tv Key Capitol Hill Hearings CSPAN September 16, 2015 6:00am-8:01am EDT
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lobbyists to figure out how to make it work for them. of a $90ief executive billion firm, if i did not like something, i could go higher an accountant, a lawyer, and a lobbyist. the real estate firm i started out in, they cannot. guess what is happening? that the small are getting crushed. what is the consequence of. odd-frank? it did not fix anything. wall street banks have become even bigger wall street banks, better connected. thousands of community banks are going out of business. to get the economy going again, we have to recognize where economic growth and job creation come from. it is a nine-personal real estate firm, the family-old auto body shop that my husband started. it is the small business, the new business.
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those businesses create two thirds of the new jobs. they employ half the people and we are crushing them. that is not hyperbole. for the first time in u.s. history, we are destroying new businesses. we are tangling people's lives up in webs of dependence. we encourage people to settle in. we ignore their god-given gifts. we have to cut this government down to size and hold it accountable. that means we have got to know where our money is being spent. there have to be consequences for nonperformance. veterans die waiting for health care, heads better roll in president fiorina will not
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replace a single one. n last but certainly not least. we must restore american leadership in the world. it is a dangerous and tragic waste when america is not on day one, i will make two phone calls. ministery to the prime of israel that the united states of america will always stand with the state of israel. the second phone call will be to the supreme leader of iran. he might not take my phone call. he will get the message. and the message is this -- no deal. i do not care what deal you sign
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with is that obama and john kerry. no deal. until or unless you open every nuclear facility, every facility anytime, anywhere, inspection by our people, not yours. we will make it as difficult as possible for you to move money around the global financial system. we can do it. we do not need permission or collaboration to do it. and i will do it because we must cut off the money flow. with those phone calls, a message will go around the world loud and clear. the united states of america is back in the leadership business.
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four more years of biden.y clinton, we know what four more years will mean. o win this job, is going to require a nomnee who is a promise fighter and i you that i will wage this fight every single day. hat is what it is, it is a fight for the future of this nation. to throw a e afraid punch. i will not falter. need somebody who can do this job. asking for your vote and your support because i'm the best qualified candidate to win this job and do this job so think, for a moment, what it job. to do this the president of the united takes a n 2017, it president who understands how works and how you create jobs. ou must understand how the
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world works and know who is in it. know more leaders, with the possible exception with hillary clinton. did business and charity and policy work. she needs to understand bureaucracies, how to cut them down to size and hold them ccountable because this bureaucracy in washington, d.c., no longer serves the people who pay for it. she must understand technology, powerful tool. you do not like the server with towel, ms. clinton and they didn't prevent the chinese from hacking into the server. president of the united states who understand what leadership is. about hip is not position. it is not about title. is not about how big your
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is, ce is, your helicopter your ego. about service. [applause] the highest calling of unlock hip is to potential in others and now we house leader in the white who knows their highest calling of o unlock the potential this great nation. much, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] hank you so much. [applause] questions? sir? >> you're on the mic, that's dangerous. . [laughter] i'm kidding. >> good afternoon.
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it's our pleasure that you joined us here, today. blessing. couple years ago, i was at a gathering similar to this and the speaker was pam brawnedy. he was running for office in florida. and my comment there was that speak, my eard her favorite female public official sarah palin and after i day, i said, s there's a new first place position. carly,earing you, today, hose two are now tied for . [laughter] [applause] . >> well, thank you very much, jim. i e's the big question, am number one out of . [laughter] [applause] oh, 16, you're right.
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yes, ma'am? >> just in terms of our national debt, i read that you were saying if you allocated 10% of taxes, it would cut down so much billion a year. is that something you're really planning on doing or what, specifically, were you planning on doing to fix it? that quote.ecognize things thatople say aren't true, shocking in politics. there's only one way to reduce deficits. reduce spending, grow the economy. economy grows cuts down on expenses. the right pending in way, we help grow the economy.
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73,000-page ut the tax code. plansill hear a lot of tax from a lot of politicians. issues, bout the same social security reform, never happens. reforms, nevertax happens. we talk about immigration and border's been the insecure? 25 years. san francisco's been a sanction city? all the pages, all the complexity, i think it needs to be about three. why 3? because if the tax code is three pages, anyone can understand it. you don't need an accountant to tell you how to fill out your tax returns. comrehencebility is -- comp rehencebility is important. you know that in your bones. when something is so
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complicated, you need all these people to figure it out and that's what happened. a 73,000-page tax code is big business and big interest groups and wealthy, well-connected people. a three-page tax code levels the playing field. also, to your point of debt and deficit. whole lot less people at the irs. peopled a whole lot less at the irs. [applause] if you decide -- if you actually decide to look at the facts and say, wow, the department of education has gotten bigger and bigger and bigger every year for 40 years. of education takes more and more money and guess what's happening at the same time? the quality of education continues to deteriorate. money spent in washington on education has nothing to do with the quality
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of education. it might be an inverse relationship so let's quit spending money in washington and focus on the things we know are mportant to a child's education, a good teacher in the form of a classroom and the a lity of a parent to have choice, a real choice so their chance.ve a [applause] that not only helps us prepare causes us en, but it o spend less in washington, d.c. and, to actually cut down got ize of government, we to quit talking about revenue reform.tax we need revenue reducing tax reform. way you hold bureaucracy accountable is how money is spent. congress getsear, a report from a retiring senator
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named tom. your senator knows him well. delivers a report to congress, it lands like a thud outlines tens and undreds of billion dollars of fraud, waist, abuse and orruption and guess what happens? why a . nothing. this is professional politician cannot serve in the oval office because to do something with that requires someone with the ourage and the experience to challenge the status quo so we we what to do, it's just never seem to get todone. together, we will get it done. [applause] really admire you. colorado.in my question is this, when you get into the oval office,
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because of the last eight years, you are going to be faced with a number of very nasty surprises and so your focus is going to be, obviously, on those crises. to manage the ng long-term festering problems, like the budget and the regulations when you are faced problem?. kind of crises.there are a n is a crisis, isis is crisis. which is why, in the first hold a camp david alleys who our arab are fighting on the ground and ask them what they need from us.
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know, our arab alleys, all of them i know. they are fighting isis on the ground, as we speak. years.own him 15 now he's going to the chinese. asked the egyptians to share the intelligence and arm them for three years. we have alleys that are willing unless ur part but not they see leadership and support. here's another set of crises that have to be dealt with. it's a slow, creeping thing, but crisis. this president has rolled out a orders and utive egulations that are crushing, whether it's the epa that are destroying the oil industry or the 400-plus pages of regulation that the fcc rolled out over the internet.
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stuff, the national regulations board, on a partisan vote, changed the rules for franchisees. they wanted unions to unionize. political ut a agenda. a whole set of things are going be rolled back. it's always a leader's job, however, to understand how to balance the short with the long-term. you know, someone many years ago asked me to define leadership. the highest said calling of leadership is to others.potential in balance is the art of leadership. has to balance many and s, short-term long-term. urgent crises and crises you see the horizon.
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confidence in humility and what it's thingso alone. we need to begin immediately, hold at will not take immediately, our tools to cut size.overnment down to in this regard, i will ask for the citizens of this nation's help. i started out in my remarks by i admire how feariously you take a citizen government and i believe we have to return to a citizen government. 80%is a dangerous thing when of the american people think that they just don't count anymore. it's a dangerous thing for a of zen government when 75% the people think their and inept.is corrupt why do i say that? i mention that i believe we have budgeting.ro-base some version, where we know
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money is being spent because it's only if you can see appropriations, we don't talk about the whole budget. gets s how the budget bigger and bigger and bigger for goes back and y has to justify a program. justify , you got to every dollar. to get that done, requires congress to act. to get congress to act is going partnership between leaders and citizens. so here is what i'm going to ask citizens, as the leader, the president of the nited states, i will go into the oval office, on a regular basis, i will ask you to take phones. smart if you still own a flip phone, you have 18 months to upgrade. very important. . [laughter] i see a lot of flip phones here. important. you need to upgrade to a smart phone because what i'm going to
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ask you is this, do you think it's important we know where being spent and sort of move to some zero-base budgeting. it is a tool to reengage citizens of the process of their government. i know how you're going to vote. important is it people firedto get up and frustrated. a leader frustration and anger and focusing that pressure what we knowecause is politicians respond to pressure. how the bill got passed executives could get fired. so i'm going to use your common good judgment to put pressure. congressess 1 for yes, will act. that's how you get the machinery
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going. it will be started immediately, ut it will not be finished immediately. yes, sir, you are the last question. uh-oh. . [laughter] . >> let me shake your hand, first. .> well, thank you. >> trump -- go.uh-oh, here we i thought we were going to get question.ut that [laughter] beautiful person. 'm just saying what a mistake me made. . [laughter] however, i have one question for you. when you get in the white house, your husband will probably be there. >> oh, yes, i hope so. [laughter] however, what is he going to wear? are you going to make that
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decision? or him? [laughter] well, now that is a unique uestion, i've never heard that question before. thank you, sir. nd thank you for your know, i have to digress for just one moment. come up to le have me and women will say, don't said about what he your face. about yone think i care what donald trump thinks about my face? [applause] . my husband has really never what to wear.e on . [laughter] i don't think he's going to now.t . [laughter] his moment of greatest pride, and if he were standing right this, iswould tell you when he comes home from costco
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and said, look at this shirt i bought, it was only $9. good italian s a for pittsburgh and he's a man's knows his wife doesn't tell him what to wear. ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for your support and being here. i want to close by asking you to think about what this nation can e. what this nation must be. what this nation, i believe, will be. that every day. in the nd, i picture two of most powerful symbols of our lady libertycracy, and lady justice because i think they tell us all we need to know about the future of our beautiful nation. y, she standslibert tall and strong, as america must always be. she is clear-eyed and resolute.
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eyes from't shield her the reality of the world and aces outward as america must always face and she holds her knows she because she hope.eacon of lady justice holds a sword by her side because she is a fighter, a warrior, for the that have principals made this nation great. she holds a scale in the other all of remind us that us are equal in the eyes of god must be equal s in the eyes of the government powerless aliked and she wears a blind fold and ith that blind fold, she is saying it must be true, it can e true that in this nation, in this century, it does not matter what you look like. it does not matter who you are.
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how you starttter or your circumstances. every american life must be filled with the possibilities that come from their god-given gifts. god, in on, under divisible, with liberty and thank you, god -- ladies and gentlemen. thank you, god bless you. .hank you. >> on behalf of the city republicans, the e wanted you to have to take something back. you can't carry onboard because 'm sure there's something in here that's over the liquid limit. our residentse of of news together baskets hampshire-made products so we
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>> if we want to have a power house in north of england, can we have the government intervene in north whales and make it the center? >> when he was state of department, arrangement, in addition with the communication network that was delivered at least 95% for the house of whales and the rest of u.k. in
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contrast by the last leader government. [shouting] >> thank you, mr. speaker. i will have further such meetings later today. years ago they were flying over in the battle of britain defending our country from hitler's aggression. it was the birthplace of british aviation and makes me proud. will the prime ministers join with me in playing trigger of those airmen who have controlled
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our freedom today. >> i will join where many were able to pay transcribe out to all of those to what was not just an important moment for british history but the world history, british stood alone, the only thing that stopped hitler and how proud we should be proud of our armed fors -- forces then and today. >> i want to thank those who took part and me being leader of the labour party. i take part in many events around the country and have conversations with many people
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about what they thought about this place, parliaments, democracy. many thought that prime minister's time, they wanted voice heard. i'm sure prime minister welcomed this and something happened during his memory during that period. an e-mail to thousands of people and asked them what questions they would like to put to the prime minister and i received 40,000 replies. now, we don't have time to ask 40,000 today, and our role limit us to six, and b so i would like
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to start with the first one, which is about housing. last one from a women called mary, what does the government intend to do about the chronic lack of affordable housing and the extortion of rents charged by some private sector landlords in this country. >> can i congratulate on the resounding victory in the leadership election. welcome him to the front bench and these exchanges, we will have many strong disagreements, i'm sure, between us, but we can work together in national interest, we should do so and wish him well in his job. [shouting] >> in asking questions and answering questions, no one would be more delighted than me.
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i felt last week where we discussed a substantial issue with substantial questions was good for our house, democracy was very helpful. we delivered affordable housing units in the parliament. we built more houses in the country. i recognize much more needs to be done. carrying on with reform of the planning system, that means encouraging the building industry. but above all, continuing to support the aspirations of people where scheme like that comes in. [shouting] >> i thank the prime minister for that answer and i thank him
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for commitment that we are going to do prime minister's questioning in an adult way than in the past. the decision made to cut, for example, 1% of the rent levels in councils without thinking about the funding issues that those authorities faces, is a serious. i have a question from steven that working for the housing association who said that the cut in rents, the company he works for will lose 160 jobs to carry on with the repairs, down the line it will mean work convictions and maintenance and a greater problem for those living
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living. [shouting] >> i would say to steven that all those working in the association has been doing a good job. i think in our country we had something where rent came up, taxes had to go up to pay for that. it was right in the budget to cut the rent that social tentants pay because those who are working will be able to afford more things in life. i think it's vital that reform housing associations and making sure they are more efficient. frankly, they are part of the public sector that haven't improved performance, and i think it's time to be met. >> what happened yesterday in
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the house where proposal are going to cost 300 pounds per year of the families affected in tax credit. i had more than a thousand questions on tax credits, paul, for example, sent this very hostile question, why is the government taking from families, we need this money to survive so our children won't suffer, paying rent and housing tax of low income doesn't leave you much. tax credits play a vital role and more is needed to stop us to having relied on food banks to survive. >> work genuinely pays. that's why what our proposals do, our reform welfare, at the same time bringing wage, will
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get a 20-pound a week pay rise next year. i thought this was the new question time. [shouting] >> i don't want to blind the house with statistics, but i give you these two. a family with some on minimum, will be 2,400 pounds better off. second statistic, if you look at what happened in 1998 and 2009 in work poverty went up by 20% at the same time benefits went up to 6 million. we shouldn't go back to it. what we have to do is tackle the causes of poverty. get people back to work, improve our schools, improve child care.
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[shouting] >> there are 8 million people eligible for benefits of tax credits, they are on average being companies -- compensateed, and so i ask a question from claire who says this, how is changing the threshold of entitled to tax credit going to change hard-working families. i work part-time and my husband full-time, they asked the simple question, how is this fair? >> less affordable welfare system. now we see today the latest steps of employment statistics
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whether rate has reached again a record high, more people in work and full-time work and every region except the southeast, the sharpest are the northwest. what we are doing is moving from an economy from low wages, high-tax and welfare, to an economy where we were higher wages, less welfare, an economy where it pays and people can get on. let's not go back to unlimited welfare, labour to abolish welfare tax. a family that doesn't work shouldn't be better off than the one that chooses to work. >> many people don't have that situation.
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many people rely on welfare state in order to survive. surely all of as have a responsibility. that'sia decent -- that's a dye cent thing to -- decent thing to do. this is a very serious situation across the whole country and i want to put the prime minister to the prime minister that was put to me from gayle. >> there will be areas where we can work together. this is one of them. we need to do more. mental health and physical health can have -- waiting time
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targets for mental health services should not seen as a kind -- cinderella service. we have backed the stevens plan which can help to fund better mental health services among other things. there are problems in mental health services, we make that commitment. i make this point to him, we will not have strong nhs if we don't have strong government. [shouting] >> they will wreck the economic security of our country and the family security of every family in our country. we wouldn't be able to afford a strong nhs without a strong economy. [shouting] >> if i could take the prime minister to the situation of
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mental health, i agree with him on service. i hope that the spending commitment go forward, the crisis is a very serious one. we know from our constituents. i ask the question from angela, she knows exactly what she is talking about. people rougherring serious -- suffering serious mental health, the situation simply unacceptable. what does the prime minister say to angela, people like her who work so hard in the mental health services or people going to mental health services watching us today. i want to know we take serious
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and that we as a associate society take seriously and we are going to help them and take care of them. what does the prime minister say to angela? >> all of those suffering from mental health conditions, is that we need to do more as a country to help mental health. money into the service, which we will deliver. it changes mental health conditions. frankly, so is important the service that people get when they visit their gp. many people go to gp, have mental health conditions. they don't get access to therapist that are increasing to be made available. my argument is put in resources, change the way nhs works, change
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attitude because that's vital, we wouldn't be able to do these things without the strong economy that we built in the last five years. [shouting] >> is having difficulty import ing, now kept for isolation despite belgium being free, breaking through the bureaucratic -- >> i will certainly do anything to help. [shouting] [inaudible conversations] >> the point is this, we will help with with animal and plant
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health agency. i had a case just like this where they wanted to bring a rhino and i intervened. they named her nancy like my daughter. i hope this tiger is also as effective. [laughs] >> may i began by congratulating the leader, we look forward working with him. we hope peace will join him. one year ago today -- [shouting] >> one year today, the prime minister made opposed to people
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where promises were made to deliver home -- however, former prime minister gordan says government is falling short and when will the prime minister deliver to the promises of scottland? >> we have delivered on all the promises we made. we said we would introduce a bill, we introduced a bill. we said that we provide those welfare powers, we've given those welfare powers. the question is now when are you going to stop talking or what taxes you are going to put up. when it comes to talking about the issues -- [shouting] >> very interesting.
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whatever happened to the new style of -- [shouting] >> mr. speaker, it's not being fully delivered as the scottish union congress. enabled scottland, not enough welfare powers, only 9% of people in scottland believe that it has been delivered. not one single amendment has been accepted by the government in the scottland bill. mr. speaker, will not go down well in scottland. may i ask the prime minister in his new style of answering, when will he deliver on the promises that were made to the people of
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scottland? >> of course, it's a bit of getting used to but let me answer very calmly. what i noticed from the question is that he hasn't given me one single example of where -- if he can point to a tax we promised i would accept it. if he can point to a welfare change we promised, i will accept it. he hasn't done those things. all he's doing is continuing an argument because he doesn't want to talk about the substance. you give me a list -- he should give a list of things promised and not delivered and we will have a reasonable conversation. [shouting] >> again, mr. speaker, the prime minister has a lot to be pleased
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[shouting] >> it also gave to him and the world which was first designed and produced. this week we continued to entrepreneurial spirit. would the prime minister agree with me that should benefit from new jobses -- jobs and infrastructure? >> i think you're right. long-term youth unemployment is down. the point he makes about areas that take extra housing and getting the opportunity for more infrastructure, it is right. so, yes, ever since -- [shouting]
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>> public service workers, are going to get a 1% for the next five years. what is it with these people that this government -- [shouting] >> first of all, what we have been is trying to protect the services and the jobs and as a direct impact if you simply add pie raise. of course, today inflation is 0%. of course, what he fails to mention is payment that's in the health service has delivered year on year for many hard-working people that i want
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to see rewarded. there's something else we can do, which is to cut the taxes and keeping public spending under control. we are able to say to everyone in the public sector, you can earn 11,000 pounds before you start paying any income tax at all. that has been a pay rise for 50 million working people. >> thank you, mr. speaker. following prime minister, peace, love and harmony is broken out. members on both sides of the house -- [shouting] >> would the prime minister and the central role and the
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economic security? >> i think it's excellent that we have proposal and i think it's very good that a number of different ideas have come forward. now, the most important thing is for people to come together and this is coming and to drive our economy to power house. >> thank you, mr. speaker. my constituents who is 11-year-old suffered from syndrome, this disease, leads to abnormal development of the bones and the moment it's not cured, most unlikely -- would
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the prime minister do all he can for speedy decisions for people like her? >> absolutely right to raise the case of particular illness or drug that other members have raised as well. i will continue to do all can to ensure so they reach a speedy decision. we need to have a dialogue with drug companies because of the vast prices being charged for some of these drugs and to say, you know, there are implications, we need to bring those costs down to make available more quickly. [shouting] >> after inspection of hospital,
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can the prime minister assure me that all that we have been done to turn things around so my constituents can have fully function ane? >> there's also a hospital difficulty, what we've done in these circumstances instead of trying to push that under the carpet a team to turn it around and improve performance and more work needs to be done. it will continue investing in the hospital or working in the hospital to make sure it can provide the services that her constituents deserve. >> the general election, prime minister promised 10 pounds, my constituent resigned not least, how much more damage has to be
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done in the nhs before the prime minister coughs up? >> it mentioned the general election and the general election, our party stood on the proposal of 8 billion bounds more in nhs and effectively 10 billion pounds and we set every penny that it's coming from. [shouting] >> they did not masm -- max the steven's plan. it is the conserve party that will deliver. >> thank you, mr. speaker. in a world in which we have a north korea, aggressive russia, and the pure evil of the so-called islamic states, would the prime minister agree with me that step up security and way of
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life, we simply must have an independent nuclear -- [shouting] >> in terms of defense, this is the most important duty for a government and for a prime minister, and the cornerstone of our defense will remain at 2% spending that we committed with increased defense budget in the parliament, membership of nato and ultimate insurance policy in what is a dangerous world. the fact that the labour party is turning away, we will never fall short. [shouting] >> thank you, mr. speaker. in memory of robert broadford, anthony berry, murdered by terrorists as they stood up for
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democracy, the head-stones, opposition leader that terrorists should be honored, would the prime minister join with all of us -- on behalf of the innocent innocents and bravery of the armed forces who stood against the terrorists. [shouting] >> i think from the reaction, he has spoken for many, many in this house and i will say many, many, the overwhelming majority of people t vast majority of people in the country. first member of parliament i can remember because our member of parliament. fist politicians i wrote a speech for and more kind and
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gentle rrk. i-- gentler. it was never justified and people who seek to justify should be ashame of themselves. >> thank you, mr. speaker. they are in the bottom fife in schools when it comes to education authorities and funding for people. i welcome this government's commitments to a fairer funding formula. does the prime minister recognize the importance of funding and the needs to be implemented as quickly as possible to ensure world-class education for our children and perhaps know the importance of national anthem. >> makes a very important point, very strong call on both sides to make sure we address the
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fairness in terms of funding. what we did is allocate for funding and authorities, did benefit from that receiving 3.1 million, 3.2 respectively. i want us to do everything we can to make the funding fairer. >> thank you, mr. speaker. my constituency has reached half million mark breaking u.k. records. i'm sure the house will join me and prime minister in congratulating on the great achievement. mr. speaker, in the workforce with fantastic outcome. why does the prime minister attack worker's right, enforce
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the good -- >> let me agree that achievements of ms. ann are remarkable. i think i'm right in saying that the northeast of england now produces more cars than italy. we will manufacture trains as well. it's not what he says it is. we want to make sure that we don't have strike based on very low turnouts. that was two years out of date and only 27% of people turned up to vote in that ballot. you have working parents all over the country having to keep their children at home when they should be getting the public service that they paid for.
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that's what our bill is about and i hope you have support across. [shouting] >> the bravery of all service of men and women is beyond yes. the bravest of the brave those who pay the invisible bullets of ebola, both houses and the great -- medical workers who did our bidding in west africa. >> i'm delighted to join me friend. the reason i held a a reception. whether it's the nurses, volunteers, it really is remarkable what they've done. great work has been done by the
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people of sierra león, we have good armed forces and is something the whole country can be proud of. this is exactly the use of our budget while doing it with more reinforce and moral conscious and for those who wonder uses of troops, get them out and look at sierra león. [shouting] >> u.k. vital strategic to the economy, will prime minister meet with me, steel work union community so we can look at more positive when supporting our industry and protect it in which way european governments do.
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everyone is concerned, obviously we taken and provided 13 million pounds in support of high energy uses and also by setting infrastructure plan, we getting a sense of demand in the months and years to come. the best sort of meeting we can have in order to make sure we do everything we can to keep steel -- [shouting] >> this government commitment spent 2% to protect nationals and economic future by giving armed forces and financial support they need to protect our nation security. [shouting] >> we have had to make difficult decisions in the spending review and we will have to make further difficult decisions, but the decision to increase defense
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book tv. >> the heads of several law enforcement and intelligence agencies including cia director john brenon testified at a house intelligence committee about global threats to computer networks and recent data breaches of personnel management. this hour, 45 minute hearing begins. >> i want to thank director. [inaudible conversations] >> i guess the witnesses are not here yet, but -- [laughs] >> but i still would like to think the director for this morning's hearing on worldwide cyber threats. we know that all of the witness' time is very valuable so i'll
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keep comments brief. it has hosted a worldwide hearing to educate the public as current dangerous we face as well as showcase how to combat threats. over the last several years, cyber attacks have become a common place in the united states, home depot, target, jp morgan have been subject to major attacks. but these are just the breaches we hear in the news. there are many more both large and small occurring across the nation. the u.s. government is certainly not immune, pentagon, irs, joint staff and just this morning we learned the department of energy was successfully hacked 159 times.
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this high-profile assault in threat. i share the public's concern. i learned that the it uses to allow to protect critical infrastructure has not had a security audit since 2006. this raises many questions which many representatives believe should be at the heart of security. we will be requesting information regarding cyber security practices and procedures in the coming months. the government should not think to impose standards on private sector before it can maintain of its own security system. we must ensure that the government voled in the sharing process are absolutely cured specially if we allow private sector share with one government
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dhs. another breech is exposed with impolitic cases to privacy and national security. the time has come to put politics aside and give tools to defend from malicious attacks. with that i'll yield. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and thank you directors for joining us. thank you for your service in the country. i'm pleased that we are holding the hearing in open session. it's telling that our committee open hearings this year has been focused on cyber, the challenge of securing networks and related issues of encryption and terrorist use of social media are among the most matter to our success. we see hacks of sony pictures, health insurance providers, devastating hack in the office
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of personnel management. these they instances in the context of other intrusions every day show potential threat scale to national security. there are no simple answers to these problems. some of the steps we can take to secure our data and privacy can have unattended consequences. a good example are efforts to make our networks for private and more secured by using per -- encryption. the broader adoption of strong encryption, however, particularly communications can simultaneously allow terrorists and criminal to ponder ways that law enforcement and intelligence community cannot access even with a valid warrant. social media has proven a force throughout the world, but is now increasing being used by groups like isis to spread messages of
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violence. the question is what we do about cyber security, the unattended consequences of encryption and use of social media to radical ize, i don't profess to know all the answers. last week i went to sill connecticut -- silicon valley. we in dc just can't tell tech to figure it out. in these discussions government must recognize sex sector
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addressing these issues. at the same time needs for privacy, law enforcement and intelligence personnel to keep us safe tanned -- and the industry from hackers. collaboration should take place on a technical level, continue to partner within universities through cyber challenges to develop safer and more secured technologies and to deepens the country literacy. second, government must make ownership of private security. third, we must grow cyber experts. we must invest and attract the best and the brightest to work
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on the security. the revolution was made possible through art and science. those who can identify the need and fill it. we must keep in mind as we develop our bench of cyber experts. fourth, proportionate responses to foreign nation cyber attacks and intrusions. for example, sony in north korea and the consequences of future of attacks and cyber action. fifth, we need to advance legislation. our cyber information-sharing bill to protecting cyber networks act will do exactly that. it will allow private industry to share malware. there are public cyber information sharing arrangements which are proving imvaluable or
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among the private sector. this legislation, which has passed the house and is waiting action in the senate will allow models to go nationwide. the threat of cyber attack presence no easily solution. defense is expensive and far more complex. communications that secure our privacy can be used by threat of our security and social networks designed to bring us together, try to tear us apart. we can take steps to better secure both public and private networks from intrusion in order to save lives. i thank you, mr. chairman, and yield back. the shairm of that committee i
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others are included a threat to our economy, our privacy and our national security. in recent years we've witnessed the theft of our nation's industrial secrets, attacks on our financial institutions, and much more. while it is important to keep sensitive programs classified, these types of hearings provide much-needed education to the public. i want to commend the chairman for having this hearing. we are only as strong as our weakest link, and the security of our networks is all of our responsibilities. again i would like to thank the witnesses for coming today, taking your time out, but also the part that you play protectee our national security. i look forward to during your testimony and working together with each and every one of you to make sure that our nation is safe against any cyberattacks. thank you.
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>> gentleman yield to back. i'd like to introduce the ranking member, mr. himes, for an opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you all for coming and participating in the opening on a really important topic. i've had a chance to review the testimony and i know we'll hear about the rest, the cost and the players associated with these cyberattacks. we should do all we can and i think the chairman and the ranking member have laid out a whole variety of things we should be doing. what i don't hear anyone want to spend just a couple minutes on this morning because i think it's really critical, essential, and we commit ourselves as a country to force and lead the establishment of some rules of the road internationally on how warfare is, and crime frankly, is conducted in the cyber realm. we don't know today what constitutes an act of war. we don't know what an
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appropriate response is. we don't know where the line is drawn between crime and warfare. this is something we should be leaving on. something that perhaps is analogous to the geneva accords which have existed for almost 150 years and worked on international 150 years. there is currently no comparable effort to set something like that treaty up so that we all understand the rules of the road. admiral rogers, we had a brief exchange on this in an open hearing a couple months ago and you assured me this was, in fact, something that was on all undermines but it just don't see much but i don't do much. why is this important? again, the questions don't have ready answers. a still classified information from us and active for or is it just an act of espionage that we do to each other and maybe we even grudgingly admire those who can pull off that kind of espionage? what about if that leads to the death of the source or the death
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of 100 sources? what if that leads to the death of americans? at what point does become an active war that responded to in the cyber realm, respond to outside of the cyber realm? i don't know that we know the answers. there's another important reason, this is something i think we can achieve. our global geostrategic foes, whether you think of the iranians, the chinese, the north koreans or the russians, he had a common interest with us in understanding what the rules are and how we might react and how perhaps they should react. if we do this will also isolate nonstate actors. this is a realm a lot of today's going to focus on, asymmetry. this is a realm in which i suspect asymmetry is particularly to challenge for us. my guess is five motivated coding php send a basement somewhere can create a real threat force. i also. we don't do this we will be on a continual technological treadmill i think we will always be a little bit ahead on that
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treadmill but always looking over our shoulder as others develop the technological and engineering capability to get to our defenses. doing this success i don't think results in this problem going away anymore than the geneva convention eliminate war. i think if you look at the 150 years of the geneva convention existence are really essential things before the world collective vigor i think it's up to us as members of congress to push their product which is ask that we discussed it some today that you keep your thoughts and perhaps an update on whether we're making any progress and as leaders and intelligence community you would prioritize and effort if they could make a real difference. thank you. i yield back. >> director clapper, i said some really nice things about you by before you walk in so you have to watch the replay on c-span over the weekend. it is really a pleasure and an honor to have you and your team here to testify in public before this committee.
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we have your statement for the record but would like to give you an opportunity to express what is in your statement that you provided to the committee. you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, chairman's, ranking member schiff, members of the committee. when i testified on intelligence committee the worldwide threat assessment at the end of february, cyber threats again letter annual threat report, if this was the third year in a row we have done so. my colleagues and i are here today to update you on some of the cyber threats that face our nation and their intended national security implications, much of which you've already discussed. we will run into some classified aspects that we won't be able to discuss as told in this open televised hearing. i do want to take note of and thank the members of the committee who are engaged on this issue and have spoken to publicly come as you did here this morning.
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so in the interest of time to allow for questions this will be the only formal opening statement, and then we will open it up for your questions. so i will briefly cover some -- >> director clapper, i didn't realize but i think we were going to give you 10 minutes, so don't feel like you're on the clock. >> thank you, sir. i think we should be able to get this done within 10 minutes. my colleagues and i will be, as i said, open for your questions. before i begin i do want to note that i guess forgive the commercial but the events of the last few months have reinforced my belief and the need for cyberthreat intelligence integration center, or ctiic, and those big or this later and my remarks. cyber threats to the u.s. national and economic security are increasing in frequency, scale, sophistication and the severity of impact. and although we must be prepared or a large armageddon scale strike that would debilitate the entire u.s. infrastructure, that
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is not our believe that's the most likely scenario. rather, our primary concerns are the low to moderate level cyberattacks mcbride of sources which will continue and probably expand. this imposes increasing costs at you indicate to our businesses, the u.s. economic competitiveness, international security. because of our heavy dependence on the internet, nearly all information communications technology and i.t. networks and systems will be perpetually at risk. these weaknesses provide an array of possibilities for nefarious activities by cyberthreat actors, including remote hacking, supply chain operations, malicious actions by insiders and simple human mistakes by system users. these cyber threats, from a range of actors including nation-states which fall into at least in my mind to broad
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categories. those with highly sophisticated cyber programs most notably russia and china, those with lesser technical capabilities but more that there is intent such as iran and north korea who are also more aggressive and more unpredictable. with respect announced nation-state entities, criminals motivated by profit, hackers or extremists motivated by ideology all are of course included in this thread. profit motivated cyber criminals rely on loosely networked online marketplaces often referred to as the cyber underground or dark web. that provide a forum for the merchandise listed tools, services and infrastructure and stolen personal information and financial data. thethe most significant financil cyber criminal threats to u.s. entities enter international partners come from a relatively small subset of actors, facilitators and criminal for a. terrorist groups will continue
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to experiment with hacking which can serve as the foundation for developing more advanced capabilities. with respect to the impacts come again you've alluded to this already, cyber espionage undermines confidentiality. cyber threats and actors, particularly criminal and terrorist entities, undermine data confidentiality. denial service operations and data deletion attacks undermine availability. in the future i believe we will see more cyber operations would change or manipulate electronic information to compromise its integrity. in other words, compromise is actors in this reliability instead of merely deleting it or disrupting access to it. with respect to counterintelligence impacts as illustrated so dramatically with the opm breaches, counterintelligence risks are inherent when foreign intelligence agencies acting access to individual identity
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information. foreign intelligence agencies could target the individual, coming members, coworkers and neighbors using a variety of physical and electronic methods. or extortion or recruiting purposes. while speaking of the opm breaches, let me say couple words about attribution, which is not a simple process and involves a least three related but distinct determinations. in the case of opm we've had differing degrees of confidence across the icy in our assessment of responsibility for each of these elements. of late unauthorized disclosures and for defensive improvements have process and technical excesses but from cybersecurity investigations of incidents caused by four actors were also driving valuable new insights and new means of aggregating processing the data. in sudbury for cyberthreat studios national and economic
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security have become increasingly diverse, sophisticated and harmful. a variety of federal entities that work best cyber problem, some of which are represented here with me, dhs, fbi, nsa and other sector specific agencies at the departments of treasury and energy. everyday each of these centers and entities gets better and better at what they are charged individually. now we've reached the point where we believe it's time to knit together all the intelligence they separate activities need to defend our networks because while these entities may be defending different networks that often defending against the same threats. that was one reason the president directed me to form ctiic. i strongly believe the time has come for the creation of such an organization. we are pleased to see you've shown support for the new center and both your cyber in fy '16 authorization bills. we look forward to working with the committee to enable the intelligence community in general and ctiic in particular
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to support our nation in this vital area. with that i will stop and will open up for your questions. >> director, thank you very much. as you know we are anxious awaiting on the senate to pass the cyber legislation so that we can get to a conference. we were hopeful they would get done before we broke for august. they haven't. now looks like from recent reading looks like we are looking out into october. i want to get all of you a broad question and give you plenty of time to answer it, but being that were after in the public for everyone to see, i think it's a great time to not only discuss what each of your agencies do, and also talk about maybe the number one, two, and three, maybe not in any particular order, particular to your agency what you see as the greatest threats, dick is concerned, and issues that you all are working on in each of
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