the health care system in america significantly and we must continue the program. the affordable care act for all of the reasons we mentioned, mr. president, is something that is very important and it is important everyone understands how absolutely fantastic it was for the people of this country. after five years it is clear it is working, americans are benefiting from increased coverage, lower cost and improved efficiency. i invite my republican colleague to accept obamacare is the law of the land put aside the unrealistic notion of repealing the law that gave 16.4 million people health care. the republican plans would basically drop them all. instead, republicans join us and help more americans getting the funds they need. per perhaps five years from now they look back seeing we made a good law better for all-americans

>> coming up the "the communicators" features tim moynihan. and then the senate debate on the 2016 budget. welcome to the ces international convention in las vegas. joining us we will take a tour with tim moynihan of wired magazine. tim, we are in the lg booth here. what is here that made you want to see this booth? >> lg makes a lot of things with my primary area of coverage is

television. they are a unique company because they make led's which people see as the future of quality. they are very expensive and hard to make. lg is the only one making that one. >> is it considered high technology anymore to make a television? >> yes. most televisions right now are computers. they are tvs that have ten core processors and the integrated function for the web, streaming. 4-k is huge and needs processing power. quantum dot is huge. and lg is unique in they have these led's. >> behind us it says 8k >> we are beyond 4-k now. these are prototypes. there is one sharp tv that is coming out and going to be stimulated but we are talking about stepping it up in

resolution. if you think about it as the jump from standard to high definition this is four times the definition of high resolution. it is crystal clear and sort of the next wave. this is the first year more and more people. >> and i mentioned a couple years ago, 3d television was the big talk but it didn't seem to go anywhere. >> it did not. a lot of 3d televisions were sold because most had the features built-in. they didn't have a chose to buy them. i don't think anybody is watching 3d at home. standard and high definition is different. people want the crystal clear picture and this is bringing it to another level. >> are people buying tvs still? we hear about people watching on the mobile device. >> this is the first moment

where people have an excuse to spend money on a tv. there was a boom in hd televisions. this probably isn't the year for 4-k. but we are seeing more content services delivered in 4-k and becoming more affordable and that is still talking a few thousand dollars in most cases for a few around a $1,000-$2,000. the longer you wait the cheaper and the more content available. >> did you come to lg to see what? >> old led is over here. they have a shape shifting tv that is amazing. you will see it. >> what is shape shifting? >> it goes from a curved display to a flat display by remote control. that is this one. this is going to be the top of the line tv. 77 inch set. and you will see it it is beautiful. you can see the side here it will start curving in and it will curve back out.

you can do that with the remote control. he is operating it. how are you doing? >> good. >> she is making it curve. what are you doing to this tv exactly? >> i press the remote control and changing from the flat screen to the curving screen. so if you look down you can see that is a curved screen. do it again and it will go back to being a flat screen. >> what does the curve do? how does that affect the television picture? >> basically if you have look at the eyes you see them focused. so when you are looking at it you can see the screen getting a more intense picture. >> when will this be on the market? >> i have no idea. >> it will be like $200 right? >> maybe a little more. [laughter] >> this is a prototype? >> no this is scheduled to be released. you mean see the 8-k prototype

that is not planned for the market but this s. there is always a source of light coming through in the black. when you look at the black picture on the led tv it will be gray. this is the pure absence of light making the contrast and the bright colors looking incredible. the colors pop off of that. it is beautiful. these are still prohibited and expensive. >> what does that mean? >> lg is the only one making these sets. the ones last year which were 1080 p i think you can get them mid-$3,000 to $4,000 but when launched they were $15,000 so the prices are coming down. >> what does it stand for?

>> organic light emitting biode. it is similar to led but very different technology. led in an led set refers to the back light system and uses led back lights to color liquid crystal display and then this one is actually using the individual o-led particles as a source of light so they can pea turned on and off independently. to my eyes this is pretty amazing, right? this is 4-k and o-led which are the two buzz words at this show and have been for a few years and this is the holy grail of tv's i think. >> what else do you want to see? >> let's see. so many to pick from. let's go to 8-k, i guess.

this is a prototype but -- >> what does 8-k stand for? >> 8,000 lines of resolution. 4 k is 4,000 lines of resolution on the vertical axis right? so this is four times as clear. >> when you go by a tv today how many lines of resolution are there? >> that is 1080 p so 2k is what people are calling it. >> the 4-k is on the market and everywhere and the price is starting to come down? >> yes, but it is still a little expensive expensive. lg is coming out with more 4-k sets than 1080.

>> your view from wired magazine is lg one of the leaders? >> lg samsung, and sony and sharp is there. there is a couple chinese companies that are coming out. u they are huge chinese television manufacture manufacturers coming to the united states and offering high end technology at lower prices and built the roku into their tvs which a streaming platform. they are making a smart push into the market. they may not be household names like lg or samsung but they are coming up. >> all right. 8-k. >> it looks like paper. you cannot see individual pixels. you can get close to that and you will not see any pixels.

it is hard. >> that is pretty good. >> it is hard to even -- it is so sharp, i mean. >> it is probably hard to see via the camera but are we looking at a 3-d screen here? >> looks 3-d because it is sharp and you are not used to a television picture looking that sharp. >> what strikes me is how thin the tvs are. >> a lot of o-led is supposed to be capable of being thinest' -- thinnes thinnest -- and super thin tvs that are led tvs which quantum dot technology which is another thing to talk about >> does that have technology

that is proprietary? >> it is not proprietary to sony and i just learned this. quantum dot or own proprietary names are coming out. quantum dot has a layer of nano particles that are very easily controlled by light. so they can glow a certain shade of red or green. and what that does is improve the overall picture quality because led have a harsh form of light. this is like having two mechanisms between the led and the panel that makes the color very vibrant. that is a different technology. you will see quantum dot. lg has a quantum dot set over here. >> let's go look at it. >> and why quantum dot exist is

because o-led is expensive to make and buy. so this is cheaper. it is based on an led/lcd set but with an extra layer. >> even the class is high tech. >> i don't know much about the glass but it seems like they have done amazing things with anti-glare technology. you can see here this is quantum dot. these are quantum dot. yeah. >> altered hd. >> here is the author of this. >> every company has quantum dot and it is the panel technology. so that was the nano particle crystal thing i was talking

about. that is the color tuning technology. and the reason it exist is because everybody wants to make an o-led but they are expensive to make and buy so this is based on led or lcd technology and it is cheaper to make. it is a mature platform. people can turn them out and you can find them cheaply. this is more than an led tv but the picture quality is amazing. >> what is hard here is walking through the crowds. no body is really looking straight ahead. everybody is looking at tvs and stuff. and increasingly people are on their phones all of the time especially me and my team wired, because we are trying to cover the whole show using cell phones for the second year in a row. we are not allowed to recharge phones using wall sockets.

>> what is the philosophy? why is that? >> last year it was an example of things that fit in your pocket are better than previous technology in covering a show like this. you can do everything you need to on a pocket device that is wider. you can take picture of video while you are going and post it immediately. that is an advantage that mobile devices have over laptops and those are a struggle to bring around. everything weighs you down. >> we are at samsung with the wall of amazing tv. >> this is samsung's spin on quantum dot and they call it their own propriotry and you will

see the colors popping off the screen. that is what the quantum dot technology is supposed to do. this is a piece that is showing sets that can rival the image quality of o-led. >> if you were to get pictures like this at home you plug in the television and no cable or satellite does it work as well that way or better when you can connect it through cable? >> everything you are seeing is a demo. what makes the 4-k thing very different from any other resolution happening in the past is the primary form of delivery will be over the internet. we are talking about very very big files and i think only 17%

of u.s. households have internet connection that is rated to be able to handle that sort of data regularly without stuttering. netflix in 1080p will stop and freeze and go. broadcast, i talked to someone who worked in the tv industry and they are estimating broadcasting 4-k is like five or six years ago. so streaming is going to be the main source of content. there will be blue ray disks for 4-k later this year. direct tv and dish network will have satellite services for 4-k but you need to stream your stuff for now and you will need a pretty hefty internet connection to be able to do

that. we have gone to companies that make a a lot of of different things. sony samsung, and lg make everything and they have the biggest presence here at the shows. >> what are you showing us from sony? >> this is the finished tv. so this is a penny right? and it is like what a fifth of a penny wide. it seems like a piece of ply wood but it is a 4-k television with quantum dot but they are not calling it quantum dot technology. so the highest quality picture and finish together. it seems like those things could not possibly go together. but this is thinner than an i-phone. it is thinner than most cell phones out there. >> is this on the market?

>> it is coming out. usually the tvs announced at the show come out in the spring or fall. this is the big show piece. >> you see something this thin and the picture again as clear as it is is this a forecast? how is that cellphone? >> i am assuming this is going to be probably $5-$6,000. probably. you can see it is just like impossible. it doesn't look like it is possible. right? i am worried about a stiff breeze. it feels like this thing could blow over. it does have a little bump. there is something you can mount this from the bottom on a wall easily. >> what is the technology in this tv?

>> you have an led backlight system and there is a layer of quantum dots they are not calling quantum dots. it is called triluminous display. that is the name of it. and quantum dot i am not sure why people are calling it different things i think people put a proproprietary spin on it. this is an a next generation lcd/led panel. it is not o-led. o-led -- lg is the only one making them now. so the companies are trying to make something like this but cheap cheaper to buy and make because people see the tv they want and

it is $10,000. so they are meant to get cheaper and cheaper overtime. >> what are you going to write about tonight in the wire? >> i have to use my cellphone to do it. >> right. what is your theme? >> the way we are covering the show is like traditional stories. the big stories is the analysis stuff that comes offer the show. i have not seen everything here yet. it is impossible to see everything. i am here until thursday doing meetings and going to booth and i will know the major trends. there are some obvious ones. quantum dot the curved display that transform from curve to flatness is a new one, keeping track of what is going on and taking stock of it and following up with companies and

interviewing people who were involved in the process of developing it. i love ces but is exhausting. i love coming and it is everything in one building. if you like technology at all it is a dream world. a lot of people knock it because it is chaotic but you have to run around look at things, and questions and follow what is going on and it is interesting >> while we have you here anything we are missing that we have not seen that you want to show us? >> wow. sure. yeah. sharp. sharp has the first 4-k television that up scales to something that looks like 8-k. >> and that is a spin on technology? >> this is the first set they are putting out that does that and it is out by the end of the year. if you want to see that -- >> let's go.

>> this is another case where it is going to be expenseive but it is the first step. that is the take away from ces. you see things in two years that might end up in your house. >> a lot of smaller manufacture manufacturers that are integral to this business. >> it is as a mix of things -- is a -- i will these are action tabs. that is another growing trend. action cameras that are -- go-pro is the most famous one. sony has a 4-k video as well. sony and pansonic are the only two active in making consumer camcorders that shoot 4-k and that is the other side of what

is going on. record your child's soccer game with 4-k and your eyes are going to get used to that and you will want everything in 4-k. sort of what happened in standard and high definition. sharp is famous for making very big tvs. they have focus on 60 inches and up for the past few years. and what goes hand and hand is upgrade in resolution. you want a bigger screen to be able to see the bigger resolution. >> so last year they introduced their first 4-k television and now they have a 4-k television that can upscale to something

more like 8-k. and they do this with some pixel technology. they introduce something called quantrom a few years ago. the suffixes make up each pixel like red, blue and green colors mixed and matched. they added a yellow to that set. so they have four sub-pixels for color. >> even i get lost here. >> so they started off having to claim a wider color gamut than other tv makers because they added this new technology. now they have cut it in half horizontally and made them addressable by the set so what

it does is it actually increases what they are claiming is the res lieuing resolution of the panel because it can create they are saying 42 million more subpixels than other tvs. that is all mumbo jumbo probably. >> we have an advance audience. >> we have sharp, toshiba here. should all of the countries we are touring -- companies -- be considered high end? >> toshiba is pretty high end if they have a robot lady. that is disturbing. >> a little bit. >> there is the robot that looks a little too much like a human. >> see that?

that does have a factor to it. >> the fact of the tv industry -- >> moving right along. what is -- the companies i have -- that lg samsung, sony and sharp -- i would say maybe a lot of others are doing it to but in the past few years i am kind of seeing them coming up with more leaps and bounds in the tv realm. another company we were talking about, visio they have been great and are number one brand in the u.s. or were, and they came out with a 4-k television that cost $1,000.

that is weird. you see weird things here. >> you do. it is great. >> so sharp is not as -- they have huge huge tvs and what goes hand and hand is increases in resolution. you will see here they saw the lg television, i think this one is even better. i believe it is over here. >> i believe the reason for these is this is a full array.

the back light system is led. >> it says android on top. >> that is a new thing coming up. the backlight system, it is thicker because it is full array backlight system so the entire panel is addressed by led backlights. so in a lot there is edge lit where there is rows directed by things inside the tv to face forward. android tv is a big thing happening this year. the google developed tv platform. i have played around with it on the nexus player. it is interesting because what it really does is mix youtube content really tv friendly. people don't think of youtube as friendly but this has voice control with key words and you

get video do is watch based on the key word. that is a platform a lot of manufactures are building in. sony is another with android tv sharp is another one and there is probably going to be more vendors coming out. streaming becomes more and more mainstream because that is the only way to watch 4-k and that will be an important component of tv. >> you wanted to show the sharp tv >> sharp in two ways. this is a 4-k television. so you can see how sharp that is. and you know 4-k is sharp but this is taking it to another level and up scaling content to 8-k. they are showing 4-k footage

here on 8-k. if you want to buy a tv that is 20 years future proof here you go. it looks 3d but it isn't a 3d television. it is so sharp and the contrast is realistic so it looks real. >> is that on the market? >> i think the second half of this year it is coming out. it will be expenseiveexpensive. the top of the line without the 8-k upscaling is $6,000 so this is going to be around the $10,000 range. c ces is a look at two years down the line what is going to be mainstream. so it is like looking into future if you will. >> tim moynihan, wired magazine thank you for your time here. >> thank you.