and because of the wars and occupations have not been able to achieve that. >> time for two more questions. [inaudible question] >> could you repeat the question? >> why don't you repeat it because i don't -- >> how will it go if nothing changes? [laughter] >> actually one of the

greatest tragedies is the fact that neither side gets to win. the afghan government is being funded completely by the us and its allies. so the resistance is being funded by foreign countries. the united states appears to be willing to fund the afghan government is actually in perpetuity. as they did with warlords and torturers and criminals which is, in short, the next generation of insurgents and taliban. so continuing -- this is a terrifying thing to think about, about, but it is the case. neither side is strong

enough to defeat the other. >> yeah. well, yeah. so yeah. it will stop when people here at home figure out the money is not going to education, etc. what we are seeing in ferguson and elsewhere, people are getting exhausted by the general militarization of our society. there is a breaking.at some time. we have not reached at yet. let's get organized. we are here tonight. >> as with iraq the projects that were their.

it is my understanding with afghanistan there is an issue of pipelines and that sort of thing. would you consider that to be part of the dynamic as to why we are still committed and involved in this and so forth and so on? i understand that defense contractors and oil companies have done very well off of the iraqi war. it it could be the same situation with afghanistan. >> defects contractors have done well off afghanistan. the us has spent more money on afghanistan in the last 13 years than they have on the marshall plan. i think it is a pipe dream. i do not think it is -- it

is different than the case of iraq. a lot of beltway bandits have made a lot of money off the war in afghanistan in the form of reconstruction projects building roads, providing security for us bases, not any sort of natural resources. >> all right. thank you so much for coming out, everybody. [applause] >> thank you so much for coming. i'm sure the authors would be happy to sign them for you. thank you, again. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

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>> host: the book is called "countdown to zero day: stuxnet and the launch of the world's first digital weapon". the author kim zetter. what was stuxnet?