>> it is a process that is evoked in processes if the court in landover come to an agreement the court it they regarded as acceptable. that would be whether the court would resolve the question whether these were jurisdictional waters. that is the kind of consideration that is often invoked as a justification for not submitting review. the issue on a person seeks immediate review may turn out not to be resolved after all. with respect to the litigation this court is already taken the step of saying the same principle applies to administrative adjudication. mypoints is it simply that this is not the court of administrative law, this this is a fundamental precept of our legal system. on the whole were more worried

about piecemeal litigation then preferred litigation. finally, for malady is not the key. in franklin and dalton it was intentionally formal, intentionally structured and they were designed to have an effect on the presidents decision-making. they were held not to be final agency action because they were not legally binding on the president. the same thing is true here with respect to the binding effect of the jurisdictional determination on the recipient. thank you you. >> thank you counsel, the case of submitted. >> a book to be in prime time begins in one hour with afterwards program. starting up ismay with one child, the story of china's most radical experiment. at 855 p.m., kimberley strassel and the intimidation game, how the left to silencing free speech. after that, mary frances berry, speech. after that, mary frances berry, $5 and a pork chop sandwich. coming up at 1050 p.m., its author eric fehr and his book,

consequence, a memoir. weeknights in august at 8:00 p.m. eastern on book tv. >> this week on q&a, aarp ceo, jo ann jenkins, she talks about her organization at her new book, disrupt aging, bold new new path to living your best life at every age. >> joanne jenkins, you are the ceo of aarp, what did you take that job? >> it was unexpected i had spent i had spent over 25 years in public service and i have the opportunity to come over and be the head of aarp foundation. i spent two years there really

trying to reinstitute, reconstitute aarp foundation to have it fully focused on serving the needs of the low income, 50 plus across the organization. as a result of the success we had in the foundation, then ceo asked me if i would come over to the aarp side of the house to help develop the strategy for 2020. to make sure that aarp was relevant to its members in the 21st century. as part of that transitioning and building out the strategy, the opportunity in the opening came to be the head of the ceo of aarp. so while not planned, was a wonderful transition for me to be able to move from being initially a board member for aarp for-profit company to running its foundation in the coming into the sea for. i think today i'm the only leader in aarp who has worked in

all three organizations. >> host: how big is your membership and membership? >> guest: it has 38,000,000 members, think we're close to largest mentorship organization of the world. our members are very diverse, they're about one third republican, one third democrat, one third independent. they are very vocal about the issues that are important to them. we are in all 50 states, juan, puerto rico and the virgin islands. we are growing every day. about 110 million people in the u.s. who are over the age of 50 which is our membership is based 50 and older. >> c-span: is the main aarp a for-profit company? >> guest: no, it is a a nonprofit. it is a c-4. it means it is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization whose governance is to serve in a

nonpartisan nonprofit way across the country. >> c-span: are you allowed to lobby? >> guest: we have an advocacy lobby on that were signed capitol hill and the state legislators across the company before is that inside the company question. >> guest: it's inside the association. we had a c-3 which is a nonprofit charitable arm whose sole focus is to serve the low income. then then we have asi services which is a for-profit company that sells anywhere from travel insurance, discounts, restaurant coupons, a host of other products and services. hearing aids, things that appeal to the 50 plus c for what happened to that profit? what is ago? >> guest: we have an agreement with the internal revenue service that the profits made from our for-profit company, all 95% of% of it is turned back into aarp to serve in a nonprofit space, to do good for

people across this country. both members and nonmembers. i think that that is what is so unique about aarp. while we have a membership organization, the social impacts work that we do in communities across the country is regardless whether or not you are an aarp member. >> c-span: how big is your board >> guest: we have a 21 person, nonpaid volunteer board. they work with us on developing our policy positions, they come from all across the country. they can self nominate or be nominated by another board member, or any citizen. we have a process that our board members turn over every two years. we have a new class, not total but about six members turning over every two years on the board. but but it is a nonpartisan, nonpaid, all volunteer board spee4, do people people work for aarp? >> guest: i think we have about 2300 employees.

they work in all 50 states. we augment that with about 5000o advocacy work across the country before were's headquarters? >> guest: six oh one east street in washington d.c. >> c-span: in your new book you talk about your 87-year-old father and your mother-in-law. tell us why you mentioned both of them and how did that impact what you think about as head of aarp. >> guest: i think what is so wonderful about my mother-in-law, she lived here in washington dc, she she lives by herself, very independent. she gets up every day, cleaned the house, takes the bus to the metro, takes the metro to wherever she has decided to go shopping so she can walk safely in the building. she has lunch, brings back that much home, comes in a calls my husband to

say i'm back in the house. i think that her mind and her spirit is as young as she was when i first met her some 30 years ago. i think she is a wonderful example of living your life healthier at a very young age. and the importance of exercise and staying active in the world. my dad who i just came from visiting is in alabama. he he is 87 and will be 88 next week. really so independent in caring for others. he is at a .. in his life for a number of his friends have either gone on, passed passed away, or is he is helping care for them. i think what gives him his will to continue on is that passion for helping others around him. others who may not be in as good health as he is. so i thought it was important to mention because it both those of those are in their 80s and 90s. i think that is a very important

aspect of the aarp membership. years ago you probably were member for 20 years, now, it's, it's very likely that you could be a member for five decades. spee4 can you join before you're 50? >> guest: we have a junior membership membership that is for 40 plus -year-olds. we do not actually advertise it. most of our members are 50 and above. >> c-span: how long has it been $16 a year? is it still $16 here? >> guest: it has been that since i have been associated with aarp which is well over ten-12 years. so at least for the last ten plus years. >> c-span: i bet you know the number one reason people join arp? >> guest: it is because the magazine. they love the magazine and the discounts that aarp members get. >> c-span: how many magazines do distribute? >> guest: the last count i heard was we circulate about 25 -

25 - 35000000 people every two months. it comes out every other month. i think think that's the third-largest magazines or collation of the world. it is one of those magazines that you get at home but three or four people in the household read it. the number and exposure is much more than an average magazine. >> c-span: where were you raise? >> guest: i was raised just about 16 miles southwest of mobile, alabama. >> c-span: , family did have? >> guest: my dad was a merchant marine, my mother was a housewife. i have two brothers and one sister. they are all eight, nine, in ten years older than me. i tell people all of the time that i was time that i was the youngest in the family and a single child because when i was growing up in my high school teenage years, my brothers and sisters were either gone off to college or mary. >> c-span: what did you think when you are in high school that

you would end up doing for living? >> guest: i always liked doing news programs. i was the president of the student council. i was the morning an ounce or. at that time i always thought i would like to be a news anchor. >> c-span: what happened? >> guest: i guess i came to washington, got involved in public service, and, and i think this is the closest thing i will get to it. >> c-span: what was your first on the washington? >> guest: my first job was a came up and works on the reagan campaign in the summer of 1980. i then worked the reagan inauguration and ended up going to the department of housing and urban development where i was congressional relations. i had the southern delegation which really was nice for me because i was from the south. move from congressional relations to legislation which was really doing more on the legislative bill side of the house.

i was promoted to work for the federal housing commissioner at department of housing and urban development where we were addressing issues around multifamily housing and single-family housing. part of that public housing sector back in the 80s of thinking through how we build build out affordable communities across this country. i have spent just over four or five years at the department of housing and urban development. i had a keen sense of how important it is for us to have affordable housing and to build out communities, livable communities that have mixed-use and affordability for everyone. >> c-span: i know i spent a lot of time at the library congress. but go to the housing center. what does aarp do for people have housing problems? >> guest: from our foundation work we get involved in trying to address, at the local level. we know we know that the four

things low income people face the hardest challenge about is hunger, housing, income, income, and what we call isolation. so we know that if someone it's in a home it is a much more stable household. many people we find now our house rich and financially poor. they cannot afford to live in the house that they may have inherited or they may have grown up in. we certainly do a lot of work on the nonprofit sector in our advocacy work on the hill really tried to get state legislators and communities to think about building accessible housing so that people of all ages whether someone who need some kind of assistance coming in the front door who might have to have a walker or wheelchair, or whether it is a young mother trying to get a stroller inside a house. i often say to the staff, who came up with those steps walking up to the front of the house

rather than having a flat incline. we do a lot of work around advocacy and really building and planning designing and communities that make it accessible regardless of your age. >> c-span: what is the secret? how does aarp find all of those addresses of all those people who are about to turn 50? >> guest: i can't say that i know all the details of it, but we can almost find anybody who is out there now. what we try we try to do is six months before you turn 50, to be able to send that letter and invitation to you. my home home entrées that i hope that we are making aarp such a place that people want to join it. when people turn 50 they say yes i have earned the right to be an aarp member and they feel good about it rather than during those pieces of mail in the trash. >> c-span: is there an obvious place for those addresses are?

>> guest: i think there are many lists out there that you can buy in people's birthdates show up. so i can't say that i know specifically how they do it, but i, but i know it is a combination of a number of following information and data about individuals. >> c-span: if you add up the budgets of the foundation, aarp and your for-profit group, how much how much money do you generate in the years time? >> guest: on an annual basis i think we're roughly maybe one or 2,000,000,000 dollars worth of business that comes and goes out right away. so on an annual basis, the money that we generate firm are for prophet we push out through social advocacy and programs out the country. very similar to the federal government we turn over that budget and use it to drive our social impact agenda.

>> c-span: as you know, aarp can be controversial. i want to show you some video of a man named paul ryan who spoke to your group in 2012. i want thousand 12. i want you to tell us what this is about. >> the first step to a stronger medicare is to repeal obama care because it represents the worst of both worlds. i had a feeling there would be this reaction so let me get into it. it weekends medicare for today's a senior sympathetic risk for the next generation. first, it funnels $716 billion out of medicare to pay for a new entitlement we did not ask for. second, it puts 15 unelected bureaucrats in charge of medicare's future. >> c-span: so 2012 he wasn't speaker of the house, he is now. you say in your book by the year

2020 there will year 2020 there will be 64 million people in this country on medicare. how do you get through this? i'm usually people are unhappy about what he said. >> guest: i think the important thing isn't as you know, aarp is a nonpartisan organization and if i recall correctly, i do not think it was a ceo at the time but i was certainly associated with aarp. speaker ryan came there in his role as running mate as a vice presidential running mate. aarp traditionally invites both parties to our national convention to show up and i give speaker rang good credit to speak to our members to share his views on medicare. social security and medicare are so important for the survival of people who are 65 and older. we know that social security is not addressed in a meaningful way, it will lose 25% of its value by 2030 or people will

actually lose 25% of what their current benefits would be if we do not make meaningful adjustments to secure that it is solvent and adequate. social security and medicare both turned 80 this past year. with respect to medicare, we really think we need to try to make changes in the cysto so we can start capturing some of the control of the costs, not just for medicare but the whole healthcare system. we have to do that in a meaningful way and hoping that republicans and democrats on the hill with hospitals, doctors and patients are working together to do that. aarp's position has been that those cuts cannot come on the backs of the benefactors. the people who depend on it every day should not have to carry the burden when they paid into this medicare system and social security system. as i said, i give speaker speaker a great credit for

coming to speak his piece and to share with us what he would be doing on those programs. >> c-span: if this town continues to be divided and they continue to have one side that's it thanks obama cares the greatest on the other side thinks it's awful, how do you ever get this job done with copyrights medicare and social security? >> guest: i taught more reasonable minds we get together to be able to address one of our big issues in this election has better on social security. we have a platform campaign out there called take a stand. we think that if we are going to get to this social security solvency and adequacy, it is going to demand presidential leadership. so our campaign is about going out and saying anyone that who is running for president ought to be able to tell us what their position is and what the plan is on solving social security for the next 80 years. so we have a website called take a stand.org, we have invited all

of the candidates to share with the american people how they would address social security and that letter members and nonmembers decide how they want to vote on it. to be able to make sure whoever wants to be president understands how important these programs are for the survival of millions of people over the age of 65 in this country. 10000 people per day are turning age 65 and that is going to happen for the next 14 years. so it is not something that will go away, it will increase. >> c-span: your book is full of statistics on the savings of people in the country, the retirement, all of that planning, how bad is it or how good is it? >> guest: i would say to you that it all ties back to our longevity and the fact that we are living another 20 or 30 years longer than our parents or

grandparents. so depending solely on social security is not going to be enough to survive on, if in fact you're going to live some 80, 90 years old. the fastest growing age that age segment in this country is people over the age of 85. the second is people over the age of 100. when these programs are put into place, life expectancy was 67 or 68. not only are there more people in the system, but they are living longer. we have to be able to look at these programs and make meaningful adjustments that is going to allow people to live with dignity at a much longer. of time. having said that, said that, i am a strong proponent of people needing to take some personal responsibility. we need to learn to start saving and planning. i like to say so that we can live, but how do we plan to live this extra 20 or 30

years of your life that is given to you as a result of medical advances or you living in better health? how do we start working with people all over the country at a much younger age so that they start saving and planning for their future and not waiting until they get to 65 or 70 and realize that they do not have enough income to live adequately. >> c-span: what is the percentage of you know it, of the number of people have no money saved whatsoever and rely entirely on social security? >> guest: i think the last number i saw was 50% of people over the age of 65 have less than $10000 saved for retirement. >> c-span: what does your membership think should be done about that? >> guest: i think the polls that we see from our members put social security at one of the top priorities that they think we should be focused on.

they recognize that savings is imported, that doesn't mean they automatically do it. it is one of those things like exercise. we know that if we exercise we feel better, but getting to it and actually finding the time to do it is another thing. that is part of the message we're trying to get through in "disrupt aging". trying to get people to understand that this is a blessing that we are given to be able to live this extra 20 or 30 years. with that comes a responsibility to start saving and thinking, and planning about how you're going to take care of yourself and your loved ones with these additional years. >> c-span: tell me if i'm wrong, in the last six years, three of those years there have been no increase in the social security check that goes to people. you hear this administration and a lot of people in the town talk about how much better everything is. how can everything be so much better if for three out of

the last six years social security recipients have got no increase? >> guest: we certainly hear that from our members about how difficult it is to survive. just last week i was in alabama, my home state, 57% of those who rely on social security, social security provides a 55% of their income. 30% reliance on security for 90% of their income. the average social security's income is 13,000 per year. not many people can afford to live out of poverty and 13,000 dollars per year. i think it is so important that we not only have social security there, but he will pick take a personal responsibility to plan for their futures and think about how they are going to live these additional years. >> c-span: talking about social security, has been talked a lot in the campaign.

ted cruz had this to say on the television network. >> i am 44 years old. it is hard to find someone my generation who think social security will be there for us. that presents a real opportunity to reform it now for future generations. how can we do that? number one, for younger workers we should gradually increase the retirement age to recognize that people are living longer and give people time to plant their financial affairs to anticipate a later retirement age under social security. number two, we should change the rate of growth in benefits of social security so that it matches inflation rather than exceeds inflation. for younger workers, we ought to allow them to keep a portion of their tax payments in a personal account that they own, that they control, and that and that they

can pass on to their kids and grandkids. >> c-span: would happen if you told your membership that you're going to support all through those suggestions? >> guest: i think there be a massive outcry. i think what we're trying to do with take a stand is really to give candidates like senator cruz the opportunity to let the american people listen to adhere their recommendations over the to make their own decision about whether they're going to vote for that particular candidate or not. for us at aarp it it is not for us to say this is the right solution for you. but for us to lay out the options for the american people to see all of the candidates positions. it is critical that we come together whether we agree on all of the solutions are not, but to be in the room, having a conversation about how we can make social security as secure and ice i stress, at as

adequate. today it is 5 - 1 of people drying out compared to putting into the system. it's only going to get worse. it is critical that this is the time, during this primary process that we hear from all of the candidates and listen to all of their recommendations. then we need to put them together to see what is going to be the most beneficial and help the most people for the longest period of time. >> c-span: if we wanted to go find the social security trust fund or the medicare trust fund or whatever, where would we go find the actual money? is it sitting somewhere? >> guest: the treasury department keeps control of the trust fund for certainly the social security and medicare is an appropriations through that. it's in the federal budget. >> c-span: is there money in that trust one?

>> guest: there's money in the social security trust fund and we believe it is adequate to carry out the existing structure until 2030. if we do not make meaningful changes in that program it will result in 2030 by a 25% cut. >> c-span: as you know your face with it every day you have a c-4, c-3, you have a for prophet, how do you go through all of these landmines out there so that you do not get your nonprofit worktop a trailer next up with your for-profit. >> guest: what's clear for us is that we are a mission driven organization to help the needs and wants of the people. sometimes that will lead us toward the democrats and sometimes for the republicans. but if we stay focused on what is best for people 50 plus in this country i think it helps us stay out of the fray and being either left leaning or right

leaning in this organization and this conversation or any of those issues, it is something that our organization has really focused on being social mission driven for over 58 years. i'm proud of the work that my predecessors and the staff that work with us to everyday. >> c-span: here's an ad that you have done in this was done in february of this year. all about the advertising magazine. i wanted to shout and ask you how much of this you have to do? >> that's why our members love aarp the magazine, celebrates you. from entertainment to in-depth reporting. it is just one of the great benefits of membership. if you don't think this is right for me when you think of aarp then you don't know us. get to know us.

>> c-span: for small what happened to the american association of retired persons or people? >> the american association of retired persons. we have not used that in over 14 years. it was part of a recognition that our members are not retiring. close i think 40% of our members are still in the workforce and that continues to grow year after year. partly because people want us to continue to stay active and engaged. and people need need to continue to have some financial security for the future. >> c-span: is aarp magazine in the for-profit country? >> guest: in the nonprofit. it is a membership, a magazine, i say i read to that magazine every other month and i say bully this is so relevant. it's a wonderful expression of experiencing the things that our members are experiencing everyday their local communities.

i hope people feel good about them. we certainly hear from them either through email or through our website, through the articles they like or the articles they dislike. and the information and resources that it brings to them. >> c-span: the circulation is 25 million it's the largest in the united states, what what is the cost for one paycheck? >> guest: the last time i looked somewhere between four and 500,000 for a one page ad. >> c-span: what sells the best in that magazine that you can remember? >> guest: i don't know if i know directly. it's usually around health products or travel. our members members like to travel and have new experiences. they like products and services that make it easier for them to live independently in their homes. those are a lot of our advertisers. >> c-span: the articles that are in there, what kind of articles are the most feedback from? in

your book you say it used to be difficult to find people to go on the cover and now people ask you to go on the cover. >> guest: i would say to, the information about people protecting themselves from scams and fraud. a lot of the information about help around financial products and services and information about how to save better. i would probably put scams and frauds and how to protect themselves at the forefront. >> c-span: what's your attitude about politics? >> guest: we cover all of it. we try to be as diverse in presenting articles on all sides, try to stay out of that political fray but certainly i know we have had bush on the covers and the obama on the cover and the reference you made to actors and actresses, we do a program called newbies for

movies for grown-ups. as a way to try to get the movie industry to start producing movies that were of interest to people who are 50 and older. slowly but surely we have started doing this, the event in hollywood got bigger and bigger and i said to the staff, i said three years ago i remember the comments about how glad i won this and now i have to figure out how to get it out of the building and this year celebrating michael douglas and morgan freeman who are all embracing their agent feeling good about and thinking aarp for making this important gesture of recognizing them for creating good content in movies. . .

>> >> end recognizing them for what they do it in film with the transformation of the culture. c-span: you spent how many years with the library of congress? >> 15 years. >> i came to the library of congress when they were going through a number of management issues and class-action lawsuits and that the time congress had mandated someone to help address those management issues so i agreed to come over for a one-year then i was the chief of staff and i

ended my career there. >> what would you tell us that we don't know? >> i would say that is one of the most fascinating places with over 260 languages the first telegraph ever written the only library in the world to collecting every format would never subject you are interested they have that book and film and print we say the largest library we argue back-and-forth with the british library you know, -- to has the most but what i'm left six years ago we have 130 million items.

>> what is the responsibility of the chief operating officer? >> my job is to run up a library. >> but the focus was to run the day-to-day operations anytime a the book has a copyright unit to catalog gore pledged that out with the u.s. or abroad with the copyright office with over 800 people that do research for the congress in addition

to the library. >> just over 4,000. >> personal interest what would you do if you went back to the library? what area would you study? >> powless said of the jefferson building that would be that geography and map collection and you can go back to the early 1500's how they have transitioned and from my own place of birth the curators sexually but back to found when this was not an island it was

part of the mainland of alabama with a host of other things had broken off so we did say fascinating place the with that manuscript division. c-span: what role did you have to create a national book festival? >> it was a wonderful time when laura bush went to the white house she was the first one and that the time we were supposed to meet with her to talk about how we would use her position as first lady to enhance libraries. she put on the texas book festival and was the first lady she had the idea to replicate that at the national book festival.

how many people need to be here? i remember her saying if we can get 5,000 people so that first year i think there were 50,000 people that showed up we had over occupied the building and eight years later as furs later we read over 100,000 coming to the national book festival by the end of the eight year and now david rubenstein has said today he bent -- yvette. c-span: is the sheer first book? >> it is. that was written with the encouragement of the staff to talk about the whole idea

50 is not the new 3060 is not 40 but is okay. they need to own their age and we don't need to talk about to be over 50 as a period of decline. or encourage people i know what to accept the fact i want them to understand it is okay and feel good about it. said that is the rallying cry how do we change the conversation and how do we use the of wisdom and the knowledge gained over the 50 your 60 years to help solve the nation's problems to get personal responsibility they you will live to be 80 or

90. how do you focus on what you want to do? maybe we should do a book. c-span: will you go one to work? >> the book has been out a little over a month. we have had responses. we have alabama's then new york we will let the state officers decided there is an opportunity we are signed up to do national conferences this year. to construct the movement for people to use the disrupt aging for all ages how do we stop letting age define what we can or cannot do.

c-span: a a rp is controversial bylaw show you an ad of the organization from 2007 i dunno if you call it competition in alaska how much of this goes on because they don't like those political positions of aa it -- aarp's. >> social security will go off a cliff if we don't do something now it will be harsh. twenty-five% cut it dennis said -- but it's over 13 years people are living longer in 1935 the life expectancy was 65 today it is at 85 so, we want to add a supplement to social security so people can have a lot more money may be half a million more. c-span: dc any problem with

your membership? >> i don't think so i think as long as we stay focused on the needs of those 110 million people out there who are over the age of 50, a lot of them are turning 50 every day. there is competition out there. c-span: who is your biggest competition? >> looking at products and services it could be amazon in the advocacy world that depends on the issues. to fight for common-sense language to have consumers have the right information from financial and vice from the investor it depends what

the issue is. and other advocacy groups. with those programs around health care and financial it changes every day. >> coat back to financial visors. how much fraud is there? ♪ >> on an annual basis i think investors lose close at around $17 billion so the language that we tried to work with the department of labour to make sure there is plain language given to the consumer that they know up front how much that advisory would give them that particular vice. >> how do you know, ? it is

in that information to make sure you get a vice from a good financial planner and of other financial institutions. >> what is the chance that they would never pass anything. >> i hope we could see some movement i know though latest poll from one week ago 75 percent of the of members want to make sure the clear plain language and vice. >> there was a lot of suspicion you were behind obamacare and that is another reason that they

don't like the politics. what do you say to them? and hal of sat word day with obamacare? >> let me say this. we are nonpartisan but it is one-third, one-third, one-th ird we supported that hca because insurance coverage is very vital to our members that should not stop you from having access to health care. with president bush and medicare part deep. and then with the health care as long as we are focused we are okay.

c-span: why did they not included in the bill to negotiate with pharmaceuticals either prescription drug or those prices? >> i was not there at that time but and then every year to improve and there is opportunities to make advancements but our members are burned by the cost of drugs for those who pay over 50 percent of the income of prescription drug costs.

and also into the american people at a reasonable cost. just to see how you bring down the cost. >> since you have north carolina o what have you started your the most proud? >> >> the work that i have done around hunker when i was at the foundation is the issue of senior honker. meadows to suffer from hunger every day. >> 10 million over 50? neck yes not counting children but people over the age of

50 but that shows a spotlight and i am proud to say those to raise money for local food banks. and we know that it is so important people cannot learn to have that nutritional support. c-span: had ideas served 32 million? >> we do neil packing events then delivered directly to the food bank we tried not to affiliate with one or the heather and jeff gordon was

a spokesperson and then with the food banks and cash donations we know it is easier to give a cash donation to serve more people with canned goods but any amount that is good for these food banks and these communities to come up with under so we started a program called campus kitchens with college students in local colleges and deliver them for community centers around the country so 13 are 14 of

those funded at colleges or universities and how they solve punker and they're local community. we don't have a food shortage but a solution shortage or storage shortage. that they might have to dispose of because of the expiration date for the distribution high you get the food to the community or the food banks. but that it's a process to continue to have nutritional food otherwise there are food desserts. like washington d.c. to go

to the corner that may not have fresh fruits or vegetables regardless of where people live. >> just after you retire nobody will remember you see one to mark your identification you can have movie discounts. playtime is over. we are all done with that. >> where was the idea to have the nascar driver? >> jeff that the time looking for a sponsor, and the vehicle to address the of hungry issue. to end of the hundreds states and with those nascar

races with the football season nascar has 100,000 people so it was a great audience to raise this with a very giving audience in the community. that is a number of food drives at the track to make donations. >> it is some type of health care. >> >> what we try to do is to get rid of the al did a belief so more people can live so the beginning of the

recognition that there is value in 7.$1 trillion of economic value that people can bring to the u.s.. but you start to uc other companies look for drivers who are over 52 supplementing tom pirko but i think it is good with the recognition said the perfect example is a a r.p. got into the market with a product

that was a tablet but it had additional features like a larger font for easier access the recognition that anyone could recognize during the course of that time to address the needs of the 50 +. the we want to drive the market if it will come up for solutions in particular. to get some of those two. >> held many members were

there when you for started? >> the relationship is stagnant. the you have to read newhouse - - three new but we've are hoping. >> you have the much larger? >> over the course of the last 10 years it is 24 or 28 million. up and down at times. with the economy be some of the drop-off. >> only 11 howdah of 145 medical schools in the country what are you doing about that? >> we're certainly trying to encourage to have been

interest as the need for care so there was far hundred $50 billion with family members caring for somebody else. >> as they pay for this service we know two things for certain you are a caregiver or will need one and then to think about the enormous cost it is $87,000 per year. if you have to stay in a nursing home fiber tenures not many can do that or a ford tussaud we know the

members want to live in their own home and come up with solutions and then out of their own homes. >> >> that depends on the quality of care. >> 24/7 and then to hospitalize someone in the nursing home. >> >> what about the rest of your term nazi e o? >> i one day a r.p. to look as partners with communities

moving to an action -- nationwide organization. >> disrupt aging is the name of the of book our guest and author, thanks very much ♪

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