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>> representative flores of texas, congressmen your group met earlier with house speaker. >> first of all, we had a great meeting today, all three of the candidates, i thought, really did a good job about expressing the direction they would lead our congress and presumably the country. they talked about how we could unify the party, the processes we would use as the house moving forward, the way we would develop agenda and messaging to support agenda, and the other

parts of their individual personalities that they thought could help us get across the finish line. >> you heart from representative mccarthy and jason chaffetz, what were the two or three questions that your members wanted to know of each of those candidates? >> well, there were two questions that stood out that went across to each candidate. the first one was, will you support the nominee that we select tomorrow whenever we have our vote this month, and then the second question was if we don't have 218 votes for that nominee, how are we going to get to 218 votes so that we have a reasonably unified conference, and the third one is how do we unify our party so we are more effective and working for the american people. >> have you as an individual

have had a chance to talk individually with each of the three men? >> yes, sir, i have. i had individual conversations with each of them. >> will you endorse candidates prior to thursday's conference election? >> no, i don't think it's appropriate for us to do. look, we have over 170 members and they each work for their -- their constituents back home and each of them need to make the decision that's best for their district and constituents, as a result of that we don't believe in block voting or endorsement. what i was trying to do today is give each members formulate an opinion about which support and get them to support nominee on the floor october 29th. >> going to conference meeting,

what concerns do you have as rsc chair in. >> the concern i have is that we have struggled to be unified and particular over the last few weeks. it's been pretty difficult to be unified. i do see the early green seeds that have been planted and hopefully we can become more unified in the weeks ahead. that was my primary concern, but it does look like we are building the new gop conference for the future which would be more effective and accountable for the american people. >> a lot of looking forward here, look back for a second, what's been your relationship to house speaker boehner and the relationship leadership? a very cordial relationship with him. i've always felt that in order for me to do my job best on behalf of the republican committee is to have those type of professional relationships.

that said, that doesn't mean i always agreed with him and quite frankly in many times i didn't agree with the positions they were taking. we were able because of cordial relationships to get some things done that i thought were beneficial to the country, constituents that we represent back home. >> how would you like to see the rsc have an influence over the daily house agenda? >> the same way that we do today, that we try to do, that is to try to get our leadership to listen to our ideas and -- and to allow these ideas to flow from the face up and to wind up into a legislative format to come to the committees and done go to house floor. that's what we try to do. it's been difficult to do under the old leadership structure, but i do believe based on conversations we had that

everyone running for leadership today believe in bottom's up approach and as a result of that the rsc will be more effective as it has thus far. >> congressmen, thanks for stopping by. >> yes, sir, great to talk with you. >> the house freedom caucus has endorsed representative webster, complicateing mccarthy's past to vote. why did the freedom caucus endorse daniel webster for speaker. tell us about him? >> webster is the former speaker of the florida house and prides himself of having a reformed, the process of bills were passed in the house there. he's been going door-to-door, caucus to caucus, delegation to

delegation making the exact case, i did this in florida and we can do that here. we recognize the process is broken and i want to fix that. he's been talking about a power pyramid that he wants to do away with and allow individual members to have more of a say and how it ends up getting passed. >> so you say the quest for speakership complicates for kevin mccarthy. >> well, the unknown is chaffetz. i think there's only a handful of members, if that, that publicly endorsed him. he can get a few as well. the caucus is compromised about 30 or 40 members. if they vote in a block, that promises at least somewhat, 30 votes to webster. in the immediate term it's not

going to have a huge effect because mac carte is going to be the probably recipient of a wide majority of the -- of the republican votes behind closed doors tomorrow, where this matters is october 29th when they go to the house floor. that's a big unknown because mccarthy needs to win 218 votes to be main speaker. he can't do that if 30 or more republicans vote for someone else. you need 218 republicans and there's 247 in the conference. so it just makes it tougher to get there. >> is the caucus not committing to work for whoever comes out as the winner in tomorrow's nominee election? >> my understanding of their decision is they are committing to only tomorrow. and i think they view the rest of this month as a sort of trial run for mccarthy, you know that you have all definitions coming

up, cr has to be dealt with in november, debt ceiling in november. if they are not happy with how mccarthy handle these things, they could potentially vote against him again in october, in october 29th. but it's possible that they may do that anyway. >> walk us through the process on thursday with the conference. how will the election for nominee to be speaker work? >> so they go behind closed doors at noon. each candidate has to be no, ma'am dated -- nominated by another member of congress. there has to be second. at least two people to support. after that candidate gives a short speech, five minutes or so and members cast their vote by secret ballot. no individual votes are going to be related to the press or even

their other members. after that's all done, votes will be counted up and whoever emerges with the majority, you know, will be the person who the conference elected. >> the other leadership positions in the party, initially to be voted on thursday, that's been pushed back, why? >> that's right. you know, it's unclear what the -- the sort of back-room reason is, the public reason is it's recognized that there's a lot of descend right now. the majority of position should be voted on until somebody is actually named speaker on october 29th. it's possible that, you know, this vote could go on for days or, who knows, weeks. anything could happen if nobody can get 218 votes. so there -- i think they still want to jump the gun on naming somebody to a position that may not actually be open.

>> he is on twitter at the newhauser, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> florida congressmen webster are run to go replace house speaker john boehner. totoday will meet to try to choe a new speaker. follow coverage on house leadership elections on the c-span networks. >> up next republican presidential candidate john speaks at a u.s. hispanic chamber of conference int. some of the challenges facing your city, the senate is back at 7:30 eastern live here on

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for background on each case, order your copy of landmark cases book, available 8.95 plus shipping at c-span.orglandmark cases. >> republican talked about gun violence at a u.s. hispanic conference this week. this is an hour and 15 minutes. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to the q&a session. as president and ceo of hispanic chamber of commerce, i have the honor of representing 4.1 million hispanic owned businesses that together

contribute over $661 billion to american economy. we also advocate on behalf of 250 major american corporations and we do this through our network of over 200 local chambers and business associations nationwide. and while the u.s. represents the interest of men and women who happened to be of hispanic decent, we never forget that we are first and mother most american businesses and every tax bill we pay, every job we create, every product we manufacturer and every service we provide goes to benefit this american economy. as an association that represents 4.1 million hispanic business owners we have accountability to ensure their voices are heard by each candidate, not only as business leaders but taxpayers, campaign donors and ultimately as voters. that's why these events are so important. as i mentioned earlier, the q&a

session fourth in a series. senator ted cruz, bernie sanders for intimate, additionally we hosted jeb bush just two weeks ago on the same topics. today we are delighted to be joined by our next guest in this series, ohio governor john kasich. we have been closely watching his presidential campaign and are familiar with his body of work both in ohio and in congress. the goal is quite simple, this forum is meant to set record straight on issues that include hispanic americans, job, economy, the federal budget, immigration, national security, frankly issues that affect all americans. we'll spend about 45-50 minutes in conversations between myself

and we will take questions from the audience. i would like to welcome govern governor. [applause] >> thank you. >> governor, let me start by first commending you for keeping your word and come to talk to the hispanic community, unlike others in your party, you obviously have a very busy schedule specially with gop debate coming up, so i want to thank you for making the time to talk to us and to kick things off -- >> my pleasure, why wouldn't come? >> right, goodman. to kick things off i want to get your take on primary landscape, you said before that no republican has ever won the white house without winning

ohio, to my question is with a bit of hometown and homefield advantage, what is your plan to become the nominee? >> the situation is it's really a brilliant way in america to pick a president. you start over in iowa, that's the caucus which is different, big state, unpredictable what will happen over there. and then after iowa we head to new hampshire, new hampshire is 1.2 million people. that's like running for congress, okay, so there you show up and very much like iowa you do a lot of the town halls, i've done 18 of them and around and they poke you, smell you and they look at you in the eye and try to figure who you are and what your experience level and i think most important the understand their challenges and

problems, so we see a lot of national polls, national polls, we don't have a national primary so you go iowa, you go to new hampshire, south carolina. you move right along. we consider new hampshire to be important but not exclusion of other places. we are building our infrastructure and so in new hampshire i'm very pleased because there's no question we have the best organization there and organizations win, and you know, in this -- in this whole business of the primary and national polls and all that, which really most important and i run in a lot of political campaigns, you know, if you build a stage and it has no -- we have seen that happened with people. so you have a very solid foundation. that's the way i've always done it. you know, i'm having a great time. so i show up here today and

you're like really thank you for coming, why wouldn't i be? you know, well, he'll do this and do what. i don't care what he does, let's have fun in the time you're here. >> a follow-up for you, in the republican primary and the party i guess in general, establish ment candidates like yourself and outsider candidates like fiorina and carson. the outsiders seemed to be in the arena. >> yeah. you know, it's sort of funny. i was sitting with bob walker today, conservative and we were

sitting in the trailer out in crafl and, when did we ever become rhinos? [laughter] >> he laughed at that. look, from the time i get into politics all the way through where i am today, there is no one i can think of who is consistently shaking up the steps more than i have, you know what it's like to be a republican on defense committee and you start trying to limit the production of a weapon system or you're trying to effect procurement, you know what it's like to be an individual member of the house and be offering budget againsts your own president, you know what it's like to fight against your own appropriations committee, do you know what it's like to go to ohio and face the

problems i had that we are not going to race taxes and in the first year become the most unpopular government in america because you're a change agent. what i can do, javier, i know how to get it done. i not only want to -- people stand on the street corner and shout for change, but if you don't get it done, what do you achieve. yesterday i was with congressmen in virginia and he was blaming the senate for not being able to pass the balance budget out of the house. well, i said, whose fault is it? i spent my whole life badgering people and persistent and achieving, and so establishment from the standpoint that i know how to move the system but i would be kind of hard -- you'd have a lot of people laughing if you called me a member of the

establishment. we need a lot of change in this country. >> history of willingness to step up. >> you know, one time -- well, one time i had a bill to change corporate welfare. i said we are going to reform welfare for poor people, we ought to reform for rich people. i got up to speak, the thing i was doing they didn't like so much. what's so great about this tonight, if i didn't have provision on corporate welfare i was be serving the dinner and not eating the dinner, okay. >> you spent 18 years in congress and had been credited and i think rightly so as one of the chief architects behind balancing the budget way back in 1997 as chair of the budget committee. we know that that's part of your resume and rightly so, i believe you should be.

so you probably have a very unique inside on this issue. but right now as we stand for every one dollar that the u.s. spends on children, generally, we spend about $3 on seniors and according to committee for responsible federal budget because of aging population, of course, you and i know a bit about that, if we continue on this path, if we continue about this path in about ten years we will be spending 4.50, $4 and 50 cents for every dollar on a child. clearly the path is going to require some difficult decisions moving forward. so my question is, if you become president how will you work to make sure the government that's making long-term investments like prioritizing kids while not bankrupting the rest of us? >> that's why you have to have experience and deep knowledge at some point in time, demographics

are working against us. so, you know, the situation is you don't want to pull the rug out from under seniors who become dependent on benefits. on the other hand you have to see what you're going to do to stabilize the system. back in 1999i offered a proposal on social security that would have protected our seniors, would have started the baby boomers at a slightly lower rate in way you calculate social security benefits and would have trickled all the way down and would have given our young people a private account of 2% that would have been paid for out of the 5 trillion-dollar projected surplus that we had when i left congress. that thing sat there for 16 years. javier, when you go to the doctor and the doctor says you have a problem, i would assume

you would say let's deal with it now. in this town you know you a problem and -- >> that's good. >> really well there. >> i'm writing it down. >> buried their heads in the saned -- sand and blamed somebody else. the consequences are going to be bigger. what i just said to you was pretty simple, would have fixed the program for many, many decades. we are now looking -- and we'll have things to say. we have to figure out which one brings about the greatest equity both to seniors and young people and what is it that we can have passed. that will probably come a little bit later for me, but soon i will be talking about medicaid and medicare. medicare is a critical program and it is running out of money. so we are going to have some things to say in the next couple

of weeks, and but there's nobody javier, that's balanced more budgets or proposed more. i've written 18 of them, i'm just starting to get good at it. in terms of young people like in our state, we have a medicaid issue for poor people. i expanded medicaid because i want to make sure we could help the mentally ill and drug addicted and poor get on their feet and be productive. at the same time we dealt with medicaid, we believe in childhood education. it's a question of balance, we are trying to control the high costs of education. you can't ignore your seed corn, you can't ignore your young. we believe in mentoring programs and the schools, the early childhood education is so critical because it allows the brain to develop, you know, when kids are really young. it's all about balance. isn't life really about balance? it's about figuring how to help

this and try to make it all work. i'm confident we can do that. economic growth, of course, is the most important thing for everybody in this country. if you don't have economic growth, everybody false flat. with economic growth it's amazing how much more you can do to help people. >> let me chat more about medicaid and health care. as governor of ohio you chose to expand medicaid contrary your legislators of your state wished for. >> that's not really true. let me explain the process to you. >> you're calling me a liar? >> no, no, i'm not that guy. [laughter] >> what happened was -- let me just tell you the story. i think it's a very interesting one. our head of mental health and drug rehab was in my office and i looked at her and -- because we had to make a decision about

expanding medicaid. she's a lady, she's on the helpline, she knows the problems that people have, she's in my office and i said, tracy, what do you think i'm going to do with the medicaid, do you think i'm going to expand medicaid, you know, every night, i pray that you will do it because there's many people in need. guess what, your players aren't answered. she walked out of my office and went to the room and broke out and cried of joy. we did it for a couple of reasons, we were able to control medicaid, 10% growth to 2 and a half percent growth in second budget without cutting one benefit or taking anybody off the roles. the states have hardest time in being in control. i'm such a great guy but i have great people working in the medicaid area. secondly, you know the mentally ill, do they belong in prison if they are bipolar or

schizophrenic? i don't think so. if i can get them on their medication and we can have the community work with them to not have them in jail and save $22,000 a year and let them get a job where they become tax-paying citizens and realize their god given purpose or someone swho is addicted to drugs, if we don't rehab them we see them in and out of prison, maybe they die of an overdoes f we can help to get them out of prison -- the rate by those that we treat is less than 20%. nationally is almost 50%. when we do that and they become productive or if you're the working poor and you spend all your time in emergency room we all pay anyway. we believe over time it's a smart -- it's a smart issue, but

there's another issue, how about morality? how about being a country that can embrace and help people get on their feet? that may not make a headline and may not make some people happy, but you know what, i'm not in this business for headline. i am in the business to make sure that everybody has a chance to be lifted, and it's worked in our state. now, if people don't want to expand medicaid, that's okay with me. my question for them is, what are you going to do about the mentally ill, what are you going to do about the drug addicted. the first time the bill went to legislature they wanted to avoid this, the leader made sure it happened. this time the house and the senate both approved expansion and we have a conservative legislature, maybe we are starting the win the order of the day. long answer but it's important to hear. >> i appreciate the

compassionate approach. >> the other side of it, though, let me tell you, we have drug courts. we don't fool around with that. this is not a matter of just give, give. you have to accept personal responsibility where you are. it's like my mother used to say, it's a sin to not help, but a sin for not helping people that continue to sin. >> on wall street specifically, while some candidates spoke about public sector experience, you're someone who actually has both. in 2001, i believe, after about 18 years in congress you joined the leihman brothers and you

worked there till the firms collapsed, which many said it kind of started of the financial crisis. during the 2010 ohio race your opponent at the time sitting democratic governor ted strickland didn't hold back on attacking you because of the experience on wall street. in fact, one of the attack ads said that you, and i quote got rich while ohio seniors lost millions. what would you say the voters who might be wondering if you were to become the president, would you have their best interest at heart? >> first of all, the guy lost the election. ..

i worked in the financial services, understand the challenges of small, medium that community banks have. i've worked in industrial space with a steel companies where i learned about not only the difficulties they face on dumping from foreign companies and destroy jobs and markets but the challenges that they have in terms of bringing heavy interest back to america. this was fantastic but that's not all i did. i also was on some boards and i taught, but one of the things

you need to notice also worked at fox news were i was a giant television star, javier. in fact i was -- >> in fact i was hoping for an autograph. >> look, here's the situation. my father carried me up on his back. his father was a coal miner. my mother's mother lived with the sheik who could barely speak english who came from yugoslavia. says something about my views on immigration. if we didn't immigration than i would probably be running for president of croatia or something. i understand when the wind blows the wrong way people find themselves out of work. i understand, i lived with a. i just was back in my hometown with nbc. my daughter's college dads great disappearing childhood, all the buildings i went to our knocked down. blue-collar place. when you grow up like that it's in your dna.

i think it's good to see all levels, all sides of society to get a real understanding about lots of things work. >> let's talk about immigration. our association for starters views immigration reform as an economic inherited that we believe could unleash innovation come create a business, attract the world's best talent to our shores. i sense that you have probably see eye to eye on the. however, where i don't think that you and i see i.com correct me if i'm wrong, come is this building of a wall. and using that as a solution for fixing a broken immigration system. we know that the u.s.-mexico border is about 2000, 1900, about 2000 miles long. the "national journal" estimated building a wall that one would cost about $6.4 billion.

but we've seen over the years is people will manage to find a way to get around it, under it, above it, through it. and their imported i'd like to note that roughly half of our nation's quote-unquote undocumented immigrants are actuated by way of overstating their visas and not through legal entry. so the question is, with all of us have had the proposal to fix her broken immigration system? and test harness what's good about the immigrant community and particularly the immigrant entrepreneurs, and how do we make that a competitive advantage for the american economy speak with work you love, javier speak with dallas, texas, and washington as well. >> do you lock your doors at night speak what i do. >> really? don't you think the country needs to block its doors? the reason what you do is because you want people willy-nilly walking in your house. i voted for the 86 reagan proposal. we never locked the doors in the

country that can't control its borders as a country that has a lot of chaos. the 6 billion figure, really that much on the floor up on capitol hill every night, so let's not get hung up, it is a lot of money but it's prohibited. intrinsically safe secure the border can build the wall, there are technologies that can be just as effective as a physical wall, i mean with the ability to of sensors and drones and things like that. i think it's imperative we control our border. but that being said of the rat to have an effective guest worker program. i think people have to be able to come in and work and be able to go back home without an effective guest worker program, people come in, tried to sneak in and sneak back and forth. look, organized labor doesn't like the expanded guest worker program that i favor.

i have friends in organized labor but on this issue i think we should expand the guest worker so people are comfortable. secondly, once we have things in place we don't want people coming over. if they come over they have an excuse, they have to go back. no excuses, just go back. for those who are here that have been law-abiding, god bless them. they are a critical part of our society from doctors, engineers, to lawyers. well, i don't know if we need anymore of them but we've got a lot of teachers, whatever. and i think they should have a path to legalization. when you talk about the visa issue and all that, that's something that has to be dealt with. we don't want people overstaying their visas. it looks to me to hold immigration has to be done in a way in which we address all the different elements here but the fundamentals are this. protect the border, guest worker, people who have been law-abiding get to stay. i think the american people,

always hear politicians from the american people, like they are speaking for the american people. my sense of the years that i've been in baltimore government is the public would accept this as a result proposal and i think it would pass congress. the idea we're going to take these folks up and ship them out, that is just unbelievable, the thought of the. what am i going to do right in neighborhoods in and out, come on now, we are going to the border. first of all it would say in sheer panic to our families. our families here that live in fear of being divided. could you imagine being a six or seven or eight year old kid and being told they're going to ship your dad out? it's just not acceptable in america. in terms of the whole immigration issue, we need to look should would broaden it, clean up the visas but at the end of the day, people here now,

let them stay. >> so that is in sharp contrast to your party's front-runner. >> remember i was telling about the stages come about building a stage with scaffolding. if you don't have the scaffolding, the stage collapses. i'm not worried about any of that. when all is said and done people going to pick somebody that they think is a reformer, can get the job done, and land the airplane. and somebody that understands their problems. site don't think about front-runner mail. you know, i do think that really means much right now unless were having a national primary tomorrow from which we are not. >> so guest worker program, build a wall, don't worry about the noise. >> know, if you are a leader you can be, people scream loud. okay, i hear you, okay?

let me think about what you were saying, if what you're saying makes sense, okay, i will consider that. but if it doesn't make sense just because you scream loud, how are we supposed to run a country like that? you run this chamber. does anybody squad inside the chamber or any other members? want to give you? caving to them all the time? >> no. >> you don't speak with i'm asking the question. >> seriously. [laughter] >> that's your second question. >> i am very experienced in asking questions. >> my daughters were 15 and a half. >> hobby or, look, here's the thing. we are a country of immigrants. me of us, right, what does the hispanic community do for us? god-fearing, commonsense, hard-working, fantastic, part of our group, right, part of who we are as americans. i don't care who's going to yell

loudly. frankly, when i go to town halls and they can yell at me all they want, i don't have a problem here. the part of the difficulty we have in this town is we don't have leaders who were willing to lead instead of reacting to who yells the loudest -- >> or worse yet the monster spit a look at medicare expansion. i go to events where people yell at me. do you know what i tell them? god bless them, i'm telling the mobile better than this, there's a book that has a new part and an old part, they put it together. that's a remarkable book. if you don't have one i'll buy you one. it talks about how we treat the poor. sometimes you have to lead. it's like fighting ices. are the american people ready to put boots on the ground in the middle east? if we don't stop cases, this becomes at some point a direct threat to the united states. it doesn't mean you don't listen. but you cannot let the yelling and screaming determine your

decision-making. >> point well made. i would ask yet another follow because i have had enough of you yet. when you were, during the last rga conference, you openly expressed a willingness to create a pathway to citizenship spent i said it was off the table because i think when you go to negotiate you've got to be very careful about putting an absolute. but i don't favor that. the reason i don't favor it, javier, you know, i don't believe in jumping the line. i don't believe that you ought to be rewarded for jumping in front somebody else who is waiting. my wife and i have a friend who said he collected nicaragua. she did want to go back to nicaragua. she returned to nicaragua and she's really not happy with the fact that some people jumped the

line in front of her. i just don't think you want to reward people that do the job. so path to legalization in the israeli appropriate. i just want you to know though that you have to be very careful. we've got, we got people here, candidates are people in the country slammed a fist on the table, this is the way it's going to be. one of the things, newt gingrich told me one time when i was arguing with somebody, he said, john, maybe i can figure out how to use your skills to unlock them. blocking all the pieces on the chessboard doesn't help the wind again. you've got to be careful about what you do and what you say. >> point well made. let's talk just a bit, just a few thoughts, i'm birthright citizenship. where are you on birthright

citizenship speak with if you're born here, you're a citizen, period, end of story. it's not worth going into. would not go to change the 14th amendment. i can't even get a balanced budget through, but i will, although i will when i become president. >> i want to talk more generally about the hispanic electorate. in 2012, it's no secret president obama garnered about 72% of the hispanic vote. i had a conversation -- >> why was that? >> i think because he paid attention. gery chico asking a question they can spin this is an important discussion. >> let me finish my question. the point i made was never before has the hispanic electorate played such a critical role in electing an american president get into my believe that never again will an american president be elected without openly courting the hispanic vote.

potential 58,000 brand-new perspective month and that's the case for the next 28 years in a row. and fairness, i know that hispanics only comprise barely 3% of ohio's overall population so i understand if you don't necessarily have an extensive track what with the hispanic community or issues. but with all of that said as a presidential candidate what will you do to attract and electrify america's hispanic vote? >> they are an integral part of our whole society. we just pointed -- appointed and hispanic judge. web very sensitive issue on a collaborative policing community. we got the hispanic that i not only put on that but asked to serve on the subsequent border. we appoint people to the university boards. we want on the state department of education that is just

beginning to serve there. you have to be inclusive. i not only feel this way about hispanics but i feel this would also but african-americans. i've spent a lot of effort into how to make sure that everybody feels as though they have an opportunity to rise. it's a natural for me. i also don't kind of think about this from the standpoint of segments, like this that segment in this segment. i think of it in terms of americans all of them have the same hopes and dreams. every mother when she holds her baby has big hopes and dreams for that baby. everybody ought to feel they are included i think part of the problem in our country today is that a lot of people who don't feel like they are included. as the president, of course i want to be able to be in this position of where everybody has an opportunity to hold major posts and the major positions. to me it's not even about vote.

what is that? that's boring to me. i'm going to appoint you because i can get about. i don't which is appoint people we are excited to appoint so that they can rise? that doesn't mean you look for certain opportunities to make sure the chevy society where everybody feels included. unit efforts along those lines but it's not because i want to get the. it's because it's the right thing to do. de novo, javier, i don't know if you've noticed this not what none of us are going to get out of this place alive, okay? you remember what the pope said when he was here, that incredible, wonderful visit from the holy father, there will be an accounting for what we did what we had an opportunity here on this earth. i so firmly believe that. so if we are offering opportunity for everyone, that's really good. that's why we do it. not because we're going to get

something out of it. it's just the right thing to do. >> point well made, serve. as a bit of a follow-up i think we all know that words matter, and that the risk of you made a comment about keeping the hotel made when talking to the hispanic community. that's some, some would say feeds into stereotypes. in fact, hillary clinton was very quick to tweak, and i quote, another product -- >> that's because she's petrified she's going to run against in november. i've got to get through the primaries to do it. >> and i quote, and i quote, another product of the party of trump a john kasich talking about latinos as adjusting talking about tips. so two questions, and by the way -- >> and i used to like her. >> by the way, i put on the record when i was asked and they said that i believed ali was a bit awkward i thought that you were a decent man and that your

comment was well-intentioned. so what's your take on all of this, governor? can you clarify the role that you can hispanics played in an american economy of the future? >> this is why you can't take this business of running for president too seriously. let me tell you what happened. i'm in my hotel room, and this lady writes the a beautiful know. i really don't know who she is. here's what the note says. i really care about your stay in his hotel. what a nice thing for somebody to write. and then she drew a picture, there was a picture drawn with little flowers on the tree. when you run for president are when you're governor are when you are, you know, quote in one of these big positions, your life can move at about 100 miles an hour. and mine sometimes moves at 100 miles an hour. i am grateful for the fact that

for whatever reason, i'm not telling you i've got this all figured out, but the lord has laid on me the notion that everybody is so important and everybody matters. and so that's really what i was commenting to i was in new hampshire not long ago where i saw a woman who was russian by the way doing some unbelievable housekeeping chores and i just had come you are just wonderful. so what do i think about the growth of hispanics? i think they can do everything and anything in this society. so people want to take things and they want to drive decisions, but if that's, if that's really i don't understand that. don't you have better things to do? anything, me as a candidate, the things i said about the community have been very, very inclusive, very respectful. so i think that hispanics from top to bottom plate enormous

roles in our society. but you know what? i'm glad i slowed down to notice that lady. brother lawrence, he's a great theologian. it was a dishwasher. when he lost -- washed dishes, he prayed. i suspect want to get to heaven, hopefully i'm going to get there, i'm going to see brother lawrence and he will have one of the biggest crowds on his head because the lord doesn't look at those as which are positions on. he looks at those with what's in our hearts and reward those that way. >> so all the work is good but then? >> all work is noble. all work is dignity. >> on that line many would assume that ohio's largest industry is manufacturing, however, according to the ohio farm bureau, and contrary i think to populate it appears agriculture is, in fact, ohio's top industry.

as i understand it agriculture contributes something like 105 105-$108 billion to the state economy and are literally like 75,000 farms in your state. now, i'm an american. i was born in this country. but growing up i was a migrant farm worker. and i know what it's like to work in the sun all day long. i know what it's like, no coffee breaks, that's unheard of. no such thing as child labor laws. literally you're working from sun up to sun down, no holiday pay. if you want shade, brother, you put on a hat. there were no bathrooms. no running water. if i wanted to trick of water i had to pay a nickel for a ladle of water spilled what do you think that i think about that? >> i'm going to get to the. i know firsthand the abuses that are suffered by our country's agricultural workers.

with that said, i do bring us all up because back in april of this year the columbus dispatch cited the report conducted by ucla ranking ohio as dead last among all 50 states for having policies and laws to support the health and well being of agricultural workers, many of who are immigrants, who i believe can be found right now contributing to ohio's largest industry. now, governor, you've been paid at times as a compassionate conservative, and i believe that you are at a very much respect that you don't shy away from admitting how your views on immigration and in of the things are, in fact, evolving over time, as a good man should. as president, what do you say to what's going on in ohio? and how would you ensure that all of america's working poor are treated fairly and decently, as the president of the united states? >> what you just told is news to

me. i have to find out what it really means because a lot of times things come out, and when you get under the did you find out they are not true. but i can promise you that i will have an understanding of what the situation he is in ohio. i don't, look, my father would carry me on his back, go house to house. he would be there in all the weather conditions. he never made a lot of money. his father was a coal miner who died of black lung and lost a lot of vision in his eye. my own goals when the time came, my uncle george has told me when the time came for them to get their pensions, the plant shut down. these injustices are not appropriate, and i will find exactly what the situation is. but in no way, shape, or form do i think people ought to be abused, that there should be child labor laws, that people shouldn't be treated with

respect. i'm somebody that is not at war with organized labor. i that my problems with them but i made it clear to them as long as we work together we will be fine, i'm going to find out what's going on in that front, and we will deal with it. >> we will do a follow-up. >> we don't let things like that standard sometimes things are more complicated than they appear on the surface but we will dig into it. >> let's talk about marriage equality. >> let me also to reduce the people here know, ohio is the longest agriculture and manufacturing we are now i.t. we are now medical devices. we are now financial services. we are now logistics. ohio is a different state than what you perceive it to be because we have diversified the state. >> i completely agree. on to marriage equality. during the first year of the debate, and i was watching, i think he did an amazing job by the way, you are applauded for

your answer on how you would explain to your child your opposition to same-sex marriage, while talk about god's unconditional love and that that should apply to everyone regardless of their sexual orientation. you stated that when it comes to gay marriage, adequate, the court has ruled and will accept a. want to get more clarity on the phrase we will accept it. a recent pew report shows that some 56% of americans today support same-sex marriage. is it your view that the gop should be more cognizant of the views of mainstream america, perhaps more accepting of that, and not fight the supreme court ruling that? >> well, i'm not fighting it and we had an amendment in ohio, but look, it's decided. we've moved on from that and i don't support gay marriage. all my friends, number of whom are gay, understand that but

it's okay, we move on. one of the guys i used to work for me who is a friend of mine, i went to his wedding. i said to my wife, what do you think was she said well, i'm terribltired whether you go or i went with her. it was good. let me just say something to because it's an appropriate time. there was an incredible article in "the wall street journal" on saturday in the previous section of the paper about the growing drift of the west towards a secular society. and how people are always trying to pursue happiness and wealth and comfort. and what we're finding is that this aggressive search for a secular society isn't working, javier. because you know what, and that in all of us is a sense of meaning.

now, i've mentioned god in faith and all that several times. i think the pope did it best when he said we should focus on the do's and not the don't, and that's why people got so excited in america about the potential of religion, which is about grace and hope and purpose of living a life beyond itself but there's a bigger issue. when the west becomes a fully secularized society, how are we supposed to operate in a free society when everybody wants to pursue things their own way? with two guys walking across a bridge, who gets knocked off? what is the appropriate way for us to be able to guide ourselves with an absence of laws? and if we become a secular society without a sense that there is a set of expectations, morals that are set on high that should guide us, then who's right and who's wrong becomes completely subjective.

i don't happen to think that's how we would have the best society. i don't think hispanics we believe that. because i think they believe, and i think that most americans, there's a change going on in america. all i'm suggesting to you is this. if we become secularists, when we face the radical islam, that is the farthest thing from a secularist. and when we cannot unite with our friends and the jewish, muslim and christia and a chrisy to espouse a set of values that is the true way for human beings to conduct their lives and live their lives, we will be added very, very severe crisis point, javier. so i don't want anybody to try to read, well, that well, but i'm just saying to you that the sense of right and wrong that comes from the great religions is something that the west should begin to pay attention to and not continue to drive towards a totally secular

society. i think it's very dangerous or our children and for our culture. >> point well made. spit well, you didn't expect her that today. neither did they. >> very strongly point very well made. let's talk about the economy at it. i think this is an issue that all americans, this is not an expanded issue but i think all americans care about the jobs in this country and care about the continued well being of our economy. ..