tv Key Capitol Hill Hearings CSPAN June 30, 2015 5:30am-7:31am EDT
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stakeholders in the u.s.-brazil bilateral relationship. thank you, devry boughner vorwerk, she's the vice president of corporate affairs at cargo and she will give closing remarks at the end of our meeting. because we don't always have displeasure, i particularly want to recognize and i'm particularly delighted to our founder here adrienne arsht. adrienne arsht is a position has -- without him we never would have done what we've done so far so a great word of thanks for being here with us. our work on brazil at the adrienne arsht latin american center has been a priority since we began in 2013. and because this is a promising and fantastically important but yet especially complicated relationship. the dna of brazil in the united states are surprisingly similar. these two profoundly western and
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atlantic countries both have roots in the pride of undoing colonial yoke and then the tragedy of slavery. we are both melting pots of culture. our governments are both built around a constitution, around civil liberties, around a federal system that distributes power to diverse states. we both have very strong congresses. i'm sure some people will say to strong. and yet for too long we have been relegated to think that a close relationship brings more difficulties than it brings benefits. and this worry about too much proximity has brought its share of disappointments. neither country shies away from engagements a fundamentally dissimilar nations so why not with each other works this visit we think is an opportunity for brazil and the united states to work towards rebuilding long-term trust but going beyond that also towards
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rebuilding a long-term strategic relationship. we are at a critical moment, the united states is at a strategic turning point where it is redefining its relationship with the hemisphere. resolve is in the summer with a major shift in u.s.-cuba policy. we see this today with the new initiative toward central america and by supporting a hopefully still successful pacific trade policy that includes a number of important latin american countries. similarly as the united states wants this and should have it is, we are at a critical moment in brazil's history. brazil is undergone afford social and economic development for the last two decades. the first phase was in the early 1990s with the stabilization phase. the second phase was a creative social improvement faith that brought millions out of poverty. the coming phase will be all about growth. growth is key to success of president rousseff's term in the
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right upper term in office, and it's key to our ability to move brazil to more competitive and agile positions. yes, both countries are at a turning point and perhaps this time we will get the on modest working groups at lowballed expectations. we are optimistic about the new beginning for three reasons. the tides number one the tides are turning and trade policies come on trade policy that both the u.s. and brazil. the vocal minority in both countries fears openness. that are private sector representatives, civil society groups political leaders in both countries that prefer opting for the certitude of protection, but the new technologies, particularly the ones that compete the ones that innovate disrupted they want openness and the opportunity for greater engagement. we are also seeing an increase in cooperation in research and
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development and transition to services as a driver of new jobs and economic growth. the united states and brazil are more engaged on issues of international importance like global warming human rights in the hemisphere. that is why we in partnership with our brazil fellow center are launching this report that includes recommendations not only about improve the bilateral relationship today in 2015 but how to structure and revitalize the relationship for years to come in the future. part of that revitalization that surrounds one player hoosier to speak with us today, assistant secretary jacobson your leadership and your years of service in the bureau of western hemisphere affairs have been exploded. you have excited us that have grown far too accustomed to being on the back burner. since you've been there things have been on the front burner. most recently we have watched with admiration as you simply
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manage the negotiations in historic u.s.-cuba opening. i am personally grateful for your friendship, and our loss will be mexico city's game. as a number of the team he will meet the brazilian delegation this month, your insight today will be invaluable. so thank you for coming to speak to us. thank you for the working on the positive relations between our two countries. so it's my real pleasure to introduce assistant secretary roberta jacobson would deliver the keynote address. [applause] >> well, thank you very much, peter. actually i'm really tempted to come appearing just a what he said. [laughter] done. i want to thank you and atlantic council for having me here today, and thank you all for
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being here. but in particular i want to echo peter's remarks about adrian's presence here today. i think the center has made its presence felt in washington and around the hemisphere remarkably quickly with very high quality events. my own presence excessive really really added to the debate the presence and putting this region on the front burner for discussion in a way that's extraordinarily helpful for all of us, so thank you, adrienne, for your support and advancing of this dialogue and policy recommendation. i also want to say a word about the report that is being launched because the policymakers were far too little time to read reports, but they are essential for us because we have so little time to be thinking out beyond 3:00 this afternoon, or tomorrow, we rely
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upon the people who can and who can step back a bit from the day-to-day relationship to help stimulate our possibilities and our thoughts in the bigger picture vision. so thank you ricardo, for that. i think there's a world of wonderful ideas and of all evil take it and read it as well. i think for the united states and for brazil, this visit really is critical but i also think of this entire year in a way as the year of the u.s. and brazil. for us this is the beginning in a real way of a new chapter in our relationship. we are as peter said, countries with so many similarities and we really are natural partners. in many ways in many ways it is really much more artificial for us to be intention and than it is
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for us to be working together. we do share the democratic values and to commitment to diversity and i think in the current world that we're living in, whether it is religious or ethnic strife, cultural difficulties, boundary difficulties, these are things we have not necessarily experienced recently or are committed to overcoming together. but our relationship has been tested over the last 18 months or so and there's no doubt that because of that, we look to june 30 as a way to relaunch that relationship. but the recent drumbeat of engagement i think allow us to think of this year as a way to kind of ramp things up preparing for this presidential engagement without the usual sense of maybe we will not meet expectations.
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in march we held our commercial dialogue and signed agreements harmonizing standards and exchange information on trade facilitation. in april the president's met at the summit of americas and discussed cooperation addressing some of the hemisphere's most pressing problems. i should've started that with the vice president's attendance and i was proud of both of those meetings, the one in january and with the president in april. in may we can think he was brazil joint commission meeting on science and technology deepening our cooperation on science, technology, and innovation. this week use and brazil ceo forum brought together private sector leaders formulating recommendations on how we strengthen the economic and commercial relationship. so you can see their was a pretty steady we engagement which i think was very very clearly set down by president rousseff on january 1 when she took office again. you all know the statistics on two-way trade but i think it's
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significant to look at the way the trade what it's made up of their more than 1500 products and services that to an estimated $109 billion in 2014. faq that we look at in terms of fdi and acutely investment are very large boy know there's a lot of headroom. we know they could be larger. so we are looking at as big ideas as we can to try and really boost this relationship. we are about to sign a social security totalization agreement, and incredibly boring name. we have about 22 or 23 of these agreements. nobody really thinks that title means very much. it's incredibly important that it eliminates dual social security coverage or contributions occurring when workers move from one country to another. this is really important because
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more and more of our folks are working in other countries. when you have workers from the united states working and brazil or vice versa, you need to make sure people are made whole when they retire and have their pension, or that they are not contributing twice. with trade and investment rapidly growing between our two countries would estimate this will save the u.s. and brazilian companies more than $900 million over the first six years. we are working together on the small business network of the americas. in both countries we know despite all of our talk about the big companies, those are critically important, small businesses are the job generators. we are connecting thousands of small business development centers and business incubators in the two countries. one example, to give a personal example of an individual, alfredo founded a company that supplies promotional display
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goods for trade shows and other events when he was 19. that this is number 16 employ tens or hundreds of flights. nice story. even recognize the potential for innovative entrepreneurship to promote community change any organized this event in brazil and created the first south american hub for the sandbox networks of young entrepreneurs. so now what he's doing is facilitating entrepreneurship training and advocating for pro-entrepreneurial public policies. he didn't stop which is creating his own company. he went on to be an advocate for that in public policy. we move on to the end of climate change and sustained energy which would be an important one in the coming visit. under the green ocean amazon or go am is a partnership with field extremists in the amazon. reducing cutting edge technology develop cleaner ways to make the world energy needs and working to support sustainable aviation the of the partnership for a
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government of aviation biofuels. we know conservation must also be part of the solution and so we are promoting industrial energy efficiency. so i think we know it's extremely promising when the economies of decisive united states and brazil cooperate together on this range of renewable energy operation and clean energy operation but as someone very wise we so set in the present covenant, we also know that when climate agreements have been reached got it is always been when the u.s. and the brazilian government work together. that may not the causality but it is not just coincidence. so need to be working together ahead of paris. the final thing i want to mention is that education, our 100,000 strong and the americas program and brazil program tens of thousands of students have seize the opportunities to in
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the u.s. and bring their newfound knowledge back to brazil, and vice versa. one such individual, young man named painter was selected to study in the selected to study india's this is scientific to build the program at catholic university in washington. he entered at goddard space flight center and was chosen from among 129,000 applicants to travel into space with space expeditions come and america cover. he will be the first brazilian civilian to go into space and only the second brazilian ever. we are now exploring how we can build on those kinds of successes and extend our cooperation in the areas of technical and vocational education. this is critical. this is critical for both of our countries. we move into areas like science and technology and health by education and technical training. so we know that an estimated 374 million internet users in the united states and brazil combined in 2014 rank among the
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top users of social media, and u2. we intend to continue forming the next generation of innovators. innovative like fernando, a young end of their from brazil to participate in the launched program which is an open innovation platform founded by nasa, like usaid and the department of state that provides support network and mentoring for innovation from influential business and government leaders. he is working to commercialize the award-winning innovation which is using chemical derived from oranges to clean up oil spills. all of those specific examples are just a few and hundreds that we need to expand to thousands and the millions, and that's really what this visit is about. taking those examples and making them institutionalized, routine and growing them so that the
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relationship produces those kinds of exchanges and human beings every day of the year. i think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship, and getting this relationship back on track, and we are very optimistic for the future of the bilateral relationship. thank you very much. [applause] >> well, thank you assistant secretary jacobson for the excellent overview. as peter said for all your amazing forward thinking work leading our efforts obviously with brazil but across the entire hemisphere. i think your remarks just now
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showed yet again i think what the united states is so lucky to have you as our assistant secretary of state and you'll you will be sorely missed when you go to mexico city. i'm jason marczak deputy director of the adrienne arsht latin american center at october 3 others with us today to get a preview not only of president was to visit but also on many of the strategic issues that we should be part of the agenda not only in 10 days but in the time ahead. as peter said atlantic council we are incredibly bullish on brazil and the many possibilities at this particular moment brings for advancing a bio that you are level agenda. peter mentions on the other panelist but you of anyone full bios. i'm not going to read their bios. i'm sure you don't need to do that but to reporters left is benoni belli, deputy chief of mission at the embassy of brazil when he brings over 20 years of experience.
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working edward from algiers to buenos aires, in addition to the is a fountain of knowledge. on the u.s.-brazil bilateral relations. i'm setting you up here. to his left is steve long a vice president and general manager of the latin american region at intel corporation. steve leaves intel's work across the region and is an incredibly forward thinking business leaders and one of the areas of most right cooperation between the u.s. and brazil. to steve's left is our very handsome nonresident brazil fellow, ricardo sennes. smiling with the introduction. ricardo, like steve come is joining us from são paulo today. today. industry time when it's not working with atlantic council, regardless to other jobs. is also the managing partner at consulting firm in brazil as well as the general coordinator
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of a group of international analyst at the university of são paulo. of the if you could get out of black belt in understanding the complexities of the u.s.-brazil relationship and brazilian policy overall, we would get a black belt to ricardo. we are going to begin the conversation today by looking at the state of u.s.-brazil relations and then move on to prevent the visit what may come out of it, acted with the future may hold for cooperation on a number of issues. one of the key question to answer today is will this visit raise the foundation for moving forward from working level cooperation to boulder far-reaching collaboration between the u.s. and brazil? i'm going to conduct this panel and an established format that will have as much free range conversation is possible and leave ample time at the end for questions from the audience. again this is public on the record. it's also being webcast. if you have questions please tweak your questions to -- as
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you want to bring out your phone strength event only for tweeting purposes you can tweak using #acbrazil. if you are feeling like you're in the right spot, just think this is the copacabana palace and as the blinds closed behind you, the ocean is right here behind us, right? let's start off looking relations. roberta, there's much talk you mentioned this in your opening remarks, about this visiting a reset relations after the brazilian president canceled state visit in the wake of us know that there. that happened october 2013 happened to be the month we started the study, it was no coincidence between the but there's been a number of visits come exchanges and working groups that have continued as you move forward. as we head into this visit in
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which every county mentioned a few, education, science, innovation can in which areas would you say the relationship is the strongest in which areas is about the most opportunity to kind of further build on some of the strengths we already have? >> i think in the end people will be somewhat surprised by how many areas we are going to be able to move forward in. maybe some of that is because things slowed down for a while although i would make the point that they never stopped. they really didn't ever stop there was a lot of work going on. it just wasn't at highest levels and it wasn't as high profile. the two countries do too much together every day for it to stop ever but there will be i think they focus on education. there will be certainly a continued focus on science and technology, health cooperation as areas of both presidents our community. i think there will be movement on defense cooperation as part
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of this visit. i think there will be a lot of discussion around obviously climate change and how we can work together in that area. i think that you will see conversations about regional issues, things going on in the hemisphere as well as global concerns that both countries have, whether it's continued cooperation in food security in africa or peacekeeping cooperation where obviously brazil has been so important in its leading role in haiti. i think there a lot of different areas that you seek cooperation on as well as some of the things that may made the prospects for new cooperation in trade. >> we will get back to some of these drilling down in some of these areas.
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might move forward on other issues. benoni from your perspective for d.c. the relationship is strongest speak with jason, let me start by thank you for the nice introduction and for the invitation, especially not only you but also peter and natalie, and i also knew the name and the brand adrienne arsht but not the person so it's nice to meet a person who brought his vision to the u.s. and latin american relations. as i was reading from your the title of you mentioned the new era of u.s. and brazil relations, i think that eric is too large. i don't think we need a new era but i would like to echo what assistant secretary jacobson just about a new chapter. it's not the first chapter. is not introduction. it's an additional chapter in a long book, and exciting book about friendship.
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friendship that started in the early 19th century with a genome the u.s. was the first country to recognize our independence. and i can't strengthened during the two world wars, resulting the only country that fought alongside u.s. in both world wars. and it survived the peoples of the '60s '70s up to the eighth and got boosted by the new ties of trade investment and people to people contact over the last 30 years. so we are building on something that is already very solid. i think that this visit will be a new chapter and main areas we divide into three baskets. let's say economic trade investments. there will be a lot of movement in this area. education, science and technology and innovation is another basket. and the third one would be about
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international and global issues. i think assistant secretary has already mentioned specific issues. i will save prices for the visit, cannot tell committee a list of deliverables right now but i think that we have, we will have a very good outcome in these three main areas. >> i think you put into context and new new chapter i think is important because we tend to focus on just what happened in the last year or the last two years and not looking at the history between u.s. and brazil which is incredibly strong. that's fantastic. ricardo, in the paper we are releasing today, u.s.-brazil relations, new beginning and there's a questioner come out of strengthen the bilateral -- you mentioned a number of issues you mentioned and others have mentioned investment trade education, trade innovation.
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give a brief, i know it's a 20 page report, i'm asking you to do it in two minutes. but if you can give a brief snapshot and why you think these are some of the issues. >> thank you, jason, peter, for the invitation again. i think roberta said all that what was the keys for these opportunity. right now and benoni made reference in terms of the new chapter. i would say we have a chance to do a new chapter but for the second part of the book, not the normal chapter and a chapter for the user portrait i'm trying to put this in the paper to express this in the paper. i think the potential for elaboration petunias and this i think is amazing. i don't have to mention this but since the history, the way we move forward to the west, all these elements, the integration the diversity, amazing, the
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number of similarities. we have a structural opportunity to cooperate with this i think is first part of the cosmic. the second is even though we do have these enormous potential for cooperation, we do have some political barriers. not just opposition from both sides but we have a lack of understanding, a deep understanding. seems strange to say that but we still have lack of knowledge between the elites and the sense how you build political -- between these two countries. i think this is a kelo but. i think we do like issues for the agenda. i tried to put this in the debate. we have a bunch of elements but the point is why are you not moving along? i tried to express in the paper of course we do have opportunity
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to build a new coalition. and as you said we need to start next day the after day after the meeting, the top level meeting. so the point is how we follow up all these agreements that we will have next week in washington in order to implement what is the potential. i think the key held at is how in terms of continuing to implement these opportunities. >> and that's great. we are going to get into some of these questions of what happens on july 1. steve, among the areas of cooperation riccardo mentioned innovation in the report. roberta mentioned it benoni mentioned it innovation is a top issue. we atlantic council a great and that's why we are so excited to have you on the panel. how would you assess the level of cooperation in innovation
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insofar as the business ties, the university ties the whole gambit was roberta mentioned a couple of examples. and also what's possible speak was first and foremost thanks for allowing me to be the private sector to on the panel. it's an honor to be here and also the guy with the smallest odyssey could help them from the sector. so thanks for the opportunity. look, first, so it will probably be biased because i'm coming out of from intel point of either of representing the corporation. we vetted history working for over 30 years, almost 30 years in brazil. we believe that frankly technology transforms societies, transforms lives. that is our mission statement, our vision, that's a we are about. we believe with intel inside them that makes it even more possible. in brazil specifically, i think we've got come if i can use an
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analogy to i think we have our toe in the water right now. what we tried to do because technology transforms lives, the brazilian policies up until now have been want to try to attract investment and tried to spur are indeed activities in the country that they would think -- are indeed -- ripple effects across the could you. while that's good a lot of times they are more focused on just trying to pull the private sector in this post having the private sector solve a problem. about the technology to what technology does and can transform the want way anything that comes out of this visit it needs to have i think use of the word whenwhat we could do on july 1 to come it needs to be tangible. we do a lot of things will be sent out plans a part of the metrics, what are the next steps of those plans? i think on information technology it should transcend the entire agenda because in every one of the sectors that you of all mentioned, technology can transform and make things
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