>> in your book the legacy you have created and it was a longtime fight for them to have an offshore oil drilling in the california pacific coast and i want to thank you for that. >> it's one of the fights i talked about is the fight to protect the coastline. just very quickly, it happened during the reagan administration. the secretary was the head of the interior department and decided to put up the whole post for sale to the highest bidder. i remember saying what are you doing. i understand you have to sell

some of these areas for oil drilling but what about these national treasures, you want to protect them for the future and he said let's make the process work. so that is when we were able to put the legislation together that stopped the process from moving forward and ultimately decide it ultimately but i didn't introduce the legislation to create the national marine sanctuary that protects the area for the future. [applause] >> thank you so much for being here. i am curious about the response and i wondering how do you strike the balance between that which appears effective in delaying the background for the sustainable. >> that is a very good question and the reality is when you are

implementing the defense strategy it has to contain a short-term and long-term element. the short term element if we aren't using isis as an example you have to stop the momentum. that is pushed out of g. you have to stop them. so, the air attacks, whatever it takes you to basically stop the momentum that's going on. at the same time, you have to be thinking about the long-term strategy. what are the long-term objectives. and part of the problem that i think everybody recognizes is that in iraq i can see the object is and we can put the military together and we can get them in the right place and we have a ground force that can move against isis and regain the territory that's been lost and back it up with airstrikes and help our people on the ground.

i can see the objectives and i can see the clear path to push them back. we are going to try to develop an opposition force that's going to take time but we don't even know if there is an opposition force that we can make work so that's going to take time. in the meantime what do you do confronting isis you need to have the targets and be hell to held to stop them from doing some of the things that they are doing some serious is going to be tougher to try to think out. but if you are going to conduct a war against isis you have to think that think about the short-term to make sure that you are putting them on their heels, but you also have to think about the long-term objective in terms of ultimately defeating them and that will take a longer time.

sir? >> following on the question but looking beyond that as we moved into the new era i just wonder what you think about why and what is the goal for the counterterrorism strategy. >> good question. >> i consider all of what we are doing now as part of a larger continuum that goes back. we all have short-term memories in the country. i had a chance to visit the memorial of new york city and it is a punch in the stomach to walk through that manorial and see what happened on that day. it's tough to bring them back but the fact is that we were attacked and they killed 3,000

people as a result we went to war because they were an enemy and we didn't want them to attack us again. frankly we did a good job at going after them using counterterrorism capabilities. we did undermine the strength of their leadership but now we have this metastasis to that's taking place with al-shabaab and other elements in terrorism. i think we need a comprehensive strategy to deal with terrorism. part of it is using that to target leadership to go after them to undermine their ability to ever be able to attack the country. part of it has to be cultural, educational and dealing with how do we prevent young people from

choosing al qaeda that is a tougher strategy but it has to be part of how we address the threat of terrorism. we can't can just do this on the military side. we have to do this on the side of how do we improve the opportunities for the future of the education, the ability to enjoy the opportunities life has to offer and to do that we have to work with other countries to get that across. saudi arabia is doing some of that and i think we have to incorporate this kind of strategies as a part of the effort to address the war on terrorism. >> i'm a student in public policy. thank you very much for staging the public service. what do you think about the

united states comparing to the united nations in the international peace and security. thank you. >> good question again. all of us would love to have the united nations and that could work effectively to deal with the crisis in the world and i think that was designed of franklin roosevelt and harry truman in establishing the united nations that this would be the primary vehicle to leave you with the crisis and deal with the challenges in the world. unfortunately, the united nations has fought down particularly in the security council and its ability to respond to the crisis. and so, almost anytime a crisis breaks out you would like the un to respond and that is probably the best way to try to get the countries together to do it,

then immediately it hits the wall in the security council and nothing else happens. so ultimately it continues to fall back on the shoulders of the united states to respond in as the president himself said when people get in trouble they don't call russia and china they call the united states and as we have seen of the united states isn't providing the leadership, nobody else will. i wish that were not the case. we would love to see nato and europe and countries coming to say let's get together to respond to these crisis but it's the united states that drives the process and about has to be the role of the president and the role of this country. we have the value system to ensure that we are the leaders in the world that is facing a number of dangerous threats. >> we are running out of time. you can take two more questions and then you will have a final question.

>> it is an honor to speak with you tonight. my question touching on something that you spoke on earlier what advice would you give a young person today looking to start a career in public service? will >> the best advice is to jump in and get involved. we take the polls with the young people at the panetta institute, and they are discouraging because young people are turned off by the dysfunction in the town and public servants aren't doing what they are supposed to do there just fighting each other and not getting things done. so, the inspiration i had to get into public service is not just my parents were the army, but a president who said ask not what your country can do but what you can do for your country and i

look at the public service as a higher calling and now that it's tougher. so my recommendation is for those of you that are interested , see what it's like in to become and become a legislative assistant on capitol hill. get involved somewhere in the public policy section. learn from that and don't get caught up in the politics of left and right and the democrat and republican. learn it, stand back and evaluate what is it you can do in order to make a difference. the most important thing you need to know is you can make a difference. i felt i could make a difference and i can tell you if young people get interested in the government, they can make one hell of a difference. i want -- frankly i would like the stalemate in this town to

change from the top down. i would love if the leadership of the congress decided to start working together. i don't know if that will happen but i do know one thing. if that doesn't happen it will change from the bottom up and voters will say okay. we need to have people who are going to be willing to engage. and you know what, people your age was me tell you something. why am i hopeful cracks because i see men and women in the military and in military into u-uniform put their lives on the line to fight and die for this country and if they are willing to fight and die for this country than i think that there should be leaders willing to take a little bit of that risk in order to govern this country. >> perfect question. [applause] will >> the speaker tonight is the former student body president. >> my name is mckenzie and i'm a

senior at the university of maryland and i study international relations and politics. a lot of pressure on this final question but i've always been interested in the relationship in the department of state and the department of defense. could you speak a little bit more about when you went head to head and one time when you had to work together to push something through that wouldn't work unless you collaborated with? >> each department has its own dear -- bureaucracy and they operate in their own way. and when you are dealing with the critical issue like afghanistan or isis were other things, it is really important they worked together at the diplomatic arm of the government working with the defensive arm

of the government to be able to work together to get things accomplished. frankly a big part of that is the personalities that are involved. and i just have to tell you, you know, that the secretary clinton and i because of our history of working together, you know, we were able to work together because i said to my staff work with their office to get this done. so they would, we would set up conferences and go to conferences. we went to the un together to meet with the defense officials in the different countries to try to develop their security capabilities, she was at the table and i was at the table, we went to australia working to try to develop and improve the alliance with the australians. we did things together in europe and get things together elsewhere and having the partnership was very important to our ability to deliver

because it wasn't like we were competing against each other. too often there is a lot of competition gets the credit for who's trying to get it done and so there is a tendency not to work together but by the way don't forget that in washington you can pass the ball and build the rockers easy and new departments. it doesn't mean nothing unless you get good people running those departments and running those agencies. in the end, that is what determines whether it works or fails. a political question. >> tuv me there should be another president clinton? [laughter] >> there should be somebody that runs for the presidency that has great experience and dedication to this country and if it

happens to be clinton that is okay with me. if hillary clinton ran for president would you support her? >> sure. in the preserver of 2008 after the last campaign that headline was that they had no plan. as to divert the money they brought him it should have done a much better job. how will it be different this time? who >> i think it is a huge challenge. there's so much money there is so much money in politics that it scares you in terms of this kind of hoping warfare you see playing out on television between the various pacs that are associated with it and, you know, i understand the game. you have to raise money in order to compete against money. and i'm sure clinton does it better than anybody in terms of being able to raise money and that's okay. but i really do think that you have to broaden that effort so

that ordinary citizens are contributing to the national campaign rather than just relying on the big pacs to provide that money. too much of the fund raising is done in new york, chicago, silicon valley, la and not enough of the fund raising is done with the american people themselves. >> why do you think that she should be president? [laughter] >> she is somebody that i've seen that is dedicated to the country and she's smart and experienced and tough. what the hell else do you want to? [applause] >> on a late note, you are a foodie always known for having the best christmas parties.

where do you like to eat when you are in washington >> there is no place in washington that compares to the food i get at home. [laughter] i make my own and [inaudible] my mother taught me have to make it and i have yet to go to a restaurant that makes it as good as i do. [laughter] >> secretary it's time to sign some books. thank you for watching and to our friends at politico and thank all of you for being here in person and politics and prose for pulling this together and for this amazing setting. and thank you secretary leon

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and member of the innocence project of texas now talks about james woodward who was wrongfully convicted and imprisoned for 27 years for a 1983 can't murder in dallas. she spoke about the case exonerated at the dallas institute. >> we are here to get to know one another and also to celebrate the publication of a very special book by joyce king, exonerated. many of you have already read that and so you know what's in

it. some of you have lived through something similar to that so you know about the life that is depicted. we are very honored to have choice. she's a long-term friend of mine and of the dallas institute. i'm going to introduce her and then turn it over to her. i will reappear later when she and i take our seats here to interview a kind of conversation. so, for those of you that don't know joyce king i want to introduce her. she's a native texan who's traveled the world over with a message of justice, hope and healing. she is an award-winning veteran broadcast journalist and a news anchor and reporter for cbs radio until she stepped down to write her very first book page crime story of the dragging in jasper texas. i think all of us here probably remember that even if we hadn't read the book. and it is a powerful book and

beat. it was published in 2002 and was critically acclaimed into received widespread acclaim and attention from good morning texas to "the oprah winfrey show" and she's also written a memoir of growing up southern white man i met along the way is the subtitle of that one. [laughter] and her freelance articles appeared in numerous the numerous newspapers and journals in the u.s. and present you may have read her work in the dallas morning news and usa today where she appears in other publications. she is an honors department lecturer and william s. maurice lecturer and served as one of the original hosts for npr, affiliated radio show featuring best-selling authors