i have a question about your faith. many candidates say god's law trumps our country's law. do you agree with that and can you name an example of that. and mr. cruz said he is a christian first and an american second. does that hold true for you? >> first of all, everybody including atheist live according to their faith. and everybody's actions are ruled by their faith and by their belief. in my case, you know, i have

strong faith in god and i live by godly principles of loving our family man, caring about your neighbor, developing your god-given talent and having values and principles that govern your life. and that is going to dictate how i treat everybody. fortunately, our constitution, the supreme law of our land, was designed by many of faith. it as a judeo christian value and there is no conflict so it is not a problem. does that answer your question? [applause] >> my question was can you give me a situation god would trump

any law of the country? >> if we create laws that are contrary to the judeo christian values that we have then i think we should fight against those kinds of laws. i believe we still have an obligation to obey the law, whether we agree with them or not, or otherwise we would be a lawless nation. but it doesn't mean we should not fight against anything we see as unzejust. we have the mechanisms build into our system to allow those protest to take place. >> and what are you thoughts on the question about mbeing a christian first and an american second? >> i will always say mr. cruz

can speak for himself. >> you spoke a lot about common sense and using your brain and i appreciate that. in some of the questions in the debates you have responded that you would seek the inputs of the experts. the experts in the sensitive community overwhelmingly agree climate change is a problem. can you explain that discrepancy and why you have not willing to listen to the experts. >> first of all, i believe anyone who is responsible recognizes that they have an obligation to protect the environment and to pass it on to the next generation in at least as good of shape as you found it. and therefore i don't subscribe to the politicitization of the

environment because that is what leads to things like the clean power plant that the president is advocating. the epa said if he iml. every aspect of the clean power plan it will lower the temperature of the earth by 00.5.0 a 5 -- 0.005 -- and the cost is billions of jobs and dollars. i am ever bit for evidence-driven things. that is what we do in medicine. we look at the evidence. that is one of the reasons that at the last turn of the severn century average age of death was 40 and now it is 80. we look at things and make decisions based on effovidence throand see no reason that should not be done in environmental science as well.

>> i am a christian and i will pray for that atheist guy. i have a question about how the bipartisan part of your presidency will go when you are elected. >> okay. first of all, you will notice that the things that i talk about -- they are not republican things or democrat thinks. they are american things. and that is one of things that i think needs to be empasizehemph. we have weakly we have a -- we have allowed ourselves to become too divided. ge jesus and lincoln said a house divided will not stand. there are wars on women, religious wars, you name it there is a war on it. we are allowing hatred to hold

sway. we must reject hatred because as americans, republicans or democrats, we have a lot more in common than the things that separate us. [applause] >> and the fact of the matter is i always say if two people agree about everything one of them isn't necessary. so we need to really get over this. and what i always recommend is discuss things. is there anything wrong with sitting down with people you disagree with and have a civil discussion and talk about why you believe what they believe and what you will discover is you are not nearly as far apart as you think you are. we live in a pluristic society which means it is necessary -- pleuristic -- for people to have those kinds of discussions.

when you don't, you end up with things like obamacare. you hammer everything out and knack gmake nefarious deals behind closes doors. i would have regular readings as president with both parties together all in one room. i would have the proceedings televised so the american people can actually see who is on their side and who isn't. and that will take care of the problem. [applause] >> you referred to evil in our government and i think a lot of time evil happens in the darkness. so my question is regarding government transparency.

especially in terms of how our money is spent. i feel like i pay my taxes, it goes into a deep hole and i never know. it is almost impossible how your b money is actually spent. what can you do as president to provide more transparency? there are a lot of people, for example with the 9/11 commission, wish that was reopeneded it wasn't thoroughly vetted. we got into the iraq war bein beings -- reopened -- and would you be willing to open those cases? >> yes, i would be willing to open a large number of things people have done in recent years because there is no reason these people should get away with anything. benghazi bothers the heck out of me in particular. [applause] >> i think about those two navy

seals who disobeyed orders and went there and were on top of the compound firing away with machine guns allowing many of the others to escape. and i am sure they were thinking if we can just hold on. help is on the way. but help wasn't on the way. when we reach a point where we don't try to help our people who are in trouble i don't know when that occurred. but that is absurd. we need to make sure that that is reversed and the people who were responsible are not hidden away and that they are as far as i am concerned prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law wherever it reaches. [applause] >> okay. this will have to be the last question. >> hi, dr. carson.

thank you for taking my question. this is a health care question. my husband and i are both at the university as hillary clinton workers. my question is in regard to prescription drug cost that a lot of mraern americans are str with. a lot of people don't realize how much the united states indirectly subsidizes cheaper medical care cost like in canada and britain. we have to develop the drugs, bring them to market and pay more for them. my question is what will you do to help get canada and other developed countries to pay their share and paying twhwhat they n to so we don't subsidize them? >> i think there are a number of possibilities. one of the things i think would

be wise have the drug developing process done more in the nih and less in the private sector so there is not the same profit motive associated with it. the drugs are incredibly expensive. the very same drug you go to turkey and you can by are it for 1/100 of the cost here. that doesn't make any sense our people have to subsidize the cost. i am familiar with the drug industry. i almost joined corporate borders and i am glad i didn't do that now. they do everything they do on a profit motive. and i struggle with the concept.

of whether something that is so important to people's lives should be under the complete control of people who only have a profit motive. when in fact we have a mechanisms to develop this through the public sector so we would not have those cost. that is something i am still in the process of studying. i am certainly open to lots of different suggestions. one of the things i believe in is solomon, who was the wisest man that ever lived, he said in a multitude of conflict is safety. i think when we have a problem, rather than just assume.

in a confidant administration we would be calling on lots of different people and finding out what solutions they have. while i am talking about solomon let me just close with this little story. i believe that god has a sense of humor. and the reason i believe that is because, you know, when i was 14 i tried to stab someone and their belt buckle saved them. i know some people say that is fantasy but it isn't fantasy. and the media was all over the story saying that can not be true and we can't find people that verified this. then they found the magazine article from 1997 when my mother described the whole thing and they said let's move on to

something else. that is what they did with all of those stories. but the point being that day i started reading from the book of proverbs and i start the day every day and end the day reading the book of proverbs written by solomon. my middle name is solomon. when solomon became the king of israel do you remember the first thing he did that brought acclaim? two women claimed to be the mother of the baby and what did he advocate? divide the babies. that is when i became well known; when i separated the babies. thank you very much. thank you. all right. thank you. absolutely. hey, there, young lady. >> sir, don't hold that over his head, please.

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>> republican presidential candidate dr. ben carson had a town hall meeting at the university of iowa in iowa city. during the q&a dr. carson got a question about how his faith might play a roll in his presidency. and according to the pew research center ben carson was seen as the strongest faith candidate with 68% saying he was religious, ted cruz at 65% and senator marco rubio at 61%.

from the survey the washington times writes most americans said it is important to them the president had strong religious beliefs. being an atheist is one of the biggest liabilities a presidential candidate can have. 51% of voters said they would be less likely to vote a candidate who doesn't believe in god. a reminder c-span is taking you on the road for the iowa caucus. the live coverage begins at 7 p.m. eastern time with live pre-caucus coverage and at 8 p.m. we will go to a republican and democratic caucus. we talked with students at simpson college a small liberal

arts school south of des moines. >> both of you are active in politics here on campus. olivia anderson you same to simpson college for the politic choices. how has it been? >> it has been a whirlwind of opportunities since coming here. whether it be senate, house or presidential elections that are happening now. i was able to be a fellow with the hillary clinton campaign this past summer just due to the fact i conveniently live here in iowa. >> and you are also president of the college democrats. were you always a democrat? when did you start becoming a democrat? >> whenever i was growing up i grew up in a fairly conservative area and group a republican. but after just learning more and just trying to educate myself i figured out i aligned more with

democratic values. that transition happened in college and exciting it happened here in iowa. >> you are active in the rubio campaign. what do you do? >> i am the chairman for the r warren county campaign and run the students for rubio all over the state. >> i work with schools as big as the university of iowa and have events planned like debate parties or come out and discuss the candidates and issues. >> do you think your generation is as active in politics as future generations? >> i like to think we are. we have people that are pessimistic about our generation and like to think we are not as engaged. but from what i have seen at simpson and across the state plenty of young people are concerned about the nation and want to be involved to get it on

the right track. >> how did you become a republican? >> i was raised in a fairly conservative household and i like to say i bleed red because it has been involved in my family for generations. my grandfather helped run president ford's campaign. >> where are you going to be on caucus night? >> supporting marco rubio. >> and where will you be? >> i will be here on campus and definitely supporting hillary. >> the c-span bus is in iowa ahead of monday's caucuses to spread the word about c-span. here is a tweet showing some of our resources on the ground. c-span is all hands on deck as we prepare for our coverage of the iowa caucus. martin o'malley stopped by and met simpson college students who tweeted this: simpson college students and professor hang out in the c-span bus while martin

o'malley is interviewed. republican presidential candidate mike huckabee visited the bus. and marco rubio tweeted hello, chatting with supporters and traveling with the c-span bus here. >> former arkansas governor and republican presidential candidate mike huckabee held a town hall event at jeff's pizza shop in ames, iowa talking about the need for health care reform, stronger economy, and stronger military. this begins with comments from lieutenant governor bower. >> i learned if there were not problems there would not be opportunities for great men to shine. i met mike huckabee when i was 33 s 33 3 and i went to visit his state and saw what he did in a

blue state. a guy that could work across party lines. when i got elected in the legislature i got to work in both bodies working in the majority and senate and see how the minority was. i respected the fact of working together with folks to get things done and find common ground. a lot of folks want to be hard nose and say this is the way it will be. i will tell you they will not be an effective leader or person to make things happen. mike huckabee is exactly what i think shows great leadership. the fact he had a legislature that was controlled by the democrats but was able to pass things and get things done. and quoite frankly what i have seen in washington is not where i want the future of the country to go. i think there are many opportunities to do better than what we have done. i don't want to beat on what we have done. but what i see for the future of the country is not what the people i surround myself around either. they want to see positive things

in this country and the way we project ourselves working with other countries around the wormed. they want to see new -- world opportunities for business. we have young people missing school because they wanted to come here the governor speak. they want to know where the country is going. this is an opportunity and you can show the rest of the country what you think about the candidates running. i hope you will join me in supporting mike huckabee and look at his can daidacy and whae has done. he has a fabulous track record. i would ask you to not only plan to go out monday night and caucus but you have an opportunity, like so many others who will never meet andre bower or mike huckabee, but you have a lot of people to trust you and

if you tell them about your experience, based on your judgment and personal relationship with that. there are thousands upon thousands of votes sitting in the room if you utilize that friendship, relative, family member, coworker. all of those can make a difference but i hope you get engaged in the process personally and this is an opportunity to change where the country goes. i love the story a man walks into a doctor's office and has been bitten by a dog. doctor runs a few test and the dog gets rabies. he leans down and makes a list and the doctor comes back and sees him making the list. the doctor says, sir, you realize with modern medicine you are not going to die from rabies. you don't need to make out a will. and he said oh, i am not making out a will. i am making a list of the people i plan on biting. life is about attitude.

you can have a bad attitude or you can chose to make a difference. mike huckabee had a very successful, number one news show on the weekend in new york, making great money and lifestyle. i was his guest one time on the show. but he chose to give that up to try to make america better. and so, again, i appreciate the fact that you would engage in the process. it is exciting for me. i took off nine days from work, came out here and said use me were whatever purpose you want. i thought i would be putting up signs, licking envelopbushines instead they put me in front of a crowd. i tell people i got out of politics for health reasons; the voters got sick of me. but i do appreciate the fact you come out. young people coming out and it is exciting. i got involved as a small child when my parents took me around

and said we want you to formulate your own opinion but we want to expose you to the different candidates and policies and visions for what they want. never did i think in my wildest dreams i would meet a president, or candidate for president or a governor. we have a unique opportunity in iowa, like we do in north carolina, you get to see all of the people running. it is a unique experience for small world states. i don't remember how far out the governor is. they told me he is coming in. i would say throw governor huckabee a curve ball or difficult question. i have been on the stump with

him a lot of times. i supported him in 2008 and seen him answer any question thrown at him and not dodge an issue. throw out the toughest one he has. his answers haven't changed since '08 oand 8 ah s8 ah skoanf the state. you get to see the depth of the individual where you can throw them something different. i grew up with a great friendship with rockafeller and governor huckabee and when you get down to policy and seeing how effective someone can be. when you look at a legislature, and i think it was right at about 85% democrat majority in arkansas when i went out there that first time, to get things done under those conditions is extremely difficult. it speaks volumes of the fact it was over a hundred tax cuts.

>> as we sit in the restaurant it looks like everybody is about done eating. everybody wants to eat off a clean plate but not a whole lot of people want to do the dishes. the dishes require work. that right there, my friend, is a man who is willing to work for the people. i am excited about his candidacy and i hope after today you will be, too. >> thank you very much, andre. wow, this is packed in. i don't know if you can see but we had a big surprise as i walked in.

i found out my little granddaughter, three year old scarlet is over here with my wife. scarlet, can you wave at everybody? there you go. you are all dismissed i'm going to play with my granddaughter. that is such a joy. we were told she is going to come but then my daughter said she was running a fever and not coming. that was a rue. she didn't have a fever. she is fine. they did that to disappoint us and then bless us by having her show up. needless to say, my day got a lot better. are you going to eat that, ma'am? i am kidding. i promise i am kidding. i keep looking everybody and i think when i finish i will dismiss you and all and eat

pizza. thank you for crowding into jeff's pizza place in ames. we are just a few days away from the caucuses. i am grateful to have friends from around the country who came to show support. folks like andre bower. someone who spent his career as lieutenant governor primarily helping and working on policies for seniors and very committeded and dedicated to the task. a true public sufshervant. later you will meet the secretary of state from alabama. we brought all of these southern boys up here and introduced them to what snow looks like. we have been living in it in january. i used to laugh at people in the north when i would hear on television they would say some person has had a heart attack

shoveling snow. and i thought why would you shovel snow? it will melt tomorrow. we thought people out there shoveling snow, and why would they do that. i realized it doesn't go away the next day up here. one of the things i want to do is encourage you to do one of two things. if you are going to go and caucus for me, and i hope you do, and if you do, i hope you will fill out this little form right here that says i commit to caucus for mike. and you will leave it with us. and if you are going to do that,

please don't go alone. take a friend, relative, someone from work, a neighbor. and make sure they go with you to caucus for me. don't let anything keep away. twice as much snow, 30 degrees colder than today. whatever it is, go caucus for me. if, however, you were thinking about caucusing for one of those other 320 people running for president on the republican ticket. i would like to encourage you to stay home that night. because it is cold out there. and the snow is going to be falling and it could be dangerous and treacherous. stay home and watch it on television. don't risk getting out in that terrible weather. we are doing 150 events in january here in iowa.

i think the worst thing that happened to the process of politics is a handful of billionaires now control every campaign and ultimately control the agenda of-cross -- of grass in washington. there are three magic words i can use to help you get through the complexity congress i urge you to remember these three words: follow the money. ever wonder why things don't change much whether accurate or republicans in power? they keep raising the debt spending money they don't have, borrowing money they cannot pay back, taking care of the special interest, having no clue what people out in the heart land of america are experiencing.

i met a man in davonport last who came to my event. he and his wife make $59,000 a year. guess what their health insurance is going to cost them in 2016? somebody guess. give me a figure. >> $20,000? >> $15,000? >> >> sounds like an auction. $28,000. you guys split the difference here. there is no prize. he is spending half the entire income to have insurance for he and his wife. no children at home. nobody can afford that. this is what your country is

coming to. i meet people every day in iowa who had a good job at places like maytag and newton. those jobs got shipped to newton several years ago and they never found a replacement job for the good one they had. we lost five million manufacturing jobs in this country. 60,000 plants like the maytag plant have closed across america just in the past 15 years. i am telling you now when people are fully financed by the folks on wall street and the bank of americas of the world i don't care what they make. their television commercials or what they say in their speeches i guarantee you when they get to office they will continue to carry out the same policies that cost many americans their jobs and retirement.

they will say we may to cut your benefits or raise the wage you work without understanding they don't understand what social security is. it is not an entitlement. it is not welfare. it is an earned benefit you paid for when you worked and when you worked every time you got a paycheck someone took something out of your paycheck. i don't have to tell you. you remember. i could have enjoyed keeping that money but they took it away. when you get to be retired you can have your social security. it is not the

and they have already figured out what you are going to do. and know will be 1st, 2nd, 3rd. they have already announced it. nobody in iowa has even

voted yet. every four years there is a surprise and the iowa caucus. i am trusting you will help provide aa big surprise monday night when you go to caucus for me. and if you do not, where will you be? >> at home. >> at home. see, we are making great progress today. i also want to tell you about this little sticker for your car. there are couple of reasons. once your friends no how smart you are we are getting reports from all over the country when people put the stickers on the car there getting better gas mileage.

i cannot guarantee you will get those results, but try them for we can see whether or not that works. i am going to take some questions and a moment. just visit with you a few moments. i have a friend from arizona, texarkana arkansas who were here somewhere in the crowd. one of 15 republicans henhouse of 100 people. understands what it was like for me to govern in a state that was 90 percent democrat. he knows what i did to fight the political machine to when office and do it repeatedly, to keep winning and is witness to the fact that not only did i challenge the political

machine, defeated repeatedly, bg here as proof that i lived to tell about it. which may be significant of all. so if you want someone who can challenge hillary clinton in the election i hear some of the other republicans say, i can't wait to take on hillary. that is because you have never done it. you have seen him on the television show home improvement, the santa claus the movie, maymovie, may have seen his stand up in vegas or recently at carnegie hall, great friend. you will get the accent, probably from new york. some of his friends, as he will tell you -- i will let him tell you where they are today and his family. i am so delighted.

they were just laughing about that a moment ago. to give you some real good fun i want to give a few minutes to my friend. [applause] and be nice to these people. i am trying to win their votes. >> this smells good. >> what is this? [laughter] >> no offense.

i am getting dizzy. italian people don't eat every 11 minutes. it is over. can i have a bite? thank you very much. >> could somebody order me a diet coke? anybody want an audible. [laughter] i put on a few pounds. i am on a new diet. great. this is where you hide people like me. how do you hire a guy like me.

>> can you run around i come from one of those neighborhoods in new york where we had a lot of crime but no one ever heard or saw anything. this many people here with an ice pick sticking out of his back, i don't know, looks like a heart attack. they got grabbed his chest and fell on a 17 times. i'm working happy are. one more. this is good. anyway, what do you work for? the fbi?

you know what it stands for? ever bothering italians. thank you. can you said with this guy? actually, no matter where we are from what i love of all people is we have something in common. you know what that is? stupidity. why is it when you're driving your car you have to turn the radio down when you're looking for something.something. honey comeau we are lost. turn the radio down. you all do this. you get real quiet. don't look at the gauge. turnç the radio down. i don't wantw3 to get lost. am i right?

>> what the hell are you writing? >> whatever. anybody read chinese? you are a good sport. give me a diet coke. before i leave, folks, i want to tell you something. >> what are you, afraid? what happened? in the back with the other. i am kind of getting nervous. what happened to the comedian? a heart attack. >> i'm kidding.

i am here because i was on the show about three years ago and remember and 08, i did not know who he was. that guy, i like that guy. that realness comes out. getting to know the governor , i am honored to be here. the other people, what you get comeau what you see is not what you are going to get. don't say nothing because he can have me whacked. this guy, what you see is what you get. i am a christian now. let's count those votes. but what did jesus say? don't do nothing until i get back.

half of them don't know what a teamster is. i am honored to be here because this man is the real deal. hold signs and all that. this is where it's at right here. this is the hope we have. this is the reagan of our era. so please support him. i love him. i'm going to do my 1st, watch cnn. i will be blowing out. and make sure you vote for

him because i will follow each and every one of you to the booth. we don't want no heart attack. god bless you guys and god bless our next president, mike huckabee. [applause] >> i ami am going to buy you an entire pizza to replace the slice he just devoured. great friends who traveled to be here with us today. what we are asking you to do is talk to your friends and explain how important it is iowa makes a decision not based on the money but the future of our country. why amcountry. why am i running? because i walked away from a pretty decent life after almost 20 something plus years of hardball talk politics and estate were republicans never got elected and i was only the 4th want to be elected,

the only one of the capitol, when he got elected got to his office and got it nailed shut before i could get in, the one that had to deal with the most lopsided legislature and all the country, more than massachusetts or vermont or main or new jersey. and then after the 2,008 election ended up doing a television show getting back to my 1st job which is -- which was in radio. and esau 20 percent of the reason just a moment ago. five grandkids. she is one of the five. doing it because i worry about the country we are about to hand to them. i was blessed to live in this nation but more so to have parents and grandparents who made

incredible sacrifices so that the country they gave to me was better than the one they grew up in. i feel like i did because they told me so much about it. maybe you know that feeling. but i want you to understand, iunderstand, i did not grow up wealthy comeau well connected. my mother grew up oldest of seven children in a house with no floor, just dirt. his father didn't and his father before him didn't. i am the 1st male in my lineage to do it much less go to college. don't look far up the family tree. of course ii had to look and found out the old man is right. but my parents and grandparents gave me a much better america and a much better opportunity in life.

a country that is deep into debt most ofthe paychecks will go to pay the interest on the debt. country that if i can afford to go to college they will have to take out huge loans. as shipped so many jobs that they may never enjoy the level of opportunity and an optimistic view of having the employment options many of us have had, and i am going to tell you something, i feel like i/o something to my parents and grandparents for the sacrifices made and something to my grandchildren, and i, and i do not want to sacrifice their future for my own comfort.

this election is about getting america back on track monetarily so that we can grow the economy again and make it so that americans who work get something for that. it is about getting this country back on track militarily so that we rebuild a decimated military that now has half the number of ships that my grandfather knew and world war i when he served on a u.s. navy destroyer, half the smallest number of troops that we have had since before pearl harbor and in our air force we have people flying right now that are older i am. an air force pilot flying of and b-52 that his father flew in the 1980s. we need to have that kind of military force because that is the way that we make it

so that sons and daughters don't have to go to work. in addition to getting things back in step monetarily and militarily let me unapologetically say i believe we have to get this country back morally. wewe cannot be a great country if we are not a good country and we can be a great country if we don't understand what made us a great country was a good and generous people. we were a people that did not need a big government because we have big hearts and took care of families and friends and neighbors. i am convinced one of the things that has hurt this country is wildly rail against good government and take $0.50 out of every dollar we aren't, if those of us who call ourselves followers of christ, if we

would give a dime out of a dollar that we aren't and what ought to be our bare minimum obligation and if we took care of the poor, widows, orphans through churches and generosity we would do more with a dime out of each dollar than the government would with 56 cents out of each dollar we aren't which is how you get government smaller. and we would solve a lot more of the issues of poverty than we ever will with government programs that entrap people in poverty and never let them out. let me take your questions, and i will do my best to answer them. >> my name is robert, student at the university. i am also a believer.

preempt the issue of younger generations because not only in the secular world but also have my own church and various other churches, there seems to be a dissolution for ignorance or hostility for concerns of belief. on the christian side there are a lot of issues brought up talked about moral values , particularly the sanctity of marriage. and so how do we particularly with our evangelical people how do we get them back? you know --

>> a great question. how do we get young people to be interested not just politically but morally, getting our country back and particularly evangelical and wants to make sure younger people have a sense of perspective and that they are involved and mentions the difference between how many people rail against same-sex marriage but said nothing about the growing divorce rate among traditional married couples and the church and robert is right. those of us who are believers comeau we have not been the salt and light. a difference between being a thermometer and a thermostat a thermometer reads the temperature of the room and reflects it.

most of the time culture is a reflection. it does not change people. people change the culture. when we live as thermometers and elect people in political offices they take a poll my find out what it is people think and believe and reflect what people think and belief. what we really need our thermostats the purpose of which is to read the temperature and adjust. i understand if i am going to tune my guitar i do not tune the tuning fork to the guitar. i tune the guitar. when we try to change the truth the eternal truth of what is right and wrong why's center isthere is a moral issue. when we try to move the moral standards to meet culture it is as ridiculous

as trying to tune the tuning fork to the instrument rather than turning the instrument to the tuning fork. pope john paul ii. and years ago he was being interviewed. your holiness, please explain how the church can be more relevant, maybe change its views and positions because it is so out of step with culture. don't you think that the world should modernize and be more progressive? and the pope said to the reporter who was interviewing and the question was raised, don't you think that the church should change it standards point the pope's response was my son the church is the standard. what a brilliant answer. i wish i had said it.

but since i did not i will quote him. >> empowering people at the bottom command the reason i am a passionate advocate is because that is exactly what it would do. transform the tax from punishing productivity by taxing everything we do that is productive. even inheritance.

with the fair tax the people in the bottom 3rd of the economy benefit the most by 14 or 15 percent over where they are today. people in the middle of the economy been a 17 or 18 percent. instead of it being our aggressive tax, here is what happens. today our tax system punishes the guy. i met a guy in a machine shop, an eight hour a day guy i started working a

double shift, 16 hours a day okay. i'm working 16 hours, double shift, double paycheck. he didn't get a double amount of pay because working double meant he had bumped into a new tax bracket and at the governmentof the government got as much of his 2nd shift is heated. rather than benefiting double for double work the government benefited from double work, he did not. this is fundamentally wrong. the people of the top tell lower rate of tax and the people who are working for wage.

passive investments rather than a wage. under the fair tax everybody pays tax at the retail level. and let me tell you something else, you only deal with the illegal immigration issue. have you ever wondered why

republicans nor democrats ever deal with that or fix it? because back to my three magic words of politics, follow the money. here is how. there is an economic advantage in hiring an illegal. i am sure you are worth more, but we are going to take things out of your paycheck for income tax and payroll tax, social security, medicare, so on. if i hire you and you are an illegal immigrant, i don't think you are, but i need to see your green card to make sure. the couple of things are happening. i am underpaying but i have to pay end. there's another reason you aren't going to tell. as the employer you want to

fix illegal immigration change the rule so that you don't make it economically advantageous to hire an illegal. >> medicare is a complicated issue. in other countries such as canada or europe, but most of the research and many of the medications are made here. why is it so you can go to

canada and by it more cheaply than here. >> it is true. how can you buy them cheaper in canada than here. there is one particular reason, the regulatory environment to get a drug to market is so very restrictive and costs so much to bring to market that we have two things that jack up the price. one of them is that the r&d cost has to be recovered within seven years before the drug can become generic. secondly, the pharmaceutical manufacturer has to set aside billions of dollars because of somebody has some type of issue with the drug it could be 18 years later,

but if they have an issue the liability, the lawsuit is such that they have to protect themselves, and i'm not trying to let big pharma off the hook. did they ever make a nice deal but the importation of canadian drugs will be a great benefit to a lot of american consumers. having a situation where we limit and put a capitation on punitive damages, not actual damages and make it so that there is a reasonable way in which people who spend a lot of money developing a drug will be able to recover so that they have the incentive to recover more.

it is now ours and we will give it to you a dollar bill by disease. these four drive the biggest growth of healthcare dollars in america and we approach it with the same intensity as the moon landing in the 60s and try to see the same results as we saw when polio was eradicated in my

childhood. have to get behind one. now much money we spent? nothing. we don't have it. we cured it, eradicated it and save hundreds of billions because we do not have to treat polio. thank god for that. imagine what it would be if we found a cure. that would transform not only the healthcare system but the economy of america. >> i would like to hear how they came about being so

pro- ethanol. >> a question about ethanol. it is rare. usually the government comes up with something that fails. this time they came up with an idea to create standards so that we would move to greener and cleaner fuels and you something sustainable and renewable and that would be able to help reduce our dependence upon foreign oil which we were depending a lot on, particularly middle eastern oil which funded the very people who build madrasahs. and so it looked like a reasonable idea. they government put a renewable renewable fuel standard, over the course of the next several years we have to blend into fuel renewable fuels.

because the government created the mandate billions were spent building the infrastructure that came from plants. the production of oil and feed, the husks thrown away. those are now turned into ethanol. nothing is wasted, stabilizes the cup for the farmer the people who go to

work in the industry of refining, 75,000 jobs. here's the best thing to my government mandate that worked. the octane and methanol is higher than traditional fuel. how many of you knew that every nascar vehicle runs exclusively on ethanol? who do that? a couple of us. make sure they had a good market for their crop that

reduces dependence on foreign oil and reward the people who invested billions in the the infrastructure of ethanol. why would anyone vote for someone who will help potentially cost iowa 75,000 jobs and make neighbors dependent upon you to make up for lost jobs. it would be like coming to the state of arkansas and suggesting people quit shopping at walmart and no one ought to ever eat rice were taken again? you would be in essence insulting a large portion of the population of my state and the economy of it. i would ask, people of iowa think very carefully. 20 percent of our entire states economy is agriculture.

the day we don't have a strong agricultural foundation in our country is the day we quit being free. hostage to whoever is putting food on the table. the best, most efficient, safest food supply and the entire world. okay. someone else? >> i would like to move the conversation back to healthcare. >> abraham lincoln me go back to the 60s and all know what woodstock is. america.

i believe the american institute structuring word drug dealing when you see a pharmaceutical advertisement then is that accurate? >> when you 1st use the word woodstock, i know about it. i remember when it happened for sure. the soundtrack was great. there is an important point. the relationship of pharmaceuticals in the cost, someone once observed that it will be hard for us to ever balance the budget when 10,000 aging hippies retire a day and find out they can

give free drugs on medicare part d. but what you point out, if you advertise drugs and tell people the symptoms and self diagnose they don't go to the dr. and say i have a pain in my shoulder. and the balance between free marketplace, free speech and responsible healthcare, if you don't have any vested interest will never control the cost. here is what i mean by that. your employer employer does not on your health insurance, you do.

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i'm curious as an evangelical if you do and not how i can trust you when it comes to antibacterial resistant microbes and things that are developing. >> let me see if i get this right. evangelicals microbiological infections. >> involving because they are becoming resistant. >> i will try to figure out how to put that together. if the question is how i feel about the origins of the earth i believe in the

beginning god created the heavens and the earth. how i could not answer. i was not there. the bible does not give me all of the details. how long did it take? i don't know. i just don't. but i don't think that this magnificent design we have, i am always in just absolute all of how nature works and whether it is the animals who intuitively know more than we do about when danger is coming. my dogs since things that we do not. the human body is an incredible instrument. i think nothing with that level of intense designed to be there within designer. i just don't. other people think that can

happen by itself? okay. i am not going to argue. it makes more sense. it takes less of a faithfully for me to believe there's a designer to the design them to believe everything i see in this magnificently ordered universe is a sheer accident. as it relates to things like resistant strains of bacteria, we are living in a world that is always in a state of change. we cannot deny that. and we need change not only in how things function -- people are taller than they used to be, heavier than they used to be. wewe might be able to control that, but we are taller. there is a certain level of undisputed will change, some of it as we develop drugs that are supposed to help us someone has to come up with

something knew. that is part of the cycle and circle of life. i marvel at how it works. i do not have the answers. anyone who says they do,do, let me know. i have never met anyone that smart. i know what i don't know. the person you need to be afraid of, the guy who does not know what he doesn't know. that is the guy who will get you killed. the guy who does not know what he does not know will believe that he knows things that he does not know. and he will put you in danger that you do not have to be in. one needs to surround him or herself with people who can fill in gaps, and i had to do that as governor.

ten and a half years i served i never assumed i assumed i was the only person who knew anything. ii wanted a cabinet of people not necessarily agreed with what i believed the people who knew things i did not know and in the midst of a crisis i wanted them to tell me what they knew that i did not know. i cannot when the caucus without your vote. i will go through this one more time. i hope you will go caucus for me because it is a smart, reasonable, thoughtful thing to do. you fill out this card and tell us that. if you are, again, for some unreasonable reason not going to do that where will you be monday night? home. this has been a productive and lovely day. thank you. thank you.

thank you. you are stuck over there. [inaudible conversations] >> now, i get it wholeheartedly. i do. i was actually there. >> the soundtrack was terrific. >> how are you doing? thank you for being here today. [inaudible conversations] >> thank you for coming. appreciate it. >> the white house. >> i have already told roger ailes that i would. thank you for coming. i hope i did not pick on you too badly. sure. how are you doing? thank you for coming. >> thirty-one years.

>> come here, sweetie. she does not like me. i love this little girl. >> not surprised to have her show up. >> way ahead of us. >> part of this photo. >> thanks again for coming. god bless you. kind of toilet -- tight quarters. >> outstanding. >> really. >> how are you doing? thank you for being here.

thank you, and a great question, too. thanks. >> governor of minnesota. >> thanks. >> yeah. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

[inaudible conversations] >> no doubt about that. [inaudible conversations] >> i am not specifically aware. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> the one discrepancy was this, saddam hussein used gas. right. but i do not want to dismiss that. that i cannot. yeah. >> how does that overlap? >> i cannot answer that because i do not know.

>> what year. >> september 2002. >> all right. >> the whole memo. >> i appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >> not going to happen. >> thank you. i am glad that you came. >> one more. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

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>> we are going to keep her right there. >> sure. >> thank you very much. >> hey, thanks. >> hi. how are you? >> sure. >> thank you. [inaudible conversations]

[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> up next another republican presidential candidate, but voter turnout key to clinton sanders battle for iowa. with hillary clinton maintaining a lead.

democratic candidates are spending the final days trying to increase the number of supporters who will participate. polls suggest a heavy turnout will benefit sanders if turnout is low the edge goes to clinton. nbc news wall street merit poll shows clinton has a small edge 48 percent to 45 percent. c-span talked with students at simpson college, a small liberal arts school south of des moines. >> host: participating in the fact check project in the political science department. tell us about what you did. >> guest: i fact checked rick santorum that

immigration is causing wages to be depressed. whatwhat we found is overall that part of it was over emphasized and other factors are causing this. >> guest: you fact checked, aschecked, as well. what do you think that students get out of it? >> we tend to come up you know, be nerds and do research anyway, but it was important that we did one from each party. looking at our own party and the claims that we were making. >> what is the other had you where? how do you manage that in a year where there are so many republican candidates? >> we tried to approach that by saying yes.

we have been really lucky and iowa is important. doing a lot of volunteering for different candidates. >> who are you supporting? >> bernie sanders. >> one of the reasons you came is because you wanted to be here as part of the action as it takes place. tell us about your role in that. >> jeb bush and hillary clinton. >> the c-span bus is in iowa ahead of monday caucuses to spread the world.

c-span all hands on deck as we prepare for our coverage of the iowa caucuses. martin o'malley stopped by. students and professors hang out while martin o'malley is interviewed. marco rubio supporters tweeted hello from iowa state university traveling with the c-span bus. >> of one-on-one discussion about pres. obama's legacy with "washington post" columnist eugene robinson tonight at 8:00 o'clock eastern.

>> three republican presidential candidates. jeb bush and been carson in iowa city. 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span with the iowa caucuses three days away. >> skipping the debate donald trump held a campaign rally and fundraiser for veterans. fellow candidates spoke at the event along with campaign supporters.

♪ [applause] ♪ >> that is so nice. thank you. we love our vets. thank you, everybody. sit down, please. we had about 24 hours to put this together. it was quick, andquick, and we are here for special people. this is an honor, and i did not want to be here. i wanted to be about five minutes away. i have enjoyed that. i have had a cake with it, but you have to stick up for your rights. [applause] you must do it.

and whether we like it or not and whether it is something we want to do are not, as an example, a ran, one of the worst deals i have ever seen negotiated and we just take it. we have to stick up for the people and the country when we are being mistreated. they want me there. we thought we would let them start look at all the cameras.

this is the academy award. we are told we have more cameras than they do. [applause] you know what, that is an honor, but they have been nice and wanted me to go and apologize and everything else. for me personally is it good, bad? no one knows, but it is for our veterans. we raised over 5 million in one day. so that is not so bad. you know, my whole theme is make america great again. we would not be here if it

were not for our veterans being mistreated. it is not going to happen anymore. [applause] once this started rolling, we could not stop it. this took place less than 24 hours. less than 24 hours to do this. i will not do that but -- duty debate, but i love iowa and i am here. i did not know we were going to raise 5 million. we actually raised close to six. more to come. donald trump for veterans .com. they have faced almost 500 million. we have incredible people. i want to call out folks

that gave a lot of money. it is a subject. first we must talk about people that made money. they would notthey would not even be here if it were not for the veterans of our military because they have more guts than you do. differing kind of god's. carl icon gave $500,000. one quick phone call. great builder in new york gave $100,000. donald trump another great builder in new york and now politician, a politician. i don't want to be called the politician kemal talk no action. donald trump gave $1 million. [applause]

the family of new york gave 75,000. a great fan and friend, 100,000. a very good friend of mine in person. he was out there. give me a million bucks. why? and he wanted to be anonymous. he has changed. you know i am talking about. ..

here is a beautiful place but we have thousands of people outside that weren't as good as real estate, i will tell you. but we have thousands of people trying to get in. we set up cameras, we set up screens, we have everything. but i will tell you, you look at that, i love the protestors in the big arenas because the cameras never move, they're always on my face. i say to my wife, malania, honey, stand up. she has to suffer through this. they with never let me like the

other politicians, look at them. it's like crazy. but i say, how did i do, were they great, were there many people, like in the mavericks' arena, mobile, alabama, 35,000 people. we get the biggest crowd by far, much bigger than bernie, i have to say he is second. no other republican, we get the biggest crowds. they never show the crowd. and i realize they never turn the camera. and i always say, i figure new cameras, the only way you find out that they're not fixed, they're like pretzels. they turn. but they don't want to show the crowd. it's one of those things. so we have a rich man from new york, a good guy who has become a little bit reclusive.