the battle for a level is going to be fought on behalf of assad by iraqi shia, lebanese soldiers from hezbollah, iranian soldiers under the command of an iranian general covered by russian air power. that's what, so we have to be clear about what come it's not just that there at the table in the and/or wherever. these very actors were sitting there are busy doing the opposite of diplomatic work on the ground spent also don't have a litmus test for whether it's good work, ask one of the refugees, the reader involved that is because there's a million refugees. >> the starting point is that we don't want to let the fighting going on in maybe 10 years like a lebanese civil war which lasted 15 years, and then all syria will be depleted and nobody will be there anymore and it will just be victims.

so we don't want that. so we try very complicated things get and that is this political process. again, here the alawites have a role. they are part and parcel of syria. they are a minority but they have a place. >> that's the point i was trying to make. >> so that assad question is an important one. everybody knows there will be no sustainable, peaceful future of syria with assad but it would be wrong to say i'm five has to go before we saw a political process. >> but we have been saying that for four years that assad has to go before any negotiation, thereby guaranteeing that assad will fight to the last syrian to keep himself in office. i mean -- >> if we had to would've had to go into this anymore. if we had three or four years

ago denied assad's control of the skies and destroyed his helicopters, assad moscow would never turn into a fantastical proposition that it was. we're not talking either indicates of assad or in the case of isis about military superpowers. this is not what we are talking about. these are objectives that could be accomplished but we have to be willing to use the means to accomplish certain ends. but we should talk about the refugees. >> we want to leave you with a little bit of hope. yes, sir. >> chris davis, retired volunteer service office. returning to europe, there is a quid pro quo now with turkey in terms of its eventual membership to the european union, our close association with the european union. what are the implications of that with respect to the issues

that the eu are having to face right now? >> the turks have been seen and will continue to be seen as a key to solving the crisis part of the problem, a large flows that several thousand people every day. i said earlier that the european union focus on the wrong problem. initially it was libya had to turn up the in turkey was a much more dire. turkey used that to its advantage. it has negotiated producers in terms of what it once, solution to the problem that is able to get, the visa liberalization to let turkish citizens travel to europe really come to the opening up of negotiations, new chapters of negotiations for eu members. it's still not clear what turkey can deliver. in terms of being able to mitigate the flows. i think that in order for that to be realized at that slow down

the flows past be a commitment from europe to take hundreds of thousands of refugees from the region into europe without having to risk a medic train crossing, and there has to be a commitment from the rest of the world to take over 100,000 more from the region. and then i think that's a key issue. in turkey will want to see the funding that it wants, but want to see the status that it creates. it wasn't eu turkey summit for the first time on november 29 come a commitment, biannual eu turkey summit. >> you are correct in pointing out that in each of the recent european crises that the u.s. exposed as being very weak, and after these crises, and i look at the refugee crisis what no locus clear, i guess the question, the question is what is the eu necessary for the solution of these crises?

and why, given all the threats that that there should european are facing all that must be done, why must the preservation of the eu loom large in terms of their priority? one of the things we keep saying is that in crisis, nation-states tend to behave like themselves, right speak with i'm not going to get into question the natural character but they are pursuing their own interest. they have their own constituencies and so on. this strikes me as one form of normal, as one kind of normal order. some asking you, why should i not give up on the eu? why is it necessary? >> i have an answer. the eu is one of the most important piece projects in -- over the last centuries. we have managed to forge a union

of 28 still sovereign nations that default some other sovereignty to the union. but it brought peace to europe, and brought an absence, not on an absence of military conflict but commonality of values and projects. we have a transfer union that the eastern european countries are now far better off than they used to be. and boston is not part of the european union, but what the danger and the challenge is that there is no tendency to read nationalization. that can be toxic. i think, and a better, we have to have a coalition of strong leaders in europe and the european union that can contain that tendency to nationalize. my cancer is someone who would be willing to sacrifice a lot of

things if we can preserve this great peace project of the european union. >> i now, of course, one of the eu's proudest achievements which is a border for europe is in jeopardy as one after the other. countries are building walls around themselves. it really is a perilous moment that i would like to thank ambassador wittig and you, gregory, and leon, and above all i would like to thank the new america for hosting this conference on what is obviously a very urgent and troubling moment for all of us, and urge all of you to stay engaged. thank you very much. [applause] [inaudible conversations]

[inaudible conversations] >> earlier today the house passed a five day spending bill. the senate approved a bill yesterday. current government funding was set to expire tonight but with passage of a short-term legislation congress has five more days to come up with a long-term spending bill. the "washington post" reports that because house speaker paul ryan has promised to give

lawmakers three days to review the bill, pressure is on negotiators to reach a deal soon but according to the post, congress may pass another short-term spending bill if it needs more time to reach a deal. >> c-span picture on the road to the white house. best access to the candidates at town hall meetings, speeches, rallies and meet and greet. we are taking your comments on twitter, facebook and by phone. and always every campaign event we cover is available on our website, c-span.org. >> coming up later today on c-span, donald trump hold a campaign rally at iowa state fairgrounds in des moines. that's coming up live at 7:30 p.m. eastern on c-span. now he on c-span2, jeb bush campaign for president in manchester, new hampshire. he was joined by former homeland security secretary tom ridge.

[inaudible conversations] >> well,. [applause] -- well, welcome. welcome to the life of the party. it's great to have you. this is a wonderful opportunity for students to meet candidates. this is a conversation and we are thrilled to be here. i want to particularly thank bank of america and stay work play for the sponsorship of this series of events. our goal is to every candidate come and participate in the series. it's a great opportunity for you to meet candidates up close and personal. so welcome to saint anselm college, and i will hand it off. welcome, governor. >> good morning, everyone. are good afternoon at this point. just barely. thanks for being here today and welcome. i am kate luczko, president and

ceo of stay work play dementia. just a snapshot from the idea behind this event. were looking for an opportunity to get to know the president candidate carefully benjamite here elsewhere. we are looking for questions to promote conversations, questions that may be of particular interest to you folks so we have and this that 20 and thirtysomething audience. the idea that life of the party is to get to know some as if they were hosting a party. but what they wear bucks will get into those questioned in a little bit. before we get started i want to ask our other moderators to introduce themselves but also we have a hashtag if you're on facebook or twitter sure to take advantage of those. it's like the party nh. spent on chris, i've lived up here in manchester couple of years worked at the manchester chamber of commerce and when the nashua chamber of commerce so i've been involved with the manchester young professional network and nashua's young professional network and sat on

the board for stay work play for a number of years. >> i'm carmen, director for the division of economic development for the state of dementia. i from up in the lakes region and i'm a proud board member with stay work play. >> i'm ike skelton, president and ceo of the greater manchester chamber of commerce. i'm also a board member with stay work play and a former boredom of the manchester young professional network and live here in bedford, new hampshire, and i am a graduate of saint ann's in college so we're glad that you're. >> we wanted to kick it off with a question about how you're doing, how your campaign is doing and how you're doing as a candidate at the one of the things that i've joined a political race, observing this process is wondering how candidates can't endure and what you keep yourself fresh. what is your process for recovering after those debates,

or just your travel schedule going to and from multiple events. i know your flight in and out of new hampshire almost constantly. what's that like and how do you keep yourself moving as a candidate? >> is not much different in terms of energy expended that my adult life. i've worked hard ever since i got married when i was 21 answered working when i was 21 and have never taken more than a week off. that sound weird today i guess. it's just try to i am. i like working and what is being governor where i was all than to i just finished writing a book called reply all that was about my e-mails during my time, and probably had a couple million e-mails but the e-mails i responded to for easily 300, 400,000, something like that. i've lived a life that i get energy from working. so this is not different in that regard. what's a little different is that i am a white a lot. i'm going five or six days a week and soon probably even

more. i miss my wife. i miss sleeping, i bought a really cool bed. thinks now i take for granted, i've got a really good day. this is the bed that is like the cost like a yugo or a hyundai. it's pretty expensive indisputable. i sleep well. those are the simple things you kind of your for in this journey. i wake up each day excited about the journey i'm on. i work out every day. this morning i was in the hilton garden inn gym trying to go places. there were six is always there when i got there at 6 a.m. so i did my 100 push-ups and i do, i mean situps. excuse to get either do that many push-ups. >> now you are bragging. >> i stay in good shape physically. i tried to read which is hard to do. i try to stay current. i'm curious intellectually and i

like the intellectual curiosity to be fed. i don't push aside information. i like information to if i see something interesting i will take the time to call people. one of the powers that anybody can usually is not related to me as a candidate but i learned when i was a governor the power to convene. people are honored you ask for their advice. just tried. we've been article or someone that may be a leader of new hampshire that you would think, has got interesting point. call up and ask their advice. there's a better than 50/50 chance they will take you up on it. i find that to be fulfilling for me to keep me going. >> that's great but i think a lot of things you mentioned want to ask more about and get to know you all the more personally. i wanted to mention we have a few people with microphones and we want this to be interactive and informal. if you have a question raised her head. i will recognize you. we want to get your questions on different topics but i want to

start with cage was a question to kias up in line with today's theme event. >> if you're elected president and you are able to invite let's say that top 40 young professional leaders from around the country speed is i'm coming to new hampshire. >> to a party at the white house, what would that look like what what music would you play? what food and what activities? >> this reminds me of an event that took place in the governor's mansion. what's it called, the gregg meyer -- so the second of the department of children and families is that we should all take this test. about 50 of us to get together. she was the moderator, and it turns out i'm an introvert and this and that. i forgot the other parts of the. they broke up into groups between extroverts and introvert. they were like 40 extroverts in one room and about six of us. we were supposed to plan the

party. that you just described. >> just the introvert speak with the introvert who planned their party and asked averts what planet does. we quickly decided are all going to read a book about a week and it would have been interesting dinner conversation that would be over early about the book that we read. the extroverts did in atlanta their party. they started partying. they literally got a conga line to get and they came into our room to mock asked about how serious we were. i don't know. i have to be careful about it. i would try to learn from the 40 most talented young professionals rather than try to tell them whatever i was thinking. i have had to be a good leader jeff to listen and learn first. i would try to find the knowledge and experience of younger professionals so it might have to be something that would be serious. i apologize. >> let me follow up on that. if you were to invite certain

people to the party, i'll give you three you can invite. two of them have to be historical figures indicate the past presidents. that's too easy. so give us to historical figures and one current celebrity that you want to put in the mix, and why. >> i wouldn't invite a donald trump. [laughter] leaders. winston churchill is probably the guy that i most admire just because of the range of his experience and knowledge and his life experience, experts as an artist. he wrote prolifically. he was a wartime leader like no one else. he saved they suggest by history determination he saved his country. is phenomenal. he fought in wars. he reported on wars. he changed parties. he defied the conventional wisdom of the staunchest sitting and listening to him, give him a break and a sigar. would have to be outdoors

probably at that was the case but that would be well worth it. i don't know. i would love to meet and have a conversation with neil armstrong. i think to discredit the space is something that's deeply underestimated in terms of how uniquely an american experience that is and how the normal it is for us to make it our space program. to talk to someone who actually was the first to walk on the moon, wow. i mean, he's left us but in terms of presidential leaders, there is a whole lot we could learn from for sure. the greatest president in my mind was abraham lincoln, or washington. i'm related to franklin pierce. he would not be on my list but had to mention that since we're in a measured. he saw my mother's side of inevitable day. i think lincoln would be just a phenomenal person to learn from. >> what about a current

celebrity? >> current celebrity, i don't know. i really don't believe in celebrity. i don't. i find it superficial. there's not many actors that, i couldn't a big match, they fight with matt damon about school choice. just seems so superficial. i'd rather be with people that have done things. does that make sense because it does. >> i found out that she majored in latin american studies when you're in college, and i did. >> what schools because i did my study abroad in mexico. i was at george washington university. a great program. >> did you have a boyfriend like i had a girlfriend? >> in mexico? no, i didn't actually. >> that was my motivation. >> all right. >> i had a latin american affair before i made -- [laughter] >> nice. i was just really curious about how you are experts in those been studying another culture

and then doing the exchange, how do she just such a fromentine. >> it was really, i would andover down the road and we had a trimester system. for one trimester i went to mexico with eight or nine of my colleagues, and maybe and we a schoolhouse in a rural area outside the tent i met my wife at the very end of that time. and so i me i spoke, i spoke spanish okay. people as a barefoot sometimes you are done. i would was one of those. i probably brag i was fluent but i was and i fell in love. i was something and give him a life can be defined before her and after. i get out of school in two years. two-and-a-half is that it took a semester off. so she just got me going. i wanted to marry her literally on the spot. that was not possible. might interest in latin america really was principally driven by her. so it was not, kind of a backdoor way to the degree.

we lived in venezuela, and i live in miami which has got one foot firmly planted in our country one in latin america. i love the region and think it's important for us politically and diplomatically and economically to be more tied to the region. my life experience helped me along the way. if it wasn't for meeting columba i would not have been a latin american studies major. i would not have gone after two years. i would not have lived in miami. i would not have lived in venezuela. life happens that way. you can't plan it. >> while we are on that topic. energy talk about how that experience in your life has informed your views on immigration which is a big discussion during the campaign. could you talk about how it has informed your views. i think a lot of the question we are wondering is what is the answer? how do we address this issue?

>> on the broad question of immigration, what makes us an extraordinary and exceptional country is that our shared values define our national identity and our citizenship if we are the only country that has that at its core. in most countries it's either raise that defines it, the japanese are japanese. you know, if you show up it's very restricted it's based on race. they have an incredible culture but it's a different kind of citizenship than what we have. and our strength has been historically that we embrace a set of values and it doesn't matter what we look like or whether we have a ball at the end of your name or word you were born. we are losing the. the immigrant experts as part of our heritage and it's been every so i think with the most creative country in the world and the most innovative. we lose it because we don't control the border. we lose because the rule of law doesn't seem to apply like it should.

we lose it because we now have political leaders and the like to divide us up. is there a set of common values now that define american citizenship? we have t got a much stronger belief in our heritage, our past. i don't know if you guys see those tv shows with a stick a microphone on someone in the streets of new york and ask how many supreme court justices are there or how many branches of government. it's a little scary to say the least. just going back to the basics, i think would make immigration a catalyst for a lot of good things. if we don't have a set of shared values come if we don't have a common identity about what our heritage is that people can't buy into, it's a problem. right now it is being preyed upon in the political sphere. >> what role do you think the next president can point in doing that? is it about leadership speak with we have to fix it. you can say that line just about for everything. taxes, regulation, health care.

we have to start fixing things in the immigration system is broken. the legal system is broken. we have family petitioning being the driver of 90% of all legal immigrants. so spouse and minor children which you would say that the definition of family, that every country has and we have adult siblings at adult parents on top of that. at its chain migration is taking effect. basically crapped out all forms of immigration. fixing that, fixing our border comedy with the fact people extend their stay when have a legal visa. we have to look at the threats of terrorism and deal with that. we have the visa waiver program for european countries principally, and some asian countries, allows for expedited entry to our country. gosh, we have citizens of europe that pledge their allegiance to islamic terrorists. we should not make it easy for them to come in. we have to adjust our laws going

forward but to protect our legal immigration system with to make sure that coming here legally is a lot easier than coming in illegally. that's what's been missing in the last few years. we have to restore that. how do you fix it? you roll up your sleeves and benchmark that you don't businesses do. we do what we do in our lives. user here are the objectives, the strategy, make sure you can been. make sure people are on target. there's money to build the places where walls are probably. there's funding for it. there's funding for border saturday but we need to get them on the border. there's funding for the gps technology and the drone technology that could help us. congress has funded the exit and entry part, biometrics make it easy to track where people are when they come in legally and overstayed a visa. we just need leadership to monitor it and make sure we are applying all of the tools at our disposal to make it happen.

>> if i could get more to you personally for a second. i'm curious -- >> just don't go boxers or briefs only. >> yoyou made a comment earlier about being thoughtful growing up. spent i was a thoughtful as a kid. after spent after you got married. i was a big fan of the hardy boys books going out. i'm curious what you would of read when you were a teenager come in college, et cetera and beyond. would you consider any of the books you read really informative? >> the books at the biggest impact on the with the books that my spanish teacher at andover required me to read because not only, there was a great works. i had to read these extraordinary writers. i didn't think i could do it. i do remember what the books were about to be honest with you just that i could read it was like wow, i'm actually capable

more than i thought i was. i was capable of doing things. they pushed the school figures like a gigantic move to know. i had a headache all thought it was so hard. ultimate i figured out how to do things. so when it was reading, it was like 600, 700 pages long in spanish. when i started i didn't think i could finish it when i finished it i said it i can do calculus. that kind of experience has had a lasting impact because i think everything would be we should be raising expectations on ourselves and others rather than lowering expectations to excuse away why people are not achieving what they could achieve. the books i read now are all over the map. i read mostly to learn. i'm reading the biography of my dad, surprise, surprise. >> does anything surprise you? >> actually there were things i didn't know about, he had a

diary and he was pretty disciplined about writing in it. and he had doubts about himself, doubts about where he was in life. that i never saw her i always i am totally in charge. i idolized the guy. so is interesting inside that he was a human being. upset when he lost and happy when he won. it's kind of strange but when you're a sense of someone you don't get those kinds of insights. and how he learned from his previous job of being head of the liaison office and director of the cia epidemic instead when he became president. >> speaking about your dad, professional and personally, you know him like no one else could spent a fairly i didn't spend what would you like in the most about your father? on the flipside what would you perhaps do regularly from which her father did speak with you know what, i was in my mid '20s, married and had two

kids. i was working and my dad, just come you always try, if you could relationship with your family you tried to be a man your dad was. that expression i think happens to a lot of us. i realized if i tried to achieve what i thought my dad was that i would be, get about 50% of the way there. i could either except that as a dramatic experience and go get a therapy and live a miserable life or i could accept being half the man my dad was, or is. and still live a life of purpose and meaning. ..

>> >> i cannot think of anything i would not want to me i can promise you that.çó >> ag for taking the question about contractors' right now you're a federal contractor you can lobbied the government with money were paid by the government to do the job to get more

money would you support any requirement? >> that ought to be posted on the internet with the top staffer or elected official and the money that they used to lobby or to provide support for campaigns should be completely transparent. >> cry governor. i want to ask your advice. and you are very personable you clearly know the issues i saw yesterday as a matter of fact with the way the conversation went and how you worked the crowd.

that the end of the word gas and oil came up and it seems some air went out of the room so how do you your personality and charm for you are not pigeonholed into the gas and real issues regarding your points were valid but the concern is the topic. >> we need to get on all cylinders and not suppress what is to our advantage we leave the world in drug discovery with the cost of getting bad drug to market.

but that is across the spectrum of economic activity i didn't feel the room go away from me but the next disruptive technology from someone's garage not from the department of energy. they could be someone will figure out nuclear waste to have the nuclear plant in a timeframe and the cost is the best renewable source of energy in the world i am not smart enough to know but that happens at the fastest pace. so i appreciate the good

words here is what i love about new hampshire. they will tell you it is an interesting conversation this is the way that some people campaigned. that is important that you sustain it. >> i work with the community development finance authority in something you said earlier not only does it make the project more expensive but how can you get that dead without making them more burdensome? >> because there was a state and federal initiative that

was headed up from the people outside of washington that laid out a blueprint we give money but we haven't added all sorts of rules to make the point obsolete whether department of transportation money if you didn't have the federalists so to build infrastructure in the united states we could not build the interstate highway system

they care about their constituents if you don't have a bunch of rules, but they don't have the interest of their constituents at heart. and with what grants for medicaid to create a a

relatively fixed cost. >> think of how much innovation to take place but it is the same for 1975. one but is there multiple

layers to consider there is the threat of nuclear proliferation. ted is a serious question with a there is a regime change but this saudis and persian gulf countries are trying to build the same capability that is on the threshold of having. lead the islamic radical terrorism is the most immediate threat.

with the lessons of history we cannot be the world's policeman and. but we have to do this. and no one has the capabilities of the united states. and then we have avoided that is created the caliphate the size of indiana the release 30,000 battle tested terrorist organized to destroy our freedom in no our weakness and will attack every possible way. it is a warrior on us. that is the highest priority >> what case witty make the americans trust you to solve the problem. >> neece to be a

comprehensive strategy to do that. i've got to speak at the reagan library with a full-blown strategy even before the tragedy in california with what those were challenges are to act on that governors have to make tough decisions and we made a lot of those just by the nature of our state including commander in chief of the florida national guard but they ran that out of the great prison -- of two grade. with 14 hour days 95-degree heat police officers and firemen that did this because they love their country and i provided

support for every one of those in every way possible. but i have an understanding with the front row seat of what it is to be commander in chief with the seriousness of the job. it is in a job to take lightly and in the political environment to recognize the constraints so think about the president's problems the redline is a disaster. i'm sure that was indicted by the national security council.

and russia was a regional power to be invaded by the russians. to make his administration look different. as a privet to asia. but that doesn't help all leader has to lead. and i have those skills and the life experience to be a commander in chief not the agitator in chief. >> aside from wanting to be president what is on your bucket list? >> with the pd i have another story. this one guy did not know me trying to find something in common and i found on

wikipedia he was an avid rock climber and it was not true. [laughter] but where people have idle time actually they put things into the site to see how long that they can stay there. [laughter] to get bonus points or something i had to admit. i am from miami. the largest militant is trash. [laughter] i will not climb that. i have seen almost everything around the world. i want to see my grand kids growing up. i love them. it is cool to see them grow up.

i cannot wait for georges high-school graduation. it will be more meaningful for read the second time around. but i think i missed the cool parts of the children's development. >> i like sunday sunday. cooking and the girl he george has a great imagination. to of the grand kids are an austin. and i get to be with my grandkids. [laughter] i think they care how i am doing in new hampshire. [laughter] >> you are looking to win the republican nomination. in order to do so a strong republican base.

sielaff to identify the republican voters. i am a little concerned republican party is pulling away from the young voters what did you think they're doing to attract young voters? >> the republican party is doing better with the technology that is so important for a the millenials i think the message is better if we talk about the future to be made significantly better but we have these barriers you will see it and be more

optimistic. and they can play a constructive role. and they have to recognize the of big elephant in the room but if we do nothing the power of compounding overwhelms anything. that discretionary spending will be gutted. with medicare and medicaid and obamacare and social security with the unfunded liability in the trillions of dollars. that will be harder and harder to do that.

that is the one way we should be able to connect we'll give you an opportunity to fix this i don't know that will resonate but it should if you think about it because without fixing that you are left with the bill that cannot be paid. we have 300 different college campus organizations that my sons are heading up politically the on the issue aside to focus on the economy and the government that is broken. >> if you were to give a

toast on the journey ahead for something to keep in mind what would you say? >> embrace the unforeseen be alive. don't worry about it being planned out. embrace it because it is an extraordinary time to be your age showed rather be your age and mine. if i could take my life experience and start over again this is the most amazing time to be alive so that is my hope for you they believe that. you can make it happen. >> on behalf of the panel thank you to bank of america thank you for pulling this together and most importantly thank you to jeb bush to be here today.

>> [inaudible conversations] >> i actually grab there. -- grew up there. my parents used to walk down there all the time. >> it is beautiful. you are living in a national estuary.

>> thanks for coming. >> can i get a picture? >> of course, . >> thanks for coming. of course, you can. the go to school here? tsa dos. >> are you a senior? >> i am a freshman. >> you have a while to go. [laughter] >> take care.

>> happy holidays. >> my question was with activism in service what are your thoughts to bring that spirit with that optimism back? >> one way to do that with is with stealing a crystal not to mandate public service but to make it easier for people and once

you do that is a lifelong pursuit. like teach for america you end up becoming a servant your entire life. we are a self-governing people. with all of the freedoms that we have are free from government and that works when we can govern ourselves when you have people that are actively involved to improve the lives of others. >> what would you put out there? >> hopefully i will talk to a crystal i haven't had a chance to meet with him yet.

>>. >> what is service nation? been a career built around national health care. >>. >> who is the ceo? >> this makes a lot of sense. with. >> there is so much joy that comes from having a servant's part. and all things to get the same benefits in life.

>> how are we doing? pretty good. >>. >> how are you? that is a nice name. >> what is happening? >>. >> nice to meet you. >> we have been waiting very patiently.

that is yours? it looks better. >> thank you for coming. >> right here. >> good luck. very much more relatable.

>> [inaudible conversations] >> i hope people realize what you are trying to say. >> my son will graduate from west point. with higher growth the rising incomes. it can build factories of one-tenth of the workers but

you're not generate the jobs that we may need to generate. >> good to me you. >> there are real people behind the camera. >>. >> happy holidays. >> i was not even born yet.

one. >> bid did not take the picture. take care. >> thanks for coming today. the work place like the department of labor. in the workforce is called something similar. but the job training stuff.

>> i am looking for your reaction with donald trump's bernanke is right it will not help the security of israel or the united states. to push away the allies said necessary to destroy a isis to bring about security he is not a serious person or a serious candidate he makes the task a lot harder. >> he makes that conflict harder? >> it will never be solved until the palestinians themselves recognize the right to exist of a jewish state. until they do that no need to begin a conversation but they also make it harder and the terrorism has to be