segregationist than we had in virginia. he he could not have done what i did. and i understood that. but i recognize that he was wrong and he could not admit it but he cannot help it. we got along fine. i do not think he was offended by the objective that i lead in virginia, there were some who did. i remember some of the republicans activists who had supported my election in virginia who are very offended because my position on race. but i do not let that bother me either. >> host: there is a story that the washington post had a piece prepared that you were going to be richard nixon's choice to be vice president.

>> guest: i think that was an effort by some of the right-wingers in the nixon administration to embarrass me and the washington post. they leaked the non- facts, it was not affect at all but i think they leaked to the press that holton is going to be selected to succeed as the vice presidency. i have a copy of the headline of the story that carol fitzpatrick wrote saying for the post, holton is the selectee for vice president. but i think it was all a fraud on the part of those people in the administration who wanted to embarrass me in the post. there is no factual basis were whatsoever. and while i was on the shortlist i don't think there is any other serious consideration. i was a freshman governor.

i had some liberal in my makeup, that was not really acceptable to the people who made the decisions in the next and administration. i don't think there is any real chance that i would of been selected. but that was the background for. >> host: what did you think of richard nixon? >> guest: nixon was a friend of mine through a long. of time. i met him while he was vice president under eisenhower. i supported his activities through his retirement as president. he was very capable person, he is very knowledgeable of the opportunities that he had as president. he carried some of them out very nicely such as the over the years china and the development of that relationship. the environmental of the nixon

administration is an admirable activity. the only unfortunate port part about nixon is he didn't have character. and that was very tragic for him and that is what resulted in his resignation. the only president of the united states ever resign because of pressure from doing wrong. >> host: let's talk a moment to talk about tim kane. >> guest: okay that's good. he made reference to you and your wife, where does that name come from? >> jinks was the second of four children in the rogers family. she had the two younger with the twin boys and her name is virginia and the boys as they began to talk could not pronounce virginia and it came

out jinks in their vocabulary and that is what stuck. she is still jinks and has been and will be. >> host: when your daughter and brought tim kane home for the first time, what did you think? spee2 i thought it was great, there's background for that because i visited boston on a business visit once wall and was in law school at harvard and we're standing in the back of a classroom at harvard it was one of the big classrooms that descends to the teacher's desk. she stood in the back of the classroom and pointed to a young man standing at the teacher's desk and said, you see that boy down there at the teacher's desk with curly black hair? yes. he is the one, he does not know it yet. but he's the one. i thought i have competition in

kansas city but i'll take care of that. then she did. she picked him out, she lassoed him, lassoed him, she brought him to virginia and virginia made him governor, now senator, now vice now vice president of the united states. that is a big move. >> guest: he's entitled to all of it, he's a capable person. >> host: when he accepted the nomination what was going through your mind? >> guest: i think mostly the wonderful recognition of his talent and confirmation of the future that i was concerned about. he is going to be part of the leadership that takes over now and hopefully we will continue some of the ideas that jinks, i and my generation had for our experience and we feel very comfortable about the fact that

new leadership represented by people like tim is going to be the right kind of leadership in future. >> host: yet are you still a registered republican? >> guest: fortunately we do not register as party members in virginia. but i am a republican. i do not remember when i voted republican however. i will certainly not vote republican this fall. >> host: you talked about donald trump, what do you think? >> guest: why joined the crowd that calls him a fool. it would be tragic as others have said if he were elected president of the united states. i do not think he will be. >> host: if your daughter becomes second leg of the united states. >> guest: she's not going to be second to anybody. >> host: what was she bring to that division? >> guest: she would bring a

marvelous influence on any who came in contact with her were heard about her. she is smart, she has the right ideas, she is almost magic in her influence on other people. she and tim as a couple are really great folks and they will add a great deal to this ticket and i think very comfortably i think, they will be elected and serve in a way that is most admirable and beneficial to the future of the country. >> host: let me conclude with this question. is there moment in your personal lives or in public careers that epitomizes your thoughts about your son-in-law and your daughter? >> guest: i don't know of any specific time. they're just my whole reaction

to them is that they are wonderful leaders and they're going to be significant in their generation and in their influence on the country. >> host: this expense for you, your wife and your family? what is up in light like the last couple of days? >> guest: it's very exciting. you were in the position our in a retirement home work you need anything all you have to do is point with one exception, the trash barrel has to be taken out every monday morning. i pointed at that damn thing, pointed and pointed and it never moved so you have to do it yourself. other than that, we are very comfortable and watching what happens in the next generation. we are very, very fortunate to be over 90 and in good health. and i think, still mentally capable. but, we observers now and it is

great fun to watch people taking over. >> host: governor holton, thank you for your time, we appreciate it. >> guest: thank you. >> a look outside the wells fargo arena, site of this year's democratic national convention. we spoke with ricky miner who is leading the house band at the convention. >> stage right of the platform is the stage for the ricky miner band. how does one become the bands for the dnc? >> guest: i think i've been in the business a long time and so there are a lot of guys and i got the call a lot of guys who can do this and play music? spee2 how does this differ from some of the other gigs that you do. >> some of the other shows that you two are more generic and

written for that moment. you kind of write for whoever the presenter is. but here there presenters we do not always know and were not good to be told until right before. so it has to be confidential and so they want to a lot of energy. so we just pick some great song

from america songbook. [inaudible] we start at 730, at a pm call and will we finish about 1130 or midnight. and through the day it's rehearsals, run-throughs, and preparing for it all. >> do you have music did you write music for this question marks. >> guest: a lot of the people will send an email saying this particular was this song if you can do it, and you do it. and you have the ricky miner band set up of your right shoulder. take us through the process of getting this equipment hearing getting through security?'s. >> we start a rehearsal in la, l.a., today rehearsal with over 300 songs. and then we get here in the equipment is shipped a week ahead of time so it can go through security. we have a second set of gear sent here and mainly it's the security getting inches like this morning, we come in and there's so many checkpoints you have to go through. i think it is just great. the feeling here is insane. the energy here. i've watched the dnc many times and it is nothing like being here. >> is this this the biggest show you play? >> the biggest show in philadelphia or the world? >> all of your show. >> they are all really big. i think it's very exciting, it's

it's probably one of the most exciting political things that happen in our country and so to be a part of that in any small ways really big. >> how did you get into becoming a bandleader? >> i was playing bass and met this girl was trying to get a record deal named whitney houston. she was 18, is 22 and that is where i got my start. as music director and playing bass wherever. >> along is the ricky miner band been around? >> probably since that time even with whitney we stepped out and did a few things. probably since about 99 we started doing more television. >> the biggest we are here at the dnc is a bandleader? >> the biggest fear is that i call the right to for the right speakers. >> give us an example. >> well i can play "tell her about it" for a guy. a guy. so there's like some of those things. you want to make sure that the tempo is right in some time the

song, because her not singing the song it's just the music, so it's not as important, the content of the lyrics, just about about the energy of the song for the most part. >> and the energy of the crowd as well. >> yes, you want to keep the crowd going then went to play them on was something that has energy when they walk out. they crowd is running every time someone comes up. everyone is really excited to hear would have to say. >> what about when there is between as has happened earlier this week? what is your job as a bandleader when bandleader when that happen. >> that's easy, play louder. >> i can turn it up to 12. >> did you have to do that this week? >> no, i mean you can hear it but we don't hear it as much because were loud. we don't really hear it as much as someone would hear it on television i guess. >> hillary clinton accepting the nomination on thursday night, what are you planning to play when she comes onstage? >> i would tell you but i would have to kill you.

>> i don't want to do that i like you too much. >> ricky miner of the ricky miner band. where can they find if they want to buy more about the ban apollyon? >> just ricky miner, all over the place. twitter, facebook, instagram. >> thank you so much for the time this morning. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> good luck. >> tonight, hillary clinton becomes the first woman to accept a major political parties nomination for president of the united states. with c-span, you have have many convenient options for watching the entire speech without any interruptions. watch her historic acceptance speech live on c-span, listen to it on the c-span radioactive app, listen to it live on your desktop, her acceptance speeches tonight on c-span, c-span radio app, and c-span.org. >> with the democratic convention live on c-span all

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others. watch "washington journal" beginning live at seven eastern on friday morning. join the discussion. >> sheer chuck schumer will head the democratic conference in the senate either as majority leader or as minority leader. he sat down with washington post to discuss chances democrats take a senate majority. >> good afternoon everyone. thank you you for the audience joining us at our dancy headquarters in philadelphia, here at city tap us and to all those watching online and on c-span2. paul king, the congressional correspond with the washable post and i am joined by charles schumer of new york. let's get to the questions. >> ready to roll. >> host: senator, your chairman,

john chester said the other day to me, kinda boastfully about the senate majority, think we're going to get to 51, the question is how anymore. can you say it? are you getting the majority? can you guarantee a. >> guest: note entities, there never are. the odds are more likely than not that we would take back the senate majority. several reasons. one, the electorate. one, the electorate is moving in a democratic direction. people tend to be more progressive, that is what is happening. if you look at the polling data, people are tending to be more democratic than they were four years ago. number two, hispanics know what is going on in the republican party and are voting overwhelming for us. i think the

high was 70% 2008, brock obama, i, brock obama, i think it will be higher. the biggest changes the millennial's. 18 - 35 is going to be the largest age cohort in this electorate even if they voted moderate numbers. they're my kids. they're much more democratic than the electorate as a whole. once or he is out said if you push people democrat or republican, it 42 - 44, republican democrat. millennial's are less decided at 37 - 22. democrat republican. for reasons - 22. democrat republican. for reasons the millennial's are with us more than others. they are paying for college and the burden of college that once they get out. they sort of realize we're better for that than the republicans. this is an this ascending order of importance, third, they hate the way that we finance campaigns, coke brothers, they note their more on our side. but the top top two interested me the most. number two, they do not like the odor of discrimination even

bigotry in the republican party. anti- day, anti-lgbt, anti-muslim, anti-hispanic, anti-all of this. god bless them. this generation of this. god bless them. this generation was brought up in a much less bigoted generations in our generation. i went to high school, i don't think there is an african-american or hispanic in my high school which had 5000 people. i did not know any people who are gay or lesbian because this was pre-stonewall, nobody, even if they were would say so. this generation has grown up with a far greater diverse group of friends, acquaintances, and they don't like it, they don't like how the republicans are acting, it's against their grain, it's an order that they stick up and at the top of the list interestingly enough is climate change.

the younger voters, even republican younger voters by majority believe the federal government ought to take strong action against global warming. you put those things together, the electorate is shifting to democratic. that is good. secondarily, i think trump trump is going to do very poorly. i think that he has an amazing verbal acuity and he is very good at appealing to let's say our harsher motions, are negative emotions. that works for about one third of the electorate. let's not forget the number of people, their different numbers all over the place but the numbers i have heard our 27,000,000 people voted in the primaries. 14,000,000 republican, 13,000,000. 14 million republican, 13 million democrat, it's more or less that. 130 million will vote in the general election. the people people in the middle who have not voted, they tend to be more fart left on the democratic side and more far right on the republican side. the people in the middle,

trump's appeal is much more limited than to the republican primary voter. that together, that together, things are moving in our direction. at that, sorry to long answer, good map, two democratic democratic seats in jeopardy, anywhere from 8 - 11 republican seats in jeopardy, the odds answer will get back the majority. the one caveat, the coke brothers themselves are pouring a fortune into a good number of our races. i've never seen money like this before. they're putting much, they're not spending in the presidential, they said they're not going to support trump and they're putting all the money here. if they outspend us 3 - one, still win it, if they outspend outspend is 6 - 1 probably still when but the more they spend, not absolutely but ratio was the tougher it is. on the other hand, their records are not as effective as ours

because we have issues on our side. >> host: let's go back to the millennial slow, they have trended more liberal over the years but in the presidential race you've seen a division in the primary where a lot of the millennial's are bernie supporters, this, this week we began especially with a lot of protests from the bernie supporters coming out of this convention, do you have enough unity going forward. >> guest: absolutely. 95% of the bernie supporters will vote for hillary clinton. you guys in the media are great at finding the guy in the funniest hat or gal in the funniest outfit who will say the most outrageous things. one hundred people walk out of the convention, autumn of 1800 of 1800 bernie supporters, it's a new story. a thousand people demonstrated in the streets, those are not, i will tell you, i have good relations with the bernie

supporters and our delegations in new york. the first day they were upset, by now most of them are saying they are voting for hillary. my my prediction, 95 plus% will vote for hillary and more than half will work for hillary. donald trump is strong stronger with the millennial's will push them in our direction. >> host: what we have to destruction going forward what is the connection between the clinton campaign, senate and house races across the map? what you need to do to execute this campaign? >> guest: the good news for us as the hillary battleground state and actually the senate stay where we have the best chance of picking up seats has a great deal of overlap. you look at battleground states whether they be new hampshire, pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin,

florida, nevada, you can go down the list. there's a great deal of overlap and there's a great deal legally with what were doing. >> guest: and let's face it, we are, not joint at the hit but pretty close. probably the number one factor that will determine whether we take back the senate is how will hillary does. i think she i think she is going to do very, very well. >> host: president obama said something last night that almost seem to run counter to what you're senate candidates are doing. a lot of your senate candidates are saying -- equals that donald trump, rob hartman equals donald trump. the president and his speech that what we heard last week in cleveland was not particularly republican and it sure wasn't conservative. was that a little message follow-up?

>> guest: know, look. look. trump is different than the hard right, they will take government, they appeal to the government for different reasons, but the candidates are having an awful time figuring out how to deal with trump. that remains, are they supporting him, are they not supporting him, on what issues do they agree with you him, and what issues do they disagree. he has put disagree. he has put them in a pickle. mcconnell says to them, forget trump and run a national campaign, run a local campaign. sorry mitch, this is is a national election if there ever was one. >> which senate race, every cycle there's always one senate race that is both kind of a tipping point and a symbolic definer what really happened that year. 2006 200 al franken's win, 2014, franken's win, 2014, cory

gardner kinda define the cycle,. >> i would not say he race, but i would say the angst in the midwest about trade, about jobs, about incomes is going to, you you know you could end up with a situation where pennsylvania, ohio, indiana, illinois, indiana, illinois, wisconsin and missouri all have two democratic senate. >> it but the way trump is campaigning, does he play into that sentiment, that fear that fear here not in philadelphia severs but out in -- >> guest: here are two points on that. first, the number of blue-collar high school educated voters will lose are smaller than people think because the people who go

for trump's appeal, particularly immigration in the them versus us, they are already republicans. here's an republicans. here's an interesting fact. high school, educated males, democrats are pro- immigration reform, republicans are anti-immigration reform. both high school educated in the same places. another was the kind of appeal that trump has brought out above the table, republicans have always been using below the table and it's already one large percentage of those people over. on the other hand, trump is so new that this is a second point, for every blue-collar democrat we will lose in western pa, we will pick up two or three moderate republicans in the suburbs of philadelphia. and you you can repeat that in ohio, illinois, wisconsin, the voters who are most out there figuring out what to do are not the blue-collar democrats, they are the college educated, republicans who lean republican or independent and in the suburbs.

>> host: /forward to january 3 and imagine that you have taken the majority. you will be the majority leader, not the minority leader. not wood, there's a lot of what they're. >> where in one of these new modern places, what is unheard of. >> they don't even know it for mike is these days. that was a big thing in the speak 60s, for micah. >> host: okay, what type of senate leader do you envision yourself being. ever person has been a majority leader leader in the time i have covered the senate talks about regular order, diffusing power to community chairman and broadening the leadership and giving more responsibility to other people. what type of leader do you want to be? spee2 we have a lot of talented people in the senate. the quality of our younger democrats, the most junior half,

mirrors the senate in the late 60s and early 70s with their 70 giants. we have so much to do, i do hope they will have a lot of say in what goes on. the type of senate leader is someone who gets things done. i think this is serious stuff. there is an economic obligation as democrats to get middle-class incomes moving again. to show the middle-class where there that they can stay there, to show those trying to get to the middle-class that there is an easier way to get there. we have a political obligation because we want to clean up the system. it is such a mess and if we were to get a good majority in the supreme court, i think the odds are high that citizens united which is poison, poison, poison would be eliminated. but we have a moral obligation above all to me. if government remains paralyzed,

which the tea party in the house, mitch mcconnell and the senate they are done such a good job of doing, people are on the edge of just totally losing faith in government, that's the right wings a goal, they want them to lose faith in government but more importantly even losing faith in this country and the sunny, optimistic america that we have always known could go away and we could end up with something a lot different than what we know. i fear that. i told people that if we did not improve middle-class incomes, this is before trump and bernie, if we did not improve middle-class incomes 5210 years from now we have a government far different than the one anyone of us have known. i worry about that. the moral obligation is to show the average voter that we can

get government moving again. that that we can focus on what they need. whether it's a college student with debt or working in the suburbs of columbus ohio or a woman who is about to retire who is used to social security and the pension and the pension is gone, if they don't have faith that we can do something to improve their lives, god help us. i think there is a moral obligation and i believe, and i will try to lead my caucus as best i can in terms of getting things done. i would rather get things done and not get everything we want to then make a lot of speeches and stay pure and accomplish nothing. that to me is important. >> host: on about the leadership structure underneath you. what about durban are you willing to talk about that? >> guest: surprise, surprise,

surprise. did you ever hear about that? gomer pyle? did you ever hear about him. >> host: some people out there might not know this, but you are a -- master. i was walking around in the concorde last night and saw you running into the fallon's, former workers who got married him because they work for you, first question, how many schumer couples are there right now? mike lynch my cheap chief of staff. >> guest: . . .

my great staff were the closest knit staff. they celebrate all the holidays together. st. patrick's day and corned beef. thanksgiving at someone's house and birthdays so we are a -- and they go out drinking a lot. but we are the closest knit staff on the hill would be the good pinnich bad spin is yours. but they work so hard they don't have a chance to meet anybody else. >> host: but tim kaine has one-upped you. he says the weddings and has been the ofishant. i would haven't you -- >> guest: good story. i officiated at one wedding, my chief bodyguard, and in new york

you cannot be a justice of the peace if you're a senator, but massachusetts -- he was marrying a young woman from massachusetts, and her father knew the governor, and the governor can make you justice of the peace for a day. i was the justice of the peace, went up there, performed the wedding, they were nice enough to serve my two favorite foods and they got voiced ten months later. will not officiate at anymore weddings. >> host: perfect. a little closer to home. new york political questions. your staffer is the u.s. attorney who has just run run shod over the culture in albany. why is that? is there something with the new york culture? has he gone too far? >> guest: i made a rule, particularly after he became the u.s. attorney, that i would not mix in -- i don't talk to any of

the u.s. attorneys i've had the good fortune to recommend, about any ongoing case, and i made an effort not to influence them so i won't answer that question because i think that might do that. >> host: all right. really broad question, then. the national democratic party has become really more progressive, more liberal, on some issues it is just a little over four years ago where joe biden sort of accidentally said he was for gay marriage. and president obama wasn't even there yet. now it is part of your platform. ten years ago, you were chairman of the dsec in a cycle in which a lot of of the candidates were probably trying to get the nra endorsement, democrats, and now racing to appear with gabby giffords and getting michael bloomberg's backing.

has the party moved too close to liberal, to appeal to the heartland? >> guest: i think the country has moved in a progressive direction. on the social issues, and on the economic issues. and i think the republican party has ignored that change at their peril. i think in good part because of the good work of bernie sanders, the democratic party has accepted it. think sanders has made us a stronger party and will make us a better nation. here's one little interesting statistic. i may have the numbers somewhat wrong but i believe i have them right. pew does a survey of america, and it's 20,000 families and it's a snapshot of the person family. mostly nonpolitical. how long does it take you to go to work? how long -- how many times a day have -- do you go to the supermarket.

but procter & gamble had the survey. the asked rue a moderate liberal officertive. last time the was a major jump, change in that alignment, 1981, reagan revolution, and it was 40 moderates. that just for you young folks. it was so dramatic that i was -- that was the year i was elected to congress, 1980. new york had seven new congressmen, six republicans and me. one of the bluest states. and -- yeah. 40% moderate. jumped up to 35% conservative, and liberal went way down to 17. stayed that way pretty solidly. 40 years. until this year. and it's still 40 moderates but like 26 or 27 conservatives and 23 or 24 liberals, which underplays the progressive shift in the electorate because due to

our dear friend as fox news, liberal is a dirty word and conservative is a positive word. so, i think it's the country that has moved over. i think that's one of the reasons we're going to do very well in november. i think the likely hood if hillary wins the presidency by a strong margin, the likelihood is we take back the senate and even a chance we can get back the house. so i think that is where the electorate is moving. the trump problems that the republicans have makes that even better for us, but even without it i think it would be a good election for us. >> host: that's all the time we have today. we'll ask one final personal question. you have publicly basically been pleading with your recently married daughter to deliver a grandchild. >> guest: i have not. >> host: you do so in the

mansfield room. >> guest: is she there? okay. some knows i'm -- she knows. >> host: all right. that's all the -- >> guest: listen, she married the right guy. the wedding day was the greatest day of my life. i have plenty of joy from that at the moment. >> host: that's great. in just a few minutes we'll have dan balz up here with hillary for america campaign manager, robert mook, who will hopefully break some news. stay tuned. thank you, everyone. [inaudible question] [inaudible conversations]

>> hillary clinton's campaign manager, robby mook, sat down with the "washington post" today' in philadelphia. he was interviewed bythe newspaper's chief political correspondent, dan balz. >> hello, everyone. we'll get started here. i'm dan balz. the chief correspondent at the post. with me on stage is robby mook, the campaign manager for secretary clinton. robby, thank you for joining us. it's a busy day and week for you. we appreciate your coming over. before we get started i want to remind everyone to tweet or post questions for us using the hash tag wapo dnc. we will take a few throughout the conversation, assuming we get people tuned up but i'll

take the moderator's privilege of starting out. is the speech done? >> guest: it's never over until it's over. they can ad-lib from the podium. so, it is getting finished up. i think it's going to be a phenomenal speech, and it's going to wrap up and crystallize all of the different things we have been talking about at this convention. i think the first thing you'll hear in there is her narrating the life-long mission to fight for kids and families. going to talk about her methodist roots, her family roots. where the motivations come from. and then she's going to offer a vision for the future, where she wants to take our country, and she's going to talk about specific proposals to help us get there that's michigan that we feel was really missing from donald trump's speech. all doom and gloom. everything was terrible.

but he didn't really offer clear solutions how to make things better. all of this is then going to come full circle where she talks about what stronger together means for us and that voters face a choice. either let the forces tearing us apart socially and economically take us down one path or we can work together to help everybody prosper and every rise in the country jive you were to crystallize what you need to do tonight. what does she permanently need -- personally need to accomplish? >> guest: helping people understand a little bit more about her core motivation. some of the things she has accomplished and the people has helped how to four decades in public service. it's really important because hillary clinton is a work horse and not a show horse, and people don't understand all the good she has done for a lot of people. we saw many, many everyday folks on tuesday night, in particular, up on the stage, talking's the

difference hillary made in their lives, whether it's from recovering from 9/11, getting healthcare through the children's health insurance program, and the list goes on and on. some other of these people knew her well and talk about how they trust her to deliver for them other. s had empty her at all but she had a huge impact on their lives. this convention -- we want people to understand what she has accomplished and people need to understand the choice in this election, which is donald trump's vision for america, which is to divide, to blame forks point fingers, not really to have a plan to move forward, and hillary clinton's more optimistic. things can get better but we have to work together to get there. >> host: when you talk about the notion that she is going to try to tell people more about herself or tell people things they don't know about her, she was run for president twice, been the first lady, been the secretary of state. what is it that she could say

tonight that hasn't registered already on people? why is tonight different, i guess, is the question? why does she have an opportunity that up to now she hasn't been able to break how to with the kinds of things she needs to do. >> guest: this is a great question. i'd say there's two runs. one is, she is a work horse, not a show horse the fixes a problem and then moves on to the other and hasn't had the opportunity to talk below these things. but part of this is you got to -- in today's fragmented media environment, you have to say something a lot of times for it to really cut through and that's wire we're making sure to spend a lot of time on this. the other thing that hillary said is she needs to do as much work as she can to help voters understand that she is going to fight on their side, and the best thing that you can do to prove to people whose side you're on is to talk about all the things you have done. we welcome that discussion

because when you look the things trump has done, people he has short-changed, cheated, run out on, the difference between him and himry is -- hillary is clear. >> host: that leads to gal gallup reported as of monday night his favorability and unfavorability were i'd cat to hers -- are sigh say hers are identical to his. they are equally unpopular. up to now she has had a net negative but not as bad as his. why do you think through the course of this campaign she hasn't been able to widen the gap in her favor as opposed to having the gap ne-yoked to the point she comes to tonight, face by which as bad a shape as donald trump in the view of how people see the two candidates. >> guest: well, i know that is what the gallup poll said. don't necessarily accept their data and their premise. they obviously -- i don't

necessarily accept that data. however, it has -- this has been a challenge for her. and i think you're probably going to hear her touch on that and acknowledge that some people are skeptical. and that's why it's all the more important they have a richer understanding of those core values, those core motivations, and her lifetime of work and service. it's really important we talk about that. so, in part, to answer your question, we're trying to do some really important work during a really important speech, to lean into the challenge that you represent thread. the other thing is there has been an unprecedented level of incoming attacks from republicans on her elm that's been true her whole career. you look at the past would years in particular. she left the state department with one of the highest approval ratings of any elect official in the country. republicans were praising her. she decides to run for presidentment all of a sudden

the picture changes none of them have a good thing to say about her and hauling her into committee hearings sparks congressman mccarthy said just before he had to get chased out of his race, the whole point of these supposed investigations was to lower her poll numbers. so, all that stuff is going to have an effect but tonight people are going to see a different hillary clinton than they've heard about from the republicans. >> host: do you believe we're now in an environment where somebody's negative ratings and, frankly, their right track, wrong track, the perception -- almost two-thirds of the country saying we think we're off on the wrong track -- doesn't have the power that it once did in a particularly candidate whose following on a president who in a sense is a continuation, not a change person? >> guest: this is an interesting and important question. i think what it comes down to is the two pain points driving anger and frustration of voters, and they really have a lot of anger frustration -- is on the

one hand the economy is not working for everybody. wages aren't going up. people don't -- when they're out looking for a job, there aren't enough opportunities. costs continuing to rise. college debt continuing to rise. so there's a real squeeze there. then our political process is so gridlocked, it's not doing anything about the problems. so, yeah, people are helpless and frustrated because they have a clear set of problems, only getting worse and nobody is doing anything about it. what is different nowdays -- normally that would add up to overwhelming mandate for change and created some openness to the big glamorous promises that donald trump is making which he will not follow through on. the different is president obama is pretty popular and peck remanets he is trying to actually do things and he is getting jammed and blocked by the partisanship in congress. so, that's why we were so happy that president obama spoke last night and throw his weight

behind hillary because what voters need to examine in this elect is someone going to make partisan gridlock worse or better and are they going to fight on my side? on both of those accounts hillary is the overwhelmingly clear choice. >> host: don't you also run the risk that people will say president obama tried he juan of wasn't able to do it. why is hillary clinton going to be any better at it if we have a gridlocked system and the kind of polarization we have? how does she make a convincing case to people who at this point don't trust anybody with the promises they make? >> guest: a great question. this is where talking about her record of accomplishment actually matters a lot. we all know in '90s hilary took on the health insurance companies. she tried to get healthcare coverage for every single american and she lost. the democrats fought congress. and in newt gingrich's republican controlled congress, she pushed through the children's health insurance program which covers eight minimum kids today. when she was secretary of state, she got a treaty passed in the

senate, the largest reduction in nuclear arms in decades. this is someone who knows how to work with republicans on the hill. donald trump will only make partisan gridlock worse. don't think anybody dis agrees with that. this is not a man who builds coalitions and brings someone. in. he alien yates, divides, and turns people away. >> host: robby, how much of the messaging for this convention did you change as a result of what you saw unfold in cleveland and particularly with trump's speech? have you made modifications in the way you have approached the week as a result of that? >> guest: you know, we didn't, honestly, and didn't for two reasons. one is we always planned to spend a good amount of time talking about hillary, and i think the republican convention, which also talked a lot about hillary, only made us double down on that. viewers watching there saw a lot of big promises from trump,

heard a lot of bad things about hillary. wasn't a lot of there there. we offered something very different, as i said earlier we head everyday people on the stage, talking about the difference hillary has made the in their lives. a lot of people. and so to -- that didn't change. in fact, maybe it did in sense we doubled down on that. the other thing we were waiting for what some substance. what's he going to say, what plans is he going to off center and he didn't. she has been working on her speech for many, many weeks busts all -- but all been towards the same message. >> host: ask you about two different voting blocs. first is the white working class, the core of donald trump's support. john brownstein had a piece either yesterday or today in which he said there's been a lot of messaging coming from the stage at this convention in philadelphia. but the one group that seems not

to be in the eye sight of the people who are speaking this white working class voters. not a lot has been said about them to them to take on the frustrations they have. is that a deliberate digs? would you take issue with what ron said? >> guest: i do take issue. >> host: i guess then what is the counter to that? where is the evidence? >> guest: a great question. i think every night you have heard this touched upon in some important way. on monday night we heard elizabeth warren, am impassioned -- how hillary clinton is going to fight on the side of working families and how at every step in his career donald trump has done what is best for himself. you heard last night, both tim kaine and also joe biden make a plea that if you care about working people and the middle class, donald trump would be a disaster and i think hillary clinton will spend a lot of time talking about this tonight. you hit the nail on the head. this is a really important part of this campaign, because

working class people generally are getting hilt the hardest. white working class people are the most persuadable and it's incumbent on us as a campaign to make clear to them how hillary has been fighting on their side and will continue to do so, but also illuminate donald trump's record. it's been a disaster for people. it's been a temperatures a for jobs in the country. >> host: why do you think their the most alienated constituent si sunny think they're frustrated. you look at states like ohio, where jobs have left, where -- that have been the victims of outsourcing, and i think there's a sense of despair, and that makes anyone susceptible to big promises from donald trump, but trump university, where he said i'll teach you all the secreted that have made me successful in business, and all he dade was just take their money and it wasn't even a university, just a bogus company. that taught people nothing. you heard before the this at the

convention. that is our responsibility as a campaign, to remind people about those stories so they don't get swindled again. >> host: i'm told their there's a new poll out, perhaps today, that is looking at millenials. 75% think that donald trump is a racist. 75% think that he is disrespectful to women. and yet, in a four-way test, including the libertarian and green parties, hillary clinton gets just 43% of millenials. millenials, everybody knows, was a key part of the obama coalition. why is she still struggling with them and, again, that do you have here for them and what are you going to have going forward for them? >> guest: a great question. >> is that mostly a turnout issue or is there persuasion you have to do? i think it's both. i think millenials, i believe,

are going to line up behind hillary. we have seen that. she is performing as well with millenials as president obama was at similar times on his campaign. but we need to make sure to educate millenial voters as much as we can on other few things. first of all, most of them don't know much about hillary clinton's early career and those tough fights she had to fight. so we need to fill that in. they first started hearing about her when she was a presidential candidate or a senator. such a long record of achievement before that time. the other thing is i think millenials have as much or more at stake than any other voters. donald trump is going to craft their future. they've been hit hardest by lack of job opportunities. by student debt. hillary we do something about those problems and donald trump is not, and i think the millenials are the most sensitive to hatred, bigotry. you mentioned racism in the poll.

that not the future. that's not the community, not the cultural makeup that they want for our country, and they need to turn out and speak out against it. >> host: what's the inspirational message for them? you talked about secretary clinton as a work horse, not a show hours are that's not an inspiring message. not a -- let's go work for a work horse. how do you combine what you think are her greatest attributes, doggedness, a willing to take on any problem. never give up. keep at it. get whatever done you can and then get another piece and do it. and say to millenials we're going to really do something big for the country? clear live that is why they responded to bernie sanders. look, first and for most, everybody needs to understand donald trump is a fundamental threat to our society, our economy, our national security. and everybody needs to understand that. but electing hillary clinton is a huge opportunity. right? it's an opportunity to do

something about the student debt. an opportunity to choose a path where we are bringing people together to get things done. what donald trump is offering is division, is more more ranch core, more racism. hilary is offering a future that is bigger and brighter. and the opportunity to elect the first woman president. if the millenial january regs has a chance as one of the biggest voting blocs in the country to signal to every woman and man in this country they can be anything they want to be. that's inspiring. in our office, a lot of our younger volunteers, that's incredibly inspiring. >> host: i wanted to ask you about the value of conventions. there is so much time, energy, effort, that goes into it. just watching the scripting going on.

the number of videos you have put out over the course of four nights. quite extraordinary. donald trump and the republicans had a rockier convention. just not as well choreographed. everybody agrees with that. he got a modest bounce. the last several conventions people have gotten a modest bounce. your convention is running more smoothly do you anticipate you'll end up with a bigger bounce than donald trump got? >> guest: i would hope and expect that. i'm skeptical sometimes of the polling the day after or one or two or three days after. it will show one thing and a lot of this settles down. it's called a bounce for a reason, because it comes down at bit. think what matters -- you asked about the value of a convention -- we get four days where tens of millions of americans are tuning in every night, and it's an opportunity where we get an hour or two or through cable outlets, sometimes

even more or on the front page of the paper, and we're getting a lot more print media. we're getting an enormous opportunity to tell a story. we normally have to communicate in 30-second sound bites -- 30-second television segments. this is an opportunity -- we get an hour to really tell a story. so i think it's tremendously important and we are laying down a set of information and a set of ideas that are going to matter through the end of the campaign. >> host: so, when we get to mid-august, which that's a lot of this settles out, do you think we'll be looking at a race that is not hugely different but different than when we went into this convention period at the beginning of july, let's say? are people going to say, all right, we have been through two of the most consequential weeks of campaign in which you say each side has the ability to communicate directly with more people than the debate. do you think this will move the elections? >> i think it will.

but i don't think the numbers will be enormous. >> host: what do you look for? >> guest: be great to build a modest lead, but i think the most important thing, what we are really trying to do, is give people a richern understanding of hillary and a male platform from which we can talk about what she is going to do for people moving forward, talk about the future. but also that we have done a lot of work to really sharpen the contrast and help people understand how high the stakes are of a trump presidency, how much of a risk that would be. that's why we have admirals and generals on that stage, really talking about what a risk he would be to our national security. there's a richness there that is very hard to thrive through earn media and paid media. so any n my mind that is the most important accomplishment. i'm less worried abouting my numbers and big swings. i want voters to have a deep are

understanding what is at stake and a better sense of who hillary and is what she has done. >> host: last question. you have talked in a variety of settings about the electoral map and you don't think in fundamental ways it's different than the map we have been dealing with the last several elects. may be some targets of opportunity for you that a donald trump candidacy presents. he thinks there's targets of opportunity for him that traditional republican has not been able to get. as you look at that map, what are the three most important states you look at? >> guest: i think the states with a lot of electoral votes are the most important. think florida, ohio, and then i would argue north carolina is more competitive for democrats than it's ever been. a lot more like it was in 2008 than it was in 2012. we have a shot at winning and i'm not saying we definitely will but we have a real shot. three states we'll pay a lot of attention. a lot of electoral votes there and that organizing work we're doing on the ground can make a big difference in the outcome. >> host: robe, thank you.

we're out of time. thank you very much. >> guest: thank you so much. take care. [applause] [inaudible conversations] tonight, hillary clinton becomes the first woman to accept a major political party's nomination for president of the united states, and with c-span, you have many convenient options for watching the entire speech without any interruptions. watch her historic acceptance speech live on c-span, listen to it on the c-span radio app. watch it live 0 or on demands on

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