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future administrations, including on important convention capabilities. then how do we want to leave this issue at least leave the next administration with a sense of how president obama believes we should move forward. so, we will be looking at the modernization plan of courses in the budget, but if we determine we want to be more specific of course, you will hear from us. i think i would just indicate that again, this and other issues are not close to us. i think someone said you're almost done and you for the last on the president on this, not just this but a number of areas we're going to want to continue to explore. there's a lot to be done in the next seven months and that can both advance the agenda of the president in prague and also
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indicate what we believe our priority should be going forward. >> thank you. >> reporters question whether we go in the middle with rachel. >> hello my question has to do with secondary sanctions on north korea. recognizing that china would sign off on the secret accounts this year but also recognizing the sanctions put into law earlier by obama. how long will the administration wait to designate chinese banks that are going to be supporting china recognizing that if it does designate as a money laundering? >> first of all, china has supported through the un security council resolution much were robust international
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statute regime that has precipitously been existed. and as it relates to shipments and out of north korea and as it relates to other efforts taken by the international community, we believe it would have a positive impact. at the same time with respect to the legislation that the president signs, it is always all preference and we believe the iran case proves this to be effective that we work in cooperation with other countries so that they are helping to enforce sanctions. so that that they iran instance we did not need to impose as many secondary sanctions because we got other nations banks and others to work with us. so i think we do. now where we're having a dialogue with china about sanctions and limitations, that are currently in the strategic dialogue, i'm
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sure it's been been addressed among other topics. we are going to be trying to do in the near term his work with china so that they are cooperative and enforcing sanctions, ultimately we believe that will be most effective. there remains a preference in the first will be able to evaluate going forward the strength of china's limitations. >> okay. we'll take a a couple more questions from reporters here. >> please identify yourself. >> a stephanie coke with nuclear intelligence weekly. i have a question with prime minister modi in town this week and the efforts with the white house to secure nuclear supplier group for membership. the people people i've spoken to in the nsg are opposed to that and are worried that for membership will
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allow india to get access to more advanced processing and enrichment technology to benefit their nuclear weapons program. it also obviously ratchets up pressure by pakistan and israel who both of who we have sent letters requesting some kind of membership status. i have wondered if you can tell us how that effort by the white house to secure more support is going. how do you connect that to your support for strong nonproliferation treaty given that there is a precedent now for membership. it's not a de facto requirement friend sg but not a hard and fast, but still there is a question of npt membership. >> it's a good question. what i would say as having gone down the path of the civil
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nuclear agreement with korea and having invested a significant amount of time in building up our cooperation with india as it relates to nuclear security and again their civil nuclear capacity, we are at the point where we believe that engaging india and trying to bring them into international processes will be more effective. it will be more effective in promoting their security protocols, and investing in the type of a peaceful nuclear cooperation that does exist globally and frankly, it takes place against continued conversations that we've had within the about their approach to nuclear weapons. and of course that the support that we have isaacs prestwood diplomatic efforts between india and pakistan. the bottom-line presses we
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believe it through engagement with india and through engagement with groups like the nsg, we are in a better position to support india is a good citizen on these issues going forward. course will take seriously the concerns of other nations but again for us it is part of our broader contexts where we decided to take this approach with india and we have seen it they are some fruits, in particular with issues related to nuclear security. again, we understand the concerns but in many ways we're dealing with a challenge that was far advanced by the time we took office and we decided to sustain the previous administration's decision to pursue that civil nuclear
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cooperation broadly. and we tried to nestle it into this body and protocols but again, india is is not in a stronger position to be in a better position. >> is is that part of the 1000 word e-mails that i think a number of us have discussed this morning that we think there is another way to pursue mainstream india and pakistan by raising standards, but let's continue with other questions we will go to the right side and then go to the for questions. >> i'm with exchange monitor publications. for the latest nickel weapons stockpile numbers inside the pentagon seem to suggest the slowing down or's dock pile reductions the obama administration.
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could you speak a little bit about how that fits into the president's legacy as stated in the speech. >> essentially we had the reductions of deployed weapons and then the president given the context of the previous review conference at that time authorize 20% retirement of nondeployed stockpile. so we stopped it to try to set markers that is allowing us to reduce both the deployed stockpile in the nondeployed stockpile. the lower you get obviously the more complex reductions get in that is partially why it was our determination that we would want to pursue more ambitious reductions through negotiated agreement through russia, ultimately with other nuclear states. i think on this issue as i have
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mentioned the nondeployed weapons and hedge we sought to be more transparent about that. that is something we will continue to look at. that's why the president decided to sit down a marker in that area. but the fact of the matter is, again the lower the stockpile number gets, the more you feel compelled to ensure that you're working through arms control that can hopefully bring in russia, even as we can make our decisions particularly about the numbers we feel are required deployed but also nondeployed. >> let's take the question by the camera and make our way to the microphone.
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>> your first may be-12 minutes of your speech was focused on the iran deal and president obama's achievement in that respect. despite that iraq continues to use their program capable of carrying nuclear warheads. last week to the democrats and senators proposed a new annexation of the iran sanction act into congress. but what did the state department coordinate during the recent weeks it was insisting that these might be authentic iranian following the nuclear
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deals. the sanction act only kicks in if iran gets out of the deal or violates it. why is the white house adamant, reluctant? >> so let me address this in a number of elements of the question. number one, we were very clear in the efficacy for the implementation of the iran deal and this is focused on the nuclear program. i think we very straightforward that we fully expected that iran would continue to engage in other activities that we found deeply troubling like its ballistic missile program, it support for terrorism, destabilizing, destabilizing activities in the region, human rights violations.
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weekly, the case we made his it's all the more imperative to have a nuclear agreement with a country like that because you would not want to country that has a ballistic missile program and destabilizes its region to have access to a nuclear weapon. so the first point here is when you hear people say that the iran deal has not stopped his other behavior, we set over, and over, and over again that the iran deal was focused on the nuclear program and that we would have other means of dealing with the other elements of iranian behavior. that leads me to the second point which is, we had the ability, and i really have significant sanctions that we pursue on a reference ballistic missile programs and for some of his other activities in the region. we have even since the implementation of the nuclear deal designated additional's individuals and entities under the sanctions. so we are entirely comfortable and clear about the fact that we
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may have to pursue additional sanctions if iran continues to violate basic international norms as it relates to their ballistic missile program as it relates to terrorism. with the legislation, i think the main point that we have made to congress is that we have to have the ability to work with them. to make sure that legislation in this space does not, in any any way, conflict with our jcpoa commitments. so we are to work with congress as necessary to continue to for sanctions and these other areas. the question is if people are designing new legislation, doesn't interfere with the commitments that we have to fulfill the jcpoa? now one thing i would say here is, one of the warnings during the debate is that they were going to get $150 billion. we've had the opposite challenge
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which is they have had. great difficulty in accessing sanctions at precisely because we have so many other sanctions related to iran that banks are uncomfortable doing business. there's not been a problem of this windfall coming to the iranians. on the extension in the last point, that is expiring at the end of this year. what we have said to congresses, will continue to have a discussion with him about various ideas that they have related to iran sanctions, that we don't think it has to happen now, we have time given the fact that the legislation expires at the end of the year. and whatever we work with congress on it is going to have to be able to protect the ability of the united states to meet its commitments under the jcpoa, even as it is going to sustain the very strong sanctions authorities that we have and are using in these other areas. >> will take a question from the
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gentleman in the yellow. >> i wanted to ask about one component of the nuclear modernization plan, the long-range cruise missile. as president obama was traveling to hear shema, the senator gave the speech. choice words about that and he didn't just say, he said it was dangerous. it was the component modernization most likely to lead to catastrophic nuclear escalation. so how do you respond to that criticism and more broadly, why are you going forward with that program? >> another interesting e-mail i got from darrell. again, i am not going to get into the individual capabilities we have looked at this in a number of ways.
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we have tried to determine what capabilities do we have to maintain both in terms of stockpile and delivery systems so that we can maintain the credible deterrent that can sustain itself for the coming decades as -- at the same time we have tried to look at ways in which we can change our own way of doing business to make it certainly less likely that there is an inadvertent launch. so the efforts we took carefully looking at the launch under attack contingency plan is meant to try to create additional space in this area. we look at other ways in which we are reducing the risk of inadvertent use of a delivery
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system. . . . . >>
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>>. >> we are running short on time and want to get a representative questions from the audience trying to sort through the most popular issues that have not been addressed. said think we'll be close to the end of the time. so sort of related to the questions we have heard you said that president obama has watched and continuously planning in a war plan? can you provide an example of how this has been done? it maybe that is something where interested in hearing what that is about.
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>> the second question in a different area we heard your earlier today -- earlier today and we argued the policies such as they are, are not effective evening from the current course as you would get much more dangerous north korea to the next president's term. so what is obama considering? to read engaged some way or other and to hand off to the next administration with a better set of tools to deal with this.
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and for all of this to ponder and it depends on a lot of different factors then of your leadership but public awareness and congressional leadership and we have seen the last four or five years the debate the departure from the senate of the heavy rates -- of the policy or people that we look to and on the democratic side. and over the past seven years how important is at and how important is that going forward for the next president to achieve progress? >> on the first one, we've made an effort to with our
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guidance to be more transparent to share our thinking and our objectives with contingencies and this is something ultimately of the basic principle so there is the degree of decisions based that hedges against the risk but what ways can we be more transparent? en the second one with the dprk, i think what we're doing is we're concerned of
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what has been escalated over recent months and years. to have the nuclear capability that implicates our security in dangerous ways. then serving in northeast asia. but then ten steps against that threat try to increase pressure and north korea but with diplomacy we're certainly open to pursuing those efforts with north korea with one that in coordination with our allies
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and we would need to be assured that there is some recognition that indicates what we're talking about that means you don't expect the nuclear program as much as we would like but we have to try to find a way to these issues coming to the table and opposed by north korea. so we will be open to that. to come and talk to our partners and we have not had
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a signal of seriousness. it is interesting how much attention iran gets. and for the next administration. >> in terms of the changing dynamics but you don't know the exact opening so what is interesting in retrospect and then second-guessing and then to take that opening in that reduction because of
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some russian cooperation and with that diplomacy and now russia looks very different. and those of the election but i say that and i don't know if you had some progress with the shift of mindset it in russia. one of the biggest lessing's
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and with that detail that is a mind-set and i totally see the point and hamilton to see just how essentials congressional leadership and early in the administration
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and it makes it all the more imperative that there are efforts made to ensure as people are in the house or in the senate there is a dedicated effort to raise the profile so that people are developing that degree of expertise so that doesn't just show up to seven like you to support this is the deep in the standing with these issues that were so evident with the people that you mentioned there is always a reason and to
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sustain a capability and in both parties to raise the awareness at that level to ensure that it doesn't just happen to a constantly the people dug down and got smart on the issues but that is because people have to focus to have a baseline of understanding. so that is the constant and consistent and not to show a bank complained about something.
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>> we have taken this hour with your willingness to come by and project yourself with your talk about reflecting on the agenda and what has been accomplished with the work that is left to be done and we will carry a with those issues we have been discussing here today. [applause] >> we will have about seven minutes before the next panel begins. [inaudible conversations] inqui
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leader the schedule for the week
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to come. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. hoyer: thank you, mr. speaker m i'm pleased to yield to my friend, mr. mccarthy, the majority leader for the information regarding the schedule. mr. mccarthy: -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mccarthy: i thank the gentleman is yield -- for yielding and ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. mccarthy: on monday, the house will meet at noon for morning hour and 2:00 p.m. for legislative business. votes will be postponed until 6:30. on tuesday and wednesday, the house will neat at 10:00 a.m. for morning hour and noon for legislative business. on thursday, the house will meet at 9:00 a.m. for legislative business. members are advised that later votes than normal are possible on thursday and to keep their travel plans flexible. no votes are expected in the house on friday. mr. speaker, the house will consider a number of suspensions next week, a complete list of which will be announced by close
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of business today. mr. speaker, the house will consider h.r. 5053, preventing the i.r.s. abuse and protecting free speech act, sponsored by representative roskam this commonsense bill prohibits the i.r.s. from collecting toe nor information which has been used by the i.r.s. to improperly target tax exempt organizations. finally, mr. speaker, the house will consider h.r. 5293, the f.y. 2017 defense appropriation bill, sponsored by representative rodney frelinghuysen. we expect a large number of amendments on this bill so members are reminded to keep their travel schedules flexible at the end of next week. i thank the gentleman and yield back. mr. hoyer: mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for that information. this week or today we considered a third appropriation bill. it was a structured rule, which is not uncommon on both sides
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of the aisle, to have a structured rule. but next week the gentleman has announced the defense appropriation bill. i'm wondering whether or not that will be an open rule so that amendments will be able to be offered by members without constraint of being limited? i yield to my friend. mr. mccarthy: i thank the gentleman for yielding. to answer the gentleman's question, yes, that will come under a structured rule so members will be able to offer amendments. but before the rules committee. and have the debate on the floor. for the passage of the bill. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman. does the gentleman mean by ructured rule that it will simply require amendments to be filed as of a certain time but there will be no restriction on amendments that will be in order? i yield to my friend. mr. mccarthy: i thank the gentleman for yielding. structured rule, exactly the same as we've done structured rules always before.
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amendments will be presented to the rules committee, be debated and then brought to the floor for a vote on the bill. mr. hoyer: just to -- thank you very much. but to further clarify, my understanding therefore is a -- the leader expects the rules committee to choose which amendments will be made in order on the bill, is that accurate think? yield to my friend. mr. mccarthy: i thank the gentleman for yielding. yes, it will be a very fair, wide-open process, just in the rules committee, looking at which bills. those that have not been able to be offered already in committee, where these bills have gone through subcommittee, full committee, with amendments being offered, and then it will be brought to the floor, so we can get the work done and move a bill forward. mr. hoyer: i understand what the gentleman is saying. and it appears to me that it is an abandonment of the speaker's and others' representations that when appropriation bills are brought to the floor
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they'll be brought to the floor with an open rule, or a rule that will allow any and all amendments that seek to be offered by members on both sides of the aisle to be offered. from the gentleman's explanation, i believe that is not the case and a deviation from the announced policy at the beginning of the year, it seems to me, mr. leader, madam speaker, that it's a pragmatic udgment that some amendments are making it difficult on your side of the aisle. someone who's been here for some period of time, that's been my experience, when we were in the majority, that your side under open rules offered a lot of very difficult amendments that we had to confront. the maloney amendment obviously was a difficult amendment for you to confront on your side and led to the defeat of apparently one of the -- your
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bills, the energy and water bill, which failed on this floor. but would i not be correct in saying this is a policy that's now being pursued that is different from that which was represented at the beginning of the year where the floor would be open to any and all amendments and would be considered by the house on their merits? i yield to my friend. mr. mccarthy: i thank the gentleman for yielding. the gentleman knows, he had sat in this position that i have today as majority leader in the past, the gentleman knows of his history of what he brought bills to the floor and in which manner in which they did. but if i could be frank with my friend, i'm a little disappointed. this is not a place to play politics. this is not about one amendment. we have a process for amendments for members that are serious about making a
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passionate, making an argument for a bill, not to kill a bill, and not to have an amendment pass and an entire side of the aisle then vote against it. what we are bringing forth is a process that the american people want to see. that they want to see ideas get brought, debated, and moved forward. if you look at the appropriation process in the senate, they have amendments that go through. if the gentleman wants to go back and recite history of the number of bills that were open here and under his leadership, i'm more than welcome to do that. but we should be honest with one another. if you want to offer an amendment and you want to debate the bill and you want to make the bill, in your view, better, i would suspect that if you win an amendment, you'd vote for the bill.
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you have a long history here. that's really probably the history that you remember as well. i want to see the work get done. so any ideas that get brought forth in committee, they are debated. they are offered and they are voted on. ideas will get brought forth further as the bill comes brought an amendment to the floor, so be it. but we're not going to sit back with people who want to play politics on the outside to play politics on the inside. i just expect more. i yield back. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for his comments. of course, 130 of his members voted against that bill. 130 of his members rejected that bill. i'm hard pressed to think that the majority leader believes that our no votes were political and his no votes were
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principled. that defies logic from my standpoint. the fact of the matter is that bill lost because your members didn't support it. you have 247 members, mr. majority leader, and i do remember being majority leader. and very frankly, i remember getting 218 democrats for almost every bill we brought to the floor. and so we passed them with our votes. and if 130 of your members had not voted against your own bill, it would have passed. and there should be no, madam peaker, misrepresentation or misinformation about how seriously mr. maloney cared about his amendment. none whatsoever. and in point of fact, it enjoyed ultimately the majority of support on this floor. but i will tell the gentleman, i've been here for some time, he's correct on that, and i do offer amendments from time to time to improve bills that even
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as improved i don't like. so the final analysis, although i've improved them and been successful in adopting amendments, i still do not think the bills are appropriate to pass and go into law. this conversation started with the fact that we need to be able to offer ideas. very frankly, i understand the gentleman's position, but today we just voted on two bills that aren't going anywhere, sense of congress, that you're not going to bring to the floor. they have no chance of passage. what did you want to do? you wanted to play politics. i don't mean you personally, and, madam speaker, but it was a political effort solely to bring two bills to the floor, some sense of congress, both of which i voted against, because i thought they were playing politics, and so the accusation somehow that we are playing politics because we offer amendments that we care deeply
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about, that we want to see no discrimination allowed in our bills, and that we want to defeat those constraints on an executive order says to people who do business with the federal government, you can't discriminate against people, i will tell my friend, yes, we're going to continue to try to do that. of course on this last bill, we were not allowed to do that. we were shut down. and shut up. and precluded to vote on that particular piece of legislation. so when i tell my friend that this session started with a pledge for open rules on appropriation bills, i understand the gentleman's problem. we had structured rules when we were in charge as well. we had not made any great representation about open rules.
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therefore we too wanted to get the business of the house done and, yes, i remember well 2007, when we were confronted with filibuster by amendment. and at some point in time, after 10 bills had been very difficult to pass, on the last two bills we did have a structured rule. but i tell my friend that i hope that he will accord to mr. maloney or others the sincerity of their objectives and notwithstanding the fact that their amendment is adopted and articulate what is i think is proper policy for our country, that is not to discriminate, everybody in our country apparently doesn't believe that, but mr. maloney does, and i want to make it very clear that he was very sincere in that amendment. those of us who voted for it were very sincere in that amendment. it was not politics. it was values. i want to congratulate the majority leader, moving on, on
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his work on puerto rico. that was a difficult issue for us both. difficult issue for our caucuses. difficult issue for the executive department. we worked together, we got a bill done that certainly was not our favorite. it included a lot of stuff in there that we didn't like. but i will tell you, we didn't play politics on that. we only lost 24 slow thes. -- votes. on a bill that was largely constructed by your side of the aisle in terms of some of the issues unrelated per se to restructuring of the debt, which was the intent of the bill. i want you to know, mr. leader, you and i have a good relationship, i have great respect for you, we're going to intend to try to work together on issues like that that are difficult but necessary for the american people. toward that end, can the gentleman tell me what the tatus of the zika issue is
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with reference to getting resources as quickly as possible to confront this challenge to our country's health? i yield to my friend. mr. mccarthy: thank you for yielding. i do want to thank the gentleman for his work on the puerto rico crisis. this is something that we worked together on very early, from all sides, making sure that we protected the taxpayers from a bailout and i think we met all criteria for helping puerto rico move forward and protecting the taxpayers. the gentleman is correct on zika. we want to make sure funding is there, as the gentleman knows, there is currently funding and as the gentleman knows we have passed a bill on zika and we have named our conferees. it's my understanding that the senate is just now naming the conferees. i am very hopeful that we can get that conference done very quickly and brought back to the floor. as of now, i would -- i had met with the director of c.d.c. just on our -- when we
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debattered on the district work period. there's -- departed on the district work period. there's enough resources currently but we need to get our work done as rapidly as possible. i yield back. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for his comments. obviously this is an emergency confronting our country. dr. frieden of c.d.c., a doctor of the n.i.h. and so many others have raised this as a critically important issue for us to confront and confront now. so that i would join the majority leader in whatever efforts are necessary to accelerate this process and give to the administration and our health officials the resources they need to protect the american people. madam speaker, in closing, and i will certainly yield to the majority leader, i rise to say that we have lost a great american, perhaps one of the most famous americans in the world.
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in muhammad ali. muhammad ali was for a portion of his life reviled for the decisions he took. but through his life he reflected a commitment to could e that all of us well follow. an example of, even in the light of extraordinary things from his fellow citizens said, this is what i believe, this is where i stand, and i am prepared to take the consequences. many of us believe he was probably the greatest fighter that ever lived. and as he fought so successfully in the ring, he fought successfully for his principles and his convictions. and i know that the american people and the house of representatives would reflect the respect and affection for a great athlete, a great human
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being, and a great american. if my friend wanted to make a comment, i will yield to him. mr. mccarthy: i thank the gentleman for yielding and i thank him for recognizing the life of muhammad ali. . he touched those who met him and those who did not. and there are so many stories out there what he was able to do and stand up for what believed. i think so many times when you look at his life from where he rows to and where he stayed rooted in, his belief in this country, his belief and the courage to fight for what he believed in. there was a quote he made, i just read it today, it was put up by forbes as the quote of the week. but he once said, he who is not courageous to take risks will not accomplish anything in life. he took risks and had the
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courage to stand up. and one great foundation of this country provides the individuals the right to do that, to challenge others and to live a life that is very full. and he lived his life to the fullest and reached many and to the athletic world, he reached the height and to reaching others, he did the same in his personal life as
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obama administration efforts concerning global nuclear security.
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muhammad ali has been buried encapsulated hill cemetery in lewisville, kentucky. a public memorial service was held and speakers included former president billy clinton, billy crystal, brian gumbal and members of the family. this is just over three hours. >> in the name of god, most compassionate, more merciful, we request everyone rise at the current time. stand-up to greet the ali family.
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[silence] >> all praise is due to the lord of all the worlds. please be seated, ladies and gentlemen. in accordance with muslim tradition and consistent with the wishes of muhammad ali may god have mercy on him. we begin this program with a brief recitation from the koran, the scripture of the muslim, a
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young emom from a mid-town mosque in memphis tennessee for spear heading a neighborhood renewal effort in one of the most blighted areas in memphis. it is centered around a mosque and one of the few graduates of the university will share a few verses from the koran. >> [applause] >> laj, hamsa abdullah malik. -- ladies and gentlemen. [speaking in native tongue]
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[singing in native tongue] >> now with the translations of those verses we would like to bring to stage a second generation daughter of syrian
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immigrants. she is an excellent student. in her spare time in recent years, she raises money to provide medical supplies, surgical instruments and other forms of medical assistance for syrian refuges fleeing from the horror of the current conflict and we pray almighty god brings to a secession soon. [applause] >> in the name of god, the most gracious, the most merciful, truly those who say our lord is
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god and our upright, the angels will descend upon them saying have neither fear nor sadness, but rather rejoice in this paradise. we are our allies in this lower life and after, where you will have your hearts' desires and you will have whatever you ask for from the one, most for giving, most merciful. who is more beautiful in speech than the one that invites to god and does righteous work saying truly i am submitted to god for good and evil are not equal, repel ugliness with beauty and behold the one between you whom
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there was imninty is transformed into a warm friend. but no one arrives at the station without great patience. chapter 41 verses 31-35. thank you. >> i forgot to mention she is a proud resident of this city. god, bless this day of ours, you are our protector, what an excellent protector, what an excellent helper. honorable president, bill william jay clinton, distinguished guest, viewing
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audience, on behalf of the ali family and the city of lewisville, kentucky, the home of the people's champ. [applause] [applause] >> ali! ali! ali! [crowd chanting ali] >> we are dealing with time here, folks. lewisville, kentucky admirable led by greg fischer. give it up for the mayor. [applause] >> i would like to welcome you
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to this memorial service for the people's champ, muhammad ali. at this time, we would like to introduce our first speaker. dr. reverend kevin bellevue cosby. [applause] >> reverend has served as the senior pastor of saint steven church in lewisville, kentucky greatly through a dynamic bible teaching. his congregation has grown. he combines passion, wit and
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intellectual as the foundation of the ministry that transformed the lives of thousands of individuals. reverend? [applause] >> i looked in the dictionary for the the word fidelity. it has two words. in 1967 nine months prior to this assassination, dr. martin luther king junior was interviewed by merve griffin.
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dr. king asked griffin a relevant question. he said dr. king, what has been the greatest effect and impact that the civil rights struggle has had on the negro? dr. king paused and said besides the dismantling of barriers that prohibited the negro from free access, the greatest and most profound affect that the civil rights struggle had was it infused in the negro something that the negro needed all along and that was a sense of somebodyness. you will never be able to appreciate what dr. king meant when he said the negro needed a sense of some bodiness until you
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understand the 350 years of nobodyness that was infused in the psyche of people of color. every sacred document in our history, every hallowed institution conspired to convince when god made the african he created malfese n. all of the documents said to the negro, you are nobody. the constitution said we were three fifths of a person. decisions from the supreme court, like the dread scott case, said to the negro that you had no rights that whites were
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bound to respect. and even francis scott key in the writing of the star-spangled banner we sing verse one but in verse three they celebrate slavery by saying no refuge can sage the harling enslave from the sor row of night on the death of the grave. every institution from religion to entertainment, from ammos and andy, to jane and tarzan, infused in the psyche of the negro that he was inferior. but something happen would the world war ii generations. jessy jackson picked up a bat and hit a ball.
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joe lewis knocks out max smelling in a 124 seconds. jessy lewis runs speeds and wins four gold medals. rosa parks sit down on a bus in montgomery of 1955 and a young boston university stands up and takes the complex ideas of negro and dips it in chocolate so big mommy can understand. and then from lewisville -- [applause] emerged the silver tongue boy who took the essence
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of somebodyness to unheard of heights. before james brown said i am black and i am proud, muhammad ali said i am black and i am pretty. black and pretty was an oxymoron. black doesn't say pretty. the first black millionaire in this country was not oprah but it was madam cj walker who made products in order to help black people escape their africanity. but muhammad ali said i am proud. i am pretty. i am glad of who i am. and when he said that, that
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infused in africans a sense of somebody-ness. taking muhammad ali in the time he lives is called historic prese presentism. it is to talk about george washington and not talk about the american revolution. it is to take about lincoln and not talk about the civil war. it is to talk about roosevelt and not talk about the depression and world war ii. our brother is a product of a different time and he dared to love black people at a time when black people had a hard time loving themselves. [applause] >> he dared to affirm the beauty of blackness. he dared to affirm the power and
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capacity of african-americans. he dared to love america's most unloved race. he loved us all and we loved him becau we knew he loved us all. whether you live in the suburbs or the slums, whether you lived on the avenue or whether you lived in an alley, whether you came from the pent house or whether you lived in the project, whether you came from moore house or whether you had no house, whether you were hot yellow or boot black, muhammad ali loved you. our city is known for two things. it is known for muhammad ali and it is known for the kentucky derby. we hope you will come back and
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visit our city the first saturday in may. we hope you will place a bet on one of the horses but if you do is know the rules. the horses start out in the starting gate and then the signal is given and they will run in the mud for two minutes. and the winner will then be led to the winner circle where a wreath of roses is placed around the horse's neck. we want you to make a bet but please know the rules. you cannot bet for the horse once it is in the winner circle. you have to bet were the horse while it is still in the mud. [applause] >> there are a lot of people who have bet and will bet on muhammad ali when he was in the winner circle. but the mass bet on him while he
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was still in the mud. [applause] karim abdul-jabbar stood with him when he was in the mud. but please don't mishear me. i am not saying that muhammad ali is the property of black people. he is the property of all peo e people. why he is the property of all people, let us never forget he is the product of black people in their struggle to be free.
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i went looking for jesus on a poor west end street thinking i would find them as he walked around with men and women with stumbling feet. people who had their heads bowed low because they were broke and had nowhere to go. then i went looking for jesus way in the sky thinking he would wear a robe that would dazzle my eyes when suddenly jesus came walking by with stumbling feet because he had been hanging with the poor on a west end street. the muhammad ali of my childhood had a shuffle. but as he grew older he walked with shuffling feet and i would submit he walked with shuffling
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feet not because of parkinson's disease but he walked with shuffleling feet because he hung out the foe folks in west lewisville who had shuffled feet. peace and god bless you. [applause] ... don't give a teenager a telephone and don't give a preachary microphone. [laughter] we like to bring senator orrin
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hatch to the stage. now in his seventh term as one of utah's senators. the most senior republican in the senate. author of some of the most far-reaching legislation in recent decades. senator hatch is a seasoned and distinguished public servant. we are deeply honored by his presence today. [applause] >> reverend, that was real good. it's hard for this poor old senator to have to fall that is all i can say. well, the first fight of sonny liston, muhammad ali stood behalf crowded pack of reporters and told the world unapologetically who he was.
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i'm the greatest. that's what he said. but this simple proclamation wrote his own and -- wrote his own title in the textbooks. he was not muhammad ali the prize fighter. or even the world champion. he was muhammad ali the greatest. ali's daughters dismissed this declaration as mere bragging but ali wasn't talking trash. he was speaking truth. and he was in the world of boxing he truly was the greatest. with the cutthroat quickness of
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a street fighter and the simple grace of a ballerina. he moved with acing and punched with -- but that was to only see his athletic prowess was to see half the man help was an extraordinary fighter and a committed civil rights leader, an international diplomat, a forceful advocate of religious freedom. and an effective emissary of islam. he was something. he was caring as a father, a husband, a brother, and a friend. and indeed, it is as a personal friend i witnessed ali's greatness for myself. i first met muhammad ali 28 years ago, almost to this day.
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i was in my senate office and an assistant called and said you have a visitor. i was really surprised it was none other than the champion himself. friendship we developed i think was puzzling to many people, especially to those who saw only our differences. i might say that where others saw difference, ali and i saw kinship. we were both dedicated to our families. and deeply devoted to our faiths. he took islam and i to the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints. we were both products of humble backgrounds and hard scrabble youth. ali grew up poor here in louisville and i grew up poor in pittsburgh. true, we were different in some
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ways but our differences fortified our friendship. they did not define it. i saw greatness in ali's ability to look beyond the horizon and our differences. to find common ground. this shared sensibility was the foundation of a rich and meaningful relationship that i will forever treasure. one of my fondest memories of our friendship was when ali joined me in the salt lake -- going to listen to the salt lake mormon tabernacle choir. i have to say it was the same choir, and ali loved music, and he enjoyed the choir's performance but seemed most excited to share his religious beliefs. he attracted big crowds that
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day, and as he always did, and eagerly gave everyone autographed pamphlets explaining his muslim beliefs. hundreds of mormons lined up to grab the pamphlets and took one for myself. i respected his deeply held convictions just as he respected mine. and our relationship was anchored by our different faiths. ali was open to goodness in all its varieties. another occasion i took ali to primary children's hospital in salt lake city. we visited with downtrodden children, who perhaps had never smiled a day in their lifetime. until ali showed up. ali held those kids and looked into their eyes, and they would grin from ear to ear. these are kids that never smiled. they were so pained.
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the nurses were astounded. never before had they seen someone who had connected so immediately and profoundly with these sick children. ali had a special way with kids, as we all know. he may have been a tough and tenacious man in the ring, but he was a compassionate and tender around those who he loved. for us he was a fighter. ali was also a peacemaker. a particular radio host in utah berated me constantly on at the air with as. week after week. one day the host asked if i would arrange for ali to meet full fer for a joint interview. ali agreed, knowing the appearance would help me build some good will and was also interested in meeting gene as well. an up forgettable experience,
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two champions, face-to-face, reminiscing about some of the best fights the world has ever seen. and i have to say, in the process, ali claimed that radio host -- he charmed the radio host so much on my behalf, gently transforming an unrepentant an tag nest to a respectful sparring partner. so dedicated was ali to our friendship that he joined me on the campaign trail during several election cycles. he came to utah year after year to raise funds for a charity ben fighting needy women, women in jeopardy, and families in our state. ali didn't look at life through the binary lens of republican, democrat. so common today. he saw worthy causes and shared
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humanity. and always willingness to put principles ahead of partisanship, he showed us all the path to greatness. and i'll never forget that greatness. nor will i ever forget him. there were many faces to ali's greatness. his abilities as a boxer, his charisma as a public figure, his benevolence as a father and a friend. all of these made ali great, but it was something else that made him the greatest. ali was the greatest because, as a debilitated yet unbroken champion in his later years, he put his greatness beyond yourselves, greatness beyond
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ali. hi pointed us to the greatness of god. [applause] >> god raised up ali to be the greatest fighter in the world of all-time. yet he allowed ali to wrestle with parkinson's disease, an inescapable reminder that we're all mortal, and that we are all dependent on god's grace. ali believed this himself. he once told me god gave me this condition to remind me always that i am human, and that only he is the greatest. [applause] ali was an unsurpassed symbol of our universal dependence on the divine. he was the greatest because he reminded us all who truly is the
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greatest. god, our creator. i'm eternally grateful for my special bond with this special man, and for my friendship with his beloved wife, lonnie, who i love dearly. one of the great women in this world. [applause] she was dedicated to her companion to the very end, and boy, i know it. i pray that ali may rest peacefully and in the presence of the greatest of all, god. i can bear testimony that i believe in god. i believe that we're here on earth for a reason. i believe that this earth life is a time for us to do what is right for god. for our men and women.
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i don't know that i have ever met anybody who did it any better than my friend, muhammad ali. god bless you. god bless the family. [applause] >> next we would like to welcome father monsignor father henry crying toll the stage. he has been the pastor of st. patrick's parish in erie, pennsylvania, ordained in 1970, and named a domestic prelate with the title monsignor by pope john paul ii in 1991. his wisdom, scholarship, and spiritual guidance is a source of solace and guidance for catholics and members of other faith communities far, far
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beyond his pennsylvania home. father cridn. [applause] >> let us pray. loving eternal god, as we gather today in prayer, we do so with an abiding sense of gratitude. our gratitude knows no bounds. as we thank you for the gift of this good and gentle man. muhammad ali opened our eyes to the evil of racism, to the absurdity of war. he showed us with incredible patience that a debilitating illness need never diminish joy and love in our lives. he chided our consciences, he awakened in us a deeper sense of the need to respect one another, to set aside racial differences.
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the legendary fighter of all-time, in reality, taught us to heal rather than to fight, to embrace rather than to turn away, to include rather exclude. while proclaiming himself to be the greatest, he showed us that his greatness lie in his love and concern for others. most particularly the marginalized, the suffering, the helpless, the hopeless. your gift of him has enriched us, made us better people, created a more gentle world. we dare not return him to you today without expressing our gratitude for the gift of him. amen. [applause] >> next we'll hear a few brief
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remarks from dr. timothy gionatti. he is a professor of islamic studies at the university of wart waterloo in ontario, canada. he is at home busying himself in the affairs of the muslim community as he is in the library and burrowing through books. a true public intellectual. he is the initialing and principle islamic adviser to the ali family. he has been instrumental in assuring that the last days of muhammad's life, his burial, his bathing, his shrouding and his burial today, his funeral and burial today, all were in accordance with the strictures of muslim law. so now i'd like to bring to you the person i affectionately
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call, brother, doctor imam timothy gionatti. [applause] >> in the name of god, who is the loving nurturer of the creation and the ever compassionate and ever merciful. i'd like to share a prayer today, and this is a prayer
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adapted from a traditional prayer of the prophet muhammad. may god's peace and blessings be upon him. before i do so i would just like to say to the family to lonnie to everyone here, that serving muhammad ali has been one of the greatest privileges of my life. oh, god, you who are the light of the heavens and the earth, grant our brother muhammad a light in his heart, a light in his earthly body now restored to the earth. a light in his grave. a light before him as he
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journeys on to you. a light in all that he has left behind in this world. a light to his right. and a light to his left. oh, god, increase him in light. grant him light. a light in his deeds in this world and a light in the hereafter. a light in the hearts of those whom he loved. and a light in the eyes of those who loved him. a light in those whom he knocked down. and a light in those whom he lifted up. light in his words which echo in our hearts.
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a light in the lives of all those whom he touched. a light in his children, and a light in their mothers. a light in his grandchildren. and a light in his tee -- devoted wife, lonnie. oh lord, increase your servant in light. and give him light. embrace him in light. and fill us all with light. oh, you, who are the light of the heavens and the earth. oh, you, who are the most merciful of all those who show mercy.
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[applause] next we'll hear a few words from rabbi michael lerner. rabbi lerner is not only the rabbi -- but also the editor of a magazine. as the magazine's name suggests, rabbi lerner has dedicated his life to working to heal and repair the world. rabbi lerner is never afraid of ruffling a few feathers, and we ask him to be nice today. rabbi lerner. [applause]
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>> we'll see about the feathers. master of compassion, god of compassion, send your blessings to muhammad ali and send your blessings to all who mourn for him and and the millions of people who mourn him all over the planets. i come here peeking as a representative of the american jews and to say that american jews played an important role of solidarity with the african-american struggles in this country, and that we today stand in solidarity with islamic communities, in this country and all around the world. [applause]
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we will not tolerate politicians or anyone else putting down muslims and blaming muslims for a few people. [cheers and applause] we know what it's like to be demeaned. what it's like too have a few people who act against the highest visions of our tradition, to then be identified as the value of the entire tradition. and one of the reasons that we in our magazine, a magazine of liberal and progressive jews and an enter faith magazine, have called upon the united states to stand up to the part's the israeli government of the pressing palestines is that we
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as jews understand that our commitment is to recognize that god has created everyone in god's image and that everyone is equally precious. and that means the palestinian people as well as all other people on the planet. [cheers and chance the people of louisville have a special relationship to muhammad ali, and i had a personal relationship in the '60s when both of us were indicted by the federal government and before our various stands against the war in vietnam. i want to say that although he was cheered on as the heavyweight champion of the world, you know the truth is that in all the honor to him, that heavyweight champions of the world come and go, and sports heroes come and go. there was something about muhammad ali that was different.
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at the key moment when he had that recognition, he used it to stand up to an immoral war and say, no, i won't go. [cheers and applause] and it's for that reason that tens of millions of americans, who don't particularly care about boxing, care about muhammad ali, because he was a person who was willing to risk a great honor that he got and a great fame that he got to stand up for the beliefs he had, to speak truth to power, when the rest of the people around him said, no, no, you're going to lose your championship and it was taken away from him for five yours but the stood up and was willing to take that kind of risk because of that kind of moral integrity. [applause]
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so i want to say, how too we honor muhammad ali? and the answer is, the way to honor muhammad ali is to be muhammad ali today. [cheers and applause] that means us, everyone here and everyone listening, it's up to us to continue that ability to speak truth to power. we must speak out. refuse to follow the path of conformity to the rules of the game in life. me must refuse to follow the path of conformity. tell the one percent who own 80% of the wealth of this country that it's time to share that wealth. tell the politicians who used violence worldwide and then preached nonviolence to the oppressed, it's time for them to end their drone warfare and every other form of warfare. to close our bases around the world. to bring the troops home. tell those who created mass
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incarceration it's time to create a guaranteed income for everyone in our society. tell judges to let out of prison the many african-americans swept up by racist police and imprisoned by racist judges. [cheers and applause] and many of them in prison today for offenses like possessing marijuana, that white people get away with all the time. [cheers and applause] tell our elected officials to imprison those who authorized torture and those who ran the big banks and investment companies that caused the economic collapse of 2008. tell the leaders of turkey to stop killing the kurds.
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tell israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu the way to get security is fours israel to stop the occupation of the west bank and help create a palestinian state. [applause] tell the next president of the united states, that she -- [applause] -- [cheers and applause] -- tell the next president of the united states that she should seek a constitutional amendment to make all national and state elections funds by congress and the state legislatures and all other sources of money be banned, including money from corporations, from individuals, all other money, make it all public funding. [cheers and applause]
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tell her that the way to achieve homeland security is not for us to try new ways of domination. the strategy of domination of the other to get security has been trade for the past ten thousand rears and it doesn't work. the way to get security iris for the united states to become known as the most generous and caring country in the world, not the most powerful. [cheers and applause] we can start with a global and domestic marshall plan to once and for all end global and domestic poverty, homeless has, unger, indiana quit education, inadequate health care. so i want to, as chair of the interfaith network of spiritual progressives -- spiritual
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progressives.org -- i want to afirearm our commitment to the well-being of all muslim is on this planet, as well as the people of all faiths and secular humanist as well. we wish to pay honor to muslims of the world as they continue today the fast of ramadan, and join with them in mourning the loss and celebrating the life of muhammad ali. a great fighter for justice and peace. peace be upon him. peace be upon the prophet muhammad. peace be upon all of humanity and peace on all of us. amen. [cheers and applause] >> ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali,
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ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali. >> time, time. time it not on our side. after that speech, i have to edit my initial remarks, honorable first man, william j. clinton. sidneyhill in 2002 was selected -- spiritual, principle spiritual leader of his people, true friend of the earth and beloved to all 0 -- who know him, a leader whose spirituality -- we're honored that he has come here today to share a few words and a few thoughts with us. chief hill. [applause]
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[speaking in native tongue] [speaking in native tongue]
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[speaking in native tongue] [speaking in native tongue] [applause] >> chairman, the united nations,
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the odondaga nation, the translation says that my relatives, it is my responsibility to pick up the words of the people of the long house. they wish you well. they want you to be peace of mind. now this great darkness that has happened to us, you must understand that you who have gathered us here, that his road is straight. peacefully, he will arrive at his land.
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it is the same as you call him, allah. these were the words. to the family, relatives, friends, of muhammad ali, mull mull was -- muhammad ali was a leader among men, and a champion of the people. he fought for the people of color, yet he was a man of peace and principle. a man of compassion. used his great gifts for the common good. spirit, has a clear path to the
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creator. sidney hill, spiritual leader of the onondaga, sixth generation iroquois, federation, and myself , turtle clan, and the council of chiefs, have journeyed here today to add our voice to the congregation of world leaders in honor of his work, and for the right and dignity of people of color and the common man. [applause] he was always in support of the indigenous people of this hemisphere, and our quest for
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our inherent land rights, self-determination, identity, and collective rights that include the natural world. we know what he was up against. because we have had 524 years of survival training ourselves. [cheers and applause] in 1978, the congressman from the state of washington put a bill into congress to terminate our treaties with the united states. and an indian nation walked from california to washington, dc in protest. muhammad ali marched into
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washington d.c. with us. [applause] he was a free, independent spirit. stood his ground with great courage and conviction. and he paid a price. the country did, too. we all did. values and principles will determine one's destiny. and the principles of a nation will do the same. poor people do not have many options. you fighters know what i'm talking about. he said the ring on his path to
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his destiny. he said he would be heavyweight champion of the world, and he was. three times. and this is the fourth time, right here, right now. [cheers and applause] >> on this journey in life, he lived, learned the hard way. brought a light into this world. my world. our world. and that light will shine a long, long time. [applause]

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