politics one oh one, ever put something on your head of your president. in this all stems from dukakis with this, if it them, and oversize -- it was a helmet and it had this large label on it, black writing on a white background that said mike dukakis, and it looked like pete maverick mitchell from top to in 1986. but he did not look like tom cruz inside the helmet. >> you can watch this and other programs online booktv.org. >> next on afterwards, and culture makes the case for why donald trump should be president. she's in conversation in conversation with the "daily caller"'s tucker carlson. >> ann coulter you are an author, columnist and also a tv

person. people know you from television. the assumption is to be people write their own book. that that minions to do that. you're offended by this idea. >> i think it's an excellent assumption in pretty much every case but mine. and by the way if you turned on tv in the last year you have not seen me. no trump supporters who don't see too much of. but they're usually right and i wish that were better understood, i've told new york times reporters who mostly hate me but i've also said there on the bestsellers list fiction not fiction, i want a separate section for authors everett their own books. and that is one thing that every new york times reporter agrees with me on because they are at least writers. they may be state but they are writers. and no, no, i mean my second book, my editor, inside the mic congratulations, you're on the bestseller list. and by the way the you the only one on the list who wrote her own book.

>> host: how do you write your book? was the process? spee2 usually usually take a year off. this is unusual. i think slander and treason i may have done a back to back years. that was an emergency and this is an emergency. usually i take it you're often i have -- i try to finish the book from one thing i say never going to write another book,. >> host: what you say that? spee2 i thought i was stunned. it started with treason and i thought that's everything i have to say. i've been wanting to write treason since i was in college and slander sense about a year into the new york times a probably when i was like 11i wanted to write slander. and that i thought that's everything i wanted to say. then something comes along with it go i need to look it up i'm interested in this, from darwinism, mccarthyism. the french resolution revolution. and then i start reading and reading to see if there's a point in the thesis.

i got some ideas for books in fact that's how i wrote audio's america, those only gonna be one chapter. and it. and it wasn't but it wasn't a good idea just found so much more this vast conspiracy to hide what's happening with immigration from the american people. for a while i took time off and i read and formulate and that i start writing and i am completely cut off from the world. people know me, every time i'm writing a book and now this is my twelfth, i would get an email from e-mail from someone i've become friendly with recently at some point, like a month and i'm sorry, have i done something to offend you? are you mad at me? my friends who know me know that she's writing a book to not expect her to e-mail back. >> host: seed attractant of a? >> guest: i have a couple of talking partners, one of who whom you know. i cannot tell. >> host: do you run your stories ideas,.

>> just chitchat. i'm trying to think can i ever force, i guess they are about three. >> host: what makes a good chitchat partner when you're writing about. >> guest: when i can maneuver the conversation around something i'm writing about. unfortunately with actually all of them, that is very difficult to do. i'll to do. i'll have to listen to 20 minutes long about him calling the appliance repair man before he can work the conversation to whatever trump said that day or whatever it is i want to talk about. and a lot of it is just talking ideas out when i can get to that part of the conversation. and that's fun and that gets me going. but do i ever get them to listen to me read portions of it, that is way harder. a lot of kicking and screaming which really annoys me. spee1 to like the process of writing the

book? >> guest: i love it. people used to ask i like doing tv too. and i like giving speeches. so used to never remember which dry like more. and when i was writing it was either demonic, i was happy every single day, i love the research, also i don't have to wake up to an alarm clock. i sleep until i wake up. i do it i want all day and luckily and this is why think my books are fun because i get bored easily. so i only read and write about stuff that's interesting. the french revolution is really interesting. and it's been our entire lives. so it was totally fun. and it's not an assignment nobody's tell me you have to write about the french

revolution, i just read all of this fun stuff and find more fun stuff. i love the research part of it. i love tracking down how the media is hiding stuff, not only the media but the government. hiding true information from us about immigration. also the trump book which is unusual in a few ways compared to my other books but most of that research was just watching john. >> host: you bang this out quickly, how long does it take? >> guest: i had the idea in january so i started talking about a. the january before i probably probably thought of trump or never thought of it now except that mexican rapists speech he won my heart forever. but still the primaries were going on and so even when i was talking with my agents and i was talking about it with publishers , had the idea and various people seem to like the idea, couldn't really seriously

force myself to start writing until ted cruz conceded. whenever that was. >> host: so april. >> guest: yes this is a fast turnaround so there are some errors. >> host: so how long did it take? >> guest: so that i turned it in i don't know, a month ago, so april whatever it was, may, june, july, and were in august now that actually seem like a long time. i can do that on one hand. spee1 that's a that's a lot of words of one day. >> host: in trump we trust. >> guest: e purpose awesome. i trust no one. but i do think, the things that i trust him on our his a basic philosophy putting america first

on trade, immigration, wars. he has made so many mistakes, little mistakes, he backtracks and gets back on bowen the entire media and i mean the entire media goes up to crush him after that mexican rapists speech it took me two weeks to believe that he was knocking to back down. i think it was longer than that when i started emailing with cory and every every once in a while i would send a point in you might want to mention x, y, and z. but for probably six months while we can figure out how long it was, however many points i had one would always be do not let him backed out on immigration. i think it i think it was after the muslim then i finally thought okay, he's not backing down. now i believe you. >> host: now he annoys you a little bit. >> host: no never really is a rhetorical thing. >> guest: i never thought deportation was going to be cute and humane. almost responding to

a media caricature. i wish he had phrased it differently. not use the resulting, not have this drip, drip and driving his supporters crazy and allowing the media to go crazy. can highlight this, were getting a wall, were going to be able to do his job, we're going to have a major cutback on muslim immigration, and and as for what's going to happen to the ball with the children and illegal immigrants why doesn't he just say, and by the way everything i just said is something that not have been under other presidents, not jab, review, walker, probably not romney. over 8,000,000 miles romney. over 8 million miles ahead of anything i ever imagined would happen in my lifetime. why doesn't he just say about what is going to happen with the illegals, the point is nobody has a right to be in this

country illegally. we as america will decide whether it's good for america whether you stay or go. we might want to keep you but it will be determined on the basis of this country's best interest not is what is in the best interest of someone who's not in not in america. >> host: how do you think a segment like that would be received. >> guest: fine. >> host: how would the press view that? >> guest: softening. >> host: so you live in an affluence code, and so presumably most of your neighbors are anti-trump. musty people in almost real life, most real life, you're from connecticut their anti- trump, what is it about trump that sets one edge the way does? >> guest: washington is much worse than any other place. >> host: the most anti- trump place. >> guest: it's like there's something in the water. i know to, to people who are not anti- trump in washington and i suspect like others there

drinking rainwater and grain alcohol because there something going on in this time. first of all, into of the main cities i'm in, new new york and l.a., i say that i have of approximately 30 of my top-tier and second-tier friends, immediately all but one were 100% pro trump. and that's both in new york and l.a. and that, to paraphrase donald trump, i love on educated. but i love lawyers, doctors, comedy writers, producers, smart, highly educated people instantly pro trump. only one in each city was anti- trump. in washington it was the reverse. and then, and other fancy locales, i'll tell you spent christmas in palm beach and walking around at christmas time in the polls i mean i know some

of the pro trump but that town was 100% i would say more chat than rubio. but they were all wandering around shellshocked thing, i don't understand it, we were all for jab and because it's also chock. >> host: so here you have the richest guy ever to run for president and rich people like them, why is that. >> guest: i think it's less the rich than, my experience does happen to be true, admittedly it's anecdotal. but i think washington versus palm beach, beverly hills, manhattan, manhattan actually tells us a lot. a lot of the rich people, they are two categories will find that which ones are patriots and which ones just want the cheap labor and want to be locus on america and then move onto the next country. we are finding out right now. but i think some of them are

perfectly patriotic, lovely people. they want the republicans win, they think is better for the country and they have been snowed by campaign consultants who say we have to get jab's are only shot. you have to give me 1,000,000 dollars a million dollars for jab. they're busy making millions of dollars. so i think okay, i'll write write a check for jab. trump has shown the wizard of oz , pull back the curtain and now they know, why am i wasting money on these idiots? they don't know their heads from a hole in the ground. >> host: why does the press him so much. >> host: here you have a candidate and i think there are a lot of reasons to be concerned about trump. here you have a candidate who says i'm here to represent the middle-class people without a voice, i'm against a rig system. traditionally think of think of the press has been a populist

institution on behalf of the people, that's what they tell themselves and the rest of us. yet almost to a person they have come out against trump and a various sort various sort away what is that about? >> guest: part of it is what we're just describing. benefits of illegal immigration and low-wage legal immigration. the wealthy people do. they have cheap gardeners, cheap means, the gardeners and the maids don't live in their neighborhoods, they live in the suburbs. so it's those, other people's emergency rooms that are being bankrupted. it's other people schools that cannot have pageants anymore because they're spending all their money on english as a second language classes. the media is part of that elite which is just utterly self-centered, force in the middle to subsidize their cheap labor. but the other part of it is, and that's the political part which

is probably what drives it most crazy, unless you're just on the verge, started with ten academies 1965 immigration act, obama putted into overdrive, clinton started but obama left clinton in the dust with -- bush did not slow down message. but with obama he slimed them in from central america and putting them, think the "daily caller" has written about it. i know i've read various articles about it. putting all these third world immigrants in states they need to flip blue. so the long-term plan of the kennedy democrats was over time we bring in a million immigrants per year, 90% third world, 8080% vote for the democrats, 60 years will have an unbeatable majority. suddenly they're looking at it next year. they are on the verge of the cusp of winning and along comes

trump. and says he's going shut it down. >> host: so it sounds like if you're to narrow down what makes trump so loathsome to the people of power it's his opposition to immigration and if you're near down what makes them so appealing to others, it's his opposition to immigration. so this is about immigration. >> guest: i think so. i love is no point worse in the middle east but i think immigration is a great unifier. >> host: even factoring in the fact that you wrote a book on immigration in heaven i knew my, you think there's evidence that this is what it's about. people say the exit polls don't say that were suggested as number one. >> guest: whenever they say that i look at what people do say is the number one issue. it's always things like jobs, terrorism, cultural changes. and also, americans are nice

people. i think they have the sense, especially with the media telling that this but if they say it's immigration it's as if they're saying something mean about immigrants. they're nice people, would like immigrants. as. as trump always says, he loves hispanics. that's one of my favorite tweets of all the things he has done, other than the mexican rapist speech. >> host: you like that mexican taco bowl speech. >> guest: my gosh it was so making fun of multiculturalism. it was hilarious. i love hispanics. [laughter] >> host: have an attack of both at taco bowl salad. >> guest: i don't think that's why people are voting for him but he is very funny. he is very politically incorrect. there is a big appeal.

>> guest: you know. >> host: you know trump an event following a closely what percentage would you say if his statements are ironic, sarcastic, designed designed for shock value to amuse him. like when he says mccann got captured and got a metal, other people captured were there metals, sensors to think. >> in fact i read about it in the book at one point. i think that was lied about. he was angry and lashing out and he deserves to be and when i wrote about that as it is the attack about reported i would say that either of them are more ironic or sarcastic but i think they are both lied about and he was justified in both cases. take the mccain case, these poor arizonans, they they have been so overwhelmed with the illegal immigration with girls being

raped, cattle being slaughtered, the princes knocked down. they have been overwhelmed with the illegal immigration begging the federal government to do something, the do something, the federal government will not to anything. they had that famous, papers law which required immigrants since 19 forties. i guess we've been living in the nazi state since the 1940s. so it was attacked by all of the bush, all of the bush people. i was outrageous and unconstitutional. so the law was if they're in the process of arresting someone, they suspected to be an illegal alien, illegal alien, they may ask her his immigration papers. and oh my gosh do you remember how that was denounced high and low. of it was upheld by the supreme court did you ever get the note of what happened on that. lindsey graham graham and the big constitutional scholar lindsey graham called on constitution. it was written by chris kovach, is unconstitutional.

after all of that, all the smearing, trump goes to do his first event after the mexican rapist speech in arizona. they shut down the first venue, too many people are coming. 20000 people in the have to rent a stadium. the day after it happens or the day it was happening, trump goes to the new yorker and calls them crazy. the american people who showed up at the trump rally. >> host: kane went to the new yorker to call these crazies. >> guest: that's what trump is angry about. he called mccain a dummy and said he graduated second from his classroom annapolis. then when his being interviewed by frank lund or wherever, he raises with donald trump and says wall was that presidential to call senator john mccain a dummy? he is a a war hero.

and so trump starts explaining look, i'm having a event and he call these people crazy and he said i reprint the whole thing trump says. i know crazy these people are not crazy be a lovely, decent decent americans. and when trump was explaining this lawn interrupts him to say but he is a war hero, he's a war hero. that is when trump said he's not a war hero, he got captured. i like people who were captured. or perhaps he was a war hero book, and then he goes on. was a flash of anger. again, oh well not again but it's in the book. when trump attacks he attacks the powerful on behalf of the decent long-suffering americans who are ridiculed and sneered out to the media all of the time. he was attacking on behalf of these nice americans were called crazy by john mccain. so. >> host: so mccain is powerful, hard to say that about the con

family. >> guest: fairpoint. but i think it's about time democrats put it into this human shield practice of sending out said victims to represent their policy proposals. it's a serious issue. they were not standing out there just to say that we are a muslim family. i want to honor my son. he was being sent out to claim to the american people that our constitution requires us to keep dumping more and more muslim americans of the country. i think americans have a right to dispute that. if you're going to send out someone we are not allowed to respond to, the kind just the debate down. this is what the west does. it's what i wrote about in godless with the jersey girls. they have these policy proposals when you attack them and that their husbands died but i have an idea what i write let someone else write the argument.

don't send out an angry muslim that we are not allowed to respond to waving our constitution at us and claiming absurdly that it requires us to keep and meeting muslim americans. i think most americans not know this we have admitted more muslim americans after nine/11 the before. >> host: of course. >> guest: we have more immigrants are muslim countries than immigrants from the entire british aisle. after san bernadino, 9/11 itself , this is an important public policy that is think americans have the right to discuss. democrats are going to find some orphan to set out their argument because oh, he can't respond. >> host: 's what x stent is the average american have any influence over him aggression policy. >> guest: a lot this november. >> host: is there polling on the level of knowledge the average person have about who is coming in and what numbers before the

celexa? >> guest: is more prominent now, thank you donald trump. i don't remember this being a public debate. in fact, in my book i cite trump's very first interview after the mexican rapist speech with bill o'reilly. the first the first question. isis. what are you going to do about isis. and then he went to syria, iran, the muslim brotherhood. probably into russia, ukraine, not one question on immigration. one month later o'reilly is introducing trump sink, illegal o'reilly is introducing trump saying, illegal immigration is not being dealt with in this country. that part is what fox has brought him to the top of the polls. he's in alabama 20000 people. >> host: so aren't you concerned whose instincts and impulses agree with he's got a ba of the lord of the articulate scale and this question. he might wind wind up discrediting the ideas that you care so much about. >> guest: eyes worried about that at first.

but you take the rough with the smooth. he has this boisterous breaking personality that attracts a lot of people. people start listening because they want to be entertained. is very entertaining. people are driving five and six hours to hear him. probably a lot lot of them were not going because they thought he believes everything i thought. some of them at least in part, some are just going because they knew he was very entertaining. but then you're there and you hear them. you're laughing and having a good time. it's funnier than it's funnier than listening to a standup comedian a lot of the time. then it hits you, wait, i agree with this guy. he is making some good points. >> host: i think that has happened on a big scale. the question is what if he loses what happens?

so in california 20 years later people have to start a view of what happened. so trump loses what the message from everyone in washington say this is what happens when you run on immigration. it's a hateful subject, inherently. never do that again. shut up and obey. >> guest: i don't think so i don't think it will matter. i will get to the i don't think so first, or second. if trump loses the country is finished. what you do, i do, fox news, talk radio, it's i guess you can still do your stuff of the country's finish, because it hillary's dead. she is granting amnesty to at least 30 or 40 million. maybe as many as 50 or 60,000,000 million. >> host: where do you get that number. >> guest: well it's in my last

book. we have been saying 11,000,000, you should be suspicious about that we've been hearing that for more than a decade now. we haven't got one more illegal alien? all of the estimates sa 11,000,000 11 million are based on the census that asks people are you here legally. many people thought that perhaps having struggled across the desert with risked death, broken laws, stolen ids to get here, they may, they may not be filling out government surveys accurately. so first there's an analyst who is advising people about something apart, their money, they said it's insane. we can trust these. all of the groups came to the same 11 million because they're using the census report. so what the two analysts looked at were remittances of money back to mexico, and they wanted to look at it league alien

hotspot where it's know that there are illegal aliens in certain towns in new jersey and other places and looked at school enrollment and housing permits. among other things, but it was a massive intensive study and on the basis of that they determined that the 20 billion more than a decade ago and then there are two think bartlett and steele to famous investigative reporters who won pulitzer prizes. they spent a year investigating illegal immigration, also also a decade ago about a year after the stern report. one year they spent doing this and the estimated that 3 million illegal aliens were coming in per year. so you start with a 20 million and then you assume it is only one third of that 3,000,000 were coming in for the next ten years, we are already at 30 million. it is very high. and then.

>> host: so were hovering a little less than 10% of population. >> guest: it may seem strange in the northeast, that does that does not seem strange at all at the southwest. >> host: so the first reason the country will not recovers immigration and people here legally. >> guest: that's it. democracy democracy committing suicide. he wants to quadruple the number of muslim refugees. a lot of conservative media say that's great if hillary is like to wear going to make more money. well know, if you can't win a game anymore ask people how interested they are in local los angeles politics. not that interested anymore. when all all you do is lose, lose, lose, so i do think the country is over and i'm sorry for those of you with children for those of you who need jobs or those of you who came here because he wanted to live in america. it's going to be over. john adams that all democracies commit suicide and if hillary is elected there's no point in writing politics all right

mysteries. >> sodas the country, that point? >> the tower of babel, brazil. what will happen as the presidents of indonesia said this in interview with the financial times about a decade financial times about a decade ago. it's a somewhat famous quote among the immigration about myself. it's a famous quote, he said why he had blocked immigration. in any event he said what happens in a multicultural society is not -- people don't split off and go by political party they vote by ethnic group. . .

as you know we get donald trump. >> guest: they are thrown out of the party. it's the greatest thing he did. >> host: why is that idea crazy if this was in place. if you are one of the two main political parties why wouldn't

you increase your appeal. >> guest: the problem is they are idiots and their idea is like the democrats but offer them off as much as so we will give you amnesty and affirmative action for making up slavery and jim crow. the children of the foreign diplomat dictators and warlords. african-americans are losing to those people. >> host: is its diversity or strength?

>> guest:. it's the real tragedy in all this would be if we gave up our diversity. the institutions have been so successful. >> to maintain their status as one of the main parties in the appeal? >> guest: he's doing it in a way that the republican party is a. they should be acknowledging this ethnic identity politics.

i'm going to speak to you as chinese, no, they are happy here. bring the jobs back. that's the great unifier. that's why i like the taco bell to leave. he was making fun of the people of ethnic groups. what do you think when he says that hispanics love me. >> guest: i think african-american voters do. >> host: it's possible just so they can beat donald trump in

the poll. >> guest: it does. i don't believe this poll. i just think either the black turnout will be down. i think she does have an appeal. we want to keep bringing in a illegal immigrants. i'm sorry i think a lot of blacks are saying -- >> host: if your family has been here and being released -- you are describing the republican party that has been transformed into those different things than six months ago. >> guest: date had been

fooling me. >> host: why hasn't trump spawned and there are people building a framework for the new political movement to say goldwater. >> guest: >> host: he thought about what he represented and there were books about it. >> guest: to the next question it's kind of pointless to talk about but i don't think the ideas will be discredited when you have paul ryan coming out against the partnership after getting a standing ovation from the coke brothers saying don't

worry, we are going to push this through. i think they realize what you're pushing isn't popular and god bless those sanders supporters. i've never seen leftist hack alerts that were wrong -- the word articulate and giving real reasons saying she doesn't help the working class. two of them talked about the transpacific partnership and sending jobs abroad. >> host: kind of sweet and sincere. >> guest: i don't know how much this counts but we are acknowledging what's popular when we know they need to lie to the voters.

>> host: you would think a massive change in the magazine pieces in the books what are the others explaining what this means and do you fear some people are reading ideas to want to see there've been perhaps that's not what he means. >> guest: he has been a businessman in his whole life. we've been through this a million times before. the internet blew up and the next day he issued another. >> host: but reagan wouldn't have said maybe it's not a big deal. on his court issued he knew what he thought.

>> guest: that's true but they have different advantages and disadvantages. donald trump was in the world of ideas and you could wake him up in a deep sleep and he knows whose side he's on, the american working class. he's always been for the working class and against trade deals. it's more recently he figured out immigration dumping low-wage workers was hurting the middle class. where his heart is a solid. he would say american boys shouldn't be dying for another war in the middle east right now, no, i thought he was better on the trade deal than ronald reagan.

>> host: was that a tough pill to swallow? >> guest: i was a bigger supporter of ann donald rumsfeld. i stand by it. most of my friends agreed with me. we didn't have individual attacks. it's kicked up since we haven't been there. i do think it was important for a lot of reasons and that was just to taunt the liberals with. if they get away where do they end up? i think he was trying to get weapons of mass destruction.

he attempted to assassinate a former president of the united states and it was a populace led by the crazy leader. it's always one or the other. either you have a crazy leader with the same people or saying leader with insane people. you want to go for the ones with the people are pro-western and educated and literate. that was way back and it was great but then i put the blame on barack obama for pulling out every single last resort. he had to turn victory into a defeat but having said that, whether the people that say it was always doomed to failure including some of my friends at this point it's water under the

bridge. we could argue that was a failurthis was afailure or whosw look at what has happened since then. why would we do it again? all these people that he thought were our allies -- i've been asking my friends at dinner for a few months now and i think one or two of my friends were against from the beginning because they said that it would inevitably be a disaster. perhaps they have a poin point e i am right, whatever. >> host: so your position is that is open for debate. >> guest: we are looking at these crazed warmongers and think everything they used to

accuse of our our allies. it's the only game they know. no one cares about their opinion amongst the car at four. >> host: tell us what would happen. the people who opposed all of trump it isn't just on his issues or temperament on the grounds that he's a threat to the country and a bad person for an authoritarian takeover of the country. could those people ever accept him as a legitimate president? >> guest: if they believe this will be a takeover they know they are losing their power and they will have to do with marco

rubio tells the poor, improve your education, go back to school. we don't need all the posters. go back to school he has a plan to help you further your education. adapt to the changing economy. >> host: so you are not concerned that you would feel a factor in the country we are not acknowledging his authority whatever that means. >> guest: it will be hysterical. >> host: is he responsible for bringing some of those people over? >> guest: if they go around saying he's adolph hitler in a fascist i think at some point they have to see he's not adolf hitler in a fascist.

it's going to be great because he will renegotiate trade deals. i wants manufacturing back in the country. it's all for what has been done in the name of the religion of the free trade. we used to have 20 million manufacturing jobs and we are down to 11 million on a lower population. we don't make anything here anymore. if he does nothing but renegotiate trade deals, build a wall, let isis do its job, pretty severe damper on more muslim immigration key will be the greatest president since washington if he does nothing else, get rid of obamacare. >> host: do you think that he's interested in running the country and it's not simply

about winning? >> guest: he genuinely loves the country and saw so many things going on he can fix. in that opening speech he said something to the effect if we don't stop this now it's going to be unsalvageable and i will say this i think he can fix it and the rest of them can't. just to get back to america for americans. i don't know if you notice i devoted the book. this is the first time in his life he will vote republican. we went to a party about a month ago and there were all these nice republicans. they said texcept maybe looked d

he's a liberal democrat. >> guest: but he is with immigration. most sounds like your politics have changed. everything is changed at high speed. what have you re-examined? >> guest: when you probably correctly said you always knew i thought they did care about the working class and middle class and not just the business roundtable. i think it was much better. one was the amnesty but number two when i was kid we were all

for reagan so a lot of people came to washington and there's all this younthere wasall this n washington and it seemed like it was going to be a great thing because the permanent bureaucracy think tanks were liberal democrats and republicans would come in and everyone else in the city working against them so you would have the foundations and washington times. but that has turned out to be a curse. the >> host: is that fair we have

these conservative think tanks and defend the net result is that it's more conservative than it was in 08. you think because they have a cultural incentive to keep things the same. >> guest: and they need the money. >> host: so there were people go from washington. is it conceivable he will do that? that this is your addiction to beat the addition by subtracti subtraction. [laughter] when he said the other day if i don't then that's okay i will go on a long vacation did it occur to you that might be offensive

to two people who are sincerely concerned and watched hillary clinton vote bowed out other contenders for the job and then he's like i don't need the job? >> guest: hearing that from the beginning it's weird that the press has been saying and it shows you the power of propaganda and the press. a friend of a friend said to me do you think he really wants to be president? he works harder than any other human i've ever seen. the one thing that goes wrong

with his life is the love for the country. >> guest: has this affected your friendships? >> guest: i think i lost one friend. we ended this problem we had. after ted cruz withdrew he sent me an e-mail asking them not to e-mail him again. he is anti-trump. he's not a kind souls that were posted and not what happened

will happen this time around. i think he's the best candidate we have run but as people run none of them endorsed romney. as they dropped out they would endorse anybody. >> host: he was regarded that way by people who knew him well. i'm saying romney seemed like

cruz. >> guest: every place he's gone, kindergarten, the senate, we keep reading about and now we see why. >> host: white hasn't trump given a speech and fear of the supporters expressed the speeches the way to tell what you think. you can't misinterpret it on the prompter. here's what i would do. >> guest: he's talked a lot about it. he had one scheduled and now that's been unscheduled.

how many transgender d. you think there are in america? >> guest: over a dozen. >> host: let's estimate up and say 500. there's more transgender in america than worrying about the security of those that entered illegally. why are we spending any time discussing this? >> guest: >> host: good question. why not the workers taking white collar jobs how about a little time on that. >> guest: he responds to every question posed to him.

we want to run a referendum. why wouldn't you turn it back to the issue? >> guest: it's more about what he believe. that's not the point. >> guest:. it's such a stupid point. he wants to change it so that it will be made here. >> guest: when you watch on television do you call people or

his campaign? do you think that he listens? >> guest: dot to me that he totally listens to criticism and we have seen over and over again he will make mistakes and then a discourse. very smart. he's going in the direction we want to go. they kept asking for no politi politics. he would say give three examples and moveon.

i usually don't put i got this chapter and i thought you were getting the 58 examples. then he had a policy paper but no one bought ahead of the modem saying i want to go to the moon. what is your policy on the plaintiff and then? he's going to go in that direction i understand the first time he said he have to suspend a. a. i understood immediately and

they didn't take the steps so many in the media have. king abdullah? when he comes out with the muslim terrorism country i figured that's what he meant. >> host: has he read the book and do you think he agrees with that? >> guest: there were a few things he might not like. >> host: what do you think he will not? >> guest: he is smart and some of that was returne it was writm back up but also i hear an

attack on the bureau charles murray. did you get to that yet? i'm really appalled. they are the ones that are the superficial snob's? can we get beyond that? >> guest: the book in trump we trust."

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