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to eleanor and franklin but the trajectory from his first to his election as president but then tonight everything gets dark you everything is happening with all the dynamics to tighten the noose is dramatic each night but it is important to understand it a dd unstable little boy at one point somebody says you must remember the president is six. meeting six years old it is that type of energy thank you for that. >> host: arkansas is on the line for republican. good morning. >> caller: for you to know where i am coming from my will be 80 years old next month so i can remember the

roosevelt administration into a certain extent and of course, my parents talking about it and reading the newspapers and i am concerned about the tone and the their rations of the program. it seems to me you could have been a little less may be the bias comes out strong and another thing it seems when i was watching it it seemed teddy roosevelt was in montana? forty-two were three years come to find out he wasn't there that long. he came back and married his old girlfriend. it is thrown over like it is o.k. you like it would be scandalous.

just like incest it is keeping the money in the roosevelt family. >> host: let them respond. >> guest: if you stay with that i thank you bring up good points but first of all, is not a hero worship we are very critical of all three people we have done more than anybody else to expose their flaws but also to a knowledge of the wound path but the law permits you cannot bury your first cousin in those states but it doesn't say a fifth cousin and basically i am a fourth cousin of abraham lincoln so that is about as remote as you could be but actually we are very clear he's been a specific amount of time in the west and often on and it is quite scandalous when he does go

back to marry within a couple of years of the death of his wife and then of course, "the new york times" notice that there is not printed a retraction so i think if you stay with it the tone is critical at times and also celebratory when it deserves that so it is a very even in peace. >> i felt that was the exemplary answer. >> thank you for getting up with the. >> it looks like theodore roosevelt was hyperactive was this due to possibly oxygen shortage due to his asthma or was there any signs of meningitis are known as the child? >> i don't think so i think

that he was many things and one was a depressive and in order to keep the darkness from descending upon him he was almost obsessively active and he could not bear not to do things. >> so you know, that there is an amazing phrase where we sit behind a writer for the pace is fast enough you can not run your demons so because that branch was so susceptible to the alcoholism and mental illness that he had the physical limitations to get going so that temperature show us says in all of

photographs is this is clenched that is the way he went to life how much we are the beneficiaries and have to be very clear of that kind of behavior in a human being. >> host: chapter one is called debt action about teddy roosevelt 18531901 there he is with the finger pointing forward. >> always. >> if you hear as a child you are not expected to live out of childhood and the story is called gatt action you can realize that tension his life is under why i think he burned out so quickly. he looks 85 bit is stunning and by the time he was 50 years old he was an old man said after the venture

through the amazon the president is suffering from malaria and aggravated the old lake won't he always carried morphine on trips so he would not be a burden to the expedition and they say what? and ex-president out of the office barely four years and he's about to take a lethal dose? he said if i die than my son will have to carry my body out so maybe i will live. he is cecily certain of will be forgiven in 2015 or 2020. >> host: michigander on the republican in line. >> caller: good morning. is there any future plans

for henry ford? >> i am a michigan boy is great to hear your calling from michigan to the bitter not we plan at 10 years out we know will be doing between now the rest of the decade history of cancer cancer, jackie robinson, a history of vietnam's war, a history of country music, a biography of ernest hemingway but believe it or not in the twenties we want to talk about american innovation and technology and of course, you would have to include the 19th century so we are thinking about it. so we would not run out of topics but that is a very good one. >> talk about the voices. >> i felt since the beginning of my professional life that other person

narrator is somebody that tells you what you should know and that is called homework is to relate to break the films up with the first-person voice is that read the reports and diaries and journals and telegrams we had an immediate -- amazing supporting cast for the roosevelts we had ed harris but we also had meryl streep and i just want to say i really think she is going someplace. [laughter] she is fantastic. >> good morning.

in the series with the proposed takeover could they the the of army of the potomac could you comment on this briefly? >> it did not come to anything it was fascinating to make as fascinating film. it did not fit into this one. >> host: talk about the highlights. >> and butler was a fascinating fellow. i am not an expert but but there was a fascinating character as a hero of the american occupation of haiti to turned against all of that as a fascinating man.

>> up next from reagan to in florida. >> caller: but especially in 1909 he was middle-class for the poor people was for most of the of working people. >> you nailed it. that is exactly the story of the roosevelts. what is remarkable to us all

people that are born to privilege to decide they will dedicate their lives to even the playing field that this government does not work unless it works for everybody. and passed to work with everyone to have a viable middle-class decades of strong economy also to lift those people out of poverty. if you look at the range of the 20th century and in essence save the republic from itself at critical times. rich and poor alike it is not class warfare but everybody should have the same opportunities.

and she is hugely influential and understands all issues of poverty and race and able to act to her husband one reason we are drawn to the story to articulate a universal truth that with all men created equal, the work of the united states always tries to make sure that applies to every but a. when jefferson meant only white men of property but we don't mean that any more. one reason is theodore franklin and eleanor roosevelt. >> host: what was it with their upbringing that wanted them to do that? with their socio-economic

status? >> roosevelt's father really believed their comfort demanded of them to help the less fortunate. and in their time it was more patronizing and basically saw as their duty theodore roosevelt put that is the basis from where they worked and then to look at that to blame the problems

within each one of us and they will not actually be your servant. >> i would like to follow up on something. you made a comment if fox news was around back then they would laugh at franklin for having polio i thought that was an awful comment that is why i did not watch the documentary because i felt that was biased. >> i have to say i am particularly interested to hear from you. . .

>> online from republicans. good morning. >> good morning to you all. from what i have read and heard, president franklin

roosevelt, his policies, instead of cutting short the depression prolonged the depression. i don't know everything about it, and i would like for you to expand on that in regard to what policies he put forth prolonged the depression. my second thing is, is, why did he give away a lot of territory at the end of world war ii to the soviet union. >> phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal questions. let me just try to take the first one and i will let jeff handle the other. these are central questions, and part of the mythology and disinformation about franklin roosevelt. you can argue and debate about the correct role of government and how much or

little government you want to have, but it is fair that without the bold and decisive action that franklin roosevelt took in the early days of the depression we might not have a united states of america. he was able to use the moral persuasion of his office to help people put there money back in banks and save the banking system. he instituted a number of programs that not only helped begin to pull americans out of the depression, but when he himself who was a fiscal conservative attempted after his extraordinary mandate and 36 to balance the budget and/the stimulus program the united states went back into a very serious recession. it is also true, and you are absolutely right that it was not until world war ii that the engine, arsenal, democracy was the final stimulus program that brought us out of the united -- out of the depression and

into the war, but so redesigned the american economy that by september 21945 when the japanese were surrendering, more than 50 percent of all of the manufacturing in the entire world took place in the united states, largely because franklin roosevelt having worked through the depression to lift up ordinary people turned around and make sure the great industrialists made enormous profits and the whole of the economy grew. you can say that world war ii was one on the backs of american technological expertise and productivity. >> let me just add to that, eleanor roosevelt once said the whole.of the new deal was to see capitalism. the charge that he somehow allowed the russians to take over eastern europe was based solely on a misunderstanding.

when the conference at which things were divided, the russians already occupied most of eastern europe, and we have been fighting work for a long time and certainly were not going to turn around and attack our allies. >> the biggest army on earth >> exactly. so roosevelt knew that he had done the best that he could, and his hope was that he could work things out after the war, and then he died. died. he may have been naïve about that hope, but eastern european did not fall because of anything franklin roosevelt did. >>host: did eleanor enjoy being the first lady? how was their marriage. by the public?

>>guest: she enjoyed some. when she initially got to the white house she was not happy. afraid she would be imprisoned and to be a sort of endlessly serving tease. but she soon realized that there was a power in that official position that she could use, and she was a relentless advocate of important causes of all kinds from civil rights to women's rights to economic help for the poor, refugees, and so on, a sort of -- she was her husband's liberal conscience, and she made of that job something altogether new. just as every new president is measured against franklin roosevelt, that continues to happen.

every first lady finds herself confronted with the memory of mrs. roosevelt. >>host: peter is up next. you are on with can burns and jeffrey ward. >>caller: tell me please how much of an influence george frederick hagel had on harvard and also on teddy roosevelt and fdr. thank you. >>guest: i am not sure about that. his favorite student purportedly was a man named john augustus roebling traveled to the united states and would eventually build, design, and not live to see his son complete the building of the greatest engineering feat of the 19th century, the brooklyn bridge, a hugely important show for oscar and the academic model basically took over the american academic model at the end of the 19th century. i don't think you can draw straight lines between the

philosophy of hazel and theodore or certainly not franklin roosevelt. >>host: i i agree. on our line for democrats. good morning. >>caller: good morning, and thank you for taking my call. thank you and give you kudos for your time. i thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed your depiction of the dust bowl. it knocked me to my knees because it really showed what true poverty could be in this country. country. i want to thank you for your book. i see the great moviemaking

subject. >>host: thank you. >>guest: we live in a media age in which we are drowning in information. we got we got lots of it, but very little understanding, and it is great to have c-span and pbs represent all of those voices, and that is what we are trying to do. we had superficial ideas. the conventional wisdom. there must have been one bad storm. there were a hundred storms that did not just kill crops these are important things that we tried to tease out. in the case of the roosevelts, as roosevelts, as i said at the beginning, we tend to segregate them. a progressive republican, and franklin was a democrat. there is much more that they

were alike than different. the intricate family drama is so important. important. it helps you understand and stitched together important parts of american history that allows you to escape the conventional wisdom that we are all burdened with. we know very little. we are just buried in stuff. it is not all true, and a lot of people come with baggage and assumptions and conspiracies,, and it is our job as historians and storytellers to tell you what we no. we we employed all sorts of people from the left, right, center. most importantly, people who knew the story. we we are confident that we told a balanced and accurate portrait. >> the stories that you two have told together. >> they are like your children.

we are we are as proud of this one as anyone that we have done. it is tough to do and intertwined narratives. it has been likened to a russian novel, and that is what it is. lots of secondary and tertiary characters. 104 years. and that is a hugely important time. the greatest cataclysm in human history, world war ii, the greatest economic cataclysm, the depression, world war i, the gilded age, the cold war, the roaring 20s, the age of the great trust and monopolies. hold on, fasten your seatbelts. this this is a bumpy ride. it has been our great pleasure and joy.

>> and infamous history. >> a a little bit from a different.of view. if you understand the internal motivations you will understand events that may seem familiar. >>host: virginia is up next. good morning. >>caller: good morning. i would like to congratulate you guys for the great job that you did. my father's name was theodore roosevelt. he taught me about the roosevelts, about theodore and franklin and how progressive they were. this is something i would like you to expound on. pres. president obama is considered a progressive. he is always trying to bring the middle class up and support class up. why is it that during this

age they are not receiving the message that our country thrives on the middle class people. >>guest: you are absolutely right. you are beginning to see. we have been locked in gridlock and political partisanship. there is an understanding. they have done pretty well, and i think they have understood that if salaries remain flat, earning remains flat, it is declining. wages are declining, and you you cannot have a healthy economy going forward without that. all americans subscribe to the notion of fairness, a level playing field. you are seeing that rhetoric i hope our film adds a small voice to the notion of the nature of and how we get

things done in a complicated country that even back then was partisan. the roosevelts were despised by a number of people in society. they were still able to get things done. one of the things that theodore and franklin roosevelt could not get done was the affordable care act. if theodore were to suddenly appear in our studio he would say, what? what kind of country are you look at the other countries. maybe it is is a big political football, but in the scheme of progress you can look at the affordable care act as the last act of the new deal. >>host: the next question. would teddy recognize the republican party today?