but we have tried something similar. they started negotiating the number of spaces and it hasn't produced anything. why it's so fragile, people are similar. it forms the mentality.

can i mention at the highest .4 or five years ago the trade was $39 billion. it was less than 1% of the american trade. there are many others that are significantly more important. the context between people but is surprising but at the end of the cold war we have the changes between the congress and russian

parliament and sometimes it was organized to teach democracy and fight back. people are complaining that in the past they were visiting with each other. they knew each other. there were so many exchanges even the supreme court. now the executives. what is left as a result of it is political dialogue.

after the cold war [inaudible] so the reset wasn't quite what you would have expected? >> the commission that i was referring to several times doesn't necessarily translate but nevertheless i saw a number

where we were a undercurrent of programs with smart greed, something that i've never heard about in the past. long, long ago we were working on the regional levels and there were exchanges between those that were reinforcing. i saw a hand way at the back.

>> your version of why russia left the treaty and i just thought that it would be good to remind the audience that timing will sometime in the spring or 2008 before russia was in truth a territory of the country in georgia so i think it is looking at the timeline and what followed after words what one thinks about the motives of why russia did so.

>> one treaty that had never been allowed to be amended because the amendment have been thin and force in terms of membership into the other issue they are not necessarily correlated. what happened was a georgian president who is now on the wanted list by the georgian government hiding in ukraine launching an attack about the citizens with multiple launch

rockets. look at the history honestly. i think we will take one from the lady and a blue blazer. >> thank you for your presentation and for hosting us and enabling this opportunity. i am an alum and obviously u.s. russia relations are tense. ukraine is an independent country with its own culture, language, history, national identity, worldview and the

reason there is tension over ukraine is that russia doesn't want to recognize ukraine as a separate culture, people and sovereign state even though moscow didn't even exist so the goal is prohibiting its course before demonstrated. >> is there a question [inaudible] my question is 10,000 people have been killed in this senseless war including your russian soldiers and acquaintances of mine that have left their cities to defend their homeland.

my question is when will russia pull its troops out of ukraine and my second question is in the beginning -- >> i think we need to stop their otherwise -- >> my second question is at the beginning is that we do not interfere in the international affairs of the u.s. and that's important for people to understand. last week obama confirmed that the kremlin was behind this and other institutions of people. some people are suggesting we have the intelligence to lay some confusion around the election next month so can i have your reaction to mr. obama's claim? >> we consider ukraine to be a sovereign state, great nation.

we are so intertwined with so many families in ukraine that are russia and to so many in russia that our ukraine. my mother was born in ukraine and i spent some time in my childhood going to school not far from and i understand pretty well with ukraine is and we do respect ukraine as a country. we want to see them stop bombing people and see ukraine as a home and not something that is because they speak russian.

when it comes to the statement about the intelligence, i told you and i repeated it is not correct. when it comes to the implication that is something i am not planning to discuss. we have seen statements that were not proven by history. i can give you examples. the security council about the biological weapons in iraq. it was based on the intelligence

after the exploration. >> thank you. we hope this is a process that will continue and he will come back. thank you. [applause] [inaudible conversations]

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pennsylvania republican mike fitzpatrick is retiring from the house of representatives and his brother is running for his eighth district seat. thursday he debates representatives. live coverag coverage:15 p.m. en c-span. donald trump is reeling from criticism by his own party's leadership. he said it's so nice the shackles have been taken off and i can now fight for america the way i want to. >> he appears to be any total meltdown. the shackles are off and now i

can really do what i want. i don't think that i'm that outspoken. he threatened to jail his opponent. that is a new low. >> in a tirade he'd torn into house speaker paul ryan. >> you attacked mccain today as well. >> he's neve never heard saul c. language before. he has probably the dirtiest mouth and all of the senate. i don't know what good it does to trash people. >> donald trump is now out of the throws and even a way we haven't seen. this is a nuclear bomb and we are watching it. >> i can compare my iq with

anybody. we are going to move on. allow her to respond. what do you think if it falls? >> it is a disaster. >> what do you think will happen if it falls? there are sometimes reasons the military does that. psychological warfare. >> we have to move on. >> let alone after getting a subpoena from the united states. >> we have to move on to an audience question.

>> everything is broken about it, everything. >> it hasn't been finished at all. the briefing is a:30 and a 90 minutthe 90minute debate is at y with us following the debate for reaction and watched live on demand watching your desktop, phone or tablet on c-span.org.

pbs frontline put together a new documentary taking a look at isis confronting the name of the documentary. thanks for your time. >> good to be here. what was the goal putting together the documentary and what are you looking for? >> the goal was to produce a one-hour program on the u.s. bur efforts to defeat isis. i produced a program that aired in 2014 not long after the circus came onto everybody's radar. this was to be a follow-up program on all of that. i was interested in the regional coalition that was tilted as

evidence everyone was pulling with us in this fight so we went off to the middle east and visited saudi arabia, turkey, and it was clear this was a bigger project than i had originally envisioned in each of the cases where you dig into what those are you find none ofg them share defeating isis as the number one property. they don't share that priority with us. they have other concerns, so that became the focus of the documentary going through these talking to officials and otherst to get out what was their perspective on this because any time you have one of theseention

coalitions, you have to pay attention to just what, how much are they going to contribute and are they on board with us so it became a two-hour program that unraveled a lot of the complexity and anyone that thinks that defeating isis is a simple proposition needs to take another look at the problem. >> host: if you want to call to ask questions about the findings on the fight against isis t two super 27,488,004 republicans, 7,248,000 for democrats from 8002 for independence. we are going to show a portion of the documentary that pertains to the statement you made about where the goals are and just look at saudi arabia and a portion looking at the balance

between the u.s. and saudi arabia interest. we will show this now and then get your thought. >> next i went to speak to the prince turki al faisal. he says he has roots here but it is an aberration. they say where do they come fr from. the rest of the body is healthy, so it does some of the actions that can be pointed to being similar to what we do but they judicial system, sharia law and we will not give that up for anything. the trouble is the kind of a justice practiced can appearrom indistinguishable as practiced.

saudi arabia is on the left and isis on the right. >> if you wouldn't mind putting a bottle context to what we just heard. >> they have a long relationsh relationship. we know about the dependence fos many decades. there's also been a lot of arms sales so the relationship has been very tight. on the other hand, saudi arabia is the birthplace of strict interpretation of islam and it is the branch from which it springs so you find in saudi arabia and other gulf states where the practices are entrenched in both society.

it's not to say although now we are seeing documents that indicate support it's always been well known in the established the groups whether it was al qaeda that what we were exploring in thi that segmt is the commonality between isis and saudi arabia. not all princes would subscribe. iinfect isis attacked saudi is e

arabia but it is the place from which it springs ideologically. >> host: if all these regional h partners had different interests and fighting isis or at least different goals what does that mean overall? .. heir primary worry, their existential fear, is the encroachment of iran through various proxy forces, whether has a lot lebanon, assad in syria, shia militias in iraq, or the effort to support tutee rebels in yemen. aboutarabia is concerned the advances being made in the region by iran. they were very upset about the nuclear deal negotiated by the

obama administration, and this became the number one concern. isis is something they care about, but it is not their primary concern. therefore, that makes it difficult when the u.s. comes to saudi arabia and asks, you need to crack down on your teachers spreadingers who are a beer lent form of islam that bomb hobbies, jews, christians, non-wahhabi muslims, are infidels .> >> the first call comes fromon e oregon on