history book was i would say is the grand heritage. there've been a lot of great looks but this is one of the most well-known and fascinating books. you know he did a great job of starting at the beginning starting at the point when the settlers discovered the town in the area that the town had become. he breaks it down step-by-step talking about george crawford, laying out the original layout of the town and that it goes from 1880s all the way to today but there are a lot of fascinating pictures. ..

he was kind of an explorer definitely an outdoor

enthusiasts. he was the original, a lot of the trails were there and a lot of the national monuments he would have been the first person , the first non-ute to see those trails. if it hadn't been for him he built a lot of those trails. i think it's incredibly important that we have these materials in these libraries. grand junction and the western slope has detailed a very rich and fascinating history and a lot of these materials in here are essential to looking back and recognizing that history. it goes back to the old saying if you don't know your history that you don't know yourself. this is a case of that.

>> the opening line of your look , the black tea bagging that deneen borelli tweets. >> it's the truth and this is all the result of me being a black conservative, someone who is an independent thinker and doesn't follow the crowd. there people out there who don't like liberty and personal responsibility so what they do is attack me versus having a discussion with me in terms of what my views are and where i stand on current issues.

>> when you google your name and see that what you think? >> i think my message is getting out there appeared when people attack you they try to shut you down and that's not going to stop me from delivering my message. i'm able to tell my story and how i got off and being a citizen to being an activist for labor day. i also think my book is a great book for people to have a conversation in terms of what you can do to play a role. a government that is gone wild in our country. i was trying to be clever and creative and get people's attention and also the name is very synonymous because people are curious about -- what the book is all about.

c to negative comments come from african-americans and white people? >> there are people call me a token and acela the names i can't say on this network. next time i see you i'm going to beat you the f up in that kind of thing. and again it's not going to stop me from delivering my message. >> or from your book why people can be liberal or conservative in effect communism and socialism too. when i wrote my book my -- our debt was 16 or 15.2 million now it's over 18 trillion. we have government spending that's out of control.

something that america needs to recognize because we are in debt. we have to pay that money back so this is a burden that is on our children and grandchildren and future generations. >> think we don't have any option to have different political views? >> we do have the option and i think all americans should have the option of whatever it is they believe and stand for not to be afraid to be criticized or called names because of what their views are in police are. >> in your book you take on jesse jackson and rangel. why? >> it was the same message i heard throughout different publications in the black community. the blacks were victims in black americans need special treatment because of their skin color. they are still sailing -- the the message of victimization.

my book tells people how i came from growing up and working numerous jobs taking advantage of all kinds of opportunities and advancing myself because that's what i wanted to do for myself. i never fell for the victims blame game of blaming white americans for example because of the failures happening in the black community paid my story is that great for young people. you can do it no matter what your circumstances are or your family situation. >> how did you come to your book review? >> i was a democrat and a something my parents had voted. i can do a lot of research and i didn't do a lot of reading but once i started reading different things and experiencing different situations and meeting a number of different people who

had various backgrounds and different political views that's when i realized i was being lied to for many years especially with the victimization line. if you work hard and you persevere you take risks doors will open for you. as i said i have worked numerous jobs in some jobs i wasn't thrilled about but i always made the best of each opportunity and circumstance. i'm someone who was able to work at a corporate company for 20 years in manhattan, went to school for 11 years at night while working full time because that's what i had have to do to get my college degree. thank god i'm the first college graduate in my family which i'm very proud of. people have to be patient. you have to have a plan that doors were open and the opportunities are out there. i can't say enough how exceptional our country is that it's important for people to

take advantage of the opportunities that are available. >> who are your parents? >> my parents are still alive. they instilled in me a great work ethic to respect other individuals and to basically stay out of trouble. when you make certain decisions and choices they will follow you throughout your life and i thank god for my parents every day. >> what kind of work today due? >> my father was in corrections. >> and worked at the supermarket at night? >> work two jobs for 25 years, 30 years and i saw that. i saw how he got up early and we wouldn't see him until later in the day or the evening for dinnertime. i admire my parents very much for making sure that we got our education and also watching how they went about their daily lives to keep a roof over our head and food on the table. >> what do they think of you being a tea partier?

>> my parents are very open-minded in terms of where you stand and what my views are. it's been a treat for them to see me on "fox news." i happen to be a contributor and they get a kick out of seeing me on television because i have a huge audience for people and they also know the challenges that i'm up against because of my views. they understand and they understand where i came from. growing up as a little kid of course they know what i was like. they know i was a determined child and have my own views early on and was a little stubborn every now and then but i don't think they had to worry about me because they knew that i would make my way. >> deneen borelli you compare your college experience to michelle obama's. >> i compare because a lot of the comments i have heard and read about her is that she complained about black americans

going to different universities and how they were targeted and things weren't even and i'll tell you it's about hard work. if you are able to get into any school or even a trade if you're not able to go to college you realize that opportunity but don't blame others because you are not advancing the way you think you should be. it's really up to the individual to make sure whatever plans you set forth are the plans that you follow and take advantage of opportunities. >> why do you include the track story? >> is first of all that was my first love track and field grade iran's border fence when i was in high school, long jump, high jump the 440 no 100-yard dash. they called it the 100-yard dash back and i loved every bit of it. i was a true tomboy, love sports and i thought to mention that, i just think it's something for

young people to look at to really try to think about what he can do for your future and if it's something that you love. unfortunately i wasn't able to utilize a scholarship to go to college because in my senior year in high school i worked half a day and i went to school half the day. another great experience for me, again i wasn't able to go to college right away but that's okay because i appreciate what i had to go through. i didn't squander and waste the opportunity. i utilized every second that i could to make the best of it. >> the subtitle of your book how obama and the left are driving americans to the government plantation. first of all what do you mean by government plantation? >> when they were way too many individuals relying on government for their everyday wants and needs and with this current administration there are record numbers of individuals who are relying on the

government whether it's energy assistance, housing assistance, food stamps. the numbers have gone up because the policies under this current administration are harming hard-working americans. if you look at something like obamacare for example the promise was for people to keep their plan but that's not what happened. it was the absolute opposite and i've i have met people who have lost their health insurance. they were happy with their insurance in the doctor and they are experiencing record rates of their premiums. our hearts goes out to individuals. they're hard-working people who want to support their families. they don't want to have to rely on the government but i do see a lot of people who are in circumstances that they don't want to be in because of the failures of big government. >> deneen borelli let me do it attend your first tea party? that's a real commitment to join any group like that.

>> i'll tell you was a great experience for me to be a prime time speaker at the freedom march -- i live in new york. taxes are through the roof in new york and i don't want high taxes because that's more money out of my pocket that i could be using for other things and so i got involved because years ago i was in someone who is focused on politics and look the situation we are in with the debt and spending and government encroachment in our everyday lives whether it's lightbulbs you use or the car that you drive. i got tired of it. i started to get involved and it's a wonderful thing to see americans across the country get involved in activism because it is up to the citizens to play a role. it's up to them to look at what all editions are doing and what they are saying and what decisions they are making. politicians understand that they

work for us, the answer to a so is important for people who recognize what's going on whether it's locally or nationally and to have a voice. >> when you saw what happened in baltimore what would you like to have seen different? >> i found that to be very heartbreaking what happened in baltimore. the citizens basically burning down their own neighborhoods. i also find that a lot of the decision-making that came from the mayor and the local establishment in the government, they really didn't have a handle on the situation so it blew out of control. unfortunately that situation turned into citizens being pitted against the police or law enforcement. the situation should not happen. it was a local issue. it should have been held at the local level but unfortunately we had outside external influences became into that community and

exploited the situation and made matters much worse. >> have you experienced racism? >> to tell you the truth i don't believe i have and i tell you that because i'm sitting here with you today on this national network and i have taken advantage of opportunities that if someone told me know whatever color they were i didn't take it personally. i wasn't offended. i would just look for another opportunity to advance my goal in my agenda to get ahead. for me to sit here and say have i ever been targeted racially, i can't say that. >> on our morning show the "washington journal" on c-span we often hear from viewers that you are opposed to obama, to president obama because of racism. >> the progressives realize if

you are white and oppose president obama you are a racist indy with fewer are black conservatives such as myself, traitor and sellout. but they are not looking at her what the facts are. with all of the spending in the debt. if you look at what's happened in the black community and urban communities for example comes as one example president obama opposes school choice. why would you oppose a program that would help disadvantaged children get out of this cycle that they are in terms of a broken household or a parent who may be incarcerated or single-parent household, neighborhood that is invested with gangs trying to initiate these children? if you want the children to be empowered with an education so that they can think for themselves and be well-educated stewards of our community and to be able to support themselves once they get older. that's just one example but

there are policies in place that are harming americans and especially harming those in urban communities when it comes to education or job opportunities. people need to recognize what's going on locally and in the committee but also what they can do to turn the situation around. >> are charter schools popular and african-american households? >> there was a former board member several years ago in the children i met and interacted with knew where they came from from a public school where there was no control. the kids weren't accountable and the teachers weren't accountable. if you put them in an environment where it's a learning environment is safe environment where they feel they are looking at -- that they are being looked after and they have an opportunity, charter schools are huge especially in harlem. unfortunately in new york there is a -- i cap on the number of

charter schools available and the parents have come out in droves to demand more opportunities for their children because they know the dynamics from the public schools that are failing these kids, the opportunities and the opportunities are limited in charter schools because there aren't enough seats. there are lotteries where parents are praying that their child's name or number is called so they can have a hopeful future to get a quality education. i mean it's a shame. that's not something that is front and center for people to understand and recognize the importance of the quality education. >> deneen borelli is the tea party movement sustainable? >> with @>> deneen borelli is ta party movement sustainable? >> with that it's called tea partier not i think grassroots movement across the country and i have traveled the country substantially over the last several years. i was recently in illinois, decatur illinois.

we are talking about a weeknight that over 200 people were out to hear me talk about my book, my story but also to empower these individuals. they are concerned about the direction the country is going in and people are coming out on the weekends and evenings in bringing their children out because they want to know what they can do to play a role and people are being active and it's a wonderful thing to see. >> out of that 200, how many were black? >> there was me, that was it actually. there are certain situations where there may not be in the lack individuals they are. >> is that distress you? >> it doesn't because they go to churches and they have let them blatch -- black churches no. we are talk about education and

churches and come on out and you are welcome. some portion when they don't show up but i've also taken the message to chicago. i've taken a message to maryland, taken the message here to las vegas at the naacp annual convention last year and people are open-minded. they want to hear what we have to say and they also want to hear how they can play a role to get involved. when government is involved in our everyday lives that seems to be a trigger for a lot of people to stand up and have a voice to try to do something. >> from your book, the naacp is put aside the pretense that it is a civil rights organization and has exposed its real agenda is a left-wing promoter of all things progressive. >> they don't support school choice and again why would you take that opportunity away from disadvantaged children but also they don't support by

conservatives. i have sent them letters and i have tried to speak at their annual conventions. my questions are ignored by the leaders of the naacp and they don't want my message to permeate in the black community, my message of her small responsibility and limited government and that also blows away their myth that blacks need special treatment and that's what i heard through out the naacp. weather was a breakout session on the big auditorium where they had different speakers coming in. what was very concerning was there were a lot of young college students there basically breeding the next generation with the same mindset which i find very disturbing. >> was your reception hostile or cordial? >> there was one incident where i was on the main floor in the

exhibit hall and a woman came up to me and put her finger in my face and told me shouldn't be there because of my views and was yelling and cursing at me. it made national television and made the drudge report. she is one of many who think and feel that way but i stood up to her and answered her questions and she is entitled to her opinion. >> deneen borelli what is your relationship with jeffrey immelt? >> i can say he knows who we are, myself and my husband tom because we have gone to numerous shareholder meetings. innocence is with jeffrey immelt he is in the industry of energy so they can sell renewable energy products a really fair hiding behind the government. this is a publicly traded company mind you and they want the government corporatism to

help with their bottom line and i think that's wrong. really that's our tax dollars being used to influence ge's on line i think that's wrong. >> corporate cronyism you call it. >> cronyism, corporatism. anytime government is involved with big business it's collusion in people and to recognize it's happening. >> do with tom? >> use my husband and we are well-known a different shareholder meetings and we make the news and again it's another way for people to be empowered, to ask the questions why are you making these decisions or choices that are not in the best interest of shareholders, simple questions but they don't like to be put on the spot like that especially in front of the lord and in front of shareholders. >> where did you and tom made? >> we met at work. we used to work at philip morris and we met in manhattan and number of years ago and they

make a great team. we have the same mindset, it's all about liberty and freedom and we think it's important to educate individuals and get people fired up to get them involved in what they can do. we are just two people that we have been able to make a lot of noise and gain a lot of traction. we have a huge social media following on twitter and facebook and people recognize us from walking the floors of this event which is great and it's been great. >> here at for investors use seeing black american bassist? >> i know a number of black conservatives in the number of years ago i probably couldn't count them on one hand but i've been contacted on social media from numerous individuals who think me for what i do, think me for my boys. they have my book and they tell me it's been an inspiration for them to not be afraid and not be concerned about their friends, family or co-workers criticizing

them because of their way of thinking because of their views. i really think i'm able to make a difference and draw peopleout from being afraid to being locals simply because of what they think. >> how do you think the republican party is doing on outreach to minority communities? >> i think they could be doing a much better job and it's very telling because i see drive-by politicians. when it's time for them to get elected that's when they are trying to do their town halls and they might go to the black community or they might not. they're not really putting forth much effort like they should date and we are talking about issues. forget the labels. talk about education. school choice as i mentioned earlier. talk about energy which is something that affects all households. we all want affordable cheap

reliable energy but with the current administration the policies and regulations are harming the fossil fuel industry. think about it, before obama was present he said he wanted -- that doesn't help anyone on a fixed income, someone that is in a poor household. that doesn't help people who are looking at how do i get my medicine and i have to pay more for my electricity bill. that doesn't help working americans so what the administration is doing and harming hard-working americans. talk about the issue weatherup these people are black, white or otherwise but also what folks can do to play role. >> 2015 and several hundred people have announced for the gop nomination for president. anyone you are favoring at this point? >> i'm still watching but i'll tell you i want someone who's going to listen do we the people and someone who will honor the

constitution, someone who will abide by their conservative principles and values. when you think about it a lot of these politicians just want to be elected and stay in office and they will say and do one thing to get elected and once they are there we have no idea that this person isn't so i want someone to be true to their values and core beliefs. >> deneen borelli is the author. here is the cover, "blacklash." you are watching booktv on c-span2. ..