import that they have and he can firm what indeed consistently the former secretary had told the cabinet that the russians and the french in particular had tried to get explicit reference into revolution 1441 to the need for a second resolution before any military action can be undertaken, even though what 1441 i've got that huge words which is a final opportunity to comply if saddam did not comply. there were discussions with security council and we're told that this legal advisor told those discussions were exhausted and were very strong attempt was made to insist the second reference resolution was carried but in the end the russians and french accepted the second revolution was not referred to

and the resolution was carried unanimously in a fight recall correctly the vote of the syrian government which was a remarkable circumstance. the accusation have also been made in all of these discussions that the attempt to get saddam hussein to come forward the un resolution was in some way force that there is no intention, no risk for saddam hussein to conform, that that the intention from the beginning was this reaction. i wanted to mention with the former secretary. the then prime minister repeatedly warned the covenant that if saddam hussein did indeed choose to comply with the un resolution, he stayed. and reminded that that in itself would be an outcome that many at least for many in this house who campaigned on behalf of the kurds would deplore and would regret. but but it was repeatedly pointed out, if

saddam comply, no no military action, he stayed in power. >> i want to point out the fact that in the report he quotes the head telling penny blair that the u.s. would literally setting the bar and i quote here so high that saddam hussein would be unable to comply. so this idea when tony blair was in the house of commons on the day of the vote that it was still going to be a case some house first it on to comply that there was still time it simply wasn't. very told that the bar was set too high. >> i except, i know that. and i know i recall quite some time before because it was not in place at the time we are speaking of.

and i except that it was very difficult but if saddam had showed any intention of complying and given any -- when for example there is a series of tests that saddam could read whether or not he was complying it was rejected by the french by the way and also by saddam. so, that is not where we are, there was indeed a warning. saddam complained military action would not occur. >> so that was the original four-point series of accusations. but that original story now further accusations, one coming from which was actually taken when it was not a matter of last resort. a second, and we could've held that longer on the matter could've been addressed by

inspections in the third that the event would've taken place in the middle east and all our results of the invasion and consequently that to should them the consequences of all of us who voted for the invasion. on the question of whether not it was a last resort. it was a point also made by my honorable friend robin cook. those who make that case press their arguments on the continued effectiveness of containment by sanction. but 11 of the things that nobody seems to mention anymore is that at this time it was very widely and seriously believe that containment was weakening. that containment was noneffective and certainly anyone who is around and cast their minds they will recall that there is an enormous

campaign against the sanctions which were helping to keep in place the hoped-for containment. in fact many honorable members here will recall the protest to take place on a continual basis across the road on parliament square. i think everybody is forgotten it is not about the protest of dance the war it was the protest against the sanctions on saddam hussein and to be fair to the people who undertook it. on an understandable basis because saddam was stealing the money that was being given to field feed the iraqi people and use it for his own country. so there was hardship in iraq. so it was understandable that people should be against the sanction on that basis, but they were on the campaign against it and it was itself good. >> dish you fully understand the

significance of chapter 20 and the executive summary which says quite clearly that this was not a last resort. now the importance of that is that it's absolutely fundamental to the definition of a just war. if we accept that assertion the collaborate was this was not a just war with all the consequences that followed. so all of this volumes of stuff, in the summary that bangs up a lot. >> i'm not actually a lawyer but i do not think it was a military or legal concept. i do understand it in those terms. apart from the question of whether or not this was a last

resort, can i also say on the matter of containment, that, that after the invasion, evidence was found that indeed saddam hussein had been in breach of resolution more than we had understood at the time of the invasion, a breach which we are unaware for example we are unaware when and that impression was that containment was working. but which had been being forgiven so that -- in which people were not aware and the report they quote in iraq developing ballistic missiles under the security council revolution resolution and he clearly intended to reconstitute long-range delivery systems in those systems potentially were weapons of mass destruction. so it it is not a simple matter. containment was working, saddam hussein was not trying to take

things forward in terms of weapons development. as we discovered the invasion what had taken place. the second point on this is the argument that we could've held off. there have to say, i have to accept the verdict. it was not impossible, again a difficulty to which nobody now touches. the circumstances by which by then everyone found themselves. we have troops in very difficult, and incredibly dangerous circumstances. troops who are expecting hourly, daily attacks by which everyone believed saddam on transit on

hussein had and would use. so there is no need if you're going to take action you have to start military preparation. at that point the preparations had advanced to such an extent that our troops wearing clear danger. ultimately we could argue no doubt people will, those troops could have been withdrawn. what kind of signal with that have been too saddam hussein. seems to me it would have given saddam hussein although he was partly free to continue the operations he had in the past. whether against the kurds are as he had done against iran. so these things are not so simple as it is sometimes assumed. although i completely accept the argument made that one of the lessons we should learn is that we should be wary of letting military concerns drive political decisions. that that brings me back to my principal thesis which is there is much in

the report which we could learn but only if we don't divert ourselves into what the report is not say. that brings me to the final issue that i want to address. the final accusation if you like which is the accusation that everything that is happened in iraq across the middle east since have all flowed from the invasion of iraq and because of this miscalculation and they call it the worst foreign policy mistake. i don't necessarily say was, but let's accept his premise. but i don't think he argues and i don't accept that everything terrible that is happening now or has happened since in the middle east is as a result of that invasion. i think it is grossly irresponsible in order for people to satisfy their clear

very real anger and passion that people feel against the government, against the prime minister, it is irresponsible to say to the evil men of isil, or al qaeda that they are off the hook for the blame for any of the terrible things they do because it is all our fault. and people are making noise at us because we all know that is exactly the kind of assertion that very many people would make. or the mistakes of the west it's all about the evil of the west and everybody else is absolved. nobody should be absolved from responsibility for the things they themselves advocate or they themselves do. i do not seek to resolve the responsibility i exercise when i voted for the iraq war. i regret for that is any

sensible person would but i do not pretend that the decision i made was not my decision and it was somehow all somebody else's fault. >> i had a rough upbringing and i got involved in the streets and they are selling drugs so is like the thing to do. i started selling drugs : marijuana, some tabs and then cocaine and crack cocaine came out we started selling that so i was industries from 13-18 years old, five years. >> he talks about his former life of as a drug dealer and police officer. >> i criticize police a lot but when i criticize the bad police.

but overwhelmingly majority of cops come in and do their job. but you don't hear about them. you hear about the tamir rice, the cases, you hear about the bad cop some bad policing. and once law enforcement start we know about because every time you see her case you look at the person's background, complaints of use of force,'s five substantiated, the guy was a mess. we don't find out about it until they kill somebody. >> sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. >> sees fans "washington journal", live every day with news and policy that impact you. coming up on thursday morning former senior advisor to the 2012 romney presidential campaign, peter will join us to discuss the 2016 presidential race, the gop platform and the republican party as it has into next week's national convention. we'll talk about donald trump's candidacy in his potential vice

presidential nominees. democratic new jersey congresswoman, bonnie bonnie watson coleman will discuss house democratic efforts to push gun control, the recent violence of police involved shootings, and the 2016 campaign. be sure to watch c-span's "washington journal", beginning live at 7:0y morning. join the discussion. >> in a speech described as a powerful and deeply personal by politicals lewis nelson, republican senator jim scott talked about police relations with african-americans on the senate floor today. he he recounts times he felt he was targeted by police even as a u.s. senator. senator scott was followed by california senator barbara boxer who talked about segregation, please training in the history of race relations in the country. this is about 40 minutes. >> mr. president. >> the center from

self-reliance. >> i arrived today to give my second speech this week discussing the issues we facing as a nation following last it' week's tragedy in dallas, minnesota, and baton rouge. >> this speech is perhaps the most difficult because it is the most personal. on monday, talked about about how the vast majority of our law-enforcement officers have only two things in mind, protect and serve. as i noted then, we do have serious issues that must be resolved. in cities and towns across the nation there is a deep divide between the black community and law-enforcement. a trust gap. a tension that has been growing for decades. as a family, one american family, we cannot ignore these issues. support while so many officers do good,

and we should be thankful, i set on monday we should be very thankful in support of all those officers that do good. some simply do not. i've experienced it myself.gry. so today, i want to to speak about some of those issues. i out of frustration, though at times i have been frustrated. i stand here before you today because i'm seeking for all of us the entire american family to work together so we all experience the lyrics of a song we can hear but not see.ered peace, love and understanding. i shuddered when i heard erice." garner saying, i can't breathe.

i wept when i watched walter scott turn and run away. and get shot and killed. from the back. i broke when i heard the 4-year-old daughter of philando castile daughter tell her mother, it's okay, i am right here with you. brother these are people lost forever. fathers, brothers, sons, some will say and maybe even scream but they have criminal records they sit time in jail. you and while having a record should not sentence you to death i say okay then. i will share with you some of my own experiences or the

experiences of good friends and other professionals. i can surely remember the very first time when i was pulled over by police officer as a youngster. i was driving a car that had an improper headlight and did not work right. the cop came up to my car hand on his gun, and said the boy, don't you know your headlight is not working properly. i felt embarrassed, ashamed, and scared. very scared. but in debt of sharon experience after experience i want to go to a time in my life when i was anb elected official and sheer just a couple of stories as an elected official. but please remember that in the course of one year i have been stopped seven times.

by law enforcement officers. not for, not five, not six, but seven times.t in one year as an elected official. was i speeding sometimes? sure. but the vast majority of therh time i was pulled over for nothing more than drying a new car in the wrong neighborhood, or some other reason just as out trivial. one of the times i remember i was leaving the mall, i took a left out of the mall and as soon as i took a left a police officer pulled in right behind me. that was my first letter. when i got to the another traffic life i took another left into the neighborhood. the police police followed behind me.. i took the third left onto they street that leads are at the time led to my apartment complex. and finally i took a fourth left coming into my apartment complex

and then the blue lights went ue on. the officer approached the car and said, i did not use my turn signal on the fourth term. keep in mind, as you might imagine i was paying very close attention to the law-enforcement officer who followed me on for turns. do you really think. [inaudible] according to him i did.rab another time i was following a friend of mine and we're just left working out where heading . to grab a bite to eat at about 4:00 p.m. he pulls out, i, i plowed right behind them and t were driving down the road. the blue lights come on. officer pulls me into the media and starts telling me that he thinkk perhaps the car stolen. well, i started asking myself because because i was smart