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sacrifices. we are on the battle lines in the battle for the hearts and minds of americans. we are on the front lines in the spiritual battle as well. and we find ourselves battling to keep the pro-life leadership in the united states house of representatives and senate so that we can pass protective pro-life legislation that saves lives. we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equally and they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. how many times have we heard these words? too many of us have become numb to the profound history behind them. we forget these words represented a truly radical idea
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of the time. they frot thoughts on the fronts of history i'm capable of knowing the effect their efforts would have on future lives. but they knew that these ideas, life and liberty were worth fighting for. each time you enter the voting booth, you have a ripple effect that will impact the entire country. you will be electin electing ses and representatives that will determine the direction of the nation and who will decide the next members of the supreme court. you will be electing local representatives who will decide whether your state and respects life passes laws that prey on the vulnerable. those local representatives may eventually run for higher office and so the cycle is. each of vote we cast or do not cast will have consequences.
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you may tire of hearing me tell you each election is the most important we have ever seen that with each comes new opportunities, new dangers and fresh faces. each election is the chance to protect mothers and their unborn children, and each election i will sound the call for each of you to take up your arms and work for the political leaders that will represent all of us, born and unborn. the freedom to vote and have an impact on this magnitude is a great responsibility that we all bear. as we look to the upcoming supreme court nominations, perhaps the greatest responsibility we in the political field have right now is to ensure that we have a pro-life senate that will come from the pro-life nominees and
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block judges who would entrench roe. there are a lot of races we will need to work on to accomplish this task, but i know that armed with this information you will go back to your communities and rally the necessary truths to see this through. as we discuss the races, i will be talking a lot about the nation's largest abortion provider, planned parenthood and the extreme pact that only works for democratfor democrat women t abortion for any reason, emily's list. but i don't like repeating myself, so i'm going to give you your first and easiest task in the battle. so you need to wake up because i need your help. when i see planned parenthood, you say the nation's largest provider. good job.
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okay. next when i see emily's list, you say the extreme pro- abortion pac. there are senate seats up for election. i think we need to go to the next slide. the democrat seats and republicans he, all of the democrats up for the reelection are pro- abortion. according to the report the democratic seats are currently safe while 13 of the 24 republican seats are actually formidable. democratdemocrats have a net gae senate or for if they win the white house. in order to maintain the leadership, we cannot afford to lose any senator senators in 20. and the senate actions will be
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tough. do not fall into the trap of thinking if you do not live in one of those states that this election doesn't affect you. remember that we are all in this together and need to support each other regardless of the location. if you are in the nowhere near race find out how you can support your colleagues via social media and reach out to friends and families that may live in different locations. never stop looking for an opportunity to make a differen difference. with an eye towards how you can make an impact in the battle before us, let's review the most pressing senate races we face in her. just last month many of us breathed a sigh of relief when senator marco rubio announced he will run for a second term in the senate. he's voted pro-life on every
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occasion. [applause] following the august 3 30th primary committed opponent would likely be either pro- abortion representative alan grayson or patrick murphy who is so extreme on the life issue he even voted against the bill to care for babies that are born alive during an abortion and he voted to continue funding planned parenthood, largest abortion provider. >> joe heck will face the attorney general from nevada's open seat. they voted for the child protection act and he voted to defund planned parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider.
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>> in contrast to they were supported by pro-choice america and emily's list. in new hampshire, kelly a author who has a 100% voting record is being challenged by the pro- abortion governor, another candidate supported by emily's list. in ohio the pro-life senator is facing a challenge by the former governor ted strickland. strickland. he is a 100% voting record while strickland had voted against the pro-life position nearly 80% of the time over the ten year span. he's been endorsed by planned parenthood. >> the nation's largest abortion provider. in pennsylvania for senator is facing a challenge by another candidate from emily's list.
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in wisconsin twisconsin senatorn faces pro- abortion senator russ feingold. senator johnson has a 100% pro-life voting record and in contrast to the former senator supports the current policy of abortion on demand and the band every chance he had and is endorsed by planned parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider. they faced the former assemblywoman deborah ross the candidates supported by emily's list. >> in arizona congresswoman kirkpatrick, a candidate from emily's list -- >> the nation's largest -- the extreme pro- abortion pac is
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challenging senator john mccain. senator mccain's record contrasts greatly with kirkpatrick's who voted against the legislation and voted to fund the planned parenthood, the nation's largest provider. >> the commissioner is challenging the senator michael bennett and the colorado senate race they voted against the child protection act and has been awarded a 100% lifetime rating by planned parenthood. todd young will face the former congressman for indiana's open senate seat. todd young has a 100% voting right record while baron hill has a mixed record on abortion.
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including votes to continue funding planned parenthood. the nation's largest abortion provider. in missouri, the pro-life leader in the senate is facing the challenge by the secretary of state who had a 100% pro- abortion voting record on the missouri house of representatives. and finally, in iowa the pro-life senator chuck grassley, chairman of the senate judiciary committee, is facing a challenge by pro- abortion former lieutenant governor patty judge. senator grassley has a 100% voting record while patty judge is so extreme on abortion that she supported by emily's list and planned parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider. [applause]
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as you can see, there's a lot at stake for babies and their moms in the senate in 2016. moving on to the house of representatives, if you look at the screen you will see the current list of the competitive house races. democrats need a net gain of only 30 seats to take pro- abortion control of the u.s. house of representatives. the battle for the majority control of the senate and the u.s. house of representatives will have sweeping implications for the future of the pro-life movement. the pro-life republican majorities will be devastating to the life issues. i began this morning by talking about history and the importance oof theimportance of reflectingn where we have been so as not to repeat the mistakes of the past. the radical idea in the 17
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hundreds that we all woul all we to equal right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness carries us through our actions today. but today we make history of our own. today we make choices for future generations to reflect upon. while they look back in 300 years of our choices and stay silent in the face of evil? will they admired the diligence protecting the weak and vulnerable will they wonder why we didn't do more. we will do all we can. [applause] we will fight with our last breath for those who cannot
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speak for themselves as long as there is a injustice in abortion there will be those of us could stand against it and work to protect all of our unborn brothers and sisters. abortion is the ultimate human discrimination and we will not stay silent. [applause] the late auschwitz survivor told us to remain silent and in different. every battle of the soldiers and every soldier needs the marching orders. do not stay silent. do not allow fear to guide your
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thank you, karen. now i would like to present to you for the next. he gives us information in a slideshow also, and as many of you know he was a professor of mathematics and he understands these figures and they are very important to us to understand because they tell us how we can succeed and what's happening out there. doctor david o'steen. [applause]
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to do th the world according tos good pleasure, you shine as lights in the world holding force. you shine as lights in the world holding forth the word of life. those words written almost 2,000 years ago by st. paul he was inspired to write have described and spoken to and spoken about many, many good women through the ages who have fallen against evil. and certainly there are no people today. they more aptly described and think about the new shining light in the world holding force world of light and you have had success. you've heard about the challenges facing us right now
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but lets reflect for a moment on what you have done. there are fewer babies killed today annually in the united states than at the height of the epidemic. [applause] think of the blessings you have, how many people have actually saved a life and through your work, sacrifice, faith, you are saving lives. today when you go home despite having the administration against us in the billion-dollar year abortion called planned parenthood we are continuing to make progress. four more states banned dismemberment abortion. [applause]
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two more states stopped abortion when the baby could feel pain. the forces are reveling in the victory that they have in the supreme court. they are energized and they plan to move forward and have said before they hide behind the judges. they don't elect legislators. think what they want. it says something. they won the right to operate the clinic's so shabby they can't meet the standards of the surgical centers. they won the right to have so-called doctors who are so bad they can't get admitting privileges in the hospital. what a great victory we've got
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to share these. that is the pro- abortion movement. but they are so energized they think they are going to defeat us this year because they believe there should be, and they do, they say this, more abortion clinics and you have been making abortion rare. there's a million kids a year still buying. but you have been i don't know, hillary clinton isn't happy, bill said he wanted abortion rare, hope he's happy. we are trying to do it. now they mentioned taking away the amendment and we want to
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talk a little bit about that. they think you are going to use our tax dollars to pay for abortions. you are already getting hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars annually anyway but they wanted directly to pay for abortion. we are going to stop them. as i said, before those that have had the pleasure to meet with before here, they've never, ever had the majority for what they stand for unfettered abortion on demand for any reason in any stage of pregnancy that using your tax dollars to pay for if they've never had that, they don't have it today. that's why they don't elect legislators. it's no accident to see the
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representatives which is the most representative branch of the federal government has year in and year out had a pro-life majority and now i'm going to -- she mentioned that there would be numbers i want to show you why. do you think abortion should be illegal in all circumstances legal in most circumstances or under any circumstance. notice 56% of the population believes abortion should be never allow only allowed in a few circumstances. and only 29% sides with emily's list planned parenthood position. the next poll shows essentially
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the same result taken this march and i only put up to show you several like this to help validate the first taken by cnn. 54% think it should only be legal in a few circumstances and only 29% agree agreed with the position of planned parenthood. the next with respect to the issue if you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life. on these labels i want to explore this a little further issues 46% adopting the label pro-life and 47% adopting the label pro-choice. but when you probe many of the
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pro-choicers don't know if knowt label means according to planned parenthood, emily's list. the next slide please see 57% of the population should be to save the life of the mother or in cases of rape and in test. only 20% of the population would allow abortion after the first three months of the pregnancy or any time during. 24% of the population would allow it in the first three months. when you cross tab of this, you do find that this is among the self id pro-choice 44% of them
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would only allow abortion in the first months of pregnancy meaning they would support the pain capable child protection act. during the candidates running with emily's list and with planned parenthood they have to pledge. they keep a lock on them just like this. they have to pledge against the child protection act and they have to pledge in favor of dismemberment abortions are my arm and leg by leg of life in the womb to use the tax dollars to pay for abortion. according to this, they have 42% of the population agreeing in that position, so it is important for the pro-life candidates to not allow this election to be decided on labe labels. they have to make sure they understand that their opponent
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is so extreme that they are very in any reasonably and pregnancy they think it is perfectly okay to kill a kid who feels the pain of abortion by pulling off its arms and legs while it is alive and they want to use your tax dollars to pay for it. that is the position. so it's important the pro-life candidate articulate bat and on the question of using tax dollars for abortion if they want to make that a campaign issue this year bring it on. 49% of pro-choicers use your dollars to pay for abortion. so, let's make that issue this year. next slide. thinking about the abortion
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issue, a does the candidates hae to agree with your position? 20% of the population says the candidate must share their view on abortion. 49% says it is one of the important factors. i'm going to look at what i call the hard life increments. the single issue voter. next slide. 20% say the candidate must agree with their position on abortion. that's 23% of the pro-lifers and 17% of the pro-choice. next slide. when you do the math in other words you take the percentage of the pro-life and the percentage of people that self id you find 10.5% of the population are one
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pro-life and the candidate has to agree with their position on abortion, 8% say they are pro-choice and to say the candidate has to agree with their position on abortion and that has to give an increments. that is consistent with what we have had going back to 1994 if told you before if the candidate is going to lose by 69 points the pro-life movement can't put it at the top of most is my point or two. if we don't need the 20 million we don't need the billion. we will talk about what we do need that if we have the resources to reach the pro-life people, we can provide an edge. we have election after election and that's what we are going to need.
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let me show you where we stand in the senate races. we will show you the closest one. remember we have more of the good guys up and the others. than the others. in arizona here is three polls showing mccain leading between two and nine points. the next state i want to look at in florida this is where senator rubio came in a scene three since then and this is putting him against the person that seems to be leading from the democratic nomination. congressman grayson may lead to this and do better against him. he is substantially in one and
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murphy leading by one. we have to keep in florida a big expensive state. in iowa, grassley ahead by seven we can't take this one for granted. in new hampshire, winning by two and losing in two, tough race. next slide, north carolina always competitive. we usually win and have to do everything. look at the polls ahead by one point and it is always a close state. in ohio can you get any closer than that? europe by one and down by one.
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a big expensive state. pennsylvania last three up by one, up by one. this is all in the margin of error. finally in wisconsin, we are trailing. we are trailing against someone that voted against every chance he had in favor of pulling children out of the womb alive, stabbing them in the head and suctioning out their brains in a partial-birth abortion. ..
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it has been a discouraging your dollars from people that would donate are among 17 candidates in the republican primary and it has been discouraging to some people. we half to win the races and you to do a couple of things. number one, please come and every dollar counts would you please contribute anything you can. the think about your expendable funds. in jamaica cash contribution with national of right-to-life.
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and as we have people passing baskets and if you can right now give us a call. and the thing that you can give. you have to get that pro-life increment. then i want you to do something else. we have to get that piece of paper passed out with this. pro-life 2016.com i don't only want you to go there to donate it any time between now and the election.
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how many if you are on facebook? how many head you tweak or use e-mail? to you have friends? [laughter] i have a thousand friends. i have 15 or 16. you can do this. if you are told to put this on your facebook page you can do that could do all tweet this out? please give to the pro-life candidates. can you e-mail it to your friends?
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to reach thousands of people. so please please do that to help us. and to pass out the pro life literature. we will ask you to speak and have a tremendous challenge in front of us. and we are not guaranteed to win every victory this year. we do more than any pro-abortion a spot we would. been there is a professor from a neighboring university that he would debate and was funny and
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>> thank you. i have never ben prouder a great job presenting the case so thank-you end ago fourth and take on the forces of want to say evil but i think it is because i cannot and imagine a greater evil in the world the and killing a helpless little baby. you have a great job and go forth and do it. [applause]
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forcing students like me to take vice pensive student loans i have an interest read -- interest-rate a 6.8% i get a car loan at 1%. are they willing to do mitigates that and express concern for that situation. we have the polarization in the united states of america as said by g.o.p. leaders in the blogging sphere it doesn't matter who was president we would get more of the same. no issue is so extreme that we're told it cannot be solved with every think of the other side it will go so far to the extreme it will
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here to talk about the death penalty that i cannot imagine a better group. to my mind the leading death penalty litigants in the country and have been for a number of years. to travel throughout the country to bring these cases to fight in the supreme court a couple of weeks ago.y ws that was my first class on the death penalty so you have a right to be there with them. >> with the texas public policy center and the costa of that criminal-justice cas
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system and a conservative case for limits on mandatory minimums but as much as a of tex on investment and graduated from the university of texas with a very prominent judge so it is a delight to have both the fuselage just start what is going on with the death penalty right now? if we talk about numbers ofnot sentences in the nineties it was a the three hundreds the death sentences imposed in the 50 states from 1994 if
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you look last year in 73 of much fewer people are getting sentenced to theen death penalty and then the numbers are even more8 striking that it is three times less from 1999 and then just one recent year and then compare it to the 1990's. so there have been 14 executions so far and it isn't just the number of executions but it only occurs in a few places that they are doing sentencing toxecs carry out this execution in the last five years.
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>> has spent five states tex florida misery georgia and alabama the in some states and the human rights focus where you think of the vanguard of criminal justice that is a lot their virtue talk about for what you think is going on. >> and it has been a very marked decline the guy down into the 200 gore though one hundreds it is out like ofn rock but what is interesting cahow today many never get the death penalty these
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other people being executed today. so with this old generation of people by today's standard:july 14 they will execute a fellow one of two drunks in a fight he hit the other up in the head with a whiskey bottle and he died the easily could have been the other way around. that would never even be a death case today to say we will kill him and a few weeks. that is one of the irony is because the other states have repealed the death one penalty and one of the largest states by judicial decision bnd execution that i've taken place 80% are in the south. of the
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it is one of the most to percent of that county over half of those death sentences. that accounts for the half of the executions of those 300 counties we have the united states paris county texas has executed 1921 people that is more than any other state except texasnly two itself and all the two otherove0 states have executed over 100 people but nobody has executed as many as harris county it is the haunt -- a handful of counties harris
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county is the ticket -- executed quite quickly and t to the prosecutor is. to say how could there be that many? if you were a prosecutor that johnny holmes was to find those lawyers setters so incompetent that the defense lawyers fell asleep the you put them together you can sense give the person the equally bad lawyer to represent them in the appellate process. >> your generous in your introduction because she didtexd
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mention the course my mind he is here who is a houston but things are changing.omes to texas really isn't the leader with members of death row. but the last execution edbrown was 2006 and he waited 23 years before he was executed. but the point is just waiting all the time because these individuals are automatically place their id we have the texas prison guard association to say we want to end the practice because it did dangers as.n fore they have to take that person for about one hour a day.
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but they have to take them to go get something to each.e od and second to freedom is another word for nothing left to lose. so it is the nightmare that only for the individuals but the prison guards from the other inmates. >> so what accounts for that striking drop? with that representation from harris county if it isn't so good? getting >> is that getting built -- better elsewhere to block the executions? what is going on? reported the biggest factors is exoneration 156 peoplee
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that were sentenced to death later to be found to be inbo robe and that is sobering. in texas last week i think was to be executed literally right on the verge to be convicted of shaking his baby to death.cent. now they believe he is completely innocent so it appears he will long bei executed if it is as close as it gets there is a great books to want to read it who is almost surely in the seven executed by the state is oneas. but the improvement in two states.the
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toere are not represented and the results and imposed since march of 2014 and fromiods virginia those are just two death sentences from never do well all drug addicted alcoholics. and the lawyers that were doing it for the money to have been people say this isey e all they do so they know what they're doing and in that profession the idea
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that any lawyer off the ca street it is like saying ago to the airport so i just fly the 747 back to atlanta myself. >> and they would get $2,000 te do the of homicide case. >> to have the referenced test to have to go to the judge. one out but you say the 156 that is one at a than. but they are concerned about the death penalty but even if you like that from the in perspective but almost we'rean
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not executing anyone it becomes practical if nothing else we have a bunch of different things going on.out we will break this off so they do have of a limit of a capital case a very low number.00. >> and reasonably $1,000 and if anybody is the number of wa the bar one of your duties was to represent. so you're doing a real-estate lawyer in doing title searches we have a
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case for you could be burglary or something else.hat y people have told me from the very first trial and that was the very first case inh the federal courts threw out when they came back he appointed the same lawyer but to say 15 years later be be learned something in the meantime but that is the cavalier attitude of the lawyers appointed to represent people in thesee>> stw cases. >>. >> it is called the death penalty not for the worst crime before the worst lawyer. so let's assume of these death penalty cases that they had excellent lawyers.u
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>> i know it is a hard thing but give us the sense that would not have spent imposed with excellent representation? >> o.at with lawyers know what they're doing with a pleaa bargain the prosecutors knew if they went to a new trial that there is another factor in the decline it is the draconian sense that thehe jury in georgia would say when to read it out he would say i can't tell you but now they're told to have threethe dh choices death penalty life without parole or life in prison without parole or life with parole and of course, it is to go over that little compromise so
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ifday a prosecutor with the advantage says if you are up against said good lawyer you will spend time and money and resources but i think the capital fender learn to do to create the momentum had a time to resolve the cases with the bargains and not risk the time. >> so we talked about effective representation in the people that werenow exonerated reynaud your center is calling for betterng teeeight testing data stand s it is just a very small number of rigs operations?
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hands what is the mechanisms we want as a society beside >> onect of representation what should vb doing? >> the lot of people's memory is not perfect and then they do the lineup since a suggested way with number re labs should be independent but we have a number that i would say that are very improper from some of these labs with testing is intentionally doctoringue an evidence so you can speak toh this issue even better but there are certain proceduralto e barriers to get in front of the appeals court's sole end texas rehab at michael
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martin casey was convicted for murdering his wife and 26 years he was in a texas prison he had to wait six years for a the prosecutor and district attorney and they had actions taken in one had to leave the country to find work.bottom but the bottom line is and have you ben imprisoned? and what has become an activist. that prosecutors have to turn over this evidence and we will try to straighten this. and as prosecutors withheld that evidence recently from
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the grand if jury process including the exculpatoryry information. >> i hiller all sorts of different things as they incarcerate for the appeals process. and the fact they can put in solitary confinement ended is a moral issue to look at specific examples if they serve paul life sentence in ot prison.
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and in the end that is a great question. wh and with government as a whole with a number of cases of prosecutorial abuse i am sure there were some of african-american people that supported the death penalty is ynot those implications. but what is interesting is yes it is dire because it is the death penalty but not everybody will be perfectly candid but ultimately you're not willing to impose that.ement
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ended down rights groups. that we victimizes the victims with the case from the supreme court 28 years old now we go back and retryhich that isn't good for anybody or the victim's family that is a factor and to be hot off the press does the regarded newspaper. to do some excellent work legally executed three people this toch time the to
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cost 252 billion for each execution. that is three people over time period there today, lot of people a matter how they reay feel that is not a great expenditure when we haveen schools that need funding and so many others that could be spending the money but frankly iac people from all kinds of cases we spent a huge amount of money around the cases to make sure we are not convicting innocent people.
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there was a california study that said between 2008 and 2011 they spent $4 billion of the death penalty. >> i am not sure that measure would pass last time if there was a vicious tartu det comprehend. >> ganda cost-benefit of what we could be spendingother money on. >> every death penalty notreme on the streets but the new president for some of thesethat
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cost that we were inin currently owned is currently incurring with the death penalty. >> budget nowhere near theecause enormity but if you do au are do write so the prosecutor doesn't have to seek the death penalty there like other criminal cases there is no penalty phase.t >> nab counterintuitivee because reduced enchilada ofre s except -- on the deathth penalty but if we got rid of it we will have less justice instead of more to allocate those resources and fight
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the of life without parole cases? >> that is a tough questionn because one of the ironies that ic is someone does aet all terrible crime then they get all the of lawyers and social workers and investigators they may not be guilty of the armed robbery they have one single public defender there is nogettu question that summer getting better representation but to put them into the armed robbery case but co-counsel has an investigator we can do a better job with the most fundamentaluilty from responsibility to separate the guilty from the in the
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sense we are failing.h >> if they were freed up then what would the impact ha be? you can argue more people sentenced to prison but when the push for legislation we don't have enough manpower to d and likewise for someone who has substance abuse or mental illness so they would just plead even if they should be in the criminal-justice entirely. has in the neighlished neighborhood to argue have been more prosecutors tohe divert. >> what about the of pharmaceutical industry to
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say pfizer has announced it will block access to its strokes with lethal injection in protocolg following of whether companies have done and now the courts are reviewing that protocol is that what is going on? >> of course, you talk about the solution from 1976 i thought maybe john lennon was a good place to start. [laughter] but they can choose which netted day want but i think the other issue is the state attorney general to exemptfr all of this from public records you cannot get the freedom of information request and of
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course, everybody sees what happened so i don't blame them mostly european drug worr companies to provideul something to kill someonereatina did united states so it is creating a strained and nowew the reaction is to shield that from the public view. >> that tactic they're all these problems with drugs and the people that carried out so the answer makes it a secret so nobody knows what is going on so they are not reliable for a person's death the person that they're doing this really
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shouldn't it is all secret much to my disappointment have allowed it to remain secret the other thing on the firing squad to say we are kidding ourselves by pretending that killing she live beings is a medical procedure that should be healing people to use drugs to you heal people and that we sanitize that execution by have been lethalnitizing the injection is a failure he says bring back the firing squad we have people that were trained as a sharpshooter they'll shoot at the same time it is quick it is painless you don't have any of the problems but
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we have lots of problems with lethal injection of lot of problems the people not dying or flopping around before they die. but back to the drug companies id if you went to the firing squad that wouldo be the end of the death >> penalty but no other state does that even in utah everybody gets upset but they make a point if you're going to kill them then podium to what you we're doing. you are killing them but back to the drugs now they probably would not give the department of corrections to carry out diesel injection not all are there yet but they will eventually but
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that is judged by the eighth circuit maybe nothing more than a high-school all chemistry class where the compound being pharmacies for they mix it up for you then your even tease will inject that into the people and kill them without during a problem that is what we'ree going to if it isn't regulated and did churchill is just getting ready to execute someone when someone that said the drugs were cloudy and to they appeared to be contaminated.
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they thought they had the right drug with a compound pharmacy if they would have rejected the other guy would have killed him so on the ground for this is happening we're not dealing with the best medical people of lot of doctors will have anything to do it said some real use the at&t store people like that is all done in secret and that is too bad in my opinion in georgia we're about to kill this man will be the number 12 over the last two years they've
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been able to pull off all of the execution. >> but one of bomb will go terribly wrong to cite the one who didn't die egis kept falling down and floppingid note around. >> so for both of you what is going on with the secrecy to carry out of the punishment? that is different of books that i never thought i would praise that is legible you could understand that is a the verbal inflection but how executions in industrial town square and there were respectable but prisons through the center of the city's and were a warning to people but now we do that bid by a local time and the access tells what is happening is that it
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classified what accounts for that trend? and they're afraid of being acco embarrassed? >> the states are worried if they were with the drug company with it is one of the core principles and operations of the government and i think that is tory some exempt gain this area along from freedom of information but the broader issue out of sight and out of mind reseeded since texas bcf from the highway bill videos the condition right now is about 130 degrees.
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they are not air-conditioned so we need to focus on solitary confinement and some of the are really horrendous conditions that these individuals arehorrendo confined to and obviously if you have no parole we will be struggling you got rid of the death penalty allowed them to be miserable or have a modicum of humanity. >> when we adopted the deathoupe penalty the supreme court declared it unconstitutional in 1972 there were all these problems they thought by tinkering with the statutes now everything is great it will be fair it is remarkable arrogance to think that because of racism and poverty that doesn't do
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any good at all. it is not the same today as it was of the old days except what you get that for but the debate is timothy mcveigh and that is whate the everybody said of john wayne gacy but if you look at who is on death row there is a tremendous racial disparityfirs well over 50 percent of the murders and those that were there for killing white people. but so many our kids and somebody was killed and that is terrible they had to lock them up there not a death penalty or worse of the
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worse the most of the people of is just alerted the of their debut both have clients that are profoundly mentally ill i been profoundly. they can barely carry on a conversation to say that these people will not take the plea bargain when they can have it because they can make decisions or judgments of the disabled and paranoid schizophrenic so the is its people getting the death penalty not because a society that they don't understand the type of plea where the eric rudolph of the world that look the abortion clinic he consider ideal world latta of dynamite is buried you tell
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me and i will tell you but then they say they agreed river killer in washington that traded the location for a life sentence but the families want to know where the loved ones were and finally he bargained so he avoids the death penalty we had a guy come into court ruth reshoot the judge didit the court reporter in the marshall but he didn't get the death penalty. >> what about the felony murder rule? >> as the getaway driver they have agreed to go rob
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the store but could befor executed if the felony is carried out in the neck course even if you have nothing to do with it you can be tagged as the getaway driver. >> also there should be no criminal intent now this dayp pushed back as it relates to environmental crimes but how this comes up in the sentencing phase whether it is murder or other things still is not to me you cannot get the death penalty for felony murder because you didn't have the intent to kill. >> the way it works to go one step further is veryer often the person at the center of the action was the
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race the white house to get the plea bargain to testify against the others and it is a lovers' triangle.triangle and is punishable by death. but she and her boyfriend decided to kill her husband. cht and to have blood all over him. belloc case against him but for her they had to get the plea deal. he is eligible for parole -- parole but she didn't for vote he she was involved no question certainly should go to present to bring about the death of her husband but she was tied down and put
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has learned over time people that they knew were gay and just like everybody else. very few people had somebody on death row with their family so the case is that we will study we will all cry because it will be the most awful u.s. seed anke not believe the human beings s can do things like this to other people so that makes it very hard politically i think the support is still 60 years 70 percent but it is the abstract with you sit down with 12 jurors to decide to put somebody ton thats death that is why did the number of death sentence is so significant because talk radio will say they pulled
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the arms and legs off the teddy bear that is ridiculous that they would not go into the child's crib and do that but if you talk to the jurors about the whole the person wentrson and wt through at the there is a the excuses or explains it but we are measuring their so beyond redemption that you can say anything is possible we will not forgive them but when it comes to fo punishment we might decide punishment is less eventually we will have the death penalty if they will hold up the longest because
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there are five states and i feel bad of course, the supreme court of the nose but once we find out they will say a penalty that is used at this rarely is really not that unusual. >> another way to look at it is there a groundswell to bring that back? i have not seen that so it was the genie out of the bottle with the traditional marriage so i agree with what you said for a whole host of reasons and on either hand that once it is
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abolished to say we just missed the death penalty so much. and obviously that path would be an issue for those that take the position of what is cruel and rand unusual at the time it was written. before people were tarred and feathered. and the evolving standards of decency. so then they'll look to the execution is that are highly relevant.lot of origina and with that objectivity to make those evaluations. >> and the two basic groups
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to get rid of the prohibition in a judicial. and it is said to a possible. and go back sliding but it is harder it is harder to imagine to see action and i believe that the current u.s. supreme court will be a vote to get rid of the death penalty. that is my view i seek justice kennedy has a very heartfelt to view the ofin like decency and read a have no expertise but they do and know how the system istencing implemented in the execution that happens why is it that
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the support urban dash supreme court said they see the system date id and day out that is why you see them at the end of their lives regardless of their political party come out against the death penalty so the current court those that are appointed by democratic presidents with a solid votes is even justice kennedy even judge garland after all was with a the prosecutors in the oklahomaa city bombing case with those federal execution and sete were carried out we will see but it is my view they should be under the eighth amendment. >> a feedback said death
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penalty is a very damage period and a lot of people realize that even prosecutors in the deep south they think it will be gone if you years that'd is inevitable nobody really says to expand the deathex penalty but how we get there i think with these legislative committees to abolish the death penalty it is and that there is a to a groundswell of support the political career will be over that is cleaned up the government. >> other questions?
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>> what i your thoughts to put money into rehabilitation and remove the death sentences have a life sentences? the >> kit was streaky even though some have the most serious offenses the minimum was 15 years but what is similar to what we do to our commitments that could we is for violent offenders but the use as sparingly bed with us if we had it would it be used? but psychiatrists and psychologists they are screened and of course, itth isn't just the of prisons themselves but the detention center of the same premises you have tremendous freedom
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in the heavyweight with that big restriction so that is how they have chosen to approach that and dead juvenile life without parole or juvenile life period so that does provide a sample of we could do. >> one last question. >> qc in the future the abolishing life is imprisoned with the up possibility of parole? >> i will say kravis say before you have the death
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penalty did you give it to everybody because they were afraid if you had it but then at that point we will see life without parole is terrible because now we give all of these parolees no hope whatsoever they sent it say don't send me that. this is not good correctional policy because so many are so young. 8419 or 20 years old. you will die in this institution. but as long as we have the death penalty to get rid of
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mr. cornyn: last thursday night, hundreds gathered in downtown hundreds gathered in downtown >> last thursday night hundreds gathered to engage in a peaceful protest dozens were on hand to make sure that they could exercise their rights under the firstppep amendment to united states constitution may sent pictures of themselves to show harmony to underscore that peaceful nature but allunmn this was shattered as the gunman opened fire in a w targeted and senseless and that vicious attack it was made clear early that the attackers goal was to kill as many police officers as possible to make a catch -- calculated effort to do just apropos.las
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>> today the country grieves of from the dallas police department who lost for of their own while protecting a community that night. line to do what they will be called to do as they put their lives on the line some gave their lives and other stranger to it dash is second only be described as heroic they were worthy of a badge that they wore and it makes me proud to be a texan they could turn around and run away they could give up
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to decide that their lives were more important than those they vow to protect but they didn't. that is not who they are. in fact, they ran to the sound of good shots to protect the community they serve. gunfire the dallas police chief recounted that many rand out knowing they were making themselves targets to get the injured officers to safety and medical help they used their own bodies to help shield the protesters dalls who would flee in terror. that is what the men and women of the dallas police force are made of tin were unfairly encourage to save a the are indebted to them is an understatement i want to
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take each and everyone who did not hesitate to to put it on the line to protect the people of dallas so today and tomorrow the president comes our country will more and though whole dallas community we grieve for the first officer that was killed officer thompson was of a newlywed who married a fellow officer a few weeks ago. we grieve for the loss of an officer who leaves behind a wife and son it its year-old daughter after three tours and iraq. and the family and friendsd. of the three other officers that were killed and offer our prayers for those that
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were wounded including a in woman that happen to be an african-american shot in the lake well as trying to shield her sons from the were bullets. we pray for her and other officers that were shot and survived have a long road of recovery. said manchin the race of the woman that was shot to underscore while he said he intended to kill white police officers his actions did not discriminate based on race everybody that night was a target in his line of sight this is a national enforct tragedy a staple of law enforcement since then 11.to hon >> former president bush to
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honor the lives of those that we lost for peace for the city in for our country. while this should not take any event like this to jolt our conscious we have to figure more ways to support the public service that enforces the rule of law to protect our communities the way we could do that to introdud support and trading for law enforcement like legislation called the police act thatll passed the senate pursue act unanimously for them to pursue active shooter treaty and we have learned a the hard way that if they run to the gunshot we can save lives while endangering the lives of the police officers and teaching in the active shooter practice but they
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can minimize their own exposure to save more lives the hope the house will pass this legislation soon to send it to the president's desk i also notice the contribution from central texas "john carter" bruce promotes the legislation in the house it is clear we don't have all the answers say and that goes without sayingeree that we can make a difference if we try i willen plan and introducing other legislation soon that helps give law-enforcement to what goes control center initially target officers to give additional authorities to the officers to help them better defend the public can our themselves so as we continue to grief in say our prayers don't forget to support law enforcement so they can
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better protect and defend our communities they deserve our utmost respect for theun irreplaceable role they play in our communities. tragedy the law officers loss last week were killed and injured for doing their job keeping the communityo safe to -- and shot while protecting those protesters to express their free speech they run not responsible forf any of their real or perceived injustices thatge occur due to other parts ofwi the country but there were targeted by a twisted and demented mind lost his old life in pursuit of this terrible crime. so there is no oives.
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justification for the taking of these lives as our country continues to grieve i believe tarnation is in desperate need the american family has a whole needs to come to the same table that each of us talking to each other of the challenges we have seen over last week a challenging weaken america's history without any question.icans a a challenging time period without question. protester riots are challenges we haven't seen a long time to states occurred here today we're at a
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crossroads for nation is experiencing turmoil we have not seen isurmoil a generations, decades that is all around the country my heart breaks for all of us. this week on this floor i will give a series of speeches in hopes of eliminating some of these issues before us as well as what i believe are essential steps to closing the wounds that are open and others have never healed. in other words, madam president, there are wounds that have existed for more than a generation and it is time for the american family to work together to heal some of these wounds.riday, deen deepen the heart of texas we
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saw the best of the worst of humanity. only in america of could use the police officers along side protesters who were protesting the policehis brutality. and if you take a step back in just pitcher for a moment here is the scene of policecting officers protecting prote protesters who were protesting police brutality and in this picture read elsie tension or animosity animosity, we see smiles and police officers working and taking pictures and making sure that everyone was
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having the appropriate time even that enjoyable experience with law-enforcement but then the t shots rang police went very quickly to protect those shots protesters and they helped police identify where the shots were coming from.xact somehow at the exact same time, dallas came to gather was torn apart and what appears to be one man retribution was his answer to frustration and his hate left five police officers said and seven othersir wanted. we continue to mourn for them and their families
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today mr. president but we must not become a society where revenge is the rule of the day our nation is dependent on the rule of law and to enforce the law of the honest hard-working men and women to take up the shield for the overwhelming majority of cops. is in the fashion of romans 13 to speak clearly that government officials wearing a sward can be ministers in other words, , sharing the love and affection and appreciation for those that they guard and having the ability to provide punishment when necessary.ho
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very low wage all over the country who see their jobs as the calling and so many, the vast majority do well law-enforcement officers simply want to do two things mr. president mr. president, protect and serve. we cannot allow the actions of a feud to overwhelm the good of the majority. a one to share just a few stories to put in place or put it into focus the sacrifice and the commitment that so many officers exhibit every single day throughout our nation but my first is the story of the young lady named chile and a young african-american female police officer from
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just west of dallas and arlington texas december 2010 officers a responded to a domestic violence situation she arrived and that the 11 year-old beautiful girl and -- her mother i will stop for a moment just to give you the fax so officer smith shows up to make sure that the folks who called were safe the people that called were the 11 year-old girl and her mother who were filler fearful that the mother's boyfriend richer what and do something dangerous and dangerous he did do something incredibly brutal.
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officer smith hearing gunfire in an instant jumped on top of the body of the 11 year-old it as the bullets rainout, she kept herself on top of the 11 year-old girl. the girlfriend's boyfriend would end up killing the before mother and then killing himself before he did he killed officer smith.d but without a second's thought officer smith did what so many officers do those instinctively, up protectosed. those who expose to officer
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smith a true american hero gave her life, gave her life to protect the life of an 11 year-old girl she had never doo. met for knocking on that door. then-president this story and others are not unusual they just want to serve them protect we saw the same heroism last friday evening as told by miss taylor who was at the protest she was there exercising her first official act to amend the sniper started shooting for
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lack of a better word freaked out and ran to cover her one son and before she knew it her account of thend her situation there was the cop covering her and her son and then another cop she in the midst of the sniper shootingnded that cop, found herself surrounded and covered by a police officers. just doing her job risking their life for this mother and her son.
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what a picture the sniper is the worst of america. just ask claire.y goo there is a very good point to discuss what happened. she said these of the people you call when you are in aoing situation where read going to do if they stop policing? tad let me ask the of question that she asked one more time what are re going to do ifou they stop policing? who are you going to call?
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these are the stories that should give us faith in a law-enforcement. solutio so while we certainly have issues that demand solutions that i have had issues with law-enforcement that i will share in my next speech on o wednesday and will be giving three in this is the first the next one i will talknc about some of the issues that so many have experienced but this is a moment in time when we need to stop the camera can focus on the fax that our law enforcement officers are true american in hero's. if you're looking for heok for wrote public educators or sports or congress probably not the right place but our
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men and women who wear a uniform, they are real american hero is they they think south carolina officers like grey toon gave his life last year in colombia's south carolina. officers like alan jacobs gave his life in greenville south carolina and in charleston joe was killed by a man shooting through a slu door the body was leftover and my mentor that i have spoken about for so long and my brother from another
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mother was the first deputy on the seed to drag the lifeless body of his friend friend, his colleague from that door trying to do getm's that body completely at of harm's way. as i said sheriff's deputies and police officers, those are our heroes. we should focus on that. we must come together we must find solutions to the basket to a point where the american family, our family
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