this issue do you think are changing views on marriage should the scene differently than her other positions that have change such as keystone xl? >> i think there's an understandable tendency to want to try to make all those things the same or to try to divine some elements of her personality by looking at her views on a range of topics but when it comes to her views on same-sex marriage i take her at her word, that her views on this topic underwent that kind of change that a lot of people's views have over the last several years and i think many people have noted the significance of this changing debate in our country and our political system and the president certainly believes that it reflects important

progress that our country has made. thanks a lot everybody. >> thank you. [inaudible conversations] thea jim webb today officially withdrew as a candidate for the democratic presidential nomination at a press conference at the national press club. he did however leave the door

open for possible independent run. >> accept my views on many issues are not compatible with the power structure of the nominating base of the democratic party. that party is filled with millions of dedicated hard-working americans but its hierarchy is not comfortable with many of the policies that i have laid forth and frankly i'm not comfortable with many of theirs. for this reason i am withdrawing from any consideration of being a democratic party nominee for the presidency. this does not reduce in any way my concerns were the challenges facing our country. my belief that i can provide the best leadership in order to meet these challenges or my intentions to remain fully engaged in the debates that are facing us. how i remain as the voice will depend on what kind of support i'm sean in the coming weeks as

i meet with people from all sides of america's political landscape and i intend to do that. i hold strong views about where our country needs to go. i will never change those views in order to adopt to some party platform is a way of getting nominated. i feel strongly that if i were nominated that we would win and that if i were president i could assemble an administration filled with great minds, good leaders and capable people from all sectors of our society who share my vision and who could bring this country back to its revered position as a beacon of fairness at home and sensible commonsense and our foreign policies abroad. though i am not going away i am thinking about all of my options

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rest of jim webb's remarks at 10:00 p.m. eastern tonight to get to watch anytime at our web site c-span.org where you will find more of our road to the white house coverage of our presidential campaign. >> to be honest i was a lot younger. i was a traveling person. i wasn't in a senior role and i also you know when you're traveling all the time i got to know the people that traveled with her. i felt like i got to know her pretty well because she had come back on her plane and talk to us. at the same time i didn't have the same sources and campaign and the high-level people that i have now and whether that's a function of the time or a function of being in a more senior role.

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program at george washington university looking at the legacy of former vice president walter mondale. he talks about his relationship with president obama and details about the military operation to kill osama bin laden. this is just under an hour. [applause] >> thank you and good morning. good morning. thank you. that's much better. we are going to do just fine here. we are going to have some fun with this because one of the greatest legacies of the carter mondale administration is what became known as the modern vice presidency. no two occupants of that office have better represented what that really means than the two gentlemen we have here today at would you please join me in welcoming to the stage vice president joe biden and vice president walter mondale.

[applause] [applause] [applause] >> you are awed, welcome. >> may i start here? >> yes, please. >> i want to welcome my old friend joe biden who is here with us today. show them i have been friends for many many years. i was in the dash the day you were bribed and i think you are age 29. you were 29 and two days early

being eligible as united states senator. they're all those years we worked together we have been dear friends who have been a part of the progressive network of america and when you were select did as vice president we sat down and talked about my experience with the office and you have taken the vice presidency a big step forward. [applause] aided anonymously by your extraordinary experience in the senate sometime both chairman of the judiciary committee and the foreign relations committee and they knew i liked you and i have enjoyed watching how this all

worked out for the betterment of the obama administration. you know all these things. you know i love you and i'm glad to be here with you today. >> the feeling is mutual. [applause] >> we are going to have a great conversation this morning about the vice presidency and a long history in this country. it hasn't always been what it is today. unfortunately it was a constitutional afterthought. was really an ill defined office for 200 years. it was basically an office of obscure indian derision the subject of a bad joke. >> you mean that's over? [laughter] >> i'm getting to that part traded john adams called the office and he called it the most insignificant office that his

imagination conceived. little wording that we get them meaning. nelson rockefeller called standby equipment other vice president called a fifth wheel of government. i can't stand this audience would john man's carter called it hard it is to say no one says those things about joe biden's vice presidency. he is involved almost on a daily basis and important policy discussions with the white house. he doesn't do state funerals and when he speaks everyone knows he speaks for the president. in and ever since he has come to represent the new modern vice presidency and a great pleasure to have him here today. thank you mr. vice president. [applause] now we are going to talk about how this was shaped and i'm going to ask vice president mondale to go back to those days

in 1976 when you first talked to then governor carter and planes and following the election of 1976 when he had more serious discussions about how you saw the office and how he saw the office. what would you say were the key elements of your understanding with president carter about your functions? >> one of the key elements was was -- to have us arrange for what became our special vice presidency. i did not want to be involved in the details of government. i didn't want to do anything that somebody else was doing. i wanted to be a general adviser to the president. i wanted to use my experience and friendship on the hill and elsewhere to try to gather information because it was my impression that a lot of times

bad news gets sorted out before it gets to the oval office with disastrous consequences for freshmen. so i tried very hard with the president to try to sell this idea which wasn't hard because he agreed with it. in order to make that work i needed the inside information. i couldn't go to the president say what's cooking today? i had to be able to know. [laughter] and not just the surface stuff but the tough things that you could only learn if you read what the president does and read read -- talk to those of the president talks to. that's a central element. the big breakthrough was of course locating the vice president in the west wing. i used to say going to the building is like going to baltimore.

>> some of us spend a lot of time in baltimore. >> you did. that's good for you. [laughter] and so the other thing was to prevent staff from dividing up. my staff and his staff rather than our staff in carter was very helpful in this. moe became a key member of the carter's staff. carter officials broadened my staff and we tried to blend the two. all of that was very helpful. >> as i recall mr. vice president, president carter volunteered to other things that really added to your credibility as vice president. he told his staff in his cabinet i want you to respond to the vice president is at the request came from me. the other thing he said this was based on the unhappy experience

of vice presidents like humphrey and rockefeller. there was a threat in the white house staff. he said if i find any of the undercutting the vice president year tenure is going to be very limited here. those messages were stronger than almost anything else in terms of establishing. >> there was one other lights. in the spring of a new vice presidency the reporter started with this question. whatever happened to the vice president and they are seasoned at it. when that started them, carter called them all in personally and made the pitch for our strong relationship and that was really a shock to the press corps to be briefed in that manner. but it really worked. >> it did work. vice president biden how did you and president obama told off of this experience? what can you tell us about the process because every new administration has to do this

depending upon your own skills and interests and so forth. >> first thing i did was when the president asked me whether i would be fêted i said no thank you, i don't want to be vice president. for real. i honest to god thought i could help them more as chairman of the foreign relations committee, and he said i need to know right away. i said no i don't want to do this. i was on a train. i spend 80% of my life on a train and he said how much time do you need? i said i don't need any time. he said go on home and talk over with your family get back to me. my family was right and made the right decision the best position of my political career was to join the president. the first person i called was fritz. it's not hyperbole. he was the first person i call than i said tell me about what

you and president carter worked out. he went to great great detail and that gave me a murmur in the end laid out what he thought were the essential elements to make it work create you all know and i think we talked about this the vice presidency is totally a reflection of the president. there is no inherent power, none, zero and it completely thoroughly totally depends on your relationship with the president. i started off with a great advantage. if you go back and not anybody should, the president and i debated 13 times in 2008 trying to get the nomination and if you look back on it the only two people that didn't disagree on a single substantive issue where the president and me. we disagreed to a degree that we never disagreed on a substandard issue. so it started off for a new that i was simpatico with the

president-elect and secondly we had a good relationship when he asked me for its, asked him why do you want me to be vice president in the said two things in this order. he said number one i know you will always tell me the truth and that you will be straight with me. there will be no varnish on what you tell me and he said second they need help and governing and thirdly your experience in foreign policy would be helpful. and then i called you again as you remember and joan because john was a gigantic help to my wife jill and really extremely thought all because that is another very difficult job. it's almost being the second lady. and jill was new and young and

john was an enormous help. what they both with the -- basically said was that matters that you have a personal relationship. i don't mean that you party together or you go to the movies together or whatever. it's that you have a relationship that is built on a genuine personal affection and the two things about jordan a station and hours i can't recall a single word being written where barack obama and i have been leaking out of the white house because we did what you suggested. i had an advantage. most of the people, for example the outset when i called you about picking a cabinet and we spent 14 hours a day some days on the 80th floor or whatever it was in a high-rise in office building in chicago in putting

together a cabinet. it said you have either right on anybody in this cabinet. do you think we should not move and if you ask my opinion on every cabinet member and we were in total agreement. the number of the cabinet members i knew better than the president knew because i had worked with him for a long time. and so what we did was we emigrated staff from the beginning. senator coffman and my chief of staff who is here today with me, ron klain who'd been my steve -- chief of staff was there and a that guy named mark gittins dean who ran the judiciary committee. the three of them sat with four of his people and we made every single decision together. i was pretty certain from the outset that this would be collegial and so what happened was from that point on we had an added bandage. my grandchildren and his

children are each other's best friends now. they vacation together. my daughter-in-law and michelle are close. jill is close so it ended up being one of these things where i warned the president you got me, he got the whole family. he thought i was kidding. there's a great picture i have in my office. i should have brought it if i had taught about it. in grant park for it -- grant park for his plan when it gotten a call from him but he was very gracious by the way that's another story. we had gotten a call saying that the opposition had conceded so there were a million people backstage and my mom who was 92 years old who really liked the president she is standing back with us and i say now ladies and

gentlemen the next president of the united states a rock obama and the next vice president joe biden. there's a picture of my mom reaching out and grabbing barack sand. he is looking at her funny the picture and she's saying it's going to be okay honey. come on. [laughter] so my mother gets up and walks us both on stage. [laughter] and barack just look like okay. here we go. but the key has been we have a great trust in one another and our staffs at least half of the president's staff for my former staff members. and so it rests on one thing, defining what it is you want to do and determining whether or not the president-elect agrees with you. he asked me, do i have any

conditions? what portfolio do i want because i talk to fritz and i said mr. president i do want any portfolio. i can serve you best because i'm the only one of your quasi-cabinet members who can cross all lines. i can take care of cross jurisdictional issues but i don't want is my brother-in-law said i want to be put in a position where i'm cutting somebody somebody else's grasper to want to be put into position where cabinet member worries that i'm taking wine authority from them. he said what you want? i said two things. one to be able to completely be level with you and argue with you and disagree privately and secondly i want to be the last person in the room on every major decision. i didn't mean that figuratively, met literally to be the last person in the room. he is president. he gets to make a decision unless there's an overwhelming disagreement on principle in which case i developed prostate cancer or something and leave.

he knew i meant that, major fundamental disagreement. i get to be the last person in the room to make my case privately and that is where i think i could serve best. i hope i have served best in that role. that's what you did fritz and that's what you advise me. so that's how it developed. it was a long conversation and he was open about it and he made it clear. he said i want to make clear when i have a disagreement with you i'm going to flat out tell you and i wanted to do the same with me and do it in private. we have had some very candid discussions like friends do like you and fritz did when you were in the senate and like you and fritz did when you were vice president and probably where you argued a little bit. that's a healthy part of her relationship between a president and vice president that can be established. >> would you say you're

basically an across-the-board adviser in the same sense that he was and troubleshooter? >> yes. i.d. two things. >> we are going to break away from this recorded program live to capitol hill. representative paul ryan taking the podium. >> i shared with my colleagues and what i think it will take for the next speaker to be successful. basically i made a few requests for what i think is necessary and i asked my colleagues to hear back from them by the end of the week. first, we need to move from an opposition party to being a proposition party. because we think the nation is on the wrong path we have a duty to show the right one. our next speaker has to be a visionary one. second, we need to update our house rules so that everyone can be a more effective representative. this is after all the peoples house. we need to do this as a team and

it needs to include fixes that ensure we do not experience constant leadership challenges and crises. third, we as a conference should unify now and not after a divisive speaker election. and the last point is personal. i cannot and i will not give up my family time. i may not be on the road as often as previous speakers but i pledge to try to make up for it with more time communicating our vision, our message. what i told members is if you can agree to these requests and if i can truly be a unifying figure then i will gladly serve and if i am not unifying that will be fine as well. i will be happy to stay where i am on the ways & means committee. here's how i see it. it is our duty to serve the

people the way they deserve to be served. it is our duty to make the tough decisions this country needs to get our nation back on track. the challenges we face today are too difficult and too demanding to turn our backs and walk away. global terror, war on multiple fronts, government grown on accountable unconstitutional, out of touch. persistent poverty a sluggish economy, flat wages skyrocketing debt. they cannot take on these challenges alone. now more than ever we must work together. all of us are representatives of the people. all people. we have been entrusted by them to leave and get the people we serve, they do not feel we are delivering on the job that they hired us to do. we have a combo problem -- we

have become the problem. i want is to become the solution. one thing i've learned from my operating in janesville is that nothing is ever solved by blaming people. we can blame the president. he can blame the media and that's kind of fun sometimes. we can point fingers across the aisle. we can blame each other and we can dismiss our critics and criticism as unfair. people don't care about blame. people don't care about effort. people care about results. results that are measurable, results that are meaningful, results that make a difference in their daily lives. i want to be clear about this. i think that we are still an exceptional country with exceptional people and of her public clearly worth fighting for. the american idea it's not too

late to say, but we are running out of time and make no mistake, i believe that the ideas and principles of results driven common sense conservatism are the keys to a better tomorrow, it tomorrow in which all of god's children will be better off than they are today. the idea that the role of the federal government is not to facilitate dependency but to create an environment of opportunity for everyone, the idea that government should do less and do it better, the idea that those who serve should say what they mean and mean what they say. the principle that we should all determine the course of our own lives instead of ceding to those that think they are better than the rest of us. yes we will stand and we will fight when we must and surely this presidency will require that. a commitment to natural rights,

a commitment to common sense, to compassion, to cooperation. one rooted in general conviction and principle is a commitment to conservatism. that may close by saying i consider to do this with reluctance and i mean that in the most personal way. like many of you jen and i have children who are in the formative foundational years of their lives. i generally worry about the consequences that my agreeing to serve would have on them. well they experience the viciousness and instability that we all face here on a daily basis? my greatest worry, my greatest worry is the consequence of not stepping up. of someday having my own kids ask me when the stakes were so high why didn't you do all you could do? why didn't you stand and fight for my future when you had a chance to do so?

none of us wants to hear that question and none of us should ever have to. i have shown my colleagues but i think success looks like, what i think it takes unify and lead and how my family commitments come first. i've left this decision in their hands and should they agree with these requests then i'm happy and i'm willing to get to work. thank you. chad. >> what happened in the past couple of weeks. you put out statements. [inaudible] you said you had concern about the consequences. >> this is not a job i've ever wanted. i'm in the job i've are is wanted here in congress pretty came to the conclusion that this is a dire moment not just for the republican party but were our country and i think our country is in desperate need of leadership.

>> do you think you have the capability of unifying this congress and what assurances do you have that you won't be the next one? >> i laid out for the conference what i think it takes unify this conference and to have a successful speakership and attend their hands and i will leave it up to mike colleagues to decide if i am that unifying person. and ott. >> that's what we always do. [inaudible] i laid it out today with her conference called to the various groups having guarantors meant being that unified candidate. i'm not going to get into that now. that's something that's got to be done as a conference as a whole by consensus. thank you very much. appreciate it. spina casey represented paul wright speaking to reporters live tonight on capitol hill saying he will serve as speaker

with conditions. obviously more to the story and we will will follow it on the c-span networks pray take you back now to the event with vice president joe biden earlier today at george washington university. >> that helped a lot and i think president carter would agree with that. >> i want to make it clear that on all the major relationships i will occasionally be sent to meet with the chancellor of germany or the prime minister of england for the president of france but the advantage i had could save the present lot of time. i've had long personal relationships. i've been there 36 years and i have personally met like you every world leader in the last 40 years and a number of them i have close personal relationships dealing with them and they were in their legislative bodies. so what i really, what basically

happens mr. vice president is laid up in a situation where for example i know all the eastern european leaders very well and central europeans settled they are satisfied with talking to me knowing i speak for the president. the president does all the heavy lifting. the president is the guy who is the one. i will give an example. what president carter did with you but what president obama did. one president xi was vice president he and president fu at a state dinner decided that xi and i should get to know one another and it was president obama's idea so i spent five days traveling 15 or 20,000 miles inside of china with president xi. he came here is my guess. i spent for the five days he was

here except when he went to mcwouk what he iowa. by the way he did go there because he is a young man had been there but is a consequence of that i have had 25 hours of private dinners with president xi when he was vice president. even a relationship like that the president manages it but occasionally if he doesn't have time i can be sent. so it worked because of the nature of what i had done before. >> the other thing is the years that you spent in congress. i didn't spend as many as you. i spent many years in the congress so that when we had real issues like trying to get the panama canal back, it was her provided she remember. i was able to go out there and i think help make a difference. >> you did more than hell. you actually push that over. i remember sitting with wendell

ford. everybody in the senate and the house for that matter respect to the fritz and they knew whatever you told them a straight stuff and it mattered. and so i think you did more in by the way there is a soma rarity between president carter and president obama. president obama only spend four years in the senate. he had great respect and good relationships but just like president carter, he didn't know intimately a lot of these folks and personal relationships matter particularly back in the days when we treated each other with more respect, and by the way the difference is the best lesson i ever learned was from senator majority leader mike

mansfield from montana. i used to have to go see him once a week. when i got there when you and john were helping me through what happened when i first got elected and i didn't realize he gave me an assignment each week. every freshman got an assignment that it turned out he was basically taking my post because i said i wasn't going to come to the senate as you remember. the bottom line is i walk on the floor one day and just laid -- jesse helmsley is excoriating -- americans with disabilities act. i had to go into my meeting with the majority leader. i guess i looked for turbine is that what's the matter and i railed against jesse helms he had no social redeeming and he didn't care about the handicapped and he let me go on. it was the most important lesson i ever learn. he looked at me and i mean that sincerely, he said jesse helms

adopted a young man with braces up to his hips at 14 years old. i said i would feel like a jerk that he said well he did. he said show what i've learned and this is your ammo. he said it's always appropriate to challenge another man or woman's judgment but it's never appropriate to assume a motive because you don't know very today i suspect amy will tell you it's all about motive up there. it's not about judgment. you are a bad person. you really are not a good god-fearing man. it's all about, it's about what people think your motive is and a scribe a motive. you can't get to guess after i tell you i think you are dishonest or you are in the pocket of the industry. it's awful hard for us to get to a guess. that's what's wrong. >> i want to ask about the

question. you are both new to the vice presidency after years in the senate. this is a new experience and you had to make it up as you went. what was the greatest challenge you faced early in her vice presidency to make a work? >> he did a lot redder. i have never in my entire life lost. [laughter] i mean for real. even when i was a young lawyer and had a law firm. i had to realize anything i said would be attributed to the president and so when asked a question you had to refrain from answering or modulate your answer make sure it was in line with the president. it took me a lot longer than it took you fritz but it took about six months. there wasn't anything nefarious about it. you asked your opinion as a senator and you say this is what i think. that's not appropriate.

you have to demur and work out with the administration's position is. >> i had a tough time to. the campaign getting elected was just fine but then when i actually sat down and realized i was giving up an independent position in the senate where i was in pretty good shape at home and i could do what i wanted. i was my own adviser and suddenly had gone on me when i got onto planes but that it changed a lot. and that now i had to check in with others. i'd have to check in with the president. it was several weeks before i felt comfortable. i used to shuttle new cabinet officers on what became air force two and a couple of times i thought i had just stayed back home on that plane and forget it. it was hard.

>> even before that in the spring when you are considering this he sat down with hubert humphrey and for all of his unhappy experiences you said what about it? i love the senate and i love my independence here. why do i want to do this? what did he say to? >> i told carter would you told them, i would just as soon stay in the senate. i can help you more there but yeah i met with humphrey. humphrey reputedly had a tough time with lyndon johnson, not repeatedly but really. [laughter] and we all knew it was tough. so i went to see him and i said you had this miserable time as vice president. you were on a roll in the senate. you were may be the most respected member of the senate. you had just come off several victories like the civil rights act.

suddenly this thing all came to a crashing hault. i said what do you recommend from me? he said i would take it. he said i think you would like it. he said i think it would ride in you. i think you could do more in one day as vice president all year as a senator and you will grow. >> that was the day you opened your mind to the idea. >> i wasn't going to do it and then i got to thinking about it. >> thank you hubert. >> that's right. he is a good speaker. [laughter] >> he was issued no, he was my mentor. he was the guy that got me to run for the senate in the first place. i really miss him. >> you were speaking to a lot of his friends here today and by the way his heart was as big as his head that he had perjured --

prodigious mind. these to come over when i first got there to console me. he would end up my couch and he would be crying and i would be consoling him. i said really? it's okay boss, it's our right. we are fine. what a wonderful wonderful man. >> vice president biden did you talk your immediate predecessor about this? >> i didn't talk to him about the job. >> about how the vice presidency worked? >> what i talk to about with him, first of all i liked dick cheney for real. i got along with him and i think he's a decent man and when i went to see him i didn't talk to him before. i went to see him after we were elected and i went to see them at the residence. he and his wife were extremely

gracious to jill and to me and he talked about how the office work was related to the unction in the office. but he had a very different relationship than he was powerful vice president. he had a very different relationship with president bush. one of the things i learned and it probably sounds like i'm making this up when i say learned that i spoke spoke to this man repeatedly about this job. vice president cheney, he had his own national security team and it was real. there were smart guys and women and i remember when i would recommend to the president jim jones who i knew in the president knew. i knew him a little better as their first national security adviser and i will never forget sitting down with jim and what

jim was worried about with good reason i could have kept a staff of close to 22 folks. it was essentially a shadow national security council. i remember the look on his face and i said look, not going to keep that staff. i sat on one condition and he should talk to the president about this. i have total access to the national security council. i can pass them for you. i can bring them on and we can do this jointly. you were the national security adviser but the entire team you have what must be overshadowed. i will keep three people in my office and i remember him going oh my god thank god because what it was was about the confidence i had and the president meaning what he said in the president's confidence that i was not about to try to set up a satellite operation where i was going to take over line control of any department.

the guy became the number two guy was one of my guys you know tom donlon. so it all works but i will never forget cheney, i don't know but the cheney bush -- cheney bush relationship at the outset seemed to be to me more codependent so cheney had a very different view of the vice presidency of how it functions internally but he was extremely helpful and gracious about the office and the legal parameters of the office and of everything from the aircraft to housing. >> vice president mondale do you have a view on the cheney vice presidency? >> a little different i would say. he was kind to me when we visited the home and so one but

he said early on that he was going to take things to the dark side and i believe he really did and he created the vice presidency as sort of a privileged sanctuary. he wouldn't respond to subpoenas , stiffed the congress. >> he had a different view. >> yeah and he worked with some of his key guys to bring about the torture memo and so on. i think those were bad days in the history of the vice president. i know all the things that set our right but i have a kind of of. >> i don't disagree with that. >> out. >> a harsh view. >> i have a harsh view of how the vice presidents in the office was used and so that's

why i never, i mean he knew because i was in the senate during this period. he knew my strong disagreement and i remember he talked about being a total independent and he was not executive and he was not legislative area that don't know what he was. >> he was everything. >> but i think again, look, that could not have happened without president bush permitting it to happen. so that's when i said it was a very different relationship. i think at the end of it it appeared, i don't know, it appeared that president bush, that he had lost president bush's competence at the end because of a lot of things i guess. but in terms of the actual

transition he was extremely gracious. i have done nothing -- there is no similarity. there's a cartoon i was given and i don't know who gave it to me. i think it was in "the new yorker" and cheney is walking down what was allegedly the basement of the vice president's residence. there are hand manacles on the wall. [laughter] and i'm standing behind him and he said showed you might want to make a few decorative changes. [laughter] >> i am told the manacles are gone. mr. biden you said a few minutes ago talking about your adjustment coming to the vice presidency with your own agenda and addressing the president

there's only one agenda in the white house and it's the president's agenda. you can't exist and you can't function with more than one agenda. the criticism of the cheney vice presidency is that there was a competing agenda at times. is that basically what you were saying? >> again i don't know. it ended up being a competing agenda but at the outset it look like was an agenda written by cheney that the president was agreeing to it. i simply don't know. the great advantage that i have i said at the outset is that the president, president obama and i have ideologically have had no disagreement, none i mean zero. we have had tactical disagreements on how to implement. we have had disagreements on elements of our foreign policy.

we have had disagreements on whether to be more or less assertive but i didn't have a problem and that is what made it comfortable from the beginning. like i said we served on the same committee together in a short time he was on in the senate. i had spent a lot of time talking to him about his views on the whole range of issues particularly on the middle class and so i was confident and it has borne fruit. i was confident that we have the same attitude about foreign policy and the use of force. we have the same attitude about everything from the tax structure to civil rights and civil liberties. you know how people make a big deal of the fact that i came out when i asked about marriage. the other thing i told the president was he asked do you

have anything you want do and i said two things. i won't wear any funny hats and i'm not changing my brand. he knew what he was getting and i knew what i was getting. there was no pretense about any of it. he was not for fawning over making sure i had a job and i'll was not -- the job. so it is worked in a main reason it has worked is today to this day we are simpatico and all the major issues we have disagreements to agree. >> i have nothing but admiration for what you and president obama have to to make this office work. it's not an easy office three of me to work. >> i think the obama biden administration is solidifying the concept of the emerged

presidential vice presidential institutions. when i started that was in doubt. would we continue or executive vice as we called it. now we are 40 years later and it's working better than ever. >> webmaster but the follow-up question. you think this change of both represent as permanent? there's nothing in law and nothing in the constitution but by practice as a permanent? >> i think it has the prospect, it's more likely to be permanent than not and i say that for this reason. what has happened since in 40 years for its is the breadth and scope of the office has increased significantly. for example he kitted me once in said look make up your mind

before i decided where they want to be secretary of state or vice president. he said it would be better for for -- but i have as vice president i have traveled almost 100,000 miles in seven years. again that is because of the nature of not my consequence or importance but the nature of how the job has gotten so immense and ironically it has occurred in foreign policy as a consequence of a unipolar world. even if the president didn't want a vice president to be doing a great deal more it would have to be delegated more authority to a secretary of state or secretary of defense because there's not enough time

but early to return the phonecalls. there is not enough time. the president can't do that today. >> vice president mondale do you think it's permanent? >> i think it is likely to be permanent. as you pointed out this is all personal to the president. we might get a president that doesn't want us and that's it or we might get a president and the vice president there are a bad match. therefore it's just irritations all along but i think what we have seen over these last years and particularly under your administration is this is so spectacularly, obviously the best thing to do to strengthen the president and make the president succeed that i think the next president would be a fool not to try to do something.

>> or to minimum the next person won't have to fight through the fact that it's not unusual for a vice president to pick up the phone and call a cabinet member and ask a question or request personnel. that used to be before you a gigantic. if you read caro's book about johnson when he was vice president with president kennedy , allegedly he never was invited to the oval office. so i think those days are gone i matter what the relationship but whether again as you said you told me in the first place threats it depends on the personal chemistry between the president and the vice president more than anything else to make it work. >> what both of you have shown a thing for experience in this office is it is an enormous asset to the president to have a credible vice president doing the things you just talked

about. >> just remember he or she is president. >> only one of them. what would be your vice to future vice president? >> my ties would be just to make sure before you accept the office there is a clear understanding of what the president expects of you. i think the only thing, the only time there is rail travel is one there are different expectations of what you think you are going to be able to do or you want to do or what's expected of you that you don't want to do so the last point and i know we are running out of time, the president knows that there's something i disagree with him on privately i'm not asked to try to sell it. i would never disagree with the president. i will support it but everybody knows the bad news about me as no one doubts i mean what i say. sometimes i say all that i mean so it doesn't work to try to sell something you are not --

so it's important for the president to understand. a clear understanding of what is expected. >> vice president mondale what would be your device to a future vice president? >> look at this experience that biden and the rest of us had, come to a clear understanding of what the vice presidency of them. it wasn't clear where was going to go and now it's pretty clear what is possible. ask yourself if you want to live that kind of life and ask yourself whether the person would be comfortable with it. if the answers to those are no, don't do it and if they are. >> anything final mr. vice president? >> the most important for the vice president to conclude is the vice president regardless of his or her responsibilities genuinely respect the president. it's hard to serve in this

office if you don't genuinely, genuinely respect the judgment and character of the man or woman you are working with. >> any final words mr. vice president? >> i think it's important the transition. many presidents look at the vice president as a suggestion of their tenuous place on earth. [laughter] and that's kind of the poisonous concept when you think about it. it takes a president to take a deep breath and say guess i need this help terry guess i'm not afraid of having somebody in that position. yes i want that person to be ready if that's what happens. carter did that. he talked about it. he thought it through and it made all the difference in the world in our relationship. >> thank you very much mr. vice presidents.

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even ones as dramatic don't last long. trudeau's daschle be tested by a sizable addition in the house of commons. >> i'm aware of both the opportunity and responsibility that we have to live up to having put forward a strong vision for growth for unity. >> he has to navigate the tpp come the keystone xl pipeline chart a new course on climate change impacts on more refugees by year's end. pledging to do all of that collaboratively. >> actually listening and respecting the 337 other voices that are in the house of commons that were chosen by canadians yesterday. >> there'll be a cabinet named

in two weeks. >> the cabinet is filled with people who are not just representatives of their ministries departments but actual deciders. .. we will see if he can transfer that brand to prime

minister in the cut and thrust of government. then a new cabinet. no word on when the new cabinet will convene. >> thanks very much. he has given himself two weeks to choose his cabinet. we are joined now. what did he say today? >> he gave us that date which is not a lot of time but it falls within the normal transition period and he will keep the commitment he made during the campaign to have gender parity. 50 percent women, 50 percent men which will be okay because he managed to elect 50 women. as you well know, playing the guessing game of who will be in the cabinet is one of the favorite hobbies here in ottawa. a lot of different people to choose from to try to send a signal about the kind of government he wants to have. >> let's play the guessing game than.

>> let me show you some of the new faces. some of the new people you should keep an eye on, bill blair, former chief of police, melanesia lee would be a strong face from montréal, formerly in the military, head of military. a strong criminal lawyer, touted as someone that could go into the finance portfolio and jody wilson, former regional chief who could do much to bring in the aboriginal profile but there will be other people, much more familiar it's about striking a balance between the new and geographical places where they live.

>> some of the decisions you will have to make before november 4. he said a tax cut would be his 1st piece of legislation. they would see the tax rate cut to 20 percent, a potential savings of up to $670 per year. people earning more than 200,000 would pay 33 percent income tax. thethe age of eligibility for old-age security withstand 65, and there would be a new child benefit for families earning under 200,000 per year, tax-free benefit based on family income that could be as high as 12,000 per year for the lowest income families. taxes were one of many things that were at the top

of the mind for canadians. we asked about the chine -- the kind of changes they would like to see and here are some of their answers throughout the program. >> my name is rebecca, and i live in montréal. i am looking for change in the form of less military aggression overseas and spending on education and supporting families. >> am excited to see a prime minister that will be involved more in the community and looking to doing tax breaks for the middle class. it will be great to see all of that occurring and us being a part of it. >> with change as the theme for the day, what are key changes that we can expect when it comes to canadian foreign policy? one senior correspondent has that for us tonight. this is not a revolution.

>> my friends, sunny ways. >> sunny ways will certainly look and sound different on the world stage, even if most stay the same. >> the liberal party has always understood how important trait is command we will continue to stand for trade and engaging with the world. his readiness to use the military is another story. >> as we have well scene, he has not wanted to get involved. >> once a more peaceable foreign policy and the less ambitious military. after years of debate he says canada should forget it and he would rule out the f3 five as a replacement for canada's old fighters. >> it no longer made sense if it ever did.

>> he would buy something cheaper. he has not said what. then there are the old fighters now bombing isys in a rack. accused harper. he will end canada's bombing mission. when would you support real military action as opposed to just -- >> that is a nonsensical question. >> he understands the commitments are made. >> but he is falling into line on the december climate summit in paris, although he

is vague about that. >> thank you very much. we have that perspective from london. >> the liberal party. >> this hours after he took the stage canada's usual place in the world already seems to be shifting starting with the unusual place in the world headlines. the story, like the man, as laid prominently. the form of the prime

minister in germany. he was a rockstar. and many others there was a lot of focus on his luck. he will be among the youngest. that will be good for the country. focused on fighting isys.

enter international criticism. reportedly asked the british prime minister to silence them. also spoken with the french president and british prime minister.

>> and another thing that canadians will be watching. here are some of your thoughts on what needs to change. >> i live in ground. tuition is ridiculous. >> my name is sarah come i live in foreign help. >> greater opportunities for families and kids. making it a more inclusive intolerant country. >> they set up for another nailbiter. will his big advantage turn out to be a killing field.

four years he tried to draw attention to what he deemed trudeau's weaknesses. in the end it was harper himself who announced he would step down as leader of the conservative party. catherine: has more. >> just hours after defeat the conservative party is promising rebuke to figure out what went so wrong. there are plenty of suggestions. >> could have used the front bench a little bit more. i think that that would have demonstrated to people that the prime minister has a very strong cabinet and strong caucus. >> the mvp, did it fail? they took there vote. >> stephen harper is putting

the blame in just one place. >> the disappointment is my responsibility and milo. >> there to find an interim leader. >> when the next time comes this part or were -- party will offer canadians a strong and clear alternative based on conservative values. >> walking away from the party. whatever happens next we will inevitably be a shift. good things for homeowners and working people, all of those messages are positive but have to be delivered in a positive way. >> the way the message is delivered will depend on the new leader command whoever

it is will have to be committed. >> affordable care. he will not step down which came as a surprise to some after a night that saw the official opposition diminished to 3rd place and some of the party's most prominent stalwarts deleted. why he may be sticking around. >> capturing memories before boarding the campaign plane one last time trying to move on after a nighta night that saw the party lose dozens of seats across the country. even though it was a close one and he has to accept the new reality. >> i want you to know we work for you each and every day in this new majority parliament. >> even mvp heavyweights foster seat. an mp since 97. the party's deputy leader

and newfoundland jack harris longtime foreign affairs critic lost his auto seat. >> people are just wanting to basically get rid of the prime minister and saw the liberal party is the best way to do that. >> by the end of the night. >> this longtime strategist says they underestimated justin trudeau. >> they were more flashy, more confident. he was more cautious, statesmanlike, serious, and that was probably not a good strategic choice. >> has for his political future. >> he has a good year or more to make up his mind. >> he believes right now the opposition need someone with leadership experience, and lists stephen harper stepping back he wants to be

the strong voice. >> thank you very much. there are a few notable achievements. canadians elected ten aboriginal mps of seven last time. more than 13 percent are visible minorities, less than 10 percent before yesterday. nasa still only 26 percent women. we will see if he delivers on that election promise to ensure women make up half of his cabinet. straight ahead, the secret of justin trudeau success. it took a lot more than low expectations. ♪ >> and we will return live to canada and just a few minutes. aminutes. a recap of yesterday's canadian liberal victory in the parliamentary election there.

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to get there he has proven himself to be a dogged campaigner, charismatic, and able to roll with the punches. what was the secret to his success? >> he was born with the trudeau last name, good books, connections. the question is how did he use those? the eyes of a lot of people his a better politician for having done what he did so flawlessly. the city's gay pride parade. launching far from ottawa. most of the liberal winning decisions are on display right here. with candidates waiting into the crowd.

whether political calculation or qualities that come naturally, the approach will serve him well in the 11 weeks to come, including year,, including here, a gift of rolling with whatever amount to have whatever moment a campaign can deliver. >> you get to see what this guy is like. >> if you had any other politician, and i would even include obama in this, topless woman runs up to them and get into a frame and snapshot of themselves, i don't think they would have reacted the same way. he washe was with a topless woman, but he might have been with the toddler or somebody's grandmother. there was no shame.

people can make fun of them all they want to but the fact is it did not bother him at all. >> early on the liberals make a key strategic decision, promising billions in infrastructure spending and running deficits to pay for it. it is the all-important wedge issue. >> we believe the economy needs investment, jobs, and growth. >> one journalist worked with him on his recent memoir and believes that deficit decision was a bold move. >> there was this vanishing sliver of political real estate, and he realized he can either live in this vanishingly small piece of political real estate or breakout and go to the left

on a few key issues.issues. he made a bold statement that he would not be hand in as the party that sat between the ndp and conservatives. >> the gambit to go in and say we will run deficits is from the brand gerald betz. we were at an event in montréal. it was almost like he could not believe his luck. he said this, the ndp should have gone deficit, but they did not because they are still trying to get past the reputation. >> the debates, conservatives openly deride him. one tory spokesman said if he only shows up with pants on he will exceed expectations. >> canadians -- >> and yet he manages to find a voice voters relate

to, some describe as a principled resentment of harper. >> ii think that voters were so eager for someone who was full throated in their criticism of harper and there energy to take him on. it was nervy and aggressive enough. the people who were wavering. this was there guy. >> watching the candidate up close, there is a physicality. while most live in the bubble of the campaign, he dives into the crowd has the fueled by the social interaction. >> he is like an engine, and it never comes to a. but as soon as he found appointed animated him he would jump up and start pacing the runway.

there will surely injure some canadians. in some cases it will make millions of people said an angry and in some cases horrified his biggest challenge is making those decisions.

>> from montréal to toronto to what avail. infrastructure and transportation and it paid off. .. on the promise these crowded metropolitan matters.

they have an expectation that the feds will deliver to. >> i think you will see a renaissance. it's on the horizon and part of the campaign promise. adam vann campaigned as a longtime urban activist and a commitment to but tens of billions of dollars into practice. >> we are the most urbanized country in the group. >> it's based on issues like transportation that canadian mayors made very hard to ignore. it was unprecedented. they banded together. more affordable hands housing and transit.

hard-to-find commuters in toronto that didn't back that. >> i think anyone who is going to be in power needs to work on public transit. >> there is a demand for more transit. >> in many ways, experts say it was a perfect political storm. cities are having their moment. canada's five largest cities, is 50% of the gdp. >> i hope it's a new era for cities. there is no way we are going to have a strong economic future and build the act second class without the strongest cities we can have. >> he is a world expert on cities. he said metropolitan centers create innovation and growth. as well as helping the suburbs

connected to them. >> that's a new emerging liberal majority, if you will, and i'm making good on that. i i would say it's an investment in the future. it's an investment in the political coalition. it's a much better outlook for canada's economy. us sentiment that echoes back payment that's why some of the cities got taken over because -- >> not everything was being change prior, i think this was the opportunity to take it. it has been almost ten years. i think it's about time people

were ready for that change. i think that vote came in for some time. >> at the right time and the right place. to build on a new construct of the future economy. >> cbc news, toronto. >> here are a few last thoughts from canadians we asked today about what political change means to them. >> my name is hannah, i'm from bc and justin is an optimistic candidate for young people and an optimistic change b mac i would love to see a country with a prime minister that shows more concern for the missing children. >> they were very engaged on an election night. many were watching live election results come in on our website. 6.7 million people checked out them sometime last night on

desktop or mobile. it was the busiest time in our websites history. cbc news led the broadcast between 7:00 p.m. and 1:00 a.m. of 2.1 million. coming up, imagine being the father of a star pitcher. >> i'm kind of hard on them in the beginning but once they make it i guess you have to say they have to ease up. >> and more on today's heartbreaking game. let's check today's business numbers. the loonie moved up just above the two tends mark. the dow lost 13 points in the price of oil dropped 34 cents per about barrel.

we will return to our simo's cast of yesterday's recap in just a minute. jim webb dropped out of the race for the democratic president nomination in a speech critical with party leaders he left open the possibility to pursue an independent presidential run. here is part of his remarks from the press conference. >> i fully my views on many issues are not compatible with the power structure in the nominating base of the nominating party. that party is filled with millions of dedicated, hard working americans but its hierarchy is not comfortable with many of the policies that i have laid forth and frankly i'm not comfortable with many of theirs. for this reason, i'm withdrawing from any consideration of being a democratic party nominee for presidency this does not reduce

in any way, my concerns of the challenges facing the country. i believe i can provide the best leadership in order to meet these challenges and my intention is to remain fully in gauged engaged in the debate. i intend to meet with people from all parts of the political lands eight. i have strong views about where our country needs to go. i will never change those views in order to adopt to some party platform as a way of getting nominated. i feel strongly that if i were nominated, we would win. if our president, i could assemble an administration filled with great minds, good leaders and capable people from all sectors of our society.

who share my vision and could bring this country back to its revered position as a beacon of fairness at home and a principle of common sense in our form policies abroad. though i i am not going away, i'm thinking about all my options. 240 years ago, the declaration of independence from our status of a kalani from great britain was announced. it's time for a new declaration of independence. not from an outside power but from the paralysis of a political system that no longer serves the interest of a vast majority of american people. the presidency has gain too much power. the congress has grown weak and irrelevant. the parties are not providing the answers or the guarantees that we can rely on. the financial sector represented by the wall street bankers is

caring less and less about the average american worker for the simple reason that their well-being depends more on the global economy than it does on the american economy. our political process is jammed up. it needs an honest broker. >> now we take you back to the cbc recap of yesterday's parliamentary elections. >> after a one-week pause, the toronto trento police officer's murder trial has resumed. he pleaded not guilty today in the 2013 streetcar shooting death of a teenager. the crown alleges 18-year-old was struck by eight bullets and died at the scene. a memorial in québec today marked the one-year anniversary of the death of a member of the canadian forces. he was killed in a targeted parking lot hit-and-run.

the driver had been radicalized after inverting to islam. it happened two days before a gunman's assault on the hill. russian airstrikes reportedly killed 45 people today in syria. on the same day, russia and the u.s. signed an agreement to minimize their own risk of collisions as they each carry out airstrikes. humans rights group said more than 370 people have been killed in the past three weeks. the number of migrants reaching europe has reached new record levels. more than 650,000 have arrived this year. more than 3100 people have died attempting the journey. most of them crossing the sea from africa. an emotional reunion for families torn apart by the korean war. two sisters, a father and

daughter, even a husband and and wife, separated for more than six decades. small groups of south koreans are now being allowed into the north for short visits. the trial blue jays lost today. they now trail kansas city three games to one. the first game to one goes to the world series. the math is simple, the jays must win three straight. for pessimist, nothing but a d fold. optimists might say this team knows the way out. after all, they they escaped from one the same size just last week. here's the story. liberal tron token feel its team get behind the color blue. it's not just toronto gripped by this moment. these guys are from america. >> it warms my heart to know people outside toronto cares

this much. >> in those pregame minutes worth anything is possible, it's magic. >> everybody's feeling positive. it's a fantastic environment. everybody is vibrant. >> it is, or it was until the drumbeat slowed. then the heartbeat stopped. >> away we go. >> first inning, first batter, not a great start. start. >> he can't make a play. >> second batter, worse for toronto, beautiful for kansas city. >> kansas city is up to nothing. >> and so on and so on. four runs for kansas city after just one inning. that larger-than-life pitcher, chris young stumped the jays start. >> the thing about the jays, win or lose, it's been really good

for the city. people who haven't been able to get to the bar park have been coming down here to watch together in the thousands. okay not always in the thousands, sometimes it's just not that much fun. >> today it wasn't even close to full. the pain was bad but not nearly as bad as what was to come. >> by the end of the seventh inning the score was 9 - 2. there was nothing pretty here tonight. this is how stressful it gets for fans. a few years ago they were in vancouver. every time their host family went to a game, the young man lost. so today he watched from afar from work in downtown vancouver. maybe they shouldn't have watched at all. definitely shouldn't watch again

because even with an ugly 14 - to score, there is still one more chance tomorrow night. do or die. maybe time for jay's fans to shake off the blue of a different hue that they are moping home with tonight. >> we have a happier baseball story next. how a father's love help shape pitcher marcus. >> we will be back to the canadian broadcast corporation for the national interest couple moments. >> this sunday night on q&a, new york times lyrical reporter amy chose dick shares her experiences to be honest it was a lot younger and i wasn't in a senior role.

i also, when you travel all the time, i got to know her pretty well because she would come back to the plane and talk to us and i would get to know her. i didn't have access to the high level people that i have access to now. i don't know if that's just a change of the time or change of being in a higher role. just about an hour ago paul ryan said he would be willing to serve if certain conditions were met. here is some of what he said. >> tonight i shared with my colleague what i i thought it

would take to have a unified conference and for the next speaker to be successful. basically, i made a few requests from what i thought was necessary and i may ask my colleagues to hear back from them by the end of the week. first, we need to move from an opposition party to a proposition party. because we think the nation's down the wrong path, we have a duty to duty to show the right one. our next speaker has to be a visionary one second, we need to update our house rules so everyone can be a more effective representative. this is after all the people's house. we need need to do this as a team. it needs to include to be insured that we do not experience constant leadership challenges in crisis. third, we as a conference should unify now and not after a speaker election. in the last point, the last

point is personal. i cannot and will not give up my family time. i may not be on the road as often as previous speakers but i pledge to try make up for it with more time communicating our vision and our message. but i told members is if you can agree to these requests and if i can truly be a unifying figure than i will gladly serve. if i am not unifying that will be fine as well. i will be happy to stay where i am as well. here's how i see it is our duty to serve the people the way they deserve to be served. it is our duty to make the tough decisions this country needs to get back on track. the challenges we face to today are too difficult and demanding to turn our backs away. global terror war on multiple

fronts. a government grown unaccountable and unconstitutional, out of touch persistent poverty, sluggish economy, flat wages. skyrocketing debt. we cannot take on these challenges alone. now we must work together. all of us are representatives of the people. all people. we have been entrusted by them to lead. yet the people we serve, they do not feel that we are delivering on the job that they hired us to do. we have become the problem. if my colleagues and trust me to be the speaker, i want to be the solution. >> now back to the cbc program, the national. >> marcus stroman is a starting

pitcher. he spent his whole life proving people wrong. something our reporter heard all about yesterday. the emotional guy who saw it all , his father. >> from mom and dad, stroman will be watched by everyone in just a while. he has been a manager, coach, a dad every step of the way. >> i am proud of him. i have no regrets. i hope he doesn't have any either. it's been a fun ride and i've enjoyed it. i can imagine 50000 people.

i wonder sometimes if he actually feels this. do you think marcus feels that? >> a little bit. >> i don't know if he feels that. >> look at the headline in the long island newspaper. remember marcus is only 24 and a playoff rookie. >> i want to be the one to have the ball in these games. ever since i i was a little kid, i wanted to be the go to guide. that's how i brought him up. >> game day. how's that. >> gets a little nervous. i believe in my son and i'm going to love him no matter what. but i'm a a little nervous and he's a little nervous. >> you feel like there's a little piece of yourself out there every time he pitches. as much as he would like to be, he can't be with marcus on the game day. it's against the rules. the next best thing is to go for a walk with his other son and go for a walk with his friends. >> why are you nervous? >> it's overwhelming.

>> he even gets how big this day is for dad. how it's an end of a journey that started when marcus was a kid. his dream was to play pro sports but ever but he told me was too short. >> everyone just wrote him off. nobody really wanted to take the chance on him. he's heard that his whole life so he came up with the phrase that says height doesn't measure heart. that's what his phrase means. how tall is he to you? >> 10 feet. that's my son so i'm proud of him. >> he's done a great job. >> what you thinking about? what you feeling?

>> just everything he has to do between the injuries and the simple fact he went back to school and he's had a lot on his mind. he's done it so i have no complaints succeed or fail, he's done it. that's the truth. >> as game time nears, there is plenty of proof that marcus made it. back in his room he waits to get a glimpse of marcus warming up. he wants to share the moment. >> through all this, what do you think he has taught you. >> sometimes i have to learn to change and that's important being a dad.

>> what did you have to change. >> i was kind of hard on him in the beginning and then i have to change and say i need to ease up. he's there. he made it on his own. also he has grown up. >> finally, the moment he has been waiting for all day. >> here he goes, right here. >> he made it. just the fact that he's up now. >> what would you say to him right now?? >> i love you very much. have a great game. i'll see you when it's over. >> in every parents life there is a moment when there is nothing more you can do but watch maybe that's the best but hardest thing up of all. >> coming up some people found humor in yesterday's election. we will be right back with that.

>> tomorrow on the current, our project ripple effect looks at the unintended consequences of having a father overly involved in trying to turn a son into a professional athlete. >> we continue our simulcast of cbc the national in just a minute. >> a signature feature of book tv's are all day coverage of book fairs and festivals from across the country with top nonfiction authors. here's our schedule beginning this weekend. we are live in the nation's heartland for the book festival in madison. at the end of the month we'll be in nashville for this southern festival of books. at the start of november we are back on the east coast for the boston book festival. in the middle of the month we go to baton rouge. at the end of november we are live for the 18th year in a row from florida for the miami

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president joe biden said today he had privately urged president obama to order the raid that killed osama bin laden. that contradicts hillary clinton's account of what happened. here is what he said at a george washington form today. >> for the president and i and only two others in administration knew about this as early as august. we did not go for almost a year to get him. major players in the cabinet didn't know about it until january or february. so it was something that was a difficult call for the president. we sat in the cabinet room and at the end of the day, making

the decision he said i want everybody's opinion. everybody went around the room and there only two people who were definitive. there only two people who were completely certain. one said go and one said don't go. some ended up saying go but it was such a close call. i joked and said you all sound like 17 larry summers. they said what would you do? you're the third option. i didn't really think we should do, i said i think we should make one more pass to see. the reason i did is because i didn't want to take a position to go if that was not where he was gonna go. as soon as he walked out of the room and walked upstairs, i told

him my opinion. i said you should go but follow your own instincts. it would've been a mistake. imagine if i had said in front of everyone don't go or go in his decision was a different decision. it undercuts that relationship. >> thursday hillary clinton is on capitol hill facing questions about the death of four americans in benghazi, libya. watch a hearing live on c-span three and c-span.org. we will take you back now to the continuing coverage from the cbc and the national program and their election recap. >> the editorial cartoon often captures the moment perfectly. after last night's election

result, let's take a look. in the hamilton spectator, this appeared. in the calgary herald they wonder imagine if he had been ready. in the gazette it said just and true at all for news at any hour you can go to our website cbc news. coming up next, the nationals weather forecast. >> tonight on c-span2, jim webb and his campaign for the democratic presidential nomination. the senate debate immigration in sanctuary cities. and then a house hearing on preventing drug abuse. >> this sunday night on q&a. political reporter shares her

experiences from hillary clinton's campaign and compares what it's like now to back in 2008. >> to be honest i was a lot younger. i was the traveling person. i wasn't in a senior role. i also, when you're traveling all the time, i got to know the people who traveled with her. i felt like i got to know her pretty well because she would come back on the plane and talk to us. at the same time i didn't have the same sort of sources at the campaign and high-level people that i have now. now. whether that's a function of being at the times or a function of being in a more senior role. >> sunday night at eight eastern and pacific on c-span's q&a. >> today former senator jim webb dropped out of the race for the democratic presidential nomination. he left open the possibility of an independent presidential run. he made this announcement at the national press club. this is a half-hour.

good afternoon. howdy. let me start by saying several years ago senator daniel patrick wife sent me a wooden chain that had been used to put together the old school house on the rule farm where he wrote his books. we were talking about the kinship i felt with the senator and his thoughtful approach