the united kingdom government and united kingdom parliament and it has to be done in that way. i'm what he said about racism, we should all reiterate statements lead reiterate statements we've made to e.u. nationals here. thank them for their contribution, say the rates are guaranteed in the e.u. would work even harder i am sure for all contenders in the conservative leadership campaign and make clear that they want to safeguard the rights of people who work here instead to hear from the european union for the future. finally, what he says about the fiscal rule, does fail like a stuck record. whatever the problem, whatever the issue come the dancers were fired, more spending, more taxes and more debt. you don't get investment in the stew of economics ability and you don't have economic stability if you don't have a plan dealing with your debts and deficits. this has been proved the world

over 30 favorite countries like venezuela. i would argue not to go down that route. >> sir william cash. thank you, mr. speaker. my right honorable friend quite rightly has referred to trading corporation with the european union. we've always argued from the side. when my friend give us some further talking about very precise blueprints and is also talking about alternative models. will he give us an absolute assurance that in charge models are blueprints will be exclusively based on the assumption that we are repealing the european act of 1972. >> they are leaving the european union, so surely that must be the case. i have not seen there are only four or five blueprints and britain has to follow any one of those. obviously we can try and amend blueprints and have norway

plastered our a- or a better trade deals and canada. i think what is important for colleagues in the house to understand is there are fundamental questions about whether you want full access with a single market and the price he might have to pay a return to that or whether you're satisfied to have lasted all access another compensating advantages. the more we can attach facts and figures, the more people can make an informed choice. thank you, mr. speaker. since the prime minister has returned from brussels for the first time in 40 years, member states and the rest of the e.u. are still there discussing the future of europe. by the prime minister not a brussels, scotland's first tourist in brussels. his comeback to protect scotland's interest in europe in reserve our places in europe. she's not what the president of the european commission and the

president of the european parliament. also meeting with one of the key european negotiators on the prime minister of belgium. the first minister is also spoken and will be meeting of diplomats from other e.u. member states. nicola sturgeon as soon as a mandate from the scottish parliament including the labor party, but both democrats and the scottish green party. an expert group has been established with nice protecting their place in europe including imminent diplomat, economist and constitutional experts. these include the european court of justice, former british ambassador to nato, former economic adviser to the european commission and the under secretary of the commonwealth office. all of us need to work through for ways to protect the relationship at the european

union. our place in the single market and the social employment and economic benefits that come from that. as the prime minister, mr. speaker, whether the prime minister race accounts of menace areas. did he even raised scotland at the council of ministers? did he say scott wants to stay in the european union? did he say that gibraltar wants to stay in the european union? did he say that london wants to protect its important position in europe? when are we going to get some leadership on this from the u.k. government or is he just going to stand by and watch england leave the european union and england declared independence from the rest of the united kingdom. >> yes, there is a meeting of the 27 other members of the european union this morning that that was always going to happen if we were going to make decision to leave because as we

must prepare a negotiating position, they want to prepare their spirit of the thing is that caught off on a very reasonable, fair and constructive basis. what i featured the right honorable gentleman, i'm glad the first minister of scotland is having these meetings. it's always useful to meet and talk with european counterparts. at the end of the day, the best way we secure the best possible access for scotland in the single market is for the united kingdom to negotiate as hard as they can as one and answer very specific questions about whether i talked about how that last night. yes, i did. talked about this parliament, scotland. the way we manage to last nights meeting, we took a bit of a cue from what happens in this house as i sat out what i call the result of the referendum was and why. i set out what i blueprints and united kingdom seems would be. i explain how different parts of the united kingdom voted adult 27 other members of.

at the end of the dinner, i answered all their questions than i do in this house when mr. speaker as fully as sacred. a little bit of british parliamentary practice was introduced and it's a good way of doing things. >> very good for the european council as well. .. such is the importance of removing people in a referendum that any future deal with the european partners that does include free movement with regard to millions of people who

have asked us to leave.t to lisy the united kingdom will want to listen carefully to all the constituent nations and the views of their ministers in parliament and setting out the negotiations went to carry on. as with this issue free men of people that will be the next prime minister and government and parliament to decide but i'm in no doubt that it's a difficult issue.things. it will be you have all been negotiating ability to change things and i think people will be of anything more difficult as to the single market, to secure change. i explain that was my reasoning of the referendum. it was this coming together, concerned about free movement combined with a sense of control and sovereignty and i was reset as the result are i think economic case for state and was very strong but if we want to make this work whether out or and we are to listen to people

and try and find a way through this. >> the prime minister, thank you for statement and wonder whether his discussion yesterday is he aware of the growing mood among heads of government across the european union, but given three quarters of the youngest people of britain voted to remain in europe, they should be permitted as far as possible to remain in europe. what can be done to make sure young people are allowed access to europe even over and above those of the rest of us? is the aware of the great concern amongst many communities depend upon european funding, most importantly i would say britain's farmers? many of whom are deeply concerned at the loss of payment at some point in the next three years. can't he make a guarantee today to british farmers will continue to have direct payment to keep them in business even after we leave the european union, if we

do? >> first of all on young people i think he's right that people want to those opportunities to work and to travel into study. one of the things the eu unit wanted to do is to work out the precise nature of the agreement like what access within have to them from the outside of the european union to on the issue of funding the european budget is set up between 2014-2020 including the amount of money for coastal farmers. what i can guarantee while we are in those payments continued and contracts will be honored but will be for a future government to become at the point of departure what payments we should continue to make to our farmers. if it was me, ma i'm keen to the living working countryside but will have to go through the options and future partners will have to decide your. >> does the prime minister agree unanimously taken the other four affairs committee that the construction of article 50 means that it is perfectly like he that there will be no agreement

on the other side of agreement regarding to envy from our partners and agreement of european parliament at the end of the two years? and that would mean though that we would still have access to the single market but we would be subject to world trade organization most favored nation drones. since that would mean that is no freedom of the people and we would not be paying into the budget, that would represent a perfectly sound by one foot united kingdom in the negotiation? and could the prime minister under this likely vote that other advances will be made on that before we arrived at the deeper coverage of free trade agreement and could the prime minister also say, just tells about the fate of the british president next year, we will be a full member? >> we will be hearing from them very, very regularly given the a lot of positioned ideals. prime minister.

>> i did look at the fort affairs select committee report, and while i'm not fully liberated and able to say what i think, i thought that the conclusions were -- [laughter] spent i was thinking of a place in london, but i won't go there. [laughter] so if we leave the eu and we have no deal in place, the tariffs offer things like 10% on cars, 12% on clothes, 36% on some very produce. this is not a good outcome for the united kingdom. we will look at the committee as we get issued up and running and look at the alternatives, but i really think that is not a good outcome for the united kingdom. [inaudible] >> thank you, mr. speaker.

that i thank the prime minister for service to this country, for his support for northern ireland and the northern island executor and very difficult time and also support the united kingdom in which him and his family very best wishes for the future. on the issue of the summit came the prime minister spell out again not least to reassure our european partners, our commitment to nato and our european partners who are now speaking somewhat ill of our decision last thursday, should be reminded that the uk is one of the main contributors to nato come as a firm supporter of european defense and security and that they should play a greater role in stepping up to contributing to europeans defense along with the americans and ourselves? so in all of this the wider perspective needs to be looked at, the u.s. imported single market at nato into fits of security of europe not least in particulaparticularly in regarde aggression of russia needs to be

borne in mind very, very strongly. >> i want to thank him for his kind remarks. he's right our commitment to nato continues. i think is also right that our spending being 2% of our national output is now responsible for a very large share of the overall european commitment and we should be encouraging others to increase their spending. we need to make sure that our membership of nato continues and we are not disadvantaged by being in one and out of the other. >> thank you, mr. speaker. my right honorable friend consistently made the case to british colleagues, indeed he made a last appeal to the country from birmingham which is much appreciated. we agreed that reciprocity between the uk and eu seattle give protecting hundreds and thousands of children which depend on the access, the principal market? >> i'm very grateful to what my right honorable friend says that anyone who thinks that isn't

something of a manufacturing renaissance taking place should go to that plant, that jaguar plan. seven or eight years ago there were 4000 people. you are now 14,000 people there and it's not just manufacture and assembly. it is designed. it's r&d, technology, that is taken literally of hundreds of apprentices ever you. is a magnificent car plant and is something we want to see more of. i think it's crucial for companies like that would keep the european market open and we keep companies like that investing in our country rather than investing in countries inside the european. that is an alternate for the other think that's the importance of maintaining every store access to the single market. >> there's a difference between future reform and existing residents. prime minister said earlier we could confirm residency or

employment rights for eu citizens who live here already until negotiations were under way. why is that the case? given this is being exploited by awful go home campaigns or repatriation campaigns. surely we should take a firm stand against this and pass some swift motion or legislation on immigration rule in this house before the summer recess to put an end to that speculation, provide reassurance to eu citizens who may have worked here for very many years. i urge you to consider this because i think this would be a wise decision. >> i listen very carefully to what she says. i try to answer the question asked i could and as i could and as legally as they can because of course as we go into this negotiation, if we come out of the negotiation of a for instance, it will be a future government but arguing for visa requirements or restrictions on numbers or quotas or work permit

or whatever for european nationals to come here, other countries might take action against british citizens trying to go and travel and work and live in other countries. i think even if that were to happen i think the answer i'm sure would be to guarantee the status of anybody here now, and we can say that while we are in the european union but i think it is for future prime minister to make that decision. >> really understand that negotiations will be protected on the economic issues. the last years have seen a big improvement in terms of our cooperation, automatic cooperation on security, both formal and informal meetings. i can't see that should be much of a way of negotiating process. surely to make sense to ensure that those formal and informal meetings continue both in terms of dealing with terrorism but

also dealing with economic ties spent i think he puts it through. there's a number of informal mechanisms that have grown up including the counterterrorism group of countries, mostly european union meeting very high level of our intelligence and secret services that are also quite a lot of now growing mechanisms within the eu such as the information system, the watch lists that are for people traveling between european union countries, some of which are bound very much in the eu institution and rules. people can rules. people are like that are not like that but the fact is that they exist and we had to work out of how to maintain access to as much of that as possible in terms of our national security. >> could the prime minister explained to the millions of people who voted to leave why in the next few months while we wait for a new prime minister, this country --

[inaudible] all the professional they've got start talking and negotiating and formally perhaps with candidate come with australia, with malaysia to all the other countries who would be desperately keen to sign up to agreementagreement s with why can we not do some of these things? and if we are still paying into the union, are we still not going to send it to having signed every field director that comes through the next two years? >> first of all on the point about canada, australia, of course we can start those conversations. i think it's difficult to start full on trade negotiations because entering a relationship between britain and the european union single market i think it's quite difficult to get into an intensive discussion but you can have some pathfinder discussions. on the issue of directives i think we have to be clear, we are members of this organization. we pay in and i continues until the day we leave and, therefore, think we have to obey the rules

and laws just as we would expect other european union countries not to suddenly not obey the rules with respect to us. i think that's important. i think in terms of decisions that need to be made right now, the are those that have to be made for legal and practical reasons. there may be some decisions that can be put off for a month or two in order to have a new government that can think of in the context of the renegotiation but i don't wish to do anything to break the law. >> whilst we are naturally focused on our future role in europe, our friends in the baltic nations are concerned about the immediate risks across the border. military and also arrive at space and my right honorable friend knows quite well. easy more satisfied that all the candidate is being done both within nato but also within the european union, to stand by our friends? >> i think my friend makes a good point to yes, i think enough is being done to we also

have a summit coming up where we will be part of the plane a big role in making sure that are visible military presences in baltic states, we would be point our part and americans will be playing theirs. i think it's important we keep up that reassurance because for them this is the absolute key thing that britain brings to their security. >> -- [inaudible] i did not see the prime minister there. so i kept telling the most popular -- [inaudible] anuniversities have benefited greatly. what can the prime minister and this government and the future government do to make sure that

funding or some funding is a secure? >> obviously i wasn't there because i was in brussels at the time. while i'm all for having your cake and eat it, i haven't been able to get how to be at two places at the same time. look, i think i said what i can say about funding for university. it's important to make it through the european union under the program while we are a member. we will support our universities. he and i have to be frank with each other that whales actually did not vote remain in the european union. in spite of the fact whales is a net beneficiary, welsh farming couple out of your. i think the welsh steel industry will do far better if we are in rather than a. i take my share of responsibility that we didn't win this campaign. we've all got to think about how we, even now that we're leaving make better arguments about how britain can remain as engaged as

possible. >> thank you, mr. speaker. can i think the prime minister not just for statement today but for all his work that he's in over the six years to protect uk. with respect to the meetings yesterday did my right honorable friend detect any regret on the part of other eu leaders, that they did not make more concessions when he sought to renegotiate our membership the? >> a very good question and one i'm kind of can-do edge of the sense and the european council was that they have really bent over backwards to give a country that already had a special status out of the euro, things that they found profoundly uncomfortable. many of those countries really do believe an ever closer political union. they hated the thing to bring right, you are out of this.

that really painted them but they did it. they take to dislike having to agree to cut welfare benefits for their own citizens because that is essential what they signed up to do. i believe and will always believe it was a good negotiation. it didn't solve all of britain's problems but it certainly address some of the biggest concerns the british people had. and i would say that i always want to know whether there's more that could've been done. that very strong sense i get into this issue awful access to the single market and reformed f free movement is very, very difficult to we achieved some reforms but i think the idea there is an enormous change to free movement, particularly perhaps from outside the eu, i think is a very, very tough call. people have to think through that very carefully before we get into negotiation.

>> give them the very grave damage that is already being done to our economy because of the uncertainty, would he call on all those in this house to lead this country to keep britain in the single market with full access? >> i think the honorable gentleman makes a very important point i think this is one of the key arguments. when i examined what i've always believed we are bette better ofn can't even though i wanted to see reform, to me it's always come down to this comes a single market exists where into it will go on existing even if we leave it and it has about the effect on our economic and business and political and national life. so i would certainly urge my colleagues to want to aim for the greatest possible access but obviously they will have to think about what the benefits and this benefits of that route are. >> does the prime minister accept that wind negotiating with the eu we should remember our many strengths? one of the strongest economies,

many competitive advantages would more than compensate for any tears which the wto will ensure cannot be punitive even if they were imposed while nations around the world are already including australia, including new zealand are already knocking at our door with regard to trade deals? >> no one is more impressed by the strength of the british economy than me. i think it is strong. it's got many advantages, many key industries that are admired the world over. and we have to recognize its going to be hard and difficult negotiations in many ways because we are negotiating with a block of 440 million people. but sort of we should make the most of our strength. i think this idea that terrorists can be compensated for in other ways is quite dangerous talk to if you think about the car company and others who invested a want to come and invest year and then pay tariffs. i think they are all on the

whole to be avoided. >> this campaign undoubtedly made -- [inaudible] the evolving exposed accordingly. but coming back to the issue which has been raised a number of occasions today, does not somewhat responsible for the result live with the eu leadership, the way in which they show no effect whatsoever? my part which have the honor to represent, the issue of the free movement. eu law, it will come down to 10 commandments. >> for once i have great sympathy with the honorable gentleman. that is why i chose to aim at this issue by saying people could come here and work but they couldn't get full accept our welfare system for four years. i think that address the concern his constituents have and my constituents have about there should be something for nothing. the point we have to understand is that european union countries

see the single market as consisting not only of the free movement of goods, people, services and capital, they see those bound together but they also see the single market include the payment of the country back into the eu to strengthen the weakest members of those that are recent recovered from communism. and, of course, one can try and negotiate amendments to these movements, and i did, but one has to think about that mindset as we go into negotiation. >> the prime minister will be aware that the voter to vote in the eu, many of our businesses rely on a single market. many of my constituents work in london in insurance, financial services and legal work. does he agree that part of this negotiation must be about the passport arrangement which has tabled the service interest to do so well?

i don't know if it's mentioned at the european council but i want to thank him for everything he has done. >> i think this is your passport in is going to loom very large for the reason financial services 7%, two-thirds of the jobs are outside london. we are the financial center for europe, 40% of financial services in europe. as we will be strong in the area whatever the outcome but it is untrue the passport does help britisbritish firms and it helpr countries firms come to bring the one of the reasons the swiss banks are here in such large measure is they don't get passporting rights as switching the it is one of the issues about what access the single market actually means. >> thank you very much, mr. speaker. coat i thank the prime minister for all his efforts? does he agree with me though to be fully recognize the very

difficult position northern ireland, we voted tuesday. we want to stay, yet we are hostage to mistakes of others who were misled by false promises. unlimited funding for images and farmers. does he recognize that northern ireland would need to open up .. thought, -- the good friday accord is undermined by much of legislation that hinges on the eu? >> obviously we'll look at the specific questions he raises closely. that's something official in northern ireland and westminster can start with straight away. but i want us to get all the benefits we've had from the common travel area and i think what we'll have is the closest possible cooperation with the government of the republic of ireland.

>>ight. >> he even went through some of the key elements in which i am sure relatives of mine but pointed out that the relations between the united kingdom have never been stronger. >> my constituency of manufacturing and technology businesses to make the role. of our local e economy. that the trade will continue to grow. >> this comes back to the action -- the issue of manufacturing and the single market.arge in

obviously nothing changes.east whil while the negotiations ande carries on. and now will set out. >> thank you to the prime minister for his strong condemnation of british community and others for the coh respect and commitment heat has showed over the last six years and for creating the most diverse administration from any prime minister in history. what was the discussion made borders be taken outy minister that they are taken out of france to the united france, at has

bin has absolutely nothing to do with the referendum. >> let me think canfor his comments of the diversity that has been a very important change that i hope to see continue but we did not discuss how those border control issues but my view is a treaty between britain and france but what i said in the referendum campaign that we need to redouble our efforts. >> the prime minister is concerned 100,000 migrants with the maximum number of people that they are willing to except at the moment especially outside londonmigrane counties.

>> would put it like that but we should have a sense of the net migration. >> i w have well over 100,000 and with european nationals coming here. you h measuring and above and thousa beyond is a good way to measure public service.tionals going back from 2008 the people from the u.k. it was of little bit negative and that is violent that the issue but it should be measured because is muchalways c bigger than the net figure at the end. >> it will have no mandates to negotiate for them to

have any serious plan to go from the early general election. >> we are a parliamentary democracy in reship draw up the negotiating mandate based on the work done on the next few weeks or months and obviously and that seems to be the right way forseems toi word.gh >> formal negotiations with the article is triggered but liddy was agreed that the first piece of leverage that there is absolutely no reason legal or moral to do that when we are ready in the next 24 months.

>> it is a british to skits -- decision is important to trie 50 recognize that we have concerns of what we are currently suffering that they said they thought that growth rate would be affected, by the materially affected by t so with the hard work at least it was allowed on goodn will in terms of how you perceive that. proceed. >> with the future position in the unity of the u. k itself under threats with the racist attack, does the prime minister not agree is

setting off the unit in the cabinet office that is not up to the task? after all the greatestfter all, change from the second world war? >> to be any issue other racist attacks but in terms of the steps that we need to take its what you can do before a new prime minister arrives but a lot of this is cold hard facts and the different cost of benefitss and there is the world of difference in the referendum campaign where they offer all sorts of things and now the real fact of what they look like ending his methods to put in place will help

with that. tha >> taking all the benefits of membership until we leave so there is the discussion of access to funding and then though long term conditions with significantly lose money and require some help. >> m&a contract entered into before they leave should ben honored in full for the regions of our country thisfo data is that we have to the eib will have to be determined with negotiation but that is a technical issue to see what the options are now to discuss

those. >> the constants of delivering on their promises that they have recently he wiped much of their website of light . [laughter] around a campaign promise and now i may disagree but does the prime minister agree with me that they will never forget those politicians who caused the new government there will be new hiding you have to be held accountable on your promises. >> but we all experience and share remake commitments and promises we are held account for them in the way they think is more direct and often more brutal than others. >> mr. speaker the renegotiations were clearly

difficult and will take some time that one area that we must have more action now is improving the job skills and infrastructure in our markets win many people have not seen the benefits of growth so if we work with local council leaders that that deal is struck across the country not just with great metropolitan cities. >> not only do they actually help address the issue of immigration but they also offer hope and health to the regional economy -- the help to economy's for those that will carry on their work.

>> the prime minister the north of ireland has voted to leave the european union but my constituency supported them in northern ireland that depends on free access to those services and that is essential to the market's. for 46% of and our economy depends on them. >> and at the least respected the fact into leave the european union. by would argue to make their voice heard of growing up v

with different blueprints. and that with the debates and in europe.nform this >> and to be on the polish ukraine and has committed the of british personnel with the event of any russian aggression the cease-fire and ukraine is on the brink.in ukraine i with the prime minister and to continue to press against russia with the russian aggression with the ukraine. >> and taking a leading role

to make sure we provide visible troops and they will all take on the state's. as people can see they takin didn't just see the troops that american troops or british troops.troops >> several weeks ago with the referendum last for a special commitment now with the comments and then to be w delivered of funding which

the prime minister of the future. of? >> ed has been a great success of though scotland i has a power house. clear. >> with the trade agreement and it was pretty irresponsible to suggest during the campaign that somehow that is translated to our membership. good and truck the european leaders said. then in light of the referendum.

>> prime minister? >> i can add to the point by i saying of a successful meeting yesterday the free trade deal is nigh it agreed and there are countries that get very nervous about.eu but what she says to the single market's there are trade-offs you have to consider that is certainly our ic the negotiation. >> to vote in a referendum to reject in one year later her in the europeanendum to acct traditions and with thehis couny

exaggerations of both parties and they now feelh cheated by the results. isn't right that we look again at the possibility of a second referendum to always be superior to first thoughts? [laughter] >> i am not planning a second referendum to get the closest possiblesu relationship. we can start the work and s start that debate right now. >> with the lame-duck attitude take control. there lots of things they could still do.d

to make it clear every e.u. said this in is now entitled to live here and stay here into the future that would stop some of that horrible campaigning.. it could step up the world commission that we bind together as much of the country as possible and first starters a consensus why doesn't he take control?n't? >> and then to set up that taker commission and that is what happened. year and then to look quickly of all these issuesls. and to give the strongest possible condemnation and.

but he and his colleagues have something they need to take control of. i think, >> but i am leaving. an as someone is about to enter the political graveyardr the political leave it at the cemetery gates. [laughter] >> faq mr. speaker. and then with that arrangement so for that

negotiation and to be complete than the u.k. 2014 government the financial powerhouse. >> was there any message. >> it was pretty late by the time we get back. >> became the a acknowledgments that don't think he fully appreciates with the common membershipetarye and part of that agreement

and then there were dragged through the european union and others were expressed of has expressed in a refown constituency and then to say can tooth syrup these out we have no idea but witty in pulse en prejudice of politics we need to get a better situation for the constituents.e access and benefs >> do e understand your passion?ab >> so the history of this is different the united kingdom would continue this is aha

sovereign decision for the united kingdom. info to of those best possible negotiations. south with a european commission. and on the interim basis. every should have a uk commission and i discussed this yesterday as we came a nomina >> with irish immigrants once again we see fierce stock the streets.

to say we don't want you muslims here. and then we make the rules. for those to put mainstream into the referendum.obia being i and they can never be rightth from the color of their skin and that we will never ever allow this great dynamic multi-cultural britain to be divided by the evil of racism. >> i never wanted to see those sentiments appear in our country again but the difference between now andnd the '50s and '60s is the states of our laws are stronger in the

prosecutorial authorities wanting to make sure they're all brought to bear. >> as far as the presidency is concerned perhaps they should invite the detriment if they could understand concerns expre those that live in the e.u. in particular with regards to health care. >> of course, the health care issue that does not well as large as i thought benefits from being in and the storing of digital content and access to help serve it - - services. the is

what are the rules of excess? and then to see what the future holds. >>.stability of our local >> so what should i say? reassur and then we have two democrats -- demonstrate the referendum over a six / one basis the we should do everything we can that height -- he crime but then we will conduct the negotiations what we can do to achieve the of closest possible relationship. that is our goal with reassurance.

or with any referendum debate so now we will make the best we can of the new situation. >>. >> i suggest if you're looking to stop as something other than san a legacy. >> darr wish i didn't but we just need to have some base load energy to meet the challenging targets in our country.educe carbon emissions d i have seen a massive expansion of renewal and a favorite statistic of 90%

but you do need some base load power. >> if the prime minister will take out these copies he may want to saying my favorite track i know that part of labour par [laughter] >> mr. speaker before it convenes for the stakeholders to workout what this means can you assure us that it will not be damaged during the negotiation? >> i'll then everything i can to stand at the interesting fact of the labor party that the light never goes out but it does

involve a double decker dash ine crashes i think. [laughter] i'm not sure that is totally reassuring but if that was set 10-ton truck. [laughter]in here try negotiations one you got inspiration [laughter] look at that compendious knowledge. [laughter] i am impressed.inarily >> i will not ask for any more lyrics today but those honorable members that talk about the importance of manufacturing but then talk about london are and preparations for thosei negotiations and i

absolutely agree with that about those mechanisms to allow our regions that our rare preparation of negotiations. >> what i can say is that we need to find mechanisms and we have some already to make sure the voices of the nation's and the regions can be heard and i commit to that.

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>> good afternoon. i am the director of the global business economics program a special welcome to your commissioner and her team and she said very busy days. i am delighted all of you have shown up today now the next round of negotiations was announced a couple of hours ago taking place in brussels in two weeks but commissioners the first european leader after the british referendum so we are eager to understand the next best opportunity in for the even after the boat. we don't always understand

but we advocate for a stronger europe since the european union i want to remind all of you is one of the richest areas on earth has strong institutions at the national and european mobile employee is the key role in an ankle volt - - goal will economic governance so less than six years later germany and france were allow the formation with those that created the community that pave the way for the founding of the european union. thanks to the foresight of the others and the strong political and economic support by the united states, something that was impossible to think about was now a reality.

so those things that seem to impossible last we can become reality now and we take it is time to face the challenges with the ultimate aim of more prosperity in this is why we launch the euro growth initiative last march we want to galvanize the trans-atlantic community and also bill whole task force am particularly happy that some members are here today i also invite all of you to bring home the first

three publications and the gains from enjoying being the european union so the outcome of last week's referendum reenforce the transatlantic relationship and our mission of the euro growth i cannot think of a better person for the discussion the european trade commissioner who has been steering the commission's work on trade since 2014. after for remarks, she will later be joined on stage by our fantastic panel the president of global public affairs at ups and the president of the american federation of labor and industrial organizations afl-cio the panel would be moderated from the editor of

the group that was one of the leading transatlantic journalists after the panel will open the discussion to the audience and if you follow through twitter invite you to use #with the e.u. growth is the #it is positive we talk about growth so commissioner please defer it is yours. [applause] >> thank you very much good afternoon ladies and gentleman is is good to be here today as they said before we decided to create some drama so the referendum was organized.

[laughter] i will come back to that. if only for a couple of days i cannot stay for the fourth of july celebration but everybody likes a good celebration with fireworks come to think that the trade negotiations is like fireworks national holidays and a part important time with family and friends in my country we have ours midsummer were we paid tribute to fragility and summer and the life here on friday morning when we had spent some time it was a little bit less festive than usual and it became clear early friday morning that the u.k. and the citizens had decided to vote to leave the european union of

course, we expected that but we reread that it does have consequences for the u.k. cop i know you have a lot of questions and i'll answer some of them but also realize we need some more time before we can fully grasp the consequences there was a meeting yesterday with a head states including prime minister cameron with the other 27 heads of states as they met to discuss the future formally there still a member of the european union have was very clear and has a legally change anything the prime minister has triggered an hour fifties' he said he will leave that to the next prime minister to be chosen in

september proposed so before that nothing can start in the form of negotiations that are highly technical will take some time and then we go on and the issues have to be resolved before we can even start to think of the relationship of the united kingdom this is something the next prime minister will try how do they have their relation with the european union? of course, they are neighbor friend and ally but exactly how that will materialize it is too early to say so for the moment when it comes to teach it that means they are

negotiating with 28 countries and that may be the case for another year or two. have the possibility to meet with the ambassador and the jointly agreed the irrational argument is as strong today or maybe stronger and the reason why we chose to embark on this is we will continue to negotiate with the possibility yesterday to go through different items to prepare for the next round of negotiations that will take place in brussels starting the 11th of july. we are negotiating with other countries and do whatever we can to make sure we make as much progress as

possible before the end of the obama administration that is the plan and that has not changed even if the referendum is there and if they vote with us and negotiate with them that was confirmed yesterday. and now i'm sure we will have the possibility to discuss this but back to national celebrations and holidays because they are an expression of identity that isn't always part of trade negotiations but they are today and that is the paradox we're facing with global trade and investment has never been more important for our economy but political debates on trade and investment has never been more intense did you hear the debate in a presidential alexian and in

our country where we're being debated here or in some of our country's that is very much debated as well and they focus on how to reconcile preserving our identities but the fourth of july celebration but the way how we choose to regulate our economies and societies and our response is first to engage much more with people to address the concern to change the perches we need highly ambitious trade agreements to create economic opportunity we need

to show those economic opportunities are there. changing the approach in highlighting the economic rationale and to take important steps to engage in the debate and for instance in response to concerns in europe there has been an unprecedented amount of transparency with proposals background reports and detailed summaries for everybody to see. we're traveling around with my team to engaged in dialogue to answer questions in to be on board with us through the negotiations we have made clear that removing regulatory protection is not an aim of these negotiations also to

protect investments in regulate the freedom to a guaranteed the freedom to regulate with the principle they should not change the government to the ability to provide health care or education or all of the above must protect our values throughout the world in particular with labor and the environment and if we want these negotiations to succeed after continue to adopt the dialogue. that is one response to popular concern but also to support the deal we have to create real economic opportunities we have come a long way and begin to see the alliance of what the action will look like but we have a lot of work to do to meet our targets we need to

work and we are ready to do that we're preparing ourselves across the board by summer break to make those political choices needed to close the deal by the end of the year we will not do it just to be concluded that has to be good to get through the political system and also with us and our 28 member states starting with market access we need the ambitious outcome and jerry are relatively well-positioned with trade and services we have more the ticket must address the longstanding existing areas that the service provider space in

the u.s. including the approaches like maritime services telecom and across the board of movements in mutual recognition for professionals like architects to strengthen corporations to effectively regulate the transatlantic national services. second we must secure to the competition much depends on investment and it is very important so they have a larger effort to guarantee existing openness to make trade barriers we're working both fights to address these issues the second amendment is public procurement and it

is a bid to have an ambitious agreement here to create new opportunities that the federal and state level the looking to establish a level playing field and they compete for contracts we want to have the same possibilities as u.s. firms under the european system we have one set of rules and a joint database to renounce all of their procurements at all levels of the opinion so we seek a more level playing field memo where it is a sensitive issue in the u.s. we're ready to explore the ambitious outcome that takes this into account but it is a highly prioritized area for the european union sold faster approval is needed thrall levels of government.

the second of the regulatory cooperation is vital osorno carefully implement public concerns to agree on common principles and that means committing to high quality impact assessments investing technical issues with conformity assessments and provide a platform for the future there is plenty of work to make it more compatible for the future regulatory cooperation is essential so the framework that involves the regulators we have the best regulators in the world if they can work together to share

knowledge and data and expertise we can jointly set very high global standards of course, there should be in the mutual interest so this is the advisory body and ultimately the legislatures make the difference with that third rule is that reduces the necessary complications as we are discussing the sectors of pharmaceutical engineering medical devices now is the time to turn these into commitments to make proposals and we have more in the coming weeks and share with the average outcome and also the credibility we're not here

to limit the freedom of what is a program under the statutes but a technical fix for a deeper cooperation in the future and here we have the opportunity to make good progress finally we have sustainable development geographical indications and investments sustainable development here are aiming for provisions of the environment to strengthen the corporation on these issues and around the world to have the most ambitious provisions ever of labor rights and the trade agreement in making reference to the situation and addresses the issues of the agenda health and safety

and we want to promote these globally and the work against child labor and endangered species from corporate responsibility in restarting a discussion how they should be enforced second small and medium-sized firms so they can benefit is more cumbersome for them to handle those bureaucratic obstacles. they don't have those economic possibilities to do that as big companies have. and the trade barriers are significant but when things they need is to have easy

access that is why we want to have a commitment of a one-stop shop for the relevant information so the geographical indication something that is very important for the member states geographical indications are in many countries around the world and all forms of intellectual property reinsurer cut customers' and compensate for quality and then in force when products are exported around the world and that is why they need to be protected in the trade agreements we have had strong provisions with the countries such as canada and

we have had long debates on this issue and we're ready to find a reasonable approach that most of what we want to see protected does not conflict and if it does we have to find pragmatic results and do that within the framework of the of the bill system this is difficult we had a long discussion and yesterday but this is really important for us so we need a high quality results and the final issue is investment protection this is a very sensitive part particularly in many of the member states and european union but i take it as global as we share the view investment protection is vital by supporting the deepening of the foreign

investment from domestic investment from extra protection but we also need to redress the concerns and that is why we embarked on the european union to be much more transparent and focused to make sure we can regulate in the public interest those that we have with vietnam's and canada so a deal like this will not be easy before the end of the obama administration and will require the utmost of italy to do the traditional trade agreement but to go further but i think it is

possible because if we make it worthwhile we can have political support we have tough debates in the european union but we have the unanimous mandate and that commitment remains another is a very intense debate right now but we have a strong support in the administration for members of the congress on both sides and even in these trying times of trade in this country i think people understand the different issues the european union is like up highly developed economies arrau's largest market some of the highest regulatory standards and the

competition of labor standards often isn't an issue in there is some connection for property including biologics and when people come to look in more detail the hope that approach will be there. >> and it is possible we know those contingencies for the outcome for the trade unions or consumers we know request need to be reasonable and to respond to reasonable request and what we're looking for on procurement and investments that if there is enough political will but we fully understand the objectives of congress as well as through

the trade promotion authority we will need to work closely together with the e.u. in the u.s. and i look forward to doing that it is worth the effort of a positive response from what is shaking the political system away to strengthen our friendship and alliances and partnerships we share some of the values and history so we must stick together so our people need the opportunities that this can provide new very happy am looking forward to the ability to discuss this with the panel. thanks for inviting me. [applause]

[inaudible conversations] >> is the pleasure to be a part of this distinguished panel as timing is everything in now taking stock so one of the big questions of the day is the commissioner can he survive and how did that happen? >> you didn't pay attention. [laughter] of course, it can and it will. we can answer them now and now we have to wait until there is a clearer picture

but for now the united kingdom is a member of the european union and we will negotiate on behalf of all 28 members and we have that confirmation from the prime ministers and heads of state and that will continue siddur later you'll have to take positions to say which way the u.k. is going before the moment it is there you powerball the reason in the world to facilitate trade so yes you will survive. >> with the understanding eventually perhaps it is part of this. will british negotiators be in the room? and though there are

discussions already about whether members of the commission or the negotiators as part of the staffing issue if they don't even talk to each other so if what you've been planning so far, how does that work? >> it is the commissions team that negotiates they do remain their work for the european union and they will stay. before and after each round of negotiations, we discuss with representatives from the neighbor - - member states to keep them informed to make sure we reached the steps we are taking i have no reason to believe that the u.k. will not be in the room and i have to leave the a full competence to do that

they are one of the strongest voices of free trade in one of the reasons i am sad to see them leave but eventually they will be a part of that agreement they can join afterwards or maybe they wanted is of little too early to say that but i don't count on them being difficult and referred to that statement we cannot have 20 parallel negotiations we have to be patient and allow them to define their vision of relationship before we can start putting in the meantime we have to go on we still have a huge agenda for their other challenges on migration and security and i

think it would be detrimental if we don't do anything. >> i want to ask as the commissioner mentioned tpp with that more controversial all trade going on right now in america and conventional wisdom has been that you will not see the same type of potential from organized labor than you've seen with tpp and maybe the vote as a little less contentious. what do you say to that? >> first colony complement the commissioner on the transparency of releasing

her proposal and we don't do that in this country than we have to sign a statement saying we will not divulged to anybody if they give them to you do you devils' them? >> we cannot do that the goalie was consolidated text you can release yours? >>. [laughter] >> with the debate and it

shrouds of these agreements where do they come from? i will send the following words. whether to trade or not a trader what the rules are or who benefits. so to apply that standard to meet that standard to lower the standards and to control their own economies in the other 70 a 75% haven't ben a

good for them. >> are you worried at all the departure in any sense that will complicate things? and making it possible. >> etfs is trade operating the countries and territories crossing borders every day we hear a big champion the trade but also high standards. to ensure that our people are well paid with the highest standards that we protect our people because at the end of the day of our success.

we believe they are a great way as well as creating growth and opportunity. those of us support a job and those that tessin pay increase because a small and medium-size companies can access more markets we want to see more trade happening everywhere. so agreements like tpp are so important and to respect the decision and does the

rest of the world continue. with some of the to asia as the royal oak curve. ups goal will make it possible to do business they are doing at the end of the day and allows the u.k. to continue to grow so are we worried about the implications? we don't like the uncertainty but we have learned to operate in a certain situations default back on grey services coming back to our customers and we will continue to do that with the u.k. in or out. >> obviously we're in a presidential campaign so with donald trump what do

you think? how will that shakeout? [laughter] >> i get the question all the time what they think of a clinton or trump presidency it tell my seal it doesn't matter to me my job is to make sure that either candidate understands what is at stake for our employees in the growth of our business and from that perspective may be our job is a little more challenging given the statements that have been made about trade but to explain how we do a redo what our customers need to grow and the challenges they face at the border because there's a lot of friction that affect the company's to convince both candidates about the importance of continuing to

continue in the agenda at the heart of growth but the global economy. >> with the negotiations would be more under hillary and donald with people with his intolerance or disagreements are different points of view might think workers would fare much better under hillary clinton administration because she cares about our values more than he does but the likelihood of him wanting to show how macho he really is right out of the issues could make an agreement more difficult by and not so sure as negotiations or imposing a point of view. with long-term friends and

trading partners that isn't necessarily a good way. >> but obviously as a representative of the commission we have novio of food should be the next president of the united states but whoever is the president he or she is one of the most powerful people in the world we would hope that relationship would remain the we have to deal with whoever it is. >> put the political context change last year because there are concerns about trade how does that affect

those negotiations were that presidential campaign play out? >> to increasingly have that trade debate and as he sees many other countries it is frustration with gone through a total economic crisis so in the background of our discussions frankly haven't heard either candidate mentioning it at all actually. so it is an opportunity to watch on the radar in the presidential campaign here so we need to make sure that we continue of course, , as that is the more intense face as the date gets closer

it could complicate but so far we are moving full steam ahead to our constituencies. >> to achieve the goal to get video on whenever it is called before obama leaves office what is the timetable? with how fast to happen do you have much time left? >> it could be close the 19th of january. >> but then you said if it happens everything changes? >> of course, it is realistic even if they agree to a moral it may not be stamped so what is the point

of the agreement that is fair that the next administration will have to deal with the package but that's could go higher if -- and -- john deere half of january literally so officially with the next round of negotiations with the 11th of july will be meeting with our teams before that time and after and have a meeting to come back here just after the summer to stop and see where we are. >> and people believe with this agreement it could be a reality to put this into presidential politics city would not gore around the

country saying it will be done before the end of the year because it will become a presidential issue but the likelihood of it getting through of the vote is zero and none to be cut off the matter what it is they may want to scrap it they may want to for the sake to show that he is. [laughter] >> is complicated in the making more complicated by pretending because the ioc that is any likelihood at all. >> that doesn't have been beyond this year then french

and german elections then it becomes even harder any time over the next year. >> optimism is my duty and there are elections and a the rhetoric but when it calms down we all realize that make trade between the two biggest economic partners is of a good thing but how we do that is another question and i would imagine that if we don't get it done before the end of the mandate that we would have to move as much as possible to the point of no return then see with the next administration there be elections through germany and france and the netherlands but we would

have to manage that. >> everything we talk about and is being done in a political vacuum the whole rest of the world as we talk about these issues china japan trivia is pursuing the agreement but the rest of the world is continuing to negotiate a free-trade agreements some of us may not necessarily agree with also 21st century challenges to be grappled with at the end of the day to have the negotiators rarely share the same values addressing those issues of how we address the greater partnership to allow trade to flourish beck counter those fibers security threats and promote greater

innovation with those biologics that allow the ability to bring this life-saving medicine became ginnie those intellectual property rights with the investment into developing the medicine with the access that they need can be encouraged and this comes through good robust dialogue between u.s. and european negotiators and a lot of our conversations talk about the fact to allies and friends and partners coming together we want to have high standard labor agreements and protection for intellectual property we have a lot of things you want to ensure become globalized in a high

standard way not necessarily to lower regulations thinking a firm stand on reliability but green standards but to do that to reach an agreement and that can happen in a not if we abandon the others. >> i know we're not suggesting not whether or not to trade but what are the rules and who benefits from the rules? if you look at this situation is very well could be bent into up with a great example but let's set the parameters about what is at stake is in the panoply of growth the recent steady say in 15 years europe will achieve point 5% additional

growth if it is signed in the u.s. will get point to% so it isn't a great strategy it could be political to have friends make stronger ties i am all for a bad but it could be others because all those rules that you set up nine are to increase the lower standards they're all tools to decrease testing standard down word so we are skeptical because we have been promised manna from heaven with every trade agreement that has come down and it doesn't come from having as we have seen in most instances so we are of little bit skeptical about this and i will repeat what i said earlier if there ever was a chance for agreement

this is what we can get and i hope we do but we are concerned about the special court system being set up and we're doing tremendous business back and forth right now so what is the need we're told you have to have something. that is good enough for every citizen your but it isn't swivet special system with a very loose standards of fair and equitable treatment as part of those proposals to have wal-mart put in a proposal of the geographical locations why

did they do that? wanted to eliminate the zoning standards locally and make it so they could use it this is the only system in the world where someone is telling you you have to pay them to stop killing you and it's exactly what happens if they're given no product because of cancer and we stop it the government has to pay them because they stopped and hit the bottom line because of a nebulous standard of fair and equitable treatment if it isn't fair and equitable then i pay you to stop doing what you we're doing that makes us of that nervous and what to say come up with a better standard.

>> i applaud you for some of the things that you did with the environmental because i think they helped and better defined but simply this is a point that is the necessary and nobody has made the case why it is necessary when we have to court systems that are highly developed with trillions of dollars of investment and now suddenly we need a special court for investors? that does that apply to any citizen. >> gone that point you have a lot of concerns on both sides of the court set up from the labor side and the business side there is concerns about changing their previous arrangement so where do things stand on that with negotiations?

houri managing those in there you any closer? >> i will start by saying of course, however successful of the ambition is the part of it but we have around 20 treat trade agreements reynaud it is very important for the european union so it is one piece of the process we have very active stakeholders and to scrutinize to follow what comes out of it very closely that is insulting the high standards in dissent

irreversible that the ballot is higher never lower because this is probably the most toxic acronym in the european union would reach talking about? for an investment in our country foreign investment by nature is why the world has set up thousands of bilateral investment treaties to protect that if found some cases where they try to use it in a way to stop those countries to regulate and protect the environment. the european had allowed 120-0500 of these investment agreements and they are in need of disorganization

south africa and mexico canada so we thought because we had such high expectations it could be a moment to reform this and gas that could be decades but in most cases of course, could be solved in ordinary courts but we want to set standards the u.s. has nine bilateral agreements so this is a way to abolish those and in our mandate to seek some sort of protection so it is much more transparent to limit abuse and then have the pool

of pre-selected judges instead of lawyers to make it more transparent this is something we can work on verbally canada and the unknown voted down this with the european parliament in the member states because we both have robust legal systems we are discussing this with the u.s. that transparency is important as they go through different systems as well but we haven't concluded that chapter yet but with tpp

there is something similar so if they would enter a trade agreement with the u.s. with approve the in the canadian companies show that is very difficult. >> is a circular argument that if they're not fair here than they are and it is what this system is it is all the more reason not to have a special court system for foreign investors belloc's out the general public and citizens but the courts handle that it has done well since we left england in 1776. [laughter] it has been a wonderful experience for us. >> there is an incredible value getting their right to

with investor protections because as you point out the system has been working quite well hopefully this is no bin platform agreement with the adoption of these types of high standards i think of the bilateral investment treaty under way right now we don't have strong investor protection right now in china i have as much confidence in the chinese court system as european or american courts oic great value with that standard to bring the chinese along. >> our probably blunt that same system but we're not dealing with china it is to countries in two markets that have dealt with each other for hundreds of years highly developed court systems that do not need a special court system for foreign investors period cry would argue us strong

transatlantic trade we may products m services together it is in our interest to have u.s. and european standards we the one by which the rest of the world tries to reach up to a tape that protect the u.s. and european countries. >> that is a circular argument because we're told we need the systems in place to make them come up to speed and i say because they're up to speed so what if they don't? you have to make a decision it helps them to develop a core system or it doesn't not both ways. >> on that note i have to turn it off. [laughter] >> now i will take to questions at a time.

>> i am from bbc news. with what kind of access to eating the u.k. can't get in the single market event doesn't agree to freedom of movement? [laughter] >> so therefore freedoms in the opinion that there linked together. [laughter] [applause] >> air from the washington end daily publication over the last two years talking about this i have heard about political will does

that include a willingness for both sides to make serious compromises? because i haven't heard that word much over two years. >> if think it is concessions. [laughter] obviously if we're not ready to compromise why would we start negotiations? we need to see what is on the table and the prairies and that is what makes it complicated and why we engage we need to compromise >> we have gotten good at compromising.