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i actually peaked in one day and never thought i would be standing here and having an opportunity to speak to. it just really illustrates and underscores the amazing life and journey that i have had in my lifetime as a first-quarter freshman in ohio state. i wrote a letter to the president of the united states basically inviting myself down there for a chat. it was carried by the president of ohio state who i had met just a short time earlier. he wrote me back and invited me to a little meeting in the overall office. i remember calling home and my mother answered the phone and i said mom i'm a first-quarter freshman at ohio state. my mother carried mail and i said i need an airline ticket
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because the president of the united state would like to have a meeting in the oval office. my mom was shouting to my dad and the other end, pick up the phone, there's something wrong with my kid. >> i've had a couple jobs in washington. lightning continued to strike me. then when i graduated from ohio state, i went looking for a job and couldn't find one. the last place i ever thought i would be hired is in the legislature. i walked in and set i want to go to law school but i want to use my brain. is there anything i can do? >> he said oh yes, you could come here and write resolutions. i said great. i went in on a friday and they had a job opening for the aid to the ohio senators. i explained that i had been in washington and they hired me and i became an aide. after a short period of time, after writing bills for members, i thought i could do this myself so i told my friends i was gonna
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quit my job and run for the ohio senate. one of them dropped his coke out of his kate hand. he said you can't do that. i said just watch. i ran against an incumbent and i was totally unknown. i started when i was about 24 1/2 and a half years old. i was the youngest person ever elected to the iowa senate. i became a legislator. i loved it. i was there for four years. in the third year that i was there, the public republicans won the majority but the democrats still controlled the house. that's when i learned that it's better to get along then to fight. it's better to solve problem than to spend your time arguing with one another because what's the point of service if you don't achieve anything. then after four years -- [applause]. thank you. then after for years because of my efforts, they meandered me
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out of my seat. i had an opportunity to run against an older fellow who was really a mentor of mine. i decided to run for congress. i started that i guess when i was about 29 and at the ripe old aid of age of 30i was elected to the house of representatives. i remember that night with my mom and dad being there and they said what are you doing. it was amazing. so, you no, my first meeting by the way in the ohio senate, we had a committee meeting. i had been in for a couple weeks. i went to the meeting and the republican, who is is in the minority, starts offering and amendment. they asked if there was a second. i didn't even understand what the amendment was and the person who was more senior than me didn't second it either.
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nobody ever second it so the motion died in the committee was adjourned. this guy turns to me, i'll never forget it, he had a beat red face and he said why didn't you second my amendment. i set i didn't understand what it was pretty he said young man, you you better learn to fly by the seat of your pants, and i've been doing it ever since since i got that advice. i wanted to tell you this, i believe in running our country from the bottom up. coming from a place where if the wind blew the wrong way we found ourselves out of work. i've always believed that it auto come to where the people live that we ought to run our country from the bottom up. i always felt if tax cuts were an issue of putting power and people's pockets in the family and in the neighborhood. i always believed that was the most important thing we can do in terms of empowering people. then i have a whole program here. i was the chief architect and
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spend ten years of my life fighting for. i was in a interrupted by congressman tim petty. he was given an opportunity to cut spending and wanted to develop a coalition. and we did. we offered it on the floor of the united states and we lost by four votes. it was an amazing effort and proof of republicans and democrats working together to take a penny out of every dollar. who thought us? republicans, democrats, everybody, but we came close. soon after that, we got to a balance budget. my efforts to try to transfer power, money and influence out of washington was halted because of a president with a different philosophy. what would i do if i were
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president? we could get a lot of power in a short amount of time. you'd get welfare. in our state right now, we are trying to say that if somebody wants to get some education training to meet their 30 hour work requirement provided for under the federal welfare law, that i have to go to washington and ask for permission to get somebody train so they can get the skills to get out of welfare. why am i going to washington to ask somebody what our welfare rules and ethics are to be in the state of ohio? you give the program back here and you write the rule. i'd make one recommendation. the recommendation is bring businesses into the welfare office so when people get help, they also have somebody there that tells them, if you get trained, you can get a job working for me. i think it's really critical but welfare should reside with all of you. education. there are 104 education programs
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i would put them in four buckets. i would send them back here, including one bucket that would cover special education. that's an issue that you all struggle with every single session. you ought to have the power of education here. one thing i would say, that is we have had net education system that has trained people for jobs at best. when we were kids, many of us, not all of us, we didn't have to get that great of an educational we can graduate and get a job at us deal company or chemical company or a cement factory and we could make a decent living. that was the middle class. many of those jobs are gone in our education system must train people for the job for today and tomorrow. it will require dramatic change in the way the education work. the president and the governor can't fix it. it goes all the way down to the
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school board and community level. we have to in power them and hold them accountable for the skills that our children are able to receive. job training. right now you have to basically lose a job before they will train you for another job. i fight to give you the job-training money. my ideas why do we train you while you are on the job so you don't lose your job so we don't have to train you for a job that doesn't exist. let's give you the job-training money and you use it and figure out what to do with it right here in the state of new hampshire. transportation, how it works now, we we pay federal gas tax. we spend the money to washington and devise their own plan and sends less back to us. when i suggest, send a couple pennies down to washington to maintain the interstate. then we keep the rest of the money. let them do with it what they want to do with it. the idea that you cannot toll a
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road where there's a dime of government money in it, that's absurd. the idea of tolling makes sense. i would tell you, that dollar or two would go a lot father so let's stop that nonsense. who's against it? the committee. who else? the special interests that want to get their snouts to the trough. also, medicaid. the program for the poor and the disabled. i want to commend you. we cannot turn our back on the mentally ill, the drug addicted, addicted, the working poor, the developmentally disabled. we are all made in the image of the lord. i took $14 billion back to ohio
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from washington to meet our challenges. lives have been saved. people have hope. you did it here. i want to compliment you for it. we took medicaid from 10% down to two and a half% without cutting one benefit or taking one person off. the single biggest changes we let mom and dad stay in their own home rather than being forced into a nursing home, where they are healthier, happier and more independent. we had to be down the nursing home lobby but we were able to get it done. just so you no, i inherited inherited the deficit of $8 billion, only almost 20% of our operating budget. we are now running at a surplus.
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we've cut taxes more than anywhere else in america. our credit is rocksolid. our outlook is good and we are up 385,000 jobs. we have diversified our economy. why? because we have been bold. the legislative leaders have been traffic. we've accomplished a lot. in addition, i think you should control the program of the poor and i would get the medicaid dollars back with the only provision that you spend it on what it's designed for, not to pave highways. spend it and be creative. i think that is absolutely perfect.
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i want to tell you about the struggle we all face. for six years i have been working on this drug issue. before i was sworn in as governor, i met some ladies who came to see me who all had pictures of their children in frame and they all had one thing in common. every one of their children were dead from a drug overdose. six years ago, we started closing down pill mills and taking doctor licenses and locking up the drug dealer. we now move to protocol that i would encourage you to look at that would describe with the proper allocation of prescription drugs are, if you have acute pain or chronic pain. we also have programs in the school. the pitiful thing about running for president and being here and having our people share ideas with your people, just last night i picked up a great idea, and that's how you are going to say that the health education program in new hampshire schools are going to require education about the drug issue. i called by folks last night and i said this looks like such a great issue. it's a great way, we have to be
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in the classroom. here's what i want to leave you with on this issue. republican and democrat doesn't matter on this, does it? our children are dying. our people are risk. it's okay, i can fight with the best of them. sometimes i will have a strong opinion on something. doesn't it feel great when we as human beings have the privilege of serving in the legislative or executive role when we come together as people, as moms and as dad and can solve a problem. then you leave the chamber. you get in your car and your spouse's what did you do and you can tell them that you did something great.
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you did something great for the boys and girls who live in the state because you work together. we can have our differences, ladies and gentlemen. i've i've been in this business a very long time. when we are citizens of new hampshire more than we are a political party or philosophy, when we we work together to solve problems, we leave a legacy that our children and our grandchildren in your own family's will remember. i'm coming back here. i'm going to share with you the things i learn all over the country when i'm president. it's the job of the president to share, believe, to inspire and be patient, to work together and to share the great ideas because the state of america are the laboratories of innovation and
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change and excitement. it's a privilege for me to be before you today. god bless you. good luck, and thank you. [applause]. eli buddy i'm working >> thank you very much. how completely fabulous to be in the house dominated by republicans. that's okay. let me say this. i just got done with my state of the state in a house controlled by democrat. this has been fun for me. thank you for giving me the opportunity to come before you today and speak about the challenges that we face. i come to you from the
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perspective that we understand the challenges and opportunities you face every day. those challenges and opportunities are made both more difficult to deal with him a challenge side and less advantageous on the opportunity side when the government gets more and more involved in what you were elected to do and to take care of those you were elected to represent every day. i bring the perspective of a governor for six years in a state which i lovingly call unruly to govern. the government makes it more difficult to do that. when we look at what the biggest problems are that we are facing, we face similar problems. i was happy that our
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administration works with the folks in the senate and the house here on some of the bills you were just discussing regarding our drug addiction problem. we started on this three years ago in new jersey. three years ago i said we needed to change our criminal justice system. three years ago i said we needed to move from an attitude of incarceration to an attitude of treatment. too many people were dying. young and middle-aged, who were nothing more than victims of a disease. the conversations we need to be having as representatives is to talk about this issue openly and honestly so that we can lower the stigma that is attached to this abuse. i've spoken many times about my own mother who was addicted to nicotine.
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she started smoking when she was 13 years old. back in 1948, no one knew there was anything wrong with smoking. in fact, it was the cool thing to do. she got addicted. if you doubt for a second it was an addiction, i would like you to go back in time to watch all the effort she went through over the years to quit smoking. she would chew gum, the patches, she even tried hypnosis one time, which was great for us because it mellowed her out a little bit. we enjoyed that. it didn't help the smoking, so she stopped. at 71 years old, after 55 years of smoking, she was almost, inevitably, diagnosed she was almost, inevitably, diagnosed with lung cancer. when that happened, no one said to me that we shouldn't treat her. no one said she's getting what she deserves. she made a choice. no treatment for her, just let her die.
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no one said that. nor was i ashamed to tell anyone that my mom had lung cancer and had been a smoker. i didn't think it reflected upon me as a son or my father as a husband or my mother as a woman. i wonder if i would've felt the same way if my mother was addicted to heroin. given the stigma attached to this disease, we don't talk about it. people say this is a choice and people are getting what they deserve. we do deny treatment to folks who need it. that's wrong. i honestly believe the only way it's going to changes by saying to those folks, listen, if you're committing violent acts in dealing drugs in our neighborhood and poisoning our families, there should always be a jail cell available for that
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person. but for the nonviolent, non-dealing addict who is struggling with the disease, putting disease, putting them in jail cost the tax. too much for a yield that is much too small. they come back out as attics and they commit more and more crimes and go back in prison. we wonder why the cycle continues. it continues because were ignoring the real problem. the real problem is this, we need to stop making moral judgments on their choices. we need to start trying to help them restore their lives. that means that not everyone can be treated, and i know they can't. every person that we treat successfully, every one of them is returned home to be a better mother or father, a better sister or brother, a better husband or wife. we can't calculate what the
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economists do and what that means for our economy and our state, but we know that rebuilding families makes us a better, more just, stronger society. so in new jersey, three years ago, we said no longer any first time non- violent, non- dealing offenders will go to prison. they will go to rehab. what has happened in those three years? are crime rate has gone down 20% and our prison population has gone down 10%. we recently announced the closing of a state prison. were not building new prisons, were closing prisons. we are taking that prison -- [applause]. what are we doing? were taking that prison and we are now rehabilitating it and turning it into a full-time drug
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treatment center where we will be able to take up to 700 inmates who have drug problems in other areas of the criminal justice system and bring them there. it will be a certified drug treatment facility that will allow those folks to come back out with the tools they need to reclaim their lives. [applause]. that's the kind of thing we should be doing. we know. we know every life we save is money we also save the taxpayers too. it costs us $49000 a year and new jersey to incarcerate someone. it cost us $24000 a year to give someone a year of full-time inpatient treatment. we can treat to people for every one person we incarcerate. even if you just care about the numbers, it's the smart thing to do. but it's much more than that. i'm pro-life, and i believe every life is precious. [applause].
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we focus too much of the time on the nine-month in the room. it's an important nine months, but there's an easier nine months that has done nothing yet to disappoint us until they get out. life gets much more complicated after the first nine months. there's not a person in this chamber who has not made a choice at some point that you would not like to reverse. we are just fortunate in this room that that choice didn't involve drugs. they are for the grace of god, and we need to bring that to our
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positions. we need a president who will stand behind the seal and deliver the message to the american people. lowering the stigma and opening people's minds and hearts. the child in the womb is the precious, precious precious life but so is the 16-year-old girl whose addicted to heroin and lying on the floor of the county lockup. her life is a giftfrom god. so is the 42-year-old lawyer addicted to painkillers. he can't keep his job or maintain his family. his life is a precious gift from god too. we need to stop judging in this area as much as we need to start caring. we need to embrace those people and give them the treatment they need. it will not work for everyone. but every life we save, every life we save will be an act that we performed in the name of the
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people we represent and in the name of the god that we worship. so there's lots of different things i could talk to about today. nothing is more important than saving the lives of our young people and the older ones too. there's lots of important issues that you discuss in this chamber and decisions that you make for the people you represent and i commend you for it, but i suspect the families of new hampshire, nothing will be more important than to give them hope. treatment is hope. i belonged, for years, to the ward of an adolescent's drug treatment program in new jersey. when the priest to ran that
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facility first asked me to be on the board and i was in my mid-30s, i said i have so many things, i'm a practicing lawyer and involved with lots of things. why should i do this? he said just come and see the place and you will understand. i went up and i watched and i watched what was going on. he saw the change of my expression while i was watching. he came up behind me and he put his hands on my shoulders. he whispered in my ear and said see, i told you you'd want to be here. it's a special special place. it's where miracles happen on earth. nothing can be more important. we know it could be our children. we know it could be our husband or wife. we know siblings could be our brother or sister.
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be talking about this. we need to be accomplishing things. here's the only pitch i will make to you about myself. we've done it. we've done it in new jersey. this year, was the first time in four years that we have seen drug overdose deaths the klein. decline. we have trained every law enforcement officer and set up recovering.
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when i get to the white house, no one will have to tell me how to deal with this issue. were quite frankly the other issue, that will come before me as an executive. that type of experience is very useful. to sit in that chair on the first day and not spin around and say gee, look, i'm president. to sit to sit there and say the chair feels familiar. it's not the same one i had, but it's familiar. i know how the decisions will come in. they will come in fast and furious. they will come without a yes or no answer and they will come without a key sheet that you can look at to decide what you need to do. we need to elect someone who has done this before. someone who can lead our country in a new and different direction.
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opiate addiction is just one issue we need to address, but it's an important one. if we don't save the lives of our children, we put our country at great peril in the future. so, i cannot, on the half of myself and my wife thank you enough for the courtesy and kindness and openness and welcoming attitude that you and all the people of new hampshire have shown to us over the last nine months. you're not getting rid of us anytime soon. we will continue to ask for an open mind and an open heart in consideration for your support. our country needs to move in a new path and together we can make that new path happen. all of us, no matter where we live and no matter where we came from. thank you very much for your time today. thank you for attention and thank you for the new hampshire primary. we appreciate it.
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[applause]. >> thank you. i want to thank each of you for both sides of the aisle to speak your today. this is a special privilege for me. as some of you may know, i spent nine years in the florida state house, including two as as speaker. i feel real comfortable up here. i had many of my best memories in public service happened during that time. perhaps there's no better example of what our founders intended our democracy to look like then ray here in this chamber. this is the largest state legislature in the country, which means each of you represent literally just a few thousand people. many of these people you know not from campaigns, you know them from childhood or the checkout line at the grocery store, from church or school board meetings. you lived and work and spent most of your time with them. your experiences out there shaped your work in here.
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that's why the new hampshire house is truly a citizen legislature. it is the citizens house. as close as the government is to the people, the better it works. i've had the chance to participate in town hall meetings and it's important to remember how rare this variety of democracy is. the idea that people can govern their own affairs at the citizen level, this idea is just a few centuries old. most who have ever lived have had their affairs dictated by leaders they didn't even choose. leaders who removed from the problems they faced every day. it's important to remember that the system is fragile. they have the tendency to coalesce and centralize and expand. it requires a conscious effort between washington and our state. when those efforts fail and hits
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chambers like this even before it hits our own people. in the florida house we felt the growing power of washington every day. the way it forced its way into more and more of our decisions. the way washington pastel mandates and made us spend time dealing with what it wanted us to deal with rather than what floridians wanted. washington's growth in stature in size has been the fault of both parties and more than just one president. it is a truth that the rate of growth has increased under our current president. i'd need more than 15 minutes to discuss the shortcomings of our president but i'd be remiss if i failed to mention that we are gathered here today on the seventh anniversary of president obama's inauguration and this provides an opportunity to pause and take stock of the change
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this president promised. we know he is not a bad person. it is my belief that he misunderstands our country. his views of our federal government as a tool, not to protect our rights but as a tool compelled to certain outcomes he deems fair and just, to control control our economy, healthcare, decisions and even the weather. his intentions may have been good, but the impact of his presidency haven't been. part of the reason that washington is too far removed from the people it serves, the bigger it grows, the more power that comes away from state and local leaders and it's placed in the hands of unelected bureaucrats. common core is a perfect example. as speaker, i was proud to modernize florida's curriculum from the bottom up by working with parents, teachers and school board members.
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local leaders like you are always better suited to this task then bureaucrats, in part, because you are more accountable. if you don't believe me, try getting one of those bureaucrats on the phone. we are often motivated by the wrong things. while your work in this chamber is public service for which you are only paid hundred dollars a year, government has become an industry in washington. that industry is booming. thirteen of the richest counties in america form a circle around washington d.c. so often we expect city politicians and lobbyists and special interest groups to understand better than you how opiate abuse is impacting your state or what a struggling family in nashville is up against. or what will help a single mom
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rise from her circumstances. calls for a limited government are not calls for a heartless government. washington is simply not the best place to find it. when our politics tape place far away, politics become impersonal when it becomes impersonal, the answer to every problem becomes the bank. to raise attacks or create a one-size-fits-all federal program. these things make government bigger. but it does not make it better. i know because i've witnessed it firsthand in congress on the state level, innovative ideas are informed by local experiences.
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they're adjusted to regional needs. as a result, the effects can be positive and profound. once again, i know because i've seen it. before i became the speaker of the florida house, i held idea meetings. we compiled a book called 100 innovative ideas from florida's future. many of these ideas that came from our people became law. i felt the joy of extending to autistic children the special care and attention they need. i saw brighter futures for the most of poverty neighborhoods. i witnessed the tangible sense of relief when i passed a law that protected families and businesses from having their property seized through eminent domain. washington quantifies its successes through dollar amounts. do you feel their successes in
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your neighbor's life and in your child's school ended near household budget? i will trust you to choose the curriculum and education standards that are right for your children. i know you will work with parents and local schools to do so. i will trust you with and nations antipoverty funds so that whether it's an emphasis on higher education or substance abuse treatment or targeted job training, you can direct the funds to the specific needs of your community. i will trust you with the energy future because it is you, not far away bureaucrats, who know how to best balance the needs of transportation and production with environmental concern. i will take my oath to uphold the constitution seriously.
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including the tenth amendment that said every power not specifically given to the federal government belongs to the state. it belongs to you. [applause]. and by the way, that just happens to be most -- i recognize the needs of new hampshire are not known to anyone better than the people of new hampshire. it comes from the people you represent. i would argue in part because of the size of this body, every single person in this seat, no no matter what they've been through can find at least one person in this chamber who has been through similar trials and connect personally with their struggle.
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this is what makes your representative body so small. someone who has been in a position like yours, allow me to offer a word of encouragement because someday your challenges here will make you feel unable to balance your duties with your career. i know what this is like because i also know these struggles. i had gone through a difficult time. i had been named speaker and it made it difficult to maintain my responsibilities outside of my job. my seller at the time was higher than most people and yet it barely covered our basic expenses. we had a new daughter and like many families we felt like we were drowning under our bills. my student loan payments were close to $900 per dollars per month. rent was $1500 a month.
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car payments were another few hundred. eventually we chose to sell a car and we moved in with her mother for a time. i hired a headhunter to find a job better suited to my schedule. i kept coming up empty. after all, who wants to hire someone who will be gone three or six months of the year in the state legislature. my understanding wife second biased so much now had to worry about my ability to provide for my family. i began to fear and accept that the only option was to resign from legislature and commit to full-time law again. in my case, i knew my my struggles were small compared to those of my neighbors. compared to the struggles my own parents had to face years before. what i found is the struggles brought into sharp focus what
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public service was all about. it heighten my desire to find new solutions to the old challenges facing so many families. at that time, including my own. i'll never forget that one day, in the midst of these challenges, i, i started driving just to clear my head. i found myself at the church where we got married a few years before. i walked in and went down to the front. più and i open the kneeler and began to pray. i asked god what he wanted me to learn. i prayed his will would be done and i prayed for the strength to do whatever that will would be. by the time i left church, i was still worried that i'd resigned to accept whatever happened. then on my way back to my mother-in-law's house, my phone rang. after weeks of not hearing anything, the headhunter was calling to tell me there was a law firm that expressed interest in my service. of door had suddenly opened.
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as i look back, i see those periods of struggle, not as a distraction, i see them as a part of me. they helped inspire the work i did. the work i did on behalf of recent college graduates dealing with student debt or the young parent living paycheck to paycheck and the moms and dad struggling to balance work and the desire to be home with their kids. so fellow americans, i know know you are all here for common reason. it's the same reason i am here. you have felt the call to serve. one of the best ways to do so is to continue to be out among them. when you fall in times of hardship, as we all do, don't let those experiences drive you away.
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bring those experiences back here, back here to contribute to the collective wisdom of this body. a wisdom that is uniquely fit for the people who deserve it. for more than two centuries, legislatures like these and leaders like you set our country, the united states of america, apart. the. the true roots of our democracy are here and all of you are called to this place out of duty, not out of ambition. to do something, not to be someone. a lot of the questions before this election has been will you be able to continue to do your vital work. will it be handled handed over to someone in washington who has never stepped foot in the state and has no appreciation for how unique it is. i have had the honor of meeting your friends and neighbors and colleagues throughout the state of new hampshire.
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one truth i know, independence runs in your veins. live free or die, that called action lives through the generations. as washington encroaches on our state, we will forfeit much of what makes us different and special and unique from all the nations on the earth. i want you to know something. despite everything going wrong in our country today, i believe with all my heart that god is not done with america yet. i believe with all my heart that god dustin's us for an even better future and the opportunity to extend the hope of a better life to more people than ever before. together we can create that better future for america. you and me and all those around this country who believe our people are still the sort of the of our need of strength. more than capable of governing
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their own affairs. i would just ask you to pray, not for for me, although that would help, but pray for this body. pay for the person to your left and right. pray for the person across the aisle. pray for those you represent. most of all pray for our country. pray that our next president will have the wisdom and pray that god will give each of us in public life the wisdom to uplift and to serve and to save the american free. thank you for the opportunity. thank you very much. [applause]. >> you're watching c-span2. next we take you to manchester new hampshire for the lesser known candidates form. then president obama talks to autoworkers in detroit. that's followed by presidential candidates at the new hampshire state legislature.
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>> on the next washington journal, we talked to general motors engineer about the future of electric farms. then they look at the supreme court's review on president obama's use of executive power. "washington journal" is live every morning. >> on road to the white house tomorrow we will take you to new hampshire where senator bernie sanders talks to voters. that's live at seven pm eastern. then to the university of iowa for hillary clinton addressing supporters at 830 eastern on c-span. >> a presidential candidate known for wearing a boot on his head and promising everyone atef free pony if elected was barred this week fromamps participatinn
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the new hampshire's lesser-known candidate forum.r" r he conquered reports in this came from reports that he sprinkled glitter on the head of a candidate that he saw as racists four years ago. he waited outside the event tuesday. it was 19°. inside, five lesser-known candidates for the 2016 presidential nomination and 20 for the democratic president ina nrum thefrticipated in form. from manchester new hampshire, minutes.hree hours ten me, >> thank you neil and the new hampshire institute of politics. i want to bank secretary of state bill gardner the opportunity to join in a great night.ire i want to set the record straight, this is not the happy hour. this is not the jb debate or thw
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undercard debate. this is a uniquely new hampshiri opportunity. for all the candidates who have put them selves forward forplaie highest office in the land to speak to new hampshire and un explain why they are the bestir candidatee for president of the united states. we had 58 candidates on the ballot. that's the second most in acee t presidential primary in the state. that's the moste o since 1992. we will have a chance to heare from some of them tonight and their views on the issue.he before i do that, i want toe introduce the panel. brad is covering the new hampshire primary. he's also a reporter for abc radio where he wanted 2015 edward r moral award. [applause]. absolutely. next we have a familiar face to. many and he is a 35-year-olds stater who is a politicalapri
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reporter. he also began his new hampshire journalism career as a reportern not a popular view in this audience perhaps.ear last but not least, jim swain is a 3030 year new hampshire state representative and senator. he's been involved in every i primary since 1960. he is following inn the great,d mr. slane has helped guaranteedl new hampshire's first in the nation status by writing a law that has guaranteed that the
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secretary of state has, at his discretion, the ability to setet the primary seven days or more before any similar election. thank you for joining me tonight. [applause]. so tonight, our plan is to go down the line and ask candidates questions. there's oneneth hav minute to ad mr. slane as the timekeeper tonight. he will let you know with as yellow card when you have 30 y-n seconds left and a red card when it's time to finish up. we hope to get as many questions as we can.co we have steven, kim cook, walte from sunnyside new york, andy martin from new hampshire and joe robinson from boston, massachusetts. these are the lesser-knowncre candidates for tonight. everyone give them a round ofi applause. clapmac. as i said will begin with statements. >> i want to recognize thisewe
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college because we are going to be interviewed by the student, the chief editor of the student paper. that really impressed me.e yo you know the power in this country is with the young people. it's not so much about ourng futures, but there's. i've been doing i investigations and washington. i've had threats and i'm not too happy about it. i know iit' will get more threas when i bring this information up. it's a beautiful port, especially in the audience, but youtube, i'm impressed impressed with because they aren't
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intimidated. i want you to remember this website, www.steven com ellie on y.com. i gave him evidence for 140 days 40 days about unsafe conditions in nuclear plants acrossss thehe country. i get involved because my family is in the new sing home profession. i had a resident in inome my hot was paralyzed. the executive director wrote to us and said leave the paralyzedy resident behind. they told me to leave the resident behind and give her iodinea to drink. h
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first responders, we've heard a lot about responders. a right now there is a gag orderoe --dash. >> to try to be fair to try alle candidates, your your time is up. >> we willo move down the line o mr. cook. you have two minutes for opening statements. >> so in order to come to washington, we have to get involved and do more than complain. thank you. >> my name is tim cook and i'med running for president. i'm after your vote and your wallet. in case you're using wondering, i use an android. i'm a fellow of the north carolina institute of political leadership. i understand about politics. in fact, you have a book to make men free.u that's ironic because they say america is the land of the free.
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i'm here to tell you that'sa simply notct true. ou in fact, it's a lie. our women are made too cover our faces and children aren't told who they can marry, why are we told who we can vote for president. tv debates are based on poll numbers.kin someone is cherry picking the candidates for voters and that's notat american. g the president should be elected and not selected. it's a very good chain that abraham lincoln wouldn't make the cut. the federal election commission is letting this happen. it's all aboutha money.pol if you have money to pay for your own polls, there's a pretty good bet that they will include you in the public pulls. also some states restrict ballots of certain candidates.
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even if you've got 20 to 25% of votes in the past, you may be excluded from the state valid unless you're a millionaire. a millionaire. even after your party has said, our welcome. i guess the constitution only applies to some and not all.>> thank you. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen. i was born in brooklyn and grew up in queens. i spent some time in long island. i cherish the people of new hampshire.t, they're independent and able too make their own decision. this is the year that people are seriously looking at other candidates. [inaudible]
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>> next up, mr. martin. >> i want to thank the college first sponsoring this event. i'd like to thank theence audiee for coming out on a brisk news hampshire january evening. my name is andy martin and i am also celebrating a hundred year. anniversary. my mother's parents immigrated from greece and my mother and my uncle graduated from the university of new hampshire and my grandfather was a smallas businessman. they were in the ethnic greek neighborhood. as a boy and then 1950s, i hadnr the tail end of that experience. while i'm conservative when it comes to lawful immigration, i t also have tremendous sympathy for an connection to the immigrantt experience. i'm also a little unusual in that i'm the only candidate
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better known or are known who's lived overseas in china in 2003 and i rock and knows the arab world. i've spokend the languages as per dick did -- as predicted, we elected a man who had never left the country except for as a tourist. he didn't know anything about the foreign world in a created disaster. i am somebody who has been fighting corruption in the political system since i went to capitol hill. fifty-one years ago i worked foo senator paul douglas who is a a corruption writer and a guy who like to stir what was a more corrupt bureaucracy than it was
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today. i'm proud to be here to present my qualifications to participate in the primary and do honor to the great democracy which my whh grandparents enjoyed when they came here 100 years ago in 1916. thanktha you.tele >> and watching the politicians and the wealthy on television, it's quiteous obvious that they know what our problems are, but nobody has a clue how to solve them. i'mdid the only candidate who ks how to solve our four major problems of government death,ll terrorism, health care. can i can tell you these problems can be easily solved once we resolve the epa regulation thatn we are successful in destroying our economy and financing terrorism : the present litigation between the epa bullfight improves the epa knows the natural gas emissions are polluting industrial oil emissions of
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sulfur at azeris second-worst. in order to favor the oil and gas interests financing terrorism in order to -- the car make her's or wilbur r. on carmakers. we should be using that vote not only to fuel our reduction of oil but to manufacture gasoline. you won't be the first. south africa has been doing it since 1957. it will require us into taxing illegals. release profit sharing plans to ensure the quality of the work is good and middle-class wages. in this election you will bow to continue continue the epa's regulations which bankrupt america or you will vote for me
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to create the middle-class employment to restore america to its grandeur. >> thank you mr. robinson. once again the format tonight we'll ask each of the questions one by one. you will have one minute to respond to mr. spillane will remind you how much time you have left. if i feel there's an opportunity to do so we may ask all of you on the panel questions from time to time so while we get questions underway. >> mr. cook since we last help us debate this country has seen tens of thousands of gun deaths including several mass shootings at schools. what can you do to prevent more of them? >> looking at violent video games and the mental health bill that as far as the 2nd amendment for the first 150 years the
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country was founded there was no basic gun laws. in the last 40 years it's been gradually eroding more and more of our rights. i don't like to see gun deaths in children but also there are 6 million reasons in europe that should be -- we should have gun laws. >> thank you mr. could. the next question will be for any martin. >> following up on that when we have a terrorist incident or mass shooting in the united states from newtown to san bernardino to debate immediately turns from the white house to the 2nd amendment. what restrictions, there are any restrictions that you find sensible that have been suggested by the president that should be imposed on gunners -- gun ownership and available weapons and do you agree with the present executive action to close the so-called gun show
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loopholes? >> to answer the gun show question first, no. i agree with the ball people bernie sanders. bernie sanders represents vermont and i'm doing a story about how hillary clinton shot herself in the foot by attacking him for gun control. bernie's argument in the debates that i've watched and i do occasionally watch the democratic debates, then we have the kind of sit down among ourselves as a country both parties. we are very divided on this republicans and democrats come and see if we can work on sensible accommodations. they're probably up with personal promises impossible to know what makes sense but doesn't because whatever he says polarizes the nation and so in his own way bernie sanders is making since when he says look i live in vermont as a socialist. he doesn't support gun restrictions of an extreme nature. think more conversation and less
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hostility is called for. i would be my solution. >> thank you mr. martin. mr. comely the next question in 2013 the senate debated an expansion to the proposal expanding back round requirements for all gun purchases including those at gun shows. senator shaheen supported that and what could -- what would your voted them? >> i don't think you need a machine gun to kill a rabbit that i do respect people's right to own a gun. none of the press or politicians are asking why so many people in other countries hate us. i was out to chattanooga when the marines were killed. i have had armed forces come to me and they said mr. comely we understand you are protecting -- and we want to give get the
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information of the american people should know about. but you can't give up identities. if you let me i will and if you don't if i give up your name out of business. do you know what they told me? the obama administration impassive administrations and bush have helped people to sign up or isis. i said why do you feel that why? all the bombs and chemical warfare that were given to the saddam hussein, given by the u.s. military. >> mr. comely thank you for your answer. >> they were given to military companies and that's why a lot of people in other countries hate us. we have to find out why they hate us. until we do we can't stop the terrorists. they are going to come. >> the next question will be for mr. iwachiw. >> you mention new hampshire's live free or die attitude. should the role of government be
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smaller than it is today and if so how would you balance that with the needs of everyday americans? >> the will of the government should be smaller and it should be smart. technology has to be used to make the people that we influence more efficient. there has to be smart technology issues to protect the people. i propose using smart weaponry to enhance the availability of weapons to legal ownership. smart weapons would prevent people from shooting other people. there are other issues that we have to deal with. a limited amount of money and the constant terror threats are turning away our resources.
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i was attacked by seven men. these things have to be protected by the 2nd amendment. >> the next question is to mr. robinson. >> i'm going to stay with the topic. as president how would you protect your schoolchildren are propose protecting our schoolchildren on our college campuses in an effort to sure there are no more sandy hook's or umpqua community colleges in oregon. some say there should be restrictions on gun ownership and others say there should be more guns allowing officers, armed officers and retired policeman in the schools. >> it would take longer than 67 67 -- 60 seconds answer questions but put one of my costs of would be to legalize -- in this country. that seems like there's no connection. if you are familiar with pirate
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bay what allows people to do is to take them all types of computer programs and movies and videos and whatnot without paying for it. if you think about it what is a person using a gun responsible in the answers you have two things what is the concept of an accessory to a crime and by legalizing pirate bay you take all these people in the movie business and all these people in the video business and a computer program they will see from a much different point of view. >> thank you mr. robinson. we are discussing the 2nd amendment one of the important rights that americans hold dear. the next president will likely have an appointment to the supreme court who will hear cases involving the 2nd amendment and others. why do we go down the line and if each of you would name a supreme court justice current or former that you would consider a model of the kind of justice he would like to point if you have the opportunity to do so.
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mr. comely why do you go first. >> i'm sorry, didn't quite hear the question. >> what would be a supreme court justice current or former that you would consider a model for the kind of justice he would appoint. >> i still don't catch it. i'm sorry. >> what kind of qualifications in the supreme court nominee would you consider? >> i will tell you, you know i took majored in accounting business in college and i know how to add. one plus one makes to and not three like congress thinks. there is so much on the backs of the working people. i mean every illegal alien that comes into this country and refugee, the working person has to pay for them and we have got to eliminate these programs. the only reason why we have so many illegal aliens is because
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we don't enforce the law. if we enforced the law when the first one came in he wouldn't be here. we don't need to build a wall. we need to bring the soldiers back because we can't afford to please all these countries. i feel bad for my grandchildren. will they even be the hubble to have a house in alt-a right now i'm the only candidate that has the qualifications to turn washington upside down i can do. >> mr. cook the supreme court question. >> ideally i would like to have someone that models thomas jefferson for freedom. i think of chief justice roberts right now, someone along that caliber i would like to nominate to the supreme court. i think he would be someone. >> mr. iwachiw. >> i think i want to focus on ethics in and the judiciary.
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i'm having a lot of problems with judges which are going and making orders and judicial judgment based on -- and in the federal courts there's really no remedy for equal justice at this point. >> thank you. mr. martin. >> president reagan appointed the first woman to the supreme court and i'm a little embarrassed to say i can't remember her name right now. sandra day o'connor, thank you. i thought she was a very good justice because she came out of the political process. she had been a state senator in arizona and she understood the complexities of different branches of government yet she was a swing justice but she was very effective.
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she gave us what we needed in this country which was balance. extreme right-wing judges and extreme left-wing judges really provoke public anger. we need to work toward solutions and not towards -- people. >> mr. martin. >> the justice whom i admired the most was the supreme court justice louis brandeis. to me the most famous statement that he made was democracy can only exist when we have a majority middle-class which we know when i'm -- no longer have today. today we have 49% middle class and that's because of our enormous problem of unemployment and underemployment. on the other hand if we look at justice robinson he made an enormous mistake. he took his job as an adjudicator and decided he was going to be a legislator. that's totally unacceptable and the fact that even legal. what we have to do is to get people clearly to understand the
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difference between legislation and adjudication. that's a very nice appeals decision which clearly delineate what is legislation what is adjudication. that's what we need. >> thank you mr. up then. our second round of the administrative questions, you are out. >> over the next few months foreign policy has become one of the most important issues to the average voter so how can you assure us that you qualify as service commander chief and what would be your chief policy? >> i help in the education earthquake situation. going to the -- i tried to negotiate very opening of three hospitals to handle the injuries in haiti but politics being what they were once i got there how did we get rid of them?
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my concern was their health and safety. these are the same issues that are being replicated all around the world. there is terrorism, people are being displaced. we have to somehow get a grasp on people who are being forced out and provide them with a way to stay there, to protect themselves and to fight off these forces which are forcing them to move. i don't want to be in that situation. we need to work together to make the world a safer place. >> bank in the next question for andy martin comes from john. >> and kumar. actually i would like to post this to mr. martin but i'd like to get everyone's opinion on it because it's a very pernicious. secretary of state john kerry says the world is safer today because of the african nuclear deal and accelerated the release of the five american prisoners held in iran.
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do you agree with that or do you disagree with that statement and why? >> i disagree with it. my experience is unique. i was in iran in 1979 after the hostages were taken and i was back in iran in 1980. so i have actually dealt with the iranians person-to-person alone in that country. i managed to get a -- my problem with what secretary kerry did and what the president did is that i believe they were too anxious for a deal and as a result i think frankly donald trump is the better of the argument when he says they negotiated a bad deal. i think we could have done a better deal and i think we should have done a better deal. i'm concerned that we may not be safe. today as i was coming over to this meeting the elders are not sure the technical term but they
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took thousands of candidates for office off the ballot in iran. that's not democracy. so it's still a very dangerous and unstable theocracy and i'm not sure we can trust them. >> mr. robinson. >> first of all we need a strong military because evil has no respect for -- and number two in the year 2010 the european court of appeals was right. the muslims are the people who propose and the court agreed with them in the case of the christian greeks were forced out of their homes in the characters section of cypress were not entitled to go back to their homes but they weren't title ii compensation. i think all we have to do is take that human rights court decision and put it together and be very frank about solving the
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israeli-arab problem and we will find peace in this world. the one thing we accomplished as we made closer friends in saudi arabia and israel and that's where we stand today. >> mr. cook on the u.n. question. >> i'm not favorable of the deal the government hates us and they hate israel. they will help enable them to give nuclear weapons but yet our own government wants to disarm the city. that simply doesn't make sense and in fact given the iran deal iran is one of largest state sponsors of terrorism. as a result of america to deal that makes america now the largest state sponsor of terrorism by funding iran. that's something wrong. >> mr. comely on the iran deal. >> i know kerry and he knows my family.
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he was going in the reverse direction. you know in 1941 pearl harbor we lost 200 soldiers to 9/11 we lost 3000 people. i have information that was given to me by insiders inside the nuclear regulatory commission that threatens 3 million citizens in new hampshire and massachusetts and beyond. you know i watched the pbs the other night the documentary on bombs. do you know that we have 60,000 nuclear warheads and we tell iran that can't have one? do you think that's going to sell? it's not going to sell. we should take the leadership in disarming nuclear weapons. we should do it. if we don't, you are going to have -- we have to lead and
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disarmament. you have to. and if you don't wear going to happen nuclear -- a lot worse than chernobyl or fukushima. i have the evidence that shows up in the rnc is covering it up. >> thank you mr. comely. >> i believe kerry is going in the opposite direction. >> the answer i guess is yes and no. now because it's dangerously close to paying for the hostages. that is my concern. as the world trade center family member and first responder and concerned about the judgments that were placed against iran. it's a very complicated issue. i would have to see if we are making real progress bringing iran into the world community.
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from that i would have to make my decision. >> stay on foreign-policy novel's date this question to mr. robinson paper mr. robinson prepares upon the city will present to congress this year plan to close the detention center at guantánamo bay that if congress doesn't act is considering using his executive authority to do so. what do you think a president should do and if you are president but would you do with the dutch pension center in guantánamo? >> with that president obama has issued more executive orders than the present different. issuing executive orders means he is not a present but a dictator. a person's job is to recite overlegislate of congress. that's number one. number two he said eight years ago he was going to close on time of day and it obviously hasn't done so that the perp is a good example of somebody has decided to be a dictator and not a president. >> a show of hands from the candidates, they would keep the detention center at one time of a x.. >> i would put hillary clinton
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there. and you say you wouldn't? would wouldn't? would you close it down? >> we are going through a process where we are trying to to -- so i'd have to see what happens with that. >> the next question for mr. comely. >> mr. comely mr. martin just brought up donald trump and donald trump seems to fundamentally change the nature of the republican race so what is your take on mr. trump and the policies easy as raised particularly immigration? >> mr. donald trump, his poll numbers are up there. the people are very angry about what's going on in washington. immigration you know, if they
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were legal and they have a record we are going to send them back in the cab. every illegal alien that is in the country right now has got to be held accountable from the time they broke the law. either they are going to pay a lot more taxes are they are going to keep coming here. you have got to enforce the laws and we are doing it. the bible says -- we have chaos in this country and it's a mess and we have to fix fix it. we have to be involved. we can't just complain about it. the work in person, don't know how they are doing it. i have them form is coming to me on every issue. i have medicaid fraud coming to me. obamacare is going to destroy the quality of care that hospitals and nursing homes are able to deliver.
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>> thank you mr. comely. we have to move on. >> who is going to pay for all of that? >> mr. martin where do you go ahead. >> a unique relationship of donald trump. shortly after he married his first wife he wanted to move into high building. i was on the board of directors of the building where he wanted to move and normally i used to approve contracts as i was in the building during the day. if i thiessen fama the only person who has ever said you were hired to donald trump because i signed off and approved his lease. he was a tenant and i also was an informal adviser to the architects at trump tower. on balance i think trump influence in the campaign has been positive. he brings an incredible amount of energy. he comes from outside the process. he threatens the established order and all of those are good.
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we have an encrusted bureaucracy political republicans and democrats. both parties are corrupt. not just the democrats are not just the republicans. trump has pluses and minuses but on balance i think he's been a tremendously positive force in this election. >> mr. robinson there are some republicans a set of donald trump was the nominee they would not support him. would you support donald trump support donald trump is the nominee? >> i would like to know who they democrats is therefore and make a decision in that situation. thought you were going to ask me about the situation on immigration in general and that like to respond to that as well. my father and my grandparents were all immigrants to this country. people come for two reasons. they are looking for work and they're looking to live in a democratic society. what we have to do is there's plenty of room for them in this country but we have to do is realize how to employ them with decent paying jobs and how do we give them the opportunity to be
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legal just like my father my grandparents did. my father came from ireland. not only was he a citizen of the u.s. possesses some of ireland's well. that's a we are here for and that's what your want to do. i want to cut out all this unemployment we have in the country which is the real problem. convert it to cool and i have three other projects that would employ people. states don't have enough water. >> will come back to some of those topics later. mr. cook the next kind was you because you john. >> on wednesday that because mr. trump has been accused sometimes accused sometimes it going overboard that not only by democrats. some in his own party especially when he proposed a temporary ban on allowing people, muslims and to guide states. do you feel that's a legitimate response to some of the situations the country has been
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faced with over the last couple of months? >> i think isis does pose a real threat and also i don't want to exclude anybody solely on their religious beliefs. you have to wonder is islam really a religion or is it more of the nazis believed that nazism is also a religion. from certain areas of the world i wouldn't restrict muslims from entering. i would not take the syrian refugees. if america wants to contribute let them go somewhere else. why can't we send them to another country that is willing? >> why don't we ask the same question. >> i thank that people want to move to safety and they choose places to come based on their needs.
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there are lots of ways to -- someone who wants it comes to states they can apply for visas to come here. there are lots of ways to bring people here. there are lots of ways to protect them from these radicals and that's what they are. a group of radicals which are affecting everybody's standards at decency and they just can't be tolerated greatly need to make a stand against them, not against an entire population. i think we need to be charitable. >> mr. martin and i will pose the question to be one of the things that donald trump has contribute to the dialogue is questioning whether his senator ted cruises constitution eligible to be present at the united states. >> i have to keep an open mind because i'm having a forum next
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week in washington and i've written to senator cruz. you have to balance the intent of the founding fathers with the power of the people in this room and in this nation to interpret the constitution. for our own needs in times. i am clear that the founders intended for that natural-born citizen clause to have her restrictive view but i'm also clear that society has basically loosen those requirements. i think it's a debatable question where mr. cruz falls. i was involved in the obama dispute and created a perhaps. obama had two of the three qualifications. he was born here and his mother was an american. cruz has only one of them, the mother. he was born in canada and his father was given so it's a tough question that's why i'm
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sponsoring a conference to give people a chance to talk. i have an open mind on it but i think it's a legitimate question and i think whether you are conservative or liberal scholar they do agree to a point of reasonable debate and discussion. >> who thinks that ted cruises not cuss just my eligible to be the president of the united states? would you support a constitutional amendment to strengthen a natural-born citizen clause? >> it is true that it is restricted. we remember what -- when mr. mccain was running for president. obviously a person who is in the military outside the country with his family you can't in any way restrict that person from running for the present of an estate. the question is whether or not someone born in canada where one parent was an american citizen
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the person obviously -- so was he born an american citizen and what does the constitution have to say about that? >> the next question to mr. comely will come from brent. >> mr. comely new hampshire massachusetts are both going through drought epidemics. since two years ago judged as an amateur level to what would you do as president to stem the tide? >> drugs? enforce the law. our kids have got a lot of temptations. we don't need families growing drugs in the backyard. we don't need it. we need to enforce the law. and the statute of liberty you can't discriminate people coming in here but if you enforce the law if you do something wrong, we have the kkk still here. we have him muslims coming in here.
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you enforce the law when they break you. that's what you do and we have to learn to live on this planet in a safe way. and you have got to enforce the law in order for that to happen. we don't have 12 million illegal aliens if we enforce the law in the beginning. we are not doing it. we send them to prison for five years am i let them out for good behavior. that man has to live with that for the rest of his or her life. we don't have enough prisons because we don't enforce the law. >> thank you mr. comely. because the heroin epidemic is such an important issue new hampshire we should hear from every candidate. mr. cook what are you continue on this question. >> my view is this. as president of the united states united states constitution establishes powers from the federal government.
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what is not under the federal government falls back to the states. the federal government in my view is to protect the citizens of and essays from foreign powers as well as enemies foreign and domestic which we do have enemies from within. i also think as well as, my time is almost up but basically it's a states rights issue. the federal government can negotiate trade deal to protect national interests and that is a states rights issue and individual states should have it. >> word would you do as president to dress the u.s. heroin epidemic? >> heroin is an abuse of medical issue. i was trained as a nurse practitioner. i would have to say it has to be a medical issue that has to be resolved as that issue. since the illicit drugs generate illicit cash which is being used all around the world for
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criminal activity somehow we have got to grab the extra money derived from selling heroin illegally and maybe there's a process we can do for treatment and getting some kind of legitimate -- part x. like tobacco. they there are medical issues and they should be treated the same and people should be treated. >> mr. martin same question to you. >> well if i was the president the first thing i would do is declare war against drugs over. it's been a failure and that was one where we don't have to negotiate a peace treaty for it. secondly i would acknowledge that at least in the hampshire as i walked down highway three opposing a local transmission line on the northern pass i saw
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hopelessly derelict homes. i saw people toward employed on assistance. i saw factories across the connecticut river that had been closed in vermont. they exported the jobs of my belief that economic urgency and economic failure and economic pressures create the conditions where people would turn to drugs. a strong economy would be a helpful -- i don't want to call it a states rights issue but i think a president can also use the bully pulpit to encourage the states to balance compassion with law enforcement. there has to be balance and that is what we lack today. >> mr. robinson same question. >> we know that 40% of white males have a police record by age 23. a lot of this of course is addressed. why are they dealing in drugs? because they are unemployed.
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there is no decent middle-class employment in this country. we have over 30% unemployed and another 30% that are underemployed walmart wages and that's exactly the reason people turn to drugs. they want to e and they want to pay their rent. we have to create honest employment with middle-class wages and that's exactly what i'm talking about. that will solve most of the problems. >> thank you mr. robinson. the next question we will pose to you. mr. cook. >> switching gears mr. cook a little bit on the airways are ads and candidates from super pacs. of course a lot of it was spurred by the citizens united decision in 2010. do you agree with the citizens united ruling backpacks and super pacs have as much right as any individuals to express
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their political preference by making unlimited expenditures or is this something that has some republicans certainly many democrats saying it needs to be reined in and restricted? >> well, i think there needs to be a lot done as far as fec regulations to how campaigns are allowed to broadcast especially some of the free publicity that has allowed some candidates but not allowed to other candidates. now as far as some of the super pacs i recently got an e-mail from, which i thought was -- for america ended ended up being four candidate. some of these packs are using candidates names to make people think that they are donating to a particular candidate. there need to be regulations on how they identify themselves. to think individuals rights they can pay for anything they want
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whether they are group of individuals or a political candidate for an ad. >> banking mr. cook. mr. comely present upon the use of state of the union address last week to call for better politics in the country. he talked of our redistricting reform as well as campaign-finance reform. what would you like to see them if your present and essays to reform the political system in this country? >> the only way to inform the political corruption in washington is for the people to get involved and rise up in a peaceful way. but they have got to make, they have got to get involved. they have got to make their voice heard. as far as, you know both parties , they are in charge and we let them be in charge and we complain. we have complained for years about it. together we can repair america. we really can but you have got to get involved.
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as far as you know i don't have the money to finance a tv station, that's for sure. my single mother never gave me a million dollars but you know i'm the only candidate running right now that has all the qualifications to turn washington upside down. and i'm going to do it or it's. >> rolley is the only town in the united states to get 80% of their town on a petition to investigate the nrc. do you know what mr. reagan did? he wouldn't see me. >> for chopin says we are talking about the political process or how many -- [inaudible] have run for any office before? how many of you have run for president of the united states before this year?
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>> i would like to ask really quickly since we are on this topic does anyone support the concept of public financing which many say is using public financing taxpayer funding of elections of candidates? does anyone see that as a viable alternative? >> john has a constitutional expert i can tell you we are in a straitjacket because of the first amendment. states have a lot more freedom and there are states that engage in public financing because they are not bound by the first amendment. i don't know the answer to your question and i don't know a better system necessarily can be produced. the only thing that troubles me about the existing system and of course i watch her tv station every night. that's not a plug that it's a necessity and you look at these ads and assess vote for this guy
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citizens for good works and the committee for babies and puppies and we think marco rubio is a bad guy. what the supreme court left open citizens united was disclosure laws and full disclosure payday think that's where we have to start but we cannot make progress as long as we have chief executives who hate politics and a people. i was obama's weakness and i'm sorry to say it's awesome mrs. clinton's. i think trump could ask to get people to talk. >> i would like to comment on that. as far as the public financing i see public financing as possible viable alternative. what i really seen a presidential election when you have a public debate of the candidates with all the money they can spend their money advertising on the tv ads but they have the debates. they can see the news and they can watch the debates. you have to have the lexus to the debate. with the internet now we don't
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really need to have campaigns putting out tv ads all the time. the fec can have an individual pole. our states dates have pole where the voters can qualify and use that as well as the current polling to see it qualifies for the debate instead of the current chair of picking -- cherry-picking. if you are not included in the polls then no one gets a chance to vote for per year and that's not very pretty honestly think i would be in the debate. >> thank you mr. cook. anyone else want to talk about public financing who hasn't? >> the government -- over $17 trillion we are bankrupt. if we would pay out the principle that a $1 million a day would take 50,000 years to pay that debt.
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$17 trillion divided by a million is 50,000 years. it's just unbelievable. what we have to do is to start paying off the debts over grandchildren and great grandchildren don't pay at number one and number two a lot of this money is owed to the chinese or the japanese. they will foreclose on those banks. the only way to do that is developed private enterprise employ lots of people pay middle-class wages through profit sharing and pay the taxes. also if you are an employee there's no reason -- we can get rid of 60,000 of the 85,000 people who work at the irs. let's figure out how we can cut down on expenses and how we will pay taxes to balance her budget
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and pay off our debt. >> we should talk about illegal aliens to finance the deficit. >> we should put them to work and that their taxes pay off the debt. that's exactly what i'm saying. >> i will post the next question to you. in a recent debate senator cruz was discussing their ideas and donald trump responded to that. what do you consider new york values? >> lycee hi and they smile them to give you directions. we will show you a good time. that is what the united states is about. [inaudible] >> the next question goes to mr. martin. >> we have been talking about the cost of campaigning but i want to talk about the cost of college. there are several students here. what should be done to keep college tuition costs down?
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>> i know it can't be done and that is to accept simplistic solutions like the democrats are saying that the so-called mitt romney free stuff approach. we have got to work on cutting some of the overhead. when i went to school at the university of illinois and i was a football player so we had more benefits. we ate pressed turkey and a slice of lettuce and that tomato with like it'd been sitting around in the refrigerator for a couple of days. we didn't have fancy dorms and pools in all of this so today the college experience has become a luxury living. that's why it's so expensive. we have got to think about whether we can have experience for people who want to work and get an education and don't want to be in a four-star hotel in midair. i survived quite nicely pressed turkey and jell-o and nobody gets that today because we think tearing down my old dormitory,
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these were barracks but today they're building high-rise luxury places for the students. of course that costs money so there's a little hypocrisy and the high cost of college because the experience has rendered a change since i went to college. >> the cost of college has become a major issue this campaign. mr. comely what was your first up present to address college costs? >> when i went to college i was working three days a week in a cereal factory from 6:00 at night until 6:00 in the morning and then i would go to class at seven. i think students should be working instead of taking so many loans out. education is not free just like health care. it's not free and i think the gentleman who just talks about the high-rises since whatnot it's a way to cut costs in colleges, administration and whatnot that you have to focus on it.
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and the students should be working. that gives them experience in the working force. northeastern college does that. you can cut costs for heaven sakes. all you have to do is as an accountant, you can add and if you're getting abused and that you can find it if you want to look for it. college can be cheaper. if you work on it and you focus on where you can cut costs. >> i am actually college student by the way. i work in a company. for example last year i simply had three roles and the multinational company. i was lab manager quality manager and finishing in mbaa and marketing from liberty university which i finished in december as well as nc state
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masterman engineering which i am still a student of that program. i do think you should have more of your tuition coming off it for taxes. that's what i feel. .. so it is too much money for nondegree, and a lot of
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people, if they fail to make the degree to have a big chunk of money that they have to pay back. it extends your ability to pay back. so i think it's too expensive. we need to do more online teaching so that you don't need as many facilities. >> on this as well. >> $1,500 a year for tuition. did not increase by that much. the big difference was all of a sudden this loan money was available. we know many are not being replaced -- repaid properly. you can forget these high tuition rates.
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the student has to work. it will be the best experience of his lifetime. >> each candidate a chance to ask a close have to give a closing statement. >> we have not gotten to the federal deficit. i know that's a big question, but in a nutshell would you cut taxes -- would you increase taxes? what are the main proponents of your proposal to deal with the federal deficit which is in the neighborhood of $439 billion. and while your at it, your party controls congress. how are they doing? >> what i cut taxes? you have got to cut taxes.
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and you have got to give businesses less taxes, too. you got to cut capitol gains because they have to reinvest in america. they are the ones that take the worst. obama wants to penalize someone that took the risk to create jobs and whatnot. it is incredible. he is a dictator. you're going to have more jobs and have companies invest, then you have got to cut taxes. this is a capitalistic society, not socialism. they penalize and penalize people from being successful in creating jobs and they dictate to them. in this bars taxes go comeau we have got to cut taxes. we have to eliminate the deficit. if you don't eliminate the deficit 1st -- and there are ways to do it. find the programs because --
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[inaudible conversations] >> they spend it. the only way we will clean up this deficit is by giving, creating the employment in the private sector and paying middle-class wages which means developing, don't have enough water, using reverse osmosis up and down the coast of california, up and down the coast of texas. the pipeline to distribute this to the present and future population. number three, develop an automobile that not only will give you a nice ride in the car, not only give you at least 50 miles to the gallon and 60 miles an hour.
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that is one of my areas of expertise. the 4th area is of course -- i'm sorry. creating jobs and middle-class pay that will then pay taxes. once there is no reason. that is how you pay off the debt, people in the private sector, millions and millions of them. >> your plan for the deficit. >> businesses grow. a whole new prospect of exploring states and using mining. things that we need. the opportunity, a colony on the moon to provide
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different avenues of manufacturing. that is what we are doing now. i think we should invest in exploring the resources. and that will help reduce the deficit. >> well, i checked the "wall street journal" webpage. there was a story, for the 1st time since 2009 congress has voted to increase the deficit. i think my republican friends were making good progress cutting the national output claimed by, making genuine progress, but this slipped off the wagon as it were. i do not think the explanation that was given, he was retiring, is good. the eternal vigilance, the
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price of democracy, a strong, healthy economy and working to live within our means is something the republican party is for in theory. i think that is a weakness. i do not favor tax cuts. i do not believe the propaganda, and i think we have a long way to go to make ourselves a more consumer family-friendly party. i am committed to that. >> okay. the 1st thing is to secure the borders. the 2nd would be to cut off aid to illegal aliens. the 3rd would be, we have a spending problem. we need to go through line by line and reduce and eliminate unnecessary spending.
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i do think job creation can be created if someone wants to invest as an entrepreneur, they should be able to and have that as a deduction from their taxes. >> it will give each of our candidates the final one minute closing argument. >> as i said earlier, the only way to solve our problems are unemployment, terrorism, immigration, government debt, yes everyone working in the private sector through various means weather. opening up coal sources, providing water, making intercom commercial aircraft , supersonic aircraft from the east coast
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to europe and from the west coast to boy in the far east. it was a bad mistake, and we should be doing that. that's another area where millions of people can be employed in the private sector paying good taxes which is the only way you will solve the problems of this country. get people working in the private sector so that they have middle-class wages. new line democracy, you have to majority middle-class. >> i hope those who are watching on television will get some appreciation why new hampshire is such a special place. we live democracy. and a good reason why we are 1st in the nation. we owe a great debt to secretary of state, and i consider him the field
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marshal of the 1st of the nation primary. he knows i am one of his regimental commanders and will help in any way possible to unleash whatever has to be unleashed to fight to keep new hampshire 1st. we do a good job, are fair and impartial. we have a meeting which is important in maintaining the openness of our state and society which is a good idea. i have nothing bad to say, but they are such huge places. they could not offer the public the option we have today. you have sure is 1st in the nation. i am marching right behind them. we are locked and loaded to the 1st in the nation. >> well, the people out there have to take time.
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a very complicated field, lots of people. sixty people registered in new hampshire alone. a fair job. there are ways to research individual people and find out where they stand for more than you can trust them that is what new hampshire and iowa have to decide. disregard and give the smaller voices a chance. thank you.
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>> what to have for dinner whereas their public is a well oiled machine. and solid like to say americans republic. please visit me on twitter tempo 2016. you can see my twitter poll where i will pull to everyone including some democrats. i can beat hillary one-on-one. visit tim cook 2016 .com. please support me. >> i am running for president of the united states because none of the candidates with paul numbers are telling you the truth. they are not telling you the truth about al qaeda, isi s. i get military people telling me how they feel. we don't need another politician

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