boulevard. >> what is it? >> historical black neighborhood. like i talk in my book, black folks when we first moved here everybody lived in over tp town and started living in liberty city where i95 was cut in the middle. my dad was the first persons to tur chase the home. when he had showed up he gave a deposit. we didn't know it was we were selling to the black guy. per

>> what is two live crew? >> it's a group and said said, we want to do songs that we will get paid. i will help you but you help me out because i want you to do one of my songs that i created in my dances and they did a song called throw the deep. remember that song. it was a great dance. >> host: throw the deep. rap music? >> guest: from there we started and creating hip-hop in the

south. >> host: what's the relationship between 2 live crew and the scream court? >> guest: 2 live crew ended up in the supreme court. it was i think that was -- that had to happen that was destined to happen. hip-hop was under attack it, by you name it, dan quale, governor martínez, federal judge in broward county. everybody was after hip-hop at the time. >> host: was it a first amendment case? >> guest: it was whether parity case that i talk in the book. one that i obviously went to the supreme court but i think the most important case was that my lawyer got overturned in the

fourth district court of appeals. the court of appeals where it was the obscenity case whether this music was considered obscene. judge gonzález said it was obscene. the music that you hear right now would have been totally different. >> host: you were worth about $100 million? >> guest: yes, yes. >> host: did the money come easy? >> guest: not really. it was tough. more money mo problems, the more money, the more problems. i try to hire good competent people, good tax attorneys as i built my corporation but when you're reading a book, those of

people, they stole from me in my opinion, so it was -- it was difficult to make the money but it was hard to keep the money. >> host: was your work as part of 2 live crew, was it graphic? >> guest: my work was not graphic. i think the works of the other members could have been considered right, i defended their rights as well as free speech. when you list the records and lyrics that i wrote, but i was the producer and i take full responsibility. >> host: one simple reason why hip-hop historians, do i tenant give me the credit like uncle

luke. >> guest: pretty much rocket scientists, cum laudes, pilots. i was the young guy t baby of the family, looked around and heard the boys call back complained about money. particularly my third-oldest brother when he was in the navy. i don't think he got any lead because he was trying to get a pilot. i ended up from djing becoming uncle luke. it was original luke scottwalker then he sued me skywalker

records. i had to be uncle luke. i look out for my community and i do -- i try and do the right thing for everybody locally. >> host: was uncle luke a stage persona in a sense? >> guest: yes, yes, no doubt about it. you have luke campbell and then you have uncle luke. luke on stage was a guy that gave people what they wanted. we thought that it was our responsibility to go out and give people what they want other than going into a concert and situation and toning it down at that time, at that particular time. as more as the government pushed back, we pushed back and the records got a little more graphic than we wanted them to become but we were in this thing call fighting for free speech.

>> the lyrics had never been really about the lyric. doing the same thing as white artists did without censorship. at that particular time, again, being the first hip-hop label in the south and only operated myself, i looked at artists like leroy skillet. those guys were already on records. they were affiliated with major record labels. they were not getting their records taken off the shelf. so i looked at it from the standpoint i'm a hip-hop artist, own my own record company. i'm an easy target for the federal government. if i have to take all my own to

fight for free speech, then i will do that. >> host: what are you doing today? >> guest: coaching football. we do ginning lings for commercials, whether it's commercials or movies, i'm helping my wife out with her nfl agency and restaurants. i'm just happy, you know, helping out with the community. >> host: how did you get involved being a defensive coordinator for miami high school? >> guest: my passion has always been playing football. i started coaching and i did and i ended up coaching and now i

have great players in the nfl, davis, williams, devonteefreeman who is going to beat up your redskins, we have quite in the league now. the most important ones are the ones that came out of my program. one of the most important areas, hardiman. i'm happy about all of them. let's bring it back to liberty city. your trajectory, what you went through? what's your role in liberty city? >> guest: stay here and just do everything i possibly can to help the people, you know, who do not have a voice. i mean, when i look at politics in liberty city in miami in general, other than kion, all the black elected officials are owned by special interest groups that don't have any interest of the african-american people here

in south florida, so you know, my job is to, you know, stay here and fight, you know, and just fight for them and fight for kids in schools and fight for jobs, you know, unemployment rate is horrible, you know, fight for black communities like overtown and liberty city because every day is a challenge of taking their property and cutting condos on their property every day here. that's one of the reasons i moved to hollywood when i did movies and moved to new york when i was successful in the industry and stayed there and fought for my people. >> host: you talk about the fact that you ran for mayor? >> guest: yes, i came in fourth place, i came first place with all the living voters. you have dead voters, you know

absentees. the dead people i came in fourth. >> host: 11% of the vote overall. you also talk about how you look at it as one miami. >> guest: yes. >> host: has that in anyway been achieved? >> guest: it's still a trouble. the people of miami want miami. there's not a day that goes by that some of my latin friends or jewish friends, anglo friends that say what can we do. it's more politician who is are voled by the special interest groups they are putting money into their pockets. those are the ones that try to create the diversion and separation of our town, but we

have some great people here in miami and the people want one miami. i think that's going to be my slogan, one miami. >> host: you talk about the explicit lyrics on cd's, you're partially responsible. it wasn't put on until white kids started buying hip-hop music. >> guest: i had to figure why i was going through all the -- i started thinking about it. hip-hop has been wrong.

it's crossing over and rock and roll is being phased out. a lot of white kids are listening to the music and that's when controversy came. that's when ice t we ended up in al gore's wife, top 10 of bad guys. at the time i figured that it was all about. it was all about white kids getting the music, but when i looked at it i said, this is important to fight for this because white kid should listen to struggles of black kids because hip-hop music is modern age blues like tupac and flo rider. when there's a lot of kids right now that they say f the police

and some great stories in there in those periods of times when they get shot and killed. the book is so important for people to read from a historical standpoint. >> guest: explicit lyrics inside. the book of luke, my fight for truth, justice and liberty city. luter campbell is the author. >> and now i'm zlieghted to introduce tonight's author. sonia purnell is a political reporter and an author of just

borris. her work has appeared in the guardian, telegraph and the economist, tonight at harvard bookstore he joins us to present her new book clementine, the life of mrs. winston churchill. victory in world war ii would have been impossible without her . she guided her husband's career and phrases both scrupulous and fair minded, has done proud of the strong wills an ambition woman who churchill's political career would have been a washout. we are very happy to welcome the author