tv Armageddon CSPAN October 8, 2016 4:48pm-5:47pm EDT
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>> good evening, everyone. i would like to just mention two things that i want to tell you before i start. i would like you all to shut your cell phones off if that's okay with you. i don't want to have it ringing in the middle of dick's presentation. i would also like in the q&a line up behind the mic in the center role and when called upon, you can ask your question, okay? thank you. just questions, yes. for over 20 years dick morris served as the clinton's personal and political adviser and trust ed confidentant, he knows strength and weaknesses and their darkest secrets.
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[laughter] >> and they have many. mr. morris is admired for his probing, insightful, hard-hitting and clear commentary on news max, fox news and other international media outlets. time magazine has dubbed him the most influential private citizen in america. very impressive. a well known political strategist was the architect of bill clinton's comeback landslide in 1998. oh, it said '98 here, sorry. winning campaigns of more than 30 u.s. senators and governors, internationally has had successful campaign of
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presidents and prime ministers of five continents. together -- [laughter] >> they didn't write that down for me. >> together with his wife aileen, he has written 15 books, including 10 new york times best sellers. quite impressive again. tonight is my very great pleasure to introduce to you a very impressive and highly respective man, mr. dick morris. [applause] >> thank you. this must be my fourth or fifth or sixth speech to you all. divide the calendar into four year segments and i show up each year.
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i'm the most popular migrant would recollecter in america. [laughter] >> this election is really about something very simple and easy to understand politically. both candidates have very high negatives. voters are dissatisfied with the choice. they have totally different concerns over each candidate. with donald trump they're annoyed at what he said and how he's acted and his temperament, his language, his fighting with people, his combativeness. with hillary, they're upset about what she has done, the fundraising, the secret emails, the benghazi and so on. the very simple fact is that it was a lot easier what he lacked
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than raise what you have done. there's no better way to change how you act than on a nationwide tv debate that'll be watched by 50 to 60 million people. he has to be not deplorable, not sexist, not racist, not unpredictable, not irrational, not dangerous, not psychopathic, not sociopathic, not islamophobic. there are probably a hundred million americans, i would like to think the majority of america could. as long as he does not enact all of hillary's accusation and the
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hundreds of millions of dollars on med icon vinceing people convincing people who donald trump is. but i don't think he's any of those things. i know him very well. he was fred trump's lawyer. this guy is none of those adjectives. what he is a doer and credibly creative guy of who finds a way to win, finds a way to get his way and that's not a bad thing,
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that's a good thing in a president. there's a very cute story back in illustrates a lot of this, there's a woman that i use that half of you may know who owned the most beautiful estate in virginia, absolutely beyond belief. it was an incredible estate and she lost it in bankruptcy and she called trump, donald, would you buy my house and donald said, what does the bank want for it, he said 20 million. i'm not going to pay that. well, if you can think of a way, i would love it. trump calls her back and said, i tell you what i will do, i will buy all the land around your house for x million dollars and by that i don't just mean your acreage, i mean when you open the front door and you put your foot down you're going on on trump territory.
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so she sold it to him and now what are you going to charge me for this. you can have the house as long as you have, you just can't enter it or exit it because you're going to step on my land. [laughter] >> and the bank relented and gave it to him at a very good price and that's now going to be the latest trump resort. it's right near jefferson on his land. extraordinary, but that's donald trump. he will figure a real way to make it work to win and he's not -- he's unconventional. he's unpredictable but not in a dangerous set when you work with him usually stuff turns out right and he gets done and if there's anything that obama is not, it's that. but getting back to the debate, all trump has to do is not be any of those long-list of things hillary says he is.
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and hillary's campaign has a very juvenile quality to it. it's like sticks and stones my break my bones but words will never hurt me. it's like a kid calling somebody else names and when they run out of that, they come up with a new name and then a new name. it's sort of a speech writer with a well thumbs thesaurus and when you see him in the debates and he's not those things, the whole rationale to hillary candidacy goes away because it's not that he's for this or against that or for this or against that, it's that how could you possibly even think of voting for this guy? oh, my god, he's beyond the pail. how could you even think of doing that? you should be ashame of yourself. if you vote for him you're deplorable. when you see that's not true it goes away. she has no rare line of defense. it's the brittal front line
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defense of donald trump is a so and so. once you get past that, she has nothing to run on. the point is that hillary cannot recover from what she's done as easily as trump has said. trump in an hour cannot say the things that he's accused of saying and come across as he is, fair-minded reasonable guy who would make a heck of a good president. but hillary cannot in the space of an hour or a year or ten years live down what she's done and that's the key to why i believe trump can and will defeat hillary, because it's easier to undue what you said and what you've acted if you've offended someone than what you've done in your past record. let me just discuss this not from the perspective of a political commentator but the
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perspective of the person who is once their chief adviser and was more 20 years. when you nobody for my, god, 60 years, no, 40 years, i'm not that old. 40. when you know somebody for 40 years, you notice that the stuff that you knew about them when they were 30 has changed, they're different people. they always had a big nose but not that big, you know. the crazy ears but not that crazy. you kind of notice the change in evolution over the period of time. when i think back on the clintons and the time i worked for them, it feels like a first marriage. [laughter] >> you know, what was i thinking. but seriously back then she was secretive and kept her privacy. she got annoyed when anyone pride into her affairs.
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and people sometimes say what was the quid pro quo. well, when you have a meeting with the president you don't need quid pro quo. a cute conversation was saying i want you to win and then get the nomnation and we will talk. after he got the nomination he said i am giving you another million. and he said what is that? do you want appointment? and he said, no just win the election. and after he won the election, he said send another million. after kennedy took office he said the cabinet and fill and good ambassadorships but i can work something out what can i do? he said meet me at the most
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fashionable restaurant in new york city on march 4th. he said i will bring you to the white house and he said no, i would like to to be at the restaurant. the guy got his entire family, all of this friends, all of this clients, all the business associates, his neighbors, friends from school, all together in the restaurant and at 7:00 kennedy walked in and walked over to him and he said not now, jack, i am busy. [laughter] >> access is really all you need. when you go into the a third world country and say last week when i was having lunch with the secretary of state she said and at that point you want to own the cable franchise or take over the telephone system or the banking systems or the transportation or whatever you
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want. write the ticket if you are that close to the secretary of state. the meeting is the message. the meeting itself, the entree is all you need. just to juice it up, there is a lot of concrete and real benefits that have flowed from that. when vladimer putin wanted to buy 20% of the iranian supply in the united states, we are not sub-saharan -- sufficient and he thought trying to rather than control the oil supply he would try to control the uranium supply. that had to be proved by the state department and the department people said you are crazy. putin went ahead and bought for a huge price a company that merged into ross adams. the russian atomic agency and by
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frank justra who controlled 20% of the uranium supply in the united states. he was canadian and allowed to do thachlt when it came up for review, gave the clinton initiative $136 million for climate change and to top it off, putin invited bill to moscow and paid him 1.1 million for two speeches and four months after that hillary signed of on the deal. this kind of thing goes on with her all the time. a lot of people saying every tall pi politician takes money and gives favors to those who give them money. but there is a wall in finance that separates political
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contributions from income and plenty of people have gone to jail for abusing campaign donations to buy dinner or suits. there are a dozen members of grosses congress who have done that. it is tempting. they live on very little and are handling 10 million in the headquarters and you cannot spend it on yourself. when the clinton's got campaign contributi contributions in the past it was for television and winning the election. when you get a speaking fee, that is personal money. when it knows to your foundation or global initiative that you control that is personal and you can use that any way you want. you can will it to your errs. it is part of your estate.
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when i knew them, they wanted money in order to get power. give me campaign contributions and i will use to get elected. they sold the lincoln bedroom, the white house, tours on air force one. they docked campaign money in return for it. i was one of the reason they did that because i made them change fundamentally how much money they would spend, way upped it, told them they had to go out and raise money and he would complain and bitch and moan but did it. that was political money and stuff people got was traiks. there was nothing bad about it. here we are torque -- we are
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talking about personal income. now they seek power to make money. lect me president so i can get higher bribes and add extra zeros to my husband's speak fee because that is the nature of the transaction bill and hillary clinton have forced upon the world. that is new. they were not materialistic when i was working for them. bill would be as happy eating mcdonald's as any place. when we were in the white house and we would meet every week and i had my team there and the president was there and we would order pizza. we were eating the pizza and bill's dying, his tongue is hanging out and he said i haven't had dinner and i cannot eat the pizza because i cannot eat anything that wasn't cooked in the white house kitchen so after that he banned it. nobody can eat in my presence.
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i mean that was bill clinton's cuisine back them. but my have they changed and evolved and from that stems a degree of secrecy and paranoia. we had a major reform when jay edgar hoover was forced out of the fbi and the church committee reined in the cia and the shadow government. they made the point that these operations are not above board and part of what the government should be doing. hoover ran the government by blackmail. he had a file on everybody and got johnson to keep him on the
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job because he shared all the files with johnson. the tech -- technique johnson used was getting ahold of hoover and finding this guy was gay or had a criminal conviction in the past and he would say it will be a shame for this to come out and don't you want to pas the civil rights bill? i believe if hillary is elected president this will ride again. i believe the woman who kept the file on all the republican opponents, who hired private detectives to investigate the woman her husband was accused of being involved with not for a divorce but to threaten them with stuff in their background to shut them up, i do not think that woman should control the
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fbi, cia, nsa, irs, and epa and everything else. [applause] >> i think we are just asking to combat the government with blackmail. i had a real insight over the last 10-15 years running campaigns in former communist countries. i had the good fortune of lecting the prime minister of hungry, romania and the president of ukraine. the way the former communists controlled people wasn't they will send out people and grab them to the goo log and stretch them. they would get material on them. i was with a communist leader talking about supporting a young kid running and he said get something on him because i cannot control him unless you
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get something on him. that was hillary's philosophy feeling with these women and that is when i began to break with hillary clinton because i saw how outrageous and dangerous it was. her sense of paranoia, secrecy and obsessive desire to conceal stuff used to be a fetish or odd cork in her character. now it is deliberate. she can not run this bribery are everything being public because if the quid and pro quos are layed out she cannot control it.
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precisely because she cannot afford to let them do this because of the material in them. hillary tie herself in knots. what i am saying is when i worked for the clinton's, i began to understand that every problem we had, every scandal we had, related back to hillary clinton. even the sex scandal did. for example, when he first took office as governor, there was a big reform in the nation's poultry chicken farming laws because chicken dung was getting ft. water supply and posing -- into the -- dangers. the biggest political company in the country was tyson foods.
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tyson food had a guy who worked for them who happened to be an expert at the futures martin. his name was jim blare and his wife was one of hillary clinton's friends. he said we would like to help you and she said that is wonderful. he invested it in the future market for her. he took 10-12 other people and invested their money in it and they made trades and in this you could allocate the wins and losses to the 10-12 people as you wanted. so he allocated all the wins to hillary. she had gotten $100,000 and then dropped out and she quit. the bribe was reached. and in return, bill waved the
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environmental enforcement of the chicken stuff in arkansas for ten years and they were permitted a level of pollution that was only ended by federal action after he became president. that was the original sin. nobody knew that because those trades are not publically disclosed. in 1981, our opponent in the governor's race released their tax return and i said you have release yours, too and bill said, sure and hillary said no, we won't. i said why not? she said we won't. and bill said maybe week release '78, '79 and '81 but not '80. i said that is silly what is in 1980? i never probed. ten year later the white water
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scandal was being investigated and they published an editorial saying we demand to know if the clinton's made a profit off the deal and the only way to know is getting hillary clinton's tax return from 1980 and 1981. hillary said nope, we are not releasing that. i said they are going to kill you with this. they will appoint a special prosecutor who will be on your neck and after you like a guard dog. just release the damn thing. you pay your taxes and even if you didn't your income wasn't large number and you were elected and have four years to live it down. a year later she released the tax return. why? because the ten year statute of
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limitations on insider trader had lapsed and had she released it earlier she would have been prosecuted and likely convicted so she wasn't going to release this until after the statute of limitations lapsed. now we get a special prosecutor would see all over the place investigating them, doing all kinds of stuff, see almost gets invited for fraudulent legal work she did. as a result of the special prosecutor, there is a huge investigation that turns out paula jones who said bill asked her to come from the hotel lobby to his room to have sex and she sued clinton for millions in damages and all that. then in the middle of the lawsuit she said i will settle the lawsuit, no money, no
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apology, no admission of guilt, all i want is bill to admit he sent a trooper to fetch me. i told hillary that is great. there is no sex necessarily. and hillary said we are not doing it. i said you are crazy. this will get you off the hook. and he said the american spectator, published an article saying bill used women to get state troopers and she didn't want to ratify that. she is so perfectist and conceals everything. we get a special prosecutor who asks about monica lewinski and bill lies. he has to plead guilty to perjury and leaves the white house in disappeal and selling the party he did including to
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drug dealers who are represented by hillary's brother is being made to get thel partisan which they did. then they are leaving the white house. what the hell do we do for a living now? bill just got disbarred. i have an idea? why doesn't bill go around and give special fe smooc-- speeche make money. who is going to give him money? the banks will. they want to repeal to glass ceiling act and bill switched and signed the bill at the end of '99 and the first speech he got out of the white house was morgan stanley for 125 and got speech after speech as payoff from the banks in return for signing that legislation. you can't have an e-mail trial
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that tells you about this. so if you can use e-mails, which you have to, you better keep it secret and that is how the secret e-mail server got born and they carried it over into the senate from the secretary of state office and she had to lie about and pay be defeated for election because of it. all of this goes back it the original sin of 1980 and that is hillary's mom. everything is tied in with everything else in this gigantic effort to conceal everything. if she goes to washington and she is in the white house she will do the same thing and the bribery scheme will be enormous and take over the government.
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let's talk a llittle about wha the election means in terms of issues. i said i believe if trump loses this election it will be the last election. by that i don't mean we will become a dictatorship but i do mean we will never win another election for 20-30 years because sthooez she is going to let 12 million immigrants in the united states vote and that is 8% of the electorate and encourage more to come, she will appoint supreme court judges who will ratify that and we will never win another election. because we will never win another election america will pass its permanent tipping point about which reagan warned us when the money we spend in well pair and entitlement exceeds the money we collect in taxes the tax eaters outvote the taxpayers and there is no reason not to
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raise taxes as in greece, detroit, stockton, and so many cities and countries we have seen this. the stats are fairly daunting. when obama took office we had 76 billi billion in federal care and now it is up 130 million. 137 million americans worked full time when obama took office and now it is down to 113 mi milli million. we will be in a downward spiral that leaves to where greece is or detroit is but there is no one to bail us out. we are at a juncture when it
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comes to the issue of crime and terrorist. who can look at was going on in france and belgium without feeling they have this huge indigenous muslim population that are generally law-abiding people but seeded with terrorists and there are neighborhoods police won't go into and the law applies and is enforced. the blackmail, cohercion and the ability to have terrorists woo rise up and destroy thousands of people in these countries is unabated. obama wants to let 110,000 new immigrants from muslim terror sponsoring countries into the u.s. next year. so over hillary's four-year term maybe up to a million come in.
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there is a survey i write about in my book, in "armageddon," which pew did and they asked american muslims is there every a reason why you might support violence against the opponents of islam and 85% said never but 15% said yeah, there might be circumstances, rarely, there could be. come on, if you are looking for 10% of 3 million people that is an incredibly large population to vet and it makes transparent sense to keep them out. the only reason the democrats want them in is they vote democrat. 85-90%. just like they want illegal immigration to continue they want refuges. but an illegal immigrants has to wait to be legalized,
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naturalized and then register to vote. a refuge can be registered like that because they come in essentially as legal immigrants all they have to do is become naturalized, pass the test, register to vote and take over. do you know this guy ralch elman who is the radical islam congressman from minnesota. he is a democrat and the only muslim member of congress and he is way over in support of the palestinian's. he is elected because that is an area where muslim immigrants settled in. if trump loses we will lose the ability to stop that. obamacare is a basket case and has been destroyed. cred credit marc rubio with that.
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he recognized the weakness in obamacare that the insurance companies have to insure high-risk people and charge them high premiums because the government required them to offer extensive coverage of everything. the more people refuse to buy it more the risk pool got bad and the cost rose. obama put a provision in the bill saying the insurance companies would be bailed out by the federal government and become public utilities and not permitted to lose money. rubio defunded that in the last budget bill and all the insurance companies are jumping ship. etna left, united health care left, refusing to do business under obamacare. when they leave that is the crucial link that makes
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obamacare possible. that leaves us with the stark choice of going back to the old system with modifications or have total government control medication in the united states. the obvious solution is eliminate the element of cohercion. that will permit premiums to go down because people will say i don't need drug addiction therapy, sex change operations, write my policy without that stuff included. it becomes affordable and works. then have a tax subsidy and credit and let children tay on their parent's policy until they are 26 and make them cover pre-existing conditions and stop them from dropping or raising premiums if you get sick. that is easy to do.
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but eliminate the element saying you have to buy a policy and it maz to be expensive as the one we tell you. hillary and obama wanted to socialized system from the beginning and settled for this as a copromise. obama's legacy is written right now in play. soft, maluable play. will iran not go nuclear? will obamacare work? will global warming be enough of a threat and his measures enough of an effect in countering it? we don't know the answers but we will in four five or six years. what hillary will do is make
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that clay harden to a point where we are stuck with this legacy. she is the ratifier and the one who will make it happen. before the clay gets hardened, we need to change those policies and make them consistent with a country based on upward mobility and individual opportunity and all stuff obama would ride rough shot over. those the are stakes in the election. i lean my co-author and wife couldn't be here because she has a knee problem but sends her love and regards. hi.
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>> first, i want to say that is my friend's home in virginia. >> isn't it cool what trump did? >> very cool. i have two questions. i saw a documentary about the early days of the clinton at a time when clinton was trying to raise money for running for governor. i heard he was dealing in cocaine. that it was put in planes -- is there any truth to that? >> planes flying out of mesa, arkansas contracted with the cia. and i never knew about that. i don't like to speck lailatspe.
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>> i know trump is doing better in the polls and i am excited about that -- >> she is anxiety about trump doing well in the polls. >> yes, i am very excited. >> trump doing well. hear that? >> yes. i am on the trump train, yes. but i am very concerned about voting because i have been told that the voting booths, many of them, have been bought by sarros, a couple years back, and these already have been contaminated in a way that can rig the election. i want to know what do you think about that? >> i haven't heard that. you know, we will see. the potential for fraud in american elections is significant. the key to preventing it is photo id.
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in north carolina they did a study of everybody who voted in north carolina in the 2012 election and then they searched the voting records of 26 other republican states that let them do and they found 75,000 people who had the same first name, middle name, and same last name and same date of birth as 75,000 people who voted in north carolina also voted in another state. so, dick morris, born november 28th, 1947 voted in raleigh, north carolina and in del ray beach, florida. they found 75,000 of those. the only reason they looked in north carolina was it was the place that let them do it. so it is so easy with such a large number of illegal immigrants lying around to dig somebody up who says he is me and goes in and there is no photo id. it is in explicit to me that we
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could ban photo id's. >> thank you. >> hi. >> thank you so much for an amazing talk. you sensitize all of us to the dangers we are facing. her poll numbers are going down, her health is precarious and the moral -- it seems like it has heightened. so that being the case, what is your opinion on the following? do you think the election currently is between trump and obama? in other records, a referendum
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on hillary. >> no. the erosion, and viability you describe is accurate, certainly, and going to get worse. i personally believe, i have no proof, that the kremlin has all of her deleted e-mails and those will be released in october. i think that is why obama and hillary have gone to great lengths to warn putin to state out of the election and if he intervenes they can say he is trying to elect trump and he is a horrible dictator. i think understand why putin doing that in. in 1996, bill clinton approached
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me and said we have to get yell reelected because there is a kbk guy running and we worked hard to elect borris giving hundreds of millions from the saudi's to payback wages in russia and all stuff that was documented in a movie in russian call spinning borris. i think putin wants payback. i think he recents -- resents that and is trying to intervene. in terms of hillary's health i have no idea but i believe it is crucial he make her take an mri and release the results. the consequences of parkinson's
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which many believe she has has dementia and that is crippling for a president. it is important we know that. i think we are going to have to watch this carefully and comment on it and pounce when there are episodes of things that indicate that is required and necessary. in terms of hillary's downward spiral, i think we have realize there is more than enough to realize there is a need. the more trump comes across he is a reasonable option and reasonable policies i believe people will come over and detroit trump. there is no good reason to not vote for trump except fear pandering. he has been opposed to war much more than hillary and hillary i think would be more likely to feel she had to prove herself by
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going to war. i feel that there is no rational reason on that. yeah, she will make the senate pro-life -- he will. i think the concept he is beyond the pail has no bases in fact. i think if trump can debunk that by his performance i don't think she has a second act. >> thank you so much for being here. firstly, there are two questions. one, if we are able to see if the clinton foundation tax returns, do you feel that would reveal quite a bit of their misdeeds? and secondly what do you feel are the three top, let's say evils, or misdeeds you feel trump should really hit her with
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during the debates? >> first question is about getting the tax returns from the clinton foundation and would that expose a lot of what they are done. sure, it would. but we know a lot anyway because foundations are required to make a fairly explicit disclosure of their spending and fundraising. we know that the clinton foundation gave out only 7% of its money in grants which is the lowest of any foundation in the world by far. they have an answer to that. they say that is not our style. our style isn't to give people money but send in our people to do good things for them. a little more of a peace core model. how convenient. but still you are talking about a disparity between the amount they raised and the amount they have spend on anything that could vaguely be called
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charitable. they have about 110 million a year in travel expenses. that may include paying sarah jones to fly to help to iiin ininnoc -- innocilate. your other question, the major ways to challenge her, the first thing i would do is that i would ask her to take a position opposing obama's statement this week that he wants to admit 110,000 additional refuges from muslim-terror sponsor countries. terrorism wants to make it clear he doesn't want a religious
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test. he originally proposed that but believes it is more consistent with the constitution to have a test based on geographic areas. if you live in a area controlled by terrorist you cannot come into the united states which is basically iraq, syria, and afghanistan, parts of pakistan and sudan and yemen. i think he needs to challenge her on that and talk about the impact of letting those folks in. secondly, i hope he goes after bill for deregulating the banks in 1990 and 2000 and accepting tens of millions in fees from them. i talk about the need for the right jab and also the left look to come around and get the
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bernie sanders' voters and by drawing the connection between hillary clinton and the banking industry i think you can appeal to those voters in an important way. and the final thing is he should challenge her to say the clinton foundation will close its doors, it will not exist as an agency that accepts contributions from people who want access to the president. she will refuse to do that because what is the point in getting elected if he can't steal. >> thank you so much. >> i have a question about our president. here we have the first black molatto really. his mother was white. the opportunity he had to do i
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thought to myself was overwhelming to go to chicago, never went to chicago and told the children to stop shooting each other. i am a former new york city school teacher. i thought with this man being our president would do something for his people. he did nothing! nothing! if he wept to chicago where he came from and said look what i became, you can become what i became and that is the travesty
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of this president. >> remember when bill clinton went to a black church in mechanismsis on the day of martin luther king's birthday and said he didn't live or die so a 13-year-old black boy could kill an 8-year-old black boy which just happened that weekend. i think that is such a tragic waste of an opportunity. instead, he made us more race conscious than we have ever been. what he wanted was political force and use things to change the country. you are right. >> here, what an opportunity that this man had to raise up these youngsters and tell them and now we have in charlotte, what is going on in charlotte? the most outrageous thing in the world and they are still going on tonight.
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they are still killing each other. they have made -- i want to say people couldn't go to work today. i think the police chief is making a terrible mistake in not releasing the video because it shows he had a book or a gun and it is important to clarify that. we suffered for months in ferguson before the video made it clear that the officer should have acted as he acted. when he saw the video of tulsa, oklahoma, donald trump was the first to say he felt the police officer acted wrongly. i think i just wish they would release the tape so we can get the facts. >> why don't they bring in the national guard? they did today? >> you know who controls the national guard don't anyhow? well, thank you, lovely.
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>> i have a question for dick morris. it is a bought -- bottle line question and i hope he can answer. do you think donald trump can win this election? >> sure, i can. i am not prepared to make a prediction like i did with romney but i absolutely think he can win. the race is tied and it is tied because he came up about ten points. so many polls, the one i would watch if i were you is by ras man because he is the only one who is a political pollster as opposed to a pollster who does research.
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>> we have a great photographer, and if you want to take some of your own with your own camera, that's perfectly all right, okay? thank you very much. [applause] >> we continue our programs on the presidential candidates with a round table discussion featuring marc fisher and michael kranish on their book, "trump revealed." [inaudible conversations]
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