behalf of jordan downs project fatherhood, i would just like to say this is our friend mother and sister. and we would -- we love her to death, and we would not let anything happen to her, and that is what i have to say for our jordan downs project fatherhood. >> [inaudible] >> oh, yeah. and eso1 we thank you for having us here, and y'all come down and get y'all some books and especially this one right here. [laughter] [applause] >> and thus ends the formal part of our program but you should each take some time, talk to some of these fathers one-on-one. there's such accumulated wisdom in this room, i can't begin to say. so thank you all. okay. [applause]

[inaudible conversations] >> booktv is on twitter. follow us to get publishing news scheduling updates author information and to talk directly with authors during our live programs. twitter.com/booktv. [inaudible conversations] >> but one thing they claim to hate that they actually really do hate is chewing tobacco. like, they're not kidding, and i learned this. >> why is that? >> i don't know why. it's actually it's -- i love it. i tried to explain this to them, they would flip out. that's so disgusting, and they wouldn't stop. i finally gave up dipping in front of them, but i have a son as well who's now 18. so i would always dip with him. and we'd hunt and fish a lot so

we're always on hunting and fishing trips and i'd always throw in a dip. and my wife found out about it and started lecturing me, he's going to find out -- he's going to dip. i've told him 20 times it's a disgusting addiction, and it is a real addiction, and by the way, girls hate it. but he always a watched it. i remember being in a convenience store in maine going on a fishing trip and i bought eight tins -- he started snapping it like that, and the woman behind the counter freaked out! [laughter] put that down, you're not allowed to touch that, you know? it was this big thing. [laughter] anyway to make a long story short, my wife got madder and madder at me. you really shouldn't do this, and he looks up to you. four years ago long story, we -- so we sent him to boys' school. he went to the same school that i went to and my brother and he has the same as my brother, which is an unusual name and my

brother was thrown out of the school. and there are still teachers there who remember my brother and my son shows up with the same name. we've been worried for four years he's going to get thrown out. my wife and i were saying yesterday morning, i can't believe he's going to graduate, that's like the greatest thing ever. so yesterday i'm driving by myself, and my son calls me from school, and he says i've gotten in trouble. and i'm thinking, you know, this is it. the one thing i want is for you to graduate from high school. be the first buckley carlson ever to graduate from high school. [laughter] and i said, what did you do? are you going to graduate? tense moment in the karl son -- carlson household. he says, no, i'm going to graduate, but i'm in trouble. he said i left a cup of dip spit on my desk. and i said, well whose dip spit was snit and he said, it was mine. and i said you dip?

and he said, yes, i do. and my first thought was, you know, first of all just to be totally clear, i never blame myself for my kids' failings ever. >> of course not. [laughter] >> and i really don't. their failings from a young age i hold them responsible as adults even when they're like, 5. and i'm not exaggerating. my wife will say what are we doing? we do nothing wrong. [laughter] we're excellent parents, and we give them every advantage and their failures are their failures. and i mean that with total sincerity. this is the first time in almost 21 years of being a parent where i had a little voice inside that said, it's your fault. you did this. but i had to be sure. there are a thousand different kinds of dip to on the market as you know, right? [laughter] i mean, there are an endless number of kinds of chewing tobacco. coken hagen is literally the most expensive and the nastiest. if you ever dipped it, you know. it smells like manure but with an ammonia undertone. it's repulse i. [laughter]

so i'm pausing trying to collect myself not certain of the ed, and i said what kind of dip was it? copenhagen. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> booktv recently visited capitol hill to ask members of congress what they're reading this summer. >> well i've, i'm a big reader, and i started off with "boys in the boat," which i recommend and then went to "dead wake," about the sinking of the lucetania then the book "kingdom of ice" which harry reid had recommended. and i'm just wrapping up a terrific novel called "all the light we cannot see" by anthony door moving into the "the narrow road to the deep north," which is another novel, and "the sixth extinction" by elizabeth colbert. >> and booktv wants to know what you're reading this summer. tweet us your answer