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tv   Interview with Luther Campbell  CSPAN  January 18, 2016 4:45pm-5:01pm EST

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two after he brought the last american troops home they could take oversight -- over the south vietnam area without fear of him intervening. that is another shocking fact people can learn from the nixon tapes and documents that have been declassified. >> this information is from the tapes that have been recently declassified? >> yes, it is from the bulk of the richard nixon tapes. most of the tapes people heard came out decades ago during the watergate trials and deal with nixon's domestic abuse of power. in more recent decades, the national archives declassified the bulk of the nixon case. more than 2500 hours of them. they deal with everything including foreign policy. we are used to thinking of nixon as a great statesman who is also
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a bit of a rogue. but the tapes show there is one nixon that foreign policy and domestic policy are both geared toward nixon's domestic, political triumphs. >> you are at the miller center at uva with presidential research. when you were putting together this book what did you have to do get this information? how do you access the nixon tapes? >> the miller center has put all of the nixon tapes in our possession online so that everyone can hear them. everyone can check my work. what i had to do to access them was the same thing as what everybody else did and that is going to the miller center website. check in the nixon tapes in the search and all are available for free to download. along can mark silverstone and keri matthews we transcribed the
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tapes and made them either. so you can read the transcript and see if i am presenting the evidence fairly. >> what is the website? >> millercenter.org. fatal/politics.org for the book. >> his book is published by the university of virginia press. fatal politics, the nixon tapes, the vietnam war and the casualty of death. >> is there a book you are interested in? send us an e-mail, tweet us or post a comment on our wall --
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facebook.com/booktv. >> we are joined by author luther cambell. here is the book. the fight for truth, justice and liberty city. mr. campbell, what and where is liberty city? >> liberty city is probably about ten minutes away from here on 58th and 10th avenue right in the heart of where i was raised at. 60 second martin luther king boulevard. >> what is it? >> what is it? it is a historical black neighborhood. like i talk about in my book it is a neighborhood in which black folks when we first moved and came here everybody lived in o-town and we started moving to liberty city when i-95 was cut right through the african-american community here in south florida. so my dad, like i talk about in my book, was one of the first
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persons to purchase a home there. they didn't know he was a black guy. when he showed up he had already given the deposit and at the end of the day they were like oh, we didn't know we were selling to a black guy. he was one of the first guys that moved to liberty city. >> the deposit went from $500 to $2500 overnight? >> exactly. >> what is two live crew? >> that is a group i got into after starting out djing. i said i will help you out
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because i want you to do a song based on the dance i created. they did a song called photo deep. remember that song? it was a great dance. >> throw the d? >> yeah, throw the d. it went from that point to doing an album. >> it was rap music? >> yeah, the first hip hop song done in the south. we started and created hip hop in the south. >> what is the relationship between two live crew and the supreme court? >> two live crew and the supreme court. two live crew ended up getting me into the supreme court in my case between roads and myself. you know, it was something i think that had to happen. it was destined to happen because hip hop was under attack by you name it. dan quell, the governor of the state of florida, you know, my
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friend judge gonzalez a federal judge here, and everybody was after hip hop. >> was it a first amendment case? >> yes, it was whether parody was protected by the first amendment. there were two cases i talk about in the book. one, obviously the one i went to the supreme court with. but i think the most important case was the one my lawyer got overturned into the fourth district court of of appeals. the court of appeals where it was the obscene case where if the music was considered obscene. the judge originally said the music was obscene and we had to get it overturned because if we didn't the music you hear today would be totally different. >> luther campbell you write at one point you were worth about $100 million. >> yes.
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>> did the money come easy? >> well, did the money come easy? not really. it was tough. i think just like biggy smalls song says more money more problems. the more i got money the more problems i got. i tried to do the recognize thing and be smart and hire good tax attorneys and attorneys and general counsel as i built my corporation. but when you read in the book, most of those people, the intelligent smart people stole from me. it was difficult to make money but it was hard to keep the money. >> was your work as part of two-live crew was it graphic? >> my work was not graphic. i think the works of the other members could have been considered as graphic but i defended their right to their a
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artistical values as well as free speech. when you listen to the record and the lyrics i wrote it was different. i was a producer and took full responsibility for everything put out and given out to the general public. >> from your book, the book of luke, at the end of the day there is one simple reason why hip hop historians and journalist don't give me the credit i am due and it is because of uncle luke. who is uncle luke? >> you know my mom raised luther campbell. my mom and dad. just like all of my other four brothers. all of these guys are rocket scientist and navy pilots and comp controllers of plants. i was the baby in the family who looked around and heard those guys complaining about money they needed for college or whether they were in the armed services and felt like they were
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being mistreated because they were black particularly my third oldest brother when he was in the navy. i don't think he got any leave because he was trying to be a pilot. and i ended up from djing and becoming uncle luke. uncle luke, it was originally luke skywalker. then i was sued and the record company was luke sky walker record and i was the dj luke sky walker so i had to morph into uncle luke. i look out for my community and try to do the right thing for everyone locally. >> was uncle luke a stage persona? >> yeah, no doubt. you have luther campbell, luke, and uncle luke.
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luke on stage was a guy that gave the people what they wanted. you know, if you listen to a record, we thought it was our responsibility to go out and give people what they want other than going into the a concert or situation and toning it down at that particular time. and all of the records, as the government pushed back, we pushed back and the records got a little more aggressive than we wanted them to become. but we were in this thing called and the records got a little more graphic. then we wanted to become but we are in this thing called fighting for free speech spent the fight for two live crew speaks blessed lyri literature e was never really about the lyrics. it'd been about the principle of fighting for the right to do the same thing white artist did without legal harassment and censorship. >> when i look at it, again, i
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only operate in myself. i look at artists like lee were still at, and esther, you name it, these guys, then you looked at people like andrew dice clay. those guys already on record, i'll really a philly with major record labels. they were not getting their records take it off the shelf. so i look down from the standpoint of saying i'm a hip-hop artist can't i own my own record company, i am an easy target for the government and i just said look, if of god to take all my irony -- my money i earn to buy for free speech for hip-hop then i will do that. >> what are you doing today? >> there's in restaurants. i'm just happy. doing -- you know, helping
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out in the community. >> host: how did you get involved being a defensive coordinator? >> guest: my passion has always been football. i ended up going to miami beach i playing football. when my career dies down i said i would go back to my youth program that i found it along with sam johnson 25 years ago and start coaching , and i did. now i have great players in the nfl. it's an e-mail come on just happy. the most important one is the one that came out of my program, a certain commissioner.
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i am happy about all of them. >> let's bring it all back to liberty city, your career of the trajectory, what you went through, what is your involvement with liberty city now? >> guest: to try and stay here and do everything i possibly can to help the people who do not have a voice. when i look at politics in liberty city in miami in general, black officials are owned by special interest groups that don't have the interest of the african-american people here in south florida. my job is to stay here and fight, fight for them, fight for kids in schools, fight for jobs. the unemployment rate is horrible. fight for blighted communities because every day is a challenge of taking their property and putting condos on the property every day here. so that's one of the reasons
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i'm happy that i didn't move to hollywood bows making movies and moved to new york and i was successful the music industry. >> guest: your talk in your book about the fact that you ran for mayor that one point. how did you do? >> guest: i came in 4th place. i came in 1st place with a living voters and 4th place with all the dead voters. absentee. the living people i came in 1st place and the dead people i came in 4th. >> host: 11 percent of the vote overall. he also talk about how you look at it. has that in any way been achieved? >> guest: it has been a struggle. from the outside looking in the people of miami want one
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miami. there is not a day that that goes by the sum of my latin friends or jewish friends or anglo friends, you name it, come to me and say what can we do to help these communities are schools. not a day that goes by -- it's much more than politicians who are controlled by special interest groups. in all actuality putting money into their pockets, those the ones that try to create this separation, but we have some great people here in miami and the people want one miami.miami. i think that is going to be my slogan going forward. >> host: in your book you talk about the fact that the explicit lyrics label that is put on a lot of problems and cds, you are partially responsible for that.

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