nice political speech. i will talk about real ideas costello: partnership to build america is bipartisan 30 democrats it is co-sponsored and it does not raise $1 in taxes but it takes the corporate money overseas brings back 70 million to invest with infrastructure that is the type of bill that i support to say this is bipartisan and we can fund infrastructure projects. >> i agree that is a good bill. that is number one but number two you living and working in washington d.c.. you do.

so to attack me on a budget that invest in libraries are open spaces that modernizes? >> moderator: wrap up the comment first and i will comeback. >> said chester county fraternal order of police the fire chief why i have that endorsement is because i willing to make the difficult decisions that we are investing in public safety. >> moderator: was specifically are things that we would be hard for you to do that you thank you ought to do to trim the deficit? it may be difficult for what you stand for bud nobody wants to talk about the third rail of entitlements

medicare or social security at some point there has to be some of means testing. trivedi: that brian budget would turn medicare into a voucher program. >> the answer the question. trivedi: i know you get excited sometimes. >> we need to have people who understand health care not professional politicians like my opponent. >> i can talk about health care and though i am blue in the face but i know there is so much waste in health care it is not market based solutions that we need to get to the heart of the health care problem that so much of what we do does not make you healthier but it will jack up the cost we

have people to incentivize the best practices there is a new things that medicare does that is incentivizes that 30 days and ignition you come back and for that same diagnosis within three -- 30 days they will not pay for it because doctors and hospitals and clinics are incentivize to make sure they have polyps this is the innovations that people are doing in some experts say 30 percent of health care is wasted that is how we get to the heart of the medicare problem. >> moderator: okay. what about that entitlement situation? costello: the problem with

their health care system and though dash system governing is in between the patient and the doctor and my belief we need to get government out between a patient and the doctor my opponent wants more government which i think will drive up costs even more to reduce access to a 99 noticed by your website he said replacing obamacare is that the way to go? >> we need to fix it obamacare will be here and we need to fix it. i agree. >> moderator: you have to go? tis. costello: the definition of employee should be of 40 hours not 30. number two if you like your health care plan you should keep it that as of the

president promised my opponent was the policy advisor is used to brag about that now we don't hear that anymore because it has turned into a big problem with the delivery of medical care. >>. >> we need to fix obamacare who better than a physician who knows obamacare? >> it should be 50 employees for the health care tax credit we need more options that employs can get which is a higher deductible with lower-cost the affordable care act is not affordable i know health care i was asked to advise because they know what i am doing in these other types of folks that we need. >> everyone is claiming that political ladder. >> writes. you are running for congress.

here is how you reduce the cost of medicare with medical liability reform. i support my opponent the real-estate lawyer born and raised in the area so i think we should have medical liability reform. i a support that throughout my time in this campaign and before that but did you new health care it was more the cbo said it will not make a bet dent for any closing comments are that you would

like to tell people why they should not elect use. >> thanks for coming. all i have to say to all of voters who are making said choice will carry records in but we have done and our lives with our careers and make your decision and. of significant rain we need to change the way washington works. the best way is by changing the people we send down there. thank you for your time. costello: want to thank my eight opponents to be here and also things for the opportunity. what we need in washington d.c. is common sense. we need folks you want to get to yes but not find a way to say no. every level of government i have served at the town shipper county level work with republicans or

democrats to get results whether investing in open space for balancing budgets to make difficult decisions and as a small business lawyer were we have grown our firm, i know how to create jobs, i have done that and i want to work with others when of the few places you can even vote for yourself on november 4th i appreciate your opportunity to hear the debate. >> moderator: i have so much more to talk about. [laughter] but that is our time. thanks for being here gentleman and thanks for watching we hope this helps.

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♪ ♪ ♪ >> welcome to the 2014 congressional district debate. this is the second congressional debate and the last an hour, we feature losses brought topical discussions and a lightning round of quick answers. the questions will come from the new staff and from members of the public are it the candidates will also have a chance to question each other. the republican candidate in this race is bruce poliquin. a former state treasurer. he had sought the nomination for governor before winning his party's nomination in the second district is here. the democratic candidate is emily cain, a state senator and also served in the house of representatives. she is married and lives in the state. and then we have the independent

candidate, blaine richardson. he is a retired navy officer and is married and lives in belfast. welcome to you all. we are coming to you from lewiston. the first segment of this debate, we will talk with broad topical questions and we want to devote about five or six minutes total to each of those. and we wanted to be able to articulate your opinion and your positions and also your differences from one another. we determined the order earlier and emily, please go first. >> the first question is the overall unemployment rate has gone but it is higher than that in several counties in the second district area for example, in washington county, the unemployment rate is 1.9% and a neighboring county to 7.3%. voters say the economy as their number-one issue. how can you as a representative in congress helped grow the economy and add jobs in this

district? >> thank you, and i'm so glad to be here tonight to talk with you and voters across the second district. we need an economy that works for everyone, and that means that we have to work with business and education and government to find solutions. when you talk about the unemployment rate being low, that's not how it feels in the second district, particularly with the announcements of layoffs across our state. what families are going through right now is heartbreaking and scary. and it's causing an economic anxiety across the whole district. as i have traveled through all of the counties in the second district 70 times over the past year and a half, there are bright spots as we provide solutions and talk to business owners across the state. for me it was a few weeks ago when i earned the endorsement of the united states senator angus king. we met with kathy leonard, an owner of a business. she's growing a traditional main

business and turning it into a business for the 21st century. i combining research and development would work from the federal government, something that i have worked in support of her years, she is coupling that with support for her workers and an international market. she's the right kind of business leader the one item in congress i will be listening to and thinking about as i work to build the economy. but more than that for the past few years, in my role as the democratic leader, i'm the only one who has worked across the aisle to lower taxes for smaller businesses. i'm the only one in this race that has worked across the aisle to cut more than $4 billion in state spending, which is an important way that we keep our state on track. in order to do that, we have to work with republicans and democrats and independents to balance budgets. that's the kind of leadership that we need, leadership that

focuses on businesses and knows how to work across the aisle. >> moderator: take you, emily. blaine richardson come how can you as a representative in congress helped grow the economy and add jobs in the second district? richardson: is a truly sad problem through the second district, you go through the downtown and there is a park bench and a site used to be there. in 1979 when i got back to main, there were one males and three tannery's and shoe stores and factories, it's all gone now. we have recently had no closures, this one in bucksport is absolutely devastating. our problem in maine is energy. and the frustrating part of it is we are in between where the energy is going down to massachusetts and canada, where the gas is and we have not been

able to get the states to move off the renewable megawatt limitations that would allow the kilowatts to get into maine. we have spent millions of dollars on type lines that we can get the gas and forth. and we also have this that we have been wrestling with for over 20 years. and he recently gave half of that away due to environmental groups, no deep water port will happen there and we are fighting to keep your point open, but in order to do that we need judging and environmental laws which are getting in the way with a material that would be removed. we also have the potential of bringing an east-west highway into a port, which is very huge. all i can say is i'm glad when i'm trying to get route one into

the state of maine, to have an east-west corridor with the middle part of america were 90% of heavy industry happen in north america, it would be a godsend to the northern economy of the state of maine. the number of jobs would be -- you wouldn't even be able to estimate it. from ship handling, container repair, fuel and shocking, it just goes on and on. but we never seem to be able to get over the environmental hurdle at a federal level and we can't seem to get anything moving through the legislature and the federal government right now is a huge problem for jobs in the state of maine. it has a heavy thumbprint on everything that we do in the state of maine from agriculture to fishing to manufacturing and we need to get that lifted off and i will commit myself to doing that down in washington. these agencies are out of control.

>> moderator: bruce poliquin, same question to you. how do you grow the economy and add jobs? poliquin: thank you for asking. i'm third generation i grew up in central maine from a working-class family, my mom was a nurse. and i remember when i was in if they showed up one time, they worked hard to get a job. my grandmother made some of the finest in the world and that is now closed. my best buddy was a machinist at the scott paper company and i worked the night shift and that is now closed. and so what is going on? i have one son and he just

graduated from college and got his first job. but unfortunately it took him two years to to get that job. we work during christmas vacation on spring break and something is going on very wrong. we are so connected and what happens in washington, i think it has a huge impact on us. washington, career politicians who have never created a job before, the last five years in a row have spent on average $1.1 trillion more and they need to borrow or make up the difference or print money. and so now we have a huge national debt. this includes our ability to crowd out this and so forth and so on. when that happens it means that the taxes have to be raised.

raising taxes is the way that we pay for that out-of-control spending in those high debt levels. we also drive up the price of energy instead of driving it down. until 1000 jobs and benefits, we are coming up on the holidays are and in each case one of the key things is the cost of energy. so we need to get the spending under control. we need to start paying down our debt, a we need to lower taxes and energy prices and the regulatory environment is predictable. if we do that, we will have a flood of investment in our country and we will have more jobs for kids to be able to make it and more jobs throughout america. i'm the only candidate who has 35 years of real experience growing the economy and creating jobs. my opponents do not.

>> moderator: the question is we are headed into another winter. experts predict that we will see a spike in costs due to the natural supply line. and many homes rely on home heating oil and will face this in the hundreds of dollars. what is your energy strategy to help businesses compete and help people keep more money in the pockets? >> the energy strategy is clearly to get the federal government out of the energy policy. right now about 50% of the oil reserve is under control of federally controlled land. and there is really no provision for the federal government owning any property, let alone most of the western united states and having said that, the

wheel has come down, i believe about $80 a girl today which is good news and gas has come down approximately 20 cents and i don't know whether that trend will continue. last week and a half,, the stock market has lost over a trillion dollars in value and are certainly things that we can do that peta can get out of the way the pipeline from canada to the gulf of mexico and we have a pipeline in the air force base and we need to start using these wiser and new england, unfortunately is dependent upon oil and a lot of people have been converting to to procreate and the technology is incredible. and the problem that we have with this is we have the oldest housing spot in the country.

so we waste a lot of heat just living in these older homes. and so clearly getting the government out of the energy business is important. and right now this and whatnot has increased because of private land ownership in pennsylvania and all of the early oil fields that are privately owned, getting regional, north dakota, the federal government is just in the way. >> moderator: okay, bruce poliquin, what is your energy strategy to help businesses and residents? >> we need to make sure that whatever we do is protect our environment. when i was a kid growing up, if you fell in the river you needed a tetanus shot. we have come a long way to make sure that we clean up our environment, we are making sure that we come down that path, and to do whatever we can that we offer that protection.

i am also of the belief that quality of life includes a paycheck and we need allen's between these two competing interests. i believe that we need to make sure that we increase the production of energy here in america. natural gas here in america, there is a reason for that. to increase the supply of that and drive down the price. when you drive down the price to help to create more jobs. and also it will be less expensive for families to heat homes and to favor their electric elf and less expensive to buy gasoline. my opponent and i differ on this. we just have very different views. she believes that we should have a carbon tax. when that happens you drive up the price of gasoline to pray heating bills and the price of

electricity and we have a party scene is in the past year. many have closed due to high cost of energy. so we just have a very different opinion on that. i don't disagree with emily cain that we should complete the keystone pipeline. we have all the safeguards that we need, we should approve the pipeline to make sure that we are getting some of our energy from canada down to the gulf coast, tribe of this and drive down the price to help jobs being created. my opponent has voted almost 7% of the time in small businesses. small businesses is the backbone of our economy. so how can you vote against small businesses and want to represent them in congress. and part of this it is lowering the price of energy, not making

it a lot but we just disagree. it's nothing personal, and i think it's very important for the voters to understand the different opinions on this, my life experience professionally has been creating jobs for 35 years. my opponent has no experience creating jobs and it's not a personal attack but a fact. so we need to make sure that we focus on jobs for the second district and not increase government spending. increases energy costs and welfare and what she has done repeatedly in the legislator. and that will only hurt us here in the state of maine more. >> moderator: emily cain, what is your strategy? cain: first, let me say that it's okay to call me emily. we're going to be spending a lot of time together. it's great to be here with all of you. the energy issue for me comes down to just a few examples. the other day i was walking my

dog across the street, talking with my neighbor and her mother and her mother said that i have decided that i have to keep my house at 57 degrees this winter. all winter. because otherwise i won't be able to afford to fill the oil tank. think about that, 57 degrees for the whole winter when it's negative 10 degrees outside and the snow is blowing, or a senior citizen to be home keeping the thermostat at 57 degrees and that's not okay. that is a tragedy and i'm proud that over the last 10 years that stories like that and the people like that are going through this kind of economic challenges that are the top of my mind as we work on energy. i'm proud to support the greenhouse gas initiative that has helped many businesses and families and save them more than $250 million in energy costs. when we think about where we are going as a state when it comes to energy, i think about those i

met in northern maine community college, they want to be the guys who climb the towers and fix the windows. i asked them why they were in this business and why they would want to do that and one of them said i like to climb things are really high and i like the idea of having a job right here in the state of maine that is a good job and is also about clean renewable energy. as a that is the kind of future that we need for our state. and we need to make sure that we are taking steps and expand natural gas right now and we also need to make sure that for the long run we invest in renewable sources that will create jobs like onshore winds and solar, things will make a difference in the long run and is a member of congress my focus will be the same as it has for the last 10 years treated that is to lower the cost of energy for families and businesses.

i have a record that shows i can do that in the skills to work were crossing out make sure that it actually gets done. >> moderator: the third question goes to you, bruce poliquin. most of the provisions of the health care act have been in place for a year, so we are getting a chance to see how they work in the marketplace. would you make changes to the affordable care act, and if so, what would they be? poliquin: yes, i would, jennifer, thank you for asking the question. first of all, i'm sure some of you have thought about it. about 3300 of us will now be losing their health insurance policies because of obamacare. this is incredibly hurtful. we have a national affordable care act, obamacare, as they call it, which is putting undue pressure and strain on the business communities and

families. and one of the issues that we are seeing under obamacare is that moms and dads are responsible for taking care of their kids and making sure that they make good decisions for their kids and aging parents, they are losing their health care plans lead the 3300 announced today. these folks are losing them through the small businesses that employ them. last year roughly 10,000 individuals who buy policies on their own lost their health insurance. so it's just not fair, jennifer, when you have a large corporation that has been given waivers from the obamacare mandate. but you have small businesses and individuals who are losing their health insurance as a result of that. and when they lose their health insurance they also lose their doctor. my son is asthmatic, he was diagnosed at age three. it is critically important for everyone to make sure that he was insured by the health

insurance policy and that he had continuity with his pediatrician. and so it's just not fair that families are losing their doctors and their health insurance plans were other folks are receiving waivers. in another example of this would be making the point that i would try to make. if one of our terrific employers called, they make high-end votes, a traffic company with a backlog for their products. i was talking to one of the owners not long ago and i may not get this exactly right, but 45 or 46 employees and because of the backlog that they had come and they wanted to reach 85 employees and meet the demand of their customers and not lose their customers. in order to go from 45 to 85 employees, they would then come under the expensive mandate of obamacare. and it would be to expensive for them in and they could not get there.

so the portal characters killing jobs. for example, once you reach that threshold, you now have to apply for comply with those expensive mandates. if you work 30 hours or more per week, then you also come under the obamacare mandate. so they are not hiring employees and they are cutting back a lot of workers below 40 hours a week. my opponent was responsible for implementing obamacare in the state of maine. beyond that she believes in a complete government takeover over a health care system. much more extreme obamacare. this is not fit what is going on in the state of maine. it's not right, it's hurtful to our families and killing jobs. so we need to change the parts of obamacare that are killing jobs and keep the things that work like making sure that folks can be insured for pre-existing conditions.

what i disagree with my opponent who just has a very extreme view of a government takeover of health care, which is making healthier choices that they want to make, moms and dads for their kids. >> moderator: emily cain, would you change anything in the affordable care act, and if so, what would you change if you are elected to congress? cain: let's start with the rollout of the affordable care act, about now a year ago was a disaster and it caused a lot of frustration and a lot of people who were infuriated around the state. and that is what it comes down to is a complicated system. and it requires people that understand how to fix those kinds of problems. what has congress been doing for the past two years to try to fix that? they have been voting over and over again. it is not really a solution.

it requires leaders willing to dig into those challenges and i will give you an example where i have done that. two years ago i learned that under the health insurance laws in our state you could not be covered for your cancer treatment if you required chemotherapy in the form of a pill rather than intravenously. this is costing families thousands of dollars a month and every time the bill had come forward it was too hard to get through. i spent two years working on that bill and working with the families and the patience and the insurance companies to move it through the legislature. it took time and we could've given him, but that's not leadership to ignore those kinds of problems. after two years of work we passed the bill unanimously in the committee and this year on august 1, families that have been paying thousands of dollars, there's a woman i met and her sister, she was paying $900 per month for the past 10 years to get her life-saving

cancer treatment. on august 1 the cost is $45,000 for it the same month. and so that is life-changing, that is life-saving. when it comes to the affordable care act we absolutely have to go back to it and say, it is truly not working for small businesses the way that it should were large businesses the way it should and we are afraid that the rates are going to book for individuals. to fix those problems we have to have experience getting those policies and working class we aisle to find a solution that has been my experience. >> moderator: blaine richardson, what changes would you make if you would make any? richardson: i would. i would repeal it. as you heard from bruce poliquin, the devil is in the details and 2000 pages that they told us you need to pass it to know what is in it.

the policies that are being written now have five to $6000 deductibles to do math. people are not going to use these insurance policies. it's an absolute problem. and it needs to be simple. if it was a good program, it would've gone off well, we wouldn't have had the computer problems, and they still have the computer problems. unfortunately it's not on the radar screen anymore because of ebola and all of these other world issues that are occurring, but this is a serious problem that is owing to take down our economy and make no mistake, there is a real solution here and it is private, medical health care to insurance companies, the receiver, the provider, government out of the insurance business, get the federal government out of the insurance business, and tort reform and emily cain form as

well. everyone has their fingers in health care and you look at the insurance company. you have billions of dollars in real estate which doesn't fix an asthmatic child. the whole thing blew up and is out of control. there is no way that we want to go to a federal system. we can already be that they can't handle ebola, they can't run the irs, they can keep the nsa under control. the federal government is not the answer and i don't want them in charge of my health care. >> moderator: that concludes the first section of our debate and we will take a quick rate can be right back. >> moderator: welcome back to the 2142nd congressional district debate. this next segment features your questions submitted from members of the public and we want to thank everyone who submitted questions. and we are going to start with emily cain.

the first question indicate that i'm a medical professional and i'm concerned about ebola. i don't think we are ready to handle this disease. what should the government be doing to prevent the spread and why haven't the resources been used to develop a vaccine? cain: thank you, jennifer. this crisis is scary. it's frightening. i'm worried about my friends and family who may be traveling around the country. and it's very clear that the obama administration has not done enough. i saw some of the hearings of the cdc director this morning and it's very clear that they are not ready and that we are behind the ball when it comes to making sure that we are ready to not only do the things that we need but also the people who are affected get the treatment that they need. i suggest closing on flights from countries that are dealing

with this disease in crisis, we need to make sure we stop the spread of ebola and we also need to make sure that we stop it now before it spreads and gets worse. it's very scary and we are keeping a very close eye on it. >> moderator: blaine richardson, what should the government be doing to prevent the spread of this and why haven't resources been used to help a vaccine? richardson: clearly there is no leadership in the country which should concern every citizen. it's a deadly virus, it doesn't care what race you are, it is 70 to 90% fatal and the federal government in the hospital and medical system has resisted having a strategy for this virus. interestingly enough osha wanted to push protocol for infectious diseases like this, and there was a lot of pushback from the hospital association and i saw

that on fox news today. i find that a little bit alarming. and if nothing else a little bit elitist area it concerns me greatly. my mother had polio and choose one of two kids in nashua that had it and survived. and so the solution is not going to clearly come from the federal government. they have no protocol, the story keeps changing. >> moderator: thank you. bruce poliquin, what should the government be doing to prevent the spread of that's? >> this is a serious matter and i agree with my opponent. you know, this is a deadly disease and its highly infectious. the administration has completely dropped the ball. my judgment is a lot more mature at age 60 then my '30s. we have some very serious issues that we are facing in this country and when it comes to this disease i believe that we must absolutely stop travel from

west africa where these individuals are coming from, we have to do everything to help them care this. and also we need to secure the borders. this becomes not only a national security issue, but also a security issue. this is an example where she believes in amnesty for students that are here illegally, i do not. we need to control the borders to make sure we understand this and we just disagree on that. i don't think that we should give in to the folks. >> moderator: emily cain, a response to that. cain: what you got was a typical political response from a personal attack, just like we see in washington dc right now. i do not support amnesty and i've never supported amnesty. i do support the opportunity for kids that are not rockier --

were brought here, excuse me, by their parents and not their own choice, that they have the opportunity to take steps for service and get an education and have the american dream. >> moderator: okay. cain: it should not evolve in the personal attacks. >> moderator: a personal question, from jane in farmington. she says i'm 91 years old and i don't know what i would do without the dirty. and i don't hear the candidates talking about the way they would work to protect this program that helps minds of americans just like me. how we protect social security for future generations. richardson: in washington, rest assured, we will find a way to fund social security for all those who have paid into it. i want to be very clear that if it's it does not an entitlement for those individuals that paid into it, something that they invested in and they have every expectation to have that promise met by the federal government. having said that, younger generations we need to find a

strategy for them. i don't trust the federal government. clearly they took the money of the social security lockbox and i have no reason to believe that in the future they will put the money back in her. we need to develop a strategy and an investment strategy that allows the individual to make a savings account or a portfolio that will allow them to have control over instead of the federal government. clearly congress has demonstrated that they are not responsible with the citizens money and i can promise her -- >> moderator: thank you. what would you tell jane about her social security? poliquin: when i am in congress, we will have someone who understands this issue very well and will protect the security and medicare benefits. my mother is 86 years old, two

years ago she fell and broke her shoulder and she relied on medicare to help her out a couple of years ago and she also relied on social security. we made a promise to our seniors who paid into the system and we need to make sure that there are no changes in medicare or social security benefits. when i am in congress, i will protect us. however, we need to have a very serious adult discussion. my son is 24. we need to make sure that we save those two programs and where are those benefits down the road? we have to make sure we do this. my opponent supports obamacare. obamacare has cut $716 billion from medicare to help to fund their programs. so how are we going to trust

them? >> moderator: emily cain, what are you going to say to jane about her social security? >> everyone deserves to retire in our state, and that is to strengthen and protect social security and medicare. when it comes to social security, one of the best ways we can strengthen is by growing the economy. if we were raised in a wage, i'm the only candidate that supports that, we will support billions of dollars in to the social security system. if we achieve equal pay for equal work, when women are earning only 78 cents on the dollar, we can cut down a shortfall of social security by one third. when it comes to medicare we need to do, since things like i have done in the state legislator. we save medicaid more than $4 million a year by allowing generic drugs to be used. we would be allowed to negotiate prescription drug prices and be

able to save billions and those are the kind of commonsense approaches and i have the experience to get it done. >> moderator: the third question comes from ron. he writes that the united states trade representative is currently negotiating trade agreements with a large group of pacific rim nations as well as the european union. these agreements are being negotiated in secret but some has been released, would you support the investment provision in these agreements that would allow foreign corporations to sue national, state, or local governments for this creating so-called barriers for trade and certainly the laws are by american individuals. richardson: i don't know the details what the gentleman is asking, but i will tell you that in my opinion, having spent 35 years growing the economy and creating jobs, it is incredibly important that we have free

trade. because when you have no workers in the state of maine trying to sell their products overseas, we need to make sure that the markets are open to them. however, we also need to make sure that we are competing on a level playing field. that means making sure that our companies can compete and our workers can compete. let me give you an example. one of our traffic companies process frozen berries. and they open a new plan a short time ago but it's not a washington county. and the reason for that is because the tax rate is 31% in canada but it would be 51% in maine. about 20% difference that does not create a level playing field, we need a level playing field and regulations and taxes and trade to make sure that we can compete with the rest of the world. >> moderator: which would you like me to repeat the question?

cain: no, that's fine. we need fair trade to protect american jobs. and allows us to compete on a level playing field. the reality of the free trade that tremont supports means that we have exported jobs and imported unemployment checks. i'm tired of it, it's not okay. negotiating these trade deals and secret making sure they are not in the best interest of the american economy. we need to make sure there's more transparency in the process when it comes to the freedom of states to pass laws and i personally have stood up in particular as someone who wants to get the toxic chemicals out of kids toys and those that we can't even see or taste out of our water and environment, harming the health of children and families. we need to put a stop at the state level and the only way to do it is to bring transparency and stop the exporting of

american jobs and labor and environmental standards. >> moderator: blaine richardson, which are likely to repeat the question? richardson: no, i'm insensitive thing done in secret, and that foreign entities would be given any preference under our constitution. clearly both parties republican and democrat parties, they own nafta and the other trade agreements that we have and when you look around the countryside, that is where the jobs went. the free trade agreement didn't work in our favor and to kill the main companies. the shoe companies left, the woolen mills laughed, and free trade has never worked in our favor. so at the end of the day, those making these agreements are the only ones that will benefit. the main work for the american

worker cannot tolerate amnesty and 14 million people coming in while we have foreign entities that are taking our jobs away. i just can't stand it. the second district is dying as a result of this and free trade. >> moderator: this is another section of the debate when you can ask each other a question from each of you will be able to ask a question of either of your opponents and you will have 22nd two asked the question so please keep it brief. and there will be chance for a short rebuttal. cain: bruce, it is well known and documented that you own 10 acres of oceanfront property worth almost $2 million off the coast of maine and it's been called one of the most valuable pieces of property in our state. in 2010 just for you became in your possession, position, use

the tax loophole to pay only $21,000 on that oceanfront property. how do you explain that to the working men and women who right now are getting their property tax bills and are not sure how they are going to afford to pay them. >> thank you for the question, i appreciate it. my opponent is airing false allegations about my record when it comes to taxes. i'm in the real estate business, i've been in the real estate business longer than she has been in the state of maine. i have real estate property throughout the state and i have always paid off my taxes in full, always. paid thousands of dollars in taxes and she knows it. but what happens in these political campaigns is unfortunate is that i am trying to make contact between her record and what she does in washington. she levels personal attacks and

that is what happens when you get career politicians, they don't let you defend a record and so i think that it is disingenuous and i think that she should take the tax down because they are false. >> moderator: your rebuttal? cain: if you want to compare attack ads, just look online and you can go on a tv may be airing on another channel right now and be a part of this. i am someone that has lowered energy costs to make sure that we have health care that is more affordable for our businesses. those are the facts, and i'm proud to have served the people of the state for the last 10 years. >> i want to make it clear to emily and her agents that i have always paid my taxes all the

time. and what you just heard, i hope everyone in the second district understands that she's taking credit for reducing taxes. one of the things that she says is that during the governors first-run in 2011 and she negotiated the largest tax cut in state history and that is completely false. she negotiated against those tax cuts that were included in the budget. and then she didn't have the vote and she came out publicly and said that i hate those tax cuts. so it included, by the way, those removed completely and she negotiated against them and she's now trying to take credit for them because she's running for congress. the people of the state of maine are tired of this band. they want honest people and i think that you should tell them about this.

>> the difference is that i was there, i was at the state house late at night working on that budget. and there was a difficult budget and i'm proud to have protected health care from people for my budget. at the same time i lowered taxes for the middle class families and the truth is that i was there. >> moderator: is your chance to ask your opponent questions. >> i'm just curious. i last 15 years in the state, i have built 11 custom homes and for sure sign a lot of paychecks on the front and actually created a lot of carpenter jobs, roofing jobs, foundation jobs, i'm just curious when you always talk about how many jobs you created. how many jobs have you created?

>> in the private sector of the growing economy, one software company that iran had 43 employees and one pension investment companies had business that had about a dozen employees and so on. and we recognize that the most important issue in this district and it has the record in the state and elsewhere and we need to make sure that we are so tied and we need folks that are not career politicians and they need to learn how to negotiate and get the best deal that they can and then solve the problem and move on. but other people bicker and point fingers when they don't like to talk about the record. we had enough of that in washington and that is why i want to go to washington to help

to fix the mass and not become part of it. >> would you like to offer a rebuttal? poliquin: i find it curious, you call emily a politician and i'm not sure what you want to refer to me as, but you are certainly wall street insider and it said a national bailout and tarp and it came back from. >> moderator: thank you. we need to move along here. >> i would like to answer that question and i thank you. first of all, you can see that my opponent is attacking hard work. i scrubbed toilets and doug suhr lines and painted metal roofs to get through college.

after college i started my 35 years in business and i'm very proud of my hard work. and i was not in new york when the meltdown was there. in fact, i used my experience in new york to help address some of the most difficult problems that the state has ever had. so i reject that is completely false. and emily you have a record of cutting taxes and on the 100 and two items, it was so bad that

the next year in 2010, the people of the state of maine repeal those taxes and how can you say that the tax cuts that you push through in 2009 had to be repealed by the people. how can you say that you cut that when that's not true? >> it's interesting, the attacks that he is throwing my way about taxes concerning my record, they simply ignore the facts. in 2011 on not only work with the governor on issues like this that i worked with republicans in the legislature to lower the tax burden and lower the income tax for small businesses. and as someone who has spent 10 years doing this work, i will take this moment to address this

as a career politician. other states don't have them. but here in the state of maine from our entire state are built on people that show up to do public service and for me my record is clear, i have negotiated and voted and balanced 24 bipartisan individuals. >> they have never been creating a job, trying to reinvent this and they had no republican support, she didn't answer the question, she held to push this on separate items and the people

of maine had to repeal it. this last year and 2013. >> moderator: we're on to yes or no questions. do you agree with a woman's right to choose as outlined?? >> roe versus wade is the law of the land. the life begins at conception is the policy. >> this is the law of the land, i raise my son from the time that he was born. and i'm proud to make sure that i believe in life and i do. >> moderator: family? cain: i'm a pro-choice catholic and i believe that all women should be able to make their own decisions. >> moderator: what about roads and bridges and making improvements? we need yester know answers.

support raising taxes to support infrastructure improvements? cain: it's not the right approach. >> moderator: should surveillance drones be allowed to be used? cain: not without a warrant. poliquin: no. richardson: no. >> moderator: what about temperature changes? poliquin: man-made activity is a part of this, and we need a balanced approach. cain: it is real. we further reduced the number of military bases. >> we have to look at all spending at the federal level. >> it needs to be studied. >> moderator: would you support oil from canada for experts? >> no, we need to focus on renewable energy.

>> this is a state and local issue, not a federal issue and we need to make sure that we increase production. >> moderator: wayne richardson, do you support the u.s. position to do air strikes against isis? richardson: yes. poliquin: we need to do more than that. cain: yes, i do. >> moderator: and do you support it this? poliquin: yes. cain: yes. cain: yes. >> moderator: moving on to closing statements, each candidate will have one minute to speak directly to the audience. we have determined that he order to the debate and bruce poliquin will go first. poliquin: thank you very much. this country is on the wrong path and everybody knows it. we have to many politicians in washington who have never created a job. like my opponent, they

wastefully spend tax dollars and they drive up debt like the 500 million-dollar hospital bed and they spend welfare instead of saving it for those that truly needed and taxes have to pay for it. and to make matters worse they bicker and drive up the cost of energy. so cost more for your electric bill and would put gas in the tank and heater holmes. emily cain promotes the same liberal policies as nancy pelosi, she's much too extreme for maine. i look forward to serving in congress. i will take my business experience creating jobs in growing the economy to try to fix the mess in washington and i will work with republicans, democrats, independents, anyone to make sure that we get it right. on november the fourth i ask you to go to the poll. >> moderator: it's your turn for

closing statement. richardson: i will uphold every aspect of the constitution and work with any party to create opportunities and bring jobs to the second district. i will not compromise on our national security and i will answer all threats to this country. i will not compromise your gun rights, i will not squander your tax dollars and in washington dc i will old the value that defines independent people that believe in hard work and honest they know what it means to live within a budget. as you can see, there are differences between me and the other candidates tonight. emily cain is a young leader and brings envisioned to the table. that you can bet that youth and ambition does not trump a lifetime of wisdom and prudence and for brutes always see our tax and his willingness to put civility aside for the sake of getting elected. those are certainly not for

those of the second best record i believe that those communities need to be represented in congress that will not put wall street first or special interest groups for someone not put a political party first. cain: for the past 10 years i have been a strong voice for middle class and values in our state legislature. many people get up everyday and do the hard work and make the tough choices to support their families and their small businesses and their communities. and as you have heard tonight, there are clear differences in this race. i bring optimism and mean values and a proven track record over the last 10 years of working across the aisle with republicans and democrats and independents to face our state's toughest challenges area to get the job done. i've done that to lower energy costs and to lower taxes and to make sure that we are protecting our seniors so they can retire with dignity in our state. the other choice in this race is

someone who time and again is known for bending the rules and we've had enough of that in washington. the problems facing us today require leaders who know how to work across the aisle to bring maine valleys to the table and to stay there and get the job done. i am proud to ask for your vote on november 4. think you. >> moderator: thank you to all of the candidates are taking part for the broadcast times are more information, go to our website. thank you for joining us. ♪

>> the showdown, the incumbent carol shea-porter, and her republican challenger, trento. the two are facing off for the third straight election. the debate starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> moderator: that evening, welcome to the second of four nights of crucial debates in the gubernatorial congressional election. tonight, the first congressional district. let's introduce our candidates. tran-ones grew up in new hampshire and she was a community activist and teacher before being elected in 2006.

she lives in rochester and is 61 years old. frank guinta works in the interest business started his consulting firm before being elected mayor of the largest city. he's 41 years old and lives in manchester. and there's a history between these two candidates. here we are two years later with what many are calling the three peat. each candidate will get one minute to ask questions of their opponent will be allowed three seconds of rebuttal time. joining me now, host of the exchange on new hampshire public radio and the executive editor. before we start him i would like to thank our partners in tonight's debate. the telegraph of nashua, at the unh school of law.

let us begin. there are some 4700 civilian employees were guarded as the largest groups of employees. what more needs to be done is that they are not on the chopping block in the future? congresswoman, let's start with you. >> thank you, i'm delighted to be here. what needs to be done, we have already done. we have invested heavily to make sure that the shipyard has the funding that they needed and we have also had a lot of funding for the shipyard just recently in our bill, my committee put in that there would be no closure to the shipyard. when i go there, i'm always delighted to see those individuals harder work. speak your thank you very much for the question.

this is not just a shipbuilding location here in the state of new hampshire, one of four in the country, but also an economic engine for the state of new hampshire and it's something that i will continue to protect and ensure that i would always oppose. we have the best and finest men and women that are working the core building under budget and within the time limits given by the federal government they deserve the support not just from the state of new hampshire but from the state of maine and massachusetts as well and the we will continue to work with those regional delegations to ensure that that number takes away the opportunity that we have here with our shipyard. >> moderator: for the next question, let's go to laura. >> moderator: both of you have run for this office several

times before, by 2016, one of you will have held office for the past decade. voters are getting a little tired of having the same candidates year after year if you are elected to this office, what new ideas or new approach will you bring to it. >> let's begin with you. >> you for the question. i have learned through the years with my service to the state of new hampshire and the most important thing i can do is listen to the state of new hampshire and making sure that there is a bipartisan approach we can get a country moving again, i've been able to do that whether as mayor working with a majority of democrats were when i served in congress, getting bills signed into law by this president. i think that people of our state

want to see economic growth that they have been desperately needing over the past six years and offering that energy and bipartisan approach to make sure that i always work on behalf of the people of our state. >> i'm going to continue to work on jobs. we still have a lot of people who can't find work and i think that growing this economy is going to be my focus. ..

i am on the armed services committee and planned to continue working to make sure that this country is safe and we take care of our military men and women and veterans pay for a response? guinta: yes. she always references the sequester. i remind the audience that it was the president and the leader of the senate he required and demanded the sequestered to be included in the budget agreement, otherwise the budget would have been shut down. if you hear congresswoman carol shea-porter speak on this issue, she would have voted to shut down the government rather than try to work with the senate and president. no one likes a sequester. it is a difficult position. we got through that process. i voted three times to find reductions in spending throughout the federal government to replace the sequestered. unfona