plus douglas on the lessons u.s. presidents learned during the first years in office. john on new york city's impact on the civil war. i'm a grim elbow on the positive and negative aspects of studying abroad. go to book tv.org tv.org for the complete we can schedule. >> now, conversation on the congressional agenda with new york congressman tom reed, from, from "washington journal", this is 35 minutes.tom reed >> joining us now is a congressman tom reed, republican from new york state.. he is a donald trump supporter and is here to talk about that.s as well as congress's agenda, thank you for joining us this morning. t >> thank you for having me on. i appreciate it. >> up first, the republican are in a conference later this morning to talk about the strategy related to funding the

government beyond september thirtieth. what what you expect of that? >> we have a good friendly conversation. that's why i appreciate ryan paul to set a tone where he wants to have these conversations. i'm confident we'll come up with a resolution that gets usit goe. through september 30 deadline. we'll see where it goes. >> the hill talks a little bit about the move to fund congress and says that house speaker ryan faces new pressures from house conservatives, year after the freedom caucus pressure from john boehner to resign as speaker, members of the group have been threatening the successor, members are still furious over new speakers that he didn't tomorrow to help representative of kansas and his failed bid this summer. they're pressuring ryan to vote to impeach the commissioner in the coming days, what he think

about the freedom caucus in these conservative colleagues in their efforts to in these threats? >> i do appreciate each member in their right to express himself. they represent their district. they were elected by their people to bring their voice to washington d.c. and the manner they so choose. o but i'm always hopeful and trying to be part of the efforts in the congress to bring people together. this is not about threatening her about putting down a markero that you lock yourself in, never say what you will never do so to speak is good advice i learned early on in my tenure. with the freedom caucus they have their opinions but we can get thro get through this and we will get through this. >> host: we are talking to congressman tom reed of new york, democrats can call democrats and independents.

now you supported donald trump early on. have your views change since march 20 for supported him? >> now when we look at the presidential cycle in the presidential election this is a binary choice. we have to choose. knowing where hillary clinton is, what her agenda is, the status quo of establishment type of mindset that she's can bring to the table, look table, look at donald trump is an opportunity. here in 2 as an agent of change, disruptor, someone is going to do something in washington. when i came in 2010i came to thousand ten i came to change the culture washington d.c. and i think donald trump gives us a chance to do that. >> host: let's take a look at what donald trump said recently and now come back to for your response. >> she's always talking about things that she's going to do. but she's been there for more than 30 years. and she's never done anything about it. never done anything.k and all you have to do is look

at new york state when she ran for senator. she said she will bring jobs back to new york state, it's a disaster. a disaster. no jobs have come back. jobs have left. they have left new york upstate new york in the area she was talking about, they are disastrous. all you all you have to do is look at new york state. she said choose going to bring tremendous jobs back, it will be wonderful just like she say now. she wouldn't know how to bring a job back.in she would not have a clue. so, it's all talk but nothing happens.ld is ta >> host: do you agree that upstate new york where you're from is a disaster? >> i live in the house my grandpa built in 1921, i've been living there my entire life, love and older brothers and sisters. my mom raised me in that same house when my father passed and i know what he's talking about. our area at times has great success and it has pockets of

great success. are people that are struggling in areas of upstate muster new york that are struggling. he he is absolutely correct. we need to do better and we need to do better for a manufacturing base. that's why think trump gives us that opportunity. >> what you think he'll do to make it better. >> guest: is a private base person. he's a a business guy. he doesn't have 30 years like clinton of working in bureaucracy and their entire careers based on being an elected official. he's going to bring those business models and bring the commitments to economic prosperity through job development that he has donea hd personally. that is a huge difference between him and clinton. >> host: we have collars to talk to. here is terrain from connecticut on our independent line. good morning you are on the airl >> caller: good morning, how are you. it's good to see this morning, looking good. but i don't agree with anything that donald says when it comes to vladimir putin and say that

he's going to bring back jobs and saying all of these i different lies that he is saying so many i can't keep up with them. he seemed so many and i fact fact check everything he says. i fact check it myself to make sure what he is saying, is an ally or truth? he's tell so many lies that i can't keep up anymore. >> host: okay.ke >> caller: vladimir putin? i don't think that is even a good idea. you know people went to war to fight with russia to keep america safe. >> host: let's let congressman respond to that. last this week he double down on his support for his appraiser putin and says he prefers him over the president. >> guest: during, i respect your opinion and a plunger your effort to fact check. i firmly believe in it.ut in the age of the internet there's a lot of information on there but there's a lot of misinformation. i plot her for doing that. why talk about donald trump's a commitment to securing america,

think what he references putin he's looking at where ourti potential allies, where the enemies of our enemies of our friends? so trying to align interest is something that he's trying to tap into. i support that because if weth have a common enemy and a common threat and even though we might not have a relationship or might not be the closest allies today, maybe try to develop that relationship so we can accomplish what we want to do in america and that's keep a safe. >> trump said earlier this week that he could win new york state, state that has not gone to a republican in recent memory, do you think he can? >> i don't give don't give up hope, on the eternal optimist. my mom taught me that has a single other raising 12 of us, tell you were to keep fighting for but the reality, but practical person new york is a heavy blue state and when you have the city of new york in particular he's going to do vert

well he'll do very well upstate and across the state, it's an issue that really is generated from the concentration of blue voters in the city in my opinion. >> cap next we have passed are calling from ithaca, new york.ng good morning. >> caller: good morning, thank you, this is pastor michael and before i start i would like to thank you and everyone behind the scenes every day that make these programs possible. it is an invaluable source ofs e hearing everyone and constituents across the country. i'm glad to be able to speak to you first directly because last year your staff was instrumental after a medicare benefit for tew years was wrongly taken out of my weekly benefits at the social security disability, over $10000

was taken out and did recruitaco $6600 that went to pay my rent in ithaca. i found a place to live and i talked with michael bloomberg at the table and he left 50% of us filling out this section eight and 2009, that was reported on december 9, 2010 on the front page of the new york times. what i'd like to ask. what i'd like to ask you to work with me on now for all of us, especially people living with disabilities and myself, peace corps veteran who has gone back three times after wrongly fired, after digging digging the grave of a woman who messed titus and i had worked with dairy cows and a woman with a beef so to speak, you can do it within seven days and it wasn't done in i thought i was fired.

that said, i have not given up, however, social services and atd the, and the policies in the county do not recognize that we have a section eight which i finally got in june. i like everyone to have a source of income equality. it's done in new york city, they passed a a law that you cannot discriminate when renting because of where your income comes from. >> caller: i'm in a motel on the taxpayers dime and been cut down to food stamps for 53 cents per day. >> host: i want to make sure we have a chance response. >> guest: i appreciate you calling in to hear a voice from the district it brings mice

smile to my face. i'm glad were able to help you out. that's mission number one in our offices taken care of constituents. we just passed the 10,000's milestone, i'd keep track of his stuff keep track of this stuff and try to bring a private business philosophies ta the table. 10,000 families we been able to help and it sound like we've been able to help you in your situation. on the issues that you're raising, we want to work with everybody, we want to work on the issues that youe raise and making sure that people who are going through a hard time in life where life is for them a curveball. i'm not an individual on the republican side that says we can't do anything because government should be doing that. there is a role for for government. it has to be reasonable ande and temporary. one of the things were losing in this big dependency government philosophy, and out ofit sho washington is that it should be based on the individual not the government. i applaud the work that you're doing and let's work together. >> host: let's talk about donali trump you support and that support me be being used as a campaign issue for lawmakers,

several of your colleagues including this report from cnn which says on a better republican joe had told the cnn on wednesday that he trusts donald trump trump to have his finger on the nuclear button, less than 24 hours later it became the centerpiece of a newh ad against his candidacy for the hotly contested open senate seat in nevada. one democratic seat republicans have a reasonable chance of winning this november. another example of the risks republicans in close contact take when they allied themselves with trump. are you worried about his effect on down ticketo races? >> guest: no. he is a great member of congress and a great individual. his resume i would put up against any person of the world what he's been able to accomplish. so all individual candidates are in a great positiontheir c to wr

campaign. what a lot of this is being driven by his politics in washington dc. this is what they do. i trust the collective wisdom of the american people i trust the wisdom of the voter. and as it during indicated doing the work, she's verifying. that's what i'm come across in the district. people are doing the work to become informed, educated, engaged voters. i respect that and trust the will of the voter. >> up next is john calling in from south hampton pennsylvania. >> a morning. >> good morning. >> it is a pleasure. all i would like is about half the time that you give the pastor. i have a couple of questions ine a couple of comments. immigration is really is what has been donald trump's campaign and what ultimately won him the nomination more than anything else. i'm a strong supporter of numbers usa which is a very

mainstream organization, 3 million members. i would request that you wouldou have the president, right back as a future guess. but here's my observation. in the elite press, new york times, times, wall street journal, washington post, on day one i read about how we need more immigration for science, technology, it, we don't have the workers in the same article they'll say we need more unskilled workers to do the picking of the crops, cleaning the questions kitchens and whatever. the same thing they tells aboutm robots robots and how were making such dramatic improvements. all of the jobs, all they'reuck talking about within ten yearsdr they're going to be eliminated to truck drivers, the bus drivers. they're going to be uber is

going to be eliminated. y >> host: he said he had a question for the congressman,or what is that? spee3 my question is, pbs which is publicly funded and i don't know what percentage of their funds are publicly funded, but it is the most highest, i have never seen, this is a new thing in american politics, in the the mainstream media being so one-sided, so dishonest that they do not give even in a tent, they don't even pretend to be impartial. and to give both sides and even shot, they're so biased against the republicans come against donald trump specifically it's a disgrace. >> host: let's give congressman th time. i want to know first that we have had right back on the show. what you think think of pbs. >> guest: i appreciate the sentiment. there is, there is a by two a m lot of the media that is out

there.by and that objectivity that old-school journalism and i'm not putting kimberly into the pool, but we are kinda losing that in american media. i hope it comes back. in this day and age we have to deal with the cards that we have been dealt. one thing that we can do to overcome any biases again do the work. we need to make sure were not reliant on soundbites. people are looking at the internet that uses it as a tool to get the information. so going back to what terrain said. she's doing the work. i encourage all americans to do the same and we have a resource and a very accessible internet and a very assessable lines information to check and get your own information. so trust and verify is what ronald reagan said. >> were talking to august time rate from new york.arre a member of the ways and means committee.

on the issue of immigration which came up a moment earlier,i the piece into this new york time, talked about how that issue is also facing some of your colleagues as they seek reelection pointing to illinois republican robert j dole who is a support of immigration reform. says several of the most ardent republican supporters of immigration overhaul are locked in a pure selection fight leaving more conservative party in the house there be less willing to negotiate on fixing the immigration system. what you think about the immigration fight and are you concerned about its effect on the election? >> its effect on election will take care of itself. but the real issue is how are we going to fix immigration question mark's problem and and it means to be salt. been part of that on a bipartisan basis to say that we recognize it. immigration in in america hasn't been touched or reformed in decades.

so let's start the conversation and let's do something about it. what donald trump is doing is taking the right course in the sense of the first issue that has to be addressed is how were going to secure our border. he is raising a more question, do we want to border at all. sometimes my colleagues on the other sites in a message that we don't want to border without my not having a border that were part of this global family. i disagree with that. i think we need a secure border, we are all the and daughters of immigrants. my grandfather the same house he built as a boy on the steamship and he befriended a local gentleman who gave him a job ora that's how we came to america and i now serve in the u.s. house of representatives. that's the american story. our immigration policy has made a stronger generation but we need a policy that secures the border to make sure national security concerns and fellow citizens are safe. that we have a policy not tor

harm her american worker and actually promote opportunities for everyone. that we can get into the issues once you secure the border you can get into the issues of temporary help and things like h2 a, h1 b, b, the different programs out there tot utilize different sources of immigration issue. >> what about the estimatedig 11 million immigrants who are are here, do you support any path to lee's legalization to any of them? >> limit them may put you in on a secret. everybody knows that's round roundup 11 million people and somehow ship them back to the country is not going to work, it's not practical, it's just reality. i'm an optimist but a realist. what we have to do is come up with a solution up with a solution that deals with that problem. one of the things that i put on the table and i've talked about, no citizenship if you violated the rule but maybe the penaltycs you pay is that you lose your

citizenship opportunity. you can be here, you get legal status and i've talked to illegal immigrants and what they say is i can stay here and i can go back and visit my family and i don't have to go through that horror of being smuggled into the country? and i also say and then we'll see your kids who are young had no part of that decision, no responsibility, responsibility, they can apply for citizenship. that's the american dream. a pet illegal immigrants say i be willing to accept that because that's why i came here to better the lives of my children and if you give the opportunity to do that they would accept that. >> and now lee with congress congressman tom reed. >> hello. good morning and i love you all. and it, and the question. i'm the proud gay son of loving parents from council ball, iowa. they taught me love and accepted me in love. because they understood the

totality of the teachings of the one jesus christ, most republicans which don't grasp at that. my loving parents did. i don't don't know how, but they did. some a question is or my statement, would be i also have a disabled brother who lives in omaha, nebraska. and you can get so my question a is, how can he sit there with a smile on your face and smirk pretend to know jesus' loving teachings .. trump making making mocks at disabled -- >> guest: i know where your criticism is coming from. obviously i don't agree with everything that donald trump has said. but i am one of the individuals working in the campaign in a private way tos, express those comments, those criticisms and say we need to focus on the american people's f problems. and that type of rhetoric that i oppose and obviously disagree r

with what donald trump did in that regard, it's not acceptable. and i made that known. but we have to make a choice, we have to have a choice in the selection and when you look at the policy of hillary clinton and look at what she represents a look she represents a look at the opportunity that donald trump represents, i'm opportunity of donald trump is bringing to the table. when it comes to your sons and daughters and i have 11 older brothers and sisters like i said. i've been taught the same lesson that you have been taught. one of the things i tried to bring to this job is that when you see wrong, you stand up for it. that's one of those things that i'm different from other republicans. on the lesbian gay vote on the floor in the house i was one of the few on our side that consistently supported a non-discriminatory policies that protected those individuals.

also have supported the voter rights act. a good friend of mine, john lewis went to selma together and served on the ways and means committee. these are good people i can embrace and ande city tnation is wrongnas let's have policies that respect that. >> donald trump is seeking to bolster his support among conservatives. he will be speaking it the voters, the values voters summit as pointed out in the washington times today, the republican presidential nominee isshe is headlining the 2016 voters summit and the nation's capital today. the first. the first day of the three-day annual conference hosted by the family resource council. mr. trump and mike pence will address the gathering of voters tomorrow evening, just a programming know, donald trump's remarks at the summit will beve carried live on c-span at 2:05 p.m. it will be in c-span2. you can check those out there.od but what you think about this push towards conservatives and you think it will possibly alienate other voters?uing o

>> guest: i think this is part of the effort of his continued outreach to voters across america.ca that is something that also that i so appreciate about donald trump and his campaign. he is everywhere. he is showing up across the country. he went to mexico, hillary, i don't, hillary, i don't see her as much on thehe campaign trail i see hr hidden behind the scenes. i see him engaging in different areas in the country that i appreciate. when he went to detroit, it'sth just not talking the talk him as walking the walk. it's what we did when we were taking our antipovertyan initiatives and taken the lead in washington on those issues to take on poverty and an away. i went to inner-city cleveland. i went to the inner city of rochester with the democratic mayor and walk their street. said we need to do something different. we have poverty in rural parts of america. we need to be out there and show up and talk to people.

one of the things i was told in rochester and cleveland is where you hear? your republican, you don't care. i found it interesting but not offensive but, it was eye-opening. it's because we don't show up and i recognize that. that's a criticism ipad of our party in the sense that we need to go, we can't just talk the talk. we need short. that's why i'm helping out and supporting michael faulkner who for mayor for new york city. he is an african-american leader in the d community. is a republican. he is a proud republican. what he says is we need to go where we haven't gone before that's what we'll continue to do and i think that's what trump is doing here's continuing to spread the message of what he believes forr a greater america for tomorrow. >> on the issue of reaching out to african-american voters, something i'll talk to later with your colic. on that issue what you think are some of the language that donald trump has you saying that african-americans have no jobs,

if they go outside they'll get shot, do you agree with that? the rhetoric of donald trump is something unique and political history. i will let let him speak for his rhetoric and that type of conversation that he brings to the table. what what he's trying to touch into is the problem. the problem. we've had had this warm poverty for decades. a lot of it has resulted in nothing. we spent $2,022,000,000,000,000 on this issue and never move the needle. who is bearing bearing the heavy load in this failure? it's inner-city american. minority populations. we can't continue the status quo. we need to break that cycle. so the comments in the issues i appreciate and i appreciate the tone and the concern and rhetoric and i bring that back to the campaign privately. because that's how i operate. at the at the end of the day, he's highlighting a problem and he's highlighting a new way to take on the problem rather than maintaining the status quo. >> host: another empire state

caller on her independent. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i have a twofold question. first well, i'm very appalled at your support of donald trump. he is against any kind of morals. i grew morals. i grew up in catholic school and words matter. in the way you say things matter.r. second of all, you're pretty safe to support him in the 23rd district, you you know it's pretty gerrymandered. i have supported -- was a corny night before you. so i put blame on both sides of the aisle sometime. but in this instance it's very disappointing that you're supporting him.ut second of all, i live in the city of omar which is gone completely downhill. i don't see anybody doing anything about it. there is a questions when you put to cool presents in a small city whether we could support a prison population that is

setting up shop here, bringing gun violence that we never had in the city, that until the last couple of years i have not seen any outreach for you or any other interaction between democrats and republicans except within the city to try to solve the problems that they're having in the city of amara. >> host: let's get a chance to respond. >> i appreciate you calling in from the district and from a mira just on the road from us. i respect your disagreement with us, i truly do and i understand it. we will continue to have conversations even though we may disagree on that issue and you may not support us going forward. but the bottom line is i represent everyone in the 23rd district and we try to make yourself assessable and listen to people. we've gone into the city and i know over the break we wereere right there on the park on the river with a group of individuals that were highlighting programs that were working. it was bringing food to the kids

in the park for their summer break area otherwise they wereth hoing to lose. that's one of the things were trying to do and work in a bipartisan way were trying to deliver policies to move the needle for places like the city of bell mira. we can't give up. we need to keep going and i respect the differences but we can together get it done. >> annexes dorothy calling in from kansas. >> caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i have a couple of things that k would like to address please and i vote for the person, not for the party. and number two is, i would like to know, i'm 82 and i taken medication, his little hand hell symbicort and it cost over $800. a little breather. you know and i would like to have the government do something about the high cost of medication. >> okay let's talk about that.

>> guest: were seen that repeatedly. your situation is an example, that the pen is a recent recent high profile example of it. and so the question is where doa we go. you really have two tools available to you in my opinion you have government mandate where the government comes in and says this is going to be the price and that's what you get or, you believe in a market-based system where you bring individual consumers and individuals into the equation and force the price down through transparency and holding accountable the marketplace to make sure it's driving the cost down. that's what i'm supporting. bring transparency to the transaction. that's what i support what i support going to the epipen situation find oum where the pricing comes from how to do happen and why do people know about it. what you'll find is government washington tries to take over with healthcare is that your driving the transparency into the bureaucracy. >> that can't be allowed. we need to make sure that sunlight is the best connectivity and

make sure we hold each of the people accountable. >> we have bonnie calling in for jefferson city honor democratic line.. you are on with the congressman. we have a few seconds left. >> caller: good morning, thank thank you for taking my call. i would like to preface my question please i was a democrat but after hillary embarrassed and jeopardized our country, i am no longer democrat. i have been watching for the par republican party and i'm very happy with what is going on there. but my question is about everyone keeps on saying that the immigration level is 11,000,000 people. i don't know if they ever counted noses or not, but i don't feel i don't feel that there are 11 million people, if it was there is a more accurate number to go by that would be one thing.one thin but one thing i do like about

mr. trump's plan is to get the criminals away, to get the gangs away in the drugs away. i'm glad to see that you are for mr. trump, but how come everyone keeps talking about 11 million people and why can't the rest of the republican party come behind mr. trump and assisted instead of working against him? >> host: just a few seconds left. >> guest: i do believe that we are coalescing. it's becoming close it's a two-party choice, it's a two-person choice. hillary represents one path and don't trump represents another. were going down the path of change and disruption. i think that's disruption. i think that's good for washington and we need that pressure. >> host: harassment time read from new york, thank you for joining us this morning. >> also on washington journal,

new york congressman covering gregory meeks discusses the 2016 campaign and outreach to minority voters. this is 35 minutes. >> joining us now is congressmaa gregory meeks. he is here to talk to us about the way this development in the presidential campaign including outreach efforts by both donald trump and hillary clinton to black voters, good morning and thank you for joining us let me get to theies. outreach efforts towards minorities. so far far i want tp talk to and pull out a quote that you gave to the observer recently about donald trump's efforts to reach out to black voters. he said trump has repeatedly shown himself to be a bigot who repeatedly out to white supremacists and white ring extremist. you look at his history and his discriminating lies about our community and what he did in

regards to our president, and you know with reference to his birth certificate, his relationship to white supremacy he has shown that the african american community he has no concern for our well-being whatsoever. clearly you don't mix words. can you expand upon that and you still believe that. >> guest: how do you judge a person? there's two ways. by their actions and their deeds.their ac that's all you can do. and so if you just look at the actions and the deeds of mr. trump, clearly you see that he has made big tory remarks, he has lied and therefore he iser what i consider a con man in the worst kind of comment, the the one that out and out lies in front of your face and airs you to check them and when you do check him he still lies about it. and that has happened over and over in this campaign. that, i don't know i tried to

look at the best of individuals but were talked about selecting someone to be the next president of the united states you do havn to check out who they are. and the only way to know you can do that is by their words and their deeds. you go to his deeds from the very beginning, with the racial discriminatory practices within. his father in their business, you look at what he did to the central park five, never apologizing, coming up with the ad in the local newspaper to pay 85,000 dollars for it and they were showing that they did not commit it and he never said anything about it. you look at the remarks when he started out with the president of the united states and then had one african-american and you look at the words he used in regards to mexican-americans and muslims. how else can you judge him?in so there's no question in my

mind that he tries to flip-floph and go to well he's been in newb york, all of his professional career.h he's been to a black church onea time when he went to detroit and is going to make us think that he's really reaching out to the african-american community question that's,. >> host: he says that democrats have taken the african-american growth vote for granted and there democrats, or black voters, black america cans do make less and are more prone to live in poverty places, do you think that democratic policy has failed the americans? >> know if you look at these things are going up and down. clearly if you look at unemployment it was going down under bill clinton, went up under george bush, it's gone down some under brock obama. so there's policies, but when you think about it we have to deal

better, course with race and eliminate those disparities but we also have to deal better with poverty in america. that's why clyde has come out with some call ten, 20, 32 i limited poverty. if you want to blame poverty on democrats in predominantlyt african-american communities then he have to blame poverty on the republicans in places like appellation other areas where there are whites in a number of whites in poverty. >> host: the charlotte observer points out that hillary clinton is facing an enthusiasm gap among some black voters. it it says that she has campaigned with president obama at the asu charlotte convention center, but not long after a new report underscored the lack of enthusiasm for her among many young african-american voters. what you think she needs to do to convince young voters and in particular young black voters. >> you see that happening now as

we get into september and people really focusing on think you'll hear that i she moving forward in the debate process. when he talked about and look at what they are proposing to do as president, you look at her plans with reference to investing in urban and rural america but urban america, creating jobs and opportunities and making sure that everybody has a role in that, that better education for the young folks i know when she was a senator in new york shewa was fine proponent for publicc education and things like the eagle academy for boys. to to try to make sure they get what they need so it's an investment in the future. i look at what she has stood for and what she is proposing as the next president of the united states. and you can see how she can l build upon the progress that president obama has made over the last eight years. >> we have a lot of callers waiting to speak with you of

first we have burning calling in for ohio on our democratic line. good morning. >> caller: good morning, beari with me because i'm on oxygen 24/seven. i have two comments about donald trump. donald trump says that he wantss to make america great. but when he builds his buildings, he goes and gets green card holders from mexico and have them build thedings. buildings. the only way you can make america great is to haveve good american people have good payi' jobs. >> host: let's let the congressman respond to that point. >> guest: that style trumps

let's make america great again? what you mean by that, because barack obama became the 44th president of the united states, to me that was an undertone that he was utilizing because of that presidency. or apsley right, again, you judge a person by their actions. if you actions. if you look at his business actions in the past when people talk about his business judgment he's been successful, will you can't do what he has done as a business person as president of the united states. you. you can file bankruptcy when the government, we were dealing with the budget as he has done with his business has failed because he made bad business decisions to cause them to fail. so look at what he has done oveo the course of his lifetime and his business. his business, you can fail and with bankruptcy and that's what he's done. so make america great again, great again as compared to what? what. is what.

p he saying that we should go back to. >> host: let's take a look at an ad that he launched against hillary clinton on the issue of immigration. >> hillary clinton's america the syste'sak stays rigs against american. searing refugees flooding, illegal immigrants convicted of committing crimes get to stay collecting social security benefits comes giving the lie. our borders open it's more the same but worse donald trumps america's secureme terrorist and kept out. change that makes america safe again, donald, donald trump for president.si >> on donald trump and i approve this message what's your reaction to the n. >> he's not going to work in this campaign. what secretary clinton is supposed proposes comprehensive immigration before. you committed crime, those people have been deported.e but we are talking about is

making over 11 million people who have been law-abiding, taxes paying taxes, looking at a comprehensive way for individuals who can earn their citizenship and there will be a price to pay economically and standards that have to be lived up to keeping families togetherr so, i think you start to put fear into this election, fear is not going to win this election,: ideas willing clearly hillary clinton has the ideas, donald trump has not not. >> host: of next we have sadie on the independent line from apple valley, california.valley you're on. >> caller: good morning, how are you today?t: >> guest: very good. >> caller: people need to understand what donald trump is all about. t he has businesses that are overseas, his clothing line overseas, his daughter closely line overseas. the thing i haven't heard either

one talk about is that you cannot bring these jobs back. this is what i don't understand why people don't understand how are we going to make jobs back,k most of these manufacturing jobs are not coming back and we have to deal with that reality. butje but we need to make jobs with their infrastructure, those are the type of jobs we need here now, we have jobs in india, more companies have taken their service part of their company to india. the different indonesia, and we as a country have to be realistic about things. were in the global economy now. jobs are not coming back. we need to make jobs that are here. another comment and then i'll get off the line. it has been so many times when things are not going right for the white america, we always

blame each individual group. at first it was the irish than the chinese, then the blacks, not the mexicans. but now it was the blacks again but now it's the mexican. so we has people in the united states need to look at our trend and what were seen in how we say these things when our economy is not going back. >> host: okay let's talk with that. >> i agree that in a global economy and therefore there are different kinds of jobs that have to be created that we have to make sure we focus on them. i think you are exactly right and hillary clinton is right when she talks abouttation infrastructure and that creates jobs here in america. it's the same way when we wentil to the highway structure inn america, and building the train system. we need rails in the united states. that creates jobs and opportunity. it. it is important and that's why hillary clinton is saying on like trump that we are stronger together. as a nation when we bring

everybody together. black, white, hispanic, asian, were all working together, muslim, jew, christian, hindu. all religion, all ethnicities, were all working together that's what makes and that's why america is the greatest country it is. and we will continue to be the greatest country because we are stronger together. that is her message and that is what i think people will rally around them all she will be the 45th president of the united states. >> on our republican line from new york. >> caller: yes, that's fine thank you very much.mentio you mention obama's accomplishments, the biggest thing he did was build out general mortars but his other biggest was that he has almostd $20 trillion in debt. and i would like like to know how you propose we get out of that area

and secondly, you are supporting hillary clinton who he claimssh was it broke when she left office and now seven and a half years later she is worth over $100 million. i would like to know if you know where that money came from? >> i'll say this, first off, i don't know anybody, anybody, she's married to the former president of the united states and whether we like it or not when you look at former presidents of the united states whether it's george h bush, or they all make, they've had quite a bit of money before they came in but they also made quite a bit of money once they left. so there's nothing strange or different about that for the clintons than any other former president of the united states in that regard was the the first part of the question? >> host: i'm sorry haven't had coffee today. let me let me ask you about this.

we talked about the hillary clinton gap among black voters. a new new report from the cookrk report shows that president barack obama's success came largely from support a black voters who carried him in several key states to victory. in that hillary clinton is going to need that stay margarine that shows here and it shows how the black african-american voter turnout has increased through 2012 wears white turnout went down. she is going to need that turn out that the obama coalition so to speak. do you think they will get it. >> as she gets on this campaignp trail to poke focusing on the issues and asking her what she will do as president and not just talking about the name calling back and forth, then they will see clearly there is n plan and agenda that will benefit younger african-americans and

millennial's, that she understands what the issues and concerns are. she is 1% when you talk when he talked about criminal justice reform that has been focused on in the black caucus and others to make sure that we can put forth a strong criminal justice reform talking about building african-american middle class again investing inn our community. she has a plan to do that and a history to show where she wants to move to. and that's the kind of enthusiasm. i think the young millennial's will be listening very intently closely as we move forward and they will be looking at the words and the deeds of mr. trump and secretary clinton and that will drive the enthusiasm necessary that she will be elected the 45th president. i will add to that that if you look at the states that historically had always been republican. you know, georgia for example.

the reason my georgia is in places because of voter registration of african-americans is up in georgia and i can make that difference. north carolina, african-americans are going to be african-american voters are up in virginia. so if you look at some these key battleground states you'll see the enthusiasr of young folks, and millennial's are higher than the general population around the country because that is where the message is being shown right now. that is going to be significant as we move on november 8. >> cap next we have calling :bec come from california.if huron with congressman meeks. >> caller: hello, visiting my folks in pennsylvania, new holland. i'm around my relatives that i grew up with so many of them ar- so misinformed because theyormee listen to the right-wing conspiracy type theories.

they think he's responsible for murders and i just think we need to address instead of just focusing on donald and all the stuff that is obvious choice that don't seem to matter to his own constituents because theye are so dead set thinking about how, they blow these half truths into these monstrosities out of proportion. like hitler did with the big lie it's just you say some over and over again and i think we need to be in their own feeds and where they get the information and dispel it. hillary should have to do that all the time.progre but take the democratic party and progressives and republicans that are concerned about what would happen if trump unstable trump would get in there, won't happen to to this world. they need to really try to figure out how they can get in and dispel these concerns.they my relatives really have. they're mennonite, they're very good people.

they just can't -- they don't have the stuff.nning >> guest: i agree with you and that's why were here. he see members of congress and other people of goodwill running around the country over the next 60 days. fifty to 59 days. you see them praising vladimir putin insane that he is a stronger leader then president obama that's unheard of. when you see mr. trump and the generals, he knows more than the generals and the generals are weak in the united states. and it takes all of them to come together. we are indeed the greatest country this planet has ever seen. were. were great because we have overcome difficulty and we've had racial discrimination in women not having equal voices and equal protection. then we move forward and were t

still striving to be more perfect union. we are stronger will come together. that's what we need to do when we hear anybody try to depict especially strong on guy like bladder mere pollutant with the kgb, greater than our current president.es that's absurd. i think what we need it with hillary is doing she's talking about who she is, where she comes from and where she wants to take this country. that's a positive message we is need to hear and i think hillary is we going to debate season will be securing that from her more more. >> to think that race relations have deteriorated in this country since the time that the president has come to office?gra do you agree with that they've gotten better? particularly after the lack lives matter movement in the recent focus on race relations. >> guest: we talk about it more and i think that's a good thing.

previously i know what when i was in certain places it was taboo to talk about race. i think what's happening now is that we're talking about it more and that's how we really begin to take it to the next step. that's why think things will gep better. if you sweep it under the rug and never resolve the problem and people will think as i thought when he was elected that we lived in a post-racial america. america. but those individuals should know and i like that we don't, i never felt that we would be in a post-racial america racial america even with the electionwe were chik obama. so are we moving in the right direction? are we better than we were when i was a kid her her when my parents were children? absolutely.

do we have a lot of work to do, or some things they drift back to back to me after pushback? absolutely. but it's good when we can talk in dialogue and be upfront about it. i think the lack lives matter movement is a great movement. it's a movement movement. it's a movement that force that conversation. we need to have that conversation. >> host: earlier the black lives matter responded to a leaked memo from the d triple c staffers who nd f said and urgedd democrats not to offer a concrete policy and limits the number of activists they meet within some other things. in a statement black lives matter said we are disappointed that their placating response to our demand to value all black life. black communities deserve to be heard not handled. >> i thank about myself when i was growing up and i was in college i would have been part of the black lives matters. i think of what idea did in college and i think of how i handled it it now and how i move around.hat ther i think the memo was basically how to make sure that there is proper communication. so so if you have a smaller crowd you

have a better way of talking and exchanging ideas then if you had a huge crowd and you're just shouting at one another. for example i have decided on the general basis as opposed to having large town hall meetings, i found i found that we don't get as much done. s but what i have smaller meetings maybe you have more of those smaller meetings than we have a better dialogue, better question back and forth and i'm not misunderstood as much. i understand them better.meet and i think what that mama was suggesting to members is to have the smaller meetings that could be more beneficial than never and don't try to take them, they don't want you to take over the movement and tell them what to do. listen to them. that's what we sometimes do not do enough. is listen to folks. that's what they're saying. listen to other sign. >> up next we have roger coming in from alabama. >> caller: yes, it's glad to have you on here.

i'm 60 and i've listened to the democrats for all of these years. this is is the same story said four years ago. t sent same story for years that before that, before that, before that. but things haven't gotten worse and you can't say they haven't. everybody, look at where you're at now, the the unemployment everything in the same storyry you've heard. talking a what you're talking it chained it of my story so much. we talk about georgia and how it's changing. the illegal children are more in georgia schools now than the people who were born in the state. the latinos here have totally destroyed my profession which is construction. i'm i'm going out on social security like everybody else because hee complain about trump making his shirts in bangladesh but you make the rules, this is just the world i have to live in, that's world he has to live in.

he can't make shirts here because you have it set up and bangladesh. >> host: let's give him a chance to respond. >> guest: there are some people who can manufacture here. if you want to. he decided that he did not want to. n let me just say that in my lifetime, this country is better , it has become better for all of us. you look at and go around the world, it is still the greatest country on this planet. you look at our economy. it's still the strongest economy in the world. we have to continue to strive to be a more perfect union. more perfect union. but our diversity is what help make us this.cure we have to make sure that we do secure our borders, no one is saying that we should not do that. comprehensively we secure ouromn borders and come with an immigration plan that works forl all americans that makes us the

greatest country that this planet has ever seen. we'll continue to do that will be successful only if we do it together. if we divide ourselves up and that's where you see in other countries and other places, people divide themselves up by ethnicity, religion or some other reason that's what destroys them. we will not do that and the united states of america. >> host: next on the democratic line is patrick. you are on. >> caller: congress and makes needs to get a clue. that may be very clear. the first thing this president should have done as president of the united states is to implement their fairness doctrine in the media instead of which he became the most infamous collusion us with world bank operatives in the history of this country. there has never been a greater failure of a president in race relations in this country. look what has happened. he is a disaster as a president. i'm a i'm a democrat, i voted for this

president twice. you need to get a clue and understand, you need to actually provide on the position that this president is represented when it comes to anythinginfrasr positive in this country. he has allowed bankers to get away with the greatest destruction of economic economic infrastructuro in the history of this country. we are literally on the precipice of an economic implosion where sovereign debt of other nations where this president has participated in. >> host: okay let's respond. >> guest: this president inherited the worst economy from the great depression it was losing 850,000 jobs a month. an automobile industry that was about to go down the tubes. people were losing their homes left and right.gh the first bill he came and he passed the ledbetter law means that a woman has equal days pay for equal days work.

he made sure that over 20,000,000 americans that do not have healthcare insurance before that they had healthcare insurance. he saved the automobile industry which we have lost thousands more jobs. what he did, he went went back where we had enemies across the work he was in three wars and he made sure that star working together with our allies who were pulling away from us. so let let the facts be clear what this president has done. he has turned it around from thn greatest recession since the great depression and has made a tremendous difference and when historians look back that has to be given the credit to president obama. even though he had a hostile congress who tried to block him at every stop of of the way.re he could get more jobs if he passed the transportation infrastructure bill. >> host: sowed joe calling in from michigan.si >> caller: so little bit

sidetracked, you can bet that things are just not better.in r in race spectacle into an and trump, i think we have to ask ourselves whose the builder, who is built anything? killer clinton is good at one thing, she's good at collectingn money. distributing it if you want to see her if you have enough money you can see her. but at the end of the day we need someone his going to build something. buildings get built, you want people building or you want people just reproduce, let's let's gather up everybody else's money, stress not right. >> host: okay let's get a response. >> guest: yes who has donalde trump do anything for except for him and his family. so much so that even at the republican convention the only people who could really get to vouch forr him was his family. that's all he has ever taken care of. he's never never cared about the general population. what donald trump has to i think

a bad business where he made bed decisions he has filed several bankruptcies to try to bail himself out of the bad decisions and to protect who? only donald trump. so i go by what people have done.e hillary clinton her whole life has been trying to lift and help somebody and been involved in government. i know sometimes that gives youh track record that one wants to criticize. but when i look at from the time she left college and law school and the first lady, the first state of arkansas, then the united states of america, then a senator, then a senator, who i worked with very closely from new york. secretary of state, all of it has been trying to help make this country the best country it it is. her contribution to our country is far superior to the contribution of donald trump who is only cared about himself and

one even shows tax return. when you see his tax return you will see that he cares nothing about a charity or anything else. only donald trump. >> host: sarah's coming calling in from new york on our independent line. >> caller: thank you to c-span. sir, i seem to remember a bill that was passed bipartisan in the senate about immigration and it was never brought up in the house. i called the republican leaders in the senate and asked his people why and they said that they disagreed with the bill in certain parts and i said, why didn't you just send it back to see if they could change it.

>> guest: i couldn't agree with you more. that was a bill where we had a gang of eight on the senate side in a bipartisan manner to deal with comprehensive immigration reform. it is a bill that i probably would have boarded for had we had a vote of the floor of the house. unfortunately it would've taken place on the house side. we can even vote on bills. healh we left and that was one of the issues were dealing with now. we would like to vote. i think it's a national crisis now on zika. you can get a boat on zika. a clean plane vote on the national security, health issue, health concern of zika we, health concern of zika we connected a vote on. we can't do to vote on no-fly, nobody in reference to guns. we just want to vote on it and let people vote yes or no. that's what happens right now on the house floor.would hope t i don't think the american people want that. it's clearly the senate can do certain things in a bipartisan manner. i would hope that we get to the

point that the house would at least put their bills on the floor and let us have a vote up or down so the american people know where we stand. >> host: congressman gregory meeks from new york, democrat, thank you for joining us. >> washington journal, live everyday with news with news and policy issues that impact too. coming up on saturday morning, washington examiner commentary writer, ash -- and billy carpenter associate editor will join us to talk about the latest 2016 development. then anthony cordesman from the center for strategic and international study will talk about the united states recent $1.3 billion payment to iran to settle an unresolved arms deal after the initial payout during the discussion. >> next, house oversight