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policy areas would your government like to pursue with washington and also what would you like to see washington do to facilitate a closer relationship between our two governments? >> first of all back in february many things have happened. president obama came to argentina in what we considered was a very successful visit and a very successful encounter between the two leaders. ..
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but some things have come they are looking for opportunities to see that the decisions taken by the administration reflect for example on the credit rating which is something very important. it is not something that suddenly they have been there administration but we believe the decision may be in the financial institution that you have the responsibility. of course were looking for in a more cooperation with the private sector and again the administration is important. but we are working more specifically in certain areas.
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were incorporating the second objective which i described. it is strong, it's a strong cooperation between the security institutions, we found that our security system was quite dismantled so we are seeking support on the building come on equipment, so we are working on things in that regard and were also working very closely and coordinating with peacekeeping, private change in things that are of importance to us but also to the us. we also have have a few things where we may not agree as anyone else but we can all live with that. >> we are glad you are in the position you are. the major to our members and remind you that this is on the record, ask you to stand, give your name and your affiliation and make your comment or question relatively short so that your colleagues can also participate.
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>> yes, at the far table. >> thank you. i would like to know how argentina sees the role of the us? especially with all these democratic challenge in the region, especially minnesota? iq. >> well first of all, we value the role. we feel is an institution it is one of the oldest institutions in the world. it has some incredible established institutions within and the human rights aspects of it are significant. we believe that the human rights council on all the elements of it are very important, because
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we really value it. somebody asked us when we're just coming into the administration, there was this discussion about. [inaudible] we felt the institutions are different and have different purposes and both of those should be retained. so we are very engaged. we think that it's an opportunity for the continent to come together. although it is true within the continent we have a lot of relations. but the more to work together and try to find, good. so we are infested. >> at the front table. [inaudible]
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>> i will get it right eventually. >> informally with the department of state. i understand that argentina is a candidate for membership in the oecd. could you tell us where that stands? >> well, we have region to oecd indicating are interest in as a member. but we also said in our letter that we are interested as long as they are interested as a member. and this is now being picky. there is a reason for these and the discussions whether the expansion should continue or maybe the number of members is enough. and being part of oecd has, and many added values. i always like to say the
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complying with many of the things they establish puts us in a straitjacket that is helpful for the future. so because of a long-term -- it is also true that it is a very heavy investment. so we we are ready to go for as long as we have partners willing to come along with us. we are trying to get to investigate work most a the leaders of the oecd say that we are ready to tackle and now we'll see what the other side is ready. but we feel that it is worth making that investment. with one caveat. we also we also need to be very careful that politically the speed of implementation is something that one needs to be very mindful of. there's so many things on our
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plate that we need to stagger what is it that we do and how fast we do it. this is something we have also shared with members of oecd. >> another question. >> thank you, it is very interesting to listen to your presentation about the objective and priorities of the government and the broad agenda that is associated with it. my question really is, anything within that agenda that offers some idea about the restructuring of the argentina's economy which is pretty much a rat natural resource base into a modern economy that is competitive, and this context, context, do you have a model in mind that you want to emulate, is that the new region like countries like brazil versus chile, or looking farther to
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countries like korea and vietnam? >> first of all, it is true that our country is strong, but it's also true that are country is one of the weakest countries in the world. i learned a long time ago that one needs to understand and then move from there because once you try to deal and weaknesses the work that you want to get is much more challenging. so what is it that we feel we must do? i said it in my introduction, we believe that we have to deal on our advantages. and move up in the value change if we do that. so clearly agribusiness is hard. the fact that the administration
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eliminated all of the different hurdles that the agricultural sector had is now yielding at least this year 20% more of output in soybean, and et cetera. so the speed in which that sector reacts to the right incentives is critical to us. we have now to make sure as they said that we move from be in the supermarket so that is an area of opportunity. there is another area of opportunity that we have really throughout our history and that is in earls. when you look at what we know with the gdp of chilean you look at what is our gdp it is almost
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nella in our gdp. and for some reason god put all of the minerals to the west, not to the east. that's the only way to say. so that my name is another area where we can do a lot. but here again, not only the expectation and building up in the value chain. we have the largest resource in argentina. we have it set up so some of the minerals that are more critical in the advanced technology until we not only to exploit the minerals but -- so that's another area where we are very much in the position of the outside being relatively simple and it is part of what we're trying to do.
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it is clear that argentina has an opportunity in the sector side of business because there is first a well-educated population, specifically a young population, a population that is very creative as they said earlier, when you look at a startup in latin america, four of the five largest of latin america come from argentina, talking about the technology sector. even though there were no new sentence in argentina to help there is another area and is provided to the world in certain areas it is also important. so so do we have a single country that will be our mirror? we don't. we are trying to look at
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best practices by sector. we are constructing role plan for our action and productivity to increase and we are trying to compare sector by sector and learn from the best ones. so it could be in our government and indication that it had, it is clearly the case of chilean minerals, but but i think we have many things to learn. >> on the back table, the gentleman sitting with the computer. >> thank you very much. i'm with ap. i would like to try to topics. if you could please give us an update on the plan for argentina to receive 3000 syrian refugees that we have not heard only recently, and i would like to also follow up of venezuela.
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is argentina ready to say that the mediation done by the three former presidents have been achieve a significant outcome and there is a need to try a different strategy? and also. >> that's too. >> yes but secretary-general involved a charter in may when he called a special meeting, so then my question is why should be the next step in this assessment of venezuela? what should be the next step of the nation there. so anything you could share i appreciate. >> if i ask you can you remind me of the first one? >> the refugees. they're going to to be making more specific announcements next week in the high level in new york but what i can say to you
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is that we have put together a plan to expand what argentina has been doing in the past because one needs to say it is not new that argentina is receiving refugees, but what we want to do is to it at a different pace and with a different force. so we are spending with how to receive refugees in a manner that allows them to have the coverage when they arrived on their own. this is based on two principles. the first principle is that argentina is a country of migrants and refugees. many of us have parents or great-grandparents who came to argentina either be a migrants or economic get a refugees or were refugees. so what feel is the question of syria it requires shouldering by
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everybody by the world and it's a drop in the ocean but we are trying to do it and do it in a responsible manner, meaning we are trying to have the first and have it covered by the fact that there are two very large populations in argentina of syrian and lebanese origin that can help to integrate these people. that we have five or six provinces where the government, they are totally ready to work on refugees and trying to put together all of these in a manner that is well sustained and allows us to feel that people can be productive as soon as they arrive. you know, having a level of 30% of poverty level of 30% makes us very responsible of what we do when we open ourselves. because we do not have the
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possibility of affording us a government to bring his proper anything because we cannot do that with our own people. we are trying to work with the private sector and with some of these to make sure that we get that next that allows them -- so details will be announced by the president next week so if you allow me to leave there. regarding venezuela, first of all we believe that dialogue and i said in a different context a few minutes ago is the way to sort out issues. it is clear that the venezuelans have voted twice in a very different way sending very different messages. the executive is there in the democratic process through the source of elections and when
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given the powers by the people is also clear that last december they decided to give a majority to the opposition. so what our really is is the venezuelans have told the leadership, come together and sort this out. and in that regard we are looking at the need for dialogue is there, when you said that nothing has happened with the dialogue of the three presidents, i would not dare say be so absolute, probably i could say that we have the most is when would like, in our view some are very important, you may have seen they have sent a
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letter offering the offices of the vatican to intervene. we have a push for that for a long time. and we believe that if the vatican draws forces here with the moral authority a pope francis, in the world and particularly in this region there is an opportunity to sort things out into how the parties find a solution in a way forward. so we feel better with that and were trying to do our very best in hoping that is the way to go. particularly because other options in our view are really not good options. then it's true though there able to present his view on the democratic in the case of oes.
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and this was under the presidency of the council, you may recall that and now it is being discussed among member states. what they said in interviews is an analysis of all options of things that can be done and because here and there the democratic umbrella. that is being discussed. in fact the would be conversations in the next weeks among the states. but all of these is not something that happens overnight when you have an engagement it takes time. so i think that despite this is being under consideration it's very important because of part of the role of oes. >> thank you. i'm kelly. i thought it was very interesting that early in the
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ten year president mockery went to chile for the pacific alliant summit. i saw in a few it, and on the relationship. thank you. >> well they did a few things that were interesting to our region. before the president he was still president-elect we flew to two different places on the same day. this had a lot for us because it is clear that rozelle is our largest partner, it is clear that we cannot think about ourselves without thinking about brazil. but it's also clear that we believe, deeply believe in a perspective of our self and of the region. this notion of having a view of
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atlantic versus specific is just plain wrong. if are not here and not tape i would say plain stupid but i cannot say that. so it's just wrong. so our view is, and this is discussed between presidents at the time, it it is not something you people can say now well you are starting something, no, this is discussed then and we agree that there is a combination of a lion specific that can commit to circle. after that we were invited to become observers and we decided to accept that privilege. so we so we are now observers of the pacific alliance. we think that in the end south america, latin america has to really strengthen its
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integration. i'd like to say that we measured through results, and when when you look for example the level of integration within the past ten years and the investment within the region or trade within the region you have to deal with a lot so we need to talk business and get serious about integration and put that in terms that go beyond labels. really get to the heart of it. >> thank you carla. michael michael shifter of the inter-american dialogue, thank you. you mentioned your opening remarks that the argentina is reorienting its relationship with china. in light of the current priorities.
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can you describe for a bit what that means, reorienting in what way? >> it clearly in the prior administration signed an agreement with china, and we have decided that that is something that we want to maintain. but we want to maintain in terms that are aligned with what the government feels are the priorities. so we have had a very fruitful conversation, series of conversations. in fact the president already met twice and we have somehow there was an agreement around a contract more than an agreement signed around the power plant in the south and we look into it ends we are signing that and our chinese counterpart has agreed to that. the chinese have proposed a
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couple of options on power plants, nuclear power plants which are now considering in light of our overall plan on energy. and we are discussing with them. there were discussions around a plan base, not a plant that was approved and both developed in getting the south regarding satellite monitoring which had all kinds of questions regarding the use of application of the base. we start with our chinese partners and said we understand that these have always, they have civilian checked it. but we would like to make an we have now assigned, an agreement an addendum to make it clear and specific. so what we have done
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is set with the chinese who are serious players in the region. our series players in the world and have decided to make sure that our relationship is based on mutual trust and also mutual interest. >> yes, the back table. >> thank you. i'm tresa from carter for capital. it is such a pleasure to have you. i would would have to tell you that every single person i know wishes the best of success to that administration. on another topic, if we are so lucky and you're so lucky to be the secretary general of the un, what would be your top three, or five or five priorities for the united nation? >> well first of all this is in the hands of people who decide based on a greater scheme.
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so that's in their hands. you know, my view on the united nations is that probably it has been over review, over transform, over a change in layers. so you have an organization that is often very functional because different people have taken partial looks on what should be done and in the end the cost of coordination to get things done is such that it's impossible to be effective and efficient. i haven't viewed that the un should be what i call issue centric. and we need an inspirational leader that values the troops
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internal but also rallies member states. and discusses issues and around issues you sort out how to build a solution. and so you can be organizational centric in which each part of the organization puts a stake in the solution because that is a way to survive. you start to reverse and you think about what is it that the people you are there to serve require and you reverse to that. so my sense is that the un has more than reform which many people talk about, is to get practical and define itself in space. in doing so you then start to understand how is it that things should be done and eventually you get to the reform aspects of what is it that should be
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changed and why should we change. i say this is a first priority because normally people will ask you how will you reform and you get into the discussion of adding a layer and adding a certain level, i will go into going into getting things done and i think i have one -- to understand what is needed and enough of an outsider to understand how it should be done. so that is how i see my priorities. with this organization. so on the big problems of the world i believe that there is a strong need to have the secretary general playing a very big role of bridgebuilder, facilitator, and this is a
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moment where things get stuck very often so having the notion of the secretary general who can reach out and go quietly to parties and propose options and alternatives is very important. at the same time be ready should that be necessary to stick an accountant say i'm going to use article 99 for the ones who don't know is the article that brings issues to the security council. one needs to be very careful with that but needs to be ready in the search to use it should there be any. on the other thing is that one also has to balance a lot and invest a lot on prevention. again, with office of the secretary general not only with security but also on climate change and on action.
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on the main issues that the world is facing today and coming from the oceans meeting when you look at that we do not do prevention and action soon we are going to travel. so that is something the un needs to move to. a cma good friends is being a champion of these and he's been frustrated by the fact that we have not gotten far enough because clearly member states are ready when a disaster occurs but are not ahead ready ahead of time. in my sense is the agenda the climate change agreement and all the things that have come to fruition we will allow the next general to do it. >> will that was a wonderful response to a very difficult question in many respects and right within our time.
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the administer has to return to argentina. i think you all agree with me, argentina is extraordinarily fortunate to have someone with her background, know-how, and, brainpower and we as a friend of argentina will enjoy working with you in the months and years ahead. so thank you so much for being with us. congratulations for all you are doing in your great thoughts. thank you. >> thank you. [applause]. know no. [inaudible] [inaudible]
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>> president obama delivers his seventh and final keynote address at the inner wall black caucus foundation dinner tomorrow night. hillary clinton will be there and received the trailblazer award in recognition of being the first women presidential nominee of a major party in the us. i've. i've coverage on c-span at 7:30 p.m. eastern. >> at today's pentagon ceremony for prisoners of war and those missing in action, retired captain jerry coffey who is held for seven years in vietnam at the infamous hanoi hilton talks out on the podium that he and other po dale pows use to communicate. every night they tapped out good night and god bless america from their cells to each other.
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>> when you knew the man in the cell was next to you and down and hurt he, his feet locked at the ankles, the cuffs at the foot of the con create slabs in his hands tightly behind him and he had been like that for a week or month, you get appear wall frequently and you tap to him. [inaudible] gb, he knew that meant god bless. he also knew it meant be tough, hang in there, i am praying for you and you bet you were. and then in the future of a week, month, or whatever he would be up on his walls to encourage you the same way. for example, on the pow flag, i will never forget and, e, the,
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are. [inaudible] forget. never forget. we all came out of that prison experience a stronger men. in some ways it was like cramming a doctor's degree into those years in prison. i like to leave you this morning with the pow message. at the end of every day we would sign off and say good night. g -- for good night, and and gba for god bless america. every single night. >> on newsmakers this evening
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adam schiff, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee discusses reported russian hacking, the approach the approach to counterterrorism and north korean nuclear test. newsmakers, sunday at 10:00 a.m. and six eastern on c-span. >> the united kingdom's independence party elected diane james has its first female leader. this, the guardian writes as the party faces a struggle for relevance after that brexit vote to leave the european union and the departure of outgoing leader, and nigel. coming up on c-span2 we will hear from nigel in his final address at the annual conference. later, the parties new leader, diane james. >> [applause].
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[inaudible] >> thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for that fantastic welcome. [applause]. we get did it. we got our country back. and we would not have done it without you. the people and i am very, very proud of every single one of you. thank you. [applause]. the events of the 23rd at three at 330 in the morning we realize we're going to win felt to me like a fairy tale that had come true. because this has been a very long journey indeed. twenty-five years ago i joined
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the anti- federalist league, not many people can say that. because there weren't many of us. in 1993 it became -- and i said to myself, it doesn't matter that all of my friends and family and business colleagues think i have gone mad. it doesn't matter to me the history said it was impossible to get a new political party off the ground in this country. to me me is very simple. all of those years ago it was a matter of principle. i believe we we should govern our own country. [applause]. six weeks after the party had been formed the conservative member of the party died overnight in there is an election and i thought one for a
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penny one for a pound a night volunteer. i was the first ever adopt a candidate of that u.k. independent party. [applause]. i went out there and i campaigned and i did my best and i can tell you the night of the results saw a crushing clear margin of 164 votes i beat the late great -- [applause]. it was difficult to get more than 1% in the election in those days. but things change in 1999 with the advent of proportional representation of the european election. no one thought that we had a chance. i always did and i will never forget that night when three of us were elected and it was just beginning to get on in real terms, i'll never forget that feeling. it was amazing and i was interviewed, my first ever
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live interview was from meridian. i think he's here today. it was a live interview, one of the morning and they say congratulations nigel, you said you're going to do it, you, you have. but next week you said you will be off on your staff to the european parliament and you'll find a never ending round of invitations for lunches, dinners, champagne receptions, do you think you will become corrupted by the lifestyle? and i replied live on their, no, i have always lived like that. [laughter] [applause]. >> well at least it was true. we went year after year p.m. part of it and be in on the big
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ride, successes, dramatic failures, warfare, all the the things that happened within any political party. but we first really got on the political big-time early in 2013. early in 2013 was suddenly the british parliament realized that what we had to say about the subject, the subject that you are not supposed to discuss company. the subject that you labor made even raising it as if somehow you are committing a criminal offense. yes, we weren't frightened to talk honestly and openly about the need for sensible immigration into this country. and we talked about it. [applause]. we talked about it and it was rapidly becoming the number one issue in british politics and nobody else would touch the subject. they couldn't couldn't touch the subject because there all part of the membership of
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your peeing movement which was up to 500,000,000 people. million people. so by these election suddenly we got a big score. we then went into the county elections of that year and i remember i was doing number four milbank i was due there about 9:00 p.m. to do interviews about overnight getting 23% of the national vote. and about 100 yards yards away from the entrance i saw a big throne of cameramen and photographers and i thought something really big must've happened. and i was quite oblivious to just what we had done. we have gone on from there, we won won the european elections in 2014 [applause]. the first was not label to win a
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national election since 19 oh six. -- 1906. without us there would have been no referendum. [applause]. without you, without you in the people's army there would have been no ground campaign. and together we have changed the course of british history. [applause]. and we have brought down a prime minister. [applause]. and we have got rid of the chancellor [applause]. i forget what i called him now. and we got rid of a european commissioner. [applause]. i said four years ago that i
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predicted that it would cause an earthquake in british politics, well, we have. we have. [applause]. so the question is what now? we have a new prime minister who has said that brexit's brexit. a new prime minister that who when she started look to be very surefooted on this issue. but i have a feeling that things are beginning to change. when i saw her at the g20 making her speech after she said the british people voted in the referendum for some control of immigration from the european union. no prime minister, we voted to take back control of our borders. simple.
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[applause]. and we have. and we have cabinet ministers like the home secretary still fighting referendum. suggesting last weekend that it might cost us 50 -- to get it reason going to booze cruise. half the cabinet did not only fail to support the winning side of the referendum but it seems to me they want to do the utmost to be a part of the single market. there is going to be a great political battle ahead. my concern would be this, with labor in the mess that it is in and boy it is in a mess, is in its. the leadership election going on and yet there's no conversation with the half of labor voters are more that voted for brexit. but with labor in trouble and
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with conservatives perhaps heading toward 2020 and a comfortable and easy position, the temptation on the prime minister will be to go for a soft brexit as opposed to a hard brexit. we can be very proud of the fact that we won the war but we now must win the peace in the only mechanism to put pressure on the government, to keep the debate live and make sure that those 17.4 million people get what they voted for is for to be healthy and strong. [applause]. we will find out at half past one who are new leaders. i wish them i'm guessing it is going to be her, but we'll we'll see. i wish them the very best of
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luck. and my job is not to metal, my job is not to try to influence but my job will be if that leader wants to have any help and advice that make no mistake about it, i am still foursquare. i'm behind the party [applause]. stood beside me for six years as chairman of the party and if you think being the leader of it is difficult you should try being chairman. i have to say that if at some point in time it does get recognized for its contribution to british political life and buried in my that democrats have over 100 light years in the house of law, if anything like that was to come our way then i
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think steve you ought to be top of our list for everything you have done for this party. [applause]. he talked about reform, he talked about change. remember this, you cap any well-known it didn't even happen until 99 any elected representative. it was a grassroots party we chose to manage herself through a national executive committee of willing volunteers. that was fine then. but we have moved on have it we. we are now the third-biggest particle party in this country. we have we have to change our management structures. we have to guard, because one of the problems of success is that it brings people into who perhaps don't do it for the
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gains the country of the people but perhaps a more motivated by their own professional careers in politics. [applause].
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>> whether it's the schools are forename the fact that others are talking about it doesn't mean they're going to deliver it. and it asks they have to keep pushing all of those agendas. not only other millions of people out there who feel loyal to us but i don't think the harvester votes that we could potentially get for the labour party is really even started yet. [applause]. in many ways corbin is a very decent and principled man. but he doesn't believe in britain. he doesn't he doesn't even want to sing the national anthem. he flunked it, didn't he when it came to the referendum. i think we have fantastic potential in wales and the midlands of the north and elsewhere in picking up labor votes. believe me, if brexit doesn't mean brexit, then i think
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there'll be a very large number who say there's only one party that we can support. and i think it will judge whether brexit means brexit. for be three personable measures. for the time the next general election comes along will we have back our territorial fishing waters around the coast of the united kingdom? [applause]. will we be outside the single market so that 90% of our businesses that don't agree with europe to not get regulated by europe. and above all, doesn't pass for brexit. the only time will really know, you, you may have seen this before actually, the only time we will know that
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brexit means brexit is when that has been put in the bid and we get back a british -- [applause]. a british passport [applause]. i have a feeling they're not going to deliver all of that. i am certain they will not deliver it unless it is strong and fighting hard at every single constituency in this country. as i say, we have won the war, we war, we must now with the piece. for my part today is a chapter on what it's been a pretty extraordinary few years. i honestly looking back it could never really have dreamt that we would have achieved what we have. i have put absolutely all of me
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into this. [applause]. i literally could not have worked any harder and could not have been more determined. in a sense i guess it has been my life's work at a time to help get this party to this point. i frankly don't think i could do anymore. i think it and hope i have done my best. [applause]. but i'm not giving up on politics completely. as as i say, i will support the new leader. i'm going to continue to lead a group in the european parliament. [applause].
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and making my constructive contributions [applause]. i intend this autumn to travel around to other european capitals to try and help independence and democracy movements in those countries too. [applause]. who knows, i may even go back to the united states of america at some point between now. so i'm going to be engaged in political life without leaving a political party and it is going to leave me freer. it's good it's good to leave me less constrained. [laughter] from now on, i am really going
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to speak my mind. [applause]. i said as i toured the country on that wonderful -- and met thousands of you out there, i said that i want want my country back and now folks, i want my life back. i have to think everybody. the massive contributions that so many thousands of you have made to helping me do this job. to helping helping us change the course of british history. thank you. [applause].
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[inaudible] non- [inaudible] non- [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] >> new incoming u.k. independence leader, diane james addresses the parties annual conference for the first time in england. she won the won the election with nearly 8500 votes. she is the first female leader to run the party. this is half an hour.
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>> ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. ladies and gentlemen, what a morning we have had. i asked everybody to provide is sendoff for nigel fitting the man who had change the course of british history and a conference you did just that. just to be sure that he got the message, let's have one final cheer for nigel. [applause]. [applause].
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in just a few minutes a we will know who has been elected to take our party to the future. at first, let us spend a few final moments to reflect on what has passed. now, i will remember what things were like a year ago. we had 4,000,000 votes but only one and pp. the election the election had pushed us up to the verge of financial ruin and nigel had just resigned. at times over the last few months they seemed like the good old days. that said, it did not look good at the time but through the tenacity, dedication and passion of u.k. members we put our best foot forward. we picked ourselves up, dusted ourselves off, and set to what
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u.k. members to best, we campaigned. we engaged with voters, knocked on doors and deliver the arguments the country needed to hear. one of the things that frustrated me most over the last few months is then listening to one media outlet after another tell us that it was responsible for winning brexit. tuesday here believe that? who in here believes it is u.k. #i am pleased and proud that we worked with all four and came together at the right time. be under no illusion that is much as the establishment may deny it, not only would there have been a referendum without nigel and without u.k. but without our party it would not have been one. [applause].
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and ladies and gentlemen, that that is exactly what we did. we won. we connected with 1,700,000,000 spirits and they are just waiting to see what more we can offer. you cap is more important now then ever and don't let anybody tell you otherwise. we're still here and still relevant. we've seen a glaring example of that this last week with the announcement of tresa made that she is now in favor of grammar schools. and it interesting policy that we could not have written better ourselves. in fact, i think we did. no tax on the minimum wage, a referendum on the e.u. and now grammar schools. i cannot wait to see what policy ideas they will claim to come up with next. it just goes to show that it's far more's then a pressure group
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and it demonstrates how we drive the agenda this day. in the near future they will appoint their own chairman and i will go back to being happy. but it really has been one of my greatest honors to use serve as nigel's last chairman. when i will hand the roll over to someone else at the end of the month. i will do do everything i can to help whoever picks up the baton. it really is a time for a a party to unite, to come together, and to support our new leader. when we work together, we have proven that we have the ability to move mountains and now under our new leader we have to look at wish mountain we're going to move next. so i am incredibly proud now to announce the results of our leadership contest. this contest has been overseen
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by the electoral reform services who received 17917 votes. in fifth place, with 1203 votes is elizabeth jones. [applause]. in fourth place with 1545 votes is -- broughton. [applause]. in third place with 2052 votes is bill etheridge. [applause]. in second place with 4591 votes
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is lisa duffy. [applause]. and so, ladies and gentlemen it is an absolute pleasure to announce that with 8451 votes, the leader of the u.k. independent party, diane james. [applause]. [applause]. [applause]. [applause].
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[applause]. [applause]. [applause]. [applause]. we did it ladies and gentlemen. you did it, ladies and townsmen
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and i have just done it. and i'm so pleased [applause]. chairman, nigel and conference, i want to thank you for that. it is going to take me a little while to come back down to earth, i can assure you. thank you for your good wishes for such a wonderful reception. thank you to everybody who voted who took part in the contest. my goodness, you handed over a mantel. so there so there we go, it is one that i am deeply honored and i do mean deeply honored to take on from nigel. i haven't quite to grips with it, i'm still still pinching myself. i'm just immensely grateful for what you have done and what you have the stone on me.
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just remember though where we are and what you have asked me to take on. i was part of that european elections winning team. i've been one of your mvps in brussels for two years. i may not have contested the general election seats but i supported a number of our candidates. and just remember we were the third political force in that general election. we really did move mountains and that political landscape. we might well have been handicapped by a flawed and quite frankly morally bankrupt -- system [applause]. but absolutely nobody can take away from tran6, united united kingdom independence party, the disruption we have cause.
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and can i just mark one particular word shall we say or one particular sentence. that is the days of the tactics, they had their day. they have had their day everyone. and we proved why they have had their day. we are going to ensure they never, ever, ever rise from the political ashes ever again. >> ladies and gentlemen, let's also also think the media for being here. [applause]. why are they here? we are the political change movements of the united kingdom. there is more interesting you in
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this party then i'm sure others would dream of. so thank you media, thank you very much indeed. we welcome you to come join us. let me go back to people like you out there in the audience, it may be also u.k. members following what is going on in terms of the parliament challenge. even picking up things on their mobile phones. for me and individuals i've met and events across the country, a huge thank you. but. but also a huge appreciation for introducing yourself and for making me aware of the talent we have now out there. for the enthusiasm we now have out there and for those that really do want to see ukip deliver further change in this country. you are the grassroots. you are the absolute pivotal base of this party.
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on behalf of everyone who so far has spoken today, may all also echo my thanks to you for everything you do. now there are chancellors out there, and for them, they face a huge challenge and 2017. and i can give you this commitment, i will be behind you, i will make sure that you get the support you need, and you, wherever you are in this country in the united kingdom, you will have the battle of the united kingdom independent party winning machine. [applause]. but we cannot take our eye off that important essence in the
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room. we have won a heat, i'm not i'm not even get to talk about battles and wars, i'm going to talk about heats and races and getting over the winning line. we have only just won a heat. a heat in the 28 member state, olympic competition to leave the european union. and i'm very grateful and i would appreciate all of the other countries that are now looking to britain and helping to emulate what we have done here in their own country. but, and here's the but, the u.k. signature ink is not yet dry on that document. until it is dry on that document , to every single interviewing who talks to you, every single person who talks to -- [applause].
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just remind them that until we get a signature, until that ink is dry, we are still in. they still tell us what to do. they still boss us about. we have have to obey everything that goes through the european union, various levels of what they purport as it democrat and the process. so bear that in mind if you wouldn't mind on my behalf. during my national series of events i outline my 100 days priority. and not in the least is the absolute focus on this party's policies and making sure we are battle ready, race ready, for the next general election whenever that might come. we will were applauded by our
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manifesto in 2015. it was stood up from the scrutiny of our political opponents. and it was the best one on the street and we voiced all over the country. we have have got to do that again everyone. i'm going to asking all of you to make a contribution to that. make sure that your views are captured, counted, and more possible included in the policies that we will take and put to the united kingdom population to make them aware that we truly are a political force. that will act on their behalf and we will deliver on their behalf what is necessary for this country. [applause].
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[inaudible] you've tried to steal her grammar schools but i think you have difficulty getting that through. just just remember when you try to bury ukip when you throw everything at us and tried to undermine this, to modus, just remember remember that we are the best ideas that you feel where they came from and where they will come from again in the future. [applause]. so now i will pay my next tribute and it is an important one. it it is to my fellow nep colleagues. the contribution to the
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successful general election manifesto in 2015 goes unremarked. i worked with them on a weekly basis. the caliber of those individuals, the work ethic that they have in the commitment to our corset in europe i think sometimes is undermined and is ignored. . .
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the one that some of the other order to stations have tried to steal, the one that you must constantly remind people in that message, take back control. take back control. [applause] now of course the academics out there say they are working hand in glove with their organization. they want to ignore the reform that people voted for what 17 .4 million people voted for you. they voted to reach out to the world and attach the commonwealth to the rest of the world through bilateral trade deals. they voted for globally successful enterprise building
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that can thrive and survive and really build on the strength of this country. they voted to return control to westchester and the voted to control our borders. if any of that is going to be signed away brexit associated brexit membership or any other concoction the county would like to report a mayor to report and may remind you again this is what the people's army exists exists for that is what we are going to fight for and that's what we are going to continue to fight for. my third in major is to an individual who spoke just before lunch, somebody who has given up decades and sacrificed huge amount who handed the mantle to me, who still wants to be beside
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me as your the next leader who will be extolled proponents of supportive wrecks it. ladies and gentlemen i'm going to ask you with me to thank nigel farage once more. [applause] [applause] [applause]
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>> conference, the european union referendum in the outcome britain or the united kingdom however you want to start it is embarking on a new era. it's the same for our party to united kingdom independence party. i am not nigel like. [laughter] i am not even nigel liked. i will never ever pretend to be so. what i will be doing is stepping into his leadership shoes but i will be doing everything to achieve the political success that he's handing over to me. now i recognize politics is a different scenario than what i've been used to in terms of leading companies, both private and public sector. but what i do appreciate is i can be leader but if i am not
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leader with you people behind me that title is meaningless. i can give you this though everyone, and absolute reassurance that i believe in ukip's noise of liberty, common sense, democracy and pragmatic approaches to the challenges this country faces. my language might be a little different. i'm not going to be retiring so unlike nigel i may not be able to sanctify my want to be but i tell you one thing you will always get all misty for me and any question is posed to me will be answered as best as i can and i will uphold all of the police and values that this party stands for and what nobody suggest otherwise. [applause]
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professionally -- professionalism will top my agenda. if we are going to reach and achieve the goals of his party is still capable of achieving thin changes going to have to happen. it's not going to be change that changes state. it's not going to be change because i think that to change it and i can't justify it. it's going to be because change is necessary and justified. and the caveat behind that will be to provide and make sure we have the winning political machine under my leadership and something coming to you which you know delivers all of your key objectives and make sure you are part of the winning machine. [applause]
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so let me answer some of the questions that i've had. some of the huge detractors that would already like to undermine and bury ukip with his conference. the threats to the referendum and -- outcome are increasing by the day but i can tell you this. note to european associate membership, no to brexit, know to single market controls and no to unrestricted or uncontrolled freedom of movement into this country so 450 or 500 million whatever the european looks like which i believe we will lead come, they come and they comment on a clear basis. but, here are the guesses. this is what i want you to
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believe in and work on. yes we are true 100% european and union exit. can i be any more clear? [applause] yes to a sovereign independent united kingdom. [applause] yes to a united kingdom free to make trade deals with whoever and whenever we want. [applause] and yes to an immigration policy that allows entry regardless of origin to those with the skills and the expertise and the social
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values that this country wants. [applause] and may i say 17.4 million people signed up for that so if you choose that declaration, 17.4 million people voted to leave the european union. that's what independence means and that's what independence and the united kingdom independence means. [applause] so mrs. may, you are now looking and if you are watching tv this afternoon, you will be watching your party in waiting.
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[applause] [applause] >> and mrs. may, from one grammar school girl to another. [applause] get on with it.
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[applause] and give uk the best christmas present is ever had the 25th of december. 2016. [applause] ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much indeed. thank you from the bottom of my heart. under my leadership we are going to outfit our opponent, we are going to build on our electoral success and do more. as i said we are the opposition party in waiting so watch out. all of you wherever you are in the united kingdom at the moment, i ask you support me, work with me, when with me, make
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ukip the winning machine it will become. thank you everyone. [applause] [applause] [applause] [applause]
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>> ladies and gentlemen the new premier -- the new leader of ukip diane james. [applause] president obama delivers his seventh and final address at the annual black caucus foundation dinner tomorrow night. hillary clinton will also be there and receive the trailblazer award in recognition of being the first one presidential nominee of the major party in the u.s.. live coverage on c-span at 7:30 p.m. eastern.
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>> politics have changed and very substantial ways and a kind of natural shape of politics based on class and clear ideology has become more disruptive and all over the western world he can feel the traditional political party the mainstream party under pressure.
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next an analysis a rush under president vladimir putin including the consequences of the antiterrorism measures known as the yarovaya law on civil and religious liberties. from the atlanta counsel, this is about 90 minutes. [inaudible conversations]
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spinet good morning. we are going to go ahead and get started. thank you for joining us today on a friday. i am the deputy director. the atlanta counsel. those of you watching this event on line please pressure to follow us hashtag d.c. russia. it's my pleasure to moderate this distinguished panel today on a really important set of laws that are passed in russia that unfortunately we have not heard very much about and the american and western media.ce the council has been very engaged to highlight the the increasingly repressive regime under president putin and russia , going from the closureand ru
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of the civic space, the media space and also increasing -- and human rights under putin today. today we hope that approximately 20 events to highlight these issues on russia and i worked very closely with what is considered the emerging or consistent russian operation in russia today including individuals. we are really part -- proud of this work in this is part of highlighting some of these worsening trends. we would like to introduce a distinguished panel to to my left does the senior director for russia and eurasia at the national endowment for democracy. she has a ph.d. in international affairs from
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boston university and she's been following developments in the civil society space for many years so it's a delight to have her with us today. next to murial we have kathy. the religious freedom which kathy represents here today. kathy joined the commission on international religious freedom as a senior policy analyst inas 2003. she has really been an expert on not just the soviet situation but the soviet era as she has been in many places across western europe during some of those most tumultuous times, the 1990s and even before. kathy thank you for joining us. next to kathy lee have our colleague who is a research
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fellow at the hudson institute and hanna has been spending a lot of time in ukraine through the peace corps volunteer there but has been following the political domestic development in russia today very closely including a lot of research she has done on mr. putin himself ar a political leader so thank you for joining us. pan out i want you -- to god and serve you. you are following the domestic processes in russia and a great deal of work on this yourself. since the beginning of his last term in 2012 there has been a lot more attention paid to the growing pressure and civil society media and basic human and civil rights in russia. i wondered if he could start us off by giving us a big picture. a law was passed in the summer of this year, this yarovaya law.
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these laws are used in anti-extremism and antiterrorism on civil society and other forms of freedom of expression. my question to you is this really that extreme in the russian context or is it just another incremental set of lawso in line with what we have been seeing and the kremlin today? >> first i thanks to the atlanta counsel and the international religious freedom for convening this seminar today. it's very nice to see that these issues are actually being discussed here in washington. i think over the past couple of years all of the events that have been occurring in the western and eastern europe have shifted our attention away from some of the really unsavory kinds of things that have been o happening in putin's russia so
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i'm glad we had a chance to sit down focus in on those. thi we were asked about this as well as internet freedom and civil society. a to get to your question, it is very incremental. what we have seen since 2001, sorry 2011 and 2012 the last time we had parliamentary elections in russia we saw a large amount of people take to the streets protesting what they considered to be an election protesting the idea that vladimir putin had simply got up on stage and said i will return as your president and you will have very little choice in the matter.si we saw hundreds of people on thr streets and other cities likepre st. petersburg but ever sinceeev that point we have really seen vladimir putin's kremlin become extremely concerned that they
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will lose control of the political situation in the country and i think that fear was only exacerbated by what happened in ukraine just a year or two later and they saw that there really is this kind of potential for people power or for people who are extremely upset and disgruntled with the way their leaders are handling the country and leaders are pushing the boundaries too far. they thought they that would be a possibility and that's really come you can see a trend of the past couple of years that is really push them in that direction. you have a full set of thesey kinds of movements in these kinds of laws and who are named for the parliamentarian arena yarovaya law who was the one that pushed them and was the initial sponsor of the bill. these are just another in a long sort of lists, long laundry list you could go through the fence and decisions and laws that
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pushed through over the past two to four years that have slowly been eroding civil rights and civil liberties of russians. i think it's also very important to mention that many of these laws are in some ways seemingly targeted towards folks in the annexed crimea and it doesn't get as much attention as a shed over the last two years you have really seen some of these anti-terror laws they are announced as being are in a way kind of targeted against people like ethnic ukrainians in crimea who aren't very keen on annexation and they are willing to go out and protest and willing to say something about the way they are being treated so you have a situation in which these anti-terror laws can really lead to stymieing political protest, to put people in the kremlin regime doesn't
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like people they consider to be potential troublemakers, to put them in jail, to silence them and so you are seeing a trend towards that direction and unfortunately it's starting to take and other people in its trap. i think kathy will talk a lot about what's happening now with the liberties of certain groups of religious people, certain different sections that are not orthodox, jehovah's witnesses and mormons all being caught up in this net essentially saying we at the kremlin have the idea of what it deemed to be a russian and if you don't fall within those ramifications than you are out. >> so you are really describing a centralization of control over society not just the economy
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which we have come to expect from the kremlin are quite sometime but the trend now in centralizing control over religious institutions and all the specific states is something that we pay more attention to and will be the next step in this overall system of control we have seen established. you have also brought up thissh idea of the potential for great fear of the regime and i will go back to that a as most of youu probably know russia will be holding its next parliamentary election and will be the first time held in crimea as well. this is something i think we h should come back to. i will take this over to you for a moment. you work for the national endowment for democracy who specializes in development of civil society and society in
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russia is under many types of pressure coming cruising hostile laws such as begin to cerebralal sloth which is a trend of civic oppressions and alsoso disinformation campaigns where a actors are humiliated on television and suffer physical threats and reprisals. many russian domestic organizations continue their work in russia.a please tell us more about theor challenges of the civic groups who are still working russia despite these many challenges.y >> thank you. that's a great way of introducing the topic. i want to start off with the protests of 2011 and 2012, which is suppressing future protests like that is the theme of the various repressive laws thates have been passed and among the
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first of them was the foreign agent's law passed in 2012 so you can't in the way compare thw sub legislation that just came into force in july is one of a series of worsening pieces of legislation so the kremlin wanted to clamp down on public assembly so much rougher sort at this point in even individuals can be interpreted as mass disturbances and people can get jail time. get jai law and extremism. laws on extremism have now been applied on line so there areed four or five new cases and last year people going to jail for liking something on facebook or reposting something interpreted as extremism. usually the content is pro
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ukrainian and there was a case where young man went to jail for three years for reposting ukrainian content to 12 people.. so there is a kremlin sense from 2011 and 2012 that protest can break out anywhere, not just organizing in jails but protest for organized on twitter and facebook so the internet has to be controlled and its needs t increasingly control. the violation fits into this general trend. kathy will talk about religious sphere and going to jail for lasso me essentially. they have a which trial and three women were sent to jaile a according to russian legislation. the foreign agent's law, there is a character in hemingway's
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novel who lost his money for scratch landauer once and that is part of the implementation on these laws. first gradually if you organizations. initially the foreign agent's law was written so you have two voluntarily at yourself on theao list and of course no one did. not humanitarian social frustrations, no one put themselves on the foreign agents list. the justice ministry puts you on the list so now there are 150 organizations and organizations are fighting at all the time in court. among the most recent additions to the foreign agent law. the russian contacts that are identifying yourself as a foreign agent is basically to s say i take money from abroad and i must buy. in the 1930s stalinist purges sent millions of people to their
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deaths basically on the charge of being a foreign agent. so to brand themselves as a foreign agent. so among the most recent to the registry is russia's best independent pollster that found that united russia as declining support. in their most recent they found united russia has 31%. very quickly after that they were put on this list effectively shutting them down a couple of weeks before the parliamentary elections.e the last example is a wonderful metaphor of what's going on. any kind of volunteerism is construed as a political, potentially political threat so in the summer the forest firestr there were these large forest
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fires going on and to environmental volunteer groups organized volunteer firefighters to go fight forest fires. they would stop by -- they were stopped by the ministry.unteers stopping volunteers trying to fight forest fires and declaring environmental watch for caucuses and foreign agents. you have civil society trying to do something helpful and beneficial. if the state doing everything they can to suppress it because god forbid anyone does anything independently but in the meantime you still have a forest fire. anythin and there's an wonderful metaphor for what's going on in russia right now. >> there are two things i want to emphasize to get people too e understand the domestic situation for russians in russia and in the u.s. contents -- context it be like the french
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posts on facebook this would have legal criminal consequences. this is really i think extreme and a profound sense of that word and on the other hand with the sub to center putting itt really shows how closely the kremlin is watching activitiesit of civic groups and when there is something done that if even a small bid against the current government seized as what needs to be done and what should be done organizations are basically being immediately shut down.ninm immediately after the polls came out as i recall. i wanted to dig a little deeper on the civil society question. the specific laws, how are they
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going to further affect the work of civic groups in russia today? >> the yarovaya legislation targets everybody. it has some shocking provisions. one of which is in legal -- legal obligation to inform you dance potential criminal acts. it's a 1930s type of legal standard and how that is supposed to function and what that means.at is su it's an obligation to become an informant. that piece of it -- the other piece that is astonishing is the internet provisions are in the obligation by internet providers
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loosely defining anyone who is on that sphere to collect and store all data, photos or anything the internet in russia has to be stored the content has to be used stored for six months. government has access to without any warrants. it's a system of total surveillance.as acces metadata has to be stored for three years.ll the idea is that in addition to that encryption a company must provide encryption to the government and anonymous accounts are impossible if a provider is obligated to terminate an account if a person cannot be -- the recount.ccount. it nullifies privacy completely
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so it goes after the entire population as opposed totoso organized or informal groups but the implication of that set of provisions is huge. it also, one of the things that we think about is when one country adopts a set of rules you can expect others. the idea that some companies may start providing a backdoor for somehow breaking encryption, what i should say about it is also the technical requirements are kind of ridiculous. encryption is probably not possible to break. but the direction is very dangerous because if it's accepted in one place it can be accepted in another.
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if it's compromise here can be compromised elsewhere and these pieces although again it wasn't initially in force but now it's very much enforced. it's not enforced today so it will be tweaked a little bit and enforced and not such a ridiculous form but in some kind of equally dangerous for him not too long from now. just the fact that the law is written so broadly and cover so much that today it's not enforceable does not mean it shouldn't still worry us and they potential implications is extremely troubling. >> we will go back closer to the end to talk about these broaders ramifications not just for domestic society -- society but
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other potential diffusion acrosm other regime specifically and i do want to talk a little more about more of the underreported consequences of this law which you mentioned, an application to become an observer which goes back the. period of the soviet union. another aspect that i think is underreported that i would like to have attack about specifically is the consequences of these laws on various religious groups that are functioning in russia today. kathy could you tell us a bit more and hannah already started talking about it, how the neww laws of religious groups and which won't which is groups are ready being affected and are most likely to be affected in the future? >> before doing that i wanted to mention one other aspect of they sub that is particularlyrt
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mind-blowing as a pose which is it lowers the age of criminalnd responsibility to 14 for numerous so-called terrorist crimes. so in addition to making it a crime to fail to report a possible crime in other words to inform on your neighbors stalin style now children as young as 14 can be held liable for crimes. cri also i wanted to mention that the internet position there was a lot of complaints from the community, the technical companies involved in all of this because it's enormous and expensive to do with the law i requires so even our issue said they were even granted an extension so those requirements did not go into effect for another year. we will see what happens.
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>> as far as the religious aspect is concerned there many ways in which religious communities may and already are being affected by the law.ma one is again not just religious communities. their enhanced penalties under russian extremism law that affect all kinds of people in civil society, crimean tot tars and of course religious believers. as one aspect of extremism law that gets not much reporting but the two reported in the chapter from our annual report which is available in print and of course on line also in russian are chapter from our annual report and that is that there are now 3800 items on russia's officially banned books and materials and internet sites and many of them are religious
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materials. a majority of them are muslim which do not advocate violence in any way. there was a major scandal i believe it was a year ago whenag they tried to ban its translation of the koran which had been very, was very popular translated by a prominent scholar into russian and that was overturned. works on extremism list can bess overturned with extreme difficulty and also i won't go into detail, it's mind-boggling that permutations of the extremism law which again that's not just religious believers and of course does include some material which is generally hateful for example to him several years but mein kampf is
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on the list. but this only applies to conditions so that will give you a flavor of how monk by going and complex that particular aspect of the law is as well. the extremism law has been used against the religious community. two particular aspects, if acu community has been ruled by a court to be allegedly extremist than any person who is active in this legally liquidated community he's liable for criminal prosecution as engaging and extremist activities to which groups are the most affected by back?? of pacifist groups jehovah's witnesses, one and the other muslims who read the works of well-known turkish kurdish theologian.
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why is he on this list of officially banned material? probably because the russians feel a little funny about theab fact that an estimated 20 million of their population are muslim and art turks. of course many other groups and you know enough about the north caucasus to note that the caucuses is language bound and needed indeed it is in the majority of them are muslim as well. the potential is huge but to get back to the other dialogue it seems to the interlocking directorate which is very complex. i should mention religion and that is the 2012 law on defending religious sentiments.
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it has amended the criminal and administrative code and i just want to briefly mention two very vivid examples of the way in which that law is being used. one is an atheist who is on trial or at least the trial started in march of this year. he lives in -- and he went on line being extremely skeptical shall we say but he is on trial for offending religious sensibilities in the russianli orthodox community. a more recent case in septembern well it speaks for itself shall we say. a russian video -- after whom
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the said love was named is now under house arrest. he was transferred from prison because he posted a video of himself playing pokémon in a russian orthodox cathedral. so i think those examples showst you how shall i say, his flowery excesses of all of us. the sub to law, won't go into great detail about the provision except to say basically this is one major step towards requiring religious communities in order to be able to function, to full, function as a religious group is one step towards requiring that they be registered each month. currently they register with the state which is not currently required. because the only people who can legitimately engage, given
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limited but still activity those that are either clergy were on the board registered for the community or perhaps written permission from a general meeting of the registered religious community. but even they can only engage in missionary act 70 in very limited places, mainly inside buildings or on land owned by these registered religious communities. lly evangelical protestants are often denied permission to build churches in russia and many of them choose not to register or refuse registration because it goes against their religious beliefs. to register with the state.

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