i am almost ashamed i am doing it because i am discriminating. they are trained capable ready. the 1st group they turned over in december ironically they were national guard prison guards. they could not understand, in the prisons we work in we work with muslim all the time. all sorts of case law that allows exactly what we would be doing with the women. long story short we are restricted. this all happened around november. one of the military judges lifted the temporary order, but we still have one in the case of some other -- and i

misspoke this morning. so then 15 soldiers in the normal equal opportunity process anyone for any reason if they feel they have been discriminated against can register an eeo complaint and 15 guards did that, seven or seven or eight men and the rest women the the governing document for us is the army regulation 600 _-dash 20. it requires investigation to try to settle the issue. we sent down a one star because the judges are colonels and lieutenant colonels, we have to send an investigating officer that a senior. so so we sent one star navy

admiral who did the investigation. we have the complaint and's informed and briefed, which is part of the process. the commander at gitmo signed off on it. it was found to be discriminatory. we hope that the 2nd judge lifts the order. but we don't know. >> what is the process going forward? >> i understand that there is an appeal process. this building i think. it is out of my hands if it goes to that. >> thank you. what is your view at this moment on the 911 trial and the families thinking that this will never happen?

that is my 1st question. >> i i wish i had not asked either one of those countries. most of you know this i don't run the commissions for my support them. they are run -- there is a commissions process, law, you know all of that. i no that they are frustrated. all i can tell you is once again my defenses, i am i am not a lawyer but a simple marine. i no right from wrong. i don't know with the complications are so i should not comment on the link the time commissioner taking because i do not know what the process is in the courtroom. the head prosecutor. doing whatever needs to be done. the families are very very frustrated. the other question is about

closing gitmo. guantánamo naval base is usually useful as a facility to the united states. one of the big things, i have a mission, mass migration mass migration type scenarios which is often before. haitians that are trying to get somewhere else and the same thing with the cubans. the cubans. the coast guard saves their lives, generally brings them to gitmo and are under dhs authority. and they repatriate them or listen to the stories. at a certain time when that process gets overwhelmed in the last time i got overwhelmed was the mid- 1990s 47000 haitians and who knows how many died from a us coast guard navy saved all of these lives move into guantánamo. the military then does not

take responsibility but houses them, takes care of them. dhs is in charge. we construct camps, treat them right take care of them in the way that the un has guidelines for refugees and assist dhs and repatriate. it is a useful base. if you are talking about guantánamo in terms of detention off, i don't know. the pres. wants to close it and until that happens i we will take care of those prisoners in a dignified way that sees to their every need. >> and talking earlier about the situation with regard. >> these are commission judges. >> okay. also this morning you

mentioned some of the -- i think the words you used were pretty abusive behavior could you elaborate on that? what kind of abusive behavior are you talking about? >> if you don't know they know, they concoct a cocktail, usually feces, urine, sperm, vomit command turn it into a cocktail. with regard comes to say take the trash or move them -- each one of the detainees whether they are in the communal saying living as a group, or some are an individual cells, but the cells, but the ones in the individual cells have to get recreation time, go up to the playground the backfield everyday.

so so when they go to give food, take the trash, move them to the movies that splash. another thing, if they thing, if they can assault the guards physically, they will do that. that that is why we move them in a certain way. the. the apartment, the federal bureau of prisons has a guideline for this. the same the same way they move in this state prison, essentially the state prison of any state in the union. leavenworth there is a way to do this. and i we will not back off. the number one mission failure to me at guantánamo bay is one of my troops gets killed or seriously injured. that is mission failure for me. and so we sometimes will have a detainee be cooperative. the 1st opportunity he

gets he knees someone in the groin. i we will not back off from common procedures of movement from one point to another. that said, the folks that live in communal pots individual cells they go in and out of but they have a 22 hours a day where they can walk outside on their own car play soccer, read a book and it is very -- it is nothing like prison. it is everything like a detention facility that is will run. they go into their cells at night and then we have the preventive medicine people come in and make sure they are cleaning the place up make sure the places sanitary enough to live in. randomly searched cells. so i don't know if i have answered your question, but

that is usually from the detainees who are in single cells. if they are in a a communal setting, which is what we prefer because if they are on the golf course and we are the good guys and would like to see them at least in a a minimal setting in terms of restriction, but if they go after one of my guards or do something like assault the guard, then we will move them to a single cell for a time command that varies. >> i'm sorry. [inaudible question] >> a bit about. the country was imploding. first of all what you think of these allegations that have been launched recently

the us pilot. >> air force pilot. >> what is your understanding of what is going on there. the country has experienced crews before. >> i mean the 1st 1st thing i said venezuela it is really sad because they are sitting atop the largest oil reserves on the planet. they have nothing but fiscal potential. but over the years through a number of decisions made by the government that has all atrophy to the.now where you have an unbelievable inflation rate of 65, 75 80 percent. anyone that lives there will tell you go into a store. now it has gotten to the. if someone is walking down the street you get in line

because you don't know what is at the end but something must be. it might be bread milk, toilet paper. a critical item. that is where the place is economically. where the place is from a political.of view command obviously he is clamped down pretty well on the newspapers the media there are a fair number of being arrested and the opposition. i think the opposition has gone from being political opposition to an enemy. so real restrictions on them i don't know i don't know anyone who would want to take that mess over but it might be that we see whether at the end of his term or whatever i would i would not say necessarily a coup, but there might be the same ruling party making arrangements to change

leadership but i am not involved in any way, shape or form. and i probably would know if someone was. as far as the air force the use of force -- u.s. air force pilot this would be a question for the state department. i believe it was a us pilot. remember they come out of venezuela. a lot of people in cahoots with this whole thing. could not possibly operate. operate. those flights are making their way up the island chain. dominican republic. they were going almost exclusively into honduras from, dead strips or bits of that land, offload and then take off again or just destroy the airplane. the hondurans with no

military help from us some advice and encouragement and started to occupy and move their military command these are very remote areas of honduras moving their military out there. drug traffickers no that they are there. >> a a civilian. >> a us pilot, and chances i am guessing he was on his way -- i don't know what he was doing. but all of the drug flights come out of venezuela. >> you alluded you said that the policies are a clear return to cold war tactics. how could that translate into account plantation.

bomber patrols if in fact they happened. confrontation could escalate not in the midst of an october type of scale another jfk idealist, but on the lower level. >> i don't think much of all. i think just a nuisance. we watch them come and go. very little possibility of them having a confrontation with us ships and airplanes because there aren't any down there. i did not mean it to come up with the way. last year we saw for the 1st time since 2,008 the three ship task force to crews are destroyed type ships and the military logistics shift come to the caribbean. they went to cuba once or

twice, nicaragua then they went back on derusha. we had we had a long-range bomber mission come down and spent a few days there. hopped around a little bit violated airspace a couple of times, and the went home. you. you know there is reportedly nicaragua and a few of the other countries that entered into discussions of agreements with the russians so that they could maybe land long-range aviation, refuel pilot rest but i don't think it is an issue. >> ratchet up pressure in the ukraine, arming the ukrainian military are you concerned that russia in a a tit-for-tat will become more of a nuisance in your part of the world? >> i think so more of a nuisance not a threat.

one over the last few years, but none since 2,008 or something. the ratchet up with a few more missions that get people's attention. maybe -- ship operations, that kind of thing. making making the.that they are still around and can come into our hemisphere. very little support from the vast majorities of countries that want to support us trade with us. nuisance would be the word i would use. >> hello and thank you. i had a follow-up. now that you have identified a potential weakness what are you recommending as the solution? more funding to countries to help them track people where they know that they arrest

prisoners. the suggesting more sharing with these countries that you identified. what is a what is the solution to stop the islamic state from using the loophole. the way they interact with their counterparts in various countries. a willingness for all the countries to cooperate with the united states and other nations. so i think you have to watch them. the cia and fbi and people like that do a good job tracking the network, but there are a lot of people coming and going, and it only takes one to cause problems. for me i continue to agree

to partner with countries that want to partner with the united states, which is most of them. my intelligence officer has great relationships with all of there intelligence officers. my operations officer navy component commander he has very close relations with all of their naval see in those. we have very very, very good friendships. that is the solution, i think, the cooperation. >> the 2nd to last question. >> the united states the exercises going on right now in south korea.

maybe the sensors. >> absolutely nothing about that. i do know that the ships and vessels that are produced in south korea are considered to be high quality and some american countries. you know that we have done flyovers. one of the things that have come out of that is they refuse to communicate in any way. make any attempt to communicate with these aircraft were ships?

>> not son command. that would be a better question for norad folks. once they enter the area of operations that i am responsible for and they did not do anything hazardous. the only in and out was from one country of little concern. they just may have been off course of it. and it really just be one more question. >> my question is about one of the units the defense studies, the national defense study. they publish findings. from columbia. one is now teaching at national defense university.

i am wondering if you have insights. >> it does not work for me. i wish it did. but i heard about the chilean. i don't know what the colombian and the professors. i am heavily involved in human rights. i meet with human rights groups in washington every three to four months, a large group at the kerry center. sometimes they asked me about specific cases. someone else high up and honduras and give me situational awareness. it is it is a good dialogue.

when i travel to various countries, just about every time i go down there to any country i we will have a discussion for a couple of hours with local human rights groups. i never know what i we will get, but they all have specialties. two people that were very involved coming off guard. it's a big deal the human rights in general. good questions about it. the 1st time i have ever sat down and had a long conversation with people that were experts in that field. field. women's rights, another couple of representatives. colombians. i did not know this until i got this job, but probably 30% 30 percent of the colombians are of african descent. a two-hour conversation getting an awful lot of situational awareness.

what what is interesting is when i get out of these are talking generally about these violation all rights in the society or the government doing something. in the columbia case it is never about the government doing it the more societal attitudes and how it has take -- it will take time to change these things. it is very telling. you have to get the president to stop his people from doing x, y and z. the other thing human rights complaints tend to be about way in the past or the future. i mean serious civil rights abuses and have been for most of there existence, the good news is the colombian government has human rights issues in the past and their working hours investigating them. guatemala.

generally speaking,. generally speaking, pretty high marks about how things are going today. the underlines taken off the bad boy end of the thing i i don't know if that answers your question. i am sure ost knows this other gentleman is working that has the allegations against him from columbia. this is known. >> publicly available. >> they are the boss. if you say it is widely known, it's known, it's probably some process they are going through. thank you for the question. okay. thanks, everyone.

>> up next secretary of state john kerry talks about climate change. next month the us will head up a forum.

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is 45 minutes. >> good morning everybody and thank you very much for a generous introduction. i'm delighted to be here with everybody,ngui >> >> about this critical issue and i am delighted to be accompanied by our own voice for climate has been toiling away for a long time to help shape president obama is state department policy and also things for your efforts. thank you for your leadership here the lentic council, of red ahaz's showed he has the ability on the critical issues of the day.

and as a result we can count on the land to counsel to be ahead of the kerb to challenge all of us to think so thank you to all of you who are of the board who are committed to the efforts of the council. you also have the impeccable eye for talent. i was not surprised to hear you have a good sense to hire the ambassador has the most experienced global energy expert and a good friend of mine a son of massachusetts now he is director of the new global energy center you could not be in better hands. and my former legislative assistant for energy and climate at the white house is part of this great family so we are a family here this morning.

it is clear from venezuela to iraq to the ukraine there is no shortage of energy challenges of the world today we have had many conversations their brussels with the energy segment where we laid out the agenda how to liberate these countries from the one country dependency does huge strategic importance. but at the top of the list is climate change the why the very first hosted by the center is so very important and i am delighted to be here and part of that.