it's not surprising that the younger generations have no knowledge. and jean, she was a teenager, maybe 13, 14 when rosemary disappeared from the family. [inaudible] yes, absolutely.

[inaudible] the whole family was transformed because of rosemary. there's no question about that. jack and eunice and senator kennedy and bobby, all of them come and their wives. it's very clear. that's rosemary's legacy. if there's a tragic there's also this incredible outcome way that they were able to affect change for millions of people around this country and around the world. >> do they still perform the procedure? how to replace it with something else similar? >> lobotomies are very, very rarely performed today. i think they use laser in fact today. don't quote me on that but i think they do. do. >> there are several states where it is illegal. >> most across the country.

there are certain cases where it is recommended, and according to laws and medical boards that has to be a specific patient board and a medical board the best review the case. the hospital has to donate the time and the services, the equipment. a doctor has to donate his time. no one gets paid for it. it's only used in extreme cases. and i spoke to a friend who is a neurosurgeon, and he has done it twice in his career, and it was for people who have been institutionalized basically in straight jackets for their whole lives in psychiatric hospitals. this particular surgery is incredibly effective for a particular type of mental illness. so the two patients he told me about were able to leave the psychiatric hospital, get high school college, masters degrees and live in the thing that lives. so it does happen it is with

great, great care, and it's not very often. [inaudible] -- special needs because of rosemary, because he knew that she and the family, that was like presented, had special needs. >> eileen would probably note more about this than me but i think unesco president kennedy -- >> i think -- eunice got the president to pay attention to this issue. >> kate, i'd like to salute your beautiful, fantastic book. >> thank you. >> besides the problem with rosemary, this could make awareness of this book to many other problems in the united states.

so i respect and thank you so much, kate. >> thank you so much applaud b but. >> -- [applause] >> if there isn't anything else, no other questions, then we are thrilled that you can, delighted that you participated, and our offer will be outside signing books for you. >> thank you, eileen. thank you. [applause] next on the book tv, investigative journalist joe domenick chronicles am