she talked about how the dehumanizing action sort of stock she. she uses all these big words. these are people who choose this life, but i think in the process of reading these profiles you can maybe get a better appreciation for the sacrifices that public people make, but also the expectations we impose on them. not necessarily -- from modern media life. >> we been talking with mark

liberman, "citizens of the green room." >> journalist ted rall talks about his two trips to afghanistan as an unembedded journalist first and 2001 and again in 2011. this is a little under one hour. >> thank u. all for coming. really appreciate it. it's good also to be in the cooler of the rooms here at kramerbooks. i was little scared when i first walked in. i thought i survived afghanistan only to die at kramerbooks. it's great to be here and great to see you guys here. it's nice to see people are interested in the subject because back in 2001 this seems to be, when invading afghanistan seemed to be the are missing to do in the approval rating was in the '9