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something. the 2nd approach. there are dangers that we must be cautious about establishing a system that we can distribute. >> so, next. right here. serve. it's. [speaking in native tongue] 's.
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[speaking in native tongue] 's. >> between the federal government and the government. the issue was raised for the success the proposal the command under the presidency
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of the republic. the president. [speaking in native tongue] 's under the command. they constitution gives the authority. but because the component we should review the law and make it under the presidential state. thank you.
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it's. >> no. >> zero. okay. so, we have time for one last question. hear and then we will conclude. 's. >> the woodrow wilson center. i center. i like to go back to the issue of the iraqi army. there has been a lot of controversy for why the army did not fight as well as could have been desirable. it's this., a problem weapons. what is the reason?
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>> talking about the military a comment on their mark made by the gentleman having the chief of the armed forces we have a commander-in-chief the prime minister and higher for the honorary which is the president of the republic. someone was -- the authority cannot be. the 2nd thing for the army that was repeated in my in addition to the morale itself their indicators to move military sectors.
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not a unified vision which raised a lot of question marks. the council the council of representatives began to look at the orders, military orders we would not be able to hold anybody accountable. >> it is. we are out of time. 's that me thank you for your frankness.
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i hope this is not your last visit. agreed to the institute we have more to celebrate. please join me in thanking the speaker. [applause] >> please remain in your seat until the official party departs.
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[inaudible conversations] >> on the next washington journal bloomberg congressional and white house editor gives an update on the week ahead in congress. then come as the supreme court prepares to roll on king the burwell the case challenging federal subsidies for healthcare we are joined by alan weil of health affairs to discuss our states are preparing for a decision. later we hear from roger the rosa because the foundation and andrew have no of the university of new hampshire institute on disability research.
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[applause] >> good morning. when the secretary of state but -- broke his leg bicycling in southern france eight days ago we all pray for his quick recovery. indeed, very quick recovery. >> the complex negotiations were coming down the wire. the secretary had just been in switzerland and would be heading back to europe and would be heading back to europe to continue talks. the crisis did you grade was escalating and we will he
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your id detail about ukraine isis was on a rampage. and the u.s.-led coalition was weighing tough choices to defeat the growing peril of american interests and allies in the middle east including israel. the phenomenon of anti-semitism was on the rise with deputy attacks with rhetoric. around the world challenges to peace and stability in a human rights demanded american leadership those debtor cool headed and confident. fortunately as looking
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forward to live forever in three years our friends and allies experience american diplomat were the responsibilities the challenges america faces never stop. they are being met the with seasoned practitioner a man of depth character and resolve. it is my great honor to introduce a senior diplomat
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diplomat, secretary of state blinken is a longtime friend. serving on pennsylvania avenue with commissions of great responsibility and in addition to time in the practice of law with a washington think tank. and he spent 10 of them working for vice president biden. then head of the foreign relations committee and later as a national security adviser the bided family are now is in mourning over the tragic death of the vice president's son nine days ago.
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to tony and two others in the road we offer our sincere condolences. the world of the global jewish advocacy if it is a massive transition with a competing national interest but today i am privileged to asked deputy secretary stay blinken a true friend of a jc and a remarkable american into joining us here on the stage. [applause]
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>> state you all very much it is wonderful to be with you today. thank you for those is incredibly kind words and also for your reference to vice president biden and his family during this incredibly difficult time. beau was one of the finest people i had the privilege to know my thoughts for his family and also for the country. so i appreciate your recognition. i will also like to recognize david harris an exemplary leader and a local citizen and a good friend who was celebrating 25 years at the helm of the ajc.
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[applause] congratulations, the muscles of we look forward to another 25 years. at the conference with our distinguished guests including the foreign minister of bulgaria it is great to be here with you as well. [applause] it is a real pleasure to join all of you to see so many familiar faces even if maya was not the one you were hoping for. [laughter] secretary kerry very much wanted to be here today. has many of you know, he has great admiration for the work that you do for the security of israel and the well-being of the jewish people and the dignity of all.
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the baby off his feet for a short while but very much in the lead of laurel -- all efforts across the board probably the smartest thing we did at the state department was set -- sign up for that at&t family plan because he is burning up the phone lines night and day and no time zone is safe. [laughter] we're looking forward to having him back in the office very soon. we are fortunate to have the extraordinary team at the state department everyday's to combat anti-semitism with peace and security in the middle east. those who are here this morning there are exemplary public servants but their work or our work would not be possible without yours. scholars and students and community members and global
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leaders were building relationships across religious and ethnic and national lines you have been called the state department of the jewish people that title is so at double about a seidman's today. [laughter] you have a committee whose voice as dr. king described it has pulled the ben expressed and supported by deeds and actions. for over one century ajc has raised his voice in defense of those who cannot with advocacy and intolerance you were present at the birth of the united nations for you advocated strong human-rights safeguards to champion the creation of the high commission. you dedicated years of diplomacy of research and dialogue to help shape a
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historic declaration of the council of 50 years ago that held the new era of catholic jewish relations at any time by anyone in to have been the indispensable partner to president obama and his predecessors with the ironclad commitment to israel's future with a democratic and prosperous jewish state. it would be a moral failing on the part of the u.s. government and the american people come on my part if we did not stand up firmly and steadfast, not just the half on israel's right to exist but to thrive and prosper. that was president obama last month. [applause]
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>> for more than 65 years since its founding during a period for antis column and crisis, the administration's have backed a staunch unshakeable commitment with concrete support. but no administration has done as much for israel's security as president obama. [applause] don't just take my word for it. this is into another voice to calls this administration support for israel's security'' madame president ted'' is the voice of the israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu. terms of our strategic coronation simply put it has never been stronger. the armed forces have conducted more joint
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military exercises than ever before including the largest in history. to strengthen the military capabilities and the security of both countries at every above all of our relationship to engage in incomprehensive and consultation through political leaders and intelligence officers to defense officials. that is true with vigilance to protect israel's legitimacy of the roll stage to fight with full and equal participation. with the western european with the like-minded last year the united states imposed 80 resolutions of the u.n. general assembly in on five occasions last year you were the only no vote against the on fair human
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rights council. [applause] we will continue to stand with israel and against one-sided buys resolutions even if we're the only country on earth to do so. [applause] and finally the unprecedented support for israel's security can be seated the direct persistence to israel's defense. last year despite difficult times united states gave more security assistance more than everyone before. 31 billion -- over $3 billion. with a missile defense system for the iron dome with schools and hospitals from rainfall of rockets like those that fell again just this past weekend from
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gaza. [applause] to guard against more distant but equally dangerous threats to intercept medium-range ballistic missiles with a powerful radar system that could buy valuable time in the event of a missile attack and we will soon start to live areas -- deliveries of the joint strike fighter for the on the fighters for the world. >> this has stood firmly with israel with the quest for peace with the preservation of true and secure democracy and the jewish homeland the united
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states would never stop working with the side by side because this is the best way to guarantee israel's future with the democratic jewish state. [applause] taken together these examples are reflective of the administration with personal and abiding concern for israel's security and future. i can attest to this to you. last summer late on a thursday during because the crisis when i was still in my position at the white house i've got a call from the ambassador to set up with the itc you anytime you can see me and i centcom over now. he arrived 8:30 p.m..
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he told me is really needed an emergency resupply of interceptors for the iron donuts system and the attache read through the substance of what they needed and why they needed it immediately. the very next day, friday morning i went to the oval office for the president responded with three words. get it done. [applause] by tuesday, just a few short-- later we had an additional 225 million of funding from the u.s. congress to do just that. the united states and israel may not always see eye-to-eye and we have our differences but the bedrock security relationship is a pressing and i am here to tell you it is stronger than ever.
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[applause] i can tell you another thing this morning at the very top of the line as we sit at the negotiating table with i rand united states and israel share a conviction and that iran must not under any circumstances be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon. [applause] when it comes to the core strategic goal there is not 1 inch of daylight between the united states and israel. we continue to believe the very best way to prevent iran from having a nuclear weapon is a negotiated agreement that addresses legitimate concerns and as a practical matter to make impossible to develop material for a weapon with time to see it and stop it. the june 30th deadline is fast approaching.
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we do not yet have a comprehensive agreement and there is a chance we will not get one. but as secretary kerrey announced in april the deal we working toward will close each pathway. they're reading a pathway pathway, as the plutonium pathway for a heavy water reactor and takeover plot -- pathway to cut them off any arrangement must have constraints on the program with the intrusive transparency measures to detect any attempt with the breakout over the zero work covertly. let me take this opportunity to address some of the concerns that are floating
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around the deal that we are working toward progress to tell you these concerns are misplaced and more myth than fact. first, the deal we are working to achieve will not expire. there will not be a sunset. different requirements with different durations but some including the commitment of all obligations of the non-proliferation treaty to not build a nuclear weapon as well as the additional protocol, those would continue in perpetuity. by contrast, the absence of an agreement under the interim arrangement with a joint plan of action those with sunset immediately then i rand would speed to the industrial scale program for tens of thousands of center appears.
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second to this deal would have such extensive levels of transparency if they fail to comply with the community we will deliver surely right away to get plenty of time to respond diplomatically most of these would be suspended, not ended with the provisions if iran comes back on its commitment. we would not agree to buy deal of messages granted access to whatever iranian sites are require that is exclusively peaceful. period. [applause] there is simply no better option to obtain that material than a comprehensive agreement that
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meets the parameters that we set. unfortunately it is a fantasy to believe i rand will capitulate to every demand if we ratchet up the pressure. after all iran suffering even more to the great deprivation of the war in iraq and despite intensifying pressure it went from 150 centrifuges at 90,000 before we've reached the interim agreement. without whom our sanctions are not affected if they signed onto sanctions to get to the negotiating table to conclude it agreement not to force iran to abandon a nuclear program for the we have kept other countries on board despite economic loss in large part because
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they're serious about diplomacy with a diplomatic solution. if they lose that belief is united states, not iran the risks being isolated. and to those who would prefer we take military action now against iran iran, without the last diplomatic mile we would consider that such a response would destroy the international sanctions coalition and only set the program of few years back at best where iran would bury a program underground to speak to us national weapon with a comprehensive agreement we have a chance to achieve much more than that. with all that said united states continues to believe as we have from date number one that no deal is preferable to a bad deal.
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we've had plenty of opportunities to take the bad deal we did not and we will not. [applause] and we know just like the interim agreement we reached in a comprehensive agreement will be subject to scrutiny of citizens, the congress, and closest partners. and we will not agree to any deal that cannot withstand it. at the same time i will say to any opponents, you will have an obligation to tell the american people exactly what you would do differently and how you get it done. [applause] many of you will recall how after re-signed interim joint plan of action to
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enable us to begin these negotiations those told us we made a tragic mistake. iran would not comply with the sanctions regime that we painstakingly built. that we had jeopardize the safety and security of our nation and our partners. to maintain the united states across the entire world would become safer the day after the joint plan of action was implemented. that is exactly what happened. a year-and-a-half ago the program was rushing full speed ahead to a larger stockpile of greater enrichment capacity of what bin grades plutonium and the shorter breakout high-minded has lived up to its commitment halting progress to rollback of key respects for the first time in a decade. because as a result of the
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interim agreement the i aea has a the access to the richmond facilities for the nuclear program to learn new things about the centrifuge and have been able to verify that iran is honoring its commitments. if we do reach of a deal it will not end wherewithal altered our commitment to have a greater respect for universal rights and we continue to insist that we have helped to find robert levenson. [applause] and reaching a comprehensive deal will not alter our committed to fighting area's efforts to spread instability.
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this will not change with llord without a deal but iran with a nuclear weapon was used without a nuclear weapon is far less emboldened to reduce the pressure of regional nuclear arms race and strengthen the non-proliferation regime that is a greater step to global security for the united states and israel and all partners of the region. finally i like to address another grave concern. the deeply disturbing rise of anti-semitism all over the world that has already seen how the tragic story hands. there have been terrific attacks on jews. and is some countries we see
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the rise of government officials and media personalities spearing anti-semitic conspiracy theories about individuals individuals, israel and the united states and we see the rise of extreme right wing parties in hungary and greece with not to like hatred of jews. this is happening just 70 years after the holocaust. just 70 years after we pledged never again. while the survivors are still with us to bear witness. with ajc at the forefront communities are mobilizing for girlfriends germany and united kingdom we strongly condemned the acts of violence hatred of ground these sites to express their unshakeable solidarity.
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those that have faced -- have protection around the synagogue since denmark and sweden but much more must be done to make it a priority. the ajc release of a call to action on anti-semitism that has important recommendation is that we can all benefit from with a new curriculum curriculum, undertaking studies of jewish communities to block social media sites to incite hatred and violence that as you know anti-semitism is not just a jewish issue progress cannot be addressed by jewish organizations along like all forms of prejudice to open in societies of every corner of the globe.
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[applause] it is simple. we cannot and we will not tolerate it. that is why the united states is devoting more resources to embassies embassies, consulates under pressure and under threat and to push back against anti-semitism and earlier this year with the european union to organize the first on anti-semitism in history where people of all faiths it took to the podium to pledged to halt its rise. with that special envoy to combat anti-semitism has traveled to 25 countries in 37 communities to discuss
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the situation to find new ways to combat anti-semitism wherever it exists. [applause] >> for over 100 years ajc has led the campaign against intolerance, in justice, a false choice but for what ajc always has known what the world must understand the issues down defect someone else's freedom or dignity your safety, they affect all of us and each of us to undermine our security and our humanity to call into question the most basic values. i have to tell you that last
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summer at that height of the conflict is a cause i exchanged emails with a cousin is in televisa for cauchy roche to the family about living with a constant worry for her children training for the engineer unit. with a living with the fear that terrorists were tunneling under ground to kidnap or kill fellow citizens. to write about transforming the storage room back into a bomb shelter with one year but out of for years she could hear the air raid sirens living on the 92nd timer because that is how much time you have to get to a bomb shelter when the sirens go off. i thought of the mothers and
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fathers to send children off to school for military service or into our each day for the district -- desperate hope that they would be okay. those to face their worst nightmare in the crossfire. to share more experience of paying they enjoy and how it can be the reverse. this is not naive optimism but the of conviction the steps that we take today can make us more free and more secure. a conviction that the two-state solution is the only way to preserve said jewish state's as low as aspirations with that comprehensive agreement is
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the best way to prevent iran from an agreement it is the only way to uphold the democratic values on which societies are built. as they have for over a century, the voices of ajc are essential to shape the future to set us on a better course. it is daunting and was certain to pursue this feature with a confidence that comes from being with you in the very best of company. may your forces and actions always carry far and wide for those it is a little bit more just for free or secure for everyone. fate you very much. [applause]
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[cheers and applause] >> good afternoon we have come now to one of my favorite parts of the globe will form of the great debate reached choose our arguments abraham and moses among other characters with the great stages to engage in timeless debate even
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today there is little consensus in the jewish community on topics of what it would look like in contemporary times with the israeli palestinian peace process and even though it is better to have doctors and lawyers or which woody allen movie is better take the money and run. [laughter] it is the first ones that are speakers have reiteration in-house -- we heard from the "wall street journal", "the new york times". of the emerging iran deal. before that we hosted on the nature of modern zionism. to have the podium from the rabbi and other luminaries to give positions across the
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political spectrum. today's debate is no different and in a moment we have ari shavit and caroline glick come on stage we will continue their proud jewish tradition and that served the people over thousands of years. to take into question the two-state solution in a policy circle to increasingly being challenged romney/ryan the left. to believe it has the better of rand to have them proposed we have advocated for that. to engaged various points of view and discussion to revisit long-held assumptions which is us sign
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of strength. please turn your attention to the screen for some background. thank you. [applause] >> the struggle of the permanent solution of the conflict has plagued the two peoples for nearly 70 years. many american and israeli administration have tried to forge peace in the middle east. summer of 2013 israeli-palestinian peace talks at the behest of secretary of state john kerry. >> the way to end the conflict to summon the courage to achieve peace to have that negotiated resolution that will result in to states for the two people. >> they make sacrifices for peace including a 10 month
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freeze meant in the spring it ground to waltz with the unity government of polos. that was with the israeli teenagers after launch thousands in danger it responded with operation and protected edge there is no alternative to the two-stage solution. >> with the jewish democratic states with the two states. >> the brothers it is a gamble that they cannot afford. but we will not commit damage to ourselves.
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after netanyahu declared his vision. >> from syria to iraq and yemen. with the status quo the nearly 70 years after first with the read jewish state's is it still pliable or is a devilish and. >> please welcome our moderators. [applause]
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>> good afternoon. winston churchill once said if you have an enemy that is good the tissue have stood for something sometimes. today we're honored to have to opinion makers to individuals who love their nation yet to distinct and different visions of how israel can live with the san security is a two-state solution is viable or desirable it is my honor and my privilege to read introduced ari shavit author of my promised land.
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and caroline glick contributed adder author of the israelis solution. before beginning it is my privilege to introduce the rules to the lawyers in the room. [laughter] h speaker given the chance to make an opening statement five minutes for opening remarks then have a opportunity to respond to each other. reaches three minutes that i would give questions and at some point we will all been to the audience. in order to ask a question look for a the staff or you may tweets using the of #global following on line and also c-span today if you
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don't understand what i just said. [laughter] you can also #or ask somebody younger on their phone right now. [laughter] at the conclusion and each will have concluding remarks finally this follows then the great tradition with the notion to express their views and most have a tremendous respect for each other and for them. please hold the applause despite the temptation. but at this point by prearranged we have decided ari shavit will go first.
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>> thank you. let me begin before we have the remarks i hope they will be taken off my time. [laughter] fate you so much. for us to be here with the a j.c. and for me i have learned to admire the american jewish community with an organization like yours i am so grateful for you to be here. the second person remarque that i really hope to have a serious debate we should have their respectful one with all the challenges facing us, we should have the spirit.
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caroline let me sheik your hand. [laughter] [applause] i think it will manage to prove we can have a respectful civilized debate while doing something for our people. >> i agree the. [laughter] the third personal remark is just myself. apart from my beloved dead wives so whenever maya approach it is so essential with some miraculous state of israel we managed to
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establish. [applause] but now i shall begin. [laughter] before readdress the two-state solution we should have the one state solution. i wonder how is it i can go around american campuses to promote a one state solution but then with those ministers of my government. our enemies there not encouraging us to pull out now with the one state solution.
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the second point, of one reason the debates of these enemies of hours, the one state option though one word answer is syria. we tried the one state solution what happened? as long as there was so strong dictator the moment he got week we have seen the worst human catastrophe in the region. so if this is what happens happens, what happens to jews and arabs in israel? with all the differences?
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the third argument is that this endangers the zionist project. to have a massive majority with eight democratic conflict even in this great country with that context and that one stage option endangers with that zionist vision. but i do and i wrote about this that many attempts to
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bring vacillation - - solution and trailing 2,000 and 2004. to learn from experience to understand there is a wall there. but that does not mean we have to kill the option or the hope so what is my vision? that we need a new creative approach. i know there is not a two-state solution, we need a to state vision, a two-stage option and to stay
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dynamics -- to state options. that is my view and the civil war of the '30's we went to the camp david summit did not achieve peace but because of that had the ability. so we need to the to state vision, option to keep an open probe --. because it kills the
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possibility. i am not naive. i want security securities security. i hope to weaken as israel and does not strengthen there. we are not endangering ourselves in any way but keeping the two-stage options. >> fate you. either with their extra time >> that tuesday dynamic with some of plans for a cause or the west bank with those structure to the neighbors while controlling the destiny and maintaining the spirit. >> thank you. [applause] >> you have seven minutes 52
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seconds to respond. [laughter] >> antoine interruption. [laughter] >> thank-you so much for hosting this debate. and also to ari shavit to be a very esteemed carter or opponent is an interesting challenge to debate you. he is an example of the best of the left. from a policy prescription he represents the best of the tribe because from time to time to make room for those and uncomfortable to try.
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of the pathological hatred of prime minister read on the attitude during the first tenure as prime minister that hatred is tribal as policy is tribal to advance for israel. and as war policies to look at the two-state solution it is important to understand the nature of the debate in israel. on the one hand 20 years ago to win that ideological debate for the past 20 years we have had a three fifths majority support among
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israelis for the establishment of a palestinian state under certain conditions. on the other hand, fell left cannot win the election as leftist at least when the left coast to elections it will hide the fact it is left. so what explains that seeming contradiction and yet he failed to win elections? the reason because most israelis have come to understand through our horrific experience over the past 22 years since israel would embrace that solution at the court to understand the certain conditions under which we support the
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establishment will never ever be met. it is silly to argue how to make this happen and. and a waste of time and irrational to argue how to make this happen. mainly because the palestinians never have wanted part merely to establish a palestinian state west of the river. it is irrational to discuss to of finance the two-state solution because it is founded on the promise it is about land but it is not. the conflict with israel is about the failure to come to terms of the continued existence of the jewish
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state's with said core and the cause of the conflict why that is insuring why we would never reach a two-state solution in our lifetime. some to question the land west of the jordan river river, the real question that we asked that should guide discussion about how to content with the palestinian conflict to take as the given that israel is at odds but the policy question that we should be considering an all levels is how to manage the situation
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through some up piece of land based on the assumption is to give the away the land. to matched democracy was security requirements to extend the democratic rule of law tuz said today and samaria per car argue this not because it will bring peace but because it is just and right and reflects the rights of the jewish people with the justice of our state and it also shows the democratic values go hand in hand with security.
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and dancers the existential question how israel is to handle the palestinian security threat that will not disappear in our lifetime. because you took extra time, i will take less time. i am zero will then. i am don. [laughter] [applause] >> before allowing you to remark please fill out your cards if you have questions. >> i totally agree that the reason israelis don't go for the moderate option is the left in the international community to fail to address the silly of their previous attempt all around us. this is the approach that is much more realistic with the
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two-stage vision with that two-stage dynamic knowing that there is no to state solution no solutions. it is a complicated situation. but if i may i would like to challenge the option. i have two concerns. if we go for the one state solution we are endangering ourselves. once we are endangering the jewish majority with the great democratic controversy about the west bank demographics.
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israel itself, right now we're already down to the 70% to - - jewish majority in 2825 we talk 70% if you add even in 1 million or 1 million arabs we will either stop being jewish or a democratic to not give full rights to all palestinians we will not be democratic and free go down to levels of the jewish majority and if we insist to build all around where does
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this leave us? me either commit suicide are we go back. this is not an option and. the second problem is mightier for younger generation to endanger the ability to stand by israel the only way to win jewish minds and hearts is to prove that it is fully democratic with a small and endangered system. with that we endanger everything. [applause]
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>> first call as a product of the american jewish community, i think you are vastly underestimating the ability of this community to understand. i do not believe even for a moment though way to win the hearts and minds of young american jews to say we're sorry and desperate and bathetic and we need you is not an inspiring message. and it is not true. . . >> >> that is not the kind of message that people need to hear anywhere. not in the united states or israel or france were belgium or south america
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know where we're not bathetic. to the contrary we go from strength to strength thank god the cuts we are just and right and creative and exciting and we believe in who we are and what we do as well. though whole idea that i will not discuss demographics and wish we could not because i am not a numbers person but the numbers you gave quite frankly our interactive ari shavit. it has a 70% in fertility rates are higher than the arabs and we surpass them in 2012 in israel in when you add to that the safeguard of the vast jewish majority in the state of israel you understand what you say is simply untrue. as to the whole issue of whether or not extending israeli democracy will be a
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viable option in my book with all the problems involved they are many and mighty. but they are people love that israel as much as you and i do as they employ in their percent of israelis to then we can solve these issues. but what we cannot contend with is the challenge of the two-state solution to israel. love real to graphics my friend from the american jewish community is the threat of a palestinian state. everybody says there is not a right to have returned to
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the great-grandchildren of the arabs but the fact of the matter is that they're ready says they can move to palestine but they cannot but look at the borders of what is happening. we interested in the true demographic threat to israel the existential threat to is the palestinian state would be overwhelmed by millions and millions natalie the refugees but the jihadist to march on palestine the rehab place separate pens to me he would be killed his children would be killed in the woodsy the likes of which we have never imagined on the al skirts and with the parts that are petition under the tuesday formula. with all due respect to
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those tanis problems that they present to israel, it is a possibility of your other hand the two state is a recipe for disaster as we have seen. [applause] s we have seen. thank you. [applause] >> first question. before this debate began we heard prime minister net and i speak about his belief in a two state solution for reaffirming that believe. of course we did not include before the election. do you believe that the prime minister to support just a solution? >> i have been following it closely myself. first of all i really appreciate what prime minister yahoo did and in
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the fact that he agreed. he does not get enough credit for both. it is not trivial for the heads of the leaders of the israeli right to accept a two state idea in his own version and ago for a settlement, something that was not found in any previous. netanyahu head of the contribution to do what i talk about which is to capture the more -- more high ground because we had realism and morality many people hate us. it's we are not china. we cannot do the ukraine. we have an adverse of this decayed away on the one hand being tough, being strong.
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but our power has to be combined with morality. he has to do that and caps on the moral high ground. he did not go -- was not committed enough. i don't think there was a possibility. it was mistaken going for the final option's. secretary kerry command i admired his ambition to my idealism, commitment. i said this won't work. i saying i hope and pray that he's planning plan b. it was so obvious that what happened is the american comes in the town and the israeli and palestinian sing the songs you want to hear. much more successful. i wish -- i don't think that the leadership world in a
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circumstance we have we can have any new piecemeal sign of the white house left. there will not be nobel prizes. but we have to go for the alternative approach. rather than going the diplomatic piece we will try to bring water to gardens. it will combine israel's a meeting work technology the saudi money and american leadership so that we prevent the terrible human capacity that might have -- happened two years. think how that will change the dynamic. offering something positive. water in the desert, the middle east. we go to build this amazing city's this is something the were quick -- work with. palestinians go on a very long and gradual process of nation building.
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it will take a long time. we have to learn. but to leave things as they are with no initiative no hope, not projecting anything positive this endangers our unity because if we will have to use force command we might call we don't have enough legitimacy in the world because settlements have caused such damage. take so much energy out of the room. if we go back to the spirit to understand the conflict old and that kind of attitude.
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[applause] 's. >> you worked with the prime minister. >> in all fairness to prime minister netanyahu, you make clear that position of his government is that he continues to support the establishment of a palestinian state. i completely respect his right to do so. i personally think it's dangerous, but that does not mean it's not a reasonable and legitimate position to have. i do think that it is important you praise netanyahu for coming out command he did make significant statements and significant concessions in order to convince mainly president obama of the
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seriousness and moving forward in negotiations command we see that he got nothing. not only did he enough obama pocketed that concession and asked for more and demanded more. when israel did not give more israel was condemned. for for the 1st nine and a half months of that vaunted settlement freeze when jews were denied rights to property in an unbelievable slight and trampling, in fact, of our democratic rule of law civil rights of jews property rights jews property rights of jews because we are jewish, were denied's. because we did that we were supposed to be supported this to my show the international community the
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united states of america the truth and sincerity. but we but we got? nine months of the ten months freeze's they refused even sit down and negotiate. it's' release bloody offensive monstrous terrorist from prison terrorists who murdered our children's terrorists who murdered our parents terrorists to murder husbands and wives because they were murdered because they are jews. that is what he demanded. he demanded that from us. unfortunately the obama administration supported that demand. they blamed israel for not being sincere finally enough is enough and we would not
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go through with the 3rd trench of releases' who murdered us because we're jews. this we will not do. and we would have but did not do it because my mood of us refused to negotiate, make one concession. he made concessions after concessions after concessions, things that harm us, things that endanger the lives of israeli citizens releasing terrorists from prison causes the murder of additional jews. we know this. we we have statistical data to show it. the recidivism rate of terrorists who we release from prison at the behest of the us government in accordance with the demand of our supposedly negotiating partners the moderate palestinian leadership jews have been
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killed. what is the jewish life worth? enough is enough. we never get credibility for showing our sincerity. we get killed for showing our sincerity. [applause] and i just want to add add i just want to add, i don't think -- i don't believe command i don't believe it is a jew. i do not believe that it is the responsibility of the jewish people to be the only true christians in the world and to constantly be giving our other cheek. i don't. i don't think that that is our responsibility. our responsibility to our people and our responsibility to our future is to not give the other cheek, to say excuse me but you cheated me once. same on you. i have a responsibility. i have a responsibility to my people my responsibility
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is to my people to secure our lives 1st and foremost and then we can move out and see whether we can talk. the entire to state formula is based upon the notion that israel is culpable that israel is guilty. it is our father is no peace will be her looking at people who are preaching to their children that they should murder hours. this is what they are preaching to their children. this is what they are teaching their children everywhere. yet we are the ones who are supposed to be making concessions. i say no. prime minister netanyahu has said no because the guiding concept of his two state formula is reciprocity. you want us to make concessions. you show good faith. stop the incitement to genocide.
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stop the glorification of the murderers of our people. when you do that we can sit down and chat. so far 22 so far 22 years of this nonsense and nobody has told the palestinian people that israel is just, just the jews are just, that they should make piece with us. >> if i could -- >> thank you. >> i believe you might have a response. i hope i have some time as well. >> sorry. i get a little worked up. [applause] >> us to more seconds for you. >> i totally share your feeling about the jews.
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the fact they are people that is contributed so much to humanity and was treated so badly by such large parts of humanity. i definitely see anti-semitism and unfair approaches to islam and do my best to fight it. by the way i am on the frontline. sadly your message your line is totally ineffective when it comes to the frontline. [applause] let me say something serious we have to be conscious. we live in this jewish bubble. the bubble a strong because of the extraordinary success of the american jewish community.
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once you go out of the bubble and you talk to young people america's changing. democracy is changing. people's minds of changing. as passionate as i am my had to go out and convince people. is not enough. they hate us and we're just. we have to go out. go out for political warfare with this kind of sense that we are just right and everyone hates us bill used -- we will lose that battle 's. what is it all about? not to sit anymore in the ghetto and shout. yes. many hate us. but it but it is our responsibility
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to go out and work in the real world. we we cannot be different than any other country in the democratic world. we cannot do that. that is suicidal. if suicidal. it's so nice the feelings are just we are. we are just for we have to be smart. just being just is not enough. physically why were they released? 's that in yahoo had two options. not let him. what she wanted. one settlement. and this is the main problem because of because of our history, because of our fundamental justice, because we are in danger we
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sometimes go's. a becomes dangerous. the 67 war was over it -- our greatest victory. never before i never sense. from the lines. less faith, less of the land but more unity more determination command we were able to defend in such a victorious way. so much land's, but we were weekend. land is important. but land is not the only component in national security. [applause] in the problem with this approach is that when he tried to grab it all you
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lose it all. he tried to grab it all and you lose it all. we need land and we have every right to it. but we have to understand there are other people find a way to accommodate respect. if we don't and find a way to my reasonable, realistic wastes we are endangering ourselves in every way possible. and i say this again's. the major fight now is how israel is perceived among us in the world. [applause] we are -- i have no doubt for a moment. we have to speak like a david, think like a david and act like a david. rather than be deceived it's unjustified. we have to go back to being
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fit, strong. i say to people don't forget fundamental, historically, we are the underdog the underdog on steroids. but if we try ignore the facts that there are millions and millions of others jeopardize there right, not accept the fact that we will endanger our liberty survival, and existence. [applause] >> we are close to running out of time. i want to allow you to respond. >> look, i think it is important and i we will make this very brief. there is one aspect of what
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you are saying that i want to discuss. that is the issue of how we are among the nations of the world, how they perceive as the weekend standalone. this goes to the heart of anti-semitism. it's posited correctly the notion that the ability of the democracy to withstand the test of time to retain its demographic -- democratic character is in many ways measured by the tolerance and the understanding and acceptance of the democratic society. really though really though witness test of whether or not the country's democratic rule of law is going to be a will to survive is a function of how that society contends their jews how that society looks at jews because we really are the most vulnerable people and have been for thousands of years.
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and and so the issue of whether or not a democracy is vibrant is directly correlated with the level of anti-semitism in the society we cannot -- and the 2nd. i remember i had i had the privilege of doing an interview back shortly after i joined the jewish post and 22. it was right around the time i interviewed him in jerusalem. anti-semitic riots likes of which we had not seen's. they were very frightening. i said so what do you say what do you say to the jews of america and the dais poor
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that are having to deal with the fact that they are hated because they are jewish. 's i was blessed to grow up in a time when anti- semitism was still unacceptable outside of the background's. what what do you tell them? scared, confused, don't know what to think. they have to ensure the most important thing in fighting anti-semitism is not to allow the anti- semester to find us. the jewish people have always defined ourselves. it's may have always defined ourselves as the children of abraham, isaac, abraham isaac, and jacob. we have to maintain our ability to define ourselves because the moment that we give that right to define who we are's and what we believe to our haters the harm us. a week in us. they make is less able's to
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maintain and to continue on. so the most important thing he said were dealing with this kind of internalized hatred of israel's and jews as rustic it clear. not not to think that we have to change the way that we do things in order to make the haters happy because we cannot reason people out as something for something that they want reasoned into. anti- semitism is fundamentally irrational because it describes two is positioned as statements', actions that we never undertook. we are not persecuting. this 19 9698% of the palestinians have lived under palestinian control, not israeli control. when when we say to ourselves that we are guilty of the projected guilt they place on us the bloody
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authoritarian rule of law destroying palestinian authority we are allowing anti- semester describe us to tell us we are. it's dangerous and wrong. [applause] >> three minutes. >> well, i think that for ourselves for our own soul our own security and our own future we must find a wide way to change the present condition. again, you should never be named my address those tried-and-true.
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the 3rd approach that will lead us to somewhere. the fact that the dynamics within israel taking us further and further away from the west here in this conference's. the great success was based on this combination we are just that we must be realistic and must know and what world we live. we already destroyed ourselves our history. we have that jean and us. we have to be so cautious about it. messianism the approach is
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so dangerous. i'm so passionate what when i think about the founding fathers and mothers a shiver not only have a brilliant diagnosis. this he was going to try to prevent. they strike a balance. two leading principles. one was always to have a superpower on our side. first it was the british british, then the french and then this great alliance with the united states of america for which are so full of birth. when i heard the ways some people talk about secretary lou the other day one of the strip -- israel's greatest friends this dangerous
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approach among our community not having of gratitude, respect cannot survive a day without america. america is a democracy. if we risk that if we approach this respectfully and 1st of all i so feel embarrassed that this is happened us when we have differences we should express it. i write a lot about mistakes being done. but with respect to all with gratitude's if we are doing the kind of arrogant approach no palestinians
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them in a progressive americans the latino americans while we are in danger. is nothing more dangerous. believe me. their strong summer sophisticated. he will deal with that. the alliance with the west that has to do with other principles. it's always always capture the moral high ground. tough but he always understood that we must have the credit. we must reach out even one piece is not there. go the other way and find ourselves on the wrong side of history. we are endangering this amazing achievement. let's remember who we are
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remember how dangerous it is out there remember our values our legacy. the universal pride. not just about narrowminded nationals. in a broadway commend the jewish way let's both guarantee our values democratic identity and security and existence. they are go hand-in-hand. if it seems to be not enough democratic of one of the jewish. [applause] before it's too late but i save ourselves, build ourselves, and guarantee ourselves the glorious
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future we should and can have. thank you. >> i think we been told, you said in your way and were told often times the only way that israel can have a successful foreign policy, the only way that we can get along's is by continuing to maintain our commitment to the two state solution. the real question is how we can have a successful foreign policy, how can we win the hearts and minds of the people of this country, the people of europe and beyond elsewhere we are maintaining our loyalty to a foreign-policy's is based on
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a lie that the plo, hamas the arab world is a partner there is a piece process today. that is a lie. my mood of us is not a moderate. and you know this. we are in agreement, complete agreement. this man has never accepted any compromise with israel, israel, has never agreed to any compromise and will never agree to any compromise. he is not a partner in peace, and yet the entire two state solution formula for policymaking is based upon the lie that he is. the whole notion that we have a piece process is based upon the life that we have a partner. we we have no partner. as a result, foreign-policy is based on life. it's israeli culpability for
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the absence of piece. you get peace if you give up land. it's your fault. until you do you don't get peace and we will continue to blame you, continue to say that you didn't freeze jewish property rights, uterine aggregate rights uterine aggregate jewish property rights, you didn't area jewish civil rights and did not let palestinian murderers at a prison. it's it's all your fault because the reason there is no piece is you have to much land. this is a lie. the longer we maintain our support and loyalty for this basically anti- somatic paradigm we cannot go forward and explain ourselves because we are accepting's and anti- semitic idea responsible
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for everything, guilty for everything. we confuse than as a result people's ignorance of values' his attempts to draw water and make piece with someone who has no interest in piece to wealthy, to successful. martin ended telling us just last week that you the israeli people are rational because we don't move forward with piece's. what we see here and comments today about i need i need to show our justice and morality and willingness to compromise this is one of the terrible things that the left is done. they tried every package to their audiences that the audience's ignorance of fact
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was some sort of moral failure. we don't want piece's. you know when we say that the palestinians aren't that peace partners, when we say that mahmoud abbas is not a moderate not interested in making piece with israel we are not saying it because we don't want peace. we are saying it because we are making an observation observing facts and live in reality in israel, live in reality and die by reality. we have to deal with it, and it is an insult to us, to the israeli people to present this observation of fact observation of reality is a moral failure. carolyn -- >> carolyn. >> true morality -- let me just finish this, lies
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values in the world that exist 's. israelis's. israelis demonstrate our loyalty to the highest moral values every single day in the world in which we live. [applause] >> thank you for your passion. [applause] >> thank you. [applause] 's thank you for your courtesy. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen that concludes. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]'s.
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[inaudible conversations] >> we're going to get started. we have been friends for a long time. he comes from the community and will be part of the committee. i thank you very much for that. it's great to be here.
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elementary school, neighborhood association. we thank you all. we're in the neighborhood in which the tragic episodes occurred. let me just start if i might to let you know of federal delegation which includes senator barbara mikulski, my teammate, the captain of my team in the united states senate along with three members of the house who did an incredible job. we have been strategizing has to what we can do to deal with the problems that we saw in baltimore. we love baltimore. we love our city. of that of that all my life in baltimore. am proud of the city. we have to move forward. it happened in our city. we want to we want to make sure that we take the right steps.
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there are two areas where trying to deal with in regards to what happened in baltimore. one is to restore confidence of the committee's that the police are on their side. the police are working together. i have introduced legislation to deal with it. we have to and profiling in this country and our community and anywhere. i i have introduced some legislation that helps people who have had problems there is not a single person here not not a single person in the united states senate that has not had a 2nd chance. we we have to recognize our criminal justice system has not treated everyone fairly and give people a helping hand. it's this next -- this past weekend was a 2nd chance in baltimore. incredible what they do to help people who have finished their prison sentences. they also do a great job on commercial venture, taking
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old material from buildings and recycle them in the new products. we have to do a better job in dealing with the policing so that you have confidence in accountability, justice and safety and our community we have to deal with the rebuilding of our city's. rebuilding businesses. many businesses were badly damaged, destroyed. we have to rebuild the businesses. that means looking than what we're doing with the young people, do we have recreational facilities that are first-rate so that they can do what young people do. i don't like to sit around. we have summer jobs opportunity? that's a huge part of what
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we're trying to do. do. i want to thank president obama. he convened a meeting in the white house for federal congressional delegations with his team and had representatives from most of the federal agencies the the secretary of hud housing. we know that we have a housing problem. we know we have a housing problem in this and many communities in baltimore. the secretary of education because it starts with good schools. we want good schools and opportunity for all. the small business of ministration's'. i have been in baltimore. hoping not too far from here they were there, the department of justice was there. we question the department of justice on 2nd chance opportunities. very actively engaged.
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the key thing for a neighborhood to be able to be a place you want to live access to healthcare and make sure that you are not a food is. opportunities for healthy food choices. important areas to have a healthy community and neighborhood. what is come out the most that i have heard i think the reverend what i heard more and more is that those of us in government and can make a difference are we really listening? what is the mayor of baltimore united states senator's tomorrow we engage in the community? you know there are not endless funds available. resources were community wanted to be.
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that's one of the points that i just want to make sure that we reach out and talk to the people in the committee's as we go forward we are in sync. for using every opportunity we have to give hope and opportunity the people of the committee. i wanted to be here to listen to your concerns. i can assure you i will take it back to our team. working very closely. the mayor of baltimore. working very closely with our state team. faith communities working faith communities working with us. try to put everyone together. information that you share today will go into that equation so that we can drive. the last couple weeks i walked the streets. into the businesses, seeing
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what's happened. incredible amount of energy but there is a lot of frustration command we want to know how we can work together. we all have a bright future. >> senator, 1st, it is an honor to have you here. we won't share how long we have known each other. it's an honor to have you here. and some of us have lived here so long before members of these were houses before the school was built. many of us go back quite a ways. matthew henson is in the neighborhood called winchester. we are budding to what is called save them 's.'s. one of the biggest challenges we have had in the last few weeks is a civil unrest depending on what you want to call it is a significant number of our faith leaders to my
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significant number of our elected officials really were not cognizant of this area that we are in. many have gone to northern pennsylvania, gone to northern bolton. we don't begin until fulton we have 14 businesses damaged during our neighborhood. we had more businesses in our neighborhood ruined. but because the largest damage was done most everyone felt we have one of the owners of one of the properties here that the rest of the community had not been hit. we had 14 businesses. what made our situation different and i guess a little more damaging is we had no food market here. we have not had a food market since october. one of
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the small convenience stores did not have fresh fruit or vegetables or chicken. he came down the street and had a very perplexing look. i've known them all my life. and as i could tell by his face the something was terribly wrong. he said things are so bad we don't have a place to buy toilet paper's. the ones we had were gone. we have a plethora of liquor stores. other than that we have a plethora of liquor stores, no food stores candy
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stores. what we found was two days after the riots we're nowhere to go what to do. one of one of the greatest things that has happened to this community is matthew henson elementary school. they are educating children and have been feeding people out of the food pantry. sitting on the other side, the one who does it day in and day out, then a month out. she needs to quadruple her salary. hopefully someone hears this we we look at it and say how did we get services, good food bare necessities, to pace control paper. we have not seen anyone here. pointing fingers are angry
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or upset. phase a mentor for us because we didn't have a food market in the beginning it was compounded by the riots. >> what food stores here? >> stop, shop, and save was one of a stores. on monroe. as a matter of fact, if you get an opportunity today you won't even know that the stores there. been a good community partner for us acquire the property. we could not find food markets to come in and replace stop shop and save.

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