have about 10 million. we are smaller but sophisticated. engaging in and micromanaging those business negotiations in my mind makes no sense. i would certainly continue to urge the fcc to focus on rolling out 5g not on managing pricing practices that have been unregulated. >> host: next thursday, july 14th, the fcc is meeting to discuss and potentially vote on a roll out of 5g. what are they going to be voting on and doing? >> guest: they will be identifying the spectrum and other stuff they are not allowed to share that information with any of us. the goal is to say we have got the spectrum, the vision thing going about where we want to go about wireless, and we will push ahead to insure that the u.s. maintains its global leadership in the wireless arena.

that is terrific for our country and i would argue it is essential because this is one of those areas where u.s.-global leadership has yielded tremendous benefits economically from a technological perspective and job perspective. >> host: when you say they have the license, are they releasing it to the public? selling it? >> guest: i think there are a number of layers and some of it will be for auctioned, you have lice licensed and unlicensed use and i haven't been in wireless for a while so correct me if i am wrong but i believe they will have a layered approach that fits in multiple buckets. >> fundamentally, an unlicensed is really like wi-fi.

you used to work for a carrier, isn't it interesting to you that at this set, the fcc is looking at opening up these high frequency bands way up on the spectrum broadband. that wasn't imaginable back in the day. can you reflect on that? >> it is fascinating the way technology moves you ahead. every time you hit a wall with spectrum being available for consumers you say we are done. we have an in satiable appetite communicate better and faster and it drives creativity and you are finding new bands that were previously unusable and now they are valuable. different characteristics that

require different standards but none the less valuable for going on demand for wireless applications. from a wi-fi perspective, we own a ton of wi-fi. we don't own wireless spectrum but we have leveraged all of the wi-fi capabilities. we will provide wi-fi in stadiums, restaurants, and businesses when we build out and in the home. we can give a lot of mobility to our customers without actually owning the spectrum. >> company like you have somewhat of a business interest in seeing more spectrum put aside for wi-fi? >> guest: absolutely. it is good thing. >> host: why are you been buying fios? >> guest: because two things. one, you have to scale up if you want to stay in this business. if you are reinventing your company to be more than just a

phone company. that means you are putting a lot of money into capital to build out and scale matters for participating equipment and negotiating content agreement. verizon was willing to sell. and not only were they willing to sell assets but they were willing to sell fios' assets which are incredible. the opportunity for us to scale up was too good to be true. it was a big step for us to take because we doubled in size. but at the same time, it freed up us and gave us the scale we need and the technological capabilities we need to continue to move our business forward and try better products and services. >> host: kathleen abernathy,

have you faced issues in the scaling up? >> yes, it is hard. it is stand alone company and you can start operating it right away. we were buying piece parts of verizon and separating entire networks from what i call the mother ship and we have to dup licate -- duplicate all of the infrastructure and we have to build the capability and mirror all they have toot to remove it from verizon and put it on frontier systems. the good news is we were 99% effective at this cut over.

but there were customers who didn't have the experience they wanted and we had to come back from that. >> do you see frontier becoming a provider at some point? >> guest: entering the program market is very hard. we have hundreds of thousands of video assets in our video on demand. and we have an agreement with netflix for customers to have access to all of those apps. we have one of the biggest studio libraries and for our size it is bigger than many cable competitors. that is one way we play without

owning the video. and then we negotiate rights to it. >> they will to do deal with privacy choices more is what i believe. do you think the fcc proved in approving -- succeeded in approving the rules this year? >> one of the outgrowths of the constant broadband and getting online any time any where is everybody knows what you are doing. there has been the next generation of kids, my daughter, they don't even really think much about 5c.

i think about it all of the time and the fcc congress wants to insure the customer privacy rights are protected. you have to know how to convey and explain this complex world. the challenge we have right now in the privacy space is there is two layers of regulation. you have fcc rules and fcc rules. nobody out there in america who goes online and types in a google search says i wonder what privacy rules apply today and they don't. they want to believe their privacy is being protected. so the real big issue is to try and come up with a privacy framework that is protecting

consum consum consumers. there are different rules for different providers. that is right. it will get confusing for customers so i think what will be important is over time to try to reconcile all of the rules to a general framework. >> is the company concerned if the fcc lays down rules? and we are talking about companies like facebook and netfl netflix? >> yes, let's be l honest, facebook, twitter, versus frontier they are a little bigger, they are very adapted at usi using data mining and marketing to consumers. i believe we need good solid framework and has to be consiste

consistent. they want more protection. consistency of protection becomes very important. >> one final question on that. in the real world doesn't it seem like the fcc is heading strongly toward the separate rules for isd's that will be a lot tougher? >> it does seem like that. i think it is because the fcc is looking at it and saying these are the right rules, these are rules that should be in place. my answer is you need to reconcile with the realities of the marketplace. you know how you want the world to be but you don't anyhow how to create that space and if there is a lot of loopholes you don't accomplish what you wanted to in the first place.

jurisdictional boundaries and scope of legal authority puts pressure on what you can do. >> host: kathleen abernathy, -- >> guest: the fcc came up with the program called the connect america fund and it is revamping the old fund to say let's use to

it help subsidize broadband as opposed to voice. and you could say why do you need to subsidize. and these are rural market where the cost wouldn't get there soon and we know how critical broadband is in our daily lives and particularly rural networks like medical and advanced training classes or submitting a resume for jobs online. it is critical. how does the telecom act of '96 affect your life we ask and would you like to see a

comprehensive rewrite? >> guest: the telecom act is incredibly outdated. it forces sometimes bizarre behavior by regulators. you are trying to shoe horn it into a regulatory structure that is outdated. but on the other hand, be careful, you never know what comes out. we have to look at the framework and say this is what we have to deal with it and sometimes it

results in what you call unfairness. the statue isn't identical for all companies but you have to get over it because it will never be fair. it is like telling children life is not fair. you have to get over it and say how do i live within the confines of the statutes and provide products and services consistent with that and how do i work with regulators where i think some regulations make sense and some don't. >> host: kathleen abernathy, former head of the federal communication center and robert

butts has been joining us. >> loretta lynch heads up to capitol hill and members expect to question her about what the gop sees as the politicizing of the justice department. the third part ay candidates ar speaking out criticizing the debate rule that requires a 15% threshold in national surveys to take part in the debates. they both spoke at the national press club. >> this year's election has been described as one where voters will hold their noses while making choices.

we are pleased to welcome to the national press club former new mexico governor, gary johnson, and the presidential nominee william wells, the former governor of massachusetts. they both served as republicans and he ran in 2012 taking 1.3 million cast. the moe most ever for a libertarian candidate. in a four way race, johnson takes 7% of the votes. but in order to appear in a debate on television johnson will have to hit at least 15%.

the requirement set and johnson calls himself a conservative fiscal and social liberal. as new mexico's governor from 1995-2003 he cut taxes 14 times while balancing the budget. his running mate is william wells, who was massachusetts' chief executive from 1991-1997 and won office with 51% of the vote and reelected at 70% of the vote. wells turned a phrase that resonates with libertarians. i want to get governments out of your wallet and out of your bed room. what they are attempting to do is as daunting as climbing mount everest.

each question will speak for ten minutes and then we will move to question. please give a warm press club welcome to gary johnson and william welsh. >> this about the crazy election many of us have every seen. i might be the next president of the united states. >> i am gary johnson and i am the former governor of new mexico. two terms. elected as a republican and a state that elected me twice in a state that is 4-1 democrats.

reelected the second time by the largest history in massachusetts politics running from a governor. we are the libertarian nominees for president and vice president. we are on the ballot in all 50 states. that is something that no other third party will be every to lay claim to. we think military interventions result in the unintended consequence of making the world less safe not more safe. i think we are skeptical. i think most of us fall into the same category of being classical liberal and so does most of america.

sadly, republicans don't fall in this category. part of that has to do right now with the republican nominee. they are not welcoming to gays, lesbian, women, ethnic minority and the things he is saying regarding immigration, as a border state governor, are insinidary. the fact he is going to deport 11 million undocumented workers, that he wants to build a fence across the border, that they are murderers and rapist when they are law-abiding citizens and they are hard working and just looking to improve their lives as we all are looking to improve our lives. and democrats, i am afraid, don't either fit into the category of being classical

liberal. everything about the democratic party is free. free everything. the government provides you with everything you need. and i think we all recognize nothing is free. somebody pays for that. so at the end of the day, government grows with democrats and taxes go up. and when they go up, that is money from your and our pocket that we could be spending on our own lives and shouldn't we have money to make choices in our lives as opposed to government determining what is best. i have been asked would we be satisfied with getting 15% of the vote in the general election. absolutely not. we would not be doing this if we

didn't think we could win and we cannot win without being in the presidential debate and we have to be at 15% in the polls to do so. we think that is doable. consensus number is up half what it was seven weeks ago. we think we will be in the presidential debates and get to the 15% and we think anything can happen at that point. i am speaking to the point we have to two most polarizing figures in america today. if mickey mouse was the third name mickey would be polling at 30 because he is a known commodity but he is not on the

ballot in all 50 states and bill and are are. we were good friends and good friends now. beyond my wildest dreams, bill well is my running mate. he was a role model for me prior to becoming governor and i have always had him on a ped stool. the fact he is my running mate adds incredible amounts to this team. we plan on governing as a team. we will not have separate staff that seek to divide in this case the president and the vice president. so this is a two-for-one is what i like to say.

in our administration, appoints are not going to be based on politics. as the governor of new mexico, i prided myself on the appoints i made and interviewed for every appointment i made. no insults, threats or bluffs is what you will see in our campaign and there is plenty to go around to add to that. mow self serving lectures will come out of the johnson-weld

administration. [applause] our standard for governing will be the health, safety and wellness of american citizens. the goal to make it happen is to have a robust economy. i cut taxes 14 times. bill cut taxes 21 times. count on us to support legislation that will simplify is lower taxes. count on us to provide proposals on how to actually make that happen. government can provide a level playing field for everyone.

crony capitalism is alive and well. and crony capitalism has everything to do with government being involved in everyday affairs and count on us to reduce that role of government when it comes to everyday affairs but count on us to support legislation that makes things more fair and an even playing field. in texas, the governor said he created more jobs but they did an analysis and actually it was gary johnson. asked to respond, which i did as governor also, government does not create jobs. the private sector does. but government can provide a level playing field and i think

i greatly contributed to that as governor of new mexico. we both understand what washington doesn't. and that is that money comes from taxpayers not from the government. government doesn't create jobs. a consistently lower tax burden and regulatory burden will give business confidence to move forward and that is something that we will provide. we are not guessing about this. two former governors running for president of the united states, we were asked the question coming from an editorial board meeting before this, so you are just supposeded to take this on fa faith? -- supposed. no, google gary johnson and bill. this is for real and it will make a difference.

give us a chance and we will make a difference. i am going to close with johnson's seven principles of good government. one is become reality driven. find out what is what and base our decisions and actions on that. number two, always be honest and tell the truth. it is difficult to do any damage to anybody who is willing to tell the truth regardless of the consequences. number three, always do what is right and fair. learn to ignore critics and continue to do what you know is right. number four, determine your goal and develop a plan to reach the goal and act, don't procrastinate. make sure everybody who ought to know what you are doing knows what you are doing. communicate. number six, don't hesitate to

deliver bad news. there is always time to fix things. when you tell the truth you admit mistakes and how often do they compound because people refuse to acknowledge them? and lastly, do whatever it takes to get the job done. if you don't have a job you love, get a job you love now. today. it will never be easier because it is never better than waking up and enjoying what it is you are doing with your life. thank you, very much. i think i will turn it over to bill now. [applause] >>

>> the lawyer gridlock in the grip to the capital people listen to each other in things got done. but not today. live to power monopoly of the republican and democratic parties has now run the course of all monopolies becoming arrogant and calcified like electric utility with a guaranteed rate of return. hyper gerrymandering has resulted in eggs attached -- extreme part is ahead on either side of the aisle the two major party seem to agree on only one thing to perpetuate their own duopoly. but the duopoly is second