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>> and the way in which she put the. i think she's very generous and right to thank the foc stefan all the osha been have been working around the clock. these are very difficult event to respond to but i believe they believed that the coordination in britain and the people who worked so hard to we pray for a good job. she's right to draw on the experience of 7/7 and i think the point she made about the work of -- the way that could work was done to think about how best to commemorate and more these events, that needs to be repeated. she asked about the dedicated task force. at the moment this is very much the sco foreign office task force. with terrorism experts, with police and others. there will come a moment where we want to bring in other ministers from other departments
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perhaps including dcms to make sure we get these things right. i want to thank her for single right honorable friend for his experience of the barley bomb. is talking to victims families i think as we speak i think you should put a prominent role in making sure is a country to get this right. just about strengthen security in tunisia and what we should do. i think the answer is it is the whole spectrum from quite detailed work of making sure hotels have the security screening and capacity in place all the way through to working with the tunisian intelligence and security services to make sure that they have an intelligence led model of police and likelihood in this country work out whether next threat is coming from and trying to get ahead of it. in terms of helping the economy of this country and, indeed others in north africa linking with which estimate international efforts i think this is right, following the arab spring there was the
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partnership with north african countries. it made some good progress in terms of aid and money being spent on helping this country but i think there's more we need to do. we look at the security threat and the risks come at least the problem of migration crisis i think there is a case for using our budget and a more coordinated way with others in europe to drive change and economic success in those countries. we need to rush as for international efforts, to make sure we pass things like the passenger name record directed fully cooperate better on fighting terrorism but i'm grateful for what she said about the need on fighting the ideology as she put it to confront those that go along. i think this is right the greater cross party unity we can have on this message i think the stronger it will be a closer look at what were they can to get back up teachers and community leaders and other to as i this morning i'm happy to cooperate and work with the
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leaders across most of communities but they should be people that want to back the basic values of tolerance and democracy that we hold dear in this country. she mentioned greece become going to leave most of that for the chancellor. he is making a statement straight after this. on migration let me reassure her and the house we will continue to have that capacity and editing with hms enterprise to save lives and will continue that. we will and have offered help for southern european countries to process asylum seekers but i think the only difference between the two come we are drawing a distinction between recently in the most vulnerable refugees who are outside the european union and for instance from syrian refugee camps working britain can do more where i think european union is potentially heading down the wrong track is a relocation program for migrant already within the european union because i worry that will be
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counterproductive. as i said we've reinforced smugglers mall of duty people are in the first place. there's a disagreement with others about this. they will be going ahead with the plans but i think where we should be is helping on the resettlement and, frankly, pointing out that our asylum system already has given asylum to meet people from the most vulnerable areas of the world and continue to do so. she asked about treaty changes and keeping informed. yes, of course i will do that. what matters when it comes to changing the treaty is making sure there's agreement on the substance of the changes that we seek which, of course, will involve treaty change. that's what matters and that is what we hope to achieve and her final remarks, that we should work together with others in europe and indeed, around the world because the challenges are shared challenges. i very much agree. >> amanda solo bike. >> thank you, mr. speaker. following the awful events in tunisia, the dreadful and untimely death of one of my
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constituents. can ask what assurances my honorable friend can give me to do everything he can to prevent such attacks from ever happening again? >> well first of all my sympathies and condolences to her constituents. there are going to be many tragic stories about what happened on that beach and in that hotel and people come to terms with it for years to come. there is no country in the world that is free of risk from terrorism, but what we must do is everything we can with partners around the world to combat this threat, whether that is in terms of very technical things we should do that hotels and police stations and others, very high profile, high value work with government. but we should commit to do that and i said this would be the struggle of our generation. >> thank you, mr. speaker. can't i think the prime minister for his statement on tunisia and the measures taken so far and the measures that he is
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proposing? three generations of families and kept in have been killed in this atrocity. the impact on their relatives and the local community has been absolutely devastating. and, unfortunately, i'm sure that's going to be reflected with other families and other communities throughout the country. came the prime minister ashore me that he will take up the suggestion -- can the prime minister pressure that he will take up a. >> for dedicated task force to support not just a family of these officers were doing great work but the local authorities and other publications to keep these families special support that they will need now and for a long time in the future? >> first of all the case that the honorable gentleman refers to is absolutely heartbreaking.
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all of us have read about in the newspapers and no have at them and the committee will be effected as he said for many years to come. in terms of making sure that we'll families i think the first thing to do is to make sure everything has a family liaison officer from one of the police forces. this is being put in place. they are experts, extremely good at the work they do and they should be the point of contact to make sure the families getting all the information of all the help and advice and support they need. the next step ask the right honorable lady said is to think about how we're going to work and commemorate what has happened in the should be in consultation with the family. we shouldn't rush that decision but i think it's right is friday that a national minute of silence. >> mr. speaker, i spent yesterday afternoon with the family of bruce wilkinson including his wife who survived the attack. they think everybody was assisted them.
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they want a bruce remembered for his wit and for his compassion and for his family. can my right honorable friend assured me every effort will be made to get the bodies of victims home as quickly as possible so the victims such as bruce can be given the dignity and burial he was denied into the? >> i can give my friend that assurance. as well as tales of great tragedy and sadness, there have also been stories of extraordinary heroism and bravery. as you would expect from british citizens confronted with this sort of event. in terms of bringing people home, we've said what i said is that we are prepared to use raf planes they 17th in c-130s to bring home the british dead. if that is what families want so we're putting in place the arrangements now. it has taken time to identify all the victims at identification has to be complete before a victim can be brought to but we work as fast
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as we can to make sure that this happens as soon as possible. >> i think the prime minister 40 statement. we on these benches sure all the expressions of sympathy and condolence to all the family and friends of those who so tragically killed in tunisia. what occurred there and in other countries in recent days was horrific and not justified in any religion. of the prime minister is right to highlight the longer-term challenge of extremism and of radicalization. is point out the importance of getting terminology right and not using the name islamic state. >> here, here. >> will be joined parliamentarians across this house views secretary of state and the french foreign minister in using the appropriate term? does he agree that time has come an english-speaking world to stop using islamic state, isis come over i sold and instead we and our media should use daesh as the commonly used phrase
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across the middle east? on migration i've asked the prime minister about the shameful position of the uk government, eight years after this country brought in thousands of children in the transport window lives were in danger. can he confirm the eu summit the states agreed to take in tens of thousands of refugees? and can you confirm that the uk has still taken in less than 200 from the war in a serious? >> first of all i agree with the honorable gentleman and terms of use of the term islamic state. i think this is seen as particularly offensive to many muslims who see it as i see not a state but a barbaric regime of terrorism and oppression that takes the life in murder and oppressing women and murdering
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people because they are gay pics i raise this with the bbc this morning i personally think that using the term isil or so-called would be better than what they currently do. i don't think we'll move them all the way to daesh so i think the same isil is probably better than islamic state because it is neither in my view islam ignore a state. in terms of the numbers that the other european countries have committed to relocate within the european union these are people who have already arrived in italy and greece. they are planning to relocate around 40,000 people. although there was no agreement about who would take how many numbers during the debate, and it was a lengthy debate of the european council. i wouldn't contrast to that frankly come with the numbers we are offering to result from outside the european union. i would point to the very generous arrangement that we have been placed in britain for giving people some at that includes many syrians to many people from iraq that many kurds
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and that is what we've done and will continue to do as a generous and tolerant nation. >> mr. speaker, the prime minister will be aware that jihad is talk about three types of jihad jihad of the tongue, jihad of the personal jet of this sort because he agreed it is right that we address the threats militarily where we can but too few of the arab countries in the region are properly pulling their weight in a problem that is part of the region? secondly we must cut off the financial flows but we also need to name and shame those individuals and states are making and facilitating the spread of fundamentalism islam more possible? thirdly when it comes to information work we understood and the cold war the thought of counterpropaganda. do we not need to rediscover not on ourselves across government but across our allies to need to speak with one voice and with one message entity with the
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dangers they pose, but also and far more importantly speaking with one voice about the values that have made us who we are and the freedoms that we have what they are? >> i think my right honorable friend is absolutely right. of course, the art in part so military answers to what is happening. we do need to crush isolate in iraq answer your. the military action alone will not be enough as is and where to go after terrorist financing have to go after the terrorists and their to get a narrative that is not only shared by the terrorist but my point is that is sadly shared iq me to stop short of terrorism but who buy into the idea of the caliphate or the idea that christians and muslims cannot live together and just as in the cold war we did have to confront the ideology. we have to do so again. in the end i think we win because our values for democracy and tolerance in the rule of law and freedom and free enterprise these are better values. these offer young people are
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more hope than going off in being part of a difficult that subjugate women, murderous homosexuals and creates such murder and mayhem across the world. >> here, here. >> my deep condolences to those the prime minister to my right honorable friend of all of those people who have been affected in tunisia, many of them who were well check may i ask the prime minister join with me in expressing our admiration for my constituent, matthew chance to do whatever it about in the newspapers through himself in the way of the bullets shielding his fiancée in an extraordinary act of selfless bravery? they urged the prime minister to do all they can to ensure that all victims receive all the support they need speakers can i thank the honorable children for school should we all read about this brave young men and what he did to help save the life of his fiancée, ended his moving and brave and courageous and brave and courageous the measure would have moved the whole country i
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will get into guarantee will do everything we can to help the victims and the family took their people working around the clock to make sure this happens in tunisia come here in britain come and we will keep it up. >> thank you, mr. speaker. yesterday i learned two of my constituent suffered from the cowardice attack. they went for the holiday and now only she is returning. i was moved to tears after reading of the local press of her account of friday's tragic events. stephen was gunned down while they try to protect her so she could flee from the ensuing chaos. she is now in hospital with life-changing interest. my heart goes out to her and her family as it is actually difficult i'm. >> here, here. >> will my right of a friend friend assured me she'd she would receive the same level of devoted care and attention that she would not receive from the nhs here at? >> i thank my honorable friend for raising the stakes in the way in which he did the
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assurance i can give is that all those who are wounded and being looked after in tunisia hospitals come out medical team is on the ground and those that can be repatriated as medical evacuations using a c-17 with all of the technology and medical brilliance that we brought to bear with bringing catchup is back from afghanistan, that is available for british citizens in tunisia. and if it's possible to move someone to bring them back indeed to the qe2 hospital, and that's exactly what will be done. >> i think the prime minister for his statement. the last two days i spoke with my constituent and his parents -- still missing following the attack. there has been some public concern about disparate authority to update families in the uk about the relatives in tunisia. i fully understand that the uk and tunisian governments are working hard to get good quality
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information to families here as quickly as possible. so could the prime minister take this opportunity to set up the challenges authorities in tunisia and even in uk are facing when trying to trace new cases have been caught up in these deadly against? >> can i think the honorable lady for the way she put a question? because i sure all the frustration of the families and communities who want to get this information as fast as possible to the deputy first minister of scotland, john sweeney, was on the cobra conference by video link in scotland that has raised some of these issues himself. just to bring home the importance of not making an announcement before you have the information, there were two people who were missing were very concerned about what the term actually back in britain today it to it, but demands that we didn't know about. the reason it's taking some time to identify the victims is really twofold. one is that people who were on the beach might understandably didn't have on them passports or
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means of identification. and secondly tragically in some cases it is difficult to identify people after the horrific attacks that took place the attitude that quite understandably, the corridor in tunisia and wants to make sure that no mistakes are made -- corner. there's a full bath with a moment of recognizing the victim and all the coronary actions subsequent have to take place. >> tunisia's transition to democracy is the one way of life coming out of the arab spring. however, it is fragile as its economy and its security. so welcoming measure to port the democracy economic entity could aspirations will be ensured as aspirations also received support? but at the same time recognizing that by some accounts within 20,00020,002 nations have been intercepted trying to join daesh quick some of these are bound to
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have reached libya. there's any evidence that this attack was coordinated from outside of tunisian? >> foresaw can i agree with my honorable friend of helping tunisia on his political journey business support is helping tunisia economy and civil society. we will do that. i met with the ambassador there shortly before coming to the house today to discuss these issues. in terms of the linkages of this attack, i think it is too early to say. i'm sure that more work is being done now and if there's anything else to tell the house, i will come back at a subsequent opportunity. where there's no doubt is that libya with its failed a state and lack of a government has become a place where islamist terrorists have got a foot hold. other country in the region and the other countries in the world are at greater risk. >> thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, one of the victims
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>> here, here. possible. >> here, here. >> let me thank the honorable children for his question and for paying tribute to lisa. i can service it will get as much help to mbs the parliament as we can, if people want to know what more information is made public they can speak to the foreign office help desk anti. he's right in terms of showing compassion and sensitivity and indeed commonsense in how we deal with these things. there are, sadly, lots of difficulties in forming relatives, not least that you must start with the next of kin the person in in the passport and sometimes some structures can be quite complicated and relationships comforted and that could be another reason why that can sometimes be delayed. delayed. i know to step up for office and the family liaison officers are doing everything they can to cut through bureaucracy and to make the right decision. >> i represent a couple of constituents were on holiday inn tunisia but escaped unscathed and are not are being returned. the prime minister mention
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social media. is the greedy at the time has come for companies like google facebook and twitter to accept and understand that their policy a complete unsustainable? >> i think my honorable friend makes a very important point. we are urging social media companies to work with us and to help us in terms of dealing with terrorism. britain is trying to search through everybody's e-mails and invade their privacy. we just want to make sure that terrorists don't have a safe space to community. that is the challenge and it will be a challenge that comes in front of the house because justice come we've always been able on the authority of the home secretary to sign a warrant and into the focal or a mobile phone call, or other of immediate communications. the question we've got to ask, as technology develops are we content to leave a safe space,
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ending the 15 indications for terroristic unity with each other put my answer is no, we should not and that means that we do have to look at all the new media that are being produced and make sure that in every case we are able on the signature of a work to get to the bottom of what's going on. >> here, here. >> for the lib dems i condone -- heartfelt sympathies expressed in this debate about this outrage. given the possible link between the tunisian terrorist and ideology, will the prime minister commission and publicly report to that on the muslim brotherhood on the role of their teachings and going to support for violent actions against non-muslims and muslims of? >> i think the honorable gentleman makes an important point i think if we are going to successfully defeat this threat that faces us we have to work extremely hard to understand its true nature but that is what i commissioned the report into the
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muslim brotherhood, because that organization has an uncertain relationship, let me put it that way, with movements that condone violence. and i think we see the same with some who have transcended his pics of anything that be done to further our understanding of where the narrative of extremism is coming from, i think it's a good thing. >> does of the economic and social damage being done by the tragic conflict between greek democracy and eu policies demonstrate that britain is right to seek powers back so that we have under democratic control of the things that matter to uk prosperity and security? >> my right honorable friend always puts his case very powerfully. i think in many ways what this shows is that it is possible to different sorts of membership of the european union. we are not a member of a hero not a member but when it comes
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to cooperation over foreign and security policy, it is often britain that is in the lead was is arguing for sanctions against iran sanctions against russia or indeed a better coordination of counterterrorism policies within the eu gets we shouldn't be frightened of different forms of membership that and as i put a computer having a flexible to the network rather than the rigidity of a block. >> thank you, mr. speaker. can i join with others in expressing my shock and sadness that horrific events in tunisia but our thoughts and prayers go out to those who lost loved ones and welcome the steps the government is taking to offer support and assistance to families at this time. mr. speaker, the prime minister has been speaking about confronting isotonic is an ideology and a great this is the clock that is head of us. however, how we do this is up for debate because the trucks of the trenches comes today and last week is that as part of dealing with symptoms and
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causes, british muslims must step up and call out those who are privately condoning -- >> here, here. >> but will the prime minister agreed that most ordinary british muslims of which i count myself as one have no more knowledge and ability to step up to the plate and call out in this way that any other ordinary yiddish person? and witty first agree that it would be some acceptance of our combined lack of understanding of what this hate is that we all need to step up to that we can better work together to find a solution? >> let me thank the honorable lady for the thoughtful way which she puts her question. ..
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