>> this is a little bit out of the buck but do you explain why cuba and baseball are so? it's been about 70 years and tremendous interest in baseball even now. >> cuba is introduced back in the 1860s by the sons of wealthy families who came here to study and then came back there. and i think as i mentioned before, it was so interlocked with the fight for independence against spain that was one of the main things ingrained in the culture in a way choosing baseball over a so that is why

it became so ingrained in the culture it was a rejection of all things, and the embrace of the united states in a way. >> anyone else wax if there's no other questions i want to thank you all for coming if you want to buy a book i would be glad to sign them. thank you.

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with >> the opening line of your book backlash. one of the first things that comes up when you look up my name is the article, titled three at the black tea bagging.

that's quite an opening line. >> and it's the truth. this is all the result of me being a black conservative, someone that is an independent thinker and doesn't follow the crowd. there are people out there that don't like the message of liberty and responsibly, so what they do is attack me versus having a discussion in terms of what my views are in a very stand on certain issues. >> [inaudible] i think that my message is getting out there because when people attack you, they try to shut you down by calling you names and that is something that isn't going to stop me from delivering my message. and again, i'm able to tell my story and in my book about how i got off the sidelines of being a citizen to really being enacted liberty. and i don't think that it's for people to have a conversation

with individuals in terms of what you can do to play the role in terms of bringing in a government that is that longer in our country. >> where did you come up with the name? >> i was trying to be clever and get peoples people's attention. also, the name is very synonymous because people are curious and so that also brings them into try to find out where this is all about. >> most negative comments come from african-americans or white people? >> i believe it comes from black americans. there are people that call me names i can't even say on this network.

>> white people can be liberal or conservative. in fact they are free to flirt with communism or socialism, too. but why is it that they seem to have more choices than i'm supposed to have and why can't a black woman questioned the spending? >> when i wrote the book the debt was about 16 or 15 trillion it is over 18 trillion. we have government spending that is really out of control and i think that is something people need to recognize because we are in debt. we have to pay that money back and so this is a burden that is on our children and grandchildren and future generations. acquire you saying we don't have an option for political views? >> we do have the option and all americans should have the option whatever it is they believe in and stand for it to not be afraid to be criticized.

>> in your book you take on jesse jackson, al sharpton and charlie wrangle. any particular reason why? >> when i wrote growing up it was the same message that i heard in the different publications because of their skin color the individuals you mentioned. my book tells the people came from growing up and looking at numerous jobs and advancing myself because of what i wanted to do for myself and i never fell for the signal of the blame game because of the failures that are happening in the community i never fell for the victimization so i think that it is a great story to see if i can

do it you can do it no matter what your circumstances or family situation. >> how did you come to your political views flex >> because of my parents and how they voted i thought that is all there was and i didn't do any research or know a lot of reading but plans to go once i told them the different things and experiencing different situations and meeting a number of different people and different political views that's when i realized i was being lied to for many years especially the victimization. if you take risks, doors will always open for you. i always made the best of each opportunity in each circumstance.

and i am someone that was able to work at a corporate company for 20 years in manhattan and went to school for 11 years at night while working full-time because that's what i have to do to get my college degree and thank god i was the first college graduate in my family which i am very proud of. the doors were opened and the open and the opportunities were out there. i can't say enough how exceptional the country is that it's important for people to take advantage of the opportunities that are available for them. >> who are your parents? >> my pair and still a live in live and a life and a instilled in me a great work ethic to respect other individuals and to basically stay out of trouble because when you make certain decisions and choices, they will follow you throughout your life and i think god for my parents every day. >> what kind of work work do they do?

to >> my father was in productions. >> at work and work the supermarket that nice? >> worked two jobs for 30 years. and i saw how he got up early and i admire my parents very much for making sure that we got our education and also watching how they went about their dalia lives to keep a roof over our head and food on the table. >> what do they think of you being in the tea party? >> my parents are very open-minded in terms of where i stand and what might views are. it's been a treat for them. i happen to be a contributor and they get a kick out of seeing me on television because it's a huge audience for people and they also know the challenges going up against, but they understand, and they understood where i came from and of course

they knew what i was like indicating that i it is a very determined child and i have my own views and opinions early on, was a little starter every now and then, but i don't think that they have to worry about me because they knew that i would make my way. >> you include -- you compare your experience with michelle obama. >> i compare it because a lot of the comments i've heard and read about her but she complains about black americans going to different universities or how they were targeted and i tell you it is hard work. if you were able to get into school, any school or even the trade if you are not able to go to college, utilize the opportunity to. they are the plans you follow.

expect why do you include the track story? >> first of all that was my first love, track and field. i ran the sport events when i was in high school, long jump, before 40 and the 100-yard -- to veto and i loved every minute of it. i was a true tomboy and i love sports. and i just thought to mention that it's something for our young people to look at. fortunately i wasn't able to utilize the scholarship to go to college because of my senior year in high school i worked half the day and then i went to school for half the day. another great experience for me i wasn't able to go to college right away but that's okay because i appreciate what i have to go through.

i went to school for 11 years and i didn't waste any opportunity. i utilized every moment and every second that i could to make the best of it. >> the subtitle how obama and the left are driving americans to the government plantation. first of all what do you mean? >> i mean when there are way too many individuals are relying every day to need and with the current administration there are record numbers of individuals relying whether it is energy assistance, food stamps, the number is going up because the policy under this administration is hard-working americans. if you look at something like obamacare dot for example, people can keep their plan and they will go down but that's not what happened. it is the was the opposite. and i met people that have lost their health insurance and their

entrance into their doctors and their experiencing the record rates. and my heart goes out to those individuals. they won't support their families, they don't want to have to rely on the government. but i do see a lot of people who are in circumstances he don't want to be in because of the failures of the big government. >> what made you entered your first tee party? that is a commitment. >> while i tell you it was a great experience for me in 2009. prior to that i would go to the local meetings. i lived in new york and i don't want high taxes because that is more money out of my pocket and i could be using other things. so i got involved because years ago i wasn't somebody focus on politics and look at the situation that we are in with

the debt and spending and the spending and the government encroachment into our everyday lives with her it's the lightbulbs that you use or the car that you drive and i got tired of it. so i got involved and it's a wonderful thing to see americans all across the country get involved in activism because it is up to the citizens to play the role and look at the politicians are doing and what positions they are making. and positions understand and they work for us. the answer to us and that is why it is so important for people to recognize what's going on. >> when you saw what happened in baltimore but would you like to see? >> i found this to be heartbreaking what happened for the citizens basically turning down their own neighborhoods. i also find that a lot of the decision-making that came from

the nadir and the local establishment of the government really didn't have a handle on the situation and so it really was out of control and unfortunately that situation turned into citizens being pitted against the beliefs or the law enforcement. the situation shouldn't have happened. it was a local issue and it should have been held on the local level but we had outside external influences that came into that community and really inflated the situation and it made matters much worse. >> to tell you the truth i don't believe that i have and i tell you that because i'm sitting here with you today and i taken advantages of opportunities if someone told me no, whatever color they were an identity to personally. i wasn't offended. i just looked for another

opportunity to advance my agenda to get ahead. for me to sit here and say have i ever been targeted racially, i can't say that i have. >> on the morning show the washington journal we often hear from viewers that are opposed to president obama because of racism. something that you addressed. >> they get to realize they have all the bases covered. if you are conservatives such as myself, but we have all the bases covered. but they are not looking at artifacts are with all the spending and the debt. if you look what happened in the community for example president obama opposes to the choice. why would you oppose a program that would help disadvantaged

children get out of the cycle that they are in and the broken household or a parent but may be an incarcerated in the neighborhood with gangs of the children to be empowered in education so that they can think for themselves and be well educated as two words in the community and to be able to support themselves once they get older. and that is just one example but there are policies in place that are harming those in the communities when it comes to education or job opportunities. what's going on in the community got also what they can do to turn the situations around. >> are the charter schools popular african-american households? spinnaker was a former member on the board several years ago and

the children i met and interacted with new where they came from in the public school where there was no control can the kids were not accountable, you put them in an environment where it's the learning environment and where they feel like they are being looked after and they had an opportunity and there is hope for them that is huge especially in harlem and in new york there is a member of charter schools that are available and the parents have come out in jones to demand more opportunities for their children because they know the dynamics from the public's founding children to the opportunities that are limited in charter schools because their were not enough seats and the parents are preaching the thunder child is called they can have a hopeful future and get a quality

education. it's a shame how that isn't something that is front and center for people to understand and recognize the importance of the quality education. >> is the team party movement sustainable? >> whether it is called tea party or not, i think the grassroots movement across the country -- and i traveled the country substantially. i was recently in decatur illinois talking about a weeknight that over 200 people were out to hear me talk about my book and my story but also these individuals had what they can do because they are concerned about the direction of the country that we are going in and people are coming out on the weekend and into the tv cut -- evening and people are active

and it is a wonderful thing to see. >> out of the 200, how many were black? >> there were three, that was actually. and there are situations where there may not be any black individuals out of. they go through the churches and let them know that we are having this and invited and welcomed in talking about education and energy and empowerment going out and it's unfortunate when they don't show up. but i am also taking the message to chicago and to maryland and taking the message here and at the annual convention last year and people are open-minded and they want to hear how they can play a role and get involved because when the government is involved in our everyday lives, that is a trigger for a lot of

people to take a stand. >> from your book the naacp has put aside that it is a civil rights organization and has exposed its agenda as a left-wing promoter of all things progressive. >> there are other organizations and again why would you take the opportunity of a from disadvantaged children and also, they don't support black conservatives. i have sent them letters. i tried to speak at their annual conventions. my questions asked are ignored pretty naacp and they don't want my message for the personal response ability and of the government cut and that also in the special treatment throughout

the convention last year. there was a breakout session or the big room where they had different speakers coming in. they are basically grading the next generation mindset which i find very disturbing. >> was your reaction hostile? >> there was one incident i was on the main floor in the exhibit hall when a woman came up to me and told me i shouldn't be there because of my views and she was yelling and cursing at me on national television and she's one of many. she's entitled to her opinion. >> what is your relationship with jeffrey?

>> i can see that he knows who we are because we have gone through numerous meetings and in this instance he wants the boot of the government on the industry of energy so they can sell their renewable energy. so really they are hiding behind that big government where it's a profitable publicly traded company might. that is our tax dollars being used to influence the bottom line. >> corporate cronyism. spin it any time the government is involved in the big business i think that is a red flags for americans to recognize that happens. >> who is tom? >> he is my other half and we

are well known in different shareholder meetings and we have been to numerous meetings in the make the news and again it's another way for people to be empowered and ask the questions why are you making these positions or choices that are not in the best interest of shareholders it's a simple question but they don't like to be put on the spotlight especially as one of the boards and shareholders. >> where did you >> we met at work in manhattan years ago and we make a great team because we have the same mindset about liberty and freedom and it's important to educate individuals and get people fired up and involved in what they can do. we are just people but we have been able to make a lot of noise and gain a lot of traction. we have the media on twitter and facebook and people recognize us from this event which is great

and -- >> are you seeing some faces? >> ayatollah you a number of years ago i probably couldn't count them on one hand that i have been contacted on social media from numerous individuals who think me for what i do and my voice and they have my book and tell me i've been an inspiration to them and could not be concerned about what their friends and family and coworkers criticize them because of the way of thinking because of their views. so i think that i'm really able to make a difference from being afraid and being vocal. >> how do you think the republican party is doing on outreach to the minority community's? penetrating they should be doing a much better job and it's very telling because i see it as a

drive-by politician to get elected to the town hall the night go to the black community or they might not. they are not putting forth much effort like they should be. like i mentioned earlier we talked about energy. with the kind of administration policies and regulations that are harming the cost in the industry, think about it. before obama was president he said he wanted to skyrocket and he doesn't help anybody on fixed incomes but when it is a poor household that doesn't help look into how do i get my medicine, dwight have to pay more for my electricity bill, that doesn't

help the hard-working americans comes to look at what the administration is doing. talk about the issues whether people are black, white or otherwise but also what folks can do to play a role. >> several hundred people are announced for the gop nomination for president. anyone that you are favoring at this point? >> i'm still watching my mother once going to listen in from another water the constitution. a lot of the politicians just want to be elected to stay in business and do one thing to get elected and then once they are there they have no idea who the person is. so i want someone that is good to be true to their values. >> here is the cover. it is black/lash.

book tv on c-span2. .. ♪ welcome, everybody. my name is jim herman and i am here to moderate this discussion with the governor. governor john sununu was the governor of new hampshire from 1983 to 1989 and served as white house chief of staff chief of staff from 1989 until 1991. he's the father of eight

children which would explain a couple of those wrinkles. [laughter] but among his children is christopher sununu come into john sununu has a former united states senator. governor sununu was also the chairman of the new hampshire republican party from 2009 to 2011. i must confess to a little biased because governor sununu has written a book called the quiet man, the indispensable presidency of george h. w. bush. for those of us from texas of course, 41 as we call him is one of the most revered of all texans. briefly, he was a