of help. in west virginia the guy kept flipping people. you see this on tv, right? he kept charging people that were one level below massive. then they would roll on massive. just, indictment, which i was reading again this weekend, that is what i do for fun, really need to get a life, had all of these notes quoted that somebody had saved, handwritten notes from blankenship. wasn't even emailing. he was, he probably had a quill and some parchment. [laughter]. >> on massey, i would say how traditionally prosecutors go after people. >> right. of course. >> and companies. but i think, you know, it was something else there. for generations people were dying in the mines in west virginia. this is the first time they went after them. >> yeah. >> you mentioned they were like

individual prosecutors within the office who were driven by it. >> yes, that's right. >> we're going after it and get this. >> right. and actually, i don't know him but steve ruby, who is the individual prosecutor that served -- i think his father was involved in mining. >> [inaudible] >> i really thank you. i thank you for your patience, and thank you for coming. and thank rob and thank public citizen and thank. >> this is the book, why not jail? industrial catastrophe, corporate malfeasance and government in action. rena steinzor, cambridge university press. be sure you get it. thanks very much. [applause]

>> every weekend booktv offers programing focused on non-fiction authors and books. keep watching for more here on c-span2. and watch any of our past programs online at booktv.org. >> for one, he wanted the staff there at every moment. he always wanted you at the other end of the line and he, i was only there a week or so. he was the second week. i had an office down the hall t was a large office because he set all these meetings to plan these programs and i had my own bathroom. he called one morning about 8:00 and my secretary, incidentally, call from lyndon johnson in those days, we had a line called the potus line. just rang. it didn't ring intermittently. it just rang until it was answered. you could never pick it up fast enough. he always made you feel like -- he said, she answered the phone.

she said, where is he? well, he is in the bathroom, mr. president. he said, isn't there a phone in there? [laughter]. and she said no. he said. put a phone in there. so i came out. and, peggy was there and she said, president wants a phone in the bathroom. i said forget about it. we forgot about it. next morning, same time, i'm in the same place, the same call. and he shouts at peggy. he says, i told you to put a phone in there! and she said, yes, mr. president, yes, mr. president. by the time i got out of the bathroom there were two army signal corps guys standing in my office and phone was installed. that is when he wanted you all the time. i mean i, and secondly, he, he saw, he saw things, always a way to do something or we need ad

law or we needed some help. trying to get me, one of my kids, i was in sibley hospital in virginia, in washington. my son joe had swallowed a bottle of aspirin. the president called, of course i just ran, i didn't leave a phone number. and finally he got to me at the hospital. and he said, what are you doing, what the hell are you doing there? i said, my son swallow ad bottle of aspirin. and he is two years old. he said, well, that's terrible, terrible. you know, we shouldn't have, we should make these people have these bottles so that little kids can't open them. and why most of us in this room have trouble opening our medicine. [laughter]. it is called a child safety act. but he knew how to take care of you. how are you doing?

elementary and secondary education. for years we've been trying, been on democratic platform to have federal aid to elementary and secondary education in poor schools. couldn't get it. the problem was the catholics were able to block it unless they provided aid to parochial schools. evangelicals and urban secular jews were able to block it if it did provide aid to parochial schools. it didn't make any progress. johnson got working on it and it get more complicated with the civil rights act of '64. now then we got this charge, well, it was going to be more money for blacks. and adam clayton powell, harlem congressman, chairman of the house education committee. and president johnson finally says, adam, you got to leave town and you got to turn this over to somebody else. some of you may remember that is

when adam clayton powell went to bimini. he never quite got back. he said, he wanted hugh carrie, congressman from brooklyn to build the bill together. carey was in district with brooklyn that had orthodox jew, roman catholics, this array of evangelical -- incredible clinton area. the fact that johnson knew that was incredible. carey came out with the idea of leasing books, leasing secular books and leasing equipment to parochial schools. johnson started selling it. there was a wonderful meeting with cardinal spellman from new york, billy graham and arthur goldberg, standing astride the white house pool. they were in their clothes. that is the hottest room on

god's earth. hottest room. and johnson. he is working on them. in the background is bill moyers and me and a picture i have in my office. it was so hot in there you could see the sweat through cardinal spellman's black cassock. it was incredible. they worked on it. finally agreed. it was fantastic. got the bill passed. then he said to john mccormick, the speaker of the house, he said, hold the bill up, if you get a bill, don't sign it within 10 days there is pocket veto. hold the bill for a month. and mccormick said why? johnson said, because i want to sign it on hugh carey's birthday. wouldn't have the bill without him. he did sign it on hugh carey's birthday. that kind of thing. >> how did he so much about so many people? i'm told that he had the phone number and the name of every

member of congress on his desk in the oval office with little notes about what they might need or might want? how do he, how did he assemble all this? where did he get all this information? >> he aaccumulated it. it just was absolutely stunning. i mean and, it was invaluable to him. i mean he, he loved politicians. he spent time with them. he knew when their wives were sick. he knew when their kids were sick or when they had a problem or didn't. and he knew what would move them. i mean there were, it wasn't always hugs and kisses incidentally. we lost, we needed to raise the debt limit once and, in the course of hearing it we lost the vote. we lost six liberal democrats voted against raising the debt limit. we had this meeting and johnson

used to have these long sheets, probably remember, of everybody's name so we would count votes, four against, undecided. and we had the six congressman. we are going through them and one of them, from westchester county, very lovely county in new york, said, simply wasn't, war was taking away from people that needed its, they needed housing, poor housing. johnson says, joe, call up ottinger. you tell him we'll put the biggest damn public housing project in the history of this country in the middle of his fancy westchester district. [laughter]. show him there is plenty of money for housing. i did, and we did get his vote. [laughing] >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org.

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