on that experience as a ranch girl. >> you were a private law practitioner out in phoenix? >> yes. you were in the state senate there. >> yes. >> majority leader at one point. yes. >> you were a superior court judge. >> yes. and an assistant attorney general at one time. and i was on the trial court bench and thrt o >> and. >> men it is such an interesting job of course, . top privilege. we are to serve here to have the most interesting legal issues of our time come to this court. to work with a group of colleagues better so dedicated and intelligence and competent and everybody on this court wants to try

to do a good job. it is really wonderful. when i was in the state senate like any legislative body there are times when somebody will say i support your bill if you support to the online. in think that is abating. that doesn't happen at this institution and that is wonderful. it is a place ready sincerely tries to do the best job he/she can with the issue before them to give it the best shot. >> by the way your sister did not participate. why? si 13 is harder than two and two is harder than one but it was very important because i'd like my sister

and me, she lived there the whole time un interrupted. c-span: he is nine. >> is she is 10. c-span: what is he doing today? >> guest: he lives in tucson and so does my sister i served in the state senate eight years until she was term limited out the very place i served before her the issue was the county supervisor. she also had a life in politics the. c-span: there are a couple of images in the book if i

read there rights of you and your father where they see the atomic bomb test. >> guest: my father and i we were rounding up cattle on the very date that the first atomic bomb exploded in new mexico. we were up at 3:00 a.m. for a roundup we had some coffee and breakfast in the kitchen and the window looked north. i was rinsing off the dishes at the sink and it must have been maybe 4:00 in the morning. and we saw in the north and little bit east an explosion on the verizon and a huge cloud go up. my father came over and we looked at it and we could not figure it out.

he said i don't know. maybe it was the munitions dump or something like that. it wasn't and tell some time later when it became public knowledge that the first atomic bomb had been exploded at lowe's alamos. c-span: the cover of the book. thank you very much

this program contains language that some may find offensive. [inaudible conversations] >> i am very excited to be introducing laura kipnis. but first a have a confession to make. i am a man. i still identify as male but i usually don't call myself a man. a boy seems more appropriate.

or do or my homeboys or bro seems fund but by all accounts i am a man. i need to explain for beyond my expertise and at times i have been called a diva so i must count myself as one of the tribe even if i feel different and then and then spreading their legs on this the brailowsky the -- shot the subway so how do i do it? how do i sleep that night? all of that french feminism is not doing shit for me

now. you are here to help me out. the author of "men" laura kipnis per essays have appeared in "harper's" "harper's", sleet and among others has received fellowships from guggenheim and rockefeller and the lives year in new york and will read from her book. [cheers and applause] >> thank you for that. the net like to say some of

my best friends are men and i have written a lot about them. i will read from a couple of sections. but first i should tell you this subtitle is notes from an ongoing investigation" anything i learned tonight i will include in this sequel. the book is divided into four sections and the use the term affectionately. neurotics, sex fiend and haters. [laughter] thank you for seeing that as many. i will read a little bit with the part regarding and then from a chapter from this section and called cheaters. this is how wise said it up. men have fascinated we may

be too much. the trouble me they are larger and take up a lot of space in the imagination. they force you to think about them. a daddy's girl is really a wayward woman it was defined and started to rummage around the essays of criticism i have written but there was not random but instead a lot of it was around the subject of men. what are they to me? to much thinking that led to writing like taking a cross-country trip to look up all the husbands and boyfriends and setting up housekeeping in every few weeks. admit to where you did wrong or to be more generous or less. politicians, pornographers,

writers and jocks. some are big lover boy days some were complete shit. but this one brings out the funny side this when you are uninhibited with this when you could never stop judging were correcting. maybe that is intimacy after all that there is a lot of projection mature relationship bank goes without saying we make people look according to a rhone necessities and writers and spouses but what strikes me most about the essays is my coverts and ve of men including, by to dismember. men have always rested more freedom from the world and i envied the. i am not the only one

preoccupied with mint but the most persistent theme is masculinity then opened his own collective essays on the subject. also attune to when he named the new man from the 1970's. what is new about him? he makes fresh claims on everyone's attention. with lepers of neglect. i like the formulation because the leaves my own fascination i have been writing about because they have my attention and they grabbed me from behind so clarissa self irony that prevails. looking at the old prairie embalms of manhood it is not

only is the subject of manhood. i've lately has been retreating it probably comes first to mind that he would be a flat and he puts out it. and though the niche the battered mail rates the castration really was an ongoing threat. but he to also be quite funny or even antic gore energized that women wanted to take his pen away then the notorious town hall with liberation in 1971 to bring down the house to ask mailer is a good novelist can do

everything but the remnant of his balls. when you did your balls and in'' color is the? he graciously conceded then he would have to agree the coverage is yellow. in the divas are inseparable or just call them buffoons and pugnacious never easy to mock. , i felt more complicated about it. so to remark as the critics as they write the tough thank it he mentioned as a complement. i know i should be stopping my foot but i shriek with delight every time i read the sentence. to provide such anxiety from

the conditions in subliminal. there is many complaints about the new man as there was about his predecessors the outdated versions are no less irksome but today's he is listless and emotionally paralyzed and indecisive. the lack of libido is insulting mail and desire on the way out would not be satisfactory. aquino pin advise is to go on strike against male apathy but is that redundant? and i finished up the process though women taken into seriously and not seriously enough. the bipolar condition

plebeian the chapters that follow. please something guy offered myself up as a model progressive on the subject of male or female relations. it is refers but does a woman writer whose subject has been only on the light in the side of the street would mean what? many times protesting that they get more reviews space or recent complaints that they do things about women with a boring path to the promised land that would be. first lady to think feminism means very weird retrograde identification of a fantasy life. suffragette or campbell? far better to devour your opponents in a frenzy and in

the dead the security of what you already know. interjecting and eat them alive. [laughter] choose slowly and savor those thoughts. [cheers and applause] >> now i skip ahead. to the chapter called cheaters. if i had been having in on and off again with a married sports hero then discovered to my dismay or chagrin other girls are simultaneously having affairs with the same married sports hero, when i feel justified to tell or sale my a tale to the media? this is a question i asked myself a lot less certain

world class golf champion became a national preoccupation with the embarrassing revelations issuing daily from his harem. but i suspect the answer would be maybe. there is a footnote on the verge of publishing the ex's lovers or with my commentary and tell halted by a cautious editor so now i cannot claim any high ground. as famously including the letters with more literary precedent so i assured myself. [laughter] i suspected the case is maybe so but i could understand how getting clobbered with photos of other mistress's to realize you were not as special and chosen as you thought you were one of a small pride might demand some score saddling at least the was

straight in the media out how you're different from the rest. but the question that crossed my mind was there in an unwitting pension penchant for partners to had the need to share their experience with the media or with the world? or was a sports hero just oblivious about facts of contemporary life that when it comes to celebrity sexual privilege? maybe that is the tough message to hear but yet that fans and admirers are drawn that appear to be the same cohort most likely to use only about later but they

note -- may well include your current spouse. i would want to know the correlation. serial philanders need to be better psychologist as one suspects to be psychologically savvy is a quality that separates those from those who don't. in the interest to promote to a more emotional celebrities sector of a bite to offer a cautionary observations at least those who have not yet been caught in compromising positions. to begin it is a tough world , gone are the days when monica lewinsky only tells a dozen friends about her flying with the president. now is to might as well be

zero which is worth thinking about if you hope to be famous one day. also everything is personal but nothing is private. chalk it up to narcissism the digital revolution and the tabloids or all of the above but the upshot is how we perform our rules and public is radically altered in a short period of time. for what used to be the public-private divide that is almost indecisive decipherable. to conduct our emotional lives in public to have social consequences that the traditional entitlements of the celebrity status come with the new disincentives that the one night stand will tweeting about your performance before the sheets are dry or snap being naked sulfone photos of you while