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senator from utah. mr. lee: i ask unanimous consent to suspend the quorum call. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. lee:  mr. lee: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the senate be in a period of morning business with senators permitted to speak therein for up to ten minutes each. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. lee: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that when the senate completes its business today, it adjourn until 9:30 a.m. thursday, september 22. following the prayer and pledge, the morning business be deemed expired, the journal of proceedings be approved to date and the time for the two leaders be reserved for their use later in the day. further, that following leader remarks, the senate be in a period of morning business with senators permitted to speak therein for up to ten minutes each until 11:00 a.m. finally, that following morning business, the senate resume consideration of the motion to proceed to h.r. 5325 postcloture. further, notwithstanding the provisions of rule 22, all postcloture time on the motion

to proceed to h.r. 5325 expire at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow. finally, that if the motion to proceed is agreed to, senator mcconnell be recognized to offer a substitute amendment. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. lee: if there is no further business to come before the senate, i ask that it stand adjourned under the previous order. the presiding officer: the senate stands adjourned until senate stands adjourned until >> the senate today blocked an attempt from senators rand paul and christopher murphy to block a 1,000,000,000 dollars sale of tanks and other military equipment to saudi arabia. senators paul and murphy said they wanted to block the arms sale because of concerns of saudi arabia's role in the civil war in yemen. and because the saudi arabia support first writing a conservative version of islam.

the senate is still working on a short-term government funding bill. current funding expires on september thirtieth. meaning the the government would shut down without action by congress. >> house and senate leaders hammered the first nails into the presidential inaugural platform. inauguration day is four months from today. our capitol hill producer tweeted this video from the event. >> it has indeed arrived, if we please pick up our hammers and join me in driving the first nail for the presidential inaugural platform, let's let's do that on three. one, two, three. (hammering sounds).

>> well done. [applause]. >> the smithsonian national museum of african-american history and culture opens on saturday. c-span will be live from the national mall for the 10:00 a.m. dedications are my. we'll hear from president obama and the museum's founding director. ahead of the museum's opening c-span spoke with members of congress about the new museum. >> and congressman johnson, can you give us your views of the importance of the new african-american museum to the country? >> it means so much to the collective psyche of african-american people who throughout the history of this country have been beleaguered

with a lack of knowledge about our history. when you do not really know how great your forefathers or forebears have been then it is hard for you to capture in the present moment how great you are and what your future potential is. and so this museum will do is to restore the ability of african-american people to reach back into history to see how great we have been, or forebears have been so strong and able and so accomplished. so as each successive generation views those accomplishments, which which we're adding to daily by the way. it does nothing but strengthen our people, it strengthens our culture and it strengthens the fabric of america which of course is comprised of a multitude of threads. african americans a major thread

in the history of this great nation. >> they have said that we see the museum as the american story, his african-american lens. what you think about that. >> i think that is a great observation. i would also add to it that it enabled african-americans to. to our own unique background and to be proud of our accomplishments and to have hopefulness about the future based on what we have already accomplished in the past. of course the present moment is the most important phase of living be at the past present or future, but being able to look back onto the past provides us with a clear hope and even guideline for our future. so if we have accomplished so

much in the past there's no reason why we can't continue to cut through the challenges that we face uniquely as african-americans and continue through build a tremendous positive history. as demonstrated by the election by the american people of the first african-american president eight years ago. he has been elected twice now and serve two terms that is leaving office with a very positive popularity rating or favorability rating. it says so much about what he and as a representative, what we have been able to accomplish despite the obstacles that were thrown in our way simply because of the color of our skin. >> can you tell us what the museum means to you? >> it means i have a home.

it means i can go savor the accomplishments of my past, i can go learn about them because we have been cut off, part of our challenge in this country is that our history we have been deprived of our history. it has been a systematic calculated approach to handling the african-americans is to cut them off from their history. actually forbid them from learning about the history and then what history there has been has been skewed so as to not be accurate. so this museum has the opportunity to recast our history from a long. and restore knowledge base about our culture that then creates a

collected psyche that is much more healthy then the one that we have right now. let's face it, our collective psyche as a people is damaged right now. this museum will go a long way towards our ability to heal ourselves. also it shows others who decide to come to find out about our history who are not african-americans, it gives them a greater appreciation of our rule and making this country the great nation that it is today. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, so much. >> the smithsonian national museum of african american history and culture opens for the first time on saturday. c-span will be live from the national mall starting at 10:00 a.m. eastern for the outdoor dedications or money. speakers include president obama

and lonnie bunch. also in attendance will be first lady michelle obama, former president george w. bush and mrs. laura bush. u.s. supreme court justice john roberts, congressman john lewis and smithsonian secretary david . watch the opening ceremony live in saturday morning. the c-span radio app and c-span.org. >> between hillary clinton and donald trump we'll look at that pass presidential debates at this saturday at the 1976 debate between incumbent president gerald ford and former georgia government. >> we are faced with heavy inflation, over 12%. we are faced with substantial unemployment. but in the last 24 months we have turn the economy around. we have 500,000 more americans

out of jobs today then were out of work three months ago. and we have had a 50% increase in unemployment. >> a 1980 debate with former california governor ronald reagan and president jimmy carter. >> when i made my decision to stop all trade with the un as a result of the taking of our hostages i announce then and have maintained since that that if the hostages are released safely that we would make delivery on those items which iran owes. >> we had adequate warning that there was a threat to our embassy and we could've done what other embassies did. either strengthen our security or remove our personnel. before the kidnap took place. >> and the 2000 presidential debate between george w. bush and income at vice president al gore.

>> i will balance the budget every year. i will pay down the national debt. i will put medicare and social security and the lockbox and protect it. >> i will take one surf lesson dedicated to social security. one quarter of the surplus and i want one quarter of the surplus back to pay the bills. >> watch pass presidential debates saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, the c-span radio app and c-span.org. >> the race, gender, age and education of the electorate, look beyond the numbers, who is numbers, who is supporting donald trump or hillary clinton ny. king goldstein is the analyst were bloomberg politics. he is the director of the university of san francisco washington d.c. program and a professor in the department of politics at usf.

thank you for you for being with us. we appreciate it. >> i'm happy to be here. >> let me begin by asking what you found out in terms of who is supporting donald trump, who are among the base of his electorate and conversely, hillary clinton? >> guest: let me start with clinton first. when we look at demographics she is getting overwhelming support from african-americans, solid support from hispanics and if you add all of the not white population together hillary clinton has a margin of almost 50 percentage points over donald trump. she is winning with a college degree and she is winning -- for trump, his margins among the groups supporting him tend to be less but he is winning among men, he is winning among over older voters. he is winning among white voters and he is especially strong on average averaging the polls that we have

by close to 30 points with white, non-college degree people. >> so based on that, which sector, which sector of the electorate is in play? >> so the sector and play is white college educated. we said how clinton was doing well with college-educated and trump is doing well with noncollege educated. so it is that spot of white college which is a real swing group. and then the other age group sort of in that. it's a broad range but younger voters for clinton and older for trump but the slightly. [inaudible] >> you're calling this the bloomberg poll decoder what is the methodology and with so many different surveys out there, for example the l.a. times has trump ahead, the latest from nbc news shows hillary clinton is ahead. how do you how do you make sense

of all of this? >> i think what you hear from a lot of foxes do not pay attention to anyone poll. i grew that. don't pay attention to anyone poll. there are are lots of great sites out there that aggregate all of the polls. there's 538 and pollsters.com and other news organizations that aggregate polls as well. so i basically thought well why don't we do the same thing but for the demographics of a survey for what people in politics are sometimes called the internals. winning elections if your campaign managers about maximizing sharon performance and getting polls right is about getting sharon performance right. so i found myself whenever poll came out even i said never sit attention to a single pole i do. you go in and look at the internals and i wanted to know how many democrats and republicans, how many whites, how many nonwhites. often that was difficult to find

sometimes impossible so i wanted to build a tool that would bring all of that in the open so that people could see what the assumptions were of individual polls but in the same way we averaged the top horserace number we should average assumptions about the demographics of the survey as well. >> how do you measure each of the groups? for example if you look at past elections in 2012 older americans vote at a higher rate than younger americans, that is one of the issues that the millennial vote may be supporting clinton but will they go to the polls? >> exactly, most of the polls we have in our decoder are likely voters. different pollsters have different secret sauces for figuring out who is likely to vote. some just ask ask people if they're likely to vote some use sophisticated multi? a and do it in different ways. so what we have said is that each of these polls has an assumption not only about who men will vote for or who women

in older people will vote for, but how many there will be. what proportion of the electric they will comprise. their proportion of the electric is a function of how many there are and exactly as you said whether or not they turn out. so we would also be able to provide an average assumption of what the shape of the electoral will look like and what we found when we averaged all of the measures of partisanship that democrats have about a five percentage point advantage and party id which is a little less than what democrats enjoyed in 2012 when they had a six percentage point advantage according to the exit poll in 2008 when they had a seven-point lean. >> i thought these three numbers which are online at bloomberg politics.com.

2,222,000,000 eligible voters in 2012, 153 million registered and only 130 million voted four years ago. >> so that is actually right. there is a really big difference between the total number of people who could vote, the total number who are registered in the number that actually come out to vote. the last couple of elections we have had between 55 and and 60% of the voting eligible electric come out to vote. if you are survey the key thing is actually figuring out and talking to those 55 or 6060% who represent that 130 million who are actually going to vote. if the people people who say they're going to vote but don't have different attitudes than the people who actually are going to vote then your survey could be biased. >> let me conclude with a question you pose in your essay. what is the shape of the american electorate? >> i will tell you on a novembe. that is the big question.

as i said before, we have a pretty good idea of what particular groups are going to do, the key question is are african-americans going to come out of the same levels they did for barack obama? are african-americans going to support donald trump? highly unlikely. are latinos going to support donald trump in high numbers quest mark highly unlikely. but what proportion it of the electorate will they comprise. >> it is called the bloomberg politics code, the work of goldstein, the director of the washington d.c. program, his work is available online at bloomberg politics icon. thank you for being with us. >> a pleasure to be with you. thank you. >> the candidates for new york's 19th congressional district took part in their first debate last week. republican john and democrat touch on campaign finance, turn limits and net neutrality.

republican congressman representative announced in 2015 that he would not be seeking reelection. this was the first of three debates between the candidates, w amc radio hosted the debate. >> now, from news channel 13 in association with a w amc, this decision 20,162,016 election special. the 19th congressional debate between the candidates. and now your moderator. >> good afternoon. and welcome to to the performing arts studio for today's debate between the 19th congressional seat. i'm your moderator alan, in a moment we will begin our hour-long debate.

first making of our panel today is casey, state editor of the albany times union. the coanchor of 505 at at six, partner in today's debate and w amc borough chief. you can follow today's debate on social media using the # me to enter light debate. we ask the audience to hold their applause till the end of the hour. there'll be no opening or closing statements as our time is precious. they will alternate questions, each candidate will be given three minutes to answer question, his or her opponent will then have two-minute rebuttal. you'll hear a bell ring like this, when the time is up. the candidates determine who will go first by tossing a coin. zephyr will begin. >> thank you to the candidates.

zephyr, use site overturning citizens united and others in terms of reforms you like to bring to campaign finance. your opponent has good size you from taking donations in your federal disclosure shows that you raise more than $1.6 million through the end of june. is your fundraising and conflict in any way with your policy position to remove or reduce big money from politics? >> not at all. first of all thank you for hosting the debate. thank you to john and thank you to all of you who are here in person or listening or watching. look, i've spent my life fighting against big money and politics. we really have a crisis of corruption in our country right now. we have that crisis in albany but also in washington. there's two different parts of it, 11 is just the basic way campaigns are funded. congress is not working right

now and one of the reasons it is not working is because so many congress members spend 40 or 70% of their time just raising money from rich people instead of dealing with the real issues like flood mitigation or supporting independent businesses or education policy or how we can support our family farms. they're not doing their jobs they're working for their big donors. the. the others citizens united which has unleashed and allowed for big corporations to spend unlimited money in campaigns. these are super packs. my opponent there's a super pack that supports my opponent. there are two new york city hedge front billionaires who have given half 1,000,000 dollars

each to a super packs supporting him. my campaign is supported by an average of 19 dollars. i'm proud of the fact that we are grassroots funded. i actually challenged john to a pledge. i asked him to join me in keeping all super pac money out of this race so that we would not have hedge funders like paul who is a free trader and a supporter of common core putting in half 1,000,000 dollars in a race and trying to buy a seat. john turned me down and in fact has said that citizens united was the right decision. when i am in congress i'm going to clean up congress, to change the way campaigns are funded into five for overturning citizens united. everything that i have done throughout my entire life shows i will always work for the people, not the big corporations. >> well, it is a pleasure pleasure to be here as well. i think our supporters in my opponent for participating. i think think this is very important for our voters in our democracy. i think my opponent protest too much. she is raising big money from all sorts of people who are connected to super packs.

she knows the law as well as i do which is that i have no control over what someone may spend or do independently. i'd also point out that she wrote a book on corruption. one of the things she said and hurt book is that the founders wanted to guide against adventures moving into districts that they have no connection to. well indeed, she is an adventure popped into the district, she parachuted in from brooklyn. she just arrived and registered to vote in january of this year. she has no connection to the district, no family business, civic or charitable arrangements. i've lived and worked in the district for 33 years. my wife is the school

nurse at a local public high school for more than 20 years. we are deeply a mashed in the public life of our district. i think if you want to represent people you have to be from here. you have to have some basis from upon which you will say i know this district. this is called the house of. this is called the house of representatives not the house of adventures. and yet her own book warns against adventures. adventures were one of the things founders wanted to guard against. because they generated corruption. she has a very expansive view of corruption. i want campaign refinance a reform. i would like for disclosure of anyone who gives money. but george, big backer of hers, she didn't object when he spent $50 million way before citizens united by the way, to try to defeat george w. bush. citizens united, were not running for the supreme court, were running for the congress. her prescription is public financing which is the thing most taxpayers don't want to have. >> thank you for being here today. my question is for you john. it's a long one. >> i will read slowly.

on wednesday, the house committee on science, space and technology held a hearing on whether new york attorney general eric schneiderman is improperly disregarding the subpoena sent to his office in july. the subpoena had materials of a multistate investigation whether exxon may have misled shareholders about what it scientists were learning about the potential perils of climate change. do you believe the attorney general and others who should be compelled to respond to the subpoenas and to believe the axon probe is a valid arrest some conservatives has categorized it, witchhunt that could chill scientific inquiry. >> i think it does present a challenge of the balance of laws or the conflict of laws if you will. what the power of a house committee to compel via subpoena

an independent reelected state official, i think that is subject to a law review article which i've neither read nor written yet. let me say this, i do think unfortunately this issue has been politicized and i think that's unfortunate. no doubt climate change is real. there is no doubt that we should be trying to take efforts to mitigate it. new york, because we have replaced coal in electric generation with natural gas for the last 20 years we have reduced our co2 emissions by about 20 or 25% in the state. all without due to market forces, not due to any intervention with the government. i think that we need to pursue in energy policy that is in all of the above energy policy. it can look at renewables and we have great subsidies for renewables in state and federal law now. i have supported those. i also think we have to be cognizant that we have to make sure any solution we come to is one that is enforceable across international boundaries. wrinkly i don't trust the

chinese for instance to abide by agreements that they enter into or relating to climate change. we need to make sure that anything we agree to not going to hurt our economy. i have a program on a policy proposal to help small business economy in the 19th congressional district. where, by the way lived for 33 years. i understand the district and i understand the issues they're facing. we have to make sure that in a district like ours where people rely on the cars, they rely on their farm tractors to work in their cars to get to work, the fact is that we need to make sure that any agreement that we enter into relating to climate change is not something that is going to disadvantage our economy and hurt are up status. on like a zephyr who came here from brooklyn, they have subways from brooklyn. she has natural gas in her apartment in brooklyn. a lot of the communities in our

district don't have cheap energy. they have to drive to work. these other things, i want to make sure that were protecting our upstate economy which is really hurting. that is why from elected to congress that is going to be job one. jobs and improving the economy. that and improving the economy. that is the single most important thing we can do. >> thank you. climate change and energy sources, and protecting our water against big polluters is an area where we have a real difference. voters in the 19th district have a real choice. i'm so proud to have been parts of one of the greatest environmental victories in recent history. the fracking ban in new york state. that did not happen because of political leaks, that happen happen because of extraordinary grassroots efforts. people raising the issues of the impacts of fracking on water. the impacts of fracking and compressor stations on air. i am a to fracking, john, my opponent is not only in favor of

fracking but has been paid by the big fracking companies both as the spokesperson and as a lobbyist. it has really hit home, right ear, right next door. i was working with people to stop the ned pipeline. i talked to so many people at meetings, at hearings about their frustration and fear that the compressor station would threaten the health of their kids. were talking about about carcinogens coming out of this compressor station. john was a paid lobbyist for the tennessee gas company which was pushing the ned pipeline project. i am going to go to congress to protect our water against the big polluters. john has already shown which side he is on. it is [inaudible] the side of the people of this district to care deeply about whether their kids can trust the water to drink. we have to care about, like the mom i was talking to a nasa nasa who is worried about her kid plane.

if i can pressure station came inches when you're talking about exxon you're talking about a big polluter who has hired a bunch of lobbyists like my opponent john to push through subsidies and accept exemptions in the law. thank you. >> it is my turn to thank you both for being here. thank you. income congressman chris gibson pledged he would serve for terms, and put term limits on himself. in in fact he is retiring after three. you have said that you support term limits but have not publicly said or specify the length. so will will you publicly state a maximum number of terms he would serve and just to point out your apartment it opponent does not support term limits. >> yes, i support term limits. i would serve five terms. i think ten years is enough to do the work i want to do in

congress but not so long you become a career politician. career politicians career politicians have not been serving our politics right now. i want to talk about the things i can do in those ten years. one of the most important things is a standing up for in independent businesses and family farms. i have released a seven-point plan that would do just that. the core of the plan is recognizing that both republicans and democrats have really abandoned the independent business owner and the family farmer over the last three decades. people talk, but when you actually look at what is happening on the ground it is much worse. you have seen a decline a decline by as much as 40% of the smaller farms across the entire country. that's in part because 75% of the subsidies are going to really big concentrated farms who can afford to hire lobbyists like my opponent. same thing with independent businesses. the true job creators, the small

independent businesses that are really essential in the heart and soul of our communities have suffered in the last 30 years. part one is that we need to bring jobs home. support local farming. we need to make things in america again. my opponent is in favor of fast tracking for the transpacific partnership and other trade deals. i am opposed to fast track and i think we actually need to read look at our trade deals so we can be manufacturing and making things here again. we can be assembling iphones here. we can be doing a lot more of the essential work for putting together our shoes, or close, the basics that we rely on, right here. i think we need to be renegotiating nafta. we have we have a 10 billion-dollar per day, per year trade deficit with china. i think it is absolutely essential that we, when i am in

congress i will be standing up against the kind of trade deals that my opponent has probably supported. the second step second step is making sure that our banks are lending again. after the crash of 2008 i cofounded a group dedicated to breaking up the big gate banks and making them lunch or local communities. they're not lending. they're more concentrated and powerful and fragile the number. in congress i'm going to be holding hearings, working on breaking up those banks, and support community banks. want to make sure our independent businesses are getting access to funds. i was talking to a 15 person business in kingston, they have been in the black for four years. they cannot get bank of america to lend to them because they are too small. what you hear over and over again is that access to capital is really central. they are just not getting it from the big banks. >> the term limits, yes, i

support term limits. i would like, this is perhaps one area where my opponent i agree. i would like to serve, if elected and honored to serve i like to serve no more than five terms as well. i think i could as well. i think i could get something done in that. of time. but, in fact when i ran for governor in 2006 i propose term limits for the state. now, it is hard to unbundle all of the untruths and fabrications that were just spewed to you. number one, i've never been paid by fracking company. i've never been a lobbyist for eight fracking company. i did work as an outside consultant for williams which is a pipeline company. that was for a project supported by chris gibson and the local state legislators in our district. she would not perhaps know that because she just right ear from rockland, as you may have heard. the fact is that i oppose the ned pipeline, tennessee gas years ago, i had done legal work for tennessee gas. but that has long since ended and in fact it ended well before tennessee gas was acquired by --

morgan. your fact check checkers need to be looked at. i'm endorsed by the national federation of independent businesses which is the largest small business organization in the country. the reason is because i have a concrete set of proposals to help small business. number one, let a small business expense right off of folded action against their taxes in year one, not with a depreciation schedule. that will accelerate investment in machinery, and vehicles, and equipment, that they need to operate their small business. that is vital we do this. the first plank in suffers plan is antitrust -- after ten years maybe that would help, maybe after 20 but not right away.

>> we have a question about the top of the ticket, you have not officially endorsed donald trump, his presidential bid and you have been very critical of some of the statements including the gold star or parent who spoke at the democratic national convention. you have referred to them as our candidate in you said you will support your party's nominee. now both of you will be running on the republican line. why haven't you officially endorsed donald trump in a state where both he and ed cox, the state party chair have said that they want to be competitive? >> the answer to that question is that i've said right from the get-go when i started running. i announce mike in to see a year ago today on the front steps of our home where mary fran in our have raised our american dream. a year ago today announce my candidacy and i said i was going to support my party's nominee. nominee. that is still the case. i have also said that specific areas rate disagree with them as you so well executed in your

question. the reason i am running has nothing to do with whether it is hillary clinton or donald trump elected president. i am am prepared to work in the model of chris gibson who has it endorsed and supports mansour's race with whomever is elected president. i want to work across party lines to fix problems. i'm not interested in going to washington to be a prognosticator pod and it deciding who is running for president things like that. i'm interested in fixing the problems our district faces. every single county in our district has lost population and last five years. new york state, 1,000,000 people have left new york state in the last ten years. people are voting with their feet, look around you. our kids and grandchildren leave because they cannot find jobs and seniors are priced out of their seniors are priced out of their homes because of property taxes. i have proposed fixing nelson rockefeller is a 50-year-old mistake. that is forcing the counties and cities of new york to pay for medicaid costs that in most case and states are

borne by the state government. it was never intended the property taxpayers would have to pay this significant burden and 42% on average of the county property taxes in our district comes from medicaid burden. the counties have no control over it. so i propose this very first bill i'm going to introduce if i am honored to be elected to the represent people of the 19th district is to end over a five-year period the ability of the state to impose this burden on the local property taxpayers. i went back and read the law. i read the federal law and it is very plain that the federal law permits states to impose part of that burden on the counties. new york went well beyond what any other state did. in the whole country 9,000,000,000 is spent by local governments on medicaid. seven and a half is spent by local governments in new york state. it's another example of how out

of touch new york is. just because it was done 50 years ago doesn't mean we shouldn't try to fix it now. so i have some plans to help small business investment, immediate expensing of the equipment and other purchases for their businesses so they can employ jobs and a plan to reduce the property tax burden that is driving so many people out of state. i think that is what people are looking for, someone who has experience and how to do these things and get things done. i think i am the person best suited to represent the district for those reasons. >> i want to address two different things, first of all, i support hillary clinton for president. but one of the reasons that i feel so strongly about representing the district and i have shown in the past but i'm always willing to be independent when i disagree. and there's plenty i disagree with the top of the ticket on. but i showed two years ago when i ran against sandra cuomo that i am going to be independent and

i think it is really important because people are independent. they have been disappointed by both parties, and that disappointment is real. it is for for real reasons. when i am a represented in congress you can expect i'll be listening only to the people of the district, not political parties and not big corporations. second second i want to talk about taxes. the property taxes are out of control and i group my opponent on medicaid reimbursement. i think it's important something that leaders have been talking about for several decades now it is something that new york should do. i talked to people everywhere i go about the property tax burden and how much is burdening them. i do want to point out that when my opponent had a chance to represent parts of his district before he became a lobbyist he voted for tax raises a 135 times.

i also want to point out that although he lived 30 miles from albany, he missed 1700 votes. so he is taken a paycheck but not showing up. for the times he did show a people did against equal pay. he has already had a chance to show what he is going to do when he is paid to represent, and what he has shown us that he's not going to show up. and then after missing so many votes he cashed out and became a lobbyist. >> you were just talking proximity, we'll continue in that vein. you have only recently moved into the 19th congressional district. your critics called you a carpetbagger. we just heard your opponent reference you as an adventure. how do you respond to this? >> look, i grew up in a rural county, county, two counties

away from the district. windsor county is a dairy community. we had about 40 sheep in a good year without the coyotes. we had 30 chickens, our our neighbors on both sides were dairy farmers. a lot of the issues that are facing the community that i came from are similar to the issues facing the rural communities here. but but what i hear wherever i go in this district is what people really want to know is are you going to stand up and fight for their interest? not lining up with a parting line not selling out to a big corporations? i going to fight for us and do you and listen to us? part of the reason we have so much support is that i have been working with people not just on the fracking band standing up against fracking and for our water but also in the opt out movement which i feel strongly about. common core has been a disaster

in our schools. i've been working with parents, teachers, community members around this district standing up for opt out and recruiting parents and teachers to run for office. recruiting more women to run for offers so we can change the conversation about education. i've been working with the constitution pipeline so, last spring i was sitting on church street talking to 40 people about how we can bring more renewable energy here and how we can get more energy here. i'm a ground-up person, i will always represent people not the powerful interests. that's what i hear and that's what i'm going to do in congress is to be continue to sit in kitchens and listen to people about what they really care about and taking the voices and raising them up when i go to washington. my opponent has shown how he

represents. as i said before he missed 1700 votes. and the votes he made it was against equal pay up or raising taxes. >> it really is amazing to me, 1700 votes. in the time i was in the legislature my voting% was 97 percent. and even in your classroom that we get an a+. the fact is i had a 97% voting record. the votes i'd miss because i was excused for legislative business. i did miss a number of votes did miss a number of votes at the end of session, about 104 at the end of session one year because my wife was being operated on for cancer. i think i was at the right place. i was at the right place at her side in the hospital worried about her and our children instead of sitting in the assembly. i think it's really a below the belt kind of thing. this is really something. someone comes into the district, flies and she talks about votes, she had the very first time to

vote and school board election this year, but they don't do that in brooklyn, she didn't show up to vote for her own school board election. how much to should really care? equal pay? i fully support equal pay for equal work it's been the law for 50 years. the bottom eyes my own mother was disadvantage as an assistant branch manor and training young man man to be branch managers and she did get the job because she was a woman. i fully understand the issue. just like you can't tell about bike cover, you can't tell a bill in bill in the assembly by what title they gave it. the title they gave that was equal pay. it is not equal pay for equal work, it was equal pay for different work. it would've subjected our small businesses, farmers, to litigation enforcement for the department of labor. no standards whatsoever. it really is galling to listen to some of the things. but you expected in politics.

i expect the voters of this district, with this new adventure in the district will come up with other things. but this is what it is. it's it's why she has no basis running here. new york city is a great place, it already has 13 congressmen, we don't we don't have to give them a 14th from our district. >> the 19th congressional district includes where residents have been grappling with water that has been pleaded. recent hearings on the contamination and fallout has left many residents unsatisfied. john, if elected what would you do on the federal level to address the situation which has ramifications across the state? >> i've talked to so many people about what people have gone through and experienced. it shows, number one the failure of state and federal regulators to take the authority they are ready had in the law and why the

state health department issued an advisory in december of 2014 that the water was safe to drink when a google search google search that have been pointed out, google search would have been able to recover information that there is definitely a problem with pfo a and the accelerated levels. congress and the last session actually on a bipartisan basis updated the toxic substance act. a 40-year-old statute that was along in need of updating. i think it is an opportunity for us to continue, to make sure that we have the right bureaucratic responses and also that we are investigating the chemicals that like pfo a were not being tracked and evaluated. i think this was a failure of bureaucracy at the state level and at the federal level. it is a shame they spend their times pointing fingers at each other rather than trying to figure out how to fix the problem and more importantly how do we avoid this problem in the future. but again it brings to mind the fact that i believe in limited government. my opponent believes in big

government and she talks about making big banks lend to small business, etc. the fact of the matter is virtually every one of her proposals and her economic plan basically make it so the small business person is disadvantage. she wants a 15-dollar minimum wage which will kill family farmers. it will really help the farm to table movement except it's in pennsylvania. our farmers will be priced out of the labor market. they cannot they cannot afford what she is talking about. it goes again, she is completely unrealistic and her plans and approaches because she comes from a new york city centric point of view. as said, look at some of the foreign policy. she supports the area deal. i ran was just was just given a ransom of $400 million in cason euros in swiss francs on a pallet that the u.s. sent over there from europe to the to get our

hostages three. we also sent over almost another billion dollars to the iranians for the steel. she even criticize chuck schumer for voting against the area deal. i think of so many issues whether it's her faulty research about my missing votes, by the way tax increases i'm one of the biggest tax cutters there ever was in the state legislator. i was also one of the most fiscally responsible people are always responsible for the first budget and 52 years of the state to reduce spending on a year-to-year basis. 19 and. nineteen and a half trillion dollars of debt in washington, we need someone to go down there cut the budget. >> it will surprise no one -- >> i believe the question was who. [inaudible] which i want to take time to talk about because it is a truly devastating crisis in both who sick falls in petersburg. i spent a lot of time talking to

community members there. there's a wonderful leader there who is a mom and what she talks about is those 18 months were her kid was swimming in the water where she was getting a glass of water for her daughter and it turns out the state new there is something wrong with the water. everybody is to blame. the hearings i have been to have been incredibly frustrating. there is a lot of finger-pointing and no responsibility taking. the state and the federal government have to take responsibility. i have called for federal hearings with subpoena power but i think we also need to move past that. and we need to have real concrete solutions that are going to mean something to people there. that means medical monitoring and when i'm in congress i'll be fighting be

fighting for a fund to pay both for medical and medical monitoring. you talk to parents who are really worried about the ongoing levels of it pfo a's. as well as a response to a health crises. i will stand up for clean water. and i think this is about something more than just that. our water is threatened across the board. i was talking to a young mother of just an eight month old and she said, i've been trying to take a blow dryer and low dry drops of water off my milk bottle. i know that's crazy but she has come to fear water because of the recent water scandals. we have to do everything we can to make sure polluters pay and we stand up to the big polluters. >> it will surprise no one in this room to know that the polls of late have been dominated by disappointment in government.

in some polls congress have ratings in the single digits. you have discussed what you want to do with campaign-finance reform. what else would you do to improve the reputation of government if you are elected? >> i hate to say it but i sort of share the polls view. congress is really broken. it's broken and it is gridlocked and corrupted both at the same time. i really believe in that basic democratic promise of representation and raising up people's voices and making sure their voices are heard. there are opportunities to work across the aisle and into limited areas. when i am in congress i will tell you the kinds of things i will work on, why i start to talk about some parts of my independent business platform. which i think think are extremely important. another is broadband. we have a real crisis with broadband and cell phone service

right now. it's holding back our role economies across the country. fdr in the 1930s came together with republican, rural senators to push through was called the role of electrification act saying you know it by hook or by crook where can i find out how to get electricity to every last farmhouse. because of rural poverty. i think it's time for an updated rda, rural electrification act where we focus on getting broadband and self-service everywhere. but this is something that should not be a partisan issue. the opponents of this are the big companies like comcast that have bought lobbyist, like my opponent, paid lobbyists to push

for keeping the cable industry really tight. basically it's not a monopoly, it's just too big companies that are dominating the market. i believe in more open markets and i believe that we should have more competition and more choices that you as a consumer should have the choice between different service providers. this is an area where i have a real history. i was part of fighting for network neutrality which made sure that our big cable companies do not limit and tell you what your politics are. it's also an area where there should not be a partisan the divide on my. also, in court. as i hope your listeners know by now i've been a strong opponent of high-stakes testing and common core. that is not a partisan issue. it's an issue where bill gates basically, spent a lot of money to try to push a top-down idea. it's an example of federal overreach. it's not working. it's working. it's becoming a real problem for recruitment in our schools. when i am in congress i can work and will be working at cross the aisle to say, not only enough

with the high-stakes testing but what should education look like? what should federal education look like and how can we be supporting a safe, secure school for all of our kids? i'm a big believer in sports in schools, in music. >> thank you. you have heard my opponent castigate me as a lobbyist a couple of times. then as a point of information i think your listeners and viewers should know that the most prominent clients and i didn't have many but the most prominent climate represented in the last five years was autism speaks. i represented autism speaks and had a major role in writing the state law which enhanced health insurance coverage for children with autism. i was there advocate and someone who is out there fighting for them every day. in terms of their needs and the needs of autistic children and for children on the spectrum.

so, i think the overall issue that we face in our country today and the overall issue that upstate new york faces is how to get more growth in the economy? we are growing at about 1.3% gdp per year. what this means is that we will, within 1010 years, every nickel of federal money going to the treasury is going for medicare, medicaid social security and interest on the debt. if we do not get more growth will not be able to fulfill our obligations to seniors and veterans, much less provide the opportunities for our children and grandchildren to find prosperity , happiness and hope in our country. so this is what is going on in our country today. i think in our district, the support for bernie sanders and donald trump in the primary was a manifestation of the economic frustration that exists.

i have a serious plan to build the small business economy. a serious plan to end the overall regulation which you talk about banks, it's the little of the medium-sized banks that are getting crushed by regulation from dodd frank. i had one beggar in the district who told me i have hired these two extra people i spend 80,000 dollars per year just for compliance and they prepare reports that no one reads. that is the is the problem that is stifling small business in our state. . .

>> >> the reason i am running for congress this is one of the problems in our country. the uh left watches them as nbc. but the fact is people are talking past one another. behalf to come to a common ground that if men tip o'neill can up with a plan that is down model we have

to pursue. we have to find more ways of growth in our economy we have $19 trillion of debt. be are passing these costs onto our kids and grandchildren is immoral to do that. if we do not fix this week cannot be a country that is strong domestic leave nor can we have the traditional strengths of our military in the world before security and we have to fight the islamic extremism for my opponents supporting the iranian deal or the movement that was to boycott or divested is an outrage at israel was the strongest ally we have to work with countries militarily with shared intelligence to confront isis and i have not heard anything from my

opponents that she supports the ivory and deal wirth thinks chuck schumer was wrong in gives aid and comfort to the enemies of israel. one month after the cops were gunned down in 20141 month after, she said she praised black lives matter as moral and bobble but if you read the platform you can see how anti-semitic it is. she has a radical views that are not in tune with the people of the district she would never be effective in congress if she got there she is too far to the left. the question was out same-sex marriages and a portion of what to address that directly. in 2006 my opponents did not to say he was privately opposed to same-sex marriage , he said with a

bill came to his desk supported by the legislature in new york state, he would veto the bill to improve -- impose his own views on the york state i feel very strongly of civil-rights for all americans and i would not have veto the bill in of a strongly supportive of sight -- same-sex marriage. second, the question, we all have friends who have views on abortion and i respect those one but i feel very strongly it is not the government's business to tell women what they cannot do it is a private choice and i feel very strongly strongly, that we have to actively be supporting the work that planned parenthood does to provide basic health services many are basic

health services such as cancer screening their very lives issues right now and live in congress there is a bunch of republicans who are stopping funding for this zika virus did not want any money to go to women's health clinics including planned parenthood. we have a crisis and in congress it is very clear where i stand if you look at my opponent's record it is clear where he would stand on the opposing the. >> we will now get to a question. the so-called boycott that punishes for the policies of the west bank should individual states moved by

imposing sanctions on the group that takes part? >> thanks for the question because i wanted to clarify i opposed the movement and i am strong supporter of israel and the two-state solution adding united states has an important role to move to the two-state solution. import policy more generally it faces three very serious threats. one is the threat to the be there iran or north korea getting a nuclear weapon. the reason i support the every and deal is because we cannot allow library and to having nuclear weapon it is too much of a threat to the uranium stockpiles are down

90% this centrifuges down 2/3 talk about actual dismantling we are farther away from a nuclear iran than we were one year ago and that is equally important that we address the threat of force correa and there we have to use our leverage with china because it is not doing enough the second real threat is terrorism and it is so threatening both because the gains territory and it is called the inspirational movement to encourage others to take action even without having a direct connection to the organization. i believe strongly we have to use special capacities to do everything we can. the third is that balance of power which is an area that i feel very strongly that our trade deals including the relationship with china

and other countries have weakened us globally. the core reason to bring jobs home but also because it shifts of balance of power and when rework towards renegotiating the trade deals we need strong relationships with allies but not the billion dollar a day trade deficit with china that we become weaker with there are confrontations in the pacific rim. >> i think that pds movement is abhorrent is against our interests of our allies in israel and i support measures that would support the movement and we have done this before in new york state and nationally with the apartheid movement for of those that supported apartheid, or those said did

not subscribe to the macbride principles there is precedence in they think she wants to have that both why it is -- both ways after she was caught she rushed to proclaim our support for israel but she has a history in the campaign for a governor and in this campaign to be unwilling to take a strong stance in support of israel and that is troublesome. we have to rebuild our national defense and aa the cuts that are expected on the military. chris suspend the forefront on this in congress and one of the reasons why i am pleased to have his support in this race because he is a strong spokesperson for our district and also for the of military but we also have

bernie sanders coming here tomorrow to say mr. snowden was the trader. she belongs to the far left side of the political equation where should be the equivalent of the freedom caucus on the republican side with radical fringes of both parties have frankly cannot get anything done because they're not willing to talk to the aside and collaborate. we have to have tax reform and the regulatory mess that we currently have been washington and how we get jobs back. >> with the proposals have been floating around id you believe that individuals whose names appear on the no-fly list should be barred temporarily from purchasing firearms? to support legislation to federally close the dead

show loophole could. >> a support the second amendment but that doesn't mean that what terrorist to purchase weapons end up question on the watchlist is whether or not there is a due process means by which individuals who are falsely or incorrectly put on have the means to get off and that is the issue to be confronted. if we can come up with that approach to ensure there are due process rights, i am all for it away with support terrorist to be able to purchase firearms. but i don't think that additional federal gun laws stock are necessarily the solution i'd like to see more penalties for trafficking automatic penalties for those that commit a crime with a firearm and those set have

strict gun laws like chicago but skyrocketing murder rates because they cannot effectively police or get those weapons off the streets. one of the issues that is very important to me is the issue of perelman and opioid abuse i have planned an education and treatment and enforcement no doubt where democrats and republicans can work together, heroin does not discriminate between male or female or gay or straight but the fact is it is affecting every community matter where igo and someone will come up to me after words to tell me about a situation in their family that is affected by this.

is extraordinarily p. important another issue is lyme disease with the 21st century cheers act which was essential to get the lyme disease prevention segment in that bill i of hopeful that will pass both houses this year but it is an issue i will take up the battle to make sure we have effective treatment and diagnosis for lyme disease. >> just to be clear, would you support legislation to close that of the federal level class. >> add all think it will be effective / lobbies supportive of that. but the bottom line is that what we have to do in terms of violence in society is in force the laws we have those are not enforced in many cases to have automatic strict penalties at the

state level for those who commit violence with firearms. >> adduce support the gun show new poll and now also think we should make sure those on the new fee -- the no-fly list is on the note i list i grew up in a rural county where my dad had a rifle all men hunt but we also had another gun forgetting the raccoon soup would get into the chickens and any law that is respectful audience to understand the gun is a tool and the essential part of life. the hair when crisis is devastating the death this up three times since 2009 was talking to a father who talked about the day his son

came home to say i want to get help. i need help and he spent one week on the phone with insurance companies trying to find a bed for him. and getting approval from the insurance companies. he could not get it and his son went back and hasn't -- sense overdosed this is addressing the insurance company's role in the broader health crisis right now which is people not being able to afford basic medication and senior is paying a out-of-pocket outrageous amounts or another whose drug costs $300,000 a year nobody thinks it should cost that much but we have to do we have always done which is raised up people's voices to hire the of lobbyist like my

opponent to allow them to be in a position where they can charge a rage as fees. the real problem with the country isn't on the ground but the company's hiring will pay a lobbyist. >> that is all the time we have today for the 19th congressional district be. i would like to thank the candidates and the panelist from news channel 13 and a special shot out for all the hard work putting this together. [applause] >> of look beyond the

numbers to supporting donald trump and why? we have a polling and advertising analyst also the director of the university of san francisco program and a professor thanks for being with us we appreciate it. >> let me begin who is supporting donald trump and conversely hillary clinton quick. >> let me start with clinton first. when we look at demographics getting overwhelming support from african-americans and solid support from hispanics in if you add the non-white population together hillary clinton has a margin of 50 percentage points over donald trump. she wins people with a college degree and also women.

for trump in his margins tend to be less p. is winning among men or older voters or white voters and is especially strong on average by close to 30 points of light not college degree people. >> which sector is in play? >> white college educated how clinton is doing well and tromped is doing well with nine college educated sosa thought to of white college that is a swing group and the other age group is the voters for trump but those that are slightly for clinton or

slightly for trump. >> q called this the decoder and god is the methodology was so many different ones out there, the l.a. times has donald trump ahead and shows hillary clinton is ahead. how do you make sense of that? did make you hear people say don't pretension to anyone poll. there is a lot of great sites that aggregate all the polls. with a bunch of news organizations so we thought why don't they do the same thing for the demographic for what people of politics sometimes called the eternal . we elections without maximizing share and performance is about getting your right so even though i

say never pay attention i do i wanted to know the turtles . how many non-whites? and that was difficult to find your sometimes impossible so wanted to build a tool that would put that out into the open so not only sees the assumptions of the individual polls but in the same way that we should average assumptions about the demographics of the surveys as well. >> if you look at past elections older americans tended to vote data higher rate than younger americans. face a for turbo will they go to the polls? with our decoder we have secret sauce for figuring

out who are likely to vote purpose of use will they question models in different ways. each has an assumption not only about who they will vote for but how many there will be what proportion of the electorate they will comprise that is a function of how many there are or whether or not they'd turn out to provide an average assumption and when we averaged all the of measures of partisanship unbidden talk about the five percentage point advantage that is to left of what they enjoyed in 2012 and this 7.

zero advantage. >> in these three numbers particularly are interesting to hundred $22 million. the number of eligible voters, 153 million registered and only 130 million voted for years ago. >> that is right there is a big difference between the total number of people who could vote, registered in those that come out to vote we have had between 55 and 60%, not to vote so to look at those that represent that that will actually vote because if they say they

will vote but don't come much have different attitudes than those that will then the survey can be biased. >> what is the shape of the american electorate were quite. >> i will tell you one november 9. that is a question the key question is will african-americans, not at the same well awful for barack obama or donald trump highly unlikely. latinos? i am likely. >> it is called the of bloomberg politics decoder from the university of sand francisco and washington d.c. program is available on-line. fix for being with us.

>> it is a pleasure. thank-you. >> fix this saturday the 1976 debate between gerald ford and jimmy carter. >> we were faced with over 12 percent inflation and unemployment but over the last 24 months we have turned the economy around keeping them out of jail today. we have had a 50% increase of unemployment. >> and the 1980 debate and president carter. >> wed nine made dash asian

asian, as a be sold i announced then and have maintained since the death of the hostages are released safely we would make delivery on those items. >> we had adequate warning there was a threat to the embassy we could have done what they do to strengthen our security or removed personnel. but then the kidnapping took place. >> i will balance the budget every year to pay down the national debt. of medicare and social security in the lockbox. >> i will take one half of the surplus for social security one quarter of the surplus back to people to pay the bills.

>> both bush and obama were prisoners of the situation on the other hand they were willing participants of the budget game. >> my opinion is not so high because policies that are essentials lee aimed at his reputation as legacies to undermine general confidence in the economy.

>> looking at that the bills coming up this week so what is the connection to the iranian nuclear deal? >> essentially this bill requires the treasury department to come up with the report on the financial assets of the military leaders did what they use them for and and from the state department with the state-sponsored of terrorism across the of middle east. and hall i ran might be doing this with the path for the united states to go about this but it has seen

some push back as they issued a veto threat to say that the bill would cost what of time and money that would unnecessarily il the any progress. da iranian government has some grief questions of of banking system and it could look like some violation and so there is pushed back. >> those that voted along with republicans in favor moving to the house floor does that have to do with their position on the iranian nuclear deal crack. >>? >> with those diplomatic measures the obama administration has taken with the government. and to come against the deal

like bob and mendez and this bill may be another manifestation. >> let's talk about the second bill sponsored by california at that the house will vote on my bill to stop cash payments to iran for any reason? >> this stems from a payment the administration made to the iranian government in january that was $1.7 billion that settles almost a 40 year-old lawsuit over a wet been stressed fund that iran used to buy weapons from the united states before the revolution. and as they were negotiating the release of prisoners.

with 1.7 billion dollar payment to every and. with those ever held by everyone. that is interpreted as state that house and senate as a ransom payment so those actions it is just a matter of several different diplomatic efforts of the decades in the making. >> >> and if there was the payment of ransom on the part of the administration will anything come out of that quick. >> there are several hearings but also the bill

introduced there were also men payments through uh treasury's designated fund. with the several layers of transparency often top of that with those american victims of terrorism with those legislative responses from lawmakers to treasury there is he to from congress or the perceived dangers of a cash payment so there has been a lot of criticism but those that are democrats in

dealing with iran. >> follow him odd twitter. teefour . .