with anonymous social media. >> and who can protect them and with that speeling of hatred. the with the of legitimate concerns and the internet is not all 24 carats that what we agree and that is modest and what it is based on. >> based on knowledge and

culture to help that flourish and more broadly and there are signs. but the fairness for example, with the same-sex marriage debate is a powerful force in the world with those divided forms of political forum and protest. and the debt at today's hamilton thieu's hip-hop with some uncomfortable truths about politics.

those are deep-seated beliefs and context it is simply cannot be resolved with social change and will try to reform the itself with new conventions and ideas so i am hopeful about the future. >> but you say in your acknowledgments with the amazing publisher and what kind of instrument that has led to that.

but you'' to him from when you decided to take this to new york and gave the following advice which i think is different from what he gave you end that very much improve the social world but for me, and george had a desk very close to george orwell and he had

believed -- live through this story that i tell soleil think about the book he died a few months ago but he was an inspiration for the of block of literature and turning politics. >> and i can say thank you and congratulations

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outstanding panel very soon but i just want to tell you when be over 10 and 20,000 people that are enjoying this incredible book festival that is the largest public free book festival in the galaxy. that the topics and it is emblematic that is research and. and one of of books to be discussed today is one i have been reading over the weekend, of brooklyn bridge park. first of all brooklyn bridge park as we know it is

fabulous a transformational multipurpose people's park to have exercised and barbeques all the time. and the scene on location of the of waterfront from the '50s. is transformational. and working together to have solidarity rather than being divisive and corrosive. with the educational institutions and then we help to grow the great borough together so look at

this book among others. sum would be available to purchase and then the end of plaza there are tents out there don't worry if there is streusel you'll have that opportunity. september 17th the congressional mandate is constitution day. bylaws schools around the country engaged in civic education and to educate the public about the constitution and the meaning to achieve the aspirations. so this day when so many address the issues of voting rights and civil and civic engagement, constitutional

and legal questions of citizenship, we are very happy to post as part of our celebrations, the brooklyn book festival. all the topics are right on point including the shameless plug in this space , ralph nader, the power to deal with the power and glory of marshall thomas. pardon me, gloria brown marshall. i need all the help fight can get and thomas frank to address of questions of the day. steven that could be

interesting session. today is also the day in brooklyn commemorating the second anniversary of the tragic shooting of two police officers that were both of color and then to be so involved with the book festival in to be involved in that observation with the first responders of police and other uniformed officers as a former police officer himself in terms of the need of mutual respect and understanding so just to take a few seconds to pause and reflect on the loss of those two officers and the need for greater respect

than serving be officers community to look at the families of those officers at that time and how we need to approve together. -- improved to gather. thank you very much. on this constitution day, for our panel to take their places to begin vigorous conversation about empowerment. >> i don't know if we are wondering when dash worthy of the table. >> amadis team which professor at the fed university of new york.

some panelists had family emergencies but don't worry we have the author of not working. and the book we are discussing today the edge becomes the center. >> is good to be here. >> we will set up a context of where we are today and then you can tell us wet has been discovered in the research. there was the gi bill after world war ii offered low-interest loans and given this way to put a lot of money into the hands of urban developers. it is a program for ethnic

whites from the york city so with the suburbanization and with that racial stratification and that the same time with those revolutionary movements. but in the of mid-70s york city was going broke. it is on the argument and to bring in the wealthier people with social services but today it is filled with rich people and social services are a disaster.

because rehash reagan with the rich people paying a overtaxes. with the corporate welfare system and a huge tax breaks and of the children of white flight to have the emotional attachment but get to they return with the burden of suburbanization a homogenous aesthetics with the experience of the gated community and those people that we think those that come to the city with the belief willing to trade freedom for security. and many people believe 500,000 affording - - affordable housing units

that the mayor promised to hundred thousand at all know what has happened to that. sewed to start to do an oral history of gentrification where do you start? >> that is a good question. i started a list of people unwonted to talk to. and then i want to talk to landlords. and politicians and developers and i share that list with a bunch of people and a group. and those that identify i wanted to engage that 5410 people but replaces that i started in the street for

those to be stationary for a long time but it started with a woman named barbara shaw she was on third street for a long time. she was the first woman that was instrumental of the coopers committee and so forth but it was almost like the east village that would say hello it was a good starting point passed away a few months ago. and also on the lower east side east village grew up on coney island and hanging out

to convert to the street art to the high-end are to and we have his perspective for i knew we would and then talking to developers and to get some more free-wheeling perspective what were your conclusions but what and talk to be several days or several hours tuesday in exchange for those who loved then end the city a long time how did the east village change? i could not figure that out then one day a light bulb

would go off the we were walking down the street that there were spikes' their son nobody could sit there the redo everything had changed. with those inconsequential things but the types of changes in the neighborhood changed the dynamics and it draws attention to how different types of people have different types of ideas. i lived in brooklyn on a saturday night you will see barbeque grills and that isn't the case and that came to mind.

that is an easy to be socially healthy. >> and how that has been transformed in the apartment people will spend more time inside. even in the city with those two apartments that would have five people each it is knockdown to become a loft with water to people or people are in a public space. but that has brought increased placing of public space that used to be a part of life but now is literally illegal. >> with profession aside and

went with it to talk about back in the day and 2.and then go get yourself. to talk about the 90s and 2000's in then flying to the hamptons to make a drop-off then go back that evening so he started to cater to the two wealthy drug buyers is the answer which i think is helpful so that is the prevailing narrative of how we need to clamp down and with a lot of white people and when started selling drugs.

>> and with the award winning as a political contributor to cnn. >> thanks for having me. >> tell us about your new book. >> it's also. amazing. i yield the rest of my time. [laughter] the book tries to make sense of what happened in ferguson 2014 i went down august 10 to have a story of mike brown and to make sense of that moment and the question then struck me was the trauma that the suburb was

feeling. you could hear the stories of the children largely unproductive and not engaged by the state whether police or medical establishment. i watch elders who would play football talk about of blood being stained on the concrete. it wasn't just his death but the lack of response laying out there four and half hours. they said the left and now they're like they don't belong to nobody. and that is what i pulled. i realize that sense of abandonment. that was not reducible to the interplay it was far

more significant with the normandy school district. it was the dysfunctional school district in the nation that is why we need school choice options. and with that analysis with that functionality is on point. that it was less -- was left jobless as many big factories would leave like st. louis to outsource in the far east then the job market evaporates. and then it comes stopping interesting citizens. co that is 20,000 people that is the town business.

that was not even in issue. he was stopped for jaywalking. so between that but did is a failed experiment by any measure, those led people to go to ferguson to see a black happened and certainly that was a although eric was killed but but we were right back in ferguson before that then we went on a tumor one

or freddie gray who was beaten which is why they chased him which is why he ran. so my book tries to get underneath that. but that was the prosecutors' offices. the way public defenders can be disempowered. with the black women and girls are criminalize. that nobody has the school's ability but it is about racism it is largely indebted. to ignore the fact that rimini illiberal moment.

and then that becomes the ultimate decider and with privatization and teethree condition that is common sense this underrated by that assumption to get the bigger story of what it means to be nobody. >> all dependent on corporate media for information the black people always knew a there was violence but white people did not understand once there was candles through cellphone the country was forced. and with white people it was eliminating but with black people is it traumatizing to be constantly subjected over and over? >> first on the one hand

that technology will force you to come to terms but they've offering these narratives forever we saw rodney king that did not change beyond that moment. supply amylase wary that white people did not know but now with technology? we told you but there is a way that blacks storytelling doesn't have this evidence. -- residents even with the same circumstances that you are forced to come to terms. but walter scott and freddie gray was. coming to terms some of the nation was the activism that came out of it but the technology absolutely forced

the nation to come to terms that was mind-boggling be watched them get shot on camera and then say he was suspended in school. we come up with this are excuses of what we saw with our own eyes i am not sure even technology is enough for where we want to be ended as there is something incredibly traumatizing to go on twitter to witness costly the re-enactment of that moment where walter scott is killed watching him running away. with the taser we watched rodney king get beaten for years. it is traumatizing so i am careful how the media will express the narrative by one year that is all we did berger was grateful we were talking about it then donald

trump comes now is more interesting. black people have not stopped the. >> then we went back to what donald trump said or did not say. so i become very frustrated with the hyper visibility of the most salacious parts in the most traumatizing parts. >> to you think it is the television entertainment class for donald trump? >> you don't want me to be employed. [laughter] that is a great question. no. i don't. [laughter] and think that is the simple answer to a complicated question but yes absolutely

sold-out all media to the trump machine. that ridiculous display on thursday or friday where donald trump will give of press conference that the president of america was in fact, american. [laughter] if it is an absurd but it is good now? obama lead out the long form for cert there were strakes come of violence in mexico and then to go out to the

military generals it has nothing to do with the topic . we were exploited for a full hour but the media was outraged that because of donald trump did a press conference. >> let's stop talking about him. [laughter] we did not know what the topic would be. and to go back to all of our conversations and to say you are the reason and most white people are voting for donald trump. with questions of job flight or nationalism and that is

what we need to wrestle with but sometimes he say the media created donald trump. >> so what is the most exciting social movement? and the platform is very clear hiv positive people are in knowledge palestine acknowledges this is the progressive platform and that the same time to have huge numbers that the demonstration meyer people say we have the enough reorganized around him but

the idea we have had enough. with that open casket animated a certain type of activism. with the activist you watched it all over the world. and to get the energy after. it wasn't tied to the church the first mainstream into racism movement but even the nation of islam to some extent is very much religious. wasn't led by clergy at the increasingly secular movement.

to use technologies speaking to the needs and the interest of young people being engaged right now. so with black lives matter it is a hash tie gifford. that was a key part but that energy from occupy reminded people there is something the belt horizontal leadership that is more important that the speakers to tell everybody what they are supposed to do. that leadership model is interesting and those that laid the intersection and that to say raising is important.

and with the trans identity. but you have to cook talk about this anymore complex and dynamic way. with a few ferguson activists. and we organize and connect with people. we went to jerusalem and we connected with the occupied people in a few places. but, in nazareth, but we saw the connections between the two that when we were in the

of mosque to talk about the ferguson strategy. and what we were in ferguson and then to put the teargas out of our eyes. with that diaspora across the globe and the connection with white supremacy in bellmore global and inclusive and that is why it is so significant to people. in the difference between

the sexual violence. >> as we were talking to describe capitalism i expect violence and we have unrealistic expectations from capitalism. is competitive but the problem for me is the state to violence because our only hope for addressing the malfunctions is democracy. it isn't acting as with those areas you have eliminated. and those that empowered democracy to do what it can do and that is other than money but we will not arrive that remedies.

>> if you want to ask questions. >> speaking of a democracy. >> has the justice department taken over the police department have any impact on the situation quite. >> agree question. in 2014 the revenue was around $3 billion this share was 500,000. and the part of that it is a can win situation people still feel safer or more

connected and jaywalking stops don't happen as much to say if there is any heightened sense of safety but the police force has also changed because of san louis and now there are more that is a small problem to think that could be less significant. >> i wish nothing but good for you.

>> we're just so proud of the views. >> but may bsa north african. so i am not really one to take a side. >> or if we talked about that on the phone over what you have done. you just make me so proud as an african person to express that love and gratitude. >> that is all wanted to say certain i want to comment

but fighting against what we need for equity. but we constantly driving up the the demons but you focus on democracy. they are completely incompatible we need to have a complete different system. and now we begin to see that those other things you may need to look at.

that we are going down to recapture the intellect or energy but nothing but a complete change of make a difference. >> we appreciate the perspective but as was mentioned sometimes i am put into a category as a white person. pub where he. >> but there is a complexity

and that the l. lowell so i would agree with you here to be as radical of the progressive does anyone than white people say this. i can see how that would be frustrating at the same time. with a lightness and in the context of privilege than there are ways to be lumped in. you are afforded the benefits and the privileges of white. so to see those but the best thing that white allies can do to be great organizers in

their own community. we were darren newark but i guess there were some perverse and they started to pull down the signs and the black people said don't do that. [laughter] the police will come. they were like stoplight your respectability politics. [laughter] part of the way they were in gauging but the second was the way they fail to recognize to challenge the authority is cool.

but as certain level i think that's fine. but despite the fact they were with us with the energy or the politics with a certain types of protection that is a convenient position the it and and white people next time somebody is shot that don't say how much? you can breed. i appreciate your shirt to go where the black clive's matter t-shirt that is far more significant. to me that is incredibly important. so i share your frustration we are all lumped into things we are not but that is the price that we pay.

>> tender stand what you say but what about middle-of-the-road people of in day are raising families but they see the wrong. no question. and then to do other things with their lives. to be said kenneth parents better sickbed to care for people they know what they see is wrong. and there is a lot of people like that particularly in new york city. so how do we help the cause and say we support you but.

>> i don't like people to feel good about doing nothing laugh laugh. [applause] but they may support you. >> i have lots of thoughts in my head right now but said the key gauge meant find a way to drink more coffee with black lives matters i went to rally with my three year-old daughter i did not have a babysitter but we just went there are so many things in my life i could use as a reason to not be engaged civic engagement is by the wayside. i interviewed a guy named daniel for oral history for york magazine last fall. he was talking about the 77 blackouts but that was over

many decades and said i cannot get it out of my head but black people are the most forgiving people in the world and the way he looked at me i walk down the street with my wife and daughter in the looks that i get that i am that guy. i am and i have to except that and have no place to get my underwear in a what i have to re except that context i stepping into and after that when you except that context is to listen the resent one more important word than listen. they say this school is broken. no. just listen people know the

problems and they will gladly tell you her listening in is essentials starting point this is the historic context we are in for a car parents and grandparents they did things they should not have done and we are trying to help them move past that. >> two minutes left. >> can you both expand the little on the education issue? i feel specifically of school segregation that the conversation has changed and could you save you have been hearing discussing schools in general and racy that conversation going in the future? >> q. have one sentence each. [laughter] >> i have the new book and

january data give some some of this and i am also one. [laughter] but we see is resegregation almost moving back to where we were witches not the public but has about resources imparted the of professional dash project is but it is creating that said turkey did impact in times of the resource but also the inside and schools and those said their making but then all the approaches refer to schooling. >> checkout uh could

organization that helps the of latino kids don't have other resources and to be good to articulate how we look toward implementation that we will lead never do with other schools that we try to correct the that is the quickest shorthand i could give you. >> francs for coming to a the of book fair. >> nobody. is the name of my book. >> the edge becomes the center. >> my book is the gentrification of the of mind. thanks. [applause]

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there is no question they should have come together to

pace the -- to pass immigration reform legislation. [applause] pdf. >> they were not that far apart but this congress would not sit down. so in the book i emphasize the doesn't take much to change this but one thing. one person willing to be a leader and stepped-up with the congressmen or senators paul ryan. i have a lot of faith in him or as a president. i work all the time with bill clinton we did not agree philosophically but we would talk. he called one night at 2:00 in the morning the phone is on my wife's side of the bed

she says it is the president and hands it over. i say yes to be will look into that. she said what did he want? i said i don't know something about central america. laugh laugh here is the point. we talked all the time working through budget issues, defense, and do we agree? no. a lot of times we pressed each other but we communicated i was then the house eight years meeting every tuesday morning sometimes it was bipartisan some of the trend of not communicating is a recent phenomenon developing with george w. bush with

immigration reform and i say it is one of the big issues that we would have done much we should have done we would not be here it is about legal immigrants people coming into america that cannot get here. i had to doctors from canada that wanted to come to a mississippi. . .