coast guard and another measure dealing with child sex trafficking. tomorrow, another vote on repealing portions of the health care law. the senate meets at 3:00 to continue debate on u.s. energy policy, a number of amendments pending there. you can watch the house live on c-span and the senate live right here on c-span2. and a look at the road to the white house on the day of the first in the nation presidential caucuses in iowa. texas senator ted cruz has been visiting all of iowa's 99 counties ahead of tonight's caucuses. he'll be visiting the final one on his list today, that's greene county iowa, as jessica hopper with abc news reports. and rand paul is traveling with iowa senator chuck grassley. senator paul tweeting this picture earlier of breakfast with chuck grassley and 150 of our closest friends. and democrat martin o'malley with volunteers who are canvassing today and will be caucusing tonight for the former maryland governor. >> the exhibit first in the

nation shaping presidential politics since 1972, you began in 1972 when you put this campaign together. >> that's correct. senator from maine, edmund musky, was the presumed democraticwa favorite. senator mcgovern goes on to get the democratic nomination in 972, so even at that time iowa was shaping presidential politics. >> 160i pieces in this exhibit including well known campaigns and some less well known. >> that's right.lu in 2008 representative john cox from illinois came to iowa hoping to catch fire. he would go to parades, hand out bags of potato chips with his stickers on them, and so we hava got an example of that in our display. >> and how did you get some of these exhibits? o what's the story behind some of them and where -- how they ended upyo in your collect? >> a lot o of them come from everyday iowans, but also there will be peoplee who are active n campaigns. so jay howe, who was from

greenfield, iowa, was active in the jesse jackson campaign, so we've got a caucus sign for him. we also have a 1988 press jacket showing how things have changed in marketing a candidate today. >> take us through the marketing of some of the more modern campaigns. >> sure. we've got a lot of fun things from the post-2000 era. so you'll see items like a mitt romney foam baseball mitt, you know, the standard t-shirt from bill bradley in the year 2000, rudy giuliani in 2008, mailers are still common for candidates, and the press packets that relate to candidates today andes the. activities today. so we've r got those sorts ofd artifacts in the exhibit as well. >> and one of the more interesting pieceses i saw were two coffee cans. >> the caucuses are run by each party, so they're very nature, and these are two examples of ballot boxes

fromom a precinct in warren couy just south of des moines. and the republican party captain in that precinct just grabbed a couple coffee cans to use. >> and a handmade sign as well. >> that's right. so theco caucus locations will open at 6:30. there'll be over 1600 across the state. but to let people know what time doors open, a precinct captain may hand paint a sign. >> and you can follow tonight's results here on the c-span network starting at 7:00 eastern time with a preview and a look at how the system in iowa works. we'll also be taking your phone calls, tweets and texts. and at 8:00 eastern, live coverage from the caucus sites across iowa from a democratic caucus here on c-span2, and republican caucus meeting. >> every election cycle we're reminded how important it is for citizens to be informed. c-span is a vehicle for

empowering people to make good choices. it really is like you're getting a seven-course, five-star meal of policy and, boy, do i just sound like a nerd right there, but it's true. >> to me, c-span is a home for political junkies and a way to track the government as it happens. >> most staffers seem to have a television on their desk, and c-span is on. i think it's a great way for us to stay informed. >> i urge my colleagues to vote for this amendment. there are a lot of c-span fans on the hill. my colleagues. when i go back today, they're going to say, i saw you on c-span. >> you can get something like the history of grain elevators in pennsylvania -- [laughter] or landmark supreme court decisions. >> good morning, chairman chaffetz. >> there's so much more that c-span does in terms of its programming to make sure that people outside the beltway know

what's going on inside it. >> i am proud to announce -- >> i announce my candidacy -- >> i am officially running -- >> for president of the united states! [cheers and applause] >> i'm a reporter who covers politics, and for so many of my stories in "the washington post" c-span has been part of my research, providing me with quotes and insight about people. >> there are so many niches within the political blogosphere, and all of these policy areas get covered. >> how many nuclear warheads does russia have aimed at the u.s. and the u.s. have aimed at russia? >> it's a place that i can go that lets me do the thinking and do the decision making. >> we follow tons of c-span here, house meetings, senate meetings, all sorts of tough. >> good morning, everyone. phone lines are open. >> the interaction with callers on c-span is great. you never know what you're going to get. >> you're right, i'm from down south, and i'm your mother.

and i disagree that all families are like ours. [laughter] i don't know many families that are fighting at thanksgiving. >> and welcome to booktv's live coverage of the 32nd annual miami book fair. >> we're on location -- >> c-span on the weekend, it becomes booktv. >> and it's been a wonderful way of accessing the work of those folks who are writing really great books. >> every weekend c-span3 becomes american history tv. you're a history junkie, you've got to watch. >> whether we're talking about a congressional hearing or we're talking about an era in history, there's so much information that you can convey if you've got that kind of programming. >> whether it's at the capital or on the campaign trail, they have a camera, they're capturing history as it happens. it brings you inside of these chambers, inside of the conversations on capitol hill and lets you have a seat at the

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[applause] >> i am too. well, i just want to say what a great turnout. i'm congressman adam kinzinger, i'm actually from your neighboring state of illinois. iowa, by the way, looks a lot like illinois, and it's great to be here. believe it or not, there are republicans from illinois. yeah. [laughter] >> we've got a republican governor now. let me just say, first off, i'll tell you just quickly how i got into politics. i was a military pilot. i still am, i fly for the air national guard. and iusus remember in may of 20i left iraq and made the decision, i saw president obama had beengu elected, and i made the decision at that time, you know what? we're in a a pretty dark momentn history. there's a lot of concerns, there was talk about nationalized health care which ended up happening, we had a debt and deficit spiraling out of control and all these things were going on. and everybody was pessimistic, including me. i came back and decided to run for congress not because i was buried in the pessimism of the

future of the country, but because i knew we'd have to go through some pretty tough years, but ultimately, america will on the other side even stronger than wewa went in. that's why i defended my country in the military, that's why i ran for congress, and that's why i continue to do what i do today. you know, it was about a year ago i was taking a look just personally at who was talking about running foro president of the united states because there's no doubt in my mind that this is the most important t election cycle definitely in my short life of 37 years but probably, i'd say, even longer than that. and one of the people that really stood out to me was a man named jeb bush.op we all knew him, we had read about him, and we were excited about him. a but iad started to look at what the candidates were saying.we and the thing that struck me about governor bush was he basically said, w look, i'm goig to tellbo y'all the truth. i'm optimistic. i believe in the future of this country. i believe that people that are born into poverty can find a way out and lift themselves to be as successful as everybody wants to

be, because this is the greatest country in the world. and it struck me that in a time of kind of dark pessimism in this country similar to 1979, by the way, when jimmy carter was president and all this stuff was going on, i realized that in this dark time we need a leader who's not just going to reflect our angerer back at us and makes even angrier, but who's going to understand that anger and show us a way out and show us a way ahead and show us how to leave our kidsut and grandkids a cound even far better than the one we were amazingly blessed to inherit ourselves. and that man, by the way, was governor bush.zi and i saw that, and i fell in love with the message of optimism and the message of hope. and i was one of the first people to endorse him before heo even announced for president, so it's a good thing he ran -- [laughter] or else i would have looked pretty stupid. but, you know, the guy that still flies for the military and, you know, works with brave, honorable young men and women, the thing that strikes me for 250 years this country has put

blood, sweat, toil and many people have given their lives to make america what it is today. and there are some people that will have you to believe that that 250 years of american history and that dream that has been amazing and been fulfilled, thatha god-given purpose that we have somehow dies now. that america's best days are behind us. everybody's stupid, everybody'sy dumb, and we may as well just accept that we were a nation of just good now and not any longer great. that's not true. same american people -- the same american people that in 1979 heard an optimistic message of a shining city on a hill, of a purpose when they were in double-digit interest rates, we had just left vietnam, the russians looked more powerfulpu than ever -- sounds kind of familiar, doesn't it? a guy named ronald reagan came along and compelled the americah people to a vision of what they couldt achieve. not because he especially said a have amazing talents, but because he could compel people to that.

and in 1989 as he's giving his t farewell address to the nation, everybody realizes one thing. he says, to paraphrase, i don't know if i ever described what i meant by a shining city on aea hill, but what i meant was a kid graduating from high school or college and being able to provide for his family, being able toro buy a house. in america people that live behind not just the iron curtain of communism but everything else, look at us as an inspirational notion of c what they can achieve. and what's amazing is as he was giving that speech, people realized, holy cow, in just eight years we accomplished everything he set out to accomplish. ladies and gentlemen, we're in a tough time in our country right now. andd we deserve way better than what we've been dealt for the last seven years. and there is one man in this race that i believe in strong enough, that h i believe in, tht i believe has the optimism ande the understanding of what's going on, of what needs to bedi done. ladies and gentlemen, i'm proudd to endorse and i'm proud to

introduce the next president ofi the united states, governor jeb bush! [cheers and applause] >> thank you, adam. thank you so much. thank you for campaigning with me all across in this country. adam's main job is to do the morning shows after the debates. [laughter] today was a little easier for him than the previous debates, i think, so -- [laughter] [applause] we're delighted -- thank you for your service. i've got, wanted to recognize my, two of my three children that i love more than i can describe to you, jeb jr., 2.0 as we call him, and noel, my daughter, is back there. [applause] i want to tell you two stories and then open it up. these are stories about leadership. when i, when i announced my

campaign, i wanted to talk about the things that are broken and how we can fix them so people can rise up again. and we began to get our attacks on our country again, and national security has become more and more of an issue. something that i think is important for us to talk about because we can't restore economic growth unless we're secure as a nation. and today we see what happens when we pull back. hillary clinton believes that just a third term of the foreign policy of barack obama's okay, that we've got isis right where we want 'em, that, you know, that the reset button with russia was going to work out. as president obama said, that russia was just a regional power, not to worry. thirty days later, they invade ukraine. we see the politics of grandiosity, of big language without backing it up, and our friends no longer believe we have their back, and our enemies no longer fear us. and we now are in a world that is far more dangerous than the world that barack obama was inaugurated. i got to give a speech at the

citadel in charleston, sj, a military school, and i laid out a vision for how we can restore america's presence in the world. it was a blast going to this place because the great majority of these students are going to go serve in the military, the marines, the navy, the air force, the coast guard. they're doing -- they're going to to the school because they want to show their love of country. they're patriots. i was required to go with the guards for a little pt, they called it. physical therapy. [laughter] and, you know, i'm 62. i'm in pretty good shape for my age, but they're 21 -- [laughter] so after about 50 sit-ups and 25 push-ups, i thought we were finished. then we did more call thennics, and then i thought we were finished and they said, all right, we're going to run in unison for three miles. i played like it was no big deal, i was collapsing, but they circled around and said you want

to be president, you want to be in commander in chief. will you have my back? you're going to be president, what's america's role in the world? as commander in chief, will you defend and support the military? all the questions that you would expect someone in the next two or three years to go serve in the military. here's what i told them, and i told them in this speech, i will be a commander in chief that will respect the military. i won't impose political considerations on top of the war fighters. i'll get the lawyers off the backs of the war fighters. and when we fight, it should be in our own national security interests that we do it. i wear this band of chris horton who died as a sniper in afghanistan. i got it from his wife, so remind me that this is not -- i'm not talking about a video game here. the next president has to be serious, has to have a steady hand, has to understand that what we should achieve is peace through strength. not to be a war-mongering nation, not to be the world's policeman, but to create security for our own people and,

therefore, get back to the business of creating high, sustained economic growth are where people can rise up again. i told them that, and they seemed to appreciate it. which means, by the way, we have to rebuild the military. we have seen through sequester the so-called victory of having automatic cuts disproportionately on the military. the sequester, if continued on, will make the army 420,000 troops. it will not send b a signal of seriousness for the world. we need to get back to 490,000. we need to build the military, the marines back up to the levels of readiness. half of the marines that are stationed in the united states right now don't meet the definition of readiness. the marines. we have an air force, adam is a fantastic pilot. the air force -- now, he's young, don't get me wrong, but the air force, the planes are older than the pilots. the b-52 was launched during the era of harry truman. we've got to modernize our equipment, we need to increase

the training. we need to be serious about making our national security our first priority which means we have to deal with the new threats as well, the threat of terror. there is a net a that the president -- threat that the president thinks needs to be dealt with as a law enforcement exercise, that somehow they've declared war on us, but we can't even call it for what it is. it is islamic radical terrorism. they're designing their activities to destroy western civilization, to take away our freedom by attacking the vulnerability of our freedom. we need to be vigilant and strong, and we need to take out isis in the caliphate that it exists rather than playing defense here at home. that's what we need to do. .. strategy. you want a leader who knows what he doesn't know. at these debates, people talk like this is a game. "we are going to carpet bomb." really? you're going to carpet bomb

mosul? we have to have a strategy. idaho to do this. -- i know how to do this. of the fact that my dad was the president of the united states and my brother was the president of the united states. they knew how to keep us safe. [applause] the second story, [applause] the second story and then we'll open it up is another story of leadership and it is a story being governor. governors have an interesting job. it's not like being president, but it is kind of like it because you have to make tough decisions. when i was governor weight balance the budget eight years in a road. it was a requirement. there was no argument. we didn't play some artificial game. we live within our means. the objective in florida was personal income would grow far faster than government income and that is what we achieved. i was one of two states are in

my time to go from aa to aaa bond rating because we applied conservative principles each and everyday. we fully funded pension. we didn't take nonrecurring revenue to spend on recurring obligations. the way i viewed it was the budgeting process of how it went about our business was like a kitchen table budget. not all this weird stuff that nobody understands in the language. it was a simple thing. we were taken as much money as we needed to fund the principal obligations of government. we would cut taxes to give it back to the raspy at $19 billion of tax cuts. when i left there is $9 billion in reserve. they called me vito corleone he because i vito 2500 separate line items. not because i wanted to be the big dog on the stage like tarzan here. it was because there was a principle behind this. you can spend many don't have. you have to live within the means of that the people you serve. that kind of time as governor i learned also that you can't just ask is the way and talk away things when there is a

challenge. life doesn't work out as it always has planned, does it? sometimes you have eight hurricanes and four tropical storms and 16 months. that is what i had. we had $150 billion of insured and uninsured losses. we had over a million to 200,000 homes that were uninhabited. we had people that were living paycheck to paycheck that no longer had anything. i will never forget i met a woman that had the largest mobile home park in the world, barefoot bay it is called in east central florida. the place is devastated. these are manufactured storms. this woman was wearing a salvation army sweatshirt and she came and gave me a hug and she didn't let go. i mean, she just gave me a hug. she was crying and i was consoling her. i said what happened? she said i'm volunteering for the salvation army.

why? i lost everything and felt it was the best way to give back. there are thousands and thousands of stories during my time as governor. where i left you didn't talk about it. i did it. it is different when you are governor when you want to leave. it is not like filing an amendment and calling it a success. it's not talking about in changing your views for public sentiment changes. when you are later, you have a focus on moving towards the flyers to take it out, to solve the problems. and that is what we needed washington d.c. right now. eight hurricanes and for tropical storms taught me you've got to be all in the job. i do count down clock in my second term in a backwards all the weight is zero. i spent four years -- my last four years with the same passion and conviction i had my first four years and we accomplished a lot.

when i saw a problem i didn't say the dog ate my homework. it was somebody else's fault. look at the shiny object and maybe it will go away. i didn't blame benghazi on a videographer and then lie to the family members. we need people that are leaders again to solve these problems, that will accept personal responsibility. the first place we should do it is in the veterans administration. i promise you when i'm president of united states heads will roll until we get a ride. veterans deserve far better care than they are getting today. [applause] so if you are looking for someone who's got a proven record, a proven consistent conservative record across the board, whether it be issues of life, not political to me. this is important by my faith. i converted to catholicism on easter saturday in 1995. it was one of the great moments of my life.

they are all a package deal. if you are looking for someone who believes in cutting taxes rather than raising taxes and conservative principles of limited government and personal responsibility of individual liberty. if you're looking for someone that has the record and will apply those principles detailed plan, who has a back bone and a heart for people. i hope you will caucus for me at 7:00 a.m. -- 7:00 p.m. comics. don't go at 7:00 a.m. monday. i won't let you down. i am running for president because you're on the verge of the greatest time to be alive and i want to fulfill every generation has been able to fulfill wishes to provide opportunities for the next generation raider than what they had. we are on the verge of doing this but we've got to change the direction of this country and i think i can do it with you and i

hope you'll join me. thank you all very much. [applause] here is a question right here. >> as president you will have openings on the u.s. supreme court. we'll consider barack obama as nominee? [laughter] you've obviously been watching the democratic debate. i was pretty threat taking. i put that in a pan or category. no. >> what is your plan for providing safe reliable affordable energy for the future? >> we need to have a diversity of supply of energy in that market decide this more than anything else. we drove through here from des

moines and there's wind turbines all over the place. today you can build when capacity at a rate that is competitive without the tax credit because there's been massive innovation. my guess is as the novel had the exact same reduction and markets work. we shouldn't protect any source of energy because of the tax code. my tax plan to eliminate depletion allowances and other special carveouts and treatment. i trust people sitting in a garage somewhere, probably a kid hopefully living in miami because the wealth effect of these things are extraordinary. someone is going to figure out how to have a sustainable renewable source of energy that will defy the world. my guess is that will be an american and i bet will be able be more likely to happen in the freest possible kind of environment than one where you have a venture capital arm and

said the department of energy. that worked out really well, didn't it a shimmer fields a lender worked out fantastic. as the governor of the state of florida which has a very fragile environment, it is important to balance economic interest of the state or a country with the environmental protect florida with the question to me is we need to be stewards of the environment. it is not just a political statement, a spiritual statement. so whatever we do, we should make sure that we are not depriving people of economic opportunity along the way. i think we can achieve this. this is an extraordinary country with innovative capability. the role would be to invest in the long-term basic research to find the next disruptive technology. i have a friend from florida who was worn in iowa who served in the florida senate. it was also probably the premier environmentalist in the public sector when i was serving. do you have something to say?

>> 1967 and went to tallahassee. so i have watched and i got elected to the legislator tenures in the state in the statehouse, tenures in the state senate. so i have watched all the political leadership from the 1960s to current day and for some people to think that you could compare marco rubio to jeb is a joke. i am telling you, the things jeb does and talks about how much bad happened. i was involved, i was there. he did not exaggerate one bit of what he said his record was all about in iowa. let me give you a couple facts. in 1998, the florida legislature, both house and senate for the first time since the civil war went republican. we've had republican speakers at the house and president of the senate every year since 98. marco rubio was one of the

speakers. every single one of those republican speakers except rubio have all endorsed jeb. he is the only one in the whole group. you look at the number of legislators today. 40 in the senate and 120 in the house. about two thirds of all republican legislators have endorsed jeb over marco because they have seen firsthand just record. [applause] >> yes, sir. i thought he was going to talk about environmental policy, but that is okay, too. [laughter] we are learning this in the debate, too. >> i am a newlywed. my congratulations. >> thank you. >> my wife and i just got out of school, college that is. right now we are struggling to be able to pay back obviously the student loans and the

american dream to own a house. so we could get elected -- when you get elected, what will you do to help my situation -- and marked to pay off his student loans and to be able to afford a house. >> generally how big are the student wants you and your wife have? >> combined operably near 80,000 with interest. >> this is one of the tragedies. this is part of the legacy of obamacare, the nationalization of the student loan program happened with obamacare. it has doubled in size. $1.2 trillion of debt. the forbearance rate, the default rates are growing and this is recourse. this has to be paid off before you make your car loan or anything else to pay off your credit card. it is a burden on young people particularly. a week ago i outlined the end of

the student loan program to start with for everybody going forward. i don't think it proper place for government to act. the private bond market, fine. i don't care about that at all. and in the student loan program and replacing it with an income repayment plan or everybody that graduates from college with a $50,000 line of credit and if they fired at, not just for an aa degree or a is greater for your degree or masters degree, but also for certificates. you could get a certification that you could work on and you immediately get a job as an information technologist. if you want a certificate that shows you are vulgar, i promise you will get a job like that. at a wage higher than in a four year degree jobs that people get which are below they can't get a job. the program for four year degree in the university in this country to find a degree. there aren't any openings for

psychologists. many times you have to get a masters. so the net effect of this is opening up options where people can make decisions about what they want to do and you pay about 1% per $10,000 of money borrowed. you are basically investing in your future and for a 25 year period, up to a cap of 1.75, he would pay back 1% per $10,000 borrowed out of their tax return. none of the complex bureaucracy is number one. secondly, this would force them to lower prices rather than raise prices because they are financing higher costs on you, on your back. who said that is a great idea? they hire five x more than

regular inflation. tuition process takes, seven, 8% in most states and inflation is growing at 1% or 2% because we are financing their lack of accountability on the backs of people trying to get an education. third, there should be a total transparency about what the benefits of the degree you pursued before you start. some understand what it it takes to get that degree. universities need to open up vast terms are need to teach more. as for your degree out to be completed for crying out loud. the measured completion rate for full-time union set six years. call it affects your degree and be honest or do it in four years and be real. this is the third part in the final part is there are to be skin in the game. if they don't feel they are part of the bargain, the degree that you were expecting and it cost you $60,000, $70,000 as a

couple. they should have skin in the game. those things with lower tuition costs. you know how i know this? in florida, the lowest tuition in the country when i left was florida. you could go to the university of florida or fsu and not pay tuition at all. because we thought that was a value of importance or lottery monies go to something called the bright futures scholarship program. we have a free pay program by far and away the largest in the country. people invest over the long haul to give their children and grandchildren a chance to go to college. now we have accountability. they have to compete for the dollars that state provides an if they don't get their degree completion rates up, they don't get the money. guess what? degree completion rates go what you're about is how life works. accountability brown university for not having financed on the backs of young people has to be

the first priority. that is not an aberration. i get that question in every town hall meeting two or three times and it is a disgrace that we've allowed our government to run wild on this at the ends of students. anybody back there? >> excuse me. in iowa -- [inaudible] how are you most similar to them and how are you most different from them? >> i am much better looking than my brother. [laughter] i mean, come on. [laughter] [applause] i'll tell you what, when i was in my mid-20s, the two things that have really transformed my life, is marrying my wife.

i matter and i matter what number 17 in mexico. it was love at first sight. my life can be divided between pc and ac. i was much better after columba. i got out of school in two years and she's been my inspiration and motivation. the other inspiration has been my dad. he is 91. he is near perfect in my mind. how can i compare myself to the person who i consider to be my hero and the greatest man alive. i'm going to get emotional about this. that is not possible. how do i compare myself to a guy who joined the navy but the youngest navy pilot and got his wings when he turned 19, were shot down in the pacific and barely escaped by the garrison and had he been picked up, he would have been a work camp or the of that camp was executed

for war crimes for cannibalism. with prisoners. my dad's life experiences so full, so rich, so big. when i was in my 20s, normally you have a father you idolize but the success and then never cursed him and never raised his hand to me. just perfect. normally you try to get to be like your father. if i could just be like him. i figured if i could just be like half of them. there is a perfect decision because the lower expect tatian allowed me to live my own life. my life is different. i married a girl from mexico. i moved to florida away from texas. i worked my entire -- we started having children when we were a young. i lived in venezuela. i lived a very different life than my brother and my life experiences. i'm not saying they are better or worse.

i am probably more disciplined and more focused. a more cerebral which i'm trying to work on. i don't want to be overly walk this year. i love ideas. i love policies. i look like my mother. he looks like his dad. the determination under attack is inspiring that women against popular will. there along with an extraordinary group of men and women in uniform that left iraq and getting mistakes made along the way, but they left iraq in a secure place. it was dogged determination to finish what was started. i admire that as well. i learned by having a front row

seat, watching him work. the final thing i would stay afloat, 2017 will be a lot different than 1989. adam talks about the age of reagan. i was thinking about it. adam, you are one. speaking so eloquently about the kind of 1980. every election, every circumstance is different. the context is always different. we can always learn from the lessons of history and successes. my best lessons personally have been the ones where it didn't work, where it didn't succeed, where i had to dust myself off, where i made a mistake. if you have lived a life where you've learned through trial and error, through living a life come to be inactive, being engaged, you are a lot better on a journey by taking the time to listen to yourself and challenge yourself along the way. i think you want a president that has adversity in their life as well. a fuller, deeper understanding of how people are challenged

today. i think i am your guy in that regard. i don't know if that's different, the same. i am jeb. proud to be a bush. [applause] >> it would be pretty cool to have another bush in the white house. most of us are not cool with another clinton in the white house and what makes the best prepared to accomplish that? >> said the last part. >> what makes you guys prepared to accomplish that? >> good question. you want someone who can serve, do you also want someone who can win. here is what i believe to be true. i believe having someone who has been thoroughly vetted, 34 years of tax returns. because of my circumstance i can promise you everything i've done has been dented.

i was governor of a big state, but back to the bush thing, a lot of ways you try to hurt my dad would be to expose something i might of done. i have been thoroughly vetted and i've been totally open. i gave up 330,000 e-mails during my time as governor related to my work. you can go to jeff gmail.com and pick them up and see every e-mail that is fair. i wrote a book called reply all, which is a book about my service during those eight years. compare that to do with the clinton's role. you've got to get a subpoena to get her e-mails. 34 years of tax returns out there. whatever they are going to find, they will find i paid my taxes. an effective tax rate in the 30s. so i think first having a proven record of accomplishment, been thoroughly vetted this back in and campaigning with the hopeful optimistic message with your arms wide open.

we will never win as conservatives that we are the reactionary party. we win one of reagan won with the hopeful optimistic message which is firm and resolute that encourages people to join our team. last night in the debate it was interesting. there was this beautiful girl and you too. don't who saw the debate they showed on the screen, these youtube entrepreneurs. they have millions of people following them and youtube. she served in the military and she is now a fashion designer i think on youtube. extraordinary business. she basically was saying can i join you and the same with the woman who was muslim, basically saying m. i wanted? and i wanted on your team? the questions were answered by other people and they effectively didn't answer at the right way. so i butted in. yeah, of course we want you on our team. we won every person.

we want all cause children to be on our team. for not going going to exclude anybody. our message is one of hope and optimism and that is how you win. you take it to her. look, she'll talk about early childhood education, how it's important and she's got the endorsement of the teachers union. basically she'll want to expand government run 4-year-old programs, pre-k programs. i'd done something different. in florida with 80% of all four euros and literacy-based programs, 90% of which are churches and synagogues and private settings. and we benchmark it and do a half a day rather than a full day. it is a fact given it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. our learning gains are the highest for a fourth grader in the country. 57% of our students qualify for free and reduced lunch.

57 or 56% of our students are minority students. i won't be lectured to by hillary clinton or anyone left to create upward mobility and how the middle class can't earn any money that needs to be more dependent on government. i have a proven record as governor of the state of florida to create 4.4% income growth each and every year i was governor. the others will talk about it. they will say they will do it. i have done it. i think that's a far better way to take it to hillary clinton. [applause] if you think the back-and-forth in the primary campaign is tough -- first of all, i've been around a lot of campaigns. i mean, i just don't find it that negative. you don't think the clinton hate machine once they get going -- i

hope you want someone who's been thoroughly vetted and thoroughly scrutinized because they can't afford to lose this election. whoever nominee is with a vengeance. there's no hope and optimism in the quit message. i can promise you that. her first impulse when asked in a debate to her enemies were, she said the nra, drug companies. but you know what? the real enemy that i have are republicans. this is not going to be america here. we better be ready to fight back with someone who has been tested because it will get ugly quick. yes, sir. [inaudible]

>> if you are talking about the refugees, i don't think we should allow refugees and until the fbi director can make a claim assertion that the vetting process reflects the new reality than embedded in this refugee populations going to europe are people who are professing jihads against western civilization. they should not be allowed to come in. having said that, the main way to deal with this threat is to take out a fist and the caliphate. we can't plate he said -- we can't play defense. for this to be successful we need to destroy isis in the caliphate the size of indiana with 40,000 battle tested terrorists. their existence as a victory because it allows them to recruit. in the last year, in 17 countries, 70 attacks outside the caliphate that were either isis inspired or ice is controlled and that will grow in

asia. will grow in africa. it will grow in the middle east and it will grow here as we saw in san bernardino. the best way to solve the refugee problem is to embed our troops and the iraqi military, to arm the kurdish? a force is with better, more sophisticated equipment to reestablish the partnership of the sunni tribal leaders that is going to create the stability once isis is god that helped us with the surge, they get the lawyers up were fighters back in deals with the no-fly zone in. so the refugees can stay there and build this army financed by the arab world in partnership with zend and europe to take outpaces at its core. that is how you do with the problem and be serious about it. yes, sir. i do not >> no. no, i don't. as part of the strategy i just described. the kurds are muslim.

we are going to tell the muslims who are the strongest allies, strongest admirers of the united states. we want you to fight this fight that will give you arms, but you can't come to our country to talk about it. for the indignation population in indians, pakistanis. you send a signal that you are going to ban all muslims. you send a thing of the united faces retreat in the world. it's not the muslims that the problem. as radical islamic jihad is and we have to have the ability to distinguish or we will create more jihadists. we will push muslims away at a time we need them to be part of this. the united dates can't do with this and isolation of the world. we have to have muslims fighting the fight in syria. we can't do it in isolation of them. so i don't agree with that. it would be bad for national

security to do that. that means we need to defend the homeland better and all the things. we can't just pull back and think that's going to work. i have a big cost than i am losing my voice. that made it a little bit harder. i've been speaking louder than i need to. so the gridlock in washington -- it's interesting. 240 years old as the country. we've had gridlock in the past. sometimes they take it more seriously than we do now. most of the time the democracy is functioning. why is it now so different? i think we have a president whose first impulse is to push down anybody that disagrees with them to make them look bad, to create a strawman, to demonize them because it hasn't been a

hereto. if you don't agree with him, and you're a bad person. your motivations are wrong. they might be liberal or they might have a view about america's role in the world that is different than mine. he started the premise that people are bad people because they disagree with you. you can begin to rebuild that trust. this whole idea of pushing someone down to make yourself look better -- i don't know, back to the bush family. barbara bush when she saw a kid in our family act like that, do you know what happened? they didn't have the 100 hotline for child abuse. [laughter] we've got to get back to grown-up world where you don't assume people are bad. you know something about them. you build trust and when you agree, you go to yes, right?

right now, even when, even with a degree of subjects, mental health is a big subject and we are underfunded mental health. we need better ways to deal with the challenges of gun violence with people who are deranged and they end up killing innocent people. it's not law-abiding citizens. it's not the gun owners that are the problem. it's a mental health challenge. people on the right and left agree. the president's first impulse is to use executive authority he doesn't have too tried to solve this problem and make a political point, political argument. i'll be a president that will not leave my predecessor. for three or four years it was hard to watch tv. i will accept personal responsibility. i'll be held accountable and i won't assume people are bad people because they disagree with me. that is how you relieve a degree that allows you to move forward.

it's not a violation of principle to try to do that. who came up with that idea? who came up with the idea that it's a sign of strength getting nothing done? think about this. we are in this alice in wonderland logic right now that is totally bizarre. we have a tax code where businesses are being bought by foreign companies, relocating smaller businesses come abide the u.s. business and relocating outside the country. we are losing taxes than losing jobs. everybody says it's a problem, but nobody has the solution. of course we have a solution. allow for onetime monies to combat with the $2 trillion of cash overseas. turn this on its back and turn it back into our own country. their solutions to every one of these problems, but she got to start with and mobile.

governors know how to do this. to whoever your future appointment might be what the general election that you will as a matter of fact with the best of intentions and not just a punchline of a joke. >> yeah, it is tougher with hillary clinton because of the trust issue. i will do it right now. i give respect to being intelligent, knowledgeable, policy oriented peer she has a set of detailed lands that are very different than mine. she is sincere in that regard yet she believes what she believes. i can give her credit for honesty and trustworthiness because look, when you go -- when you tell family members who lost their loved ones that it

was a videographer there was a motivation for the attack and ben cozzi and then you are under a ms e-mails because the only reason we know this is her e-mails were subpoenaed by the fbi. they were voluntarily given as she said. it turns out she had e-mailed her daughter on her private server about classified information and to the prime minister of egypt that this was motivated by jihads. underwrote she says that something different. that is just not trustworthy. i can't admire that, but i can admire her intelligent, her focus, her command of policy is. i can certainly do that. i hope you give me a little break here that as it relates to trustworthiness and honesty she's got a long way to go. she is having a hard time in the democratic primary issue would have a hard time with the

american people restoring some degree of trust because of our history. >> you talk about the massive modernization of the military and the air force. how is it all going to be funded? >> great question. let me pull out my popular for a second. i don't know how many of these we have here, but this is a blueprint for all of the ideas we've laid out and you can go to jeb 2016.com and drill down. part of this is everything that we've done, whether it's preserving and protect social security and creating new system that will be viable for the next generation were the reforms reforms of medicaid, medicare -- everything including defense we priced it out. i tried to be intellectually honest. what i propose would be a 25 billion to $30 billion increase in defense spending.

so it is a sizable commitment. but if you're going to rebuild the navy, rebuild the air force, modernize and train and have the readiness back or that everybody expects we have, but we don't, it is going to cost more money. that is the amount of money that would be spent. world should we be spending money? in my mind at least more money on basic research, whether it is the nih or the next generation of energy for the space program, that these long-term projects for america we should be spending more money on. we should spend less by reforming medicaid alone. medicaid will grow by 18%. it is a massive increase because it has never been reformed. if you bought grant that back to the state that cpi based on the tenure projection of spending, you would save $132,150,000,000,000 in its

tenure. medicare would be something similar based on the proposal we've laid out. entitlement is where you are going to see savings. we are modernizing and bringing it into the 21st century and allowing for the savings to accrue because they are projected rates are like a percent per year and that compounding takes out all the spending necessary and the long-term things that is the bush plan. it is financed of all by higher growth, reforming entitlements and that civil service program that creates lifetime employment and if you reformat for a reduction in the number of workers, he could save a tremendous amount of money. one more and then we go.

>> the cuts coming in 2017. >> debate canceled in 10 years when they've come run out of money and it goes bankrupt and is a 30% reduction. they are freezing the benefits -- i don't think there's a cut in 17 -- [inaudible] >> i think that is probably 10 years out. here is my plan row click. for anybody on social security there would be no cause. it exists as it is. for starting in 2022, you would raise the retirement here by one month per year. in 30 years time you get up to 70 for retirement. he would back what the benefits. right now to better deal is to retire early rather than retire

late. our proposal does the opposite. you are blending benefits differently so late retirement has a better deal in terms of beginning payment and early retirement. he would provide a minimum benefit for everybody of 120% of the poverty level today and on average that 80% of the level. it is now the principal source of savings for most seniors. having a floor that is higher than what exists is appropriate. you do all those things together and a few other things you may be solve it. and it's reality-based. it's an approach left and right could agree on. for those that are working because they want to or because they have to or both, you would not have to pay the employee

portion of your payroll from which goes into social security. why would someone who's retired already, they shouldn't have to pay into the system. and part of their retirement. that is the plan we laid out. based on the actuaries, that was save social security for another 50 years. you know, we better get on with it to the left always has this idea. don't worry, it will work. alfred e. neuman, mad magazine. denial is a river in africa. it will magically be fixed. it's not going to exist for anybody under the age of 50. that is all happen if we don't move forward. when it started we had 30 people working for one retiree and then it went down to 10 and five and now it is close to three.

it could literally get two to 150 to 60 years from now. that is impossible. that is not going to work. there are solutions to the problems we face but it requires a leader that recognizes that it's reality-based and has ideas that are embedded in conservative principles that have the ability to persuade people that has to happen in with it and shows dogged determination. that is why hope dukakis for me on monday night. thank you very much. [applause] ♪ [inaudible conversations]

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>> appreciate you being here. hope you will caucus with me. appreciate it. >> [inaudible conversations] >> are you running for president again? we need another competition like

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do you have community gatherings your? >> we are getting more and more. >> i like the sign back there that says my bar my rules. >> governor, chuck often burger. >> how are you doing, chuck? karl is the administrator at the hospital. >> it's good for the most part. regulations for us and i is a big thing. [inaudible] >> i heard they stalled it. >> into march 1. >> we had managed care for a long while. we expanded it. it works pretty well.

>> a lot of it for us is a combination. companies were vetted and not that they are there we have -- >> a little bit of parity in terms of scale your you have real consolidation, then they control, hospitals have total domination and then sometimes it doesn't always work eloquently to balance that out.rket, like blue cross just crushes. [inaudible conversations]

[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> good job last night. >> thank you. thank you. >> can i get a picture quick? >> yeah. where's your camera?>> yeah,'s would you like a picture box you guys don't think it's cold here quacks. >> we are used to it. >> it's pretty mild. >> mamaybe out in the sun withot the wind. thanks for your help.

>> get back to making calls. >> yeah, really. >> see you in sioux city. >> jeb bush plan something in new hampshire tonight. the primary there next tuesday a number of candidates still in iowa campaigning for votes including florida senator marco rubio who met with caucus goers at the cracker barrel in clive iowa. dr. ben carson speaking with npr today about the iowa caucuses tonight as well as rick santorum visiting with students and staff of des moines christian school. of former senator of pennsylvania one the last iowa caucuses in 2012 over the

eventual nominee mitt romney. you can follow tonight's iowa caucus results on the c-span networks. we will start at 7:00 eastern with a look at what to expect and how to iowa caucuses work. we will be taking your calls, text and tweet and at 8:00 live coverage from caucus sites in iowa from a democratic caucus in polk county human c-span2. on c-span following of republican caucus in boone. >> the issue that i am interested is the is the border patrol. i think we have too many illegal aliens and problems in this country right now to continue having this type of thing. i'm here supporting governor chris christie. he keeps advertising all over the state the program of the rural electric co-op and we are very proud of his efforts on our behalf. we're glad he recognizes all of

these efforts to try to fight the clean power plan and come up with a better solution, all of the above, including nuclear and other noncarbon resources. >> iowa senator chuck grassley join dr. ben carson friday at the university of iowa in iowa city. their campaign stop rant about an hour and a half. thank you all very much. hey, what a turnout. thank you, ryan, for those kind remarks. my wife would say you should always thank people for spirit that reminds me of another thank you. thanks to all of you for giving me the opportunity to serve you with the united states and. i hope you know that all these public offices our public trust. they don't belong to the people that are in them. a belong to you the people of those trusts have two be renewed

from time to time. it's my privilege to be invited to introduce dr. carson, but before i actually give you the introduction, dr. carson into the i first got acquainted with them. i think that the enthusiasm that i see at all these rallies and these campaign events is something that, if it's kept up between now and the november election, we are going to be able to have a republican president and not have the third term of an obama presidency. [applause] and for the principle of limited government that's pretty important because we have a president that said if he has a pen and a phone and if congress won't, i will. that's contrary to the principle of limited government. and you know where that comes from, best expressed in the

declaration of independence that we are endowed by our creator certain and a little rights, among them life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. we are not endowed by government with our rights. because if you were, government can give, government can take away. but when you have those rights from god, then they are yours and we have a constitution that gives government some power, but the principle of limited government is very, very important. and its government of by and for the people. it's not of by and for the government. and if you listen to what the democratic candidates for president, their answer is to every problem, it doesn't matter what problem is brought of the every darn problem is more taxes, more spending, and more regulation.

and that's very contrary to what has made this country great. the ingenuity and hard work of the american people, not what comes from government. and so this enthusiasm has to be kept up in order for us to make sure that we don't have a third term of an obama presidency. and you've got, and so whatever reason you have been here now come it can't end on february 1. it has to continue through the following nine months. i hope that you will do that. and i want you to know i'm going to work hard to make sure that we don't have a third term of an obama presidency. [applause] now, i'll tell you a second time why i am here. because i want to have the privilege, want to and have the privilege of introducing

dr. carson. cafeteria i first learned about dr. carson? and he was famous in the medical profession, and particularly in surgery, and particularly in brain surgery but that doesn't mean a farmer from iowa like chuck grassley would know who he is. i've been a regular attendee at national prayer breakfast. in fact, even before dr. carson spoke their maybe 10 years before, i had the privilege of hearing mother teresa, four-foot eight inches pakistan about to speak to 4000 people with president clinton's two seats away. and she said, she told about the value of life and what's wrong with abortion. and had to listen to it. well, a few years later there's a dr. carson that i don't know whether they're burning people about but i sure didn't know it existed. he was invited to speak before the same 4000 people at the national prayer breakfast, and i

had the privilege of hearing him say what was wrong with obamacare with the president two or three seats away. now, he was not there to give a political speech. you with their to give a spiritual speech. but there's a certain amount of spirituality connected with politics when you, and living by the constitution as well, that government is not the answer to everything, that there's other things involved with life, and belief in god is one of those. and so the value of life is what our faith is all about, the value of life. and the constitution that backs that up. and so i heard him say during that speech the things that were wrong with obamacare. as one example that he gave.

so i came away from that meeting with the fact that this guy has a lot of guts and even though he's a brain surgeon. it's got a lot of guts. so i come to you with that background about him and would say that there is some principles that a brain surgeon has that you have to have in government as well. and i would like to say that i think, you know, again i don't anything about medicine but i assume you have to put together a good team. you have to a plan for the operation you're going to have, and you have to make sure that a complicated operation is reformed and performed well. doesn't that sound similar to something that's missing in government? putting together a proper team, putting together the proper planning and carrying out an operation with success. it would seem to me that's a very, very important.

you've heard him say on television that he's the only one that is on the platform out there during the debate on whether you said this last night but that urgency about the times. i'm the only one of your without a political title. you don't have to have a political tidal to run for president. you don't have to of a political tidal to perform as a president. you have to have a lot of common sense. and i think, now the dr. carson is going to come out you to speak to you, i think you're going to see a person that has a lot of common sense in order to end our problems. and i want to tell you why commonsense is important. it is washington is an island surrounded by reality. if you ever wonder why i come home every weekend, this is the real world. dr. carson is in the real world. dr. carson, come here to tell them why you are a good

candidate. [applause] >> thank you so much. thank you so much. thank you so much, and thank you, senator grassley. i am absolutely delighted to be here today after the debate last night. in which i didn't get a lot of time i did get a chance to say a law. and that's the important thing. a lot of times people say to me, is it really worth going to all the things that you have to go through to run for president of the united states? people attacking you, attacking her character, attacking a family, a tremendous grind, is it all worth it? and the answer is no. [laughter] not if you're doing it for yourself. however, if you have a bigger

purpose it is definitely worth it. and you know -- there we go. nsa, you've got to watch them. [laughter] i spent my whole professional career looking out for children and trying to give them a second chance and a third chance. and you do all that hard work and then you put them back into an environment that's not healthy. and i couldn't stand the thought of retiring knowing that our children were going into a bad environment. this is the first generation predicted could do worse than their parents in american history. that's a market change from everything that is characterized as in the past, a land of hope, a land of dreams. the american dream is

disappearing before our eyes. and the question is, are we just going to continue down the same pathway doing the same things with very slight variations in them and having people say, oh, it's different this time, when it really isn't? or are we going to make a major correction and turn this thing around? you know, i am very dedicated to preserving the american dream. have you noticed there's no other country with a dream? we are the only ones with a dream. there's no canadian dream. there's no italian dream. there's no nigerian dream. there's an american dream and yet you see so many people denigrating our country. and saying that we are the root of all evil, have created some of the problems in the world.

if we are all that bad why are so many people try to get in your anatomy people trying to escape? i don't think we are bad at all. [applause] in fact when you want to talk about an exceptional nation, this is the one you need to talk about. we declared our independence in 1776, less than one of years later we were the number one economic power in the world. and 100 years, 500 is a thousand years, 5000 years before america came on the scene, people did things the same way. within 200 years of america, coming on the scene, men were walking on the moon. think about that. completely change the trajectory of mankind. it is by far the most exceptional nation the world has ever known. and it's one of the reasons that we should be in no every to give

away all of our values and principles for the sake of political correctness. and let our nation be changed. you know, we need to -- [applause] the d.c. police would have you believe that every other culture, every other lifestyle is equivalent and, therefore, we should welcome all of those things into our nation. and like i said last night, i believe in the teddy roosevelt philosophy. anybody is welcome as long as they accept our principles, our values and our laws. and if they are not, they should stay where they are. [applause] i don't see anything wrong with that. i don't think that that's prejudicial in any way. it just says that we like who we are.

you probably wouldn't let somebody come into your house as a guest come and they will walk in and say i don't like the way your living room furniture is. i'm going to take them out and then going to put some other stuff in here. the open refrigerator and said i don't like this stuff, get rid of all that. i had a roommate who was like that. it was so funny. when my other roommates come his mom would bring all these things up with an refrigerator and then bob would come in and say i don't like these the tell your mom not to bring these anymore. she wasn't bringing them for bob. she was bringing them for her son. but some people, that's the mindset they have. it was certainly combat veterans for me as a youngster. i wanted to be a doctor. it was really the only thing that grabbed my fancy. i skipped right of replacement environment.

i went straight to doctor. i love anything to had to do with medicine. i even liked going to the doctor's office. i didn't mind getting a shot as long as i could smell the alcohol swabs, you know? i was on cloud nine if i had those swabs. if i could just have a stethoscope and listened to my own heart, if anybody else volunteered i would listen to their hard i would listen to anything that made noise. it was just so much fun. and going to the hospital was like the best thing in the world. some people don't like to go to hospitals. have to wait for long periods of time. the longer the wait for me the better because i could sit out in the hallway, listen to the p.a. system. dr. jones, dr. jones to the emergency room. dr. johnston. it sounded so important and i would be thinking one day there will be sink dr. carson, dr. carson. of course, they have the personnel so you don't get to hear it. but there's a reason that god

gave us a brain with the ability to dream. because sometimes the dream is the only thing that get you through. sometimes the going gets very, very difficult, and you have to grasp onto the impossible dream and reach when your arms are too weary, and grasp it. well, it certainly didn't look very likely for me as a youngster. i was a terrible student. in addition to growing up in terrible poverty i was just the worst student you could possibly have. everybody called me dummy. that was many things. i must admit that i admired this market. i would never tell them that i admired them but i really did admire. i can imagine, they are in the same grade as i how do they know all this stuff? the kind of kid i was reminds me of a lot of young people, and

unfortunate old people that i encounter these days. who don't know very much to have you noticed that you run into a lot of people who don't know very much? they are like very superficial knowledge. you should watch jesse waters world. they go out with this man on the street interviews and ask people stop, and i me, they can select what's the significance of labor day? they will say, that celebrates women having babies. i mean, they just have no idea about anything. and the sad thing is these people vote. that's the really sad thing. but you know, our founders were adamant about education. you know, and the massachusetts bay colony if you didn't have adequate education in your community you were fine. that's how it was.

when alexis de tocqueville came to america to study this nation because he was fascinated, how could a fledgling nation barely 50 years old already be competing with all the powers of europe on virtually every level? and he was going to figure out what was going on here. he studied our government. he was impressed with the separation of powers and the efficiency of our government. this was a while ago. he and let me look at their education system. and he was blown away. anybody finishing the second grade was completely literate. he could find a bear trap or, that guy could read the newspaper. could tell him how the government works, could have a sophisticated conversation. only aristocracy in europe could do that. it was an amazing thing that was going on in our nation.

that's one of the reasons that i think we develop so quickly, while -- why would able to move from one ocean to the of the ocean across a vast hostile and rugged terrain. and we had what's known as a can-do attitude. it quickly propelled us to the pinnacle of the world. that can-do attitude is rapidly being replaced today with the what can you do for me attitude. it's changing very quickly. in fact, 30 years ago somebody had tried to describe to you today's america, you wouldn't believe that you would've said that's ridiculous, those kinds of things will never be going on in america. we are changing at breakneck speed. and interestingly enough, joseph

stalin, no friend of america by any stretch of the imagination, he said, if you want to bring america down, you have to destroy her from the inside. and if you do that by attacking three fundamentals of america. her faith, her patriotism, and her morality. and if you can destroy those you will destroy america. way see right? and those are the exact things that are going on in our society today. and the enemies of stopping that, political correctness. don't talk about all this stuff, you just let it happen azure society is changed. he had nothing to say about

this. the secular progressives are winning the fight. they have been doing it for decades, and they are actually in the minority. the majority of americans actually have common sense. the majority of americans actually have real values and principles. it's just that they have been shut out. they have been intimidated. they are afraid to speak out and say what they actually believe. and the secular progressives, they don't care whether you agree with him or not, as long as you sit down and shut your mouth. and that's what's going on. and it's really time for people to stand up and open their mouths widely and proclaim what they believed. because that is what is going to save america. and conservatives must stop allowing themselves to be manipulated.

you know, the progressives come along and say you conservatives are great people because you have such high principles. and you will not dare vote for somebody with whom you have a disagreement. because you are such good people and then they go home and laugh at you. in the last presidential election, 93 million people who could have voted did not vote. 25-30 million evangelicals did not vote. we cannot allow that to happen again. everybody in here and when you know some of those people who didn't vote. i hope you are not one of them, but you need to convince them that when you don't vote, you are voting. it's just that you are voting for the other side. and if we do that in and we get another progressive president

and they did two or three supreme court picks, one of them being obama, america is a toaster your children and grandchildren, they are toast and we've just given the store away. so we have got to be much, much smarter than that. it's much better to have somebody with whom you agree 90% of the time and so that you disagree with 100% of the time. we just have to do that comparison and recognize that we are not just talking about ourselves and how we deal. we are talking about all of those who are coming behind us. that's why yesterday in the debate i finished by quoting the preamble to the constitution, which talks about securing until ourselves the blessings of liberty and unto our austerity. we have an obligation to those

who are coming behind us. welcome at any rate i'm going to come back to that seen in a minute do i need to get back because i left myself as this horrible student. i've got to get out of that, okay? and the thing that got me out of it, my mother. she only had a third grade education. she came from a huge rural family, got married when she was 13 trying to escape. choose just shop from one place to another. really there was no place she could really call home. they moved to detroit years later. she discovered that my father was a bigamist and had another family. of course, that resulted in a divorce and she to try to raise us on her own to we move in with relatives in boston. and she just worked extraordinarily hard trying to make ends meet. she absolutely refused to be a

victim. and with all the things that happened to her, she never felt sorry for herself. and that was a good thing. the problem issue never felt sorry for us either. [laughter] there was never any excuse that was acceptable. she would always say, do you have a brain? if the answer was yes, then you could solve it doesn't matter what bob or merit or john or robert or anybody else said or did. and that was probably the most important thing she did for us. because she was not looking for excuses. you are looking for a solution. what a difference it made. and then she made us start reading books. i was not happy about this at all. in some of the homes where she worked after she prayed for wisdom, she noticed that there were lots of books and that they didn't spend all their time looking at television.

and she concluded that there was a correlation there. she came and she imposed on us. turn off the tv, which we were very upset if it was that is what i would've called protective services, but back in those days you had to do what you parents told you. there was no social psychologists think that the kids express themselves. [laughter] to add insult to injury we had to read two books a piece from the public library every week submit your own written book report, which she couldn't read but she did know that. she would put check marks, highlights and intellect and we thought she was reading them but she wouldn't. the interesting thing was should never dictate what kind of books we had to read. so i could read anything i wanted. i started reading a lot of books about people of conscience. scientists and explorers, philosophers and all kinds of people. and i began to understand

something, that the person who is the most to do with what happens to you in life is you. it's not somebody else. i stopped listening to all the people around me who were always trying to convince you that you were a victim and that the system was again she. i didn't have time to listen to this topic i was too busy reading, empowering myself. and within the space of you in half of it from the bottom of the close to the top of after much to the conservation of all the students are used to come again to i know coming to me and said howdy work as public works i would say sit at my feet at that exit at my feet, youngster, walk and struck you i was perhaps a little obnoxious but it sure felt good to say that to those turkeys. ahead of revolution in my thinking. i had the exact same brain. i was in the exactly same circumstance but i have changed the way i perceived myself and

the way that i perceived the world. and that is such an important thing that we must think about again in america. we must change the mindset of many americans. did you know that in many more, 30 states, you can receive more from accepting government benefits than you can from working a minimum wage job. so a lot of people conclude, why would it work for minimum wage job when i can sit here and collect? i can do similar things on the site and i can actually do quite well. there's a mindset that has pervaded. the old mindset in america used to be no, i'm going to take the minimum-wage job because i'm going to learn skills, going to meet people, get opportunities, climb the ladder and in a

relatively short time i'm going to be much better off than the person receiving the benefits. that's the way we used to think. that's the way we must begin to think again. we only have 330 million people in this country. it sounds like a lot of people, but think about china. 1.4 billion people. india, 1.1 billion people. they have a lot more people than we do. and what that means is that we need to develop all of our people. we can't have huge groups of people just sitting around educating not really contributing. not going to. we can't have 20 plus% met the people enter high school not graduating. we can't have 5% of the world population and 25% of the inmates in the world.

none of these things makes sense. and let me say one thing that truly disturbing. we have an all voluntary military. 71% of the people applying to the military between the ages of 17-24 are not acceptable. they can't get in. physical, mental, or educational. the biggest category, educational. people who can't pass the most basic test that anybody should know. because we are in a process of dumbing down our society. and our founders said that our freedoms and our system is based upon a well-informed and

educated populace. if we ever became anything other than that, the nature of the country would change. why? because people would be easy to manipulate. at all it would take was a slick politician and a complicit media, and off they go. following the shiny object, not paying attention to what's really going on, not really analyzing and recognizing what's going on. this is essential for those who are coming after us that we understand it. thomas jefferson said that it is immoral to pass that on to the next generation. if we could bring him back today -- past debt. and he could see what was going on he would have a stroke that i immediately. he would not even be able to

imagine what we are doing. $19 trillion? national debt, are you kidding me? i mean, can anybody even fathom what that number needs? needs? we can say it but i think we can actually understand numbers when they get to that size. if you try to pay it back at a rate of $10 million the day, that's another we can kind of understand but it still a lot. 365 days a year, no vacations, it would take more than 5000 years. that's not just the next generation. that is multiple generations down the road. that's if we were to start paying it back now. we are not paying it back now. we are continuing to increase it. by the time the next president takes over we will be to $20 trillion. that's the good news.

it's actually worse than that. anybody here know what the fiscal gap is? most people have not heard of the fiscal gap. please look it up when you go home tonight and read about it. it is very important that the american people understand the concept of the fiscal gap. no politician will talk about it, but i'm not a politician so good to talk about it. it is the amount of unfunded liability that we know, medicare, medicaid and social security, all the government programs. they are 645 agencies and said agencies. budget is a source with all of them. all of that money versus what we have coming back from tax revenues and other revenue sources. other revenue sources should be a big number but it's not.

our government owns more than $150 trillion in assets. you give a well-run company $150 trillion, even if they are not producing anything, just to return from a small return like 2% on that kind of asset, you wouldn't have a national debt. but we don't run pashtun our government owns 900,000 buildings. 77,000 of which are either not utilized or underutilized. at the same time with your taxpayer money we are leasing over 500 million square feet of office space. makes no sense. that's just a one small -- it goes on and on. the congressional budget office identified 650 the leading

dollars worth of things in the budget that could be cut. think about that. the house budget committee over a ten-year period has identified $5.5 trillion. who gets to pay for all that stuff? we do. we have to get people in office who understand this. and it's very important that the people of america i can understand this. and then when somebody comes along and says, free college for everybody, now do not interpret that. high-fiber. i'm going to give you everything as we continue to destroy the financial foundation of the nation. also we are destroying every aspect of the american dream because think about this, that

$19 trillion, what does that force our government to do? it forces them to keep the interest rates artificially suppressed. for almost a decade now we've had near zero interest rates. some people say that's great, i can buy a house. that is destroying the american dream because it used to be that joe the butcher every friday could go to the bank and put five, 10% of this check into a savings account and watch that grow over the next two decades and retire with a very nice essay cannot have a nothing to worry about come with a without social security. that was a part of the american dream. that is gone. because of the level of debt. a debt service on $18 trillion is $250 billion a year. if you let interest rates rise to a normal level it would be

$1 trillion. we don't have a trillion dollars. and, therefore, the central bank has to keep it suppressed, destroying the american dream that by bit. rather than being responsible and acting like you do in your own home. you don't have it, you don't spend it. you take also into account what the regulation are doing. they are destroying america. 81,000 pages of new regulations last year, encircling everything that we do. and we the consumers are the ones who have to pay for it. and people will come along and they will say, it's those evil, rich people. and if we can just take their money we can solve all of these problems. it's not the evil, rich people.

it's the evil government that is insinuating itself into every aspect of your life, and wasting your money. that is our problem. and it is not a problem that cannot be solved. we can solve this problem. we the people have the ability to do this. just as an example, we have the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world. so we have a lot of offshore money, american money that should be brought back. i sat around the corporate board table many an afternoon, costco, kellogg's, talk about the billions of dollars over your or over here, and wanted to bring them back but we couldn't because of high tax rate so we have to forget what we can do with that money over there. well, what i would propose is over $2.1 trillion, huge amount

of money, no tax on that money. a six-month hiatus, let it be repatriated to this country. and the only stipulation being that 10% of it has to be used in enterprise owned and to create jobs to people who are under employed, unemployed or on welfare. you want to talk about a stimulus, that would be the biggest stimulus since fdr's new deal and it wouldn't cost the tax payers 1 penny. that's the kind of thing that needs to be done to really jumpstart our economy, but also gets corporate america thinking about something important, investing in their fellow man. investing in your fellow human being. what a difference it makes when you are able to invest in them. that's the only thing that brings people out of poverty. government programs don't bring people out of poverty. our government said in the '60s there's a war on poverty

come we're going to eliminate it. how did that work? $19 trillion later, this 10 times more people on food stands, more people in poverty, welfare, broken homes, out of wedlock birth, crime and incarceration. everything is not only worse, much worse. not because government is evil but because that's not what they're supposed to do. that is the responsibility of the private sector. government can help facilitate that but it's not their duty. they need to read the constitution. maybe they did read it. maybe they read the preamble that i quoted last night, and it's one of the things that sent its to promote the general welfare. they probably thought that meant put everybody on general welfare. [laughter] that is not what it means that all. and we have to get back to the original family valley. fix the tax code, and i would encourage all to go to that website, ben carson.com, we got

our tax plan. read about our plan to eliminate isis. read about our plans to revamp the economy, to improve education. we've got more policy other than anybody else, and it's very, very good stuff but it's the kind of stuff that you don't get to talk about in a debate. the system that we have, i don't want to complain but it's a rigged system. it is absolutely read. and the contents and the media think that they have complete control. and in the past they have had a lot of control, but it was thomas jefferson who put it best. he said that we would get to this level in discussion because the people would not be paying close attention. and as a result of that, the government would do what all governments do, grow and

metastasize and infiltrate and dominate. but he said something encouraging. he said just before we turn into another form of government, the people of the united states will awaken, and they would recognize what was going on and they would rise up and they would take control of their government. i hope that this is the time we're going to do that. we have every ability to do something like that. we also have to recognize when it comes to those were following us, that we have a responsibility for their safety. preamble talks about provide for the common defense. well, right now the people in this country are frightened. and you know what?

they should be frightened. because their government doesn't understand what's going on. and i think anybody with common sense recognizes that isis and the radical islamic terrorists are an existential threat to our country. but a few weeks ago president obama said they are not an existential threat. how naïve. he thinks we are still living back in the '40s and 50s of conventional armies and air forces and navies, and that's how you fight wars. we don't fight wars that way anymore. now you are talking about dirty bombs and cyber attacks and attacks on our electrical grid. unit, we are talking about the kinds of things that really overnight can completely change what's going on in our country.

particularly a coordinated attack. they are indeed an existential threat. not only that but they have made it very clear that they won't to destroy us. they want to destroy israel. so what is our response to that? we have two choices. we can either sit around and act they are a jd and we don't have to worry about them, or we can use every resource we have to destroy them first. i think that's the better option. ..

he went north. that's where he put together his army and they began massacring anyone who would didn't believe the same way they did. anyone who belonged to what they call the cashier which is primarily christians and jews, wiping out all of the jews in the arabian peninsula. he was a killer and had had territory called a caliphate. that's what gets them legitimacy , caliphate. they eventually lost the last remnant for their caliphate many many years later. when the ottoman empire went down 1924.

they were without a caliphate until recently when they acquired land in a rack. they have half of iraq, a third of syria. they have established a foothold in egypt and tunisia and libya, which is particularly a dangerous spot. they work very hard to subvert what's going on there. we created the libya problem quite frankly. the obama clinton administration did that. terrible thing to have done because if they can spread their caliphate to libya, which is their next goal, i guarantee you , there's much more oil they are, a huge amount of land strategically located to go across the mediterranean and it anywhere into southern europe. you go south, and chad, sudan, you have tremendous platform for

spreading your ideologies, so believe me that is what they want. what we have to do is we have to engage our military experts, our joint chiefs and we have to say the goal is to take their caliphate. what do you need to push that goal. then, that is what we have to give them and we had to also give them our full support. we cannot tie their hands behind their backs. we cannot have them wondering whether they will be prosecuted for some kind of crime. [applause]. [applause]. >> then, in addition to that, they cannot have money. isis is the richest terrorist organization in the world. they have oil. we have silly rules of engagement, don't bomb on oil tanker because there may be

people on it and it may cause environmental damage. only this administration could come up with something like that. i would send out a memo that says anything coming out of there will be bombed and if you don't want your people to be killed don't put them in it. that would make a lot more sense do the logical thing and then shut down all of their avenues of money transfer because what they do is they go after the disaffected people and they can provide them with resources. that's what makes it tempting. that along with their caliphate, that's why they have gone from 10000 a few years ago to 40000 now and by the time the next president takes over probably 60000 or more, it's a formidable force. then, you have to attack their command and control centers. don't let them sit comfortably in arauca and moodle or wherever

they are. we have to find them and we have to put them on the run. in the process of destroying everything that they have and then in this country we must recognize unfortunately because of our negligence there are plenty of terror cells already here in our country. i was down on the border this summer and i was just flabbergasted as the sheriffs were telling me about all of the otm coming through. people from northern africa and the middle east and we are doing very little to stop them. yes, there was a sense. i mean, this is the kind of fence that would have barely slowed me down as a kid and the one area there was a big hole cut in the fence. you could drive a car through it and they had strong a couple of people-- pieces of barb or across there and a cameraman who was with us went through because they wanted to film from the other side and they were not

athletic people, i mean, so these people have no difficulty getting through these areas and they are bringing in drugs like crazy. that's why we have this heroine epidemic in our society right now. it's destroying our populace. bringing in marijuana like crazy and there are a bunch of people who say marijuana is not so bad, we should legalize marijuana, recreational drug. i'm going to tell you as a neuroscientist this is not true. there have been many studies that have demonstrated that regular exposure to cannabis in a developing brain can cause significant damage including drops in iq. now, we already have enough people with low iqs. [laughter] >> we don't need to be cultivating that in our society right now. that's craziness, but we can seal that border easily. yuma county arizona cut illegal

traffic down by 97% by putting up a double fence with an asphalt road, putting in border guards. mentioned that, border guards at the border. and prosecuting first-time offenders. instead of the catch and release program we have now. 97%. you do that across online sectors and add motion detectors and drones i bet you could get close to 100% and some people say, that's useless because they will just dig underneath it. know they won't because we have radar equipment that can demonstrate any holes being dug. and we can deal with that, so it's not that we don't have the ability, it's that we don't have the will. do you want your some sad stories, go down there and talk to those ranchers who live along

the border. they had endured that, harassment and murder. some of the stories, you are just crying. you cannot walk out of that room without crying and they are getting little or no support from our federal government. so, we can close it and we must close it. we can do it within a year, i guarantee you and then we must teach our people how to respond to terrorism. we cannot just say this is no big deal. when i was a kid we used to have air raid drills and when a siren went off you knew where you were supposed to go, what you were supposed to, duck and cover all of that kind of stuff. we need to teach people what to do if you are in a situation because i guarantee you san bernardino is not the end of this. and the response certainly is not what the obama

administration has advocated, taking guns from our citizens. just the opposite. i think they ought to to be offering to teach gun safety to all of our americans. [applause]. [applause]. >> that would make much more sense. have you ever noticed that these mass school shootings never occur in his real? israel is sitting right in the midst of all these terrorists. why is that? because teachers in israel and you don't know which ones, but every school highly trained with access to weapons. they know that. they are not coming in their. in this country, have you noticed that when a mass shooting occurs they occur in gun free zones. a lot of those people are crazy, but they are not back crazy, so they are going to go someplace where they will likely biel to carry out their carnage without

carnage without getting killed. we could take some lessons from that. again, our political correctness will kill us. if we don't wake up. i will take one of of the reasons that i hate pc so much is because our founders, many of them gave everything they had including their lives so that we could have freedom of speech. freedom of expression. they would roll over in their graves if they saw us capitulating. with people telling us everything about who we are and what we can do and what we can say in where we can live and how we can do it. forget about it. this is america. [applause]. [applause]. >> we have to stop allowing ourselves to be turned into something else.

when it comes to our taxes and i'm going to stop in a minute and let you ask some questions, the reason i have proposed a flat tax is it because i'm interested in fairness. the left likes to criticize me and say carson got his idea from the bible. so, what is wrong with that? what's wrong with the bible? i mean, god is pretty fair and he says i want you to type theory he didn't say it give a bumper crop you only trouble time. he didn't say if your crops fail you or me nothing, so proportionality-- proportionality must be fair. if you make $10 million-- you get the same rights and privileges. house that they are? and you have to get rid of all of the deductions, all of the loopholes, all of the shelters and you get rid of all the

double taxation. no capital gains tax, no death tax, nothing that has been packs before gets tax again. that is the reason that forbes, "wall street journal" and many others have appraised this as my far the best tax plan. it will promote growth. that is what we need. some people come along and say, you can't have a program like that because the guy who paid a billion dollars still has 9 billion left. that's no fair. we need to take more of his money. that's called socialism. that's not who we are. there are a lot of people who are trying to make us into a socialist country, but i will tell you something about socialism, all of those countries end up looking the same way, a small group of elite that sit at the top who own and control everything, a rapidly

vanishing middle class and a vastly expanded dependent class. now, if you have noticed we are moving in that direction. bell, we have the ability to stop it. no one else can stop it except for us. we have to have the same determination and drive that the patriots had. they were tired of king george the third and his tyrannical ways. so, what are they do? they started getting together in town halls, invited everyone, even the loyalist and said what kind of america do you want to have. what do you want to pass on to your children and grandchildren? what are you willing to fight for? what are you willing to die for? and it encouraged a ragtag bunch of militiamen to defeat the most powerful empire on earth. we need that same determination

today. everyone here has a sphere of influence. talk to the people in your ear of influence and get them to understand that they must participate. they must get registered. they must vote. they must make their well known because the country is about as. it's about the people. i will tell you something, freedom is not free. you have to fight for it. fight for it every day. and if the minute you relax it starts to wane. we cannot allow that to happen. if we love our children, love our grandchildren, we let the american way, we love the american dream it's up to us.

no one else can do it. thank you. [applause]. [applause]. >> thank you. now, we have time, we have time for a few questions and a lot of your questions will be able to be answered if you want or website website, ben carson.com. and obviously we would appreciate your support. yes. [inaudible] >> thank you for attending. i'm an atheist voter and i am not planted here. and born and raised in iowa. i have a question about how your fate will play a role in your presidency. >> okay. >> some candidates have said

that god's law trumps our country's law, do you agree with that and can you name a situation where that would be the case and secondly mr. cruz has is that he is a christian first and american second. does not hold true for you? >> first of all, everyone including atheists live according to their faith, it's just what they decide to put their faith in. everyone's actions are ruled by the faith. now, in my case i have strong faith in god and i live by godly principles of loving your fellow man, carried about your neighbor, developing your god-given talents for the utmost to become values for three-- people around you and that is going to dictate how i treat everyone. fortunately, our constitution, which is the supreme law of our land was designed by men of

faith. and it has a judeo-christian foundation. therefore, there is no conflict there. so, it is not a problem. does that answer your question? [applause]. [applause]. >> not so much, my question was can you give me a situation where god's laws trumps any law in our country from your point of view? >> well, if it we create that are contrary to the judeo-christian values that we have, then i think that we should fight against those kinds of laws. i personally believe that we still have an obligation to obey the laws whether we agree with

them or not because otherwise we would be a lawless nation, but that does not mean that we shouldn't fight against anything that we seek as unjust and we have the mechanisms built into our system to allow those protests to take place. [inaudible] >> i will always say mr. cruz can speak for himself. [applause]. [applause]. >> you have spoken a lot about using common sense and using your brain and i really appreciate that. in some of the questions of the debates you responded that you really seek the input of the experts.

the experts in the scientific community overwhelmingly agree climate change is a problem. could you explain the discrepancy and why you're not willing to listen to the experts québec first of all, i believe that anyone who is responsible recognizes that they have an obligation to protect the environment. also, to pass it on to the next generation in at least as good of a shape as you found it and therefore, i do not subscribe to the politicization of the environment. that is what leads to things like the clean power plan that the president has been advocating. that the environmental protection agency has said that if we implement every aspect of the clean power plan it will lower the temperature of the earth by 0.05 degrees fahrenheit in 85 years. that is the benefit. the cost? the leaves of dollars in millions of jobs. that makes no sense because that

is ideologically driven. i am every bit for evidence driven things. that's what we do in medicine. we look at the evidence and that's one of the reasons that the last turn-of-the-century the one before this the average age of death was 47 and now it's 80. because militant evidence and make decisions based on evidence. there is no reason that it should not be done in environmental science as well. [applause]. [applause]. >> i am a christian and i will pray for the atheist guy. i just have a question about how the bipartisan part of your view will go in your elected. >> first of all, you will notice the things that i talk about, they are not republican things are democrat things. they are american things and that's one of the things that i think needs to be emphasized to.

we have allowed ourselves to become too divided. jesus said it and abraham lincoln echoed it, a house divided against itself cannot stand. never has and it never will stand. yet, what is going on in our country? a war on women, race wars, income wars, age wars, religious wars, you name it there is a war on it. we are allowing the purveyors of hatred to hold sway. we must reject them. because as americans republicans or democrats, we have a lot more in common than the things that separate us. [applause]. [applause]. >> i always say if it to people agree about everything, one of them isn't necessary, so we need to really get over this and what i always recommend is discuss

things. is there anything wrong with sitting down with someone that you disagree with and having a civil discussion? and to talk about why you believe what you believe and why they believe what they believe and what you will frequently discovers that you are not nearly as far apart as you think you are and we live in a pluralistic society, which means that it is necessary for people to be able to have those kinds of discussions. when you don't have those kinds of discussions, you end up with things like obamacare. where if you shut the other side out and go behind closed doors and you hammer everything out and you make all these myths-- these deals of some like that, that is not the way the system was designed. one of the things that i would do as president is i would have regular meetings with both

parties together, all in one room. and i would have the proceedings televised so that the american people can actually see who is on their side and who isn't. [applause]. >> that will take care of the problem. [applause]. >> doctor carson, you referred to evil in our government and i can a lot of times evil happens in the darkness and semi- question regards government transparency. especially in terms of how our money is spent. i can like i pay my taxes, it goes into a deep hole and i never know and it's almost impossible to find out how your money is actually spent. what can you do as president to provide more transparency and also there are a lot of people who for example with the 911 commission wish that that was reopened that that had not been thoroughly vetted and we got into the iraq were based upon

what happened in 911. would you be willing to reopen some of those past investigations where people feel unsatisfied with the actual process? >> yes, i would be willing to open a large number of things that have been done in recent years because there is no way that people should-- should get away with this stuff as far as i'm concerned. to tickle early, then got-- benghazi bothers the heck out of me. [applause]. [applause]. >> i think about those two navy seals who disobeyed orders and went there and they were on top of that compound fired away with theirs machine guns allowing many of the others to escape. and i'm sure they were thinking, if we can just hold on that help is on the way.

but, helpless on the way. when did we reach a point where we don't try to help our people who are in trouble? i don't know when that occurred, but that is absurd and we need to make sure that that is reversed and the people who were responsible are not hidden away and that they are as far as i'm concerned prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law wherever it reaches. [applause]. [applause]. >> okay, this will have to be the last question. >> hello, doctor carson and thank you for taking my question. this is a healthcare question. my husband and i are both at the university of healthcare workers and my question is in regards to prescription drug costs that a lot of americans are struggling with. a lot of people don't realize how much the united states indirectly subsidizes cheaper medication costs in other developed countries like canada

and britain, for instance. my question is it's a double whammy to us because we have to develop the drugs, bring them to market ended and we pay more for them, so my question is, what are you going to do to help get canada and other developed countries to do their share in paying what they need to so we don't have to subsidize them? thank you. >> i think there are probably a number of possibilities. one of the things that i think would be very wise is to have the drug development process done more in the nih and less in the private sector. so, there won't be the same profit motive associated with it. because the drugs are incredibly expensive and it's very very difficult for people to be able to afford them, but the very same drug you go to turkey and you can buy it for 100 of the

cost that you buy it for here. that does not make a sense that our people-- our people have to subsidize the cost, but i am very familiar with the drug industry. i almost joined the corporate board about when of the big ones and i'm glad he did not do that, now. but, they do everything that they do on a prophet motive. i struggle with the concept of whether something that is so important to people's lives should be under the complete control of people who only have profit motive. when, in fact, we have a mechanism to continue the research and developments through the public sector. so, that we don't have those same kinds of costs, so that is something that i am still in the

process of studying and i am certainly open to lots of different suggestions. one of the things that i believe in is solomon who was the wisest man who ever lived. he said in the multitude of conflicts his safety and i think when we have a problem rather than just assume that you are the fountain of all wisdom and knowledge, why not listen to some other suggestions. we have a lot of people in this country who are very smart and who are very accomplished and in a carson administration we would be calling upon lots of different people and finding out what solutions they have and while i'm talking about solving, let me just close with this little story. i believe that god has a sense of humor. and the reason why i believe that is because when i was 14 i

tried to stab someone in a belt buckle say them and i know some people say that's fantasy, but it's not fantasy and the media was all over that story and said that could not possibly be true and we can't find anyone to verify it even though we only talk to people who knew him after his temper, but then they found the parade magazine article from 1997 when my mother described the whole thing and they said, okay, let's move onto something else. when all of those stories, every single one of them was debunked and they never come back, but point being that day i started reading from the book of proverbs and i have done that every day since that i start every day and every day reading from the book of proverbs. my middle name is solomon, so god knew that i was going to have this for proverbs written by solving, but interestingly

enough when solomon became the king of israel, do you remember the first thing he did that brought him great acclaim? two women claimed to be the mother of the same baby. what did he advocate? divide the baby. that's when i became well known when separated babies. [applause]. [applause]. ..

>> hi, how you doing? >> i'm good. [inaudible conversations] >> how are you? [inaudible conversations] >> i get a selfie with you? >> sure. okay e excellent. >> good, thank you. >> you know how to do it too. [laughter] >> thank you very much for coming. appreciate it. >> absolutely. hi, how are you? thank you. it's very nice meeting you. >> been a fan since you spoke that at thatç breakfast. >> is that right? >> you have a lot of good things to say. >> thank you. thank you, absolutely. >> i get a selfie, please? >> absolutely. >> good luck. >> thank you so much. appreciate that. hi, how you doing? okay, nice to see you.

hi, how are you? >> i've seen you twice now. >> really? >> like what you have to say. >> thank you. >> god bless you. >> thank you so much. >> never quit. >> no. >> never give up. keep it up. >> okay. >> we get a picture with the baby? >> sure. >> well, there you go. >> oh, my goodness, aren't they cute? [laughter] uh-oh, you pushed the wrong button, you pushed it off. >> i'm the most horrible picture taker. that's what i told him. >> the big button. >> this one? oh, i'm so sorry. [inaudible conversations] >> is that good? >> one more, let's do one more. >> oh. >> i mean, you should take a picture with me. i'll be the best -- [inaudible] >> that was good? oh, they're both good. congratulations.

>> my grandchildren adore him. [inaudible conversations] >> my son-in-law's navy. oh, my gosh. >> two, three -- >> all right. >> thank you! i'm going to be the best grandma ever now, thank you. [laughter] >> hey, how are you? >> thank you so much. >> absolutely. how you doing, sir? >> good. you woke me up at the prayer breakfast. >> is that right? praise the lord. [laughter] all right. well, thank you so much. >> your educational policies. i'm a teacher -- >> it's on there. it's on the web site, bencarson.com. >> thank you. >> hi, dr. ben. haven't seen you since barnes & noble. >> oh, is that right? >> we get a picture with you? >> sure. [inaudible conversations]

>> i bet one of those people back there will take it for you. >> going to caucus for you. >> oh, fantastic. thank you. [inaudible conversations] >> thank you. >> i think everybody's going to be in for a surprise on monday. >> yeah, no kidding. >> we know that. >> absolutely. [inaudible conversations] >> okay, all right. >> in order to speak for you, do you have a script written up like -- >> if you talk to ryan rhodes, our iowa coordinator, he would have that. >> he'll have a script? >> yeah. >> okay. >> i get a picture? my daughters is one of your

biggest supporters, and she's not going to be able to get here. >> okay. >> i just have to -- >> tell her i said hi. >> i will do so. [inaudible conversations] >> all right. >> thank you. >> absolutely. hello there, sir. want to get a picture here? >> my wife. >> okay. you know how to do a selfie, i'm impressed. [laughter] i'm very impressed. >> i'm kind of shaky. get it a little further away. >> there you go. all right, very good. i'm impressed. >> i get a picture with you? >> okay. >> even old geezers -- [laughter] >> that's right. >> [inaudible] >> thank you. all right. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> i love that jacket. hi, how you doing? all right. >> you know, when you stood next to barry and blasted in, i said

that man's got to run for president. [laughter] and when vernon came here, what, about three years ago for the run, ben, run campaign, i was there with him. >> is that right? >> yes. >> well, that's what encouraged me to do it. i wouldn't have done it otherwise. it was all those hundreds of thousands of petitions and stuff, and i said, well, if that many people want me to do it, i guess i have an obligation. >> you're called. wonderful. wonderful, well, thank you very much. >> absolutely. >> thank you. and i'm working hard. i got one onboard -- >> excellent. >> actually, her and her husband. >> excellent. >> grandson and granddaughter. >> god willing, we're going to get this country moving in the right direction once again x. the nice thing is, this country has never seen what capitalism looks like when it's associated with compassion. >> true. >> when you do things the right way, you do what's right, it will make it good for everybody, and that's what we really need.

>> thank you. >> absolutely. [inaudible conversations] >> all right. absolutely. thank you. >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> you got it. >> thank you. >> you got it. how you doing? >> thank you for taking my question. >> oh, absolutely. >> do you mind taking a photo with me? >> not at all. happy to. >> see if we can get this to work. >> good to meet you. >> e on behalf of atheists around the country -- >> i have no problem with it. >> and we have no problem with you. we want -- [inaudible] bring bibles to school and places like that. get out of government. >> well, keep spreading that message among the atheists. >> right. >> you know, because the way the country was designed, it was a live and let live country. >> right, right. >> so as long as, you know, my rights don't violate your nos -- >> exactly. i was just going to use the same reference. [laughter] thank you. >> absolutely. >> i appreciate it. >> hi.

>> how you doing? >> can i get a picture here? >> ready? >> yes. >> okay, smile. [inaudible conversations] >> there you go. >> all right. fantastic. >> god bless you. >> thank you so much. hey, the prayers are working. [inaudible conversations] >> probably. west des moines. >> well, we'll put it on -- >> all right, sounds good. thanks. >> it's a pleasure. >> absolutely. [inaudible conversations] >> well, let's see -- >> i don't know how to do it. >> there you go. absolutely, a pleasure. hi, how you doing? >> [inaudible] >> oh, well, thank you. >> will you sign my book? >> absolutely, happy to. >> you want a marker? >> no, this'll work. >> and i get a picture? >> oh, absolutely. >> you're one of the candidates i can honestly believe in -- >> oh, thank you.

is he taking it here? >> yes. >> okay. all right. fantastic. >> thank you so much. >> absolutely. >> god bless. >> thank you. you too. hey. >> [inaudible] >> absolutely. >> it's the constitution. i've been pretty busy. >> fantastic. keep reading it. >> thank you so much, sir. have a nice day. >> thank you, thank you. hi. >> dr. carson, i loved what you said last night -- [inaudible] >> oh, yes. >> taking care of our soldiers and -- >> i would have gladly taken that call, absolutely. >> well, we're going to have a picture. >> okay. >> all right. fantastic. >> thank you so much. so nice to meet you. >> you too. hello. >> [inaudible] >> oh, absolutely. >> thank you. >> you too. hey there, young man. are you a student? >> yeah. >> all right, fantastic. >> i get a picture with you? >> sure.

>> thank you very much. good luck. >> thank you. >> i get a picture? >> you certainly can. >> i saw you on an episode of -- [inaudible] the guy from roots? >> from roots? >> yeah, it was fantastic. i forget the name of the fellow -- >> oh, you're talking about skip gates. henry louis gates. >> yeah, it was fantastic. >> oh, okay. >> that's a very inspirational show. >> oh, thank you. thank you. hello. how you doing? >> good to meet you. i'm a student -- >> excellent. >> and i'm doing rotation right now, so i'm wondering if you have any advice for me. >> yeah. learn how you learn. >> okay. >> because everybody learns differently. and if you can sort of manipulate the things that you need to learn into your area of strength, it makes it go a whole lot faster and a lot easier. >> can i get a photo with you? >> sure, absolutely.

thank you. >> and the other thing is this too will pass. >> okay. [laughter] >> that's a good one. >> okay. >> thank you. >> absolutely. thank you. hi there, young lady. how you doing? okay, good. sure, absolutely. [inaudible conversations] >> all right, thank you. >> that's my hail low. [laughter] halo. all right, thank you. >> [inaudible] >> oh, fantastic. tell them we're working hard to make medicine fun again. >> yeah. because it's not fun right now. >> nice to meet you. >> all right, you too. >> may i get a picture? >> sure. >> thank you. >> fantastic, okay. >> thank you. >> hi. oh, absolutely. >> and thank you for -- [inaudible] >> absolutely. thank you. hi. >> thanks for coming, we appreciate it. >> oh, delighted to be here. thank you so much, thanks for having me. okay. how are you? okay. good to see you. okay.

hi. how are you doing? >> [inaudible] >> absolutely. >> all right. >> thank you. >> if it's -- oh, it was that light right there. o.k.. hi, how are you? >> dr. carson, i've read your -- [inaudible] to my students as a teacher. >> oh, fantastic. >> your story has inspired many people. >> oh, thank you. thanks for what you do for the kids. definitely appreciate that. >> may god bless you. >> all right, thank you. >> can we get a picture? >> absolutely. >> all right. block out that light. >> yeah. >> beautiful. >> thank you, sir. >> all right, take care. hi. >> i just want to -- [inaudible] one of the kindest men i've ever met. >> thank you very much, i appreciate that. hi. >> [inaudible] >> pleasure. >> i do pray for you. >> keep saying your prayers. we're going to save our country.

[inaudible conversations] >> believe me, we're going to fight that hard. we've got to make medicine fun again. okay. >> thanks for coming. >> absolutely, pleasure. thank you. >> hi, thanks for coming. >> absolutely, thank you. hey. hey, congratulations on that beautiful baby. >> can we get a picture? >> sure, absolutely. >> i can get a picture of all of you. >> izzie, that way, that way, there's mom, over there. she says, no, i'm not turning that way. >> dr. carson, you are my hero. >> oh, thank you. [laughter] there you go, there you go. >> beautiful. >> all right. >> thank you and congratulations. >> thank you. >> oh, fantastic. hey, nurses are my favorite people. [laughter] absolutely. all right. anybody else? >> i would like to say you're an exquisite person.

>> oh, well, thank you. >> i really appreciate you being here. i have a suggestion -- >> okay. >> -- on immigration. if you make -- [inaudible] possible have a visa to get a house, to rent a place, to get utilities would be one thing to consider. i had to do that -- >> not a bad idea. >> and if you're doing commerce with people, rent to somebody, you'd get penalized. >> that's not a bad idea. >> and i've got some -- [inaudible] that i will send to your colleague. >> i will have that looked like. >> thank you. >> all right. i think we're done. >> [inaudible] >> hey, appreciate that. >> i get a picture this. >> absolutely. >> you get it? >> all right, good. i'm working hard to save your generation, okay? >> thank you. >> all right. absolutely. >> [inaudible] >> we loved it. we've got six kids. >> the next time you look at it,

notice how realistic the surgical themes are. >> i'm a nurse. >> those are real surgeons and real nurses. >> and i have a daughter with downs syndrome. >> okay. >> yeah, that whole thing -- [inaudible] this is my oldest. >> hi, how you doing? >> i take a picture? >> yeah. okay. uh-oh. all right, absolutely. okay. we've got to run. >> two more real quick. >> two more real quick? all right. >> thank you so much. i don't know why i'm so nervous, but the movie about you, i was so impressed. >> oh, yeah. >> i'm going to be a precinct captain at caucus. >> really? >> you are or you want to? >> i want to. >> [inaudible] >> sure. who's got the camera? [inaudible conversations]

>> okay, she's a premed and political science major. >> oh, fantastic. tell her i said good luck, okay? take care. okay. all right. >> thank you for coming. >> all right. absolutely. >> [inaudible] after obamacare? >> uh-huh. yeah, the whole plan is there. bencarson.com. >> okay. >> did you want a picture. >> >> oh, yeah -- [inaudible] >> thank you. >> all right. >> i shook your hand. my mom would kill me if i didn't get a picture. >> okay. [laughter] [inaudible conversations] >> perfect. >> all right, beautiful. tell your mom i said hi. >> i will. >> absolutely. >> thank you. >> a pleasure. all right. >> i loved your talk. >> thank you. >> god bless you. >> thank you. take care.

[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> and walking out the door there with ben carson, npr tweeting some pictures this morning of its interview with the candidate at smoky row coffeehouse in iowa, the description, bringing in a

crowd, and the iowa caucuses tonight, follow the results as they come in on the c-span network starting at seven eastern. we'll take a look at what to expect and how the iowa caucus system works. we'll also be taking your calls, texts and tweets. and then at 8:00 live coverage from the caucus sites we're covering from a democratic caucus in polk county here on c-span2 while c-span follows a republican caucus meeting in boone. >> joined now by mike draper, owner and founder of raygun, a t-shirt and design company here in downtown des moines, a company that's known for its witty t-shirts including several themed at the 2016 caucus. >> yeah. we've made caucus shirts in general, this one, one of the newer ones, is iowa: for some reason you have to come here for president, which has been a popular gift for people to get. candidates, i think deep down wonder why they have to come here to be president. >> and it's t-shirts not just targeted at the candidates and supporters, but the media as

well who descend on iowa and des moines. >> yeah. when we were thinking of political shirts to do and stuff about the caucus, we thought of stuff just for the media to wear to reduce the number of things they have to ask people. so didn't i interview you four years ago? [laughter] to this is my setting up a shot with the iowa capitol in the background shirt. tell me about iowa, you have to live here, right? you're not able to leave? [laughter] i think some people think we lost the lottery of life and got stuck here, but there are several clearly-marked exits, i just choose to live here. >> there specific candidates in this election cycle that have made selling witty t-shirts easier? >> yeah. this one, this election is even more bizarre than, like, past elections. probably the truest thing we've released is i support the crazy one, which could be about any number of candidates running this year. [laughter] so from, you know, trump to bernie sanders, there's lots of

colorful candidates. we've stuck bernie's face on a t-shirt not really as an endorsement for bernie, but just that he is by far the most expressive candidate from hopeful socialist to angry at the finance regulations. >> and how long have you been in the t-shirt and print design business? >> this has been ten years. so we're ten years old, but that's only -- we're only three years old in caucus years. so this'll be our third caucus. >> and how are you doing caucus wise in terms of sales? is this the best caucus for t-shirts? >> yeah. but now that we're bigger, we sell more of everything. so this has been a great year for us in general. >> do you get candidates that come through here? >> no. we've never had a candidate come through the store. i think there's some slogans they probably don't need to be photographed next to. i think des moines is probably a little too liberal for washington, d.c.'s sensibilities. >> what are some of those slow talibans that they don't want to be -- slogans that they don't want to be interviewed next to? >> this one: dear america, story

about steve -- sorry about steve king. sip serially, iowa. pretty clearly encapsulates how we feel about steve king. when they legalized gay marriage, we did a shirt that says america is now finally as gay as iowa. to a shirt that says the gop creating government small enough to fit inside your vagina, i think is probably -- we'll release shirts tied to pro-choice issues or planned parenthood whenever we haven't had enough crazy people threatening us on the facebook page. >> and even t-shirts for candidates who aren't officially in the race. >> we did one from deez nuts, the 15-year-old from iowa, and jon stewart, we thought he was retiring this summer to make way for his run. >> and join us tonight for our coverage of the caucuses starting at 7:00 eastern on c-span and c-span2.

join us for the republican caucus over on c-span, and we'll be at a democratic caucus site right here on c-span c-span2. iowa governor terry plan sad's campaigning -- branstad's campaigning today with new jersey governor chris riskty who stopped at drake university, and former texas congressman ron paul is campaigning for his son, kentucky governor rand paul. they stopped this morning in urbandale. yesterday they held a campaign rally at the university of iowa. we'll show that to you now. it's just over an hour. >> welcome, everybody. [cheers and applause] is there anybody in the house ready to make america free again? [cheers and applause] we think that's a little better slogan.

[laughter] so i need to talk to you about the caucuses tomorrow night, and then i'm going to make a couple of introductions. there's five things you need to know before 6:30 tomorrow night rolls around. first, first of all, this is a great question for this crowd. how many have voted in an iowa caucus before, raise your hand. look at that. [laughter] how many will be voting in your first caucus tomorrow? raise your hand. [cheers and applause] yeah. so for those of you that voted before, here's what you need to know. we've had redistricting since the last time we had caucuses. that means that your caucus, your precinct has likely changed and, therefore, your caucus may well be in a different location. second, a lot of voters -- especially those going to their first caucus -- believe that their precinct, the place they

vote for school board or city council or whatever is the same place they go for their caucus. it's not. your caucus will be in a different location almost certainly than where you vote normally. so to find, to make sure you go to the right location and you don't miss your opportunity -- because you have to be checked in by seven -- this is the web site where you can put in your e-mail, put in your postal address and find your caucus location. www.yourcaucus.com. that easy. www.yourcaucus.com. that easy, all right? so put that in, make sure you know where you're going tomorrow night. do we have any high school seniors in the room, any high school seniors? wow, look at that. [cheers and applause] yeah, love that. if you are a high school senior, then you can vote in your cause. as long as you're 18 before the

general election this year which is, which is november of this year, the first tuesday after the first monday in november. so plan on attending your caucus tomorrow night and participate. and if your friends are voting for rand paul, take 'em with you. [applause] now, you may not be registered as a republican. at this point you may not be registered at all. that's okay. you can register tomorrow night at your caucus. you don't have to be registered at this point. but if you are going to register at your caucus, make sure that you show up by 6:30 so that, so that you have time to get that done before the balloting begins shortly after seven. all right? final thing i need to point out. we have, we have most of our

precincts in johnson county and the surrounding counties filled, but we don't have all of them filled with speakers. what we want is to have one person in every precinct in the state who is willing to speak on behalf of rand paul. now, cliff is going to talk to you later for the students, so this is for the nonstudents in the room. if you are an adult living outsided the student precincts -- outside the student precincts, then on your way out please check in at our rand paul table and let them know that you would be willing to speak for 2-3 minutes on behalf of rabid paul. -- rand paul. if you don't feel comfortable speaking, that's okay. we have a written statement that you can read, all right? so now i get to introduce to you, first of all, we're going to recognize one of our great supporters in the state of iowa, and i want to recognize pat

milletage. pat is part of the ultimate fighting championships. if you're a ufc fan, he's in the hall of fame, and he broadcasts on mark cuban's network. so thanks, pat, for joining us tonight. [applause] our first guest this evening, i've really gotten to know him this year. and you know what? when his time as a congressman ends, i'm recommending he hits the comedy circuit, because congressman massey is a great storyteller, he's a great patriot, and he's a great defender of liberty. he's one of the great defenders of liberty in the united states congress, and so let's give a big welcome to congressman thomas massie. [cheers and applause]

>> you guys are loud! [applause] i want to start out by talking about labels. do people try to label you all? they try to label me in congress. they can't figure me out. here's a republican that drives an electric car? what's up with that? some people, you know, some people just call me a tea party extremist, right? that one doesn't fit too well. some people call me a constitutional conservative. sometimes they'll call me libertarian. [cheers and applause] you know the label i like the best? it's when they say he's one of the guys that came up with the plan to take out john boehner. [cheers and applause] all right. what i'm going to tell you now you might not want to hear. there's a lot of different interpretations of the conservative ideology, okay? so when you get to congress, you need to hire good staff, but you

need a diverse staff, one that represents the ideological spectrum of conservativism, right? so when i hired my staff, i got the most diverse staff i could come up with so we would have great arguments. i hired half ron paul people and half rand paul people. [laughter] [applause] you should see them argue! [laughter] so why did i spend 15 hours in a car coming from kentucky up to iowa? this week? because it's the same reason i ran for congress. if i have to look at my grandkids and we're live anything a socialist country or a fascist country or our empire has imploded and if i have to look them in the eye and tell them i didn't do everything i could do to save this country, i would feel so bad. that's why i ran for congress, that's why i came to iowa. and you might be saying, well, didn't you look at the polls,

congressman massie? you should have just stayed in kentucky. the polls say, you know, we're not going to win. folks, i didn't look at the polls because the polls said i wasn't going to win. the polls said rand was never going to be a senator. three months ago the polls said the democrat was going to win the governor's race in kentucky, and now we've got a tea party conservative governor in kentucky. [applause] has anybody here, show of hands -- just admit it -- ever watched "house of cards"? ..

he is the only one. there were 99 senators against him. when i stood with him on the floor of the senate, when he filibustered, something called the freedom act. [applause] why did he filibustered it? because we're trying to undo the evil of the patriot act and they hijacked our bill called the freedom act and made it just as people. he was the only one who would stand up and say, this is a

shame. this is a shame. washington, d.c. has been a shame. the only way you are going to fix it is to elect senator paul. now, who is ready for some liberty? [applause] >> what if i told you your vote makes a difference? >> what if i said it's possible to force the nation to listen? >> show the world what the youth vote is worth. >> marks the rebirth of student activism. >> what if i told you the future of our country rests on your decision to elect the only candidate with a liberty centered vision of? >> the only candidate that stands tirelessly for you. >> i have a lot of family members who are locked up and no other politician is standing up and fighting for those individuals. >> rand paul need you.

>> caucus for truth. >> truth once and for all. the youth vote does matter. >> i would tend thousand is about spreading a message. >> more widespread than ever. >> literally means each and every vote count. >> we need this man as our next commander-in-chief. >> i stand with rand because rand stance with us. >> is not a corrupt politician like hillary clinton. >> the only true political independent. >> the only true defender of the entire bill of rights, not just the second amendment. >> bringing this message to people who have not heard it. >> he stand with us. >> individual liberty is reignited. >> a country reignited. a union undivided. >> is the only candidate that understands that we are not

truly free. >> when we sacrifice our god-given liberties. >> when a federal reserve bank determines the value of our currency. >> when the cost of college tuition is bloated. >> we can never be free with the court system and outdated drug laws that disproportionately punish minorities and african-american communities. >> when our military strength is spread out. >> now more than ever rand paul need you. >> to seize the heart of the campaign and put in the hands of the grassroots. >> you have the power to break up the establishment, inspire the ambivalent. give voice to the silent. >> fundamentally changed the course of this election. >> let's elect rand paul as our next commander-in-chief. [applause]

>> ladies and gentlemen, please help me welcome congressman ron paul. [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> it sounds like the revolution is alive and well. [applause]

and we are not going to allow the american people to forget it because it is so crucial and, of course, this week -- before get started in my comments, before we introduce the next president -- [applause] i want to come we have a lot of family members here and they can introduce them all. i might miss one or something. but i can't miss one. one special person. that is my wife. she is with me, carol, somewhere here. [applause] it's been a few years since i've been here. i think for yourself i am around a little bit, and i think eight years ago i was, but eight years ago my wife and i celebrated our

wedding anniversary here. we were married 51 years, and tomorrow we celebrate 59 years. [applause] i usually think about liberty in a rod spectrum. where has liberty been and how long have we been fighting for it? how will we be involved? is this an an american invention or what? the struggle has been around for a long, long time. i think back what are the basic principles of this free libertarian society? is basically the absence of the use of violence against your neighbor. you know, it's sort of like the house shall not lie, steal, cheat, and kill. it works rather well. actually those gruesome -- those rules have been around for a long time. it was a code to java people

kind of ethical standards you should have to advance society. and they have been very valuable and we've talked about them for a long time. but something has happened these past 100 years. things have gotten turned upside down. we still have an ethical code. individuals abuse those codes quite frankly, you know, and still people do bad things. now maybe you can hear me? [applause] should i start all over again? [applause] in and of the me tonight is my wife carol. -- and that individual with me tonight is my wife carol. [applause] of the revolution is alive and well.

[applause] now i do want to check, which rejected make sure some of you remember a year or two ago when i was here. is anybody remember that we used to talk about ending the fed? [applause] [chanting] >> okay, how about it's time to bring our troops home? [applause] and it's time to not load up our prisons with nonviolent criminals associated with our drug war. let's eliminate the war on drugs by the federal government. [applause]

and as i sang a minute ago, i was going to get a little bit into the history of the history of liberty. and making the point that personal contact is very important even if you live in a free society, that condit of the citizens make all the difference in the world. and so the code of conduct actually started even before probably 1500 years or three or 400 years before moses gave us, brought down the 10 commandments. no line, no cheating, no stealing and killing. good code. most people fall away. still people recognize the. there's lots of abuse but people still recognize you're not supposed to steal. you're not supposed to lie and you're not supposed to murder and kill people. but what has happened is now it's turned on its head. my biggest goal is to make sure that government doesn't do any of those things. [applause]

we have a government that lied us into war. this deal through the income tax. they steal through fraudulent debasement of the countries of the federal reserve. so they are the real culprits, and there's a lot of unnecessary illegal unconstitutional wars going on and too much killing is coming back to haunt us and we have to take that under control because it will not bring us peace and prosperity if we continue with a foreign policy that we have today. [applause] thomas hobbes said a long time ago the ideas of liberty must grow wheat in the hearts of man if the tyrants ever want to kill, before the tyrants can kill those ideas. so once the ideas of liberty

become weak in our hearts, that's the only time hybrids can be successful. and the good news is that the american people, in spite of the media, in spite of what you read, in spite of the propaganda, in spite of the polls, the love of liberty is grow -- growing by leaps and bounds which is good with the tyrants on defense and that's exactly what is happening today in the campaign. because they don't want to the message of liberty. they will have people all over the spectrum, because they will argue for the use of more government and more authority. conservative authoritarianism as well as this ancient idea of government control of the economy. one thing that was interesting in our early history was that the plymouth colony, plymouth colony was very unsuccessful, so to speak, more than half died and had collectivism and everyone was to work together and share what they raised.

they starved. after two years governor bradford said it's not working. what he was saying was, socialism wasn't working. [applause] so he made this really wild suggestion, and i did that have been around even before plymouth colony. he said why do we turn the property over to each and everyone of you as an individual, and guess what happened? productivity skyrocketed. there was no more starvation. and the interesting part is that there were excesses of excesses in production, enough to take care of all the people who were too sick to have a garden. so it does work. it does work if we just give it a chance. this whole idea, if you think now that we have people on the wide end of the spectrum do want to say we need more government,

more authoritarianism, whether it's conservative authoritarianism or liberal conservatism. i'll tell you what, this country should that even pay any attention to the concept of going backwards to the ideas of socialism. [applause] after we had the, well, the 10 commandments and all, another major move on the ideas of freedom was the great charter, the magna carta. and the magna carta made an attempt to do what i was talking about a minute ago, to hold the government to the same conditions that they hold the people do. and the idea of the writ of habeas corpus. and just think of what's happening today.

the writ of habeas corpus, because there are some who are running even today as conservatives who are willing to give up the writ of habeas corpus and sacrifice that liberty has been around for a long, long time. i would say be careful, look for the civil libertarian who understands that. at a for the candidate we are supporting here tonight make very clear statements about the whole idea that our government now can hold people without charges. and not only that, some of them can end up in guantánamo and who knows where. but the principle of liberty needs to be revived. i think it is. we've every reason to be optimistic because we can't just listen to the polls. we can't listen to one collection. because i'll tell you what's on our side. once on our site is that we don't have to of nuclear weapons to win this.

ideas have consequences, good ideas have good consequences. we are on the side of good ideas. [applause] so the whole job we have is getting that message out in understanding that liberty is a moral issue, and individual issue, and it's built around a principle of nonaggression which i think is wonderful and beautiful. because what it does is say we can't address begins anybody else. does that say that we should impose ourselves on other people? no. there's a lot of talk about in this campaign about humility. i haven't is sort of like the subject and think that it pays off to be a bit humble at times. libertarianism actually encourages you to be humble. because the first thing you do is you recognize what you don't

know. you get off on a lot better if you say i don't know that answer. in politics how do any of us know what's good for the next, your next-door neighbors? we don't know what is best how they should spend the money, they should go off and fight wars. we don't know what's best for them so we should admit we don't know. then the other thing that humility invites is that we are willing not to do the things we know we should do. if you get confused i have a simple solution to if you're not sure about what we should or shouldn't do, for political reasons, we could start with the constitution. that would be a good place to start. [applause] the other thing is there's been a lot of talk about corruption. i don't know if you've been reading the news. there's been all bit of that in

washington, a little bit of corruption there. most people think get rid of the corruption. that's when the politicians take money under the table. that's not the major corruption. there's some of that and it's right to be annoyed with that, but where the real corruption is is in the ideas, the ideologies, the policies that we have come this feeling that goes on robbing people who work hard. making sure interest rates can't be paid to anybody if you're retired or wanted to give yourself you have zero or 1% interest rate while someone else gets free money, gets bailed out. at his corruption although it is considered legal. the corruption of ideas, this collectivism, this whole idea that you don't have a right to your life, you do have a right to liberty, you'd have a right to the fruits of your labor. i happen to believe that we should have all those rights. [applause]

let me close because you have a special speaker coming up year, freedom, remember, is popular here freedom is popular for one very good reason. it brings people together. i'll be divisive in this country? couldn't be more divisive come yelling and screaming and hollering at him and and saying i'm going to do this, i'm going to do this, i have a solution. but it's not freedom that they are offering. why does freedom of bring people together. like a brother people together at the plymouth colony. they came together, worked hard, families work, they are production, help the people who couldn't take care of themselves. it stands very clear that it didn't work. what was the 20 center all about? i think we should look back and hopefully we can look back and say one thing we did, we buried

the ideology of communism and we didn't have to drop one nuclear bomb on them. [applause] but if you understand liberty, they should bring everybody together. why? because you're not going to tell everybody what to do. it opens up the door for whatever religious you want whatever billy jeff on sexual behavior, whatever pleased to have on what books you're going to read. you don't have to have the government involved in these decisions. you bring people together. that means leftists and people on the right come if they can come to libertarianism because these liberties as they see fit. if we are not going to be not so much that we can't be judgmental and make an opinion and teach our children a certain way, people use liberty in a bad manner, but if they use it and

you think it's immoral, you can ask to be tolerant of thumb some the things people do because if not it doesn' doesn't work. that is used doesn't work. that is used to assess of government i is a you're going o live your life this way or spend your money this way, and one side says future these kind of habits, the other side says this is how we what you spend your money. i think the simple explanation is what would it be like if you had a next-door neighbor that you thought they were not raising the kids right and you marched in educated construction on its us what to do? it wouldn't go over very big. this is what we do around the world. we go over and we tell people, but i think dishonestly. we go around and tell them how we're going to make them are democrats and make them a great democratic society. we set it up and force elections, we don't like the dictator so we bombed them the next day. so this is the insanity of that foreign policy and it's where we are going on civil liberties

because they don' don't understt to every individual shall be protected and you we should be friends with everybody who honors and respects the idea that i'm never going to interfere with your life and your property, and there will always be a square deal, do what we promised. can you imagine what a wonderful world it would be everybody except to those principles? and yet i don't entrust it to the government. the government is now the biggest abusers of those rights. so our goal is to further spread the message of liberty and work towards this freer society. i'll tell you what, you have not just theoretical stuff. i like the theoretical things. i like the history of liberty, but then there are some practical things. every once in while a few of us get involved in politics, you know? we tried to get things done. but you have an opportunity tomorrow to spread this message by sending a message. they can make all the difference in the world. so yes, it's very frustrating

and a lot of people are very frustrated about doing it. one thing i learned early on from a teacher of mine, leonard read, he said that remember it's not a majority issue. we are not democrats in that sense. it's not the majority that you need. you need an irate minority keen on spreading the brush fires of liberty into all the people because if you spread this message, a minority, which is 8% of the population, believe me, if you're in this audience tonight you are already in the 8%. so you don't have to get disgusted, but for us to become and discouraged, but for us to continue the success we've to send a message. we also have to take your leadership and get people into office. i always thought my roll was mainly to go to washington on a promise to do what i said and get reelected. maybe some day somebody would look at it, look at the record. but this is important.

so yes, the political process is filled with frustrations and irritations and corruption and all these things. but the prevailing attitude of the people is always exist in the government. the prevailing attitudes of people today is influx. the era that was a the 20 center not only communism and then it was taken over by keynesian interventionism and central bank inflation is him, it's coming to an end and that's wonderful because our message -- [applause] there is no other message that will bring the people together other than that message of liberty. that is the only answer that we have today to offer. the vacuum is out there already. it's collapsing. even today we are wondering when will our government tell us that we can't even take cash out of the bank?

silly stuff like that. that system is dead and gone. it's a matter for the collapsing and with the answers monetarily. in order to make a big point, what you need to do is get behind the next president of the united states, rand paul. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ ♪

>> thank you, thank you. thank you, thank you. i think you have just heard from the father of the modern liberty movement. [applause] i'd like to introduce you to my wife, kelly. [applause] we've only been married for 25 years. and my brothers and my sisters and whole group from texas, if they would stand. [applause] the lord's prayer is 66 words long. the gettysburg address is 286

words long. declaration of independence, 1322 words long. but the government regulations for the sale of cabbage are 26,911 words long. [booing] president obama has added 25 million words of regulations. we have a government -- [booing] we have a government that is literally run amok. obamacare was 2000 pages long. member when nancy pelosi said, you can read about it after we pass it, she said. [booing] i've got a better idea. why don't we read the bills before we pass them? [applause]

unelected bureaucrats have added 20,000 pages of regulations just for obamacare. i've got a novel idea. why don't we repeal to regulations for every one we consider? [applause] i think liberty is under assault like never before. without liberty our senses are dulled and dumbed down by rules and regulations. the question we face is not without of just the moment but is of such magnitude that we must choose today whether liberty can survive in a democracy unrestrained by constitution. can a civilization that chooses to transfer the fruits of labor from one group to another, can

such a civilization long indoor? won't we inevitably run out of other people's money? [applause] the american experiment with liberty is not totally one. today, tomorrow and the day after that we must fight to restrain the brother. will you stand with me? will you stand together against the rising tide of government access that threatens to trap us in the clutches of big brother? will you stand with me? [cheers and applause]

[chanting] >> thank you, thank you. i think we have come i think we have confirmed you will stand with me. [laughter] i hope you will also, i hope you will also caucus with me tomorrow. [applause] in washington and on the campaign trail, republicans and democrats alike call out for bigger government. only a president who understands the corrupting influence of big government can stop it. on the right, the call for is enlarging the military. on the left, if -- they call for enlarging the welfare state. and the beautiful secret in washington is the right and the left always get what they want,

more spending, and you get stuck with the bill. [booing] could come you guys are getting it. you cheer for the good stuff and good for the bad stuff. [laughter] the loudest voices in washington for more spending are actually right now republican voices. recently cruz and rubio put forward an amendment -- [booing] they put forth an amendment to increase military spending by $200 billion. [booing] [inaudible] [laughter] [applause] so i decided i would counter this amendment. they want to increase military spending $200 billion. i before and in an that said if you want to increase military

spending, you've got to cut it summer else. guess what happened? cruz and movies it will only vote to raise spending but not if we had to cut something. this is the sort of washington. everybody wants to spend but nobody has the guts to cut things. when i am president we will balance the budget because i will look at all spending across the board. [applause] the inconvenient truth is that you can't be a conservative if you are liberal with military spending. we do -- [applause] we do not become a stronger or a safer nation if we borrow from china to inflate our military budget. we spend more on our military than russia and china, and the

next eight nations combined. more than 10 countries combined is what we are currently spending. there is waste everywhere. from $43 million to build a natural gas gas station in afghanistan, to a nearly $1 million we spent developing a televised cricket league for the afghanis to watch. it's crazy what we are doing. the unholy compromise is that republicans did more military spending only if they trade democrats a whopping dose of increased domestic spending. to balance the budget we have to restrain across the board all spending. that's how i've been able to proposed a budget that actually balances. the national taxpayers union namnamed me the most frugal lawmaker in washington, because i am willing to look everywhere for wasteful spending.

[applause] both parties carelessly infringe upon our civil liberties and contribute to an assault on the bill of rights. the left attacks your second amendment right to bear arms. the right attacks your fourth amendment right to privacy. i'm the only candidate on the stage who will defend the entire bill of rights. [cheers and applause] since the terrorist attack at san bernardino, the left is calling out for more gun control, but the right is called out for more people control. the left called for bans on gun

sales, and the right clamors for the government to gather up all of our records. i don't know about you, but i say that our phone records are not of their damn business. [cheers and applause] they claim we will not be safe without letting the government collect all of our records. but there's no evidence that their actions have made a safer. to bipartisan commissions investigated the governments bulk collection of all your phone data and found absolutely zero terrorist plots were disrupted. the circuit court, the court just below the supreme court, ruled that the bulk collection phone records is illegal. cruz though claime claim he wass on reforming the nsa.

[booing] but he talks out of both sides of his mouth. [applause] you saw him on allowing the nsa to collect 100% on this, he said no, he voted of your cell phone records. [booing] if his goal is to collect 100% of your cell phone record, he greatly missed understands the liberty movement. [cheers and applause] i've got a better idea. why do we collect 0% of your phone records? [applause] -- why don't.

keeping the government out of our records is essential to creativity. pink floyd understood -- all right. pink floyd understood the genius needs to be left alone. whether your ideas are politically correct or not, whether you're a painter or a self-proclaimed prophet, the exultation is to shine. shine on, you crazy diamond. [applause] for the crazy diamonds to shine, government must get out of the way. to leave me alone generation is a generation that believes they can conquer the world and solve any problem if left free to follow their dream. you are to leave me alone generation, and i want you to shine, shine on.

[cheers and applause] it isn't about how government will lead us to prosperity. the debate is about getting government out of the way of human ingenuity. to defend ourselves without bankrupting america, we must re-examine our foreign policy. ted cruz, donald trump, marco review, let's just say et cetera, et cetera, they will tell you that they want to carpet bomb the middle east. cruz wants to make the sand below. [booing] trump has informed us that our problem is that we been unwilling enough to use nuclear weapons. [booing] i'm the only candidate who asks, will indiscriminate bombing of civilians create more terrorists

than we kill? i'm the only one, i'm the only one willing to point out that every time we'd use our military might to topple secular dictators from saddam hussein to gadhafi, the result has been chaos. the boy has not been filled with jeffersonian democracy. the void has been filled with radical islam -- the void has not been filled with jeffersonian democracy. the iraq war alone cost us a trillion dollars. we lost 5000 of our younger if men and women. thousands will live on with catastrophic injuries. as commander-in-chief i would never ignore the human cost of war. [cheers and applause]

[chanting] >> thank you. the other candidates offer you more of the same. macho rhetoric, fear mongering, and perpetual war. rubio says we should shun putin. hasek says we should punch in the nose. chris christie says -- [booing] christie says that we need to be ready to shoot down russian planes currently flying over syria and iraq, and yet no one asks, what happens next. alone on the stage i call for a

reasonable, realistic foreign policy where we stand strong enough to deter any attack, but not eager to start world war iii. [applause] war should be the last resort, not the first. we must fight it should be to defend america, not for regime change and not for nationbuilding. when i am president we will only fight wars that are constitutionally declared by congress. [cheers and applause]

one candidate in particular wants you to give him power. he tells you he's rich so he must be smart. [booing] if you give him power, he says he will fix america. but you know what? there's another tradition in america, a tradition that believes that power corrupts. and that our goal should not be to gain power but to contain power, delimited presidential power. our founding fathers feared centralization of power. as madison wrote, where in excess of power prevails, no man is safe in his opinions, his person, or his possessions. our founding fathers wrote the constitution to restrain the accumulation of power by government. trump is ignorant of this tradition. [applause]

anand in many cases he is overty opposed to the limited government philosophy. he believes government has the right to seize your property and give it to a rich crony through eminent domain. [booing] this is abhorrent to anyone who champions the rights of the individual. he supported the government bailing out on the banks. [booing] he has used government to get rich and boldly his competition, and now he asks you to give him power. this race, this race should be about which candidate will protect you from an overbearing government, not which candidate will grab the ring of power. [applause]

electing gollum should not be our objective. [applause] i am the only one in this race who doesn't want power or dominion over you. i want to set you free. i want to leave you alone, and i want a government so small you can barely see it. [cheers and applause] thank you, thank you. thank you. thank you. for several years now i've been

fighting against indefinite detention. a law that allows american citizens to be imprisoned without a jury trial, a law that was sadly signed by president obama a few years ago. [booing] my fear is that one day a president might use indefinite detention the same way fdr used executive power to send japanese americans to internment camps were to begin african-americans like they once did in the south. power corrupts as we've seen with an out of control irs using its power to harass and intimidate conservatives. the irs presumes you are guilty until proven innocent. [booing] imagine being detained without a trial. because your own government deems you suspect that doesn't have to prove it. which i think of the terrible possibilities of indefinite detention, i'm reminded of a

scene from "to kill a mockingbird" when atticus stares down the vigilante mob that is come to lynch tom robinson. luckily stout comes to the rescue. she recognizes the leader of the month as a father of a boy from a class. i go to school with your son walter, she says. he's in my grade and he does write well. ibm at one time but he was really nice about it last night tell him pay for me, will you? a little girl broke the angry mood of the mob by personalizing it. scout found the inhumanity that exists even in a mob hell-bent on violence. when there is mob, there is a mob intent on indiscriminate government searches. when there's a mob intent on detention without trial, then someone must stand up, someone must stand up and shout down the mob. and as president i will not only shut down the mob, i will in

indefinite detention once and for all. [cheers and applause] when everyone says we must give up our liberty for a false sense of security, i can't help but think of atticus again. with atticus of the case of defending tom robinson, most of the townsfolk at the wrong. in washington that sentiment is often true. after my filibuster for the right to be left alone, some said i was the most unpopular person in washington. [applause] but i thought of what atticus finch said. before i can live with other folks, i've got to live with myself. the one thing that doesn't abide

the majority rule is conscience. the majority is not always right. affect the majority is quite often wrong. for republican to win again, we will need to be brave enough to believe that ideas are powerful. may be even stronger than armies. to win, we will need to become a bigger, better, bolder party. we need to welcome people of all walks of life, black, white, brown, with tattoos and without tattoos. with the rings and without your rings. [applause] -- your rings. we need to be a bigger, better, more diverse party. and as my dad always said, liberty brings people together. [cheers and applause]

it's the common desire to be left alone. it binds us all together as unique individuals. after all, big government hurts people from all walks of life, rich and poor. the woman in detroit who wanted to run a harebrained business out of her apartment and got shut down by big government. the developer movin dirt on its own land who was jailed by agents. the small business that can't compete with corporations and their armies of compliance officers, accountants and lawyers. the elderly woman losing her home to eminent domain. the teenager from a poor family facing jail time for marijuana. what do all of these individuals have in common? they are all losing their liberty to big government. today your government has 48 federal agencies from the irs to the department of education.

they have heavily armed swat teams. is this freedom? >> no. spirit when i am president these attacks on our liberties will stop once and for all. [cheers and applause] the gop has been the party of emancipation. we are the party of civil rights. we need to be the party of justice. justice begins when the war on drugs ends. [cheers and applause] a generation of young black mann has been incarcerated and permanent lost the privilege of

voting and the opportunity to work. the war on drugs has disproportionately incarcerated those who live in poverty in our cities. though blacks and whites used drugs at about the same rate, three out of four people in prison are black or brown. we must begin to treat addiction as a health care problem and not an incarceration problem. [cheers and applause] for five years i thought, i've thought for a bill on my dad worked two decades on, audit the fed. [cheers and applause] i fought for five years just to get a vote on the bill.

but when i finally got a vote on the bill, ted cruz was nowhere to be found. [booing] [shouting] in fact, he was the only republican to miss the boat. even worse, ted maintained that the correct response to the great recession was to have the fed more aggressively lower interest rates. when we all know -- [booing] we all know that artificially low interest rates are the problem, not the solution. [applause] when i am president of the federal reserve will learn that their days of unlimited power are over. [applause]

[chanting] america has much greatness left in her. we are still exceptional come and we are still a beacon for the world. we will thrive when we believe in ourselves again. i see an america strong enough to deter foreign aggression, yet wise enough to avoid unnecessary intervention. i see an america where criminal justice is applied equally, any law that disproportionately incarcerate people of color is repealed. [cheers and applause] i see an america with the restrained iran's that cannot target and harass american citizens for their political or

religious beliefs. [applause] -- irs. i see a simplified flat tax that unburdensome our citizens from the fear and intimidation of the tax code. i would unleash, i would unleash the engine of capitalism to create jobs and opportunity like never before. [applause] our corporate tax is the highest in the world. is it any wonder that our companies are leaving our shores? money goes where it's welcomed. i would bring corporate investment back by cutting our corporate tax and immediately bringing home $2 trillion in american profit to stimulate our economy. [applause]

icy our big cities once again shining and beckoning with creativity and ingenuity with american companies offering american jobs. i have a vision for america beyond partisan squabbling, beyond petty division. with your help, with your help this message will ring from coast to coast. a message of liberty, justice, and personal responsibility. a message that will gain support from across the political spectrum, a message that will prevail and a message that will ultimately carry your message of liberty to the white house. [cheers and applause]

[chanting] thank you. thank you. thank you. i'm going to introduce now ahead of our students for rand paul, for the whole country. [applause] he's going to make a couple of announcements and also want to make one myself. myself. they came and said thank you. i'm going to be doing an interview with meghan kelley. [applause] and if anybody wants to stick around and show her what an enthusiastic crowd we've had tonight, we would love to have you there. [cheers and applause] >> a tweet from the rand paul campaign from the kentucky senators arrive at its

headquarters. ahead of the caucus by picking occasions director reporting hundreds of people showed up. you can policy stance live coverage of the iowa caucuses starting at 7:00orking eastern. we are inside the iowa campaignh headquarters of the jabber 2016 campaign joined by philip, a consultant with jabber 2016 but for many years was known as one of the super volunteers of the s iowa caucuses.t hea that term still haven't heard that term before.olunte what is a superer volunteer? >> generally speaking it'ss viewed differently by different people in terms of what would constitute that acronym that is one of those above and beyond what is expected of a volunteerc to participate. with their activity. of and commit an inordinate amount of time to accomplish the task

at hand and basically it was done from the heart to gather all of the information that is mr. to complete the campaign task. disco above and beyond and commit for that. >> and get a sense of the above and beyond you went last campaign cycle, you are given an award by the state party for making 25,000 campaign phone calls. how does one make 25,000 phone calls in one cycle? >> well, there are a number of ways to do that. one, you can make multiple calls at one time. sometimes i work with two phones out of my hands. those are the differences with the landline system you can do that. you can basically get to the car although quicker, although more efficiently and go onto the next one. just stick with it. it's stick with it that is most important. >> what makes a good campaign

phone call on your end of the line? >> first of all it's having a good connection, being able to get the targeted vote on the phone with you to engage that voter by correctly pronouncing their name, and then proceeding in a professional way to obtaining their feelings with regard to that information once you extract from them come and get it completed and noted in a system that you have come and go from there. >> what is the name so important for you? >> the persons name is music to the ears and there's no greater utterance that person likes or other than their own name. >> and iowa caucuses tonight. you can follow the results with those on the c-span network starting at seven future. we'll take a look at what to expect and how the caucus system works. at eight, life comes from the caucus sites in iowa. the democrats you on c-span2 and republicans over on c-span.

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