64 photographs. that we didn't want publish 700 photographs. that would slightly defeat the purpose. so, of the 700 i endlessly culled them down into what struck me as the most powerful pics. pics that fit my ten themeatic rubrics and then the publisher purchased the licensing fees to those sort of crucial 64pics. >> precious little in my memory, maybe a couple pics that came out of foreign press agencies that never got back to us. they weren't, again i'll have to chick the publisher dishes was sort of out another of that particular loop but the pictures were not bought in general

directly from the "times" per se but from the photo agencies to which the pictures belong. >> i think we have time for one more, and then david and milton will be at this table over here signing books. >> i almost want to encourage your next book to kind of explore that idea of -- >> the "washington post" war photos. >> well, the idea about war porn because on the one hand you have news outlets that kind of curate art, and on the other i wonder what you think about news outlets who look at war as a video game, as graphic spectacle. between those two extremes, i kind of wonder -- both sides

kind of -- not fantasize but kind of distance us from war. so i wonder what hope there is for journalism to convey the reality of war justly. >> that's -- i think you probably stomached me. that a -- stumped me. that a great question. i don't have the answer, of course. if i did i'd be taking the photographs, but what videos do you have in mind? is there a particular web site you have in mind or thinking of, say, more like video games? >> i'm kind of thinking of cnn. at my work it plays constantly, all day, and the graphic footage they choose, it is gritty, raw, and it is disturbing. i think that's part of the appeal, is that they'll play this on a loop so that you're

fascinated and you're horrified, but you won't look away, and i don't think that it conveys a bipartisan view of war as it exists today or as it has always existed. i think it leans you towards one emotion or other that is either for or against the message that they want to send that day. >> i'm tempted to perhaps leave things there. to me, you left it on a really provocative, challenging question, partly i don't have the answer but i absolutely promise you that will be my next book. [applause] >> thank you very much, david,

and milton, and thank you all for coming tonight, and supporting us. good night. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> now on book've, a lit rather tour of santa barbara, california, we threaten help of cox communications. we start our trip with travel writer pico a'er who discusses his book, "the art of stillness" which describes what he learned

len he stopped traveling and slowed down his life. >> the first day i decided to do nothing was i think a really busy day. i was working in new york city some years ago and i had a very exciting job, and we used to work late, and very excel rating and i got into a cab to go home, we were four locked away from times square, and all the flashing lights and the sense of the kid being in the big city and i was really happy, but suddenly i realized then, i'm racing around so much, never have the chance to think how deep this happiness is. a kind of adrenaline rush but this is what i want to do with my whole life. i was in my 20s and covering world affairs for "time magazine" and i had interesting colleagues but i thought i can never separate myself from the life to see if it's the life shy be living should i should do something radically different, and i moved to japan, and i suddenly realized although

there's a lot of surface excitement in my life it wasn't sustaining me, and that if i was to end my life think can i'd spent the whole of it four blocks from times times square maybe i wouldn't think it's a good life. so i had an apartment on the 13th floor in park avenue, the trucks rumbling past night. i would go down to the subway, get into the 25th floor office on 50th street in the middle of rockefeller center, and then i worked 14, 16 hours a day and enjoying my work and didn't resent that but i would get back in the box, back into the subway, back into the mocks every day for four years. and now where i live in japan i'm in a two room apartment in the middle of nowhere with my life and our kids. -- my wife and our kids, no media, no tv i can understand, and so i wake up and have breakfast, i make ten-foot commute to my desk because it's such a tiny apartment that the

desk is next to the bed and at the dining table. i write for maybe five hours. and then i take a long walk around the neighborhood, and after that, we have a terrace about this size and i will sit there and a have a cup of tea and read for an hour. i religion take another work and then slowly take care of my e-mails and they seem like they're coming from another planet, of course, living in rural japan, and then i'll play ping-pong with my elderly neighbors and then read more and still have maybe five hours left in the day. i realized, one reason i left new york city for japan was i wanted to -- time was more important to me than money, i suppose, and that i felt that the day that stretched a thousand hours would give me time to give myself to what i care about to remember what i care about, and not to feel rushed, and i suppose i read this book, "the art of stillness" not because of my life but all of us are running around faster and faster and

faster, and our machines are getting faster and faster and there's no way humans can keep up with machines without becoming machines themselves. so at some point all of us are finding we have to find a way to step back' catch our breath and that's my extreme way. i think everybody is thinking about their own way nowdays. of course, when i gave up this secure and glamorous job for a life doing nothing in japan, all my friends and family and colleagues were shocked. i remembered soon after i moved to japan i got a post card from one of my oldest friends from high school. he said sounds like you've gone crazy. well done, and i thought he newfoundlands my needs. me parents were concerned, giving up a steady income for the unknown, and my colleagues thought i was mad, and most of them are still in new york city, 30 years on, and realen joying it. so they wouldn't have been the right move for them. but it's the one move i never regretted and noticed after i got there all the time i was in

new york city i was always thinking, what if i were in kyoto or lived somewhere else, leading a radically different life, and as soon as i got to japan i never thought about maybe shy be in europe. i instantly felt at home and thought this is the life that's been waiting for me, and i finally made my way to it so a few years after i moved to japan, i was invited to drive up into the cold, dark hills behind los angeles, a little like what is behind me now to visit my heroes since miss boyhood, leonard cohen, and i was really impressed and moved to find this man who had taste evidence assault the pleasure another the world and could be living anywhere in any high style he wanted, had chosen to become a zen monk and was living for five and a half years in this quite severe, foreign bidding monastery up close to the snow, doing really grueling manual work and literally sweeping up and cleaning things, day in and day out, and this is a man who

is already a sell -- celebrity and that made a big imappreciation only me, and i remember while i was staying in the monastery with leonard cohen, he came down one night, 2:00 in the morning to my little cabin and she said this the really profound excitement of entertainment i've had in life, and this is a man who tasted sex and drugs and rock 'n' roll but he said this is the most sustaining thing i found, and i was in my mid-30s at that time itch didn't fully understand it. and i thought maybe he is just saying it because it sounds impressive but i found the same thing, and i'm by profession a travel write sore i've been to many exciting places and going to burma tonight, was in mongolia a couple of weeks ago, analysis places that sound wonderful but i never found a trip that satisfied me in as deep a way other as going snowy, and i -- going nowhere, and i have been traveling for 30 years, and i remember when i was

beginning in the 1980s, i would talk about going to tibet or going to cuba, and my friends' eyes would light up. it was difficult to get to those places and before the internet we didn't even -- it was hard to know what it looked like or smelled like or sounder like. nowdays anybody watching this from can access every last corner of tibet, probably on their smartphone tonight while lying in the bar, and i notice that now daze peoples eyes really light up when i say i'm going nowhere, a place without cell phones, where there's no tv reception and no e-mails for three days. they say, no way. how do you get there? i want the directions. and this book "the art of stillness" is written in response to the fact that the typical person is geting 200 e-mails a day, 16 phone calls and we're so out of breath we can't do justice to any of them, and i think most of us are the happiest when we are completely concentrating on something, when we are lost in a conversation for five hours and a movie or a

beautiful landscape, but when we're texting here and then answering a call there and then taking care of an e-mail and then getting in a car, most of us are not fulfilled and never really asked to get on and now we don't know how to get off and if we're dizzy now we'll be dizzier next year because our devices are speeding up and getting more and more ubiquitous, i love technology and has made our lives breather and more interesting but i don't always trust myself with technology and i feel like it's like having a very strong drug at your dissupposal. if you do it's really hard to get away from it. you probably notice there are 400 online rescue accounts for kids addicted to the internet, something call e-mail apnea. a condition that is the

psychological fear of being outside of mobile phone contact. so tease devices are wonderful but we century rein denned to them -- surrendered to them so quickly, the world health organization is calling technology -- almost reaching a stage where we can't function anymore and racing at top speed. we all know if you're busy, it's really hard to be kind or happy or wise, and that's really where our deepest fulfillment comes. so kindness, happiness and wisdom come from untethering ourselves from busyness, and opening yourselves up to something more spacious. in my book i tried to give a few examples and models of probably what everybody knows and is feeling already, which is that we're getting more and more movement in our life, and to cope with all the movement, we need a little bit of stillness, just a few drops of stepness