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we are growing. some estimates showing her state population doubling by the year 2050. on average more than 600 people move to texas every day. a testament to the opportunities that exist in our thriving economy but a trend that requires improving roadway maintenance and capacity to meet the rising demand. doing nothing represents an unacceptable outcome and so i
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look forward to working with everyone on the conference committee and their house colleagues in particular to produce a multiyear highway bill for the first time in a decade. thank you mr. chairman. >> mickey senator and i know texas does have great needs down there. moving and growing and with that i would recognize mr. crawford for a statement. >> thank you mr. chairman and its stand everybody talks about working quickly. i ask unanimous consent to submit my comments for the record and neil back. >> did i miss that? with that senator barrasso. >> thank you chairman shuster and vice-chairman and often thank you for holding this important meeting for all the conferees. they also want to thank senator boxer cardin and congressman defazio for their hard work to get us here today. the senate bill called the drive
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that creates a program that will be critical to ensuring that the livery of goods and services and to move across state lines efficiently and safely. we allow bureaucrats in washington to decide which projects get funded we will inevitably created patchwork of interstate systems. i believe the senate position will help every state by distributing funding through the formula. if we want to maintain a highway system we must include rural states. miami we have a short construction season that typically starts in may and ends up -- ends in october depending on the weather so we need to give our state's department of construction the time into plan as we continue to reconcile the differences between the house and the senate bill. i urge the committee to ask where the long-term bill. i look forward to working with everyone to get this done. >> thank you senator and with that recognize the chairman of the senate finance committee
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senator hatch. >> thank you mr. chairman and chairman inhofe as well and thank you to the rest of my colleagues. >> could you speak into the microphone a little bit more? >> i want to thank all the rest of my colleagues on both sides of the hill all of whom deserve credit for their hard work and in getting us this far. ever since safety bill was enacted more than 10 years ago most consider the prospect of a long-term infrastructure built to be dim at best and here we are on the cusp of enacting the longest multiyear highway bill since 2005 obviously in many respects we still have quite a ways to go. while the house and senate have passed good ills that are worthy of the praise they have received a think most of us would still like to see us establish dedicated funding stream to pay for infrastructure so we are not continually trying to cobble
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together offsets to pay for roads and bridges. my hope is that we will still keep this long-term goal in mind however this conference is successful this legislation will be a tremendous accomplishment. i think for everybody and will give each of our states a degree of stability that they have not had for many years. it will be a significant win for good government and while there might be some who have issues with some of the individual offsets or the differences in funding levels between the senate and the house bills, i think it's important that we work together to accomplish what we are able to do right now which is to pass a multiyear funding bill but then the baseline established by each of the senate passed bills. without stable foundation in place there'll be ample time to continue working on infrastructure funding and financing issues only now we won't have to do that work staring into the abyss of insolvency. we must not take what we have
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accomplished so far for granted. the chambers are coming into this conference with a bipartisan bill to pass an overwhelming majority. now's the time to show that we can follow through. finally let me say while it will be difficult i believe we can pass this legislation before the current extension expires and i would take some effort but i think it's a very achievable goal one that although should have in mind as we proceeded with that let me thank my colleagues once again for their hard work. i look forward to working with all of you is remove business process and is been a privilege to work with everybody so far. thanks for listening to me. >> thank you senator hatch. appreciate your remarks on finding a long-term solution to the highway trust fund. as soon as we get the president's signature we have to work in earnest to make sure we figure out the stakeholders, how we get to a funding source that
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we don't have to go through these every five or six years finding money behind the couch in the cushions so thank you very much for those words. with that i recognize ms. johnson for an opening statement. >> thank you very much mr. chairman and let me thank all of the leadership who have gotten us to this point. to address our critical infrastructure needs. i look forward to working with you and her colleagues on this conference committee to complete work on a long-term bill that will provide much-needed certainty from state, local governments and agencies. since 2009 congresses past 35 short-term extensions reauthorizing programs. this has not only undermine their ability to make long-term decisions about the future of our nation's transportation infrastructure, but it has also driven up the cost of projects while delaying and halting
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our -- entirely. a timely transportation systems are challenged by infrastructure , declining revenues and increased usage making long-term investments in our transportation infrastructure is absolutely vital. one way we can achieve this is by providing access to reliable and robust financing, in recognition of this fact one of our key priorities is to ensure that the tifia program has added funding to -- unfortunately the measure before us today significantly reduces the tifia program and i urge my colleagues to consider only the highest possible funding for this program so that we can ensure that financial support is readily available. as the ranking member of science and technology committee in the house i recognize that long-term viability and transportation
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system also largely rests on quality research. any legislation should be absent of any provisions that inhibit this goal of funding new research or obstruct the department of transportation's ability to promote new innovations and finally safety along our highways should be of the utmost importance as we move forward. a conference of transportation network must include safety of the traveling public and ensure that the federal and state authorities make important safety considerations. it is my hope that we can continue to work in a bipartisan eye camera manner on a bill that will provide a safe local governments in transit agencies with the certainty they need to plan long-term projects. this bill is important to the
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american people and to our economy to enact a long-term bill that adequately invest in our transportation infrastructure and intern in our future. i think you and i yield back traded. >> thank you ms. johnson for your statement and now i go to mr. barletta. >> thank you mr. chairman. even the members of both the house and senate the senate offer long-term solutions to our highway trust fund shortfall it is irresponsible that neither the house or the senate have worked on serious reforms. we have not adjusted to the user pay for infrastructure in 20 years. or considered innovative revenue streams. instead we have spent viable time searching for short-term gimmicks. we should not be lobbying the bank's homeowners are customs to pay for roads and bridges. this is fiscally responsible. at some point we have to say enough is enough. that time has come. we need a long-term robustly
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funded will. i'm hopeful that this bill will provide communities the tools that they need to invest in america's infrastructure. i was happy to work with chairman shuster and ranking members the fazio on important roadway safety issues such as preventing heavier trucks on driving on our local roads and ensuring that we always on the highway safety improvement program. this program invested infrastructures like guardrails rumble strips and reflective signs. while you will never read in the headlines of your newspaper rumble strips saves family of four this program saves lives every day and for that reason alone should not face cuts in the senate bill. additionally the house bill includes commonsense provisions to make sure farm vehicles are not regulated like long-haul trucks. makes crude oil being transported by freight and rail safer and gives first responders more time to react in the
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unlikely event of a derailment. finally, many of the policy ideas that i introduced in the safer trucks and buses act were incorporated. critical that safety scores are not publicly displayed for buses and trucks. investing in infrastructure is good for the local economy and good for america and i commend the committee. >> thank you mr. barletta and now it's my pleasure to recognize for an opening statement senator durbin. >> thank you very much chairman shuster. i want to thank chairman inhofe ranking member boxer in the fazio and other members of the conference committee who worked hard to bring this to this day. i want to apologize for my speaking today -- if issa at a beer for breakfast is because i just came from the dems office. we have seen progress in passing a long-term service transportation bill. i look over to working with my colleagues to keep the momentum moving.
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this conference will be able to finish the bill help rebuild their infrastructure and our economy. i'm going to ask that my statement be hard of the record without objection so i won't read it in its sincerity because i know other members are wanting to speak but i do want to say this was truly a bipartisan effort in the senate. initially there were perhaps six or seven senators supporting senator boxer in this effort but as we worked through it on a bipartisan basis at the end, 27 democratic senators supported his this effort more than a majority and then of course the substantial majority of the republican site so what we bring to this conference is truly a bipartisan effort. i see congressman lipinski is here and i'm sure he will recount the importance of this bill to the state of illinois and to the midwest that i won't go into detail on it. it's critical for us not only in highway money for transit money as well as money for our bus services around the chicago
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metropolitan area and around the state. finally as i look at the wall here and see the paintings of some of the portraits of some of the former chairs i realized that i knew most of them and served with many of them and i can recall when this highway bill was one of the easiest bills to pass on capitol hill. this committee for public works committee was one of the largest if not the largest. members could wait to get on the committee and then in the name of reform eliminated earmarks and things changed overnight. this became a debating topic. i happen to be one of record who believes that congressional input in terms of projects in your district and in your state is valuable. i think i know a little bit more about about illinois then any bureaucrat who works for the u.s. department of transportation and maybe even the illinois department of transportation but i will say that debate for another day. let me just say this. i believe we have a critical role to play.
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i think the federal government leadership in this area is essential. in our state about 80% of highway construction is paid for with federal funds. for those who believe they should be strictly state and local responsibility i have three words. dwight david eisenhower who decided an interstate highway system was critical not only for national defense that the growth of our national economy and history has proven him right that i hope we can reaffirm our commitment to our transportation system. i think the chairman for his kindness and allowing me to say a few words. see i thank you senator and i don't know if you heard there was a muffled applause when you talk about congressional spending and i would certainly agree with you on president eisenhower and what he did going back to lincoln and beyond is a federal responsibility responsibility to be part of that team so thank you for being here today and i would like to mention two you being here means the senate participated 100%. i would like to say the same for my house colleagues so thank you
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senator durbin. with that ms. edwards is recognized for an opening statement. >> thank you very much mr. shuster and also to senator inhofe for today and for your commitment to the long-term surface transportation reauthorization. as a member but the transportation and infrastructure committee and the science committee i look forward to working with you and the other members here to send a good bill to the president. for decades or transportation network was robust investment in research and development at its core supporters strong american economy. transportation innovation stretched across all modes from advances to highway pavement material to mass transit technology to innovate of railroad track and pipeline and likewise in the transportation systems research connected vehicle research and autonomous research to make transportation safer faster and more environment with friendly for the 21st century. making her the structure work
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smarter for us is critical and as the representative of maryland for the district i am personally invested in a federal efforts to make congestion in this fast-growing region as well as across the nation encouraging innovative transportation technologies and -- start with sustainable funding for basics and apply research and development at the department of transportation. and its research partners such as the university of maryland. i'm concerned about that both the house and senate both contain provisions that tax existing r&d programs to fund new deployment programs or otherwise put research funding at risk by moving it out of the highway trust fund. i'm agreed that the additional deployment activities are worthy investment but research funding in this bill is far below the needed level. we don't protect research investment today we will not have that the planet ready technologies that we will need 10 years from now.
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the bills before us to include several important provisions which i support. among them providing new and direct federal oversight, transfer of metro or appointments to the u.s. department of transportation, enabling planning agencies to mitigate stormwater impacts increasing funding for distributed to local government for continued funding for small business contract opportunities for minorities and women business programs and i do look forward to continuing our work on these efforts. thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you ms. edwards and without we go to mr. farah told for an opening statement. santa thank you very much mr. shuster. investing in this country's infrastructure should be a top party for congress. as a member of the house transportation and infrastructure committee i was delighted to work on the important passage of a multiyear transportation bill which is critical to all those responsible for maintaining and using america's roads and bridges. this bill provides more
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flexibility and certainty for states and local government accelerates project delivery and promotes innovation to make our transportation programs more effective. in my own state of texas we have seen massive growth both in population and in our economy which presents a major and unique challenge for state to build and maintain our current and future infrastructure. with major projects underway such as completing interstate 69 rebuilding the harper bridge in my hometown of corpus christi and ensuring reliable access for waterways and ports is critical to get to work on completion of the conference report. you must also continue to support innovation in our transportation system. the 21st century is going to be very different. we are going to sail through to fuel vehicles using battery power and natural gas or other fuels. thomas vehicles in a shared economy will also be part of her 21st century transportation and we need to pave the way for these innovations. i'm honored to be selected as
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cumbrian look forward to working with my colleagues to find a great way to meet her 21st century transportation needs for texas internation and i yield back. >> thank you mr. farenthold then i recognize mr. larson for an opening statement. >> thank you mr. chairman. in washington state transportation means jobs and investing in a roads, bridges and highways and transit systems puts people to work and keep the economy moving. one of the issues that's important in washington's adequate funding for ferry boats. are a lifeline interstate and not a luxury. thousands of people might district and throughout the state and the country is very both everyday to get to and from work and i agree that additional funding for the system is a key part of a final agreement particularly if there's a move to change the funding formulas within the ferryboat program. another major issue that i hear about is the trouble that smaller and midsized cities have competing with bigger cities for
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federal resources. the house bill includes language i offer that creates an expedited application process for smaller projects that want to use financing that i believe will help smaller cities in my district compete for federal systems. it will help pedestrian products get funding. sidewalks trails and bike lanes are critical parts of the transportation network. less than 2% of federal transportation funding goes to transportation alternatives programs but committees that leverage small funds get good results. it's another critical part of the network or transportation of people depend on to get to work and school each day. it's important that changes made in the house bill to require competition nationally for transit funding. finally appreciate that both bills for crude oil traveling by rail and her bridge infrastructure. i hope we can push push forward a book of his issues which are important to my district and i
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are important to my district and i want to echo ms. brown's comments regarding important metrics. thank you for your leadership mr. chairman the full committee and i look forward to the opportunity to weigh in and i yield back. >> thank you mr. larston now i recognize mr. nadler for an opening statement. santa thank you for my colleagues successfully getting this transportation bill to congress. first and foremost we must determine the overall funding levels but according to toc there's a 1 trillion-dollar that was of need some highways bridges at transit and rabbit keeps growing and neither has done much to address it. the senate bill is not much better. everyone wants a long-term bill for liability and planning but that still the preferable option if we allow flatter minimum funding. that's a for five-year bill and a higher funding that would be a better -- i'm proud of the program was created in the house bill which provides dedicated funding for large-scale
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multilevel projects that are critical for our regional and national economy. their there are number of transit issues that must be addressed if to support the final package that the amendment offered on the house floor eliminates the high density apportionment under transit section 53 port he ignored to provide more funding programs. i would like to note although the amendment passed by voice vote it is not without controversy. section 5340 provides critical funding for communities all around transit dependent states cutting section 5340 whatever stray transit service not only in new york and syracuse but also in places like aberdeen maryland new hampshire and allentown pennsylvania. nafta and the amp bipartisan delegation of new jersey delaware rhode island new york and maryland urged congress to reject these harmful cuts in section 5340. it should go without saying that
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in an environment where funding is limited to simply cannot make drastic changes in state allocations and cut funding so deeply communities around the country. it's not fair and it's not sound economic policy and will jeopardize the bill's passage. new star should be treated equally to other transit projects and we must carefully manage provisions relating to motor carrier safety and environmental mining. finally there's a bipartisan effort underway which i very much support to include the 9/11 compensation program in the final conference report. congress must act to reauthorize these programs before the end of the year. legislation to permanently reauthorize already has two to 48 co-sponsors in the house and the filibuster proof 65 co-sponsors in the senate. it would ensure the programs not close their doors on respondents and survivor so i urge their inclusion in the urged the session of section 5340 the senate version of the bill and i
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think you and i yield back. >> thank you mr. nadler. i now go to mr. gibbs for an opening statement. >> thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you mr. chairman another like to thank chairman shuster and ranking member defazio and inhofe and boxer for the hard work in bringing these bipartisan bills to the conference committee. i'm proud to support this legislation as a reduces red tape and migratory birds streamlining components included in map-21. the star act includes necessary reforms to the complaint safety and accountability program. we have heard from constituents that this program has flawed methodology and what impact their businesses negatively. i am encouraged by their form to revamping the methodology as we step forward to make the system work and give fair judgment to our carrier operators. mr. chairman the water subcommittee on the environment,
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glad her senate colleagues include important change in the finance division at otherwise known as libya in the drive that traded to loan guarantee pilot program was authorized in 2014 to provide additional funding source for drinking water wastewater and water for structure projects. each dollar loan leverages at least $10 making these loans extremely beneficial to communities that have major challenges with the water infrastructure projects. the drive act allows communities to use the loans in combination with tax-exempt bonds and bring more opportunities for structure so i hope it's included in the final bill. finally a simple amendment i offered on the floor directing the department transportation to study the process of state determined sewer materials is
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included in the star act. congress is maybe unique process in recent years with changes in safety louis toyman. provided these changes i think it's beneficial study that determines how the cost environmental and engineering principles affect the state's procurement process. look forward to working with my colleagues on the committee to reach a final agreement to pass the first long-term highway bill and decade by retaining important reforms in the surface transportation policy and i yield back. >> thank you mr. gives and ms. napolitano is recognized for statement. >> thank you chairman shuster and i'm sorry we lost congressman defazio. >> i'm not sure if we have lost him. i'm trying to pick out whether he went by his own accord or whether we cut them off. i'm not sure. >> thank you also to chairman inhofe and senator boxer for
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their extraordinary work work you have done collectively and i associate myself with remarks of my colleagues with regards to this six-year bill and how commending you have been to getting this worked done. i'm honored to be on the committee and i have had input from stakeholders including the economic partnership to construction authority. the gateway services of l.a. l.a. metro and california caltrans on their behalf from requesting the following issues be held in conference and i ask unanimous consent with the chairman listed these requests be placed on the record. i referred to section 1419 included in the house provision. we also look at the state states labor in section 1401b of hov degradation. we also look at allowing
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coordinated structure 44 transit agencies to continue working on this two-tier structure. we also look at improving with bipartisan support with congressman ryan to improve medication and air quality programs for metro planning organizations. section 27011 response plan consulting the state. the senate level of 300 billion for transportation for structure for tifia support language of eligibility projects with congressman gibbs 1432 sewer materials. ..
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>> now this generation and asks our children to pay for our roads and bridges maybe we should pay for our own. it is time for this committee, we didn't have jurisdiction on the transportation committee but we do here. stand up and pay the bill if we take it is important enough we should pay for it. i yield back. this. >> we have said that we need
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to do that for our country to do that the runway -- the right way but we are doing a good job and thank you for your work by m honored to be a conferee. volume police we're starting with to bipartisan bills to conference with dash finalize the conference report during the market's ban on the floor with a core capacity programs the changes that were delayed with deadly have a bill to build up their capacity to serve the writers well. with this safety rules to preserve increase funding and technical assistance eligibility within zero a mission buses am also of
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number the house bill contains language that creates a regional transportation center to connect the infrastructure. connected vehicles are a big part of a solution to alleviate congestion and improve safety this will become more prevalent we should be doing more research into the opportunities into automated and connected vehicle systems. the interagency working group in improvements of proposal regulations in the private programs. the bill is not perfect starting with the needs for hire authorization.
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i am pleased to see freight programs and the conference report read to allow for a series of integrated pieces it it must the multi modal. after all we will be funding not just the highway trust fund. we have our work cut out for a silent toward to rolling up my sleeves and my tie is a statement and i am happy to have been included in this bill. >> through the of leadership of the remember there's a strong bill to make a significant improvement butted the opinion i still have work to do my hope this
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isn't an exercise in futility. i expect all conferees to have a say and many issues have yet to be resolved. hoping that legislation is not concocted there backroom deals and handshakes that is that the purpose of a conference committee. members want to participate. one thing this legislation does not address is the threshold and in this day engaged it is not dated throwback to the economy of 80 years ago. this was first passed 1931 crippling regulations is something this conference must address the independent trucking companies have an arbitrary increase with the
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minimum insurance requirements to have notes jurisdiction whatsoever in that process. we must ensure the final product to uphold our efforts as well. companies to compete for transportation to shift away from a monopoly in the public transportation sector. pas -- --. >> thanks to all the ranking members but to agree my chair and ranking member for go looking at them ntb idea of the movie the sleeper and the picture of the leader that was not present but always there of the ball.
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if you like to read with a few air of the prague that are left. i have learned from the opening remarks that mr. duncan should be the engine and also mr. schuster i would like to encourage this bill for the cruise vacation hub of america i would like to emphasize some i'd like the amendment to be maintained to provide local transit systems for the eritreans and services over the next five years with in 1 million troops will return to life and also with an aging population that is my
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easter seals and the paralyzed veterans of america support that amendment which is in the bill of the house side. and i hope the conference committee ceps those developments eligible for programs it is important for the indirect and with good planning people will likely use the programs that vernier -- or near. i am proud to be a member of the committee and i yield back the three seconds that i have left. >> 84 organizing this meeting. i am pleased the house and senate are coming together for the transportation bill and thank them for their hard work.
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the infrastructure is in dire need of investment to accomplish a short-term extension this approach is a certain end is not a sound method to run the government. although i encourage an extremely concerned by the funding levels of each. those that meet the new rates of the highway trust system. also for the most densely populated states, new jersey is the most densely populated state in the country. the community that i am livid 21 square miles of 51,000 people. with in hoboken another with
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51,000 people and jersey city is the largest populated in the state. we rely heavily on transit for every day to the irritation the take it off is reckless to push buttons out of where it is most needed. to submit a plate impair the ability to a field with the capital program needs to maintain the state of good repair and maintenance the final report should not contain any provisions to these agencies and i think the chair for the hard work. >> thanks for your hard work to kraft this bill is a
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pleasure to survive this committee with my first year in congress capped off by what i consider to be a landmark legislation from almost a decade of short-term extensions instead of long-term fixes. bin to be changed by amendment to eliminate the of funding and the second state to receive funding to provide half of all trades in this country to insure that states receive the funding they need with the robust three of this system. controlled by the department of transportation would wreak havoc on the most heavily used areas of the country.
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veterans it agency is cover the 20 percent minority faces dire financial difficulties. that cost to be inflicted upon the northeast including those in this district. we need to act. we should act to restore this program this is how the federal system is supposed to work. they should get more transit funding as of more agricultural but if it supports the farm bill that is the way it goes. if we don't act half the nation's transit users will instantly be worse off. if we don't the economies that are the four most drivers better highly dependent on transit will suffer greatly the nation's economy will suffer as a result. we should act because it is a prudent thing to do. we need to get back to the
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spirit of cooperation to ensure they receive unanimous support. they give for your consideration he could travel his district by foot but i will travel by car as it is upstate new york. >>. >> thank you for your leadership this is a foundational bill to get the rest of the key years with transportation in my encouragement to make that as long as certain as possible. to make this as serious as possible. the ups headquarters there
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so these are issues when you have skin in the game you come together as of a price tag you cannot put that price tag on the family time you cannot have the price tag on a lawful community this is the beginning of the and. and now for days with others have been able to do over decades. so with the work of my colleague syllable sides of the aisle has continued and i am grateful to be a
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partner if they want to pay their fair share to get $1 worth of value out of federal taxes. that is what the bill aims to do. >> thank you mr. chairman. texas is a growing state which i represent the 36 district the fact it will double the population that we have the potential for unlimited growth and expansion because the biggest thing holding us back is transportation. period we indeed that all. in my district alone with over the petrochemical facilities more than any other district in the entire
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nation. to manufacture products and equipment so all over the world. the reason why texas has created board than half of the new jobs over the last decade. but they are not just pull big businesses to get to school and not just sit in traffic. banks to the committee for cooperating with requests that i put forward to read this bill better for america in texas. it hasn't always been easy with this bill the region all be proud of and with that i yield back. >> thank you, mr. chairman chairman.
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the new here to have this group for word as day general engineering contractor 20 years the uncertainty that can cause in this economy. to be built around short-term patches that is why i stand with my colleagues to offer my support from the day i was assigned from the transportation committee it was my primary goal. after months of hearing these conversations to float it is a forward piece of legislation. this designation is vitally
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important for my state of nevada but also the country. we need to keep focus on the mechanisms moving forward. is not sustainable to the industry relies so heavily on long-term planning. and i support the lake tahoe language but the tax-exempt bonds. in tune with the use of credit as any indication to have all members implied figure mr. chairman.
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>> i appreciate the opportunity to be here. thank you for your leadership on this bill read the importance of having a certainty is critical. to make them more expensive with cost taxpayers money with your ultimate outcome of the important to restructure.
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for those that our important from the freight perspective the only place it in the nation going from california to florida go to google maps it is ridiculous what is happening. so the fact we're in that than is a result as a lack of state priorities and investments as well as for infrastructure. we have seen in the past for infrastructure for the national economy with gasoline prices spite nationwide we need to make sure these investments are resilient and have the proper capacity. we need additional wayans a additional funding went to importance the role because
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play for our existing utilization the vegetative many steps further it is important to proceed to use the solution to properly utilize that excess capacity and wesley as mentioned, we need additional funds for the highway bill. we cannot continue to under and best with the hired by jeff funding streams creates much bigger problems in the future. >>.
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>> congratulations to you end drinking member for your hard work and i am honored today to represent the committee of the tax policies to aid a long-term highway bill but for too long to fail to pass a long-term solution on the limits are potential but has consequences for state and local economy. to depend on a strong transportation system to move goods if not in place
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read this losing out to foreign competitors. with a global economy getting goods to market the ports slowdown resulted in customer relationships and in my area millions of dollars of high-quality produce going to waste. with estimated $100 million that was no longer sellable. reavis insurer that we're strong to move the goods to what transports them to consumers overseas. i hope this is finished -- an issue we can address and focus more resources on responsible road safety
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including those to use the safe transportation of crude oil to work with states to redress of secure votes. there may be a disagreement i will follow the common objective will help us to move past these differences that the american people can be proud of on the people's desk. i yield back. >> mr. smith. let the big hero been with the senators of the two high with bills it is essential be find a way to the interstate his rotation system.
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that it continues to route through stability with the quality of life for citizens. i appreciate the time and effort that has dogged to finalize that effort the long term transportation bill. but the provisions of the house and senate bills divert research money away to find employment in demonstration initiatives. this already reduces the scarce dollars available for innovation. in to require robust research plans at the department of transportation. event is part of the science committee. had of that subcommittee by
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voice vote and a that result from are in the efforts ultimately benefit the constituents we represent. i expect there to be further discussions by our staff as we continue to work cooperatively particularly under the jurisdiction of the science committee. in real afford to working with you in the senate. with those concerns of the surface transportation conference. >> to the infrastructure committee is that i thank
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you to speaker wright and for this legislation is to look at that historic legislation allocates for artur represent with the agreement. to have that transportation system with those cars and trucks they rely of their cars each day to safely transport their families. and then to work and next-generation to protect the public to make the roads
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safer. and just to reduce crashes for. to share in the responsibility that americans are holding on for a longer period of time. the average age of the cars is 11 and 1/2 and expected to gross 12 years. with that greater longevity of cars of the road if we can resolve our differences we can better protect the lives of the public the public for virtue working with my colleagues and i yield back. >> did you yield back? you may guess that was
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written in the bottom line. [laughter] >> yorktown recognized. >> i thank my colleagues for the opportunity to produce a multi-year transportation bill. we are challenged to reduce traffic congestion around the area that we deal with every day. with the science said dick elegy committee with the development for portions to associate myself with the comments made from the sun and sand technology committee regarding the surface transportation development act it and i would also like to thank the chairman for including portions of the bill one is
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a bad traffic congestion. my goal is to ensure those portions of the bill will produce the results of traffic challenges that we all face. >> the last not least as the desire to serve the first one i was heard a the camera was. so that a set that was almost out the door so this is the first time so 14 years later. you are recognized for your statement. >> also to the ranking member progress a new member of congress by a mobile am
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grateful for the opportunity to be here today in reply to thank the speaker for selecting me to participate on the house natural resources committee also my colleagues in their jurisdiction for their hard work to get double the year transportation bill through each chamber. my constituents plunder stand out important a long-term transportation bill is for economic growth. the opportunity to improve the transit programs while investing in infrastructure is a tremendous step in the right direction is the backbone of our economy. it is critical we provide long-term certainty as repairs if the grades to the networks are planned end executed. 42% of the major roads are in poor or mediocre
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conditions costing 3. $7 billion per year of operational costs. as we work with irreconcilable differences to streamline provisions with updates to infrastructure of federal and tribal land. then that would benefit all americans. >> with that their ardor no other members your. it is a the same without you sitting next to me adding commentary. sometimes it is so colorful we cannot turn on his microphone. we look forward to having you back here after the thanksgiving recess.
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thanks for joining us today. the goal from the beginning to get this to the president indelicate the stakeholders it and we have to sit down with a solution that everybody can agree to. that we can live with to sustain the highway trust try and long term to make sure the members of both legislative bodies maybe not next year but there year after. so after december 4th we will come together and figure out how to move forward.
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we have a lot of work to do. miss waters just what did. do you wish to make a statement? you beat the gavel. city where you want. >> thank you. this watters is recognized for a statement. >> debut very much fakes for coming together to reauthorize the export-import bank urging them also includes a package of 17 bills previously backed by the house under
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pip the senate. pas items of the policies behind the measures for those consumer protections are invested. so how we pay for this bill i find it difficult to understand this is the credibility of the central bank for those that our unwilling to raise the gasoline tax. to have the dividend payment with the federal reserve redefined sets a horrible precedent to respond to events i believe that we would put the cost of building bridges and roads of the backs of those of all
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this to lead the that the on freddie mac a and fannie mae. but neither imposes housing taxes they do and i yield back. >> happy thanksgiving especially staff. we will see you when we get back. we stand adjourned. [inaudible conversations]
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>> kissinger is an oddity of the '50s but it is his contribution so with the systems analysis snaky is interview with the council foreign relations former editor and author of the book islamic state the digital caliphate.
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♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] thank you. so amazing. so amazing. by the way we love tom. she is great. and the great winner you are lucky to have him. we'll talk for a long time to believe there are 3,000 people are outside coming in
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now how about a way in one hour until they get him and? go. will just say they are late. here is my great veteran friend. is everything good. we will take care of our veterans. i will tell you that. [cheers and applause] me just came down they keep saying the press but actually a 25. and the massachusetts poll 48 percent trump 9% somebody
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else. [laughter] tuesday that started because people want to see good things to happen. is very smart. somebody said it off. the net with his six bin nine men is 16. then the talking heads say he has plateaued. i hope that. i want to a plateau. with the people pouring in this is a movement is for
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the message we want to win again. so a few minutes ago, fox ago, fox, we like fox paypal with their poles it is brief and to do. trump 27, rubio second place 31 cars and nine. he is going down. you have pisidian to know your foreign policy. [laughter] but with you think of rubio.
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it has the worst voting record in the united states i was from florida i would be very eager agree. today he is the california fund raising and it is interesting it is almost more important getting ready for homeland security issues. he is raising money by itself and the my own campaign i don't have to raise any money. is very interesting. i said to somebody p.m. other day, i was in iowa. to take millions and millions to be offered.
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but these super pacs are a big scale of. and those that give them money totally control the candidate. i disavowed all super pac i had nine or sioux city, iowa. maybe a 25 percent were legitimate 75% to knows what the hell they would do with it but we disavowed we don't want it. [cheers and applause] i said to the people i said to those is in iowa of let's have a deal. to take billions said millions of dollars in the
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promise it will not affect me. can i do it? they went nuts. they said no. for somebody like me. to give 5 million or 2,000,010,000,000 is they don't care about the country some represent other countries sought represents businesses they want to get their clients the right to vote see a special interest is a lobbyist and donors that have total control over these people that are running for office.
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nobody knows better than me because i have done that. nobody has been there like i have. i was total establishment they come to the office, a $250,000 to the republican governors association. 100,000 shortly thereafter again to the republican governors association. millions of dollars that you spent the and when you called they treat you so nicely. when you see dash stuff stuff, wait until you see what i do. you will be so proud of me. [applause] in one way a hate to say a bid is smart i have spent less monday and have the best results. [cheers and applause] right?
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in one way people say we would like you to spend more ready. i haven't had to. when you were lead they needed every single poll national though i was cater now i am beating in iowa. [cheers and applause] id very big in new hampshire. unbelievable. big south carolina. the first three nevada came out today leading with hispanics in nevada at. [cheers and applause] i have been saying that. meeting with african-americans at a point that nobody has ever gotten the numbers at 25%. [cheers and applause] somebody said if you have 25 percent of the african-american vote as a republican bill forget the miami republican, the
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election is over. is over. then they come out with north carolina, south carolina, other places against hillary we are killing her in all these states. [cheers and applause] crazy. so let's talk about our country you will just have fun these four people by the time they are in there will hear the final sentence that is make ameritech rates again. [cheers and applause] that is what it will be. -- make america a great again. >> i love you to. how beautiful. thank you i was so focused
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on trade i am doing greater. to let get the iran deal but one of your rover got it done. john kerry did not read the art of the deal. [laughter] so he makes one a the worst deals that have ever seen over one of the $50 billion going into iran would about self police aspect? the other is 24 days to have been fitted number of days
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what about our prisoners? $150 billion and we don't get our prisoners back. they didn't want to because we don't want to complicate the negotiation. by the way this is taking forever we're live prisoners back we want them back we want them it will set a good tone to make that better deal. your people don't even know that they have them. and we did not ask. i guarantee if i were negotiating that deal even as secretary of state.
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>> unbelievable. i have been so involved. when you have a trade imbalance with the $500 billion per year the very smart people but would not say hill because it is embarrassing but you don't believe in free trade? we have the imbalance of $70 billion per year of $45 billion per year we will
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build global all. believe me. [cheers and applause] to it will be great. [cheers and applause] [chanting] but i have been talking about the wall for a long time we will build it. a real wall. it will be way up there. there but what good as good as the al will kill look --
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as good as a wall can look. it will -- club cop -- [applause] [chanting] >> they are so misguided. they don't get. so we will build a wall. it will be paid for by
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mexico. believe me when a depressant a lot of times to say you is very vicious into everybody has been done down. badly remember he attacked me. walker attacked me viciously and he got out. think of what i could do for the united states. they go down. with bobby jindal was vicious to me but i never met him. i was watching him last night i decided to get out of the race. step by step we get there.
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you will be so proud of the job that we do you will be so proud we will have made military to be so strong and powerful that nobody will mess with us. [chanting]
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[chanting] [chanting] >> thank you is in age from frawley much more exciting? [cheers and applause] that only adds to the excitement that is incredible what is happening though the matter where i go it is incredible the other night, what?
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you can hear? come over here. you have a lousy location in real-estate you would go bust. [laughter] i a understand. there is no feet over there so all over the country this is what is happening. we go to mobile alabama with 35,000 people the mavericks' arena in dallas. to fill up with the first days the matter where rigo every place is packed. it is so beautiful.
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it is like love. is loved in the room. here is what we're doing. i feel very strongly about trade it took a lot of courage to announce if you were successful you cannot run for president. you just can't. so we get those that earn successful running for president is not a good. it is not the mentality to make us a great trade deal. bin to be so proud that i had done that.
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and i am waiting like a madman. to notes i will run in your city to talk about illegal immigration that faces a tremendous problem to talk even about illegal immigration in turned out to be the biggest subject and then the san francisco shot in the back across el least five times may be more asking a wonderful young man going to college on a football scholarship he is shot in the face by a guy who just walked up to him in
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front of his father who is a friend of mine. his life was over. the most beautiful young guy. he is dead. viciously killed the. illegal immigrants a bowman actually a veteran 66 sherrill's raped and sodomized a and killed four weeks ago in los angeles. and thousands of other incidents. but more importantly and within to come into the country but they have to come legally. in the hispanic people are
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with in the leg with a 2% they don't want their jobs taken end obama. [booing] we had a great court victory. the was upheld two's least one over the obama executive order. they are terrific people. with a the border patrol's. stefano. -- sting and down. with their not allowed to. obama has been a disaster for this country.
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>> unless we get going and get smart that you need borders. so lots of things will happen. number one with immigration route they are all illegal immigrants they are out of here. speeseventeen speeseventeen and we have -- senator carter people are not supposed to be here. template in in the presence
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of we can take care of them they go back to where they came there never coming back what their country take care of them we're not pay paul -- paying the bill. [cheers and applause] that is one of the big points because am so tired to lose the of money end everything. but right now because of paris, nobody wants to say it. i tell the truth because if it doesn't work if it's okay. isis feel is important in a angelina for myself i had a nice life been going around from place to place.
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thank you. first of all, we don't have much time but second i honestly believe we can make our country great then it has ever been. to be great then it says ever ben. the migration is a catastrophe. hundreds of thousands people you have to see what is happening in germany. what the hell was she thinking? they are having tremendous cry when they didn't have it and villages are overrun. looked at the migration to study it and looked at it
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they will start infiltrating with women and children. i am the first one to bring it up. three weeks ago i said that is a shame. they are all men for pro there are so few women in so few children isn't as strong as they can be. what is going on? then look at paris from fighters six people per ago i said we have to get smart. they said the mastermind, i said he is dumb. he is not mastermind. [cheers and applause] that plays right into their hands. so all these kids in
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massachusetts this is a lowlife. he is a bum. i'll bet she doesn't have the 90 iq. he is of massive saw him that the press conference. stop calling these people mastermind. we have to take back the internet. we have a president that doesn't have a clue to says isis is contained. we are contained because we have no leadership. the internet is used better than we do because they're
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recruiting people. then the people about to fight and we let them back given to the country. where have you ben? comeback from two texas. house stupid are we? >> when they leave the country to fight for al qaeda or isis they never ever come back into this country again. ever. ever. [cheers and applause] but we have to take back the internet because they are literally brainwashing people they're brainwashing over youth to say this is what they want to do. we cannot let that happen and. they are misguided and innocent but then they hear the press you cannot allow
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the press to do that. we have to take back our country, our intelligence, the internet internet, we cannot let this happen speeseventeen -- senator carter --. [applause] its over jeb bush's over. is he is a nice person. though cares. the recently he said donald trump stowe is tough. that is what we need. we need a tough tone. [cheers and applause] i say it to. lee have people in the middle east having their
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heads cut off i got to know their people. that is the beginning topping off heads if you are christian everybody they drown them in cages. this has never happened. bb the middle ages or medieval times. you used to read about medieval times thinking there has never said anything like this. i said we have to knock the shatt -- shit at of these people. [cheers and applause]
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[chanting] we can do it "fast & furious". ray can do it well and with there again. civic i know one generals i want to be unpredictable. we are predictable. i want to be unpredictable all the polls say i and the best with the military, the best of foreign policy cover that is interesting because if you read the front-page today it said bin person is unable to renters the end foreign policy. they actually said this the he cannot comprehend
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understand and foreign policy purposes it is devastating. if you watched over the weekend with the understatement berkeley was devastating with the interview. but he cannot cop region for policy. he is nice probably who knows. i don't care we need somebody sharp and tough and smart to figure it out fast. fast. we are playing games. the problem we have is we are playing games. we don't have the luxury to go through what we have gone through the last seven years he was not suited to the president of the united states. he was not. i talked about then the other day very quickly to
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iowa i talked 50 minutes then they said that was too tough he wrote a book and he has a pathological disease. okay. that is a problem to me. he said he tried to hit his mother over the head with a hammer. i get it. he said he tried to stab somebody but hit the belt buckle. he said he hit somebody in the face really hard with a padlock it and that is why they want to elect him?
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and i say to think how i did not do it. i don't get the whole deal. what is the country coming to? many brilliant and smart and tough we need the right guy. [cheers and applause] [chanting] >> son to date they come out you should read it. the times and other things. read as many papers that they cannot comprehend what is going on that is real bad. can you imagine if somebody goes to office the realize he cannot figure it out?
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we have a problem. we have obama. that's right. he has never figured it out. then there are those that our ready but they are not the right people. i have made a tremendous amount of money and build a great company be member they said you would never run then iran and said he will never file the forms basically assigned to live away. i signed it. then they said you will never filed the financials you could take forever and get delays. he will last for the longest delay have the biggest statement ever filed and was done ahead of schedule.
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you are given 30 days to file with many extensions maybe he is not as rich as people thought. i am much the press was devastated they could not believe the numbers with the politician is of most so i did this tremendous thing because with a cave dash of i took good deep breath 00 atrium was packed with us.
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is my whole life will stage stage, let's go baby. but here we are. but i would file the fitted chills any way. the unbelievable company the most unbelievable assets 40 rose streets and the sixth avenue all over the place and a big judkins emphasis go actually it starts with
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five deaths and but maybe million but with the check they checked the tulsa it
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was imported bledsoe but an essential turned out to be great to. i of a private company now they know where a riot of worth the decisions will usher the but the reason it to a common dash talk about it we need that thinking in this country late tonight at
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needed because then is the mentality whether i am i so or not provide a i am naturally we have to take the our lawyer said all the time. said he is there dirty rotten trigger. it give them in read knew he was the trader the now the people were killed. six.
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in the old days, there is my man. steel but what did we do 50 years ago? a great veteran he its stock and. he is:six people killed and we give five people we knew he was of a trader because with the colonel interviews all the soldiers he dealt with they said he deserted. it is one thing to make a mistake. but they knew. we cannot do that anymore.
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>> so when i touched about but i feel i can do a great job. so with my official disclosure people said you
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could let them go. $230 million is needed to hear an infant to a million to his huge but since this is equivalent to incomplete -- to believe they about it. the new agenda if it and they're nothing. they cannot do anything they cannot bring us to the promised land it is not in
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their jeans. companies are leaving that this area here and merv work are especially used to be from the henry lahood and
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but this is people will not take kiwi would to go. there are politicians will act in move should -- who this in to relate days ago
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that doesn't work. at 17 the low-cost our country in dallas of the
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fortune zero of the bear if new the way the plant and is
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rooted called the democrat to date the in according to
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jury bernie sanders is caused by lowering the
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[chanting] but he went crazy. it is amazing. amazing. . . did
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it jeb bush was at the citadel military college in south carolina today. he discussed defense policy. he commented on the terrorist attacks in paris and outlined his plan for fighting isis. this is a half hour. >> [applause].
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national security is a very to the state of the republican and especially to those of us who plan on entering the military after graduation. i am uttered and excited to have the 43rd governor of florida here to speak with us today. it is a is a great concern to many cadets that the majority of the front runners in the race of the nomination do not have the experience to handle the threat we face with radical islam. today, we have the opportunity to hear from someone who is strong on national security, committed to protecting our country. governor jeb bush, is a man who travel and experience have evolved the kind of leader he is today. from this time is a 17 euro college euro college students studying abroad in guadalajara, mexico who he met his beautiful wife over 40 years. to his expenses a successful businessman businessman to his incredible feat of becoming the first republican to turn governor of
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the state of florida, governor bush is a man of strong leadership and sound judgment. as governor, is referred to as veto because he vetoed over 500 items items in the budget concerning wasteful spending. his leadership oversaw the creation of over 1.3 million new jobs. unified state in shambles after experiencing four hurricanes and 44 days. a compassionate conservative, governor bush spent countless hours tending to the needs of the fourth largest state in the nation. governor bush is a champion of domestic issues, strong military and conservative principle. he will bring compassion, integrity, hard work to washington. here to speak on the vital issue of national security, ladies and and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming governor, jeb bush. [applause]. thank you thank you.
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[applause]. thank you so much. grant, thank you so much, who knows grant is going to be going to have a semester abroad to mexico, you may be as lucky as me. get mary, i have been married 42 years. when i went to lyon mexico, it was love at first sight, i know the kid at something that is possible, trust me, it is. it was a life changing event and i hope you all have life-changing events as you go for it in you go forward in your life but i've been blessed to have. thanks so much for allowing me to come. i really appreciate the hospitality of the citadel and the privilege of addressing
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members of the corps of cadets. it is great to be here and i am proud to report that in the citadel spirit i have got to the parade deck around 6:00 o'clock this morning and went on a run with the guards. the next time a presidential candidates come by here, tell them that jeb set a new precedent. from now on, you, you cannot give a speech to cadets without first doing some pt. all of us, and for all of us what a privilege it is to be here this morning in the presence of war heroes throughout this room. for me, to be here in the presence of major general james livingston is an incredible honor. and the presidents of general livingston, you do not need reminders for me about military virtues. his character, and the character of our military is summed up in that one word on the metal he earned, valor.
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this marine did more than could ever be asked, gave it more than could ever be repaid, and i am incredibly honored to have his support. general livingston, it is always a blessing to be with you. [applause]. as we gather today, we do so with memories fresh from the atrocities in paris. the indiscriminate murder of people sitting outside the café, the slaughter of innocents outside the national soccer stadium. or at a concert hall. the merciless killing of women, children, and on armed citizens who only had the crime of living in freedom. our hearts are broken for the people of france. they are our oldest and first allies and we are joined together by shared values. like france, we we know the deep sorrow of innocent life loss due
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to terrorist brutality. what happened on the streets of paris on friday should not come or have come as a surprise. after all, all, we have seen isis expand its deadly reach in recent weeks to lebanon, egypt, and to turkey. to say nothing of the daily horrors faced by those who live under their control of syria, iraq, libya, and afghanistan. this brutal savagery as a reminder of what is next state in the selection. we are choosing the leader of the free world. if these attacks remind us of anything it is that we are living in serious times that require serious leadership. the free world needs to act. the last seven years under president obama has taught us that problems do not take care of themselves, in the absence of american leadership. during the state of the union
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address he declared we were stopping the advance of isis and soon they took from adi. last friday, he, he repeated the delusion that isis is contained just hours before they murdered 129 innocent people in paris. hours afterward they killed dozens in beirut. america has had enough of empty words, of declarations detached from reality, of an administration with no strategy, or no intention to win. here is the truth, you will not hear from our president. we are at war with radical islamic terrorism. [applause]. it is the war of our time, a struggle that will determine our faith of the free world. three months ago at the reagan library i warned that we needed
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to defeat isis, i am i the clear and serious strategy to eradicate it. the action i call for remain critical. we we must unleash the power of our air force by removing self-imposed restraints , enforce the no-fly zone, create safe zones in syria, allow, allow our special operation forces to target terrorist network and arm the kurdish forces. since the attacks in paris the demand for action to stamp out isis has right to lagrone. the united states should not delay in leading a global coalition to take out isis with overwhelming force as the words of french president has make clear, the united states will not be alone in galvanizing this global effort. militarily, we need intense fire efforts in the air and on the ground. while air power is essential, it cannot bring the results we
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seek. the united states in conjunction with our nato allies and more arab partners will need to increase our presence on the ground. the scope of which should be aligned with what the military generals recommend, not politicians. to be necessary to achieve our objective. [applause]. the bulk of these ground troops will come from local forces that we have built workable relationships with. finally, to take out isis we messed and asides brutal attack on his own people. if you want to deal with the refugee problem properly we need to create a safe and secure syria. let there be no doubt this is not point to be easy. some of of you in this room will serve on the front line of that fight against isis.
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against radical islamic terrorists. you will sign up for an uncertain fate on foreign fields of battle, because your country and the cause of freedom are calling you. for generations, american-led alliances, american diplomacy, american military power and american credibility defended the piece and deterred the violence. this is the way forward in our time as well. but for the united states, who is going to help our friends and allies in the middle east gain the upper hand against radical islamic terrorists like isis, al qaeda, and has block? but for the united states who will lead the effort for once and for all to stop iran's bid for nuclear weapons capability, his, his support for terrorism and its ballistic missile proliferation. but for the united states who will defend christians, religious minorities, and other
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persecuted people in the middle east and across the world? who will be the dependable friend of israel standing with them against the worst, if not the united states of america? the fate of millions, the security of our own people and the cause of freedom itself all depend on the decision we make in these coming years. bad things, and sometimes it really very bad things happen when america steps away from hard challenges. it is time for america's leadership again and that leadership requires a change in course. defending our national interest always involves risks. the greatest risk of all is the risk of military inferiority. today, today, that is the direction we're headed. the next president will take office after an eight year drawdown of military power and careless chronic neglect by the
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president and congress. you would would be hard-pressed these days to find any soldier, sailor, airman, or marine feels that washington is doing right by the military. and i agree. in a span of one decade our government will have had held 1,000,000,000,000 dollars from our national defense. there is no security rationale for these cuts or any kind of strategic vision. they are completely arbitrary. imposed by a process that everyone in washington claims to dislike but no one in washington has the courage to stop. in these years, we have seen cuts in defense that not only are automatic but also systematic, not only relentless but irrational. we are going from the cutting edge of military power to at the army secretary calls the ragged edge of readiness. the active army has 80000 fewer soldiers, half of our stateside
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marine units are not ready to fight. twelve air force planes qualify for antique license plates in virginia. the b-52, the backbone of our bomber fleet took its first flight when harry truman was president of the united states. as for the entire naval fleet it has shrunk to half the size it was at the end of the cold war. sometimes the big problems are summed up in one anecdote, here's a story that caught my attention. to conduct training exercises under our nato applicant agents in europe, american forces have been borrowing helicopters and other vehicles from our allies. really? we do not have enough of our hardware equipment even for training purposes. so the the brits are spotting us choppers. that is not just unsafe, that is
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embarrassing for the greatest country in the face of the earth. whatever challenges we face in europe or else or where we are not going to meet them with borrowed equipment. others are not following our example of military downsizing, china, to take the most obvious example has for years been spending heavily on warships, submarines, long range attack aircraft's, missile systems missile systems and other capabilities that threaten america's strategic position in the pacific. whatever china's designs are in all this we can safely assume it is not in our interest to draw down as they build up. president obama does not see a reason to change course. here in south carolina couple of weeks ago hillary clinton said that her foreign policy would be no more aggressive or forward leaning than his. let me tell you something, i reject that diminished view of america's role in the world, in my administration security for the united states will mean gaining and keeping the edge, in every category, old and new.
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[applause]. whether it is our command of the seas, the land, land, or the air, the space, or cyberspace, america's goal should be technical logical superiority beyond question. my plan is to maintain a force with -- such a forces needed but we must understand that sometimes deterrence fails. in such circumstances ideally after elements of american influence and power has been utilized, when the threat we face is an urgent one, and defeating it is in our national interest we must be prepared to use force. when we do use force it must be effective and our objective must be well defined. so that one deployment does not lead to endless others, or leave
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the job undone. any use of force will be purposeful. aimed only towards a victory and always with a heavy thump of american power, resources, resources, and resolve on the skills of war. [applause]. i have a plan for 21st century military to project that force. to prevail in conflict or better still to deter enemies and do deter conflict we must have the instant, readiness, and equipment to meet any challenge from any adversary. we do not need to be the world's policeman but we must restore our place as the leader and indispensable power of the free world. [applause].
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this is how we get there. no service branch has taken deeper personal cuts in recent years than the army which will soon have an active duty force of just 450,000 soldiers. that is not nearly enough to protect america's interests. so, as president i would as congress for an increase of 40000 active-duty soldiers. [applause]. under my plan the marines will be restored to an in strength of 186,000 fighters. imac because in a crisis, everything can't turn on the speed, we'll act to ensure
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dominance in air and naval forces. we will not allow our pilots to fly 20th-century aircraft into the face of 21st-century air defenses. we must continue to invest in america special operations command. in this complex fight against radical islamic terrorism they have demonstrated time, and time again their ability to capture and kill senior terrorists. to embed with, train, and enable local forces so a larger commitment of american forces is not required. like our military, america's intelligence agencies are overstretched and struggling to respond to technological advances by adversaries and harmful links of and leaks of sensitive information. i will give our corporation intelligence professionals, who too often go unrecognized, everything they need to support the war fighter and to get the job done. i believe in the principles that the greater our superiority in military power, the less likely it is that we will have to assert that power or be provoked into using it.
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our best president call that peace through strength. this principle applies through capabilities of every kind to which all require fourth site and sustained commitment. beginning immediately as president, i will work with congress to rebuild our military forces starting with our most urgent needs. a new generation of aircraft so our planes are not older than our pilots. a naval fleet, a larger one so that our sailors patrol in the strongest and safest shift ships on the seas. an acceleration of of our submarine program so that america will always be a quiet whisper in our adversaries here. improve missile defenses to do that and the growing threats against iranian and north korean missiles. cyber community occasion against anything against them so that we find threats before the threats find us. i will fight to restore the
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patriot act metadata program to ensure we have the ability to connect the dots between known foreign terrorists and the potential operatives here in the united states of america. [applause]. look, if there's ever time for such a product program it is now. yet too few in congress were courageous enough to defend this program when it mattered most. i have also laid out a plan here in south carolina just a few months ago to address the virginia scandal and it is a scandal. we need to modernize the department and empower vets with as many choices as they need to ensure those who serve our country are treated with the dignity they deserve when they return home. [applause].
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these are among the goals of the 21st-century military plan that i will put before the next congress. not because i seek war, but because we all seek peace. i believe the best policy for creating the conditions for pieces to develop the capability to wage a war with crushing force. however, we cannot and will not simply throw money at the problem. we need to reform the pentagon shedding over head from a different generation and adapted to our 21st century challenges. >> ..
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>> >> potential hackers and cyberthese government oregon state players need to understand what sort of response they will face
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should they attack as part of making good on this new doctrine we are required to develop our own capabilities that america's retaliation to a cyberattack would be certain and of state-owned -- davis one dash devastating. america has a policy some up in a single word. first, president kennedy explained i do not mean if or but or when but period. [applause] if they were to take command of our future we must ensure the military is first period once again. in the armed forces need to
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know support for the military is not another partisan issue and the commander in chief is not just another politician. in every circumstance to shortchange our military and our troops need to be certain the commander in chief has there back. [applause] i am mindful to have great traditions in charleston has a great history of a city where the civil war for shots were fired and the president abraham lincoln did so with humility. even knowing the greater price of surrender and as we gather in the aftermath medicis said this generation
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knew the cost of four but the even greater cost of acquiescence that this is no coexistence. to declare war on the western world you cannot negotiate with this threat we have one option to defeat [applause] >> we can take inspiration from the courage of france said those who liberated more than 70 years ago of the coast above the beach those of americans age one died to stop the evil of their time they traded their
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future for hours those grave markers would face west to the america they would never return not only at the price of freedom during our time some of you will protect that freedom from the evil we face today it is my mission that shaggy be sent into harm's way that you would be given every two will to wage war with these -- the bill for city efficiency. to have the support from washington as the american people as resolute as i will be to defeat radical islamic terrorism wherever it appears.
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>> protect our vital interest to defend the innocent so let us accept the task
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>> welcome back i hope you enjoy dinner. we've moved into the meat of the evening. seven years ago you may remember a first term senator with a charismatic manner and the inspiring life story elected president of the united states running in the campaign against a candidate from the other party a solid generation older than he was. the next year we may get a chance to super history repeats itself in such close proximity. the senator from florida and presidential candidate marco rubio. [applause] >> good to see you again. thanks for being here.
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started with the news from paris in the atrocities that took place on friday on the attacks speaking at the meeting in turkey president holland said it was enacted for changes of the french constitution to take aggressive actions to prosecute the war french warplanes are an action over the weekend calling for a complete the different approach how we deal with radical islam but above the by contrast sibley continue the same strategy we will intensify and his critics at home who have been criticizing him for not doing enough compared to
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what happened to france on friday is a fundamental change or a revision of what we're doing we're reducing and? ltd. doesn't require fundamental change the fact for the better part of a year-and-a-half but the of president problem is domestic politics iran for the presidency as its mandate to extract the united states for further integument to the middle east he wanted his presidency to say i got us out without any more entanglements but history does not stop. so as the issue has gotten worse and worse it will take a more robust engagement to turn the corner. a president rhetorically will not make that commitment or literally as well. you have seen tactical changes from the strategic
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point to view it still does not have a well-defined strategy toward isis in general you cannot pull together a global coalition only american leadership can give the allied is such a strategy. only we can lead such a coalition. facility is constrained by his ideology but also the domestic political consideration not wanting to read untangle in another conflict. and then to be confronted while largely based in iraq is in syria and libya. >> in years time what would you do? >> we can do this the right to go back to 2012 it is the argument we did not start
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the syrian civil war. it is a function the sudanese rebeling against the voskhod regime. and -- assad regime. this conflict will create a vacuum that kid be filled by radicals jihadist in foreign fighters that is why we believe we needed to do that so strongly in we did not know we have seen that play out ultimately i systole be defeated by the sunni themselves. they have to be the predominant force on the ground to beat them militarily but that will only have a chance of success if united states pulls together the coalition in the effort to do so.
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with that high profile network to criticize this to conduct operations to the propaganda it is an unstoppable force still in it but the president has a reauthorize special force. >> 50 special operators that i believe is insufficient number. ultimately the numbers the to be set by the tactician's that is their job to come up with a strategy entellus the numbers required to do so. i'll believe it is 50 it don't believe you -- the military commander said that is sufficient we need to agree airstrikes and maybe
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even moving into iraq. many death special operators on the ground it in the process and also the allies in jordan said arabia that will comprise the bulk of the ground force th will comprise the bulk of the ground force that has to be is to meet -- sunni lead ever. we will have been issued with the shia militia you can anticipate a coalition presence on the ground will trigger attacks from the shia against us as well. anticipate that. and/or anyone from the assad will be in power they are
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one of the many irritants that have caused prices to gain ground that is whether presence of russians further complicates. >> host: he dussek with a strategy that assad has to go so when president hollande called with cooperation on russia and united states. >> if you defeat basis antisexist still in power then you're dealing with another group to be any time in the future i am saying there is greater stability necessary to be no safe operating space you see what is happening largely under reported to bring foreign fighters it is perfectly positioned to go into
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syenite in egypt and into europe as well. libya has a growing problem as well with this. >> who is this? >> with his treatment of the. >> host: in particular is one of the irritants. that is what they have taken care of. as long as there is the assad and power the irritant will still be there to take a bid to do what is happening is it's our job to put it back together but we can be assured there are elements of the grout that they can organize or call last and ultimately conduct.
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>> if they are the only plausible alternative venue will strengthen anger get more attacks. >> assad has not been successful model. in fact, look at the russian conduct they have been against the non jihadist elements. that is what putin wants after e. white dash all the non isis spiders on the ground i'll think he is there personally and i am for the regime that is also see based they can be established in the middle east is a key component because or putin this is
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multifaceted to show the world to the power broker and allows the world to be distracted from the ukraine and also to appear as a strong global leader for the catastrophe. >> this is against the radical islam. >> if it's the same then to wipe out the non fisa spiders led dash -- isis biters. >> that could potentially as the islamic state has no ability as assad is using
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limited air forces. >> for those thousands killed by a assad i am not sure they would agree because this is to allow refugees to find a place to go that does not involve an unstable journey into europe where non assad syrians can organize themselves as an alternative to assad as the effective fighting force. they need a safe operating space the way people with the safe operating space is libya were the islamic state can establish. i want to be on the record about this part of their growing influence in afghanistan and competition for the taliban they're starting to percolate in
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pakistan that is a dangerous development since it is a nuclear arms state also to foster sectarian strife we were seeing greater increase read on their part to have the clear goal to be positioned this is a group that is not conditioned - - condemned it is already shown in external operations as well. >> and leroy incapable to discourage the russians. >> but that is their choice to have a superior voluntary capability.
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>> those that are there for the purpose for the islamic state and then to have no reason to go over the no-fly zone. >> host: what about the united states? to see how all palpable this is domestically they are french citizens. al vulnerable is the united states do this type of attack? >> we are vulnerable it could happen at any moment or any time we just know that this is true there is an element that has the capability to do so. the danger is multifaceted
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those that had been said here for a specific purpose is this the other facet to gain inspiration with publications put out to conduct an attack that is why our intelligence programs are so important bellies to apply colleagues are aspiring to the presidency just to the last month and a half with a weakening of our capabilities leaves america of vulnerable and that is what has happened. through a combination of disclosures by edward snowden also to the weakening of our own programs that are phased out
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as a result of actionable intelligence. >> but the issue of surveillance have been very emphatic with privacy it is important that we will find out there are haitians now that literally cannot be accessed because the changes that they were made when you force them to make that information available? >> the one is to provide for the national security is the united states they should be fired and prosecuted for having done so well will allow us to save american lives. to of the confidence or the money or the time that we need to have access to this
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information especially in the circumstances we need the cooperation of these companies because at the end of the day the number one obligation is the like a threat we have never faced. mentioned about the technology's you talk about encryption at the communications security that have improved and they have learned from failures of the past. we need to stay ahead of that that will not prevent every attack sadly the matter how good we get the threat is so multifaceted we cannot prevent every single one but i do believe of the current program has left us unnecessarily vulnerable for the follow-up attacks.
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>> host: the president said after 11 state governors say they will not accept migrants and their own states. >> it is a tough issue going to the core but the flip side will have to provide for our own national security my problem with the migrants i am convinced we can't begin to to adequately to a background check on to a thousand people it is maliki to pick up the phone to the syrian government is not the documents in terms of what they are saying. it is it easy to conduct a background check from that part of the world.
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if you let ted thousand in 9,999 innocent one is a well trained fighter you have a huge problem. that is the problem with this program is not that our hard as a break but what if one is wrong? the consequences are extraordinary the better approach is to have ancient communities to be driven from their ancestral homeland bin to drive hundreds of thousands of people permanently away to go back millennia. >> the immigration to of
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partisanship with those illegal syrians here in united states is to get ben attacked by senator cruz in particular it with amnesty in the past. where are you now and how you respond to that charge? >> running in nomination for the presidency for those who are here legally donald trump wants them to leave before that then to bring them back everybody supports legalizing through some criteria to change the
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position we have a right. >> host: extending that these the program? finicky wanted 9% increase to bring people out just not grant citizenship if he changed his position he should be asked to clarify in 2013 this country needs to do with it to the hopes that the house would take it up further to offer a choice of reform because the trip this the democrats have the majority of the house and did absolutely nothing on immigration. what i learned in the
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american people had zero trust in the federal government to enforce the law. need to fix what we have been deal with the people that are here but not unless they are assured it will not happen again. just to say we will enforce it they wanted done. that was not much dash that was an extraordinary revelation they will see it working before they give you the support. the only way to move forward is to approve the that illegal immigration is under control. it has been substantially lowered and we know what it takes to do that. to those that are here
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illegally because they overstayed also the second step needs to be modernizing the legal immigration system to be merit based so the primary criteria is what they can contribute economically not if they have a relative then i think the american people are reasonable what you do with someone who was here 10 years but has not violated the law? come forward if you cannot pass the background check you have to leave otherwise when english pay taxes pay a fine and get a work permit that is all you get after 10 years than i inversely open to allow people to apply for a green card. others say leave them at a work permit i don't think
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that should stop them to move forward but it is better then we have now and i'm open to let them apply for the green card the you cannot do this all at once it has been tried here four times over the last decade met with failure there is no comprehensive approach that has a chance of passage in any time in the near future. >> host: the term that was striking last week that when governor bush and governor john kasich said this is not the american way. they have been here for many years we will not send them away or pull parents away from their children. they were very passionate about the humanitarian consequences dealing with
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enforcement. >> you have no right to the degree to any country yes i understand the human aspect that is that makes it difficult some have very compelling stories others have taken a vintage of the system. i see it all. it isn't something i have read in the book i have lived it. my family is immigrants my wife's family every neighbor is a degree or first generation american i know every aspect personally. if we deal with people in this country illegally because they appeal to our compassion and common sense but there is the right to legally emigrate we do this because it is in the best interest of america. i don't dig you can deport
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them for a variety of reasons and it undermines the ability and encourage people to come legally in the future if we can modernize the legal immigration most are willing to be realistic and responsible for those over a significant period of time. >> they are offering tax reform as to compare with romney in 2012 with revenue neutral with a tax plan even with dynamic stowe -- scoring increase the deficit.n with dynamic stowe -- scoring increase the
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deficit. you don't cut the top rates of personal taxes much to have a massive expansion and i asked about this last week with the $170 billion for that tax credit but once you expend them they become very hard so they are a permanent fixture hard to reduce it is another big in fatima program you are creating. >> tax policy isn't an entitlement because that to be reformed and change as we do now. i would argue first don't just look at the top rate because we take them of all companies that pay on personal rates that could be 39.5% see corporations and pastors at a flat rate of
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25% in immediate control of expenses the does away with the need for all the loopholes move to a territorial system ready only major industrial country that taxes on a worldwide system. to a trillion dollars of taxes are oversees the gdp of russia we will not get all the back but a significant portion if we move to a territorial system of taxation. talk about tax credits then i want to talk about the debt that tax credit i proposed is for work begins you can get the tax credit if you don't work you have to pay payroll tax to qualify. it is a pro work tax is also a unique 21st century
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reality it is expensive to raise a family. there are significant costs associated with raising children for working families so they can keep their own money to save for college or pay for child care at least 30 of the 50 states is no more expensive in college. i am raising four kids now you give them shoes in january now you have to pay again in march they are real expenses. they tried to reflect the tax code of the reality of 21st century life. we need to understand the debts is not just sheer dollars if italy had a $5 trillion debt it is a catastrophe if we had a $5 trillion debt we would not even talk about it because we have an
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$18 trillion economy but to bring that down to a sustainable level there will always be some level but it has to be manageable. this is the business side along with regulatory reform. there is a lot of people on medicare and social security my mother is one of them. she is 85. we still have time to save these programs with a long-term spending trend. >> we made those public officials.
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>> one way or another or it will be changed in one not grow as fast as i have been financially successful the benefits could take the medicare money they begin to bring stability long-term fresno is to workers for every retiree u.s. to the entitlement reform or you'll never bring the debt under control. it is the unavoidable outcome. >> host: i a couple more questions spinner all candidates are critical of the federal reserve and
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janet yellen can i ask you don't write if your president we do have a chance to renominate? the neck i would not everything on the news is what will the fed do? hopefully you'll have a debate there is no substitute for tax policy to create an environment conducive to economic growth. >> you have somebody in mind ? >> my problem is this notion of the fed is overactive i think we have done harm to america. >> access to easy money with
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zero interest with the stock market results in in many ways that is why i am a strong believer of fed policy for this instinctive we will get into the room but it isn't based on any sort that is the constant speculation with that uncertainty that'd jack's into the economy it allows us to smooth out the ebbs and flows of the economic
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cycles and has the confidence to invest in the future. >> in one of the biggest trade deals in this region and a very long time. to publish the details say couple of weeks ago he had not read it yet i'm sure you get a chance but this is a hugely important issue every republican president has opening measures. >> i support free trade but this specific one we literally just got it one week ago with a 90 day
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review period. it is this something i cannot be supportive of because this trade deal is important for a number of reasons because commerce is occurring in this part of the world the impact could be catastrophic and plays perfectly into the hands of the narrative that united states is the power in retreat that will complete the of the era of global growth of prosperity it is a country where a real low
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tariff country to develop economies like japan to be a part of the business climate it has to be fair estimate but in general to be an influence. >>. >> you said you are for trade. >> that is even before it was announced catering to labor constituents that are far to the left. i support that fast-track authority so we can conclude this negotiation and then before i can become a champion of this deal but we need a free trade deal from
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the geopolitical perspective >> i want to support it has to be a good deal. >> there is a microphone. you have a few minutes. >> so much easier to answer when they are not 90 seconds. >> i apologize first of all, president obama says to be part of the european union it is a big issue for many of us.
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to decide your losses within two be more open to be a better ally for the country. >> ended his right to make the proper interest in held accountable by the electorate in with those presidential candidates anymore than the u.k. to agree with nasa. and we have a right to make that end they will be the
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best friend in the world. ultimately that is to make bad decisions about what is right in the future. >> that will not change the nature of our relationship. >> companies represent millions of the employees and their lives. >> another great friend in the world looking at the balkanization of syria what do you think about that? >> if think the of border but if you look at it you have an enclave in your damascus a massive
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population and kurds of north in syria and iraq with a shia majority around baghdad christian communities driven with full or prison tune substantial portion to return to their ancestral homeland and the artificial ones that were drawn without any thought process to all of this. it -- ideally the with those nations date elements but it is increasingly difficult to envision how that happens in the future. it is touched upon the comments of today to work with those who need -- sunni but that drives a wedge with the shiite groups that came from tehran. site think it has been
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vulcanized for a period of time. that was before the invasion of iraq so that is why i alluded to that old think you'll see entered into canada. the national security is a to make sure that the nation states reform. we will love to see that the our national security interest is to ensure in the process there is not vacuum is created for radical jihadist groups with the external ambitions to organize and that is what is happening hellhole instability -- though whole instability has been created to be a safe haven. they cannot conduct these external attacks they needed safe havens in afghanistan
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and then to conduct the attacks and a national security interest to prevent them of those that govern the territory and then to be extremely difficult. >>. >> i am from wisconsin to read what portables joliet? [laughter] >> over the last stage of the union we have agendas from presidents that we have seen the limits of political capital to accomplish things
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in washington. what would be the two or three the news you can accomplish for sure? >> that is an excellent question for them to take off an office with limited capital we spend it or revisit so prioritize quickly you should know that if you're running for president. the first spends political capital on dodd/frank and obamacare but in my mind their two major threats so giving the nation a clearer for policy to leave our adversaries respectful combined with the national security summit the secretary of defense will share with you how catastrophic the sequester is to the long-term viability of a national
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security in this country the other is everything possible to ensure america fills its potential we're now engaged not just in a rapidly evolving economy but a massive restructuring and changing faster than ever and is global in requires us to compete better global level that is why we can tackle tax reform to make us more competitive the full utilization of the energy resources and the repeal of the free-market alternative. three build national security and our competitiveness the third with the to modernize higher
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education faster and easier and cheaper with the renewed focus on career training the best jobs require more than a high-school but less than four years alternatives to war competency based learning to allow people to get credit for life experience and work experience slight proposed alternative accrediting models and the alternative to student loans for students investment plans allowing them to pay for their studies and right to know before you go before you take out the state won't schools are required to tell you if somebody graduates from that school with that degree. this is awfully well we will confront in the next presidencies to back the senate has a very busy schedule thank
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>> welcome to the press club i am one of the business editors here at npr also of the board of governors. we have elizabeth warren here but first there would reduce the head table please hold the applause until i had introduced to prevent a. the tier of the speaker's committee and also betsy who helped organize this even to. also our c-span and public radio audience.
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#npc newsmaker. now our speaker america called most popular populist you will not see her name on the presidential primary in to hold them for both parties that's accountable that wall street accountability college affordability id in cannes and equality and women's equality but if hillary clinton moves closer to solidify support can senator warren still serves as the power broker to help the public policy debate? should begin serving her first term and i should begin serving her first term and is a democrat and is widely recognized as the architect of the
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consumer financial protection bureau i wish it had a simpler name. cfpd - - b but cheering the oversight panel for troubled assets of the beef program or that t.a.r.p. program after the financial crisis she was elected to the senate in 2012 with those passive tax to financial institutions and has written extensively on issues you 82 economic fairness it has published 10 books m3 best sellers. indicate death from oklahoma.
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. . . . despite the high visibility the senator said she is not running for president but while the ready for war and super pack senator warned herself has not made an endorsement herself of the democratic primary. she did raise eyebrows a few months ago when she had a private brunch with president biden when he was weighing his decision to get into the race. after much speculation the
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potential for a biden - warren ticket evaporated when the vice president said he would not be participating. so, it remains to be seen whom the senator will endorse, but for now we are just going to welcome her to the press club where she wants to talk about the international corporate tax and reform. she will take questions from the audience. welcome. >> thank you very much. clapmac it much. [applause]. it is good to be here. i appreciate your list because i wanted to come here to expand that list a little bit. changes in the air and washington. the lobbyists lobbyists are swarming on capitol hill, buzzes everywhere, congress is going to revive the corporate tax code and the time is nearly here. so, the lobbyists have a pretty
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strong elevator pitch, it goes like this. u.s. corporations are paying too much in taxes, the tax corporate rate is 35% which is much higher than the rest of the developed world and it is forcing u.s. corporations to flee abroad. the solution the solution is to/corporate rates across the board. so, that is the elevator pitch. the story of over taxation is everywhere. it is told and retold for lobbyists for giant corporations, told and retold by their friends in congress and promoted by more than one republican candidate for president. i put together a sampling of what the republican candidates have said. ben carson - our government is driving businesses to other countries because our corporate tax rate is the second highest in the world. donald trump-art multinational corporations can't compete because we have the worst corporate tax rate in the industrialized world. marco rubio --dash the u.s.
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imposes a double tax on the corporate earnings of u.s. multinationals, holding back our nations potential to compete around the globe. there is only one problem with the over taxation story, it is not true. there is a problem with corporate tax code but that is not it. so, let it go through the numbers. let's start let's start with the claim that u.s. corporations pay more than therefore counterparts. now, it is true the highest nominal tax rate on paper is 35%. but hardly anybody actually pays that rate. multiple studies have estimated the average effective tax rate for corporations, the tax rate they actually take to the u.s. government after they take advantage of the deductions, exemptions, credits, is only 20%. 20% is right in the middle of corporate taxes paid in the rest
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of the world. right in the middle. so, the tax rate is about average. what about the trendline? are corporate taxes getting more burdensome as lobbyists claim? no. in fact there has been a ten-point decline in effective tax rates for u.s. corporations between 1998 and 2013. but there is a deeper line hidden right at the center of the elevator pitch. the tax code is so tangled up with exceptions, with credits that some of the biggest corporations the effective federal income tax rate is zero. that's right, not 35 percent, not 20 percent, 020%, 0%. for example, over a five-year period boeing, general electric, and verizon paid nothing in net
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federal income tax. that is across a five-year five-year period. these fortune 500 companies reported nearly $80 billion in combined profits and actually got tax rebates from the federal government. now what is the problem with our corporate texaco? it is not it is far too high for giant corporations as lobbyists would say, no, whether we generate taxes is far too low, the trendline here is unmistakable. over over the past 60 years corporations have contributed a smaller and smaller, and smaller share to the cost. in the 1950s is about three out of every $10 in federal revenue. today, corporations contribute just one out of every $10.
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well, of all countries, 75% of them collected higher corporate tax revenues as a shared gdp as we do here in the united states. that that means three quarters of all developed countries require corporations, just a few of the countries that collect a bigger share of corporate tax revenue than the united states. now think about this, fortune 500 companies probably proclaim they are making record-breaking profits and then they hire armies of lawyers to make sure they do not pay taxes on those record breaking profits. i could give you a dozen examples of how different tax dodges work. there is check the box, reverse hybrid mismatches, inversions, earnings, stripping's, but
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before you head to the execs because that you're afraid that is what i will do, i will focus on one, i, i will just highlight one of these. that is attributing corporate income to the subsidiary set up of offshore tax savings. at the end of last year nearly 3/4 of all fortune 500 companies operated subsidiaries in tax havens. based on filings with the fcc, these 358 companies reported at least 7622 tax haven subsidiaries. that is more than 21 tax haven haven subsidiaries for each fortune 500 company. the tax dodgers that shift money
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to these lows tax are an average the tax rates of just 3%. not the 35% of the elevator pitch, a tidy little 3%. the amount of money tucked away in tax havens is truly staggering. together, u.s. corporations have $2.1 trillion in untaxed profits sitting offshore. once again, look at the trend line. in just the past ten years the amount of untaxed, offshore profit has increased nearly fivefold. in other words, one of the hottest investments in america in the past decade hasn't been biotech or big oil, it has been tax lawyers. the money sheltered overseas is
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now about the same as the combined total earnings of all u.s. corporations into a 2013. but here's the trick, that tax bonus is not shared evenly. now the game is rigged and it is rigged for the really big guys. out of the millions of businesses in the u.s., just 50 corporations hold 75% of the $2.1 trillion in untaxed offshore profits. even in that error there is a tax dodger hall of fame, just ten american companies hold more than one third of all of those offshore profits. here's the real kick in the teeth, the average american household pays federal tax rate of 17.6%.
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the average tax rate for the corporation with fewer than 500%. but the biggest american companies are paying far, far less. in many cases nothing at all. they enjoy all of the benefits of being an american company but they leave it to leave it to families and small businesses to pick up the bill. for years now gridlock in washington has worked in favor of the tax dodgers. despite the expose in the media the corporations and their top executives continue to sweep sleep comfortably secure in the knowledge they could block any real tax reforms. but now, there is it change in the wind. why? because the giant tax dodgers themselves are lobbying for change in the tax laws and they are lobbying hard.
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they are even signaling they just might be willing to bring some of that sheltered money back to the united states if we will give them a sweet enough deal to do that. so what is going on? why the sudden chain? a burst of conscious? patriotism? no. as always, it it is about money. while the united states congress may be asleep at the switch others countries are waking up to tax dodgers and they are starting to rewrite their tax law. many of of our global competitors have started cracking down on the infamous levels of tax avoidance by u.s. companies. they know u.s. corporations are shuffling cash through their borders without paying taxes and they want their cut. the u.k. for example is
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developing a new tax to go after profits hidden away by u.s. companies. what is the name of the bill? they are calling it the google tax. the european court of justice is striking down sweetheart deals for u.s. companies and their subsidiaries around europe. your pain has been ramping up tax investigation and climb back tax benefits collected by u.s. corporations. the g20 just released a sweeping new plan for cracking down on cross-border tax gains. there is a move afoot internationally to shut down tax dodgers. even even here in the u.s. the treasury department is entering in tax information exchange agreement with other countries to uncover hidden cash. the treasury is also developing new country by country reporting requirements that will shine a light on the scams used by the
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tax dodger. in fact it is so bad that tax advisers have been setting out to panicky alerts warning that other countries have crumbled to the tax dodger game and as always the days of single-digit corporate tax rates are coming to an end. so these giant corporations have suddenly found religion. they say it is time for tax reform. of course, they, they plan to write the tax reform. their strategy is simple, tell a story about about how u.s. taxes demand tax cuts for the you night states congress and threaten to leave the united states for good if they don't get what they want. i say it is time to call their bluff. why? first, because i know tax rate for giant american corporations are far lower than the lobbyist claim. second. second, i know the tax deals available abroad are disappearing fast. third, and most of all i know america is a great place to do
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business and that is worth a lot to these multinational corporations. we have the world's best work force, smart, skilled, hard-working. we have the world's most attractive consumers, hundreds of millions most attractive consumers, hundreds of millions of people who are ready to buy. we have the world's most reliable and transparent legal system. we have the deepest and most liquid capital markets. we markets. we have copyright and patent laws that will ward innovation. one evidence for why this is a good and how much people believe this is a good place to do business? look where startups are going. more. more than 3% of newly started businesses with physical headquarters in the u.s. chose to incorporate, not in a tax shelter. i set it backwards. fewer than 3% chose to incorporate in a tax shelter. tax shelters won't build the next new industry either.
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america is a great place to do business and our companies know it. so if we think about fixing our broking tax code we should bet on america and we should focus on actual problems not the fake ones pursued by the tax dodgers, by the lobbyist, and by the presidential candidates who are hoping to attract big corporate contributions. it is time to reform the tax code but let's do it right. how about three principles here. first, tax reform must substantially increase this share of long-term revenues paid by big corporations. not just over the next five or ten years but permanently. our tax system has already been so corrupted by tax dodgers that a revenue neutral rewrite of our corporate tax laws leaves this country with too little money to operate basic services. if america is going to build the
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21st century infrastructure, operate 21st-century schools and invest in 21st century research, then giant corporations must pay a fair share of the costs. second, tax reform must level the playing bill between small businesses and big businesses. in cambridge doesn't stash profits in luxembourg. in the bakery and all arlington doesn't put money in the cayman islands. auto electric cannot hire an army of lawyers to set up a reverse hybrid mismatch to lower their taxes. these loopholes and gimmicks are available only to giant corporations. when small businesses have to pick up a disproportionate share of the taxes paid will be that much harder for them to compete. third, tax reform should promote
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investment and jobs here in the united states. the loopholes that litter our tax code and allow tax dodgers to hide cash overseas also actively encourage multi- national to outsource jobs and invest money abroad. right now, u.s. companies can take a lower rate by investing overseas instead of the u.s. for companies can strip out profits. these three principles, raise more long-term revenue, level the playing field for small businesses and invest in jobs in america. most americans probably agree with me, it is common sense. but congress doesn't congress doesn't talk to most americans.
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congress talks to ceos and their armies of lawyers and lobbyists who are pushing. i want you to consider three tax proposals, first repatriation. this is a giant wet kiss for the tax dodgers who have already lost 2,100,000 dollars overseas. it says overseas. it says bring home the money but only pay half of what you all. or, with negotiations going on in capitol hill right now if that kiss is not wet enough, some are suggesting the repayment rate should be even less than half may be around%. think about what that means. all of the businesses that have been paying their taxes in full keep on paying in full but the tax dodgers will get a special rate.
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but apple with a tax break of $27 billion. microsoft would save $18 billion. citigroup would save $7 billion. and what's the total price tag for this is juicy smooch? estimates are in the range of 300 to $400 billion paid by u.s. taxpayers. right at the moment when other countries are starting to get tough in the attached dodgers one of their money back to the united states, washington top reform idea is to give the tax dodgers a big tax break. now the second ideas even worse. the ideas tax overseas income but to do it at a rate that is
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lower than u.s. income. so for example, money earned in the u.s. would have a top tax rate of 35% while the top rate for money held abroad would be 19% or maybe even less. it is like holding up a giant sign to all corporation that says, higher taxes if you invest in the u.s., lower taxes if you invest abroad. the result would be for every small business in every family in america would be subsidizing foreign investments of multinational corporations which would be a great deal for those multinational corporations and for our foreign competitors, but a terrible deal for us. the third idea is called an innovation box. i think about it as the kiss for lazy tax dollars to her's. to get this loophole you don't have to move money around or corporate subsidiaries, no.
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instead a corporation can just text the innovation box on its tax return and magically pay lower taxes on the earnings it claims came from innovation. so big pharmaceutical companies and giant tech companies a provision like this just make pain a chunk of taxes optional. now look, i strongly support a robust innovation policy, like, like investing in nsf or nih. i believe in basic research and encouraging companies to invest in research. but the innovation box does not do a single thing to encourage new innovations. lobbyists and lawyers are really excited about the prospect of tax reform. tax nerds are a buzz, but when i look at the details, i see the same rigged game. a game where congress hands out billions in benefits to
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well-connected corporations while people who could really use a break, the millions of middle-class families and small businesses that have been squeeze for decades are just left holding the bag. that is what this tax battle is really about. who does this country work for? is it just for the rich and powerful? those those who can hire armies of lobbyists and lawyers. can we make this country work for millions of hard-working people? this is not a fair fight. the corporate giants are lined up to make sure the tax changes all tilt their way. america's working working families don't have a zillion dollar pr team to counter the false claim that corporate taxes too high. small businesses do not have a zillion dollar lobbying organization to
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fight back against tax giveaways for giant corporations. mostly, what they have is you. the people in this room. the people who report on what is going on in washington. the people who will hear the elevator pitch over, and over. and they will decide whether to repeat it or push back. as tax reform moves forward i hope each and everyone of you will be paying very close attention. thank you. [applause]. >> thank you, i have some questions that many people
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participate in the audience here. you have been talking about corporate taxes but there is a question here about individual taxes as well. a lot of americans sympathize with the republican argument that the tax code is too complicated, is it too complicated and can it be simplified in a way that a way that is fair, would you simplify? >> yes it is to complicated. it is hard. i always made it a point of pride to fill out my own taxes. it has lots of moving parts to it. it is complicated. what worries me the most is what is hidden in the complication. it's that the system overall is tilted, it's not like there is a bunch of random stuff in here and sometimes it will help poor people and sometimes it will help middle-class wagers, sometimes it will help this group or that group, no. it is that the tax code has been reshaped over time and particularly over the last decade. the reshaping has expanded the number of twists and turns that permit billion-dollar multinational corporation to say
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woo hoo, this is great. invest in tax lawyers because we will not have to pay money if we can exploit enough of these loopholes. this is available to anybody else. i don't think the answers to try to figure out how to get middle-class americans to shelter their money and it became an islands. i think the answer is we have to get a system that is level and that means giant corporations should not be getting a competitive advantage in this economy simply because they can exploit tax loopholes that are not available to anybody else. for me that is the hardest. >> some candidates have also suggested a lemonade the irs altogether. just not having an irs. is that a practical idea? is there any formulas that that that make sense? >> no.
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[laughter] >> okay thank you. what about the republicans who want to impeach the irs commissioner, is there any validity to their charges against him or how do you feel about that issue question mark. >> you know, look they can make whatever claim they want to make and try to do whatever they want to do, it's politics. what i want to talk but is really what's in the tax code. i'm serious about this. this issue is upon us. the tax lobbyists are swarming capitol hill. everyone is starting to talk, tax rewrite, tax rewrites, tax rewrite. we need tax rewrite that has a voice at the table for middle-class family. a voice at the table for small as this is, voice at the table for those who really are left to compete in a tough economy. right now the united states taxpayers are subsidizing some of the largest and most
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profitable corporations in the entire world. that is where the true scandalous. that is where we need to flipping on all of the lights and exposing it. >> obviously one of your main concern has been incoming equality. this morning you did another press conference about women and equality wages and all that, is the best way to get to income equality through this tax coders that really more of an issue through things like minimum wage, which way to get at income inequality more efficiently question mark. >> so if you let me, i will do a little bit longer answer to this. this is why the whole you list, all of these pieces are woven together. let me start this way. america was a booming economy until we had the 1930s, in the 1930s the real genius of the
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moment that came out of the great depression was saying we can make this better going for. we can put regulations in place with banks, we can separate high risk gambling from boring banking that was glass beagle. we can do progressive taxation and invest in building a middle class. that is exactly what we did. we did. we invested in education, g.i. bills, we invested in infrastructure, interstate highway system, power grid that was upgraded, we invested in basic research, medical research, scientific research, engineering research with the idea that if we made those investments we would create the right environment.
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we whip all the field so that businesses could grow here at home. they could could create great new jobs here in america. people who worked hard and play by the rules to get an education and have real opportunity and for half a century it worked. from the 1930s until the 1980 much happen across that. is gdp kept going up and so did the income in the united states. the 90% of america everybody at the top 10%, okay top 10% moved a little faster but the point is we built america's middle class. then, just take in 1980 as a
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point of inflection obviously the years over lap a bit, but picking 19 it is a point of inflection a new idea take hold. the new idea that comes his trickle-down economics. trickle-down economics is two parts, one is directly, fire the cops, not the cops on main street cops street caps on wall street. second, cut taxes for those at the top. how can you do that? the only way you can afford to do that is that you cut all of those other investments that helped us build the middle class. that is exactly what happened. we could go through the numbers bulimic cut to the bottom line, 1980 until 2012 the latest year for which we have data, how is the 90% done? the group that is not in the top 10%? remember how they got 70% of all income growth from 1935 to five to 1980, will from 1980 until 2012 they got 0% of income growth in america. none.
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nothing. 100% of income growth in this country went to the top 10% in america. is it related related to taxes? you bet it is related to taxes. it is related to what we didn't spent in investing in education what we did not invest in infrastructure, what we didn't invest in jobs here in america,, what we did not invest in research, it is related to firing the cops on wall street and sane have added, build an entire industry out of cheating people on mortgages, credit cards. that is the heart of what is going on. now those people have so many lobbyists in washington, so many lawyers crawling across capitol hill that we are ready to rewrite the tax code in their various, you bet, they want to rewrite the tax code to pick up even more benefits for themselves. that is why say the fundamental question in america today is who
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does this government work for? doesn't just work for those who can hire an army of lobbyist or lawyers or are we going to make this country work for the rest of america? >> the plans that you talked about of changing the corporate tax code would moderate democrats in the congress support you? how much support is there for this idea of re-shaping the tax code? >> well, we'll find out. i mean, look part of his starts and have always pushed back on the elevator speech. the elevator speeches everywhere, you heard that elevator speeches everywhere, you heard that republican candidates, does anybody but impact check them? on these assertions about how much american corporations are paying in taxes? we have to start by having the conversation and then why does anybody who claims to want to rebuild america milk
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middle-class. anybody who claims to be there for small businesses even midsize businesses, anybody, anybody who claims to care about jobs in america should want to sign up hook, line, and, and sinker for these tax proposals. >> i just want to switch to other topics people of talked out. the minimum wage he touched on briefly. their different proposals out there for $15 or $12, do support either the 12 or 15 and what a steep hike have any impact on hurting job creation in low-income states? are there some problems with having some federal minimum wage that's a hard question mark. >> look, i want to keep see the minimum wage go up and i will put anything that will raise minimum wage i think it's the right direction to go. i am a data nerd.
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the data just don't support the claim that when minimum wage goes up that employment goes down. look at study after study, the gold standard of studies, when the minimum wages put in place across the metropolitan area and because half of the city is in one state and happens in another or because half the cities in the county and half is outside the county you can actually do a comparison what happens before and after. you just do not see a strong measurable impact as a consequence of raising minimum wage. there are a few reasons for this. one, it turns out higher minimum wage means lower turnover. people are more stable in their jobs, employers don't have to spend as much training people and so on.
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part of it is people who work at minimum wage than all that money. they spend it locally. so it is a real shot in the arm for a lot of local economies for people to have more money. i i hear from small business owners around massachusetts who say they are doing the right thing, they are going up there and tried to get their work as a living wage. they just like everyone they are competing against to have to do the same. that is what i think raising the minimum wage is all about. it's about trying to weather the plane feel. i know you want the lightning round but let me say something real quick about the minimum wage. this one is really personal to me. i'll do a very short version of this, my family had some really tough times. when i was 12 my dad was out of work for long time and i had a stay-at-home mom. we lost our family car, we were right on the edge of losing our
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house. my mother put on her best stress and lipstick, put on her high heels and she walked to the seals sears roebuck and got a minimum wage job. that minimum ways job saved our house and it saved our family. but i grew up in america where minimum wage job would keep a family of three afloat. today, a minimum wage job in america will not even keep a mama and a baby out of poverty. this is about economics but this is also a fundamentally moral question. no one in america should work full-time and still live in poverty. we can do better than that as a country. [applause]. >> there is another issue that you have been dealing with today
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that is the transpacific partnership. the information that has been made public all 6000 pages, can you tell us more about your thoughts on why you oppose it and give us an update on where you see this issue moving forward. congress would have to approve it, will it move in 2016 to the floor of the senate and the house? what is this likely to happen question mark. >> and lots of questions in there, if i don't do it all you can elbow me on it i will try to remember. let me start on the trade deal with the process of getting where we are today. >> as negotiations took place there were clear advisors, people here in the united states met with them talked with them, help shade the trade deal and
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85% of them were either corporate ceos or lobbyists. that builds a tilt into the entire process. now we've seen the product and the tilt is right in the product. let me give you one example, the administration talks a lot about the great promises in the trade deal unemployment and competition for workers around the world, on human rights. and there are some good promises. but promises without enforcement are not worth the paper they are printed on. so what is the enforcement? the answer answer is, it is the same enforcement of every trade deal that precedes it that has not worked. so, i want to be clear on this, going back years and years now democratic administrations and republican administrations have
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not enforced the labor provisions, the environmental provisions, an earlier trade agreement so the promises can get fancier but if there's no enforcement there's nothing there. on the other side, what about the giant corporations? the ones who want to trade all around the world and what local countries to follow rules that make it profitable for the corporations. if they don't like how something has gone and what they believe are the promises they are entitled to, what they have to do? they just just have to go to a private arbitration board. private. that private arbitration board will then issue a ruling and there is no appeal, there is no core process that comes out of that. the country that loses in that
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deal has to write a giant check and that's it. now, there are are a lot of countries that have already ended up on the short end of the stick in that process. for some of them writing a giant check is just not possible. so what is the alternative? they back down and simply change local law. that is the kind of power this trade agreed meant magnifies for the giant multinational corporations. that is the tilt and trade policy. it does not work for american workers, it doesn't work for the american people.
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>> just to move onto another topic that has been huge this week is the republican suggestions we stop resettlement of any syrian refugees to the united states. can you comment on the situation was serious. >> i can't. actually on the refugee in particular i did a i did a speech on the floor in the senate yesterday that is available if anyone wants to look at it. there is the longer answer around this. let me just say on the shorter answer, it is our responsibility to protect our country. it it is our responsibility to protect our people. we do not do that by turning our backs on refugees who are fleeing the butchers of isis. right now to make it as a refugee in the united states from syria requires a screening process that lasts from 18-24 months. we can always look at it and see if there's something else we should add to it but we are screaming syrian refugees.
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screening them very carefully. if we are concerned, concerned, and we should be concerned about terrorist threats, the much more worrisome problem is across europe. i recently traveled to greece and visited refugee centers. greece is so overwhelmed at this moment by refugees. last month, 100,000 people came through turkey into greece and all they can do is a fingerprint them, write down their names, and pass them into the rest of europe. think about that means, there is no effective process on the front-end. people are pressed into europe and end up with european passports which permit them to travel throughout europe and to travel to the united states. we need to focus our security concerns more carefully on where
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threats actually exist. if if we want to make a real difference in threats to europe and the united states that we need to help the great government and europeans that need to be helping the great government. they need the resources to deal with the refugees who, sure and they need the expertise to do more screening of the refugees that arrive in greece. we have to get the focus in the right place here. and i should say one more thing, it really was a long speech yesterday but i do have to say one more thing. this is not who we are. we don't turn our backs on people fleeing from terrorists. we aren't nation of immigrants and refugees, we were founded by people who are seeking to escape religious persecution, who are
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seeking religious freedom. the idea that we would turn back children and babies to the murders of isis because somebody doesn't like their religion, that is fundamentally un-american. that is not who we have ever been in the past and that is not who we will be in the future. [applause]. >> i want to remind the c-span audience and that if you hear applause, many of the people in the audience are not journalists so journalists do not applaud. i want to quickly turn to the topic of politics. it seems when you listen to the democratic and republican it debate the topics are not the same. it is him is like their two parallel conversations going on but there are so little ground in the middle that we
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have a new house speaker who is still one year left in the obama presidency, is there time, is there space, is there any opportunity for finding some sort of middle ground for having a productive year in 2016? can 16? can anything get done in washington? >> look, i hope so. no, i do. there are places we are working. right now we are working on an education bill to replace no child behind. so going over the details it has some really good features in it that both republicans and democrats have agreed to and have hammered out. we talk about medical innovation. this is an area where we should all be able to come together. who doesn't want more funding for the national institutes of
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health? i just want to add to the side a little commercial here, last year in america collectively we spent $225 billion taking care of people with alzheimer's. what could we offer them? we couldn't offer them any help. we cannot delay the onset by a single day, we couldn't reduce the impact of it by 1 inch. so what should we be doing as a country? we we should be investing in brain science. in alzheimer's research. you know how much we spent my string in the nih? less than two tenths of 1% of that $225 billion. the nih budget over the last dozen years have effectively been cut. by 25%. we do not bill the future by
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turning away from medical problems that are bearing down on us. we build a future by investing in medical innovation and investing in that research. so there is a place that i am hopeful that we can get there with the democrats and republicans together. i have a bill out there, i will always put in a plug for my bill, right. that would add another 5,000,000,000 dollars to funding nih. there are some other ways we may do that. i will take anything as lane speaking get more money into nih. so, i am hopeful, i am hopeful there might be places we could do this. that should be why we are here. we should should be here to try to build a strongercountry and we should be able to agree on that. >> just to push a little deeper
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into the political questions. hillary clinton wall street contributions have become an issue in her campaign, are you concerned with her ties to wall street question mark. >> i am concerned about everybody's ties to wall street. look around washington, i am worried about the influence that wall street has on washington. maybe that is partly because i watched in the aftermath the great crash in 2008 when congress was trying to put together a response, the response -- i assume that when they started this process just like they did back in the 1930s that these giant financial institutions that had been permitted to load up on risks and then had crash the economy and then bailed out by the u.s. taxpayer would at least be humbled enough to stay out of the political process. by that shows you how naïve i was about it. wall street was spending more than $1 million per day for over
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one year. they're doing that to lobby against financial reform. they have not let up, and backed when dodd frank pass one of the lobbyist was caress having said, we do we do not lose it is just half-time. that is the case, they have come back. they are there day after day, after day, they want they want to punch this whole and dodd frank, punch that whole, they want to treat it like they do the tax code. they want to make it work for the biggest financial institutions in the country. so, this is the fight, this is the 1i am deepened. >> looking at how surprisingly well bernie sanders has done, do you look back on and wish that you had gone ahead and run? >> know.
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house transportation bill schuster begins the two-hour meeting. [inaudible] [inaudible] >> will come to order. i see we are joined by mr. defazio, electronically. peter, how are you doing? >> doing well bill, thank you,
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thank you. >> peter had surgery and is unable to be here and unable to fly. we want to make sure he was here. first i would like to make sure i would like to welcome members of the house and the senate. everyone else here today at the meeting, according to long-standing agreement the house and senate alternate cherry the conference and i will begin by recognizing the chairman will be a key partner to nominate the chairman for congress. >> thank you mr. chairman i nominate congressman schuster is the chairman of the conference and without objection that will be the order. >> i second the nomination. >> i thank you i would also like to nominate senator as a vice chair of the conference.
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we'll start with opening statement and i would like to take care of procedural matters. first i asking animus consent that the committee on the ranking member peter defazio be able to participate by electronic means. next i want to give you all sense of the conference schedule going forward. as. as we all know we are operating under extension of the highway trust fund that goes through december 4, this is the last extension and i put in! i'm at. getting. getting everything done by december 4 is going to be a challenge. i want to outline the schedule and we are following this public conference meeting we need to negotiate all areas in the house and senate bills this week, the step will be busy putting together the conference report next week. staff on both sides of the aisle, happy thanksgiving.
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we plan to file the conference report on november thirtieth, it is the first day back after thanksgiving. procedurally this procedurally this barely gives us in the house enough time to pass and get to the present by december fourth. obviously it is going to be a challenge. we will we will need to buckle down and get to work. this is a very ambitious schedule ahead of us. again, i am confident we can get it done. we have a large conference committee, i know everyone wants to have an opportunity to speak. therefore, let me explain the order for recognition today. within agreement of senator and hope he can enforce this on his side of the conference committee, we recognize members for two minutes alternating between the house and the senate and the order you are seated. if a number is not here are present in the name is called they will be recognized when they come in. i know the senate folks are due for a vote here this morning so we'll be going back and forth. >> let me start by such same
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when i became chairman one of the high priorities was passing a multiyear bill to it improve the transportation system. i'm happy to be here today and getting closer to that goal, i believe everyone in this room understands how critical the transportation system is to the economy into the decision. it has a direct impact on lives every single day. >> imac. >> ..
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>> >> we have already made good progress going through our differences of afford to finishing our work to improve america's infrastructure. with that i yield to senator in offered as statements. >> it is an enjoyable experience to come back here
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in many are here now i look over in one of the nice things i remember is i don't recall one time we had any partisan squabbles we got along and made an agreement. to look at that document that nobody pays attention we're supposed to be defending america and that is what we are here for no doubt we can get through with this and where we disagree on a lot of stuff but nothing to do with the infrastructure people are in sharp. -- shock. on june 24 the committee
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unanimously voted in our committee that is very unusual that we share with the democrats and republicans were in the majority but we do on this. but the majority that you had chairman. so looking at the things that we want to do with the need for the streamlining to focus on innovation in most importantly to provide necessary long-term certainty. sought -- cannot do a short-term extension. so let's get something
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important done. thank you, mr. chairman. >> with that a riot recognize the our ranking member electronically. [laughter] >> is that a portrait? >> it's working. thanks for your partnership as the senator noted they pass the bill unanimously as we did also it has been ted years since we did a long term bill to provide much more authority to ruth the state to efficiently with dash sufficiently plan for long-term projects. i am concerned and continue to be and i have expressed to us with 325 of the house
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and the senate at 342 with the scenario could to go on to the next generation and though worse condition in the and it is with 400 million per year there is one way to get their to reduce the terms of the of bill five for four years to get more robust to force people to work and put the policies for word i hope the conference committee will consider that for our also hope they will include building bridges and the house bill to allow for any future revenues dedicated tutus rotation flow through the policies of this bill with no further action required by congress so should a future congress find additional revenue revenue, said that they can be put to work nearly immediately. with the policy issues that are outstanding the staff is
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doing a tremendous job to narrow those differences and i expect with the ambitious schedule that you put forward by intend to be back when removed -- ruth four reducting skipping a i appreciate the opportunity to participate. >>. >> you're doing your second to bill so this is important we get this done on your watch between the two committees. >> mr. chairman of was going to say we have a great record to work across party lines. also working on a last
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highway bill and this is a moment we cannot let it go. we look forward to getting a bad care where it belongs. but we are making great progress in the flesh stopping me to say does this mean it is over? no. we're making great progress. my friends and i are heading this effort which is important because we are together on this issue. but to every member of the conference committee, we are so fortunate to be here right now regardless of party because this is amazing opportunity to help our country which you can take transit to work and
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hurts the economy and families and we are poised to do something great something that hasn't been done in a long time. able to your bill i'd think we can get there. we have to get there. the three reasons why we cannot fail. 51,000 bridges are structurally deficient. i saw one go down in california near the border it completely wrecked the economy there. we have to pick up -- to pass this to fix the road bridges 50 percent of the roads are not in good condition. that is from the people who follow the conditions of roads it is a put out by a government entity. 1.3 million construction workers that is a lot of
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families that are mentioned -- counting lotus. the staff has been working night in and day. normally we wait but just from our side our staff has become all lost relatives as they work together night and day. we have our problems think we worry about the safety title to make sure when we do this bill that only sells something terrific but to reassure a the highways and automobiles are safer. i am excited. i will put the rest of my statement in the record but i will work night and day. i am ready. moment in history that doesn't come along very often that we can actually work together. and makes us so happy.
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rita have to work against each other on this bill and for us we can set had an example. on our side we have senators nelson in senator spittoon and hatch and senator wyden senator brown senator shelby this isn't a one-person show for cry love working with my friend the q so much. >> mr. graves. >> all of us know the importance of the multi-year surface transportation bill. a modern design is critical to what we do with the country and my home state we
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have 35,000 miles of roads with said thousand bridges most of those are in need of repair will need to be rebuilt or completely rewrote replaced we have seen states and local governments forced to operate after one decision that the states cannot make proper investments of infrastructure without the multi-year transportation bill. the reauthorization reform act is bipartisan piece of legislation focusing on those investments. the house bill reauthorize as federal programs over six years to target regulation to expedite its environmental reviews to get 15 percent to maine's state -- to maintain or restore rule bridges. to bring our country back on the path to reshape the national transportation
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infrastructure to apply innovations from the private sector during the future reauthorization bill it ensures that the states have the certainty that they need to plan for long-term transportation projects. this is one of the things the federal government should do and should do well in the final agreement will make that possible a look forward to wrapping up this process as the liggett the multi-year reauthorization bill. thank you mr. chairman. >> i recognize the former member of this committee. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and i appreciate all the great work working with our
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counterparts percolated important point in the process to get a multi your highway bill something we have desired to get done for a long time and what our states needs for the benefits it provides to the economy. i appreciate the good work of the staff if you're like family than maybe we're like the inlaws. [laughter] but we have a lot of good work into this already but what senator nelson and i have jurisdiction with safety provisions a number of things to be included as part of the bill allowed to mention briefly a few of those there are important passenger rail reforms that were passed separately by the house of representatives
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as part of their investment act and decide from the numerous safety improvements the record recall we have had a real opportunity with safety technologies with the blind spot detection the departure warning in injuries. i am pleased with where we are. but a great credit to you mr. chairman and the various committees in the house and the senate to get where they are today in the process to provide the uncertainty for the transportation improvements and all the benefits that come with that. thank you. >> you're recognized for
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your statement. >> it is a pleasure to work with you and the ranking members on what truly has been a bipartisan effort where we have stuck together taking pains we would prefer not to have been moving forward with a bipartisan bill that may be a model before the house and senate and i would like my colleagues thank you for moving so prickly in july with a long-term authorization bill. this is the first long-term authorization bill in 10 years. despite the funding i think we will find every commuter stuck in traffic and every business that has to use
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these roads and bridges to get goods and services to our country there is a bill and we're determined to make sure there will be a bill. mr. chairman. this is a six year bill without secure funding and would take $400 billion over six years just to maintain the status quo to do nothing new. one thing we should consider is making it five years with the funding truly able to maintain at least the status quo. there are so many good things in this bill but i don't want to detail the ones from my own district except for two of them. one is the $20 million for
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the state's to do what we have not done to find a substitute to replace the obsolete highway trust fund. we did nothing we have allowed the states to show us the way. and finally i would like to say, this ought to be the last time particularly if we have a joint hearing of the house and senate, having the private sector come with new ideas it may well be the last time we will do what we have done the first time we have never funded highway trust bill using gimmicks as to dates change the filing to dates of information returns with a corporation date for the enterprise.
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i hope the house and senate will lead together so we can develop a new fund for the highway transportation to ensure every six years we renewed infrastructure. >> senator nelson. >> other they of the funding differences, some were significant differences between the house and thus a deposition there some of the safety concerns and we have some hard compromises but together on safety that is in the senate bill. for example, with numerous
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exemptions from trucks' safety laws from liability protections as well as the speed of safety rule making. that is the difference. another difference is of liability cap in the senate to increase from the current $200 million per incident up through $295 million. if you think of the incident a few months ago, the amount of damage that has been caused will far exceed 200 million. we started out to get that at 500 billion. we compromise down to vendor 95 million.
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we need strong vehicle safety measures. here is one that defies is - - defines under standing you would want to know if you have a recall vehicle we have millions just with the airbags is over 20 million that you would allow a rental car to read to a recall the vehicle and in the house bill that is applied to dealers said you could rent a recall vehicle. we don't have that in the senate bill. then on any of the defects that nhtsa presently at 35 million we wanted to take it up significantly and
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compromised at three times instead of 500 so it is compromised at $105 million. bin and penalties for the safety defect with the general motors ignition system that company, a $35 million. that doesn't seem to be reasonable. there is one other provision that provides in-house will sweep the liability protections for all suppliers are with regard to the engaged dc-8 guidelines. we think there should be determined by lot not congress through nhtsa. i certainly support the
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efforts of the top 4s you try to bring us together on the highway bill. >> you are now recognized as >> to make this an open bipartisan process we're making sure those pierides we thought were important to stay in the bill. the house bill as far as safety improved by rail we go beyond the final rule of the dot flammable liquids the thermal begin and require all legacy lockhart cars to be phased out directory -- retrofitted with the provision those that are remaining on rails and require the top of
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hitting protections to minimize adverse impact if they derail. also the oil spill response plan and finally to provide states and responders with information to approve within their states. and also want to commend the senate with reforms to amtrak fellow strengthen the investments in the bill includes the reciprocity act that eliminates environmental reviews with years of project planning that will help to improve many bridges that are in need of repair like the modesto's seventh straight
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- - street bridge. if we have bridge's two years later cannot even allow school buses to bear the load that is rated number two out of 100. finally a bipartisan amendment i offered on the floor federal motor carriers must be included in the final package with one federal standard. you have met our friend that is around the capital frequently i have never received so many letters from constituents and republicans and family members from around the country that would like a simple ability to bring their pet on the train is seems ridiculous economic
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small dog on the airplane but on trade she is forbidden for garneau pet owners are looking for to having their pets on the train. >> is that the movie? [laughter] senator wide and -- widened. >> to say hello to my friend end colleague. my bottom-line you cannot have a big lead economic growth with little league infrastructure. nearly three dozen short-term funding extensions have created a one year long cloud of uncertainty high end confusion. and has been traumatic for states and communities that want to plan ahead.
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this bill stops the roller-coaster a short-term extension saddam least. i will pictor some important points. all of my state to understand how much we appreciate his good work with the provision to bring new projects tuesday neck areas with transportation funding. another in portland oregon they are to well-traveled routes they will be an important investment for the future. i will tell you what should be the priorities for all of us. number one is robust funding for as many years as possible. my preference is five years
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to give governors and community leaders the certainty and predictability to plan. and hope this committee will agree to strike the provision to use private debt collectors it is a proven track record of failure indicating and with the irs uses private deck collectors in the past the program wound up losing more money than abroad and. what we saw was a huge increase of consumer complaints to the ftc. and warm as point i think it will be a serious mistake for this conference not to make a strong effort to get some of the billions of private sector dollars off the sidelines into the ever
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structure there is a bipartisan proposal to do this called the move america act it can spur hundreds of dollars in investments of roads and highways and bridges according to the joint committee on taxation's in-house, a billion dollar taxpayer investment generates $226 billion worth of transportation investment. here is where we are. the cost materials is lower than we have seen. we have so many workers out of work. this is the opportunity i really am looking forward to move the legislation portrait -- for word.
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>> thinks of my colleague as well and is then no relative to all the relatives but they're not in this bill because we already took care of that. . . you do not change formulas that move hundreds of millions of dollars around on the basis. that is not the way you do
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things because if you do that, what you do is simply get in a feeding frenzy. we are all doing the same thing, we're trying to find more money for community, i get that. we are not doing that because we are not putting the spell properly. we turn on each other. that is all well and good but what happens is you get turned on. if you take one formula and deal with that that may sound good until you realize in the fda law there are 12 different formulas. that doesn't include the fhw a or the the fra, all of whom have dozens of formulas, each one of which can be called into question. the way to change formulas is to have a discussion about it before we get to the floor, run numbers, see how it works, combine them, and get combine them, and get rid of some, whatever we want to do. it is not to do it ten minute limit on the floor otherwise i guarantee you there, and other day when the people try to attack different formularies that they benefit from.
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i just don't think that is the way to do business. i don't think we'll end up doing that. nonetheless, it needed to be said and i think you for the time. i yelled back. >> thank you. i recognize senator brown. >> thank you mr. chairman. transportation bill is pretty much forever been bipartisan affairs. i'm sure this conference led by the senators and congressmen will continue that fine tradition. the dismal state of our nation's outdated roads, bridges, and railways costs my state and other state the valuable time and money and energy. from the 1940s into the 1980s into the 1980s we lead the world in infrastructure building things the world had never seen before. as we all know the quality of u.s. infrastructure ranks 16th in the world. it it is critical this conference committee focuses on producing a bill that increases funding above current levels and help states and
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cities invest in their infrastructure in a meaningful way. the banking committee develops the transportation portion of this bill in the senate through bipartisan negotiation we have worked to improve the title. since the manse transit account was created in 1983 under president reagan president tran but it has received 20% of new revenue provided. the senate bill continues this tradition and ensures the mass transit account receives a fair share of revenues. the senate and house bill increase the amount of american made steel and other components that will go to buses and subway cars, subway taxpayer dollars should be spent supporting american workers and american businesses. i'm pleased both houses included identical language about that banks. it supported 350 businesses in my home state, and about two
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thirds of which are small businesses. it is five months overdue and will help insurance ohio exporters manufacturers, workers are not facing a plainfield tilted in favor of foreign competitors. finally, i offer my support to the creation of a competitive grant program for regional and nationally significant projects. with my friend and senior senator from oklahoma pointed out several times on the senate debate, on the floor projects like the bridge connecting cincinnati and northern kentucky, they carrying equivalent of 4% of our gdp across that bridge every day, every week, every year. the federal government must play a role in its improvement is so much more. thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you senator brown. with that, recognize mr. thompson for opening statements. >> chairman schuster, thank you so much. i appreciate your leadership in this. i i want to thank all the members of the staff that have move this critical bill to this
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point. i look for to working with you as we complete this process in a timely manner. haven't having spent decades as a firefighter and emergency medical technician i have a witness first hands how lives have been at risk or protected by the conditions of highways. our highway investment sure it not only the safe and efficient transportation of america's families, but also america's economy. that is why i am so honored to be a part of this process. i also appreciate the inclusion of the reauthorization of the export, import bank within this. it is an important tool in terms of making manufacturing here and selling to other countries our products, the fruits fruits of the labor of american workers.
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so, with that i just want to say thank you again, i am honored to be on this conference committee. i'll back. i'll back. >> thank you mr. thompson. we recognize senator. >> thank you mr. chairman. i think both of you and i think those of you have been working long and hard to get where we are today, which is consideration of a long-term transportation bill. i think something that many of us have been looking for, for a long time. i would like to highlight very quickly a couple of the programs that are significant to my state of alaska, very remote, very rural. chairman and hoff had mentioned that our obligation here is to focus on roads and bridges and i certainly don't dispute that. i also remind colleagues that in certain parts of the country our roads are on the water. marine highway system through fairies that is a priority. we ought not forget them as
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well. making sure we have a program of very center facilities must adequately account first states like alaska, or coastal states that do rely on our fairies as marine highways. they carry people and marine necessities from a place to another. they they are there lifelines. where they have no roads or airports. when 80% of your community are not attached by your road, we have to figure out how to our transportation corridors work for us. so note that that is a priority. second, the tribal transportation program must provide base funding to our tribes particularly are smaller, more rural tribes. we have a minimal spending stream, tribes in many states cannot provide access to services that it intends. i want to acknowledge my colic here in the house, congress men young who secured a
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formal change for railroads to correct a mistake that we saw and map 21 that disproportionally and negatively impacted the alaska railroad. i am looking to see that fixed in the conference report. i've expressed my concerns, most specifically on the petroleum reserve that would be proposing to this would be the largest drawdown in history and at a time in the middle east where we have to preserve, my view as many of the barrels as possible because even minor changes in the market can have tremendous impact on her need for the reserve. because of the upton amendment, there is also an energy component to the highway bill, i think the good news for us is the energy committee and the senate voted 18 - 44 to report a bipartisan bill by several courts responding provision. we look to work together on
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that. i appreciate again the opportunity to be working together on this very important initiative. i think think the members. >> thank you senator. we recognize for an opening statements. >> thank you very much. i must say and to senator boxer, we work so hard and came to this institution together, you have been on reluctantly. going forward on your highway bill is long overdue. short-term patches have caused uncertainty and long-term transportation projects that have hindered projects that create jobs and help move our economy. in order to really make the meeting upgrades to the roads and bridges, level funding in this bill falls short. in addition, several of the offsets offered are problematic. they illustrate an effort to avoid the tough work of a grain
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to financing mechanisms within the transportation system and searching instead for unrelated and on wise revenue. for example, the example, the legislation includes $2.4 billion in revenue from private debt collection which subjects taxpayers for two harassment and other inappropriate debt collection techniques. when the irs most recently used private text collection in 2006 the program the program lost money. i urge the provision be removed. additionally, the funds generated by indexing custom user fees are desperately needed to ensure our nation's borders are secure. mitigate long times at a border for trade and travel. we need to ensure the u.s. is in compliance with its international obligations. funds generated by the payment of custom user fees have been
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long used to pay for customer related expenses and that is where they should remain. if i might add, on a somewhat personal note unrelated to her jurisdiction, i would also like to take this opportunity to associate myself with the senate provision that would raise the cap on passenger liability claims and railroad accidents to $295 million. i look forward to helping resolve these issues and others with my colleagues over the duration of this conference. thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you. without objection we're going to senator schumer because the senate has a vote. i know in our side of the aisle as soon as the gavel goes down because first but because this is a conference we try to do with seniority. so i recognize. >> chairman your father :-) and
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it is great to be back here in the house. but i poked my head in the banking community where he spent 18 happy years. i want us thank first senators boxer and in half for all the hard work they have done into this bill so far and for their continued efforts to improve the aging infrastructure. i want to thank generals schuster for their effort and we look forward to working with you. i want to thank speaker ryan has been very positive about moving the bill forward and not being stuck in any one way to do it but get it done, which we very much appreciate as well. the fact we can do this in a bipartisan ways is great news. that that is what the american people want us to do. we all know we are facing a huge infrastructure crisis in america. roads and bridges are crumbly, transit system falling into disrepair, lack of continued long-term investment is having a real impact on our economy.
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according to fha, 63,500 bridges thousand 500 bridges are structurally deficient. thousands of my state of new york. our nations roads are less than good condition. the situation with our transit situation is dire. the fda has said placement needs have created a backlog of 90,000,000,000 dollars of transit projects. with the significant needs in mind i welcome the chance to be part of this conference committee and work with all of you, both houses, both, both sides of the aisle towards a long-term solution to our nation's infrastructure challenges. the discussions have been productive. sometimes when we have these conference committees things move backward. but they keep moving forward on both the house side and set aside which gives me great cause of optimism that will get this done before our december 11 deadline. at the end of the process it is
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my hope that we not only have a bill that makes adequate investments but one that sets us on the path to clearing out the growing backlog of projects across the country. doing that will not only improve our nations infrastructure but put thousands of people back to work and improve our growth competitiveness and most important labor of the safety for the traveling public. i appreciate my colic from nebraska waiting to go, so i will ask unanimous consent that it thrust my statement be submitted to record. >> thank you we recognize senator from nebraska. >> thank you chairman schuster, it is an honor to be here at the house transportation of a structure committee. and to participate in this bipartisan conference committee to negotiate a multiyear highway bill. since my time in the brassica ensuring the safety, reliability and efficiency of our nation's transportation system has been deeply important to my work in public office. two of my
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signature accomplishments and that the unicameral have led to increased investment for nebraska's infrastructure and help local communities move forward with starting a completing those vital transportation projects. passing a long-term transportation bill has been one of my goals as a member of the united states senate. as chairman of the comets subcommittee an active member on the public worse committee i work closely with chairman as well as other senators to develop a comprehensive and reform oriented highway bill known as the drive act. the senate pass the bill in july and we did so without raising taxes on our hard-working american families. this august, i welcome transfer station secretary anthony foxx to lincoln nebraska where we convened a roundtable at the university of nebraska, lincoln's transportation research center. we were joined by local transportation stakeholders
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represented the railroad, highway highway construction, trucking, passenger, automobile, and aviation industry. at this important meeting, as well as that my listening session throughout the state, the message from nebraskans with loud and clear. our businesses, consumers, workers, and families once a multiyear highway bill. local communities and states need certainty to ensure critical and crucial infrastructure projects can get up and running. so, i look forward forward to working in collaboration with members of our conference committee to give nebraskans and all americans a multiyear highway bill that strengthens stacy, provide certainty, and increases united states global competitiveness. thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you senator fisher. with that, we recognize for an opening statement. >> thank you mr. chairman.
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i appreciate that. and congressman defazio and our senators on both sides of the aisle for providing me an opportunity to speak against section 1111. in hr 22. mr. chairman, the services committee has serious concerns with section 11, 11. the section is aimed at redoing a restrictive easement that the navy entered into in the waters around bangor submarine base so that a gravel company can build a peer for offloading gravel near the base. there is an effort to include this provision in the fiscal year 16 and the aa but both congressman thornberry and congressman smith objected to it. the department of navy has clearly indicated they do not support this provision area that according to the navy and i quote, the provision will harm
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current readiness at the navy base and other installations that are similarly situated near domestic aggregate reserve. the mission that naval base requires acoustic and characteristics that are not consistent, nor compatible with certain types of lands, or maritime development. the navy's concerned with encroachment on the base but there is also major concern is the easement the navy enter into it is still actually in litigation which is being pursued by the gravel company that wants this easement. i don't believe congress should be legislating on this issue when this is in the court system and undergoing legal proceedings. for these reasons, they repose the position and i believe the house committee should also do the same, mr. chairman and i yelled back. >> thank you. with that, i recognize
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mr. conley for an opening statement. >> thank you mr. chairman and mr. fazio, and senators for your leadership. all of the members especially on the committee for producing a bipartisan long-term funding plan. i was was in local government for 14 years. i did bridges, i did interchanges, i did sidewalks, did transit systems, did airports and all of those things have one thing in common. they are long-term planning projects. you cannot do infrastructure on six month increments are three-month increments. that is why is why this bill is so important. mr. chairman, i have a longer statement i would like to add in the record but i want my contribution to get this down and get it done now by yielding back the balance of my time. >> mr. conley gets a gold star. if we still had earmarks we
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probed boldly be considering that too. with that i recognize mr. duncan. >> thank you at the last i had the privilege of chairing the subcommittee so i know how difficult this type of legislation can be can i want to first of all commend you because i don't know, i don't believe anybody could have done a better job in handling this bill then you have done. and working with my friend peter defazio in a very bipartisan way. i had the privilege of years ago sitting back with senator in half on this very committee and i have always admired the senator and have great respect for the way that he and senator boxer has worked together on the senate side on these matters. let me say that i am really pleased that after spending hundreds of billions of dollars in a futile effort to attempt to rebuild the middle east over the
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past 15 years that we're finally passing a bill to rebuild this country and create hundreds of thousands of jobs that cannot be sent other countries. i want to thank mr. chairman for placing just about all of the cross that i made into this legislation, especially my prohibition on using federal funds for red light cameras which are merely revenue raisers and not really safety-related. also, i appreciate you putting in many of the provisions of the special panels that i asked to chair on for private partnerships. with that, mr. chairman i will just simply asked that my longer statement be placed in the record and thank you very much for giving me this time. >> i also want to thank you for your work on the two committees. thank you for all the hard work on that. next next we'll go to
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former chair of the committee and lost author of the mat 21,. >> thank you and leadership on both sides of the author moving forward with this bill and by getting it done. it's a tough job. but it is in good hands. just two things that i would like to mention. my priorities is i brought up on the house side, this is our last chance in six years to bring some reforms to amtrak. i consider myself one of the strongest advocates of moving people by passenger rail. i strongly believe amtrak is the last message of a soviet style monopoly, particularly in the northeast quarter for service. they have an have an opportunity to open the competition, that service and catch up with the rest of the world, congress will
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never give 150,000,000,000 dollars to amtrak in that quarter. the private sector can help, they have the expertise, knowledge to move the expertise, knowledge to move forward. you all just need to open the door, allow them to continue, the rest of the western world, even european union is now requiring competition and state-supported rail service. it is pitiful the train runs from new york to boston at 60 miles per hour, that's a joke. it is pitiful that from washington to new york it is 83 miles per hour. the second item is, and i requested this having seen there is never enough money and we always need to expand our roads and it is six benson, one of the alternatives is using alternate transportations. the latest system of deploying technology, we can do play that technology in the bill you have 137 i believe it is for research which is nice it goes to
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universities, it is academic tour, i have to be frank. but you have $67 million per year for actual the plowman of technology that will move traffic in our communities faster and smarter and cost-effectively. if we could even that out or reverse it you all could be the beneficiaries by getting that technology in your communities now, i will show you stacks of those studies from universities that are great. they're collecting are collecting dust on lots of shelves so if you want to continue that we can do it, if you want to move forward, we can move forward. those are couple of my priorities and i think we can also had some to the record. thank you. >> thank you i appreciate that. >> thank you.
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[inaudible] thank you mr. chairman. i yearn for the day that we have one of the most bipartisan committee in congress and we had a six-year deal and my only discussion of thoughts in this town was numbers, priorities. however, things have changed and i need to discuss what i support and what i do not support. first of all, i oppose the inclusion of the port metrics mandate that includes in the senate drive acts that create additional burdens on american port. this information mandate in the senate bill is all ready available and could encourage dangerous working conditions. moreover, the department of transportation statistic does not have the funding otherwise to collect these metrics. my home state of florida has 14, all of whom oppose this new
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reporting requirement. our report should be focused on preparing the facilities for large ships and increase cargo it should not be used as a wedge between port workers and the businesses they serve. i ask unanimous consent to include a letter from the florida florida port council concerning this issue. >> without objection, so ordered. >> it should be included in the final conference. language address the federal preemption was included in the house bill due to a bipartisan amendment that should be included without changing the final conference report. chalking companies are a critical link in our nation's supply chains and should not face difficult rules and regulation in each state they operate in. this amendment does not alter or roll back service regulations that currently governor drivers
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and it doesn't prevent drivers from taking meals or rest breaks. it simply allows professional truck drivers to determine the safest and best time to take a break without worrying about breaking federal laws. the last one, the national national advisory committee on travel and tourism infrastructure which seek to strengthen the economy contribution of travel and tourism in the united states, reduce congestion and improve leisure travel. improved travel safety safety and security and develop and maintain a transportation network that keeps america connected. lastly, a florida ranks the top with pedestrian driver index and our limit is one, jackson and tampa is closely connected, i encourage congress to include the safety street in the final bill. with that, i i want to thank you for your leadership in the
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ranking member and promoting a comprehensive company transportation deal so local communities can plan. with that you'll back the balance of my time. >> thank you. it is now my pleasure to recognize a new ways and means committee chairman first aim is. >> a morning everyone, i want to thank chairman schuster today, we are in the process of finalizing the key pleas of legislation. i'm glad i'm glad to be joined by my fellow committee members will be bringing their expertise to the discussion. we must provide funding for if a structure program. we have to make sure our nations road, skies and ports keep america petted it. keep her good safely moving across the country in and around the world. funding laid out before us is noah's first choice we want to see a permanent solution so we can stop kicking the can down the road on an issue that impacts so many people across the country. i'm concerned about some of the
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revenue provisions in the ways and means jurist's shin, however it is important for us to work together and find a way to address the shortfall for years not just months. this positive step gives the committee the jurisdiction sometime to work on a more permanent solution are construed to's, and global allies are looking for. it is also encouraging to have a genuine debate about transportation policy. to work out the differences so we can all come together to help advance progrowth agenda and get america back on track. again chairman thank you for your leadership, i look for to getting to work. >> thank chairman brady. i chairman brady. i look for to working with you as we go forward. with that i recognize senator korman for statement. >> thank you mr. chairman. i'm glad to be able to serve on this conference committee focusing on a matter of critical importance to this committee and
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my state as well. it represents a milestone as members work to create a multiyear highway bill for the first time in a decade, and long overdue. with service transportation program set to expire on friday it is imperative to work quickly to reach a bipartisan and bicameral agreement. i work for two working with my colleagues to address a number of issues which happen to be particularly important to my state. for example, upgrading the freight corridors and interstate system that move goods through my state to global markets every day. providing additional resources for public-private partnerships and border infrastructure. >> ..
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we are growing. some estimates showing her state population doubling by the year 2050. on average more than 600 people move to texas every day. a testament to the opportunities that exist in our thriving economy but a trend that requires improving roadway maintenance and capacity to meet the rising demand. doing nothing represents an unacceptable outcome and so i
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look forward to working with everyone on the conference committee and their house colleagues in particular to produce a multiyear highway bill for the first time in a decade. thank you mr. chairman. >> mickey senator and i know texas does have great needs down there. moving and growing and with that i would recognize mr. crawford for a statement. >> thank you mr. chairman and its stand everybody talks about working quickly. i ask unanimous consent to submit my comments for the record and neil back. >> did i miss that? with that senator barrasso. >> thank you chairman shuster and vice-chairman and often thank you for holding this important meeting for all the conferees. they also want to thank senator boxer cardin and congressman defazio for their hard work to get us here today. the senate bill called the drive that creates a program that will
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be critical to ensuring that the livery of goods and services and to move across state lines efficiently and safely. we allow bureaucrats in washington to decide which projects get funded we will inevitably created patchwork of interstate systems. i believe the senate position will help every state by distributing funding through the formula. if we want to maintain a highway system we must include rural states. miami we have a short construction season that typically starts in may and ends up -- ends in october depending on the weather so we need to give our state's department of construction the time into plan as we continue to reconcile the differences between the house and the senate bill. i urge the committee to ask where the long-term bill. i look forward to working with everyone to get this done. >> thank you senator and with that recognize the chairman of the senate finance committee
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senator hatch. >> thank you mr. chairman and chairman inhofe as well and thank you to the rest of my colleagues. >> could you speak into the microphone aittle bit more? >> i want to thank all the rest of my colleagues on both sides of the hill all of whom deserve credit for their hard work and in getting us this far. ever since safety bill was enacted more than 10 years ago most consider the prospect of a long-term infrastructure built to be dim at best and here we are on the cusp of enacting the longest multiyear highway bill since 2005 obviously in many respects we still have quite a ways to go. while the house and senate have passed good ills that are worthy of the praise they have received a think most of us would still like to see us establish dedicated funding stream to pay for infrastructure so we are not continually trying to cobble together offsets to pay for
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roads and bridges. my hope is that we will still keep this long-term goal in mind however this conference is successful this legislation will be a tremendous accomplishment. i think for everybody and will give each of our states a degree of stability that they have not had for many years. it will be a significant win for good government and while there might be some who have issues with some of the individual offsets or the differences in funding levels between the senate and the house bills, i think it's important that we work together to accomplish what we are able to do right now which is to pass a multiyear funding bill but then the baseline established by each of the senate passed bills. without stable foundation in place there'll be ample time to continue working on infrastructure funding and financing issues only now we won't have to do that work staring into the abyss of insolvency. we must not take what we have
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accomplished so far for granted. the chambers are coming into this conference with a bipartisan bill to pass an overwhelming majority. now's the time to show that we can follow through. finally let me say while it will be difficult i believe we can pass this legislation before the current extension expires and i would take some effort but i think it's a very achievable goal one that although should have in mind as we proceeded with that let me thank my colleagues once again for their hard work. i look forward to working with all of you is remove business process and is been a privilege to work with everybody so far. thanks for listening to me. >> thank you senator hatch. appreciate your remarks on finding a long-term solution to the highway trust fund. as soon as we get the president's signature we have to work in earnest to make sure we figure out the stakeholders, how we get to a funding source that
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we don't have to go through these every five or six years finding money behind the couch in the cushions so thank you very much for those words. with that i recognize ms. johnson for an opening statement. >> thank you very much mr. chairman and let me thank all of the leadership who have gotten us to this point. to address our critical infrastructure needs. i look forward to working with you and her colleagues on this conference committee to complete work on a long-term bill that will provide much-needed certainty from state, local governments and agencies. since 2009 congresses past 35 short-term extensions reauthorizing programs. this has not only undermine their ability to make long-term decisions about the future of our nation's transportation infrastructure, but it has also driven up the cost of projects while delaying and halting
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our -- entirely. a timely transportation systems are challenged by infrastructure , declining revenues and increased usage making long-term investments in our transportation infrastructure is absolutely vital. one way we can achieve this is by providing access to reliable and robust financing, in recognition of this fact one of our key priorities is to ensure that the tifia program has added funding to -- unfortunately the measure before us today significantly reduces the tifia program and i urge my colleagues to consider only the highest possible funding for this program so that we can ensure that financial support is readily available. as the ranking member of science and technology committee in the house i recognize that long-term viability and transportation
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system also largely rests on quality research. any legislation should be absent of any provisions that inhibit this goal of funding new research or obstruct the department of transportation's ability to promote new innovations and finally safety along our highways should be of the utmost importance as we move forward. a conference of transportation network must include safety of the traveling public and ensure that the federal and state authorities make important safety considerations. it is my hope that we can continue to work in a bipartisan eye camera manner on a bill that will provide a safe local governments in transit agencies with the certainty they need to plan long-term projects. this bill is important to the
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american people and to our economy to enact a long-term bill that adequately invest in our transportation infrastructure and intern in our future. i think you and i yield back traded. >> thank you ms. johnson for your statement and now i go to mr. barletta. >> thank you mr. chairman. even the members of both the house and senate the senate offer long-term solutions to our highway trust fund shortfall it is irresponsible that neither the house or the senate have worked on serious reforms. we have not adjusted to the user pay for infrastructure in 20 years. or considered innovative revenue streams. instead we have spent viable time searching for short-term gimmicks. we should not be lobbying the bank's homeowners are customs to pay for roads and bridges. this is fiscally responsible. at some point we have to say enough is enough. that time has come. we need a long-term robustly funded will.
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i'm hopeful that this bill will provide communities the tools that they need to invest in america's infrastructure. i was happy to work with chairman shuster and ranking members the fazio on important roadway safety issues such as preventing heavier trucks on driving on our local roads and ensuring that we always on the highway safety improvement program. this program invested infrastructures like guardrails rumble strips and reflective signs. while you will never read in the headlines of your newspaper rumble strips saves family of four this program saves lives every day and for that reason alone should not face cuts in the senate bill. additionally the house bill includes commonsense provisions to make sure farm vehicles are not regulated like long-haul trucks. makes crude oil being transported by freight and rail safer and gives first responders more time to react in the
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unlikely event of a derailment. finally, many of the policy ideas that i introduced in the safer trucks and buses act were incorporated. critical that safety scores are not publicly displayed for buses and trucks. investing in infrastructure is good for the local economy and good for america and i commend the committee. >> thank you mr. barletta and now it's my pleasure to recognize for an opening statement senator durbin. >> thank you very much chairman shuster. i want to thank chairman inhofe ranking member boxer in the fazio and other members of the conference committee who worked hard to bring this to this day. i want to apologize for my speaking today -- if issa at a beer for breakfast is because i just came from the dems office. we have seen progress in passing a long-term service transportation bill. i look over to working with my colleagues to keep the momentum moving. this conference will be able to
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finish the bill help rebuild their infrastructure and our economy. i'm going to ask that my statement be hard of the record without objection so i won't read it in its sincerity because i know other members are wanting to speak but i do want to say this was truly a bipartisan effort in the senate. initially there were perhaps six or seven senators supporting senator boxer in this effort but as we worked through it on a bipartisan basis at the end, 27 democratic senators supported his this effort more than a majority and then of course the substantial majority of the republican site so what we bring to this conference is truly a bipartisan effort. i see congressman lipinski is here and i'm sure he will recount the importance of this bill to the state of illinois and to the midwest that i won't go into detail on it. it's critical for us not only in highway money for transit money as well as money for our bus services around the chicago metropolitan area and around the
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state. finally as i look at the wall here and see the paintings of some of the portraits of some of the former chairs i realized that i knew most of them and served with many of them and i can recall when this highway bill was one of the easiest bills to pass on capitol hill. this committee for public works committee was one of the largest if not the largest. members could wait to get on the committee and then in the name of reform eliminated earmarks and things changed overnight. this became a debating topic. i happen to be one of record who believes that congressional input in terms of projects in your district and in your state is valuable. i think i know a little bit more about about illinois then any bureaucrat who works for the u.s. department of transportation and maybe even the illinois department of transportation but i will say that debate for another day. let me just say this. i believe we have a critical role to play. i think the federal government
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leadership in this area is essential. in our state about 80% of highway construction is paid for with federal funds. for those who believe they should be strictly state and local responsibility i have three words. dwight david eisenhower who decided an interstate highway system was critical not only for national defense that the growth of our national economy and history has proven him right that i hope we can reaffirm our commitment to our transportation system. i think the chairman for his kindness and allowing me to say a few words. see i thank you senator and i don't know if you heard there was a muffled applause when you talk about congressional spending and i would certainly agree with you on president eisenhower and what he did going back to lincoln and beyond is a federal responsibility responsibility to be part of that team so thank you for being here today and i would like to mention two you being here means the senate participated 100%. i would like to say the same for my house colleagues so thank you
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senator durbin. with that ms. edwards is recognized for an opening statement. >> thank you very much mr. shuster and also to senator inhofe for today and for your commitment to the long-term surface transportation reauthorization. as a member but the transportation and infrastructure committee and the science committee i look forward to working with you and the other members here to send a good bill to the president. for decades or transportation network was robust investment in research and development at its core supporters strong american economy. transportation innovation stretched across all modes from advances to highway pavement material to mass transit technology to innovate of railroad track and pipeline and likewise in the transportation systems research connected vehicle research and autonomous research to make transportation safer faster and more environment with friendly for the 21st century. making her the structure work smarter for us is critical and
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as the representative of maryland for the district i am personally invested in a federal efforts to make congestion in this fast-growing region as well as across the nation encouraging innovative transportation technologies and -- start with sustainable funding for basics and apply research and development at the department of transportation. and its research partners such as the university of maryland. i'm concerned about that both the house and senate both contain provisions that tax existing r&d programs to fund new deployment programs or otherwise put research funding at risk by moving it out of the highway trust fund. i'm agreed that the additional deployment activities are worthy investment but research funding in this bill is far below the needed level. we don't protect research investment today we will not have that the planet ready technologies that we will need 10 years from now. the bills before us to include
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several important provisions which i support. among them providing new and direct federal oversight, transfer of metro or appointments to the u.s. department of transportation, enabling planning agencies to mitigate stormwater impacts increasing funding for distributed to local government for continued funding for small business contract opportunities for minorities and women business programs and i do look forward to continuing our work on these efforts. thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you ms. edwards and without we go to mr. farah told for an opening statement. santa thank you very much mr. shuster. investing in this country's infrastructure should be a top party for congress. as a member of the house transportation and infrastructure committee i was delighted to work on the important passage of a multiyear transportation bill which is critical to all those responsible for maintaining and using america's roads and bridges. this bill provides more flexibility and certainty for
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states and local government accelerates project delivery and promotes innovation to make our transportation programs more effective. in my own state of texas we have seen massive growth both in population and in our economy which presents a major and unique challenge for state to build and maintain our current and future infrastructure. with major projects underway such as completing interstate 69 rebuilding the harper bridge in my hometown of corpus christi and ensuring reliable access for waterways and ports is critical to get to work on completion of the conference report. you must also continue to support innovation in our transportation system. the 21st century is going to be very different. we are going to sail through to fuel vehicles using battery power and natural gas or other fuels. thomas vehicles in a shared economy will also be part of her 21st century transportation and we need to pave the way for these innovations. i'm honored to be selected as cumbrian look forward to working
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with my colleagues to find a great way to meet her 21st century transportation needs for texas internation and i yield back. >> thank you mr. farenthold then i recognize mr. larson for an opening statement. >> thank you mr. chairman. in washington state transportation means jobs and investing in a roads, bridges and highways and transit systems puts people to work and keep the economy moving. one of the issues that's important in washington's adequate funding for ferry boats. are a lifeline interstate and not a luxury. thousands of people might district and throughout the state and the country is very both everyday to get to and from work and i agree that additional funding for the system is a key part of a final agreement particularly if there's a move to change the funding formulas within the ferryboat program. another major issue that i hear about is the trouble that smaller and midsized cities have competing with bigger cities for federal resources.
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the house bill includes language i offer that creates an expedited application process for smaller projects that want to use financing that i believe will help smaller cities in my district compete for federal systems. it will help pedestrian products get funding. sidewalks trails and bike lanes are critical parts of the transportation network. less than 2% of federal transportation funding goes to transportation alternatives programs but committees that leverage small funds get good results. it's another critical part of the network or transportation of people depend on to get to work and school each day. it's important that changes made in the house bill to require competition nationally for transit funding. finally appreciate that both bills for crude oil traveling by rail and her bridge infrastructure. i hope we can push push forward a book of his issues which are important to my district and i
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are important to my district and i want to echo ms. brown's comments regarding important metrics. thank you for your leadership mr. chairman the full committee and i look forward to the opportunity to weigh in and i yield back. >> thank you mr. larston now i recognize mr. nadler for an opening statement. santa thank you for my colleagues successfully getting this transportation bill to congress. first and foremost we must determine the overall funding levels but according to toc there's a 1 trillion-dollar that was of need some highways bridges at transit and rabbit keeps growing and neither has done much to address it. the senate bill is not much better. everyone wants a long-term bill for liability and planning but that still the preferable option if we allow flatter minimum funding. that's a for five-year bill and a higher funding that would be a better -- i'm proud of the program was created in the house bill which provides dedicated funding for large-scale
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multilevel projects that are critical for our regional and national economy. their there are number of transit issues that must be addressed if to support the final package that the amendment offered on the house floor eliminates the high density apportionment under transit section 53 port he ignored to provide more funding programs. i would like to note although the amendment passed by voice vote it is not without controversy. section 5340 provides critical funding for communities all around transit dependent states cutting section 5340 whatever stray transit service not only in new york and syracuse but also in places like aberdeen maryland new hampshire and allentown pennsylvania. nafta and the amp bipartisan delegation of new jersey delaware rhode island new york and maryland urged congress to reject these harmful cuts in section 5340. it should go without saying that
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in an environment where funding is limited to simply cannot make drastic changes in state allocations and cut funding so deeply communities around the country. it's not fair and it's not sound economic policy and will jeopardize the bill's passage. new star should be treated equally to other transit projects and we must carefully manage provisions relating to motor carrier safety and environmental mining. finally there's a bipartisan effort underway which i very much support to include the 9/11 compensation program in the final conference report. congress must act to reauthorize these programs before the end of the year. legislation to permanently reauthorize already has two to 48 co-sponsors in the house and the filibuster proof 65 co-sponsors in the senate. it would ensure the programs not close their doors on respondents and survivor so i urge their inclusion in the urged the session of section 5340 the senate version of the bill and i
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think you and i yield back. >> thank you mr. nadler. i now go to mr. gibbs for an opening statement. >> thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you mr. chairman another like to thank chairman shuster and ranking member defazio and inhofe and boxer for the hard work in bringing these bipartisan bills to the conference committee. i'm proud to support this legislation as a reduces red tape and migratory birds streamlining components included in map-21. the star act includes necessary reforms to the complaint safety and accountability program. we have heard from constituents that this program has flawed methodology and what impact their businesses negatively. i am encouraged by their form to revamping the methodology as we step forward to make the system work and give fair judgment to our carrier operators. mr. chairman the water subcommittee on the environment,
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glad her senate colleagues include important change in the finance division at otherwise known as libya in the drive that traded to loan guarantee pilot program was authorized in 2014 to provide additional funding source for drinking water wastewater and water for structure projects. each dollar loan leverages at least $10 making these loans extremely beneficial to communities that have major challenges with the water infrastructure projects. the drive act allows communities to use the loans in combination with tax-exempt bonds and bring more opportunities for structure so i hope it's included in the final bill. finally a simple amendment i offered on the floor directing the department transportation to study the process of state determined sewer materials is
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included in the star act. congress is maybe unique process in recent years with changes in safety louis toyman. provided these changes i think it's beneficial study that determines how the cost environmental and engineering principles affect the state's procurement process. look forward to working with my colleagues on the committee to reach a final agreement to pass the first long-term highway bill and decade by retaining important reforms in the surface transportation policy and i yield back. >> thank you mr. gives and ms. napolitano is recognized for statement. >> thank you chairman shuster and i'm sorry we lost congressman defazio. >> i'm not sure if we have lost him. i'm trying to pick out whether he went by his own accord or whether we cut them off. i'm not sure. >> thank you also to chairman inhofe and senator boxer for
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their extraordinary work work you have done collectively and i associate myself with remarks of my colleagues with regards to this six-year bill and how commending you have been to getting this worked done. i'm honored to be on the committee and i have had input from stakeholders including the economic partnership to construction authority. the gateway services of l.a. l.a. metro and california caltrans on their behalf from requesting the following issues be held in conference and i ask unanimous consent with the chairman listed these requests be placed on the record. i referred to section 1419 included in the house provision. we also look at the state states labor in section 1401b of hov degradation. we also look at allowing
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coordinated structure 44 transit agencies to continue working on this two-tier structure. we also look at improving with bipartisan support with congressman ryan to improve medication and air quality programs for metro planning organizations. section 27011 response plan consulting the state. the senate level of 300 billion for transportation for structure for tifia support language of eligibility projects with congressman gibbs 1432 sewer materials. ..
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>> now this generation and asks our children to pay for our roads and bridges maybe we should pay for our own. it is time for this committee, we didn't have jurisdiction on the transportation committee but we do here. stand up and pay the bill if we take it is important enough we should pay for it. i yield back. this. >> we have said that we need to do that for our country
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to do that the runway -- the right way but we are doing a good job and thank you for your work by m honored to be a conferee. volume police we're starting with to bipartisan bills to conference with dash finalize the conference report during the market's ban on the floor with a core capacity programs the changes that were delayed with deadly have a bill to build up their capacity to serve the writers well. with this safety rules to preserve increase funding and technical assistance eligibility within zero a mission buses am also of
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number the house bill contains language that creates a regional transportation center to connect the infrastructure. connected vehicles are a big part of a solution to alleviate congestion and improve safety this will become more prevalent we should be doing more research into the opportunities into automated and connected vehicle systems. the interagency working group in improvements of proposal regulations in the private programs. the bill is not perfect starting with the needs for hire authorization.
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i am pleased to see freight programs and the conference report read to allow for a series of integrated pieces it it must the multi modal. after all we will be funding not just the highway trust fund. we have our work cut out for a silent toward to rolling up my sleeves and my tie is a statement and i am happy to have been included in this bill. >> through the of leadership of the remember there's a strong bill to make a significant improvement butted the opinion i still have work to do my hope this
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isn't an exercise in futility. i expect all conferees to have a say and many issues have yet to be resolved. hoping that legislation is not concocted there backroom deals and handshakes that is that the purpose of a conference committee. members want to participate. one thing this legislation does not address is the threshold and in this day engaged it is not dated throwback to the economy of 80 years ago. this was first passed 1931 crippling regulations is something this conference must address the independent trucking companies have an arbitrary increase with the minimum insurance
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requirements to have notes jurisdiction whatsoever in that process. we must ensure the final product to uphold our efforts as well. companies to compete for transportation to shift away from a monopoly in the public transportation sector. pas -- --. >> thanks to all the ranking members but to agree my chair and ranking member for go looking at them ntb idea of the movie the sleeper and the picture of the leader that was not present but always there of the ball.
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if you like to read with a few air of the prague that are left. i have learned from the opening remarks that mr. duncan should be the engine and also mr. schuster i would like to encourage this bill for the cruise vacation hub of america i would like to emphasize some i'd like the amendment to be maintained to provide local transit systems for the eritreans and services over the next five years with in 1 million troops will return to life and also with an aging population that is my easter seals and the
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paralyzed veterans of america support that amendment which is in the bill of the house side. and i hope the conference committee ceps those developments eligible for programs it is important for the indirect and with good planning people will likely use the programs that vernier -- or near. i am proud to be a member of the committee and i yield back the three seconds that i have left. >> 84 organizing this meeting. i am pleased the house and senate are coming together for the transportation bill and thank them for their hard work. the infrastructure is in
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dire need of investment to accomplish a short-term extension this approach is a certain end is not a sound method to run the government. although i encourage an extremely concerned by the funding levels of each. those that meet the new rates of the highway trust system. also for the most densely populated states, new jersey is the most densely populated state in the country. the community that i am livid 21 square miles of 51,000 people. with in hoboken another with
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51,000 people and jersey city is the largest populated in the state. we rely heavily on transit for every day to the irritation the take it off is reckless to push buttons out of where it is most needed. to submit a plate impair the ability to a field with the capital program needs to maintain the state of good repair and maintenance the final report should not contain any provisions to these agencies and i think the chair for the hard work. >> thanks for your hard work to kraft this bill is a pleasure to survive this
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committee with my first year in congress capped off by what i consider to be a landmark legislation from almost a decade of short-term extensions instead of long-term fixes. bin to be changed by amendment to eliminate the of funding and the second state to receive funding to provide half of all trades in this country to insure that states receive the funding they need with the robust three of this system. controlled by the department of transportation would wreak havoc on the most heavily used areas of the country.
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veterans it agency is cover the 20 percent minority faces dire financial difficulties. that cost to be inflicted upon the northeast including those in this district. we need to act. we should act to restore this program this is how the federal system is supposed to work. they should get more transit funding as of more agricultural but if it supports the farm bill that is the way it goes. if we don't act half the nation's transit users will instantly be worse off. if we don't the economies that are the four most drivers better highly dependent on transit will suffer greatly the nation's economy will suffer as a result. we should act because it is a prudent thing to do. we need to get back to the
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spirit of cooperation to ensure they receive unanimous support. they give for your consideration he could travel his district by foot but i will travel by car as it is upstate new york. >>. >> thank you for your leadership this is a foundational bill to get the rest of the key years with transportation in my encouragement to make that as long as certain as possible. to make this as serious as possible. the ups headquarters there
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so these are issues when you have skin in the game you come together as of a price tag you cannot put that price tag on the family time you cannot have the price tag on a lawful community this is the beginning of the and. and now for days with others have been able to do over decades. so with the work of my colleague syllable sides of the aisle has continued and i am grateful to be a
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partner if they want to pay their fair share to get $1 worth of value out of federal taxes. that is what the bill aims to do. >> thank you mr. chairman. texas is a growing state which i represent the 36 district the fact it will double the population that we have the potential for unlimited growth and expansion because the biggest thing holding us back is transportation. period we indeed that all. in my district alone with over the petrochemical facilities more than any other district in the entire
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nation. to manufacture products and equipment so all over the world. the reason why texas has created board than half of the new jobs over the last decade. but they are not just pull big businesses to get to school and not just sit in traffic. banks to the committee for cooperating with requests that i put forward to read this bill better for america in texas. it hasn't always been easy with this bill the region all be proud of and with that i yield back. >> thank you, mr. chairman chairman.
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the new here to have this group for word as day general engineering contractor 20 years the uncertainty that can cause in this economy. to be built around short-term patches that is why i stand with my colleagues to offer my support from the day i was assigned from the transportation committee it was my primary goal. after months of hearing these conversations to float it is a forward piece of legislation. this designation is vitally
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important for my state of nevada but also the country. we need to keep focus on the mechanisms moving forward. is not sustainable to the industry relies so heavily on long-term planning. and i support the lake tahoe language but the tax-exempt bonds. in tune with the use of credit as any indication to have all members implied figure mr. chairman.
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>> i appreciate the opportunity to be here. thank you for your leadership on this bill read the importance of having a certainty is critical. to make them more expensive with cost taxpayers money with your ultimate outcome of the important to restructure. for those that our important
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from the freight perspective the only place it in the nation going from california to florida go to google maps it is ridiculous what is happening. so the fact we're in that than is a result as a lack of state priorities and investments as well as for infrastructure. we have seen in the past for infrastructure for the national economy with gasoline prices spite nationwide we need to make sure these investments are resilient and have the proper capacity. we need additional wayans a additional funding went to importance the role because
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play for our existing utilization the vegetative many steps further it is important to proceed to use the solution to properly utilize that excess capacity and wesley as mentioned, we need additional funds for the highway bill. we cannot continue to under and best with the hired by jeff funding streams creates much bigger problems in the future. >>. >> congratulations to you
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end drinking member for your hard work and i am honored today to represent the committee of the tax policies to aid a long-term highway bill but for too long to fail to pass a long-term solution on the limits are potential but has consequences for state and local economy. to depend on a strong transportation system to move goods if not in place
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read this losing out to foreign competitors. with a global economy getting goods to market the ports slowdown resulted in customer relationships and in my area millions of dollars of high-quality produce going to waste. with estimated $100 million that was no longer sellable. reavis insurer that we're strong to move the goods to what transports them to consumers overseas. i hope this is finished -- an issue we can address and focus more resources on responsible road safety
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including those to use the safe transportation of crude oil to work with states to redress of secure votes. there may be a disagreement i will follow the common objective will help us to move past these differences that the american people can be proud of on the people's desk. i yield back. >> mr. smith. let the big hero been with the senators of the two high with bills it is essential be find a way to the interstate his rotation system.
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that it continues to route through stability with the quality of life for citizens. i appreciate the time and effort that has dogged to finalize that effort the long term transportation bill. but the provisions of the house and senate bills divert research money away to find employment in demonstration initiatives. this already reduces the scarce dollars available for innovation. in to require robust research plans at the department of transportation. event is part of the science committee. had of that subcommittee by voice vote and a that result
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from are in the efforts ultimately benefit the constituents we represent. i expect there to be further discussions by our staff as we continue to work cooperatively particularly under the jurisdiction of the science committee. in real afford to working with you in the senate. with those concerns of the surface transportation conference. >> to the infrastructure committee is that i thank
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you to speaker wright and for this legislation is to look at that historic legislation allocates for artur represent with the agreement. to have that transportation system with those cars and trucks they rely of their cars each day to safely transport their families. and then to work and next-generation to protect the public to make the roads safer.
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and just to reduce crashes for. to share in the responsibility that americans are holding on for a longer period of time. the average age of the cars is 11 and 1/2 and expected to gross 12 years. with that greater longevity of cars of the road if we can resolve our differences we can better protect the lives of the public the public for virtue working with my colleagues and i yield back. >> did you yield back? you may guess that was written in the bottom line.
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[laughter] >> yorktown recognized. >> i thank my colleagues for the opportunity to produce a multi-year transportation bill. we are challenged to reduce traffic congestion around the area that we deal with every day. with the science said dick elegy committee with the development for portions to associate myself with the comments made from the sun and sand technology committee regarding the surface transportation development act it and i would also like to thank the chairman for including portions of the bill one is
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a bad traffic congestion. my goal is to ensure those portions of the bill will produce the results of traffic challenges that we all face. >> the last not least as the desire to serve the first one i was heard a the camera was. so that a set that was almost out the door so this is the first time so 14 years later. you are recognized for your statement. >> also to the ranking member progress a new member of congress by a mobile am
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grateful for the opportunity to be here today in reply to thank the speaker for selecting me to participate on the house natural resources committee also my colleagues in their jurisdiction for their hard work to get double the year transportation bill through each chamber. my constituents plunder stand out important a long-term transportation bill is for economic growth. the opportunity to improve the transit programs while investing in infrastructure is a tremendous step in the right direction is the backbone of our economy. it is critical we provide long-term certainty as repairs if the grades to the networks are planned end executed. 42% of the major roads are in poor or mediocre conditions costing 3.
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$7 billion per year of operational costs. as we work with irreconcilable differences to streamline provisions with updates to infrastructure of federal and tribal land. then that would benefit all americans. >> with that their ardor no other members your. it is a the same without you sitting next to me adding commentary. sometimes it is so colorful we cannot turn on his microphone. we look forward to having you back here after the thanksgiving recess.
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thanks for joining us today. the goal from the beginning to get this to the president indelicate the stakeholders it and we have to sit down with a solution that everybody can agree to. that we can live with to sustain the highway trust try and long term to make sure the members of both legislative bodies maybe not next year but there year after. so after december 4th we will come together and figure out how to move forward.
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we have a lot of work to do. miss waters just what did. do you wish to make a statement? you beat the gavel. city where you want. >> thank you. this watters is recognized for a statement. >> debut very much fakes for coming together to reauthorize the export-import bank urging them also includes a package of 17 . . backed by the house under pip the senate.
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pas items of the policies behind the measures for those consumer protections are invested. so how we pay for this bill i find it difficult to understand this is the credibility of the central bank for those that our unwilling to raise the gasoline tax. to have the dividend payment with the federal reserve redefined sets a horrible precedent to respond to events i believe that we would put the cost of building bridges and roads of the backs of those of all
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this to lead the that the on freddie mac a and fannie mae. but neither imposes housing taxes they do and i yield back. >> happy thanksgiving especially staff. we will see you when we get back. we stand adjourned. [inaudible conversations]
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>> remains unaccounted for. that's assuming epa's clean power plans provide scrutiny, big if. second, will not change the rise in trajectory of global omission. nearly all developing countries particularly the large emerging economist have offered little
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beyond business as usual. a recent report from the convention estimates that even in the unlikely event all country pledges are implemented to the letter. global emissions between 2010 and 2030 where then or close to the range where they are headed anyway. they should surprise no one. third, the disparity and national commitment results from most countries place a great priority on economy than greenhouses. using data from plants that on the eve of the paris climate talks 1.2 trillion watts plants are under construction or around the world.
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the carbon constrain world, this is not. mouth, likely result in emissions leaking from other country. the united states has a tremendous energy price advantage over many of the competitors, overregulated from epa could force energy to flee to other countries similar to what we are seeing in europe, three to four times higher than here in the united states. fifth, developing countries will not undertake any meaningful commitments without large doses of financial aid. 1% of annual dgp from 2020 on, which in 2014 would have implied u.s. contribution of $170 billion. other suggestions are equally extravagant. a great deal share will have to
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be appropriated by the congress. sixth, technology is the key. existing technologies can make a start but as we have seen, they are not capable of significantly cutting omissions on global scale. that is why the shairver will continue to emphasize energy policy designs to lower the cost of alternative cost of energy. question of the real work of the convention, organizations secretary recently had this to say about the paris deal, we are setting ourselves a task of intentionally to change the economic development model that has been 150 years since the industrial revolution, end quote . the rest of the world understands that affordable, available and scalable energies
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is not the problem, it's the solution. given all this, it seems clear to the paris agreement whether it has legal force or not, should be submitted to the congress' approval. back in 1997 the clinton administration offered up a nonrealistic u.s. goal disregarding clear guidance and therefore never bothered to dismiss from the senate. obama administration is repeated and making promises future presidents and congress neither willing or able to keep. it's dejavu all over again. thank you. >> thank you. mr. wasco.
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>> my testimony this morning makes three main points. first taking action on climate change can bring substantial economic benefits and interest of the united states, a growing body of evidence shows that it can go hand in hand. in recent experience of the national and state levels demonstrates that we can achieve both, low-carbon future, smart infrastructure investments and it technological innovation.
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have recently committed to emission reduction targets in their own supply chains there in line with challenge. it's also essential because if nations fail to come together to combat climate change the u.s. will suffer billions of dollars to damage of agricultural, forestry, fiduciaries and coastal areas. in a recent report from the cna military advisory board of retired high-ranking military officers highlighted the growing threats from the effect of climate change as well. it is in our national interest to act at home and work with other countries to achieve an international agreement where all countries act together and where the most of their impacts in the united states can be avoided. my second theme, u.s. emissions target is in fact, achievable, ambitious but achievable. we can meet the target using
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federal laws combined with actions by the states. well designed policy can accelerate recent market and technology trends and renewable energy, energy efficiency, alternative vehicles and in other areas to meet the 20 to 28% bellow 2005 pledge. recent report delivering on the commitment shows several pathways to get there. we can achieve this target while generating multicobenefits while maintaining economic growth. the clean power plan will reduce in exposure. and then third, leadership by the united states is paying significant dividends, helping dispurse greater action around the world. in the lead up to paris agreement, more than 160
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countries, representing over 90% of global emissions. this national climate plants will deliver significant redunkses in emissions. the international national energy estimates a shift in global average temperature rise down to four degrees given business as usual policies. it's not enough yet but it's a significant step. more over the agreement will be reached between all parties, all countries at the climate summit in paris and it's a major step forward to meeting objectives in this venue. most important it will be applicable to all which was ratified by the senate in 1992 by voice vote t, both developed
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and developing. and it's structured based on determining plans has enabled broad-based participation and set a new pathway for international action. the agreement will also include vital provisions on transparency and ensure that all countries continue to move forward in a regular and common way to a commonly understood goal. finally, it can help mobilize the investment needed for low-carbon economists from an array of countries and from the private sector. and it can address the serious climate related impacts around the world specially by the most vulnerable countries. to conclude the actions that countries are taking around the world along with the international framework for those efforts should be viewed as a significant success for the united states and its leadership role.
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meeting the global challenge of climate change requires global solution by action by all. thank you. >> thank you. ms. jacobson. >> thank you, senator ca punishing ito and members of the committee. it's a broad-based industry association and we represent companies and other trade associations in the energy efficiency renewable energy and natural gas sectors. since its founding in 1992 counsel has been advocating for policies at state and national levels that increase the use of international available products and services. as an important back-drop to my testimony, findings, the fact book was researched and produced and commissioned by the council.
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it is a report intended to be resource for policymakers with up-to-date accurate information. its goal to offer important benchmarks, it also provides information on finance and investment trends. the 2015 addition of the fact book points to dramatic changes in the energy sector over the past several years. traditional energy sources are delining, while natural gas renewable energy and energy efficiency are playing a larger role. these changes are increasing the diversity of the country's energy mix, improving our energy security, cutting energy waste, increasing our energy productivity. the fact book shows that the u.s. economy is becoming more energy productive and less energy intensive. by one measure u.s. growth domestic product of energy
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consumed productivity has increased by 54% since 1990. between 2007 and 2014 total energy fell by 2.4% by gdp grew by 8%. this was driven largely by energy efficiency and transportation power generation and building sectors. energy-related carbon dioxide emissions decreased. natural gas and renewable energy sectors offer readily available low-carbon solutions. it can be used today to provide reliable, affordable and clean energy options for public and private sector customers. in 2014 u.s. investment and clean energy technologies reached $51.8 billion and these sectors are providing hundreds
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of thousands of well-paid jobs in the country. it will bring delegation of members to attend the 21 as business observers. this organization consistently engaged in climate change process since early 1990's, participates in the process to offer information on deployment trends and technology costs as well as policy best practices. council members view negotiations as a valuable forum to chair information on policy frame borics and help inform policy choices of countries using to deploy clean energy options. countries are serious about investing in low-carbon solutions. u.s. government leadership and engagement in the international
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clay mite change process supports u.s. business interest. further, u.s. leadership increases ambition of other nations. it also helps protect u.s. business interest such as protection of property rights. the council's coalition calls for government to deliver concise and durable agreement. with over 91% of global emissions and 90% of global population covered by the intended nationally determined contributions of 161 countries nations are showing a collective commitment to spur investment in countries around the world. the council believes that a well-structured agreement will be investment over time. as we look over next several
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decades even high levels -- business community is increasingly considering climate change and its impacts as part of its corporate strategies. thank you. >> right on the dot there, thank you very much. i will begin with the questions and i want to start with mr. ku. professor ku. first one is legally binding issue, whether it's a treaty, sole executive agreement, it's kind of a two-part question. some argue that the senate when -- excuse me. some argue that the senate approved emissions when ratified framework in 1992, didn't the bush administration in '92 state
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that amendments to that framework, specially one targeting timetables should be treated, that's my question. the intent of 1992 that any further targets that were established would be part of approval process and then i'm going to ask you the next question you can answer once on the sole executive agreement issue. it's stated that those have been used to justify the authority and would you say that those are typically used in narrow and limited circumstances and do you believe that cop 21 would be considered a narrow and limited circumstances? i want to dig down on the legality issue. >> okay. thank you. thank you senator. on the first issue i think that framework convention with the framework convention, it was set for further negotiations and the process but did not, in fact,
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and should not be read as authorizing new agreements without having to go through the normal process. so my view that that convention does not authorize us or requires any agreement to go back to the senate, and in fact, in 1992 the senate as part of the process for approving the unfcc asked the bush administration whether a future property call to the treaty would require -- going back to the senate and bush administration says if it contains legally binding emissions, targets or timetables, then they would send that back to the senate. that's a promise from the executive branch that comes back to the senate. it's one of the reasons why i think an agreement with legally binding emissions timetable should be sent back for approval.
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>> right. >> on the second question, quickly, sole executive agreement is typically done in pretty narrow circumstances. like trade, tpp or something like that. a sole executive agreement where the president acts under his own authority. it's not so much unusual but relatively narrow. i don't think in the circumstances -- it's possible for us to say, well, i agree to every year report on what we are doing. that would be something that he could do as sole executive agreement. i don't think he could commit the united states to reduce emissions by certain amount by certain year in sole executive agreement. he would either have to get congress to approve through that new legislation or the best way to go to do is go back to senate for approval as treaty. >> thank you. mr. cass, you mentioned giant
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transfer of wealth. if the president is going to go with no money and fund appropriated by the congress, what kind of effect will that have in terms of future commitments that the united states is supposedly making if this congress won't appropriate any money, there's no guaranty that future congresses would at the same time. i'm certain the world community is counting on the united states to bring the money to the table. what comments would you have on that? >> well, i think probably everyone including negotiators from other countries understand that the president cannot appropriate money on his own. i think the larger concern is that faced with the choice of paris collapsing without an agreement or say, yes, i'll go find a way to get the money, u.s. negotiators will say they
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will find a way to get the money and say, look the world has come together on this agreement, you if you do not appropriate the money will be at fault. to preempt that i think that's very important that congress act first and say to the world, let's be clear, we will not appropriate that kind of money. don't come back with an agreement that requires it because that should not be the lynch-pin of the agreement. >> all right. thank you. senator harper. >> thanks so much. again, i thank you all of us for being here. some first time we have met you, new or old we're happy to spend time with you. a word on leadership, if i can. i -- i think that leadership is probably the most important ingreed ient of any organization i've ever been part of or lead.
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college, hospital, school, leadership is the most important thing. leadership is demonstrated in a variety of ways. i always say that those who look at that say what is the right thing, not the easy thing, what is the right thing to do is to provide leadership in this instance. leadership is staying out of step when everybody is marching to wrong tune including some with whom i serve. we lead by example. it's not do asia say but do as i do. it's important to actually set an example and encourage others to lead. leaders should be aspiritional. leaders of hope. i heard some testimony that was doom and gloom, frankly, some testimony that was uplifting. you can figure out where those came from.
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leaderships don't give up. leaders don't give up. we don't give up. i will just say you don't need a tutorial on leadership. it's the most important here and every place i worked and served. i wanted to talk about acid ring. 20-30 years we had problems with acid rain. we could never afford. we have this idea, cap and trade. we are going to try to reduce sulfur oxide emissions. you can't do that. it'll kill the economy. guess what, as i recall, finally putting in place implementing the plan that he proposed, we achiewfed our goals in half of the time and one-third the cost. imagine that. we can export all over the
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world. i remember sitting here in this room about ten years ago and we had testimony on mercury reductions. and my recollection is we had some, oh, we can never do that, it would cripple the economy. that's impossible. we had one witness right where you are sitting today, we can do this. we are talking about 80% reductions in the mercury emissions. in fact, we can do better than that. guess what, we did. we didn't do 80% reduction, we did 90%. if we are smart about it, all the coal plants you are talking about in china, they can actually have the kind of technology that we've put in or prepared to put in new coal fire plants out here. i'm going to ask lisa to take a
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minute and comment, give us on comment on one of the things we heard from the first three witness that is you think needs to be rebutted or addressed. would you do that, please? >> microphone. >> yes, thank you. i think on indc topic -- >> stands for. >> commitments that other nations have brought forward. whether -- the council in our experience in discussing with other countries and what's expected, we did not expect that those would be legally binding commitments. there maybe other aspects that have more legal force and as we all know the topic is one that's not yet been resolved but just the fact that that scope and scale of countries have come forward with greenhouse gas, mitigation and adaptation plans and any shape or form is a major breakthrough and as companies we see that as an important market signal and we can respond to that, we can look at the experiences in the u.s. where states and local governments and
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the federal government have made policy frameworks that signal and very similar about control technologies or mercury. we have investment capital to bring to the table. when we see 160 countries, we will step up and work with them through public private partnership and through investment and help them reach their goals. we see business opportunities for u.s. companies and we see jobs in the united states. >> thank you so much. thank you, madame chair. >> thank you. >> thank you, madame chair. i want to give everybody an opportunity to comment on one particular part of this and the part that i'm concerned with is any time we have a leader who steps forward and says we want to make changes in the united states this is the case of where you have to bring congress with
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you, and it seems as though everybody works out better if you have a bipartisan to get something done. what i'm concerned about is there's been discrepancy among panelists as to what occurred in 1992 with the unfcc on climate change. i'm just curious. for each of you if you could give us your brief thought process. did that particular framework as agreed to by the senate by voice vote, did that provide the opportunity for the president today to step in and to have a binding agreement for this country to reduce levels with regard to climate change issues. i know that there was specific language placed within the provisions of the ratification agreement as put forth by the
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senate of foreign relations when it was presented to the senate in 1992. but i would like your thoughts if we could agree or disagree as to how it would be interpreted today and if we could, i will just go down the line and simply ask each one of the members here if you would give me your thoughts if you could care to. >> yeah, as i said, it's pretty clear from the approval of the senate they were worried about, when they approved it that they would be authorization for a new agreement, which didn't come back to them. i would read it as requiring -- a promise by the president to come back if i have legally binding emissions reduction target and timetables. i don't know that there are that many people that disagree with that. that was sort of an understanding when the senate approved the unfcc. >> i would agree with professor ku that certainly anything legally binding with respect to emission targets should have to
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be approved by congress or the senate. >> i would agree with that as well. i just remind everywhere where the pot call had timetables and the expectation that that would have to go to the senate for advice an consent. >> on the original unf, and in the present instant, they've stated as being that they are seeking agreement that's consistent with existing u.s. law and also one that does not have legally binding provisions having to do with mitigation obligations, emissions reduction. so i think that sets in a critical way the framework of what's happening and the current negotiations along with the fact that in fact, all countries are stepping up to put their mitigation plans as well as
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adaptations plans on the table. >> does that mean that they would have to for legally binding changes or limitations that you believe that would have to come back to the senate for ratification? >> i couldn't presume to know exactly what the legal outcome of the agreement would be and what implications but however it has looked at the mitigation provisions in particular and that those should be nonlegally binding. and in that instance, i think that assuming that the agreement is consistent with existing u.s. law, i think the law -- and i think professor ku would agree with this, the law would suggest that the administration, the president can turn into agreement under those
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circumstances. >> ms. jacobson. >> thank you. i think it was a catalyst for significant policies that aimed to address climate change, greenhouse emissions and adaptation. it will depend on the agreement in paris. no matter what, congressional engagement is a positive and constructive part of our country, thinking about how it's going to manage energy and climate change concerns. our organization urges and have been every single year from congress both members, senators and staff that come to negotiations and also we look forward to engagement with congress in the present time as well as after paris to assess what's been agreed to and provide functions that it feels necessary. so we welcome that. thank you.
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one real quick question. paris agreement is definitely not going to be a treaty responding to criticism from european counterparts. our position has not changed, the u.s. is pressing for an agreement that contains provisions both legally binding and nonlegally binding while the exact legal form of 21 agreement remains unclear. do you believe that there's a role in the senate in assessing policies that stand to have broad-reaching economic and broad economic consequences? ..
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we see growing damage from playing beatles because the winters are warmer. we see extensive increases in forest fires. this season has gone far, destroying natural resources. we have huge loss of snowpack in the cascades affecting not only our streams making them more and smaller. affecting our agriculture with an extensive three worst ever droughts in a period of 15 years
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in the klamath basin. even the oyster industries having trouble because the ocean is 30% more acidic than before the industrial revolution. there's no great mystery, an executive agreement under a sort of the ratified treaty, under authority of current u.s. domestic law with non-biking -- binding response must report on progress. we can play with this extensively and try to divert attention from the core issue but let's not. let's address the core issue. let's look at the fact that there are enormous economic consequences. global warming is a huge assault on our world resources, huge devastation are agriculture, to our fishing and to our farming. and so this is something that the u.s. must exert leadership on and bringing together the nations of the world to be able to put forward their vision of how we can collectively take
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this one is an important act of the collective international community. it has been said we are the first generation to be feeling the impacts of global warming, and the last generation that can do something about it because of the fact that is so much harder as the momentum builds in the warming feedback loops. so we have a moral obligation to act. and certainly many of the major corporations that make up the user chamber of commerce are coming forward on their own to set this is an important objective, that they are deeply committed to making change and to help their voice will start to be heard in key forum's around the world and take us forward. i just want to note that in the conversation it is often said, well, we really need of developing nations participate.
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now we have nations participate. it's been a certain i believe mr. ku, or mr. castro in your testimony, saying china is not doing very much. china has pledged in the next 15 years to deploy as much renewable electricity a solve the -- that's a massive, massive deployment in a very short in a decade and a half. and represent an extraordinary change in their disposition in their sense of responsibility. i would also like to note that the senate appropriations committee did act. they acted on an amendment, amendment that was put forward and had bipartisan support to say that the united states should provide funds to the green climate fund, but this is certainly part of the equation. because developing nations around the world could say we are not going to act until the
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per person footprint of the united states is equal to our footprint, which is much, much smaller. they could say that but if they do our planet is doomed. and so they have courageously come forward and said we understand that this is something that has to of every nation involved, but you know what, we haven't produced much carbon and the carbon of the developed nations to produce is having a big impact on us so can you help us out a little bit to address these issues? that is a reasonable proposition to perform. so i commend the u.s. senate appropriations committee for having voted in full committee to provide some assistance in that regard. i want to just invite david to ask, to address whether, whether we can wait another 30 or 40 or 50 years to take action and
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expect not have catastrophic consequences? >> thank you for the question. not acting increases the cost of action. the longer that we delay enacting would increase the cost of action because we will have infrastructure lockean and other dynamics that will make it increasingly difficult to, in fact, shift to low carbon economies. we do have the opportunity and to think we, in fact, are on the trajectory athletes and others have said, we are on the trajectory of moving very rapidly toward the low carbon economy. the price of solar panels has fallen 75% in the last five years -- >> and we create hundreds of thousands of jobs into the? >> to our 100,000 jobs in texas alone related -- >> thank you. my time has expired but i want to introduce sam adams on
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climate change vitamins that as mayor of portland to take the city forward in this regard. >> thank you. senator sessions. >> thank you. this is an invaluable hearing. i think it's clear the president has the power to unilaterally bind the united states in these kind of agreements. there is bipartisan agreement in support, and we've made a lot of progress together on things like reducing pollution which often means improving coal use. we've made progress on automobile mileage. we put strict requirements on that and so far the automobile industry has done that. we haven't made the progress we should have made on nuclear power, in my opinion. pass of the greatest potential overtime. so we got electric cars and other ideas that could become reality. solar panels are getting more competitive and you can play a larger role in the time to come.
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but the american people are not sold on this, and neither am i picky i do we have to spend billions come even children's of dollars on co2 as a result of a concern of global warming is what's not being assault effectively, is not being accepted by the american people. made i will show a couple of charts in a second -- maybe i will show a couple of charts and a second, so this is a polling data, gallup poll earlier in the year, in march, shows 18 issues and a lesson on the minds of the american people as an important issue was climate change. and i think the data -- that's okay. the data shows were not seeing the kind of increases in temperatures that were projected. if you take the objective
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satellite data compared to the red line here, which is the average of the computer, 32 computer models, over 100 runs of those models, shows the temperature would increase at a rather dramatic rate. i thought a number of years ago we may actually be seen that but the blue dots in the light green dots represent the climate temperatures actual occurring according to satellite and balloon data. and so -- thank you. so in essence i'm just saying that the projections, disaster are not coming true. and doctor gilkey testified here from the university of colorado, or colorado state in which he said we are not seeing more hurricanes, not seeing more tornadoes. when i see more droughts. we are not seeing more floods. that's part of the background of workout.
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mr. yuli the green climate fund proposal and copenhagen commitment is a commitment of developing countries to provide $100 billion a year like 2020, to address the needs of developing countries. do you know what the united states share of that likely would be? has that been discussed? >> i don't think it's been discussed. the administration has proposed $3 billion amount that would go to the clinton -- >> but -- >> that's pretty 2020. >> we pay about 25% of the u.n. >> right. when you take a look at the countries that are responsible for providing funds to the green climate fund the countries are in annex two, a small subset of developed countries. the u.s. accounts for about 45% of the emissions from those countries. in reality we could be on the
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hook for about $45 billion. >> forty-five? >> yes. >> annually speak with annually. just a starting point, group of developindevelopin g countries have said that should rise up to 600 billion. the chinese city should be 1% of the gdp of developing countries, which we become the u.s. share would be about $170 billion spent we are pushing on 18 trillion gdp so 1% of that is $180 billion a year? >> that's right. it's a large amount of money even by washington standards. >> i would agree. and african group is insisting on ramping up the funding to 600 billion a year by 2030? >> that's right. >> well, my time is about up so i think we made the concern pretty clear here.
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yes, let's do the things that make sense. let's look for the efficiencies and anti-pollutants, which i don't consider co2 to be a pollutant. plans the need to grow, and i think if we work on that, madam chair, in a bipartisan way, we will also get reduction in co2 and also get reduction in pollutants and will benefit but to impose these kind of costs on the economy when i think there's no realistic expectation, and other countries that signed it will meet the requirements is not wise. >> senator markey. >> thank you, madam chair very much. the world is going to gather in paris in two weeks, and the central objective is to deal with the dangers human interferes with the climate system and countries around the world becoming in order to make their commitments 160 countries
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that actually are responsible for 90% of global carbon pollution have already made climate pledges in advance of the paris talks. and we are positioned to every successful outcome from this huge international meeting. and i believe that the united states can meet our goals. president obama has made them at different times before this huge summer. that's because i feel like understands are going to 54-foot five miles per gallon, the largest in reduction in greenhouse gas is in history of any country. that's still on the books. the presidents clean power plan's will dramatically reduce emissions from that sector as well. we have energy efficiency standards and we have massive
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deployment of wind and solar all across our country that is unleashing business opportunity. so i guess i go to you first, mr. waskow. do you agree the paris agreement includes meaningful emissions reduction pledges for all the countries including developing countries, in your opinion? >> thank you. as i mentioned there are more than 160 countries, 119 other developing countries that are put forward their plans. we're seeing significant actions in many of them. i would just note for example, in the case of india, that their domestic plans are to increase renewable energy to 175 gigawatts total by 2022, and 100 gigawatts of that would be and solar energy, and that's more than half the court global installed speed that's 170,000 that once of renewable electricity. that is incredible.
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china is making a comparable kind of commitment, even larger in terms of its people an and by the year 2030. giunta states that an agreement reached in paris will include procedures for reporting monitoring and verifying those pledges? >> the underlying u.n. framework convention, in fact has provisions, for countries to provide information about the emissions, report on their inventories. this agreement will build on that. we already have progress forward in the copenhagen and cancun agreements about increasing the degree of transparency. this agreement i think we'll increase that to an even greater degree and have convergence between developed and developing countries in terms of requirements. >> as america's leadership been the key to bring all the other countries to the table? the fact we've made this commitment through despite 26 or 20% by 2025 in the forcing
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mechanism to assess to china and india and other countries you must do something? >> i think our actions have been noted around the world. i think that when one goes to the negotiation, one has to since the country see what are doing. one of the underpinnings of this agreement is the work the united states has done with china in particular to move forward. >> i think you're right. honestly you can't preach from a barstool. we had to put up our commitments and that's what the problem was back in kyoto. we were not putting up what we're going to be doing. here we have got that, and we had a responsible country all around the world. and in the business community i think they're looking forward to this, are they not? ms. jacobson, so they can get a signal that they can rely upon that there is going to be an investment atmosphere that's going to unleash hundreds of
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billions countries of dollars into this renewable energy sector? >> very much. and energy efficiency and other clean generation options. what the business community needs is a clear sustained a market signal to drive investment. right now we're seeing investment sitting on the sidelines because there's not enough clarity. the united states made tremendous progress in providing clarity over the last soviet entrance of its domestic policy agenda and the energy sector. sector. we need to see the inner countries, and would lead the paris discussion and the outputs from the conference are going to great a stronger investment signal and other countries spend what would immediately extend the wind and solar tax breaks for 15 years in this country in terms of the climate -- >> right can we sing just look at the production tax credit experience in the last five or six years you can see when we had a sustained investment policy for the itc. we saw investment and deployment increased dramatically.
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we did have a clarity and other tax provisions for clean energy things dropped off. so it's a very clear spotlight of what the power of policy, certainly can provide the investment in this community. spiff will have 300,000 jobs in wind and solar by the end of next year. so you can see this is a growth trajectory that if we kept these taxes that's on the books, taking powerpoint and renewable, and the fuel economy standards we would revolutionize our own country but give the leadership to the rest of the world and be able to export these technologies widely around the rest of the world. i thank you all for your help educate and thank you, madam chair. >> it's my understanding we've had a vote that has been called. does anybody -- just -- one of want to do step away from the chair of senator boozman questions. make my vote quickly and then get back so we can keep continuing with the hearing. thank you.
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>> mr. you'll come as you and i was revealed earlier this month that china's coal consumption is a 70% higher than was previously reported. this confirms what many of us have been saying, we can't trust china to keep track of carbon emissions and play by the rules. i said many times that one of my major concerns is when we impose this expensive tormented to enforce the price of electricity to necessarily skyrocket. edges forces are manufacturers
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to close at the competitors in china will grow and be made even more into the atmosphere. is china the only country that has problems keeping up with its own co2 and ghg emissions of? >> no, it's not. when you take a look at the era that chinese make up what i by rounding error. this is a huge error. so what is going on in china is going on and a lot of other countries in the world that you don't have a handle on how much pre-teen greenhouse gas emissions there anything. >> if china can accurately account for its emissions, should we expect them to actually deliver on setting up a complex and sophisticated national emissions trading system? >> i don't know auto syndicate event. part of the emission trading system is the idea of trust, that when you purchase a ton of co2 emissions, or co2
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allowances, that it actually is worth, represents a ton of co2 emissions. and right now we don't have the confidence that i'm not so sure in the next year or so when the chinese expect to roll out their admission trading suit you, i'm not sure that can be distilled in such a short period of time. >> thank you. mr. cass, you highlight in your testimony that the negotiations will focus little on greenhouse gas emissions and almost entirely on climate finance. specifically on motivating developed countries like the u.s. to offer more than $100 billion per year starting in 202030 green climate slush fund. of course, thank the congress is not going to provide that money. but for those countries that might put a few dollars into this fund, is there any indication of how these funds would be used?
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>> thank you, senator. one of the open questions right now is exactly that, which is what does this funding look like? the green climate fund actually just announced its first set of grants and it was sort of hodgepodge of small dollar grants to build resilient infrastructure, potentially some investment in the direction of clean energy, but they're frankly at this point is so clear guidance on how the money would be spent. i think most importantly we know from our experience with foreign development aid to send large amounts of money to developing countries, even to say build a school, is enormously challenging and rarely produces the desired results. sending that money to build a revolutionary electricity grid where none has existed i think is doubtful to work very well. >> no, that was my next question. we are really talking countries that would have trouble with governance, lots of corruption, you know, mining not putting to
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good use. so again i guess your testament is that that would be very, very difficult? >> we take for granted as we develop green infrastructure and renewable energy in the united states that we have all the existing infrastructure to build off of andover adding a few percentage points to an enormous baseload of reliable energy and they were trying to do that in the developing world has no such baseline. this is exactly the developing world does want to go in that direction because it's not the right way to develop. >> what level of oversight would be assigned to the global fund? is there any oversight in place? >> there is an elaborate you in style structure of oversight over the green climate fund with the boards and committees and guidelines. in practice have the money comes and goes i think will likely look more like what we've seen from other u.s. efforts in what
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we're used to domestically. >> thank you. senator corker. spent thank you very much, mr. chairman. declared as a crisis. unclouded in your anybody sort of in 90 we don't have a climate problem, and the data, facts speak for themselves. scientists have reported global carbon dioxide concentrations have exceeded perhaps probably the 400 parts per million russia. carbon dioxide levels are now substantially higher than at any point in the last 800,000 years. global temperatures of the exceeded about one degree celsius above the preindustrial age with 2014 being the warmest year on record. these are facts, 2015 actually is on pace to be even warmer than 2014. this is something that is not just heralded by the scientists around the globe, but also
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important global organizations. the world bank announced that the two currently projected sea level rise and an uptick in extreme weather, i'm a change could force an additional 100 million people on the planet earth into poverty by 2030. in the face of global crises it seems that i here in washington over and over again that america must lead. indeed as we see with the war on terror people calling again and again for american leadership. clearly this global crisis is another case where we must lead. america has led to the decades in generations past from the space race which has yielded billions and billions of dollars in economic benefits to the united states, to even important global issues like mapping the human genome. so in the face of this need for american leadership in the face of these facts about a global crisis, it is important to me that you are actually things that parents can do and will do
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-- paris -- if not the least of which is increasing transparency and greater levels of accountability our nation's as well as corporations. critical to me come i mentioned in the space race, this understanding that leadership has its benefits and this crisis has its costs. the u.s. historically provide leadership to solve mobile crises is something i'm proud of and this is indication where we must rise again. and to exercise leadership the united states economy can benefit and it could benefit in astonishing ways with trillions of dollars of new investment, increase jobs, and most important as i am sitting on the coast of new jersey, we can avoid the social costs. a recent nyu report finds that a global agreement to limit temperature increases to two degrees celsius will provide $10 trillion indirect benefits to the united states.
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both local communities in new jersey from our fisheries to the storms and the weather changes, but the opportunity to the upside for this leadership is profound. so i'd like to ask questions first to mr. waskow, in your opening statement you mentioned some of the potential economic benefits. this is something often not talk about. people keep type of the cost, the cost, the cost but the upside is extraordinary. if you could elaborate about what our country, with the united states of america could see when it comes to economic benefits, job benefits reducing carbon emissions. >> sure. the benefits are quite extraordinary, as i mentioned the epa has estimated that benefits of the clean power plan themselves from health benefits and other are 32-$54 billion by
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2030. that is substantial in a working group in addition to that, he actions that we can take such as in energy efficiency provide economic benefits. the evidence is that for every 1 dollar invested in energy efficiency you get at least two back. the appliance efficiency measures that the administration has put in place since 2009 alone would bring consumers $450 billion in benefits by 2030. >> i appreciate that. someone who i do run a city i saw a couple bottom line when it came to dealing with energy efficiency and try to do with global issues. we are not onl going to reduce r expenditures by the environmental retrofits a we were to lower our carbon footprint but we create jobs for our community they can to do with the crisis in places like epidemic asthma rates. ms. jacobson, similar question for you is can you describe some of the potential economic
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opportunities for the united states that would result from strong international agreement in paris? you have 30 seconds to as the ferocious chairman here, i want his desk aside. >> energy productivity, look at what the productivity gains our economy has achieved as we also reduce our greenhouse gas gas emissions that show to produce emissions, cat energy waste, create jobs and you can improve the competitiveness of the us economy at the same time. these things make economic sen sense. >> thank you very much. mr. chairman, i would like to note i finished before my time expired. >> senator wicker. >> you surely did. let me just make a statement because we do have a vote and many other things to get do. i will not have a chance to do a question. i want to put in the record at this point, mr. chairman, a peer-reviewed article from the
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copenhagen consensus center entitled impact of current climate proposals. caught up with that -- >> without objection spill also would like to put into the record a press release issued by the copenhagen consensus with regard to that peer-reviewed study. >> again without objection. >> let me just say this. we have not always seen eye to eye on the causes of climate change, but he has i think raised a very important peer-reviewed study. of course, i look on the internet and to see the first thing that happens when you challenge the status quo is that there is a chorus of people saying that the data is wrong and faulty and should be disregarded. but here's what doctor lombard
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tells us, about the pair's promises -- paris -- he basically says if paris accomplishes everything they want to india to use their own projections, if we measure the impact of every nation fulfilling a promise by the year 2030, the total temperature reduction will be 0.048 degrees celsius. in other words, by the end of the century if everything they say is correct we will have accomplished a change in degrees celsius of less than five hundreds of one degree celsius. my friend from new jersey may or may not be correct about the problem. but the question is, do we spend all this money and overcome all
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of these other areas, what are they going to get for it? in addressing this problem. this peer-reviewed study says you get less than five hundreds of a degree by the end of the century. the united kingdom is diverting $8.9 billion from its overseas budget, going to turn over to climate change. we are going to divert almost $9 billion get five-tenths of a degree celsius? i think the people of the world who enter public opinion polls are correct when asked were actually to climate change ranks out of 16 categories, a ranking dead last. i think the people that are most disadvantaged in this world would rather have us use money
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to improve education, to increase electricity availability, to fight malaria, malnourishment claims at least one point for million children's lives are year -- 1.4 million -- yet we are taking money that could be used for malnourishment to putting it on something that is going to give us less than five hundredths of a degree, 1.2 billion people live in extreme poverty. did you by the united nations could do with the money that we're going to put, if it is $100 billion or whatever, think what we could do to help people in poverty, to help children who are dying, dying from malnutrition, 2.6 billion human beings on this planet lack clean drinking water and sanitation. we could prevent 300,000 deaths
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a year if we took this money and put it on malaria. so i just say, i hope this congress, i hope his senate will act with caution to a healthy representatives of the american people act with caution when they go to paris. and hope whatever is done i hope we make it clear, the word should go up from this hearing and from this capital that whatever is agreed to by the people representing the united states of america in paris should come back to this congress for debate in for approval or disapproval by the congress. thank you, madam chair. >> thank you. senator gillibrand. >> ms. jacobson, in your testimony road the u.s. assist me is increasing concern to climate change impact in its energy and corporate synergies and companies are pledging to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and and limiting of the climate change initiatives. can you discuss some examples of how companies are embracing the move to lower our emissions and
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promote greater sustainability? >> thank you for the opportunity to speak to this. several business council for sustainable energy members may pledges this fall related to greenhouse gas mitigation and other compatible sustainable energy initiative. these include alpine, ingersoll-rand, johnson controls, insulated panels, pg&e, qualcomm and snyder electric. this really shows them plus their peers in the recent announcement as was mentioned by david there were over 80 companies that came together representing i believe 3 trillion in investments and they provide hundreds of thousands of jobs in this country and offer their technologies, products and services in a competitive come and effectively globally.
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they see this as a mainstream business issue. the range of tools they use very but they may be things like energy management practices, setting targets for reducing the energy used in working through their supply chains, some even put carbon pricing into the investment decisions. they are doing this because they get economic benefit from doing so. the last decade through tools like the carbon disclosure project and other initiatives track have businesses have really evolved in the way they responded to the call from their customers and from shareholders to consider sustainability initiatives introduced greenhouse gas emissions. we also know are seeing companies to get to the next level and look at what science and policy makers are doing in terms of their own trajectories for greenhouse gas emissions and matching them. it's a mainstream issue and company to respond in different ways but it didn't the central
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pieces companies are responding. >> can you please describe the importance of reaching an international agreement in paris to the business community that you work with? what effect do you think the global commitment to reduce greenhouse gas live on the ability of u.s. companies have already embraced sustainability to compete internationally? >> the second question first. the u.s. has a path forward. acid at the state level, local policy level and we have at the federal level through the investments we are making in energy research development and deployment, through things like the clean power plan. we have a roadmap. other countries where we compete for customers and to invest need to be on a similar roadmap. and what the international climate change agreement does is it brings to light emit provides transparency are not on what we do but what other governments are doing. and so that sends a strong
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signal to investors of where to place their capital. and energy sector these are long lived investment, decades long investments. right now with a lack of clarity in many parts of the world capital is sitting on the sideline and that's not good for u.s. firms and it's not providing the job creation opportunities that u.s. firms would like to provide here at home. >> thank you. mr. waskow, you testified there were substantial dividends. could you elaborate on the leadership of spurred action by other countries and what changes have we seen from the lead up to the copenhagen meeting in 2010? >> thank you. the leadership that the united states is a showing has really had ramifications ripple in outward i think. the underpinnings of the leadership really has been the agreement that the united states has entered into all arranged with china. and beginning a year ago with
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the joint announcement by the two countries where each put forward what it's climate plans for the coming decade and in china's case for the coming decade will be. i believe lay the groundwork understand that action was going to be international in scope. when the two major emitters, the two largest came forward in that way, and we saw coming out of that i think was, in fact, a ripple effect that turned into a wave of action internationally. we have now seen all major emitters as part of that 160 plus countries with national climate plans come forward with their plans. we seem actions come as imagine the indian renewables target that have come forward to india has gone beyond those 2022 numbers to emit it would have 40% of its energy supply from nonfossil sources by 2030. we've seen this happen in any number of countries. this is very different from the copenhagen situation.
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we've seen a doubling of countries that are put forward plans for greenhouse gas emissions targets and then as opposed to general actions. and we are seeing a plethora of renewable energy plans as well. we have analyzed the national climate plan to look at renewable energy in particular. just the eight largest emitters have put plans in place for more than 8000 terawatt hours of renewable energy by 2030. this is about 20% more than what they would've done under business as usual. we are seeing something that's really remarkable. >> thank you. if we could hold her for just a minute or two, senator whitehouse is on his way back. we will just kind of at least i guess would be skittish madam chair? rather than jessica, could i be recognized?
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>> yes spent yogi berra, who mentioned yogi berra? déjà vu all over again. yogi berra was in the docket with the yankees before the game and one of his teammates came in and said do you the news? a jew has been elected mayor of dublin. you'll be thought about and said only in america. only in america. another yogi favorite was yogi once said when you come to the fork in the road, take it. take it. i think we are at the fork in the road and my hope is that we will take you i've learned a few things in preparing for this evening. one of those is how many of these other executive privilege not approved by congress have there been? i had no idea. it turns out there's been something like 18,000 since 1789
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compared to about 1000 treaties. one was the yalta agreement that ended world war ii in 1945. another was the paris peace accords that ended the war in vietnam in which i served. another was the montréal substance of protocol. more recently -- global agreement to protect humans from mercury pollution all of those were not treaties. they were essentially executive agreements so i will use back my time and thank you. >> senator whitehouse. >> thank you, chairman. may i first ask unanimous consent to enter into the record the key vote over from the chamber of commerce claim to represent adequate the edges of more than 3 million businesses of all sizes, sectors and regions threatening to quote score the vote yesterday to
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destroy the president's clean power plan? >> without objection. >> thank you, madam chair. mmay also ask unanimous consent to end into the record a letter signed by more than 360 companies including general mills, nestlé u.s.a., staples, adidas, gap, levi's, schneider electric, always glad of schneider electric evolves, sent to the nation's governors expressing strong support for intimidation of the epa's carbon pollution standards for existing power plants. >> without objection. >> thank you, madam chair. may i also ask unanimous consent to enter the white house, keywords, american business act on climate pledged into the record. this is 81 companies with operations in 50 states to vote over 9 million, represent more than $3 million in annual revenue and with a combined market cap of over $5 trillion
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with signatories include alcoa, best buy, coca-cola, google, mcdonald's, pepsi, wal-mart and walt disney? >> without objection. >> thank you. and, finally, let me ask unanimous consent to enter into the record of financial statement from bank of america, city, goldman sachs, jpmorgan chase, morgan stanley and wells fargo calling for a strong global agreement? >> without objection. >> i don't have it with me but i will get it before the record of veering closer to i would also ask unanimous consent that an advertiser in support of climate action put into the financial times by unilever, by general mills, by mars, by nestlé, by ben and jerry's, and by kellogg's -- there it is -- be added to the record? >> without objection. >> i would like to ask a question for the record of the chamber of commerce, which is
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present here in the form of drinking. the question for the record is how do the chamber's relentless -- represent the views of the companies on these letters who are chamber members i think a practical but that doesn't like to make that a question for the record. >> let me also asked for the record an article speed that means you're wanting a written response from clinton, greg? >> yes. and/or the chamber if they want to respond to some other person. i would also like to put into the record a recent story called the coke atm which reports biggest chamber of commerce received $2 million from freedom partners which is a koch back to
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operation. and also reflect for the record here that the center for democracy reports that from 2001-2012 the manhattan institute received over $2.1 million foundations associated with the koch brothers including the charles g. coke foundation and the land foundation and the union of concerned scientists report suspected the manhattan institute received $800,000 go for% by thousand of which has come in since 2007 from exxon mobil. thank you. i think the point i'm trying to make is that the so-called voices of the business community that we're seeing here are, in fact, the voice of the fossil fuel industry, specifically exxon mobil, the coal industry, big oil, the koch brothers and that the bulk of the broader
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american corporate community is actively supporting taking action on climate, setting aside the parts of the american economy that are actual involved in a clean energy economy. these are kind of just neutral american businesses as opposed to companies like i think it is called mid-america by which is providing so much wind power in iowa right now and other big ventures are investing heavily in creating jobs developing technology and doing good things for the american economy. i want to make sure that the record of this proceeding reflected both the position of the broader american corporate community and also the funding behind two other gentlemen who are here today. thank you, madam chair. >> well, i think we've reached the end of our hearing. i want to thank all of you for participating that i think we've got some good discussion and with that -- >> madam chair? >> yes. >> you and i are both from west
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virginia. i was born long before you were but when i think about this issue i think about the golden rule, how to apply the golden rule so editors everybody. my state will face of global sealevel rise. it will do is individually if we don't do something about it. my native state west virginia one of the top 5% cold states in the country. my dad worked for a coal miner a little bit when i was out of school. i've been a longtime supporter of clean coal technology. i'm sure you have as well. we spent about $20 billion on clean coal technology i think in the last 20 years. we have a plant up and running now down in southwest texas producing, up and running next year produce about two and 50 megawatts of energy. we have some other plans would work is being done on those. it's taken a long time, a lot of money but i'm encouraged we are starting to make progress. when i applied the golden rule to those five coal producing
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states, and others, what's the very thing to do within? i think part of the very thing to do is to continue to invest in clean coal technology and look for the innovation. all those coal plants that are being built in china and other places to use this technology. that could be a pretty good job for all of us. >> i would agree and i will in the form of letting the panel know that senator barrasso is on his way. so the same courtesy we extended to senator whitehouse we will extend him and wait a little bit longer or him to be able to make questions. and i do believe innovation, but i do believe that when we talk about the human price and the human consequences of what's going on in terms of climate change, you have to look about what's going on in states like mine right now, the human consequences of highest unemployment comp 4% to interstate budget, the first
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time we've ever had to cut education and many, many years by 1%. more people in poverty, a sense of gloom and doom and depression diagnosing and our state and we've got, we've had a lot of highs and lows in our state. as you know we've had experience with kind of being, feeling that our economics can move forward. it's indescribable where i'm living right now. so i see the human consequence of moving forward without the innovation, without longer timelines, without more comments and i will make devastated. i'm going to ask a quick question because you brought up the sole executive agreements that had been made i think you said, how many over the past -- 800? >> actually taking -- 18,000. >> 18,000. >> executive agreement spent my question is, transport if this becomes a cell executive agreement -- mr. ku, by this
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president is leaving office, for the next president coming in what kind of parameters, does that have any binding measures for the next president asked for the next president come in and just totally, totally undo what has been done in that cell executive agreement? >> thank senator. i think it's a cell executive edgar is a week kind of commitment that the transgenic. there's a lot of them but they're usually for very small things. things within the president inherent powers and so the supreme court said over things that historically congress has acquiesced in using executive chris will they court upholds such executive agreement. the president, if he makes executive agreement under cell authority he can withdraw. the difficult is speed that would mean -- >> that we been -- >> that was made under the sole
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authority of the previous agreement with the only difference is it the other countries feel like the previous president made a binding promise the fact that the present presit doesn't make them feel much better about it, there's a cost to it if cost to it if the cost to it if the next president withdraws even though it's legal the other countries to come upset and not happy. that's why it is the supreme court i think general scholars think that he is of it has to be used only where score the president has the authority of his long-standing precedent for use of a sole executive agreement in that circumstance. >> thank you. spill before we turn to senator barrasso mess and associate myself with about four marks of senator carper of the moment ago? i have to leave now but i would like to associate myself with his remarks. >> okay, thank you. senator barrasso. >> thank you, madam chairman. if there was one message i would like us into the international committee ahead of the national climate change conference is this, without senate approval
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there will be no money. secretary kerry says a treaty requiring senate approval will not emerge from the international climate talks. this is despite the fact the state department is pushing for parts of the agreement to be legally binding on the united states. on november 13 this day different state our position has not changed that the u.s. is pressing for an agreement that contains provisions both legally binding and non-legally binding. any agreement reached in paris beckoned into legally binding requirements on the american people must come to the senate for a vote. this is not only the right thing to do, it is what the constitution requires. winnowed united nations green climate fund was proposed during the 2009 conference of parties in copenhagen, denmark. the fund facilitates a giant wealth transfer of taxpayer dollars from the developed nations to developing nations to help them adapt to climate
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change. congress has never authorized funding the green climate fund. the united states and other developing nations have pledged approximately $10 billion for the initial capitalization of the fund with a goal of raising $100 billion annually. most people think that's a misprint but it is true, $100 billion annually is what you're talking about. on november 15 last year the british nation pledged $3 billion in u.s. taxpayer funds over the for your strategy 20 meetings in australia. administration's fiscal year 2016 budget request asked for 500 million for the fund. we cannot support providing taxpayer dollars to decide if congress does not get approval of an agreement. i want to make it clear to the administration as well as to foreign diplomats across the globe who are looking for use dollars which is the linchpin of this conference, without senate approval there will be no money.
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period. i and many of my colleagues will be sending the president a letter stating that very soon. we have circumvent a copy of a letter. now to the questions. its report in the "new york times," where is this, page is this, page one, you don't have to go very far, wednesday november 4, china is burning much more coal than it claimed. article states even for a country of china's size, the scale of the correction is a man's. a sharp upward revision and official figures mean that china has released much more carbon dioxide, almost a billion more tons a year, than previously estimated. a billion more tons h even estimate. the increase alone is greater than the whole german economy in its annually from fossil fuels. so how does this impact the chinese iadc submission, and should we be promising u.s. action based on a promise from
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china when they can't even accurately count or will not actually count the coal consumption? >> thank you, sir i think the chinese restatement is an important fact because in every article that actually quote china's climate adviser somewhat smugly noting this makes it easier for them to meet their target. china has never committed to a level that it's the nation's will peak that it is never committed throughout its emissions will decline after that. and so after having already put out its commitment noting, we are learning a lot more coal than we told you, they are, in fact, making it that much easier to meet a goal that the on track to meet anyway without actually making any changes to their policy. >> it sounds like the cost and concessions to be made by the u.s. in the agreement with china are much more real than what china is ever going to do an artist has to be done before 2025, and china continue to go to dick india 2030. >> that's correct.
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once those concerning about that in some respect is that we've heard so much industry about the importance of leadership and about this process we move forward with it requires what essentially called naming and shaming. the premise of getting action from the developing world is that we're going to call out those who do not emit to action and shame them into action. whether it was ever a good idea or not it is how we proceeded, and yet the talking points from the most vocal advocates of climate action are now china is doing a great job. >> and mr. eule if i could ask him if a sophisticated country like china cannot keep up with its emissions, what level of confidence do we have that other countries with fewer resources and capacity will be able to are willing to produce a reliable system for measuring, reporting and verifying emission reduction activities? >> in the chinese experience my guess is nothing new. there's a lot of developing
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countries that don't have a handle on how much greenhouse gas emissions there in bidding. it's an actual question and not sure this point measurement reporting verification can be set up so that we can with assurance guarantee that the emission cuts of the promise are actually going to be delivered spent a question for both of you if you could there was an opinion piece in "the wall street journal" by dr. lomborg noted that in the run up to the negotiations he said rich countries and government organizations are scrambling to join the fashionable ranks of climate aid, other donors to this effectively means telling the world worse off people suffering from tuberculosis, malaria, malnutrition that what they really need is a medicine, isn't mosquito nets or micronutrients, but a solar panel. are the ultimate effect of the negotiations make it harder, harder for countries to raise her own people out of abject poverty in the name of climate change?
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>> i think that's a concern at the senator wicker called attention to the fact that the uk under pressure to provide climate finance said was okay we will ship or other development aid into climate finance that i think the good news for people in developing countries is their own leaders are refusing to prioritize the emission cuts over economic growth. the bad news is that the developed world for the sake of getting a signed piece of paper made were your yet their own aid towards solar panels instead of drinking water. >> essentially what i was going to say, the simple fact is when you look at what developed countries are doing they've set their priorities, and thereby resort economic development, poverty eradication and energy access, not about addressing greenhouse gas emissions i think that's what it will be for the perceivable future. >> thank you. into madam chairman spent senator carper speak with a unanimous consent request to put iin the record a couple of years
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the general climate fund which appear to be around $3 billion instead of $45 billion quoted on. my friend, you miss this but we have a number of states come i was born in one that produce a lot of corporate as we can figure out to do with issue of climate change global warming we need him i gladly help the states that will be effected just as we try to help the states that in danger of being drowned? if we don't provide leadership the rest of the world, did not do much at all. if we do provide leadership we have a chance. thank you. >> thank you. thank you again to the panel and thank all those who attended. ..
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>> we'll have to wait and see, not that i'm aware of. >> do we know who is going to paris? >> i heard senator cardin had a group going but i really don't know. >> what about on the republican side? >> i don't know either. i think, senator inhofe has been the last two times i think but i don't know what his plans are. hasn't shared them with me.
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[inaudible] >> [inaudible] >> i don't see a scenario where the senate is going to approve in the omnibus bill any language that would open any door for any clean climate fund. >> regardless whether -- >> right. >> is that fund, aren't some of those fund already appropriate ing? >> that's what the administration said, that these fund, except for about 500 million are already there and -- the first tranche. >> my understanding we zero appropriated it. gave them nothing in the appropriations committee. and that's probably will be wrapped into the omnibus in the next two weeks. i don't know where they're going to come up with $3 billion without congress appropriating
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it so i don't know. we have to go, sorry. >> thanks. [inaudible conversations]. >> this morning the house judiciary subcommittee on immigration and border security hold as hearing on the syrian refugee crisis and the vetting of refugees seeking asylum in the u.s. we'll have live coverage starting at 9:00 a.m. eastern time on c-span3 and c-span.org.
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>> kissinger emerges as idealist, rarity of the harvard of 1950s. i think that made his contribution fundamentally distinct. made him stand out from the pack of people who thought you could solve the cold war with systems analysis or something of that sort. >> he is interviewed by carla robbins with the council on foreign relations. sunday night at 8:00, the former editor of the "al-quds" al-arabi. author of the digital caliphate, the rise of isis. rivalry with al qaeda. watch booktv all weekend, every weekend on c-span2. >> at the overseas security advisory council conference at the state department in
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washington, d.c. panelists discuss how to combat violent extremism and radicalization. this discussion is followed by remarks by secretary of state john kerry. this is an hour and 20 minutes. >> thank you, i'm so pleased to introduce the members of my panel. we have an excellent group from a variety of backgrounds. to my immediate left christina nemer. formerly with the state department. she worked extensively developing counterextremist programs. to her left is the islamic religious advisor to the u.k. ministry of defense. he has a long history advising, giving pastoral care within the u.k., british military. we're certainly pleased to have
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him. giving a little more international flavor to our panel. at the end we have humera kahn. working in the private sector, civil society capacity on early intervention, prevention, threat assessment and risk mitigation in the realm of countering violent extremism as well. i'm very pleased to have my colleagues here today to discuss the important issue of radicalization. so have prepared several questions for discussion by the panelists. we're going to start with a very basic question. so, a wealth of research, including that conducted by start indicates there is no single pathway to radicalization. people become radicalized in variety of ways. usually with some combination of push factors in their own personal life making them open to more radical ideas and behavior but also pull factors and recruitment factors drawing them in.
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i would like to ask each of the panelists to briefly discuss based on their experience and work what they see as the most important drivers of radicalization that government and civil society and private sector needs to be concerned about in the current environment, starting with christina, making our way down the line. >> thank you very much, aim i in. thank you all. pleasure to be here. when it comes to radicalization and what drives individuals, i think what amy said is spot on, there is no one path. there are a mixture of factors that play in. it could be external factors, government corruption, police brutality. feelings of morningnallization on personal level. a lot of individuals are searching for a sense of self-worth. i think that's a common feeling that all humans have, wanting to feel like they mean something and contributing something. and the role of identity i think
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plays into this. people want to identify with something that truly relates to them. they want want to be part of a p at the same time. social dynamics, group dynamics play a part here. if you look at the groups who committed atrocity, most recently the ones in paris and before that "charlie hebdo," a lot of attackers knew each other in some form or fashion. they were either familial relation, brothers or friends. you can't underestimate the power of your network. you feel marginalized but might have extreme thoughts by yourself, but often times when you start meeting other like-minded people and individuals you sensing more and more into your views. they become black and white, more black and white and more extreme and you as groups are moving towards a more polarized outlook. i'll leave it there. >> thank you very much. very grateful to be the token
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male on this panel. [laughter] and also the one that provides the u.k. flavor. i hope you like it. thank you very much for introducing that question which is an important question. that is a starting point of a lot of challenges we face today. like john brennan said, we are not comfortable with the new space is. the new space is stateless and doesn't have borders n that environment radicalization is stateless. radicalization has no borders and radicalization recognizes nobody else's space and authority. and so it is an important question that needs to be discussed. but at the same time, i agree with the previous speaker that
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there is no one single pathway. if i were to try and put my finger on something it is definitely the issue of identity which christina mentioned. and maybe talking from my perspective, u.k. perspective and radicalization that we're seeing happening there and it's the question of a sense of belonging. where do i belong? who am i? where am i going? what is my purpose? am i being treated fairly or not being treated fairly? are my people being treated fairly or not being treated fairly? it is the simple question that the path of radicalization starts at. one thing i've been saying to the u.k. ministry of defense keep it simple. we tend to have this idea of looking for something more deeper and darker when it isn't there. so let's try to keep an understanding where
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radicalization starts and why it starts and some of the questions i mentioned here, are in my opinion a starting point for radicalization. no doubt as the, as the individual goes further down the path of radicalization no doubt becomes very idealogically entrenched and what's really interesting when i look at the u.k. landscape is that not just idealogical extremists and radicals but when i look at far working class far right extremists in the u.k. i find those individuals are also asking the same questions, who am i, where do i belong? things are changing around me. am i being treated fairly? is justice being done? are these people a threat to me, are they not a threat to me? you find they're all asking the same questions and in order to find a solution to this we need to be able to address the questions, locally, regionally, nationally and internationally.
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so it, radicalization starts from social, emotional, psychological disenfranchisement and i explain this in three strands or three categories. the first one being that, when people approach, are a part of radicalization they're asking simple questions. the second approach where those who have become radicalized go out looking for these individuals. so you have a group where they have started this path of radicalization and if it is not stopped at that point it will get worse and who intervenes first will win. and so people go out like in the u.k., we have an individual who lives in a city called luten he goes out looking for these individuals and finds that gap and finds that space and intervenes and draws them in. once these individuals are drawn in, anything can be said to them
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which can increase and enhance the radicalization that is taking place. and where this radicalization cements all of sudden you can't talk to girls, you can't go to cinemas, you can't talk with people of other faiths. all of a sudden your world becomes smaller and smaller and smaller. you're meeting the same people, same type of people every single day in the lebanese coffee shop at the end of high street. that then leads on to the more extreme form. this was initially becoming more religious, this was becoming more idealogical, this was about becoming, you know, taking a kind of an arctic approach to life, all of sudden that become as very strong religious motive and, religion become as hook upon which people can hang their
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thoughts on. they believe to do something is their duty. when it gets into that realm of it being a religious duty, and anybody else in here who is religious and devout will know that we want to be devoted to our faith but when that devotion is twisted and manipulated for other means, then we get on some kind of a very dangerous ground. so thank you very much. >> good morning. i'd like to start off state department and csac and congratulations on your 30th anniversary. thank you very much for having me and everyone who is attending. i like to also start off with a disclaimer. i'm not a lawyer but i've been in d.c. very long so, i do not speak on behalf of any government, not the u.s. or
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otherwise. so with that said, let's start with just radicalization. radicalization in our country is not a crime. now violent extreme system a crime. in other countries radicalization in and of itself is a crime but when i am talking about radicalization i'm only going to be talking about radicalization that leads to violent extremism, because they're we're talking about potentially crossing criminal lines which are prosecutable unour laws. i'm, it has made my life easier that my panelists mentioned so many of the reasons already. again we agree, no one has been able to find a single profile, a single pathway. it doesn't exist. it is extremely contextualized and localized. we know where they are appearing, sense of identity, sense ever belonging is coming up in a lot of cases.
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what we also know is that when we now focusing a little bit more on isis, daesh, right? how people who are drawn into that space, one of the prime motivators which started for several years now has been helping the syrians. so that sense of actually we need to deal with injustice and get rid of injustice and oppression. it is actually a very strong part of the grievance narrative. those grievance narratives also have resonance in people's individual lives for what they made be experiencing locally for various reasons. when we talk about factors which might lead to radicalization, violent extremism, we talk about factors which increase the propensity towards violence. when you talk about countering violent extremism, we actually have to deal or address any and all of those drivers push and
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pull, which can reduce propensity of violence from the get-go. we also have to deal with the issue of ideology. one of the things we have to recognize is that ideology is rarely the starting point for most of the journeys. ideology shows up somewhere along the way, but almost never the starting point. and there is a lot of other issues which increase that vulnerability to, towards the indoctrinated. so when we talk about responding to it and issues of counternarratives, counternarratives will only work or are only designed for a particular intervention space but they're not -- they're not sufficient for dealing with the pure prevention space because there is a lot of other factors we have to deal with. this is by the way the need for public/private partnerships is huge because they're a part of the space which government can
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not and should not be touching. hopefully we'll get to some of those as we go along. >> that is precisely where we're heading next. so given what each of you have learned about radicalization process, violent extremism, can you each talk a little bit more about what is the space for countering violent extremism? what are the program possibilities? this is a relatively new space for many people. do we have a good sense of things that work versus things that perhaps create backlash or things that don't work at this point in time? and, are there gaps in our knowledge that need to be filled? this time i will let asim go first. >> that's a shame. i was going to try to steal some ideas from christina. what works, what doesn't work? i think what's really important
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is if you want to do prevention work in communities, what's really challenging is when it falls under the security banner. we need to try and take, prevention and intervention out of the security space so community can feel comfortable with it. i think the state must be involved. i think the government has to be involved. it has a responsibility to be involved, even though many people don't want it to be involved in this space, because we can't do it without the space. we need money from the government to be able to run some of these projections. -- projects. we definitely need to give communities the lead in this. people at the grassroots level can do prevention the best. we need to stop sometimes some of our politicians coming out and telling people how they should think and how they should
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feel and what they should do and what they shouldn't do. let communities take responsibility for this and begin to develop programs that will, that will help address some of these, some of these issues. the other thing i think we should bear in mind, we should have a countereffect in a sense es, sometimes we work with state or the government or the sector within the government that are dealing with prevention sometimes buy engaging with certain groups who have credibility within the community, by engaging with them we damage their credibility. we also need to be careful who we work with, how we work with them. we need to protect communities
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too. for example, with some of my work in afghanistan we used to engage with particular imams or particular mosques and what we didn't realize the second order effect of that engagement because the following day, that imam would be dead or the mosque would be blown up. and so how do we, how do we insure that we support these programs and interventions from a distance to insure these, these interventions are successful? and again, i go to the issue of keep it simple. we want to look sophisticated. we want to have pie charts. we want to have big power point presentations. keep it simple. reach out to the human aspect of the being, to be able to really reach out to these people. make it human. humanize the issue. one thing i always talk about is trying to put, trying to get people to meet victims of
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terrorism, of violent extremism. how can we get their word out into the society, into the community and say look, i have just lost my 3-year-old child or just just lost my wife or my son and this is how i feel. how can we get that message out to people? if you continue to be radicalized, even though you may not carry out acts of violent extremism someone might from, hearing what you're saying, might go away unsupervised and do something absolutely silly which divides our communities, shatters our communities and disunites our people. >> we approach programing from a particular -- we actually have our own framework that we use. so within any policy strategy landscape because that is the world you work in, we talk about
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the four sectors which have to be covered. there's prevention, which is barriers to entry. there center venges, if someone is started to be indoctrinated, how do you stop them before they commit a crime. prevention and intervention is protecting individual. if someone is mobilized to commit a crime you have to have interdiction. at that point it is more important that you protect society, than the individual concern, than the individual in intervention and second is possibility of reentry. we have many young people who are going into prison for short-term. they're going in for material support. if we actually do not deal with their ideas, why they're in prison or support them when they come back out and end up going back to environments that created them we just delayed the problem. we're doing a lot of advisory
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service and trying to push government to create the legal framework to allow this to happen. so that's the framework that we do our programing underneath. some of the things which are necessary to make any type of programing effective is going to be, it has to be local. we talk about the, youth are talking about national strategies and national policies, those are great but yet they don't translate into anything meaningful unless you don't develop a local strategy or implementation. anything that worked in cve, we take lessons from many other sectors with gang violence reduction, variety of other sectors, it is always about the local, what is happening at the local level and how do you make the local initiative succeed. so, actually, one of the perspectives we take, the way we do our programing is, because year based in the u.s., our programs are domestic.
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what we do internationally is training of trainers. what we can do or what we can teach others or help others with is actually developing the skills so they create their own programs. so when we work with youth and we work with imams or we work with womens group, that objective is, how do you create your own programs to help your own communities? because they know the problem. they know the factors which are involved and they also have innovative solutions. i will switch to the part everyone talks about narrative. we always talk about counternarratives and alternative narratives. the thank about narratives, there are three aspects to any thought of narrative, right? you have the message, you have the messenger and the medium. you actually have to take all three into account when you're building out the counternarrative space. even the language, counternarrative, if you go into the world where we're only responding to the recruiting
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material which has been put out by terrorists groups, we have already failed. if we use a counternarrative paradigm we have failed because we are now playing by their rules. what we talk about is actually establishing the met at that narrative. because you have to establish the norms. it is clear what language and what the recruiters are using that is the deviance and that is the thing already wrong by itself. so there is a need for alternative but there is a space where we need to have the metanarratives which establish our norms and our values. we have to establish those and pull people towards those from the get-go. it is not just about the language we use but actually has to reflect what is happening on the ground. it actually has to translate into better environments on the ground where people live. thank you.
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>> anytime you look at a problem and start proposing solutions to it i think the first natural or smart starting point would be to look at numbers or what is the scope of the problem. so in this context radicalization or recruitment is not happening en masse. it is not happening in mass numbers. so i think a common mistake is that cve programing, especially when it comes to counternarratives, they are distributed to a mass population and that doesn't work. going back to the individual factors playing it someone radicalizing and recruiting and being recruited. and in fact we know that recruitment often happens before radicalization ever does and using again, not to hate on the counternarratives but using as an example, so many counternarratives put emphasis
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on the ideology, right? trying to promote more moderate strands of islam when in fact again it is not reaching the grievances that these individuals holds. which are, might be perceived as sometimes they're real grievances. i think cve programing has to understand that and to acknowledge that, and not to dismiss the population that's working with, oh, their perceived grievances or a lot of times you hear people put them in a group, call them crazy. there are natural factors that may in here. and so huemra laid out involvement. we used that as well in the counterterrorism bureau and i appreciate that. a lot happens coming in to try to provide opportunities for individuals, whether it's thing
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as small as after-school program, entrepreneurship opportunities, ways for them to get involved civically. if for example, that political reasons they are abriefed. but then again limitations are identity. does that provide identity they can hold dear and give them a sense of purpose? this is not necessarily a role for government, again as my fellow panelists have pointed out. the messenger does matter. the u.s. government doesn't have the best track record and should not be promoting either certain strands of ideology or be seen as implementing certain types of programing. so, another issue here as well when it comes to governments attempting to promote cve programing it is reactive. an attack happens, everybody wants to know what are we doing to engage?
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how are we going to respond? radicalization is happening. we need to involve the youth but the problem is these are all short-term commitments. everybody has a very short attention span. governments do as well but they're also responding to their populace. at the end of the day these grievance, the drivers of recruitment and radicalization, the violence, they are long-term issues and they are not going to be solved overnight. i think another major step in putting forth viable cve options is the need for stakeholders to understand this has to be a long-term engagement and you're not going to see immediate results. that is something i know our u.s. congress needs to understand as well. that also means making stakeholders aware of the time frame necessary. i would like to also draw on one point that was made about victims, victims voices as a
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counternarrative. he is absolutely right. they're one of the most resonant stories you can put out there against terrorism and a lot of organizations like to put together psas on youth victims. from my time in government i see a lot of good videos that use victims and their stories but never any follow-through. those videos are not placed towards an at-risk population. that is something where the private sector needs to come in. once you do have viable counternarrative how do you insure it is getting to the right population. it is not just putting together a video and leaving at that. >> sure. >> i've been, i asked permission to add a few words, so thank you very much. i know there are faith-based organizations here in the audience and i would definitely
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urge people of different faiths to actually contribute, to prevention work. the whole basis of the prominent radicalization we're seeing now is about dividing communities. it is about building walls. more we can do in united fashion where it is in our own countries or international space and organizations that you run. there can be nothing more positive and nothing more powerful, then demonstration of unity among people of different faiths and different cultures. so don't feel, don't feel, not capable of being able to engage in this space. just standing side by side with them, another faith leader. someone with cup of tea, having a campaign in the u.k. was called a having a cup of tea.
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showing people of different faith and different cultures, having cup of tea. that wonderful image, wonderful image of different faiths and culture, having a cup of tea and having a chat was so powerful and resonated with the community. and what we also have to understand is we're in it together. one of the most powerful things i heard from an army general one day when speaking to an audience which is battling radicalization, is, is where we're here to help you. what i'm trying to say we're all in it together. let's not point fingers that you need to do more, where the victims or you're the victims and we need to do more. i think we need a partner, a triangle of partnership where we have communities which are prone to radicalization. those communities suffering from radicalization in a sense or victims of radicalization. even though you can't really
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define that because everyone suffers from radicalization and violent extremism in the state. this triangle of cooperation has to exist. once we get over that triangle of cooperation and triangle of partnership i think we can move forward. at the moment we're pointing fingers at each other it is the state's job. the state saying no, it is that community's job. the community saying, no the government is not doing more. stop pointing fingers at each other and get together, saying this is problem that is common between all of us and let's deal with it. the last thing i would say, doesn't matter which level we're working at, whether local, national, international, the key thing is, this issue is global. and, we have to equip our people who are at the prevention stage who are dealing with this issue on the front lines with ability to deal with global issues. i'm tired of people saying, this is a regional problem or this is
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affect this is only this part of the world and tries to, tries to categorize and divide the issue up into different segments. this is a global issue and we need to be equipped to deal with the global narratives which humera was talking about. we need to talk in a globalized world where we can communicate with each other instantaneously. we can not say this is u.k. issue or syrian issue or iraqi issue. we're dealing with a global phenomena we need to be equipped to deal with. >> thank you. so the talks in paris are certainly still on everyone's mind and fresh in our memories. could each of you respond a little bit as to what is both the power of those attacks as
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far as driving further radicalization or the dangers inherent in poorly-conceived or poorly-implemented responses to those attacks and perhaps creating backlash and further radicalization? we'll start with humer. >> well, one of the realities we have to deal with we're facing a very sophisticated enemy and one which is quite open and wants to move in this direction and that is part of their own strategy. one of the first responses we have seen which is post the paris attacks which is the issue of refugees, right? now, if europe starts shutting its doors to refugees it is playing right into the hands of what isis-daesh has said what
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they want. in fact a few month ago when the body of the 3-year-old child washed up on a turkish beach and that gained international media attention, it became a big media issue on, look at this, what's happened to the refugees, within a week, isis had put out something like 10 different directives, telling syrian people, why are you leaving syria? you should actually come to us because we will protect you from assad. if you leave and every refugee leaving syria is actually, you have left the religion and you are now, you should be killed. we have the right to kill you. and so they don't want syrians to be leaving syria. that is one of their objectives. they're very clear on that. to the extent, of those eight attackers, there is one, most of them are french. but they said that they found
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one syrian passport. well, what the french news media was reporting yesterday was that the syrian passport belonged to a soldier, part of assads army who was killed six months ago. so the fact that he was carrying a passport which was off of a dead soldier is perhaps an indicator of misdirection which is there. so i think at this stage, while the investigations are happening we have to be cale not just respond with fear but actually make sure that we have a cool-headed response to what we do. in terms of responses overall, we have the option of, everyone has a role to play. it is not just government. it's the private sector. it is civil society. every role, every sector of society has a role to play, whole of government, whole of society. so we talk about what our cve, countering violent extremism, cve specific responses and cve relevant responses.
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cve relevant responses are things that change underlying environment but they may not directly addressing issue of extremism head on. cve specific responses address the issues head on. every community needs cve. specific and cve relevant. private sector is specially equipped or ready or enabled to be a platform for cve relevant measures because he have the ability to work in the world of awareness and education, of diversity and building inclusion. we talked about belonging, right? issues of identity. in fact your staff, your clients, people on the ground, every part of your world is impacted by this. working on issues of exit. if someone wants out how can you help them.
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let me talk about cve specific and especially for technology platforms and technology companies out there you have a tremendous role you can play in cve-specific work. >> it's always tough following humera. she makes excellent points. to build on what she said, the concept of resilliance is very important here, especially in the aftermath of an attack like one on paris. we need to understand that these sorts of terrorist attacks won't break us. they're not existential threats. i think government is promoting resilience of their populations, their citizens, is very, very important, so that you don't get very conservative responses or, responses that end up
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exacerbating the problem like we're starting to seem in terms of backlash against refugees or infringement on civil rights as intelligence efforts pick up. but, a lot of these responses will then end up with intel. and that's where it needs to stay. i think for, i'm sorry for cve efforts, there are, there are things that can be done. i will give you an example. in montreal they opened up a center for individuals who are suspected on being on the path for radicalization. it is a center that allows their families or friends to report them in a safe space. they have only had very few instances which they had to involve law enforcement, but such a center allows individuals with concerns -- if they themselves feel conflicted or on a path they can come and speak in a safe space. i think those types of programs are integral in this situation.
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i'm sure you will speak to the u.k.'s prevent and the way they handle sensitive issues. it is important not to immediately prosecute those that might start down the path but allow them opportunities to disengage before they engage in any violence. >> having said that i want to take advantage of other people's comments. i'm not used to going last too. i would like to reinforce christina's and humera's point about refugees and resilliance. there can be nothing more powerful than insuring we, at a time like this maintain the values that we hold so dearly and that we show in the face of these atrocityies very strong resilience. the attacks in paris can have a variety of effects.
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and something i said about eight years ago was, it is going to get bad before it gets better. it will get worse before it gets better. no doubt it did and it has gotten very worse. i would like to potentially see the attacks in paris as a turning point from this point onwards things get better, rather than worse. it's unfortunate that so many people have to die for it to get better. it is a bit like in the u.k. when rigby, a british soldier whose head -- he was beheaded on the streets of london and it was unfortunate that he had to die for people in our communities to stand up for our armed forces because, a lot of people, whether you believe it or not, in the u.k., we potentially
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maybe don't have the similar relationship with our armed forces that you might do in the u.s. but it was unfortunate that, you know, a soldier had to die on the streets of london for people to begin to stand up and support our armed forces and values which they stand which is to defend our country and our people and at that time one of the most powerful sound blasts i heard from the u.k. government, when david cameron, came out of 10 downing street with this above his head this is not representtation of islam. this is betrayal of islam. that sound bite really brought all of our community together. i think positive responses, carefully thought through responses by some of our leaders are crucial at this time. and so the paris attacks, i
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think i think, i wish and i hope will be a point where people realize the brutality of this ideology and realize this is not the path we want to follow. so i hope that they will prevent response to this, prevention to this nobody has to do anything about in order to dissuade people from joining this ideology, whether mentally, emotionally or physically. at the same time we've seen some responses in the u.k. and around the world which are celebratory where people cheered the attacks, were happy about the attacks. in a sense it encouraged people and renewed a sense of confidence in this group of people that this is, this ideology, look what it can do and look where it can get to. so it is kind of a double-edged sword but one thing i also do fear is a new war on terror, and
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i say war on terror in comments. with obviously france, you know, carrying out and escalating its raids in northern iraq and syria. and we really need to be careful as to how we, how we present ourselves in the aftermath of these events. we don't, we don't want, at a time when we have just gone over the toxic statement of war and terror i don't think we should be creating another environment where, where people feel that they are now the subjects of this war on terror. so it is absolutely crucial that we don't do that and that the raids that are taking place and bombing that is taking place, absolutely right. i'm not in the position to
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question military strategists, strategy in dealing with the threat but, in the way we, in the way we present that issue is very, very important. is this a revenge? are we becoming as irrational and insane as extremists and terrorists? all of sudden we want to throw 30, 40 bombs on, on to a nation, on to a commune that we weren't doing before? is this revenge? have we lost our sanity and our moral compass? how do people view us, all of sudden these images of jets flying off from airbases in the region? how do people, how do people view that? and we also want to insure that this is not seen as a kind of a,
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you know, kind of a religious war. and, that there is potential for that to happen as well. the last thing i want to say is, alongside the military action taking place, whether it is effective or not effective what we're dealing with is an ideology. you can't bomb an ideology. we were in afghanistan for 15 years and one of our main efforts in afghanistan was to destroy the taliban. the taliban are stronger today than they were 15 years ago. so they still exist and still causing problems within afghanistan. so an ideology can not be bombed, an ideology can not be destroyed. the only way to destroy the ideology through a big, global hearts and minds campaign and to work together globally in being able to deliver the hearts and minds campaign and to -- the battle out there is not a battle for ground. it is not a battle for
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territory. really the battle out there is for hearts and mind and unfortunately we're losing that battle at the moment and we need to do more. >> i think we now want to open up the floor to questions, if anybody has questions for our panelists. >> [inaudible] everyone can hear and also get recording of it, thank you. >> thank you very much. thank you for all the work that you're doing in communities in the u.k. and here in the united states. the foundation of society is a family and all the problems that we see in youth in the western civilization and the western world it starts at the family. you know when we see, when i see those young men in mexico being recruited by cartels to go out there and behead, you know people that are opposite, reminds me a lot of this radicalization problem. that it is taking advantage of
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disenfranchised youth. but it all starts in the family if you ask me because today, you know, young muslim men are going to mosque but they don't need to go to mosque to be radicalized. they can pick up that on the internet. and it all starts at the home because if parents do not know what their children are doing. because the parent made themselves be prejudicial against western ideas. so what do you think that communities can do, instead of posing on imams and what the message they're spreading is, society as a whole, in families as a whole? muslim community is not exempt of disintegration of the family nucleus and foundation of society is the family. if the muslim families are disintegrating, they're prejudicial just like many other western families might be, how
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can we find a solution? what do you think the solution to that problem is? >> there are a few points in response. i would start with, i think it's, it's hard to make a generalization that these individuals who are being recruited or joining extremist groups have broken families orthe families haven't adopted western values. i think are lots of and lots of examples to the contrary. they come from loving homes. their parents have been present and they're well-educated. so you can't make that broad generalization. but also there are many times and law enforcement attempted to involve family, parents in helping to deradicallize individuals and it does not work. for a whole host of reasons. either they're too set on path of radicalization.
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adolescents will hide things from their parents. i will start with that assumption. when it comes to violent extremism, i think role of friends and networks is infinley more important, not that family isn't but there should be a bigger role for the friends network. >> we need get cyber imams. >> say again? >> we need to get cyber imams. >> yes. cyber imams that would be great. every friday you could join in. hower of power. >> well, i agree with your point about the mosque not necessarily being a place where people, where individuals are radicalized. it has never been the case apart from a few, if i were to take a u.k. perspective, apart from a few known mosques and
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charismatic imams, mosques and places of worship are where muslim communities go to pray, they worship and they go home. it is not a place where people hang around much, to tell you the truth. but in the last 16 years definitely the cyberspace, the social, social media environments have become extremely powerful. a lot of radicalization in u.k. happened on line. that is definitely where we need to work. i've been recently going to schools in the u.k. i've been talking about social media. what i said we need to create a new word which describes how vastly and how quickly we can communicate on social media. because instantaneously, not just good enough. it is not just good enough. it is massive. but what also is really
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important that young people are so savvy with these things. they are so extremely savvy. that the three muslim young, innocent girls from the u.k. who decided to pack their bags up and go to syria, their parents didn't have a clue. they just didn't have a clue. the family was fine. the family unit was fine. it was a loving family. they just didn't have a clue. i mean young people are so savvy and so sophisticated how they deal with these things. the family is important. i agree. i have young children. as much as i keep on my young children, i fear one day my daughter won't come home and she won't come home not because she is at after-school club. it is because she left the country. that is how scary the environment is and issue.
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family is important and family has a role to play. but like the honorable gentleman said, this new digital space, this new digital world, this virtual world we created can do. amazing things at the same time can do horrible things as well. last thing i would say in terms of sophistication and savvy, my son is great example of that. he has this online account where he has to do his homework and many of you probably know about it. but he is able to hack into the website and change his scores, to show that he has completed his homework. , when he has actually hasn't. he told me could do that but these are the kind of mind we're dealing with.
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>> so intelligence analysts are estimating that in north america, 90% of the radicalization or recruitment is happening online. in europe the number is 50% in face-to-face and only a% online. the numbers dropped even more when you're talking about middle east, north africa, asia. we have to remember this is a representation actually of, of internet penetration, right? how communities and how they engage and technology is used. this is not a surprise because every young person you know has got at least one smartphone. right? that is the reality we're working with. it is also the age, talking about 14 to 25 where every study says they listen to their peer, right? they are most impacted by their
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peers and friends network. a lot less impacted by authorities figure talking down to them. but let me ask you, any one of you. how many of you are going to say, i volunteer or i encourage my 15 or 16-year-old child to talk to stranger online and convince them not to go to syria? how many of us are willing to have our kids actually join the battle, knowing what they're up against is the whole isis machinery? because the moment you try and tap into it. we actually engage online into space and deal with people online that are recruiters. you can not just talk to one of them, you get attacked by teams of them who are monitoring conversations and change what has been said in the text. for every individual who has been recruited, their handlers who are managing their special media presence at any point in time.
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that is just on the public side, right? so it's, the issue is bigger because where we have the most leverage is also most valuable population, right? how do we make sure if we're going to get our youth into this world, do we really want our youth to be involved in counterterrorism? that is a huge ask. there is something no good answer to and something we're grappling with. you talked about instantaneous. i want to give you example. last year the senate put out a torture report. it dropped at like midnight. guess how long it took before isis supporters were actually tweeting excerpts from that? 30 seconds. from when it went on the website. . .
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it sounds like change can only happen if people are aligned on this globally, and networking in silos and not focusing on what approach but focusing on a variety of approaches. another but was made when something happens people often have a knee-jerk reaction and
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seek short-term knee-jerk solutions which may focus on symptoms rather than the root cause. you also pointed out how this is global without borders. my question is in my thought is, has anyone considered the value of intersexual partnerships between government agencies come ngo's or nonprofits come and you can't do this been like one big massive intersects oral partnership, maybe networks of those. that would have there is roles and responsibility and a variety of approaches so that didn't work inside with and there is more of a collaborative on focusing on that different approaches for the holistic approach to work on this. to think that is feasible? if so how could such a thing even be a symbol? >> i will start with my snarky take on this one. it would be great to have this, and the summit which happened starting from february onward,
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many summits have worked on exactly this but in effect in october when we had all the meetings, there were several the initiative just started, it was smart city, resolve, civil partnerships and new networks which are coming in to play. the radio it is is how do you manage them and how do they become useful. you take for example, smart cities. that's about connecting mayor some differences around the world so they can actually start to deal with these exchange information and knowledge come best practices for good practices so they can learn from each other. i've talked to a mayor in a town in norway, shall remain unnamed, and the response was the network is great but am still waiting for america to tell us what to do. you sort of look and say this is network, it's supposed to be everyone contributing. but there's expectations on some will need more than others.
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so this is a partnership, right, we recognize, everyone recognized the need for it but it hasn't happened yet. the other huge obstacle that we're facing and something which everyone is looking towards is that this sector in the past from all those belong to either law enforcement -- this is the first one of the first times in history where we are seeing civil society, you're going to step up and you will be part of a counterterrorism responses. civil society say, what are you talking about what we know nothing about the subject. law enforcement is having a very hard time and how to share information. this is new for everyone editing quick to give everyone space to make mistakes to anyone is going to step on each other's toes. it's not a static balance. it has the dynamic, fluid and shift i think we have to allow space to have what we call like
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safe fail. there's not failsafe that can have faced -- take the money and integrate into what we do next. >> i apologize. i have to end the panel at this time. i've gotten at the hi-fi. i do what is a tremendously for your panel and the panel members. [applause] one thing i have experienced over the last 18 months is required to the audience the more focused and more receptive they are to your discussions. and we could hear a pin drop today so thank you very much begin. [inaudible conversations] [applause]
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>> it's obvious that secretary kerry needs no introduction, i think by way of paying honor to his service, it does deserve mention that he's the son of a foreign service officer, and then answered his own call to duty with two tours in the u.s. navy, to include his time in vietnam followed on by 28 year career in politics during which time finishing up as that of our senate foreign relations committee. and into our great benefit coming on as assist secretary of state, the 6 68 secretary of state, john kerry. [applause] >> well, bill, thank you very, very much. good morning to everybody. thank you all for taking time to be here. thank you for, bill, not just the introduction, but for your outstanding leadership of the
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diplomatic security service. and i want to thank dan schlehr from raytheon and from my home state, and the 34 member organizations of osac for your tremendous contributions at a moment where the reality of what george shultz thought of doing 30 years ago or so has a lot more meaning, a lot more impact. yesterday i returned from paris, the city of lights, as it is known, where as everybody knows too well last friday the forces of darkness tried to take that light away, replacing it with fear, with terror, with death, with chaos. and obviously this tragedy came on the heels of terrorist
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strikes in beirut, baghdad, ankara, and the explosion of a commercial aircraft in egypt, which we now know from the russians they have deemed to have been a terrorist act. last weekend, as i think most of you know, i was in vienna where we brought together a broadly representative international group and agreed on the outlines of a plan to try to bring the syrian war to an end. the syrian war, as we all know, is a combination of things. it's a civil war, yes, but it's also a proxy war, regrettably, and that has to end. and that is why the president commissioned me particularly to seize the initiative and to go out and try to bring the parties together, and for the first time we were able to bring all of the
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parties to the table, including iran and russia. some criticized that, but i have to tell you, i don't know how you end the war if some of the biggest stakeholders aren't at the table, prepared to try to find a political solution. now, it is complicated, no question about it. and there are forces at play that have been at play long before the united states of america became a country. now, that doesn't mean that they are irreconcilable or impossible to be able to deal with. there were a lot of sunni and shia living together quite peacefully before the middle east began to boil over in the way that it is today due to a lot of different factors, not just the iraq war, though that
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obviously played a key role in it, nobody can hide from that fact, but also a clash of culture and modernity, a clash of, a process that has been building for some period of time as certain players have supported certain philosophies and ideologies and spread them through investments in various countries, and those are coming back to bite people today. but in the end, i do believe that the vast majority of people, vast majority of people, and i hear this wherever i go, are absolutely, totally committed in an unprecedented way to come together across ethnic, across religious, across political, across cultural lines to fight for decency and for
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stability and for a future that is not based on creating chaos and violence. daesh doesn't have a platform, folks. they're not arguing about health care or infrastructure or schools. they don't want schools, and to whatever degree they want anybody educated, they want them educated exactly by what they believe people ought to be learning. they kill people because they, they kill yezidis because they are yezidis. they kill christians because they are christians. they kill shia because they are shia. and people need to understand this, there is no negotiation. there's nothing to negotiate when you license rape as a form of daily life and call it the will of god. show me a religion anywhere, including islam, which teaches
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that. this is a complete aberration. a lot of them are ideologues run amok, but a lot of them are also criminals run amok, and people for whom this is an adventure and a great opportunity to go out and be paid to do whatever you want, rape, pillage, and plunder. so this is a moment for all of us, let me make that clear. this is a moment, a generational moment perhaps, but it's a moment in history where we have to all of us collectively stand up and say no, we're not going to accept this, but also we're not going to be intimidated by it. we're not going to be somehow cowered in our pursuit of daily life and of the values which drive us as a country and as people, as human beings. we've worked too hard and too long after two world wars and through the cold war, and the creation of the united nations and all that comes with it, and
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all of our efforts to try to carry values and interests that talk about resolving things through rule of law and living peacefully together, notwithstanding differences, and promoting tolerance, tolerance, one of the most important words in life today and one of the most important organizing principles of any decent society. so that's our obligation, folks, and we need to absolutely make clear our willingness and our determination to stay together, to protect each other, to show that we are not intimidated and that we will never allow these terrorists to achieve their vile aims. now, let me make my point as clearly as i can, there are no grounds of history, religion, ideology, psychology, politics, economic disadvantage, or personal ambition, that justify the slaughter of unarmed
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civilians, the bombing of public places, or indiscriminate violence towards innocent men, women, and children. and such atrocities can never be rationalized, and we can never allow them to be rationalized. there's no excuse. they have to be stopped. now, that is precisely where the advisory council is playing an indispensable role and where you can play a larger role going forward. but let me make this clear, we don't have any illusions about how complicated this is. most people don't think that another invasion by americans in yet another muslim country in which the local citizens are not prepared to fight back and hold the land that you then gain makes a lot of sense, which is why our strategy, and there is a strategy and it is clear and it's working, not as fast as
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anybody would like, but working. we have liberated communities in iraq and in syria. tikrit, which was taken over by isil, has now seen 100,000 sunni be able to come back and rebuild. baiji refinery, which was under assault for months, is now securely in the hands of iraqis. ramadi the forces of iraq, where they've lost 200 people and some 1,200 wounded, are fighting to retake ramadi, and they will. sinjar was just liberated over the weekend with several thousand peshmerga routing daesh from that community, and they scattered. and just in the last few days we have taken on their oil revenue, which is where they are really getting their money to pay for this, these tentacles that are reaching out. and we destroyed over 161 oil trucks, and that will continue, a campaign that will deprive them from their smuggling to iraq and to turkey from which
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they get literally hundreds of millions of dollars. in addition, we have shut off three-quarters of the border of northern syria into turkey, and the last 98 kilometers is an operation that we will engage in together with the turks in order to shut that off also. and there are syrian arabs and kurds who are starting to put pressure on al-raqqa, and in the last few days you've seen russia and france increase the bombing level against al-raqqa. and we will see greater coordination in this effort. but there's another side of the coin. why do all these fighters come there? where are all these people? where do they come from? they came to fight assad. they came to fight because he and his response to the arab spring was to send his thugs to beat up the young people who went out to demonstrate for jobs and for opportunity and for a future. and when the parents of those young people saw what had happened to them, the parents went out and demonstrated.
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and they were met not with thugs, but with bullets and bombs, ultimately. now you have over 300,000 citizens of the country who have been killed, barrel bombed, tortured, starved, gassed, which is against international law, as everybody knows. and three-quarters of the country has already voted with their feet. they're displaced people. they are refugees, 4 million refugees, and the rest of them displaced within the country itself, seeking refuge and shelter from the man who supposedly leads the country. it's a 65% sunni-majority country. are you telling me that even if the united states wanted to keep him and sat there, you couldn't do it, because those folks won't stop fighting because of what he has done. that's the other complicating factor here, daesh and assad. so for the first time, we got
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people to sit down at the table and everybody, including iran and including russia, signed on to a communique that said we all want a united syria, we all want a secular syria, we all want a syria in which the minorities are fully protected and there is tolerance and respect for different religions and different cultures. all of us signed on to that, including signing on to a transitional process of governance where you put together a governing capacity that can take some of the power that assad currently has in order to run the country and put together a constitutional reform process, which everybody signed on to, and ultimately have an election. and now they have signed on to somewhere like six months to try to do the political process, and a year to be able to have, year and a half to have the election. that's unanimous.
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now, the difficulty will come in the application. we all understand that. but i will tell you that i think every country there understands this is dangerous, what is happening, and it is empowering evil people. so hopefully, common sense can prevail, and we have seen a lot of that in the last few days, happily. it's been hard to come by, but i think more people are now prepared to show it, and we are, over these next few days, constantly open to figuring out how we could qualitatively apply more pressure, do a better job. the president has made critical decisions. he's decided to put a certain number of american special forces on the ground in syria in order to enable other people to be able to target and learn how to do things more effectively, and we're confident that that will put additional pressure. and i am certain that working with everybody, if the political
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process works, the theory of the case is very simple, if you can get a transitioning council, if you can begin to move power to an accepted entity, then you have the ability to bring everybody in the region together to go after daesh and isil, and that includes the standing army of syria as well as the opposition together, providing you have a legitimate political process. that's how much hangs in the balance right now on this political effort, to see if diplomacy can actually succeed in creating the transition and, indeed, empowering all of us together. because what is notable about this situation is that every single country in the region is opposed to daesh, every single country in the world, every civilized person in the world. so i am convinced that if we are clever, creative, patient,
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tenacious, persistent, and steady, we will have the ability to be able to destroy daesh, and in the doing of that, send a message to boko haram, to al-shabaab, to al-qaida, to any other entities in the world that the world will stand united against barbarism and against an attack on our very purpose and on reasonableness itself. our embassy has, as you know, been working around the clock, delivering the full range of consular assistance to everybody who is in france, to all americans in france, and we're going to continue to help however we can. but i will thank you today profoundly for the work of osac, because behind the scenes, you have performed the role that you were conceived to play, as a point of contact for our private sector in a moment of crisis and a source of information, intelligence, and security for
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u.s. organizations abroad. on the very first night, osac created a website for the paris country council, and that was available to over 150 members in the area, and since then, osac has been in constant touch with private sector constituents in and around paris, offering advice and sharing security-related updates with u.s. organizations and businesses. osac also reached out to california state university, whose student nohemi gonzalez was among those murdered, and sent out security advisories to other young americans who were studying in france. moving forward, osac will stay connected with its private sector partners and will produce post-attack analysis and reporting that will help everybody to be able to prepare for the future. so all of these efforts,
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frankly, combined remind us why george shultz was prescient when he established this structure. and he knew from his own experience that the world was growing more dangerous, even as it became more interconnected. and he knew that it's going to be very important for our diplomats and citizens to work together and to have each other's back. the events of the past few days speak to the essential need for us in government or business or nonprofits or elsewhere, faith-based organizations, whichever, to stay ahead of the curve in assessing new risks and taking protective measures to respond to them. we obviously cannot afford to be slow in sharing information because information that comes later, not at all, is a precursor to disaster. we have to be knowledgeable enough about local conditions and circumstances to discern the difference between an empty threat and a real one. and we have to stay in touch so
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that if an emergency arises, as in paris last week, we know where you are and what you need. since friday night, there has been a great deal of discussion about so-called soft targets, cafes, restaurants, sporting events, a concert venue, soccer stadium, and so forth, the types of places that you wouldn't automatically expect to be a prime target for a global terrorist organization, which obviously are today. and these targets are viewed as anonymous destinations, chosen almost at random, you can go on google map and pick spots and map it out pretty easily these days. and the ultimate purpose of those attacks is to do what the name terrorist implies, to sow terror, to scare everybody. shopping malls, a restaurant, anywhere.
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the idea is to make us believe that we are always going to be in such grave and imminent danger that we actually have to stop what we're doing and change our choices and change our way of life. and in the case of osac members, the work you're doing is really important, obviously. you're building infrastructure. you're conducting business. you're leading local projects. you're providing needed services. you're participating in civil society. you're helping to build the opposite of everything that these people want to destroy. it's pretty stunning when you think about it. a professor in syria who spent his life curating and caring about art and was the most knowledgeable person about the history of palmyra, 83 years old, hauled out into a village square and they chop his head off, string his body up, and
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then they go and destroy the roman arch that was a symbol of this community. nobody who witnesses that kind of destruction and that kind of horror should have any doubt in their heart or in their gut about how critical it is for us to stand up. and we have stood up before, my friends, stood up to the fascism of world war ii. we have stood up to the horrors of the holocaust, stood up to extraordinary moments of challenge. paris has had worse moments than it had last weekend, and it came out of it. and i assure you we will come out of this. so we're going to continue to expand and broaden our commercial and our academic connections overseas. we're going to visit and invite visitors. we're going to do the right thing by refugees. i mean, how is it that somebody can suddenly say that a 50-year-old woman with her grandchildren is going to be a
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threat and that we can't process people adequately to keep faith with our values in this country? we're going to continue to be proud in this department to represent the united states of america. and make no mistake, none of you have to be nominated by the president of the united states or confirmed by the senate to be an ambassador for the united states. every single one of you is an ambassador when you travel abroad. and that's what you and your companies represent every day as you bring with you a set of business practices and a set of hopes and opportunities and jobs that help to shape this world. it matters enormously that you carry that role of ambassador seriously, because in the process, you win friends for our country, you explain to people that we're not telling anybody what they have to do, we give people a choice, and we don't punish people if they don't make
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the choice we wanted them to. you can help earn respect for those values, and you do. and all of this is multiplied when you reply to acts of terror with affirmations of courage and friendship and support. that is why osac is so vital. that's why we are so happy to have you all here today. and my message to you today is one of enormous gratitude, thank you for all you have done and continue to do to keep americans safe around the world, and to enable america to continue and individual americans themselves to continue to contribute to international prosperity, to development, to democracy, and to justice. and my message today is also one of encouragement on the accomplishments of the past 30 years and to continue strengthening our partnership and helping us to make progress in the years to come. thank you very, very much. appreciate it.
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[applause] >> that will conclude our morning session. we were reconvene at 1:25 p.m. to begin our risk analysis presentation. thank you. >> the u.s. senate is about to gavel in. they will begin with the general speeches. at about 11 each and senators will resume debate on 2016 spending for the departments of transportation and had. the money goes to highways, mass
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transit, the faa, rao, public housing and community development programs. the senate will spend most of the day working on amendments to the bill. live senate coverage now here on c-span2. the president pro tempore: the senate will come to order. the pastor jeff wheeler, pastor oin sioux falls, south dakota, will lead the sna the? prayer. the guest chaplain: good morning. let's pray. almighty god, we pause today to declare your matchless power and moral perfection. we're reminded that you're in cont

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