obama administration, and this became the number one concern. isis is something they care about, but it is not their primary concern. therefore, that makes it difficult when the u.s. comes to saudi arabia and asks, you need to crack down on your teachers spreadingers who are a beer lent form of islam that bomb hobbies, jews, christians, non-wahhabi muslims, are infidels .> >> the first call comes fromon e oregon on the independent

line go-ahead. >> caller: been good morning thanks for taking the call. i was watching the "frontline" show last nightrettl and it made a pretty clear to me what is going on over there that their sex is more a important them their own country and it is crazy for us to get involved but now russia is involved so we will have to be that could be bigger than world war tarot someone to tell from line held did the show was ifo always look forward to the show one. >> you are right there are so many fault lines running through those countries andia

getting involved in that region is difficult for us because they don't conform with the actual groupings k the arabs to make claims to power and unfortunately if vice this poses a threat toun the united states then we can talk about how big that threat is. the united states needs to be involved. but we all penne pandora's box and data that was iraq, outside at anti-iraq one so

we are involved like it or not. >> brian from massachusetts republican line. >> i did watch your show last night and i was wondering the video of the jordanian pilots.estions so how are you betting that to make scheerer it is true? of those very disturbing images of the children and then finally the pilot that was interviewed extensively. >> you raise an interesting

question that we label them as isis videos. they're all propaganda videos the fact that the pilot has never returned. i have witnessed that tape. beat blurred that to save them at home that the man was burning to death. casinos specially fax one dash i see no special effects.unde one you can triangulate from other sources to look at

what else some at that time emplace that i.c.e. is might be representing a new can verify what bc if that isn't what they wanted or the cted. and talk about the making of v the videos so you get the sense of what is real and what is not. >> caller: thanks for taking my call. mining concern run especially the trump supporters i am from the d.c. area and they think there are thousands were of people and that is

incredibly escalating and that is the real threat. and i am wondering what of that way that we try topr address that problem. >> bed is an something thatt we got into with this broadcast of the cyberwarfare. i noted in the station has stepped up their efforts in that regard but i cannot comment directly because that was not our primary focus so i did not dig into that. is a fear as isis gets out of the stronghold that the

fighters that would flock in 2014 would be leaving.g. there is no doubt that isiss is is feeling of pressure and the output of propaganda l because obviously when you drop 15,000 bombs on the itt will have an effect in special forces are used. cc some of these people returned to their home countries and there were warnings made by the government officials or not so much for those that take inspiration. knowing

so with at that output of physis with the propaganda video and by any means it is not over the weekend twist in the near future but how that plays out but is a big open question. >> one eyed what are these particularly question mark i'm sorry. >> those troops that are going to be involved? one we don't know exactly. right now and to soften the

target so is a large city a with the population that at least initially a lot of people in in those zero were sympathetic and sworn enemies of the government probably after two years off occupation they were looking for to some liberation but the problem on the ground in mosul or iraq and then with that local population and with the republican candidates won with the

killing of civilians who were not only collaborators but trying to keep theirir head down tuesday life. there is a multi pronged attack. or one for the next weeks or months. one to see how isis' reacts and to get a sense of what they need to do next. -- they were probably streaming down as of battle years. >> >> and i her day muslimted

breaking the laws of the united states. >> good morning. keep going. >> we will put you on hold. >> i heard what she said. >> i know nothing about that. but this sounds unlikely.untry, one there have been muslims in this country for a couple hundred years. favor american citizens like anybody else. but i have never heard of that. >> i am proud i have been

here since 1981. >> but with the islamic and spices but the most saudi rea one -- arabia. [inaudible] they should take part. for the united states of america. they're supposed to be our refugee pace and not only

the united states or europe. [inaudible] >> is hard to know exactly everything saudi arabia is areas not contributing this was my fourth door fifth trip there as a reporter i found this trip difficult in the fact that finding officials to talk with our those that would talk sincerely openly and honestly was more difficult and we tried hour best to find voices that we could trust.yo

they are closed about their participation even with airstrikes asking for a zero i list of the air strikes and they did not give it to us as far as them making a loty of money it is true salieri is not a pork country they did apollo as recently is a question that i went in there with findings with a schizophrenic society people that try to nudge the country at least then the saudi frame that we try to

move the country away from the embrace of the strict interpretation of islam some would call the evil but some, that are extremely conservative to support the idea of prices and see that as the shock for in the encroachments of iran. so i the miss sympathetic with them how much they can move their society.on this it is founded on the idea with this sort of an interpretation that is long will survive. id is the challenge for the saudis themselves. >> we will show the audience of more of your documentary.

explain what you we're doing and set that up for us. >> there were several trips but i thank you talk about when i go up to the bunker? >> >> imbalance we were number iraq controlled by the pest were dead and the kurdish fighters. and we came upon the village of two, to overlook the the town which was eventually was retaken with the help of u.s. air support and now is

a major base of operation for the campaign.ill but they were still below occurred there the mortars fell while i was there. and that is the scene is about to run. >> pbs frontline martin smith here is part of that documentary. >> they were among the first targets isis hit 2014. >> they are undecided of theiv river. >> there was chatter on the radio. since my visit the iraqi security forces attacked and

the pest margaret are now awaiting orders to proceed 40 miles to the north. eight promises to be a hard fight speaking speaking native tongue. >> had a day speech usa's journalists?e i have a lot of time on the amend and iraq starting

2003 during the american invasion. and i have my own rolodex of contacts of was taken there and to have great connections inside so that was a matter of a small team of cameramen and my producer working the hardest - - working the phone lines pretty hard and the trip was organized through one on the ground we were fortunate to spend the day with the pest margot. >> democratic line go west head. >> caller: edges called to

say a appreciate your report it is incredible i have polled their appreciation of all of the policies as barack obama has best pursued it because it is a hard issue. but thompson notion he will bomb the hell lot of them but to use the term radical islam or how the right wing frames the issue?ss >>e a >> it is interesting erase some points i don'tnt understand what donald trump's position is on this be but have a secret plan ended could not and unveil what that is because that would signal to people what we're

doing and then they could prepare. some he has said it is so easy to take them down.ime anybody to spend anytime looking at this recognizes it isn't just a group sitting in the desert somewhere that you just have to bomb them then they will be gone and it will be over by all of these problems in the middle east involving places are interconnected so i cannot speak at this point. what was the half of the question? >> there seems to be obsession with the radical islam.

what your thoughts? a >> that is an something i have now given a lot of thought to. then need of uh oh labeling the administration is serious about going after isis' although they are cautious and promises not to combat again in the middle east and does not want to see men and women dying. en nothing is in this situation so what you call the m it is beside the pointmy and that is my personal opinion.really i have not gotten bogged down in that.

there are these guys that are jihadist and i don't see any benefit to label the of one thing or another. but what we have ado to move forward. >> charlie from new jersey on you are a lot with the host of pbs's frontline. >> caller: thanks for taking my call. i would like to congratulate him on the documentary but it is just too bad somethingan like that cannot be seen by the majority of the public to give a better idea.uff, but i followed this but so many people who have no idea what

is going on and the complications. and now we see the turks are fighting the kurds is so convoluted in my opinion that they shed concentrate it's to every facet of the middle east like trying to do 100 things that once. >> the simple questions like abortion. a compromise a thousand pieces in the air at the same time than people, long

been a beacon to a with a quick snap of the finger it is ridiculous. >> is enormously complex as a leading star is to unravel the president is trying to do you are suggesting which is to focus on isis. that makes a difficult as you cross into their sanctuaries in syria and then day are taking advantage of the disorder of the five year-old civil war.s, as long as at rages that you cannot defeat isis in syria or they're capital. of dash from the president of syria. to get some type of settlement. tri working very hard that they

have not gone well at allme kin every attempt to get into a cease-fire has failed. i don't have an answer to how you solve the syrian mass. som people are trying hard there is even some thinking in the administration to make the no-fly zone now the russians are involved now that the russians are flying in that airspace. that is the big decision. so yes to focus on the i.c.e. this is what the administration has been coying to do.

when it is connected to so many issues especially inn syria this is the question that we ask.ne that in and i am not necessarily one that has all the answers hot >> had described the white house and the pentagon? are they on the same page? >> anytime you have an issue like this there will be a lot of contention.hat's th but if they said that is how policy gets made. but by and large they are on the same page with thee secretary of defense that

ended with them partying ways and we show that in the documentary you can see that pretty clearly they thought that we were not dealing with deicide issue in trying to focus too narrowly that is the opinion of the turks in saudi arabia and most people that i talked to in the region. bu but i think talking with secretary carter this point that they are on the same page. you raise another point how they make simple suggestions to take them out to be so easy. it is hard for me to see that complex issue like this one but in the campaign season is reduced to the sound bites to solve the

problems with the simplele sound bite is the uncertainty and it is a disservice. it leads us all to think somebody can score points against their opponent with a simple statement. . .

and you write about it wasn't a good idea but the last two yearr of mr. bush there was nobody getting killed over there. we needed to stay there.t go inf they didn't go in for one, two,, three months. we should have hit everyry a mon

military complex for a month straight. keep in mind that they wanted us out. aislcriticism that is made is that we didn't try hard to renegotiate, persuade the iraqis did. there'there was a general consen congress and the public. they've seen too many american servicemen and women.

this left in the hands of the isis to regroup. love, there's been a lot of criticism not striking at that time. whether we should have done what we claimed we are going to do

the united states lost a lot ofe credibility. i did film before this one that examined the red wine question. i will leave you to watch that and if you're interested, you, raise a couple of good points. >> host: do you plan to visitea this in the near future? >> guest: i guess i'm crazy enough to do that. i'm going to be working on a program that will examine the

type sunni and shia.ba i will be going back to the region in january or february. taking a look at isis in various parts of the middle east thank you for your time.

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secretary on his top priorities for the navy and marine corps he spoke at the national press club on issues including shipbuilding and purse on a retention. this is just over an hour. [inaudible conversations] welcome to the national press club. at the washington correspondent for the tribune and the 109th president of the press club where guests today.

i would like to welcome the public radio and you can follow the action on twitter. i ask you to stand briefly and hold your applause until i finish the entire table. publisher of stars and stripes. managing editor of defense daily. editor and defense. naval warfare reporter at defense news, former naval officer and publisher of the washington examiner, ted, chief of staff to the secretary of the navy, former chair of the kennedy and washington correspondent and the honorable john warner.

as a membe member but organized today's events, thank you. the correspondent for "the new york times." thank you all. [applause] also a quick thank you to. thank you gentlemen. our guest today is the 75th secretary of the navy. with an annual budget almost 900,000 people under the leadership with the dependence

on fossil fuels and strengthened partnerships with industry and assured the counterparts forced to detour the adversaries and increase the navy fleet. visiting over 150 countries and territories in all 50 states meeting with sailors and marines around the world and maintaining and whipping international relationships. the navy changed the policy to make it more merit-based. they changed the way they use energy setting the goal of relying on the sources for 50% of the energy by 2020. president obama added by charging preparation of the recovery plan for the gulf of mexico following the deepwater horizon oil spill.

they served as the governor from 1988 to 1992. bill clinton named him the ambassador to. please have a national press club welcome to made. [applause] >> thank you so much and to the national press club. three of my predecessors.

br three of the finest public servants do a very. and i'm talking about the person now. i don't know if anyone in the club has noticed that there is an election going on and that it will bring a new administration. now is to take the time and measure what we have accomplished. institutions that are founded on

legacy and also on change and adaptability. to quote one of the operations that navy has the tradition and future and we look with pride and confidence in both directions so that's what i'm going to do today is give you the state of the navy to ensure that the future of the navy and marine corps will be as bright as it passed. dependent the might of the cha

chain, [inaudible] did we have been tested. when i came into office we had a shrinking fleet in a very bad economy. we had our hands tied and it continues to hang around to make our planning very difficult in front of operations on training and costing lives. bad laws and the antiquated system limited the ability to maintain america's most talent talented. all of this happened during rising threats and the ever increasinever-increasing demande

naval forces. yet i am confident it will find we not only board this train but then we set the course for many additional strong links on the chain. in every place you've got one of these. a small selection of the achievements we've made across a large priority and there's going to be a test later. they are all important and meaningful but today i'm going to concentrate on three of them, shipbuilding, energy, people. there's there is a saying that f

success is just showing up and now that i've shown up longer than any secretary since world war i i guess i could claim some success just based on math, but that shouldn't be the standard. it's not the standard. it is and has to be way higher. we've never just shown up from when they defeated the british to when they planted the flag in 1945. it relied on the carrier-based naval obligation as its only

option. they've provided presidents around the globe and around-the-clock. to take this one step further, we don't just show up. we are already there. that unrivaled advantage. it gives the nation a lot of options in terms of a crisis. i call it the navy and marine corps and the away team because in times of peace and war they were not just in the right place at the right time, they are in the right place all the time.

in every case from high combat to the humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, and naval assets get there faster. we stay on the station longer because we are operating in the sovereign territory we don't have to ask permission to get the job done. to have this, we have to have pulled. to add that in ignorance of the purpose, we are the navy.

we need enough to do every job that we are given so i made it one of our top priorities and dramatically reduced the decline in the size. seven years later in 200 are down to 278 ships. during that time the this time 1 under contract not enough to keep them from continuing to shrink and not enough to keep them going. i've been there a little over seven years now so it is absolute comparison. in the seven years since i've been there we put 80 ships under contract. we've done so that the sam at te that we've increased aircraft purchases and we've done it all with a smaller topline.

our efforts are supported by congress guaranteed when the ship is under contract is under contract or under construction today and will get to 300 by 2019 and our current need of 308 by 2021. it takes a long time to build a fleet and reverse the consequences of a shrinking fleet. but by implementing basic business practices we've increased the numbers with every type of schiff divvied co- ship. the cost is decreased by nearly half in contrast to those

contracted prior and while the costs have come down we are upgrading the design to significantly increase the survivability and because of the capabilities and contributing to the strike group observations we are designating. 62 are operating in the fleet ad today we are in the fourth year thanks to competition a and to e hard work and talent, the multiyear contract is saving more than $2 billion over.

same thing with submarines. in april, 2014 wil 2014 we weree biggest bovard $18 billion for. this is doing math in public, as that we paid for nine and cost

ten. for thfriday office on the navyf it is designed specifically to coordinate. and as these platforms joined the fleet, we are equipping them all with the most advanced technologies, things like laser weapons and. we protected research and public but. i don't ever want to send marines and sailors. the efforts to rebuild the fleet benefited more than just the core. two mobile alabama. american workers build, maintain

and repair our platforms. tens of thousands of skilled employees are employed by the public shipyards at 400,000 jobs are tied. 41 million jobs are tied to international trade. for every job created almost three. since 2009 we've created 8,000 new jobs in the shipyards. these are american manufacturing jobs with an average. the overall impact of the ship

building and trade in maritime is so great that the industry produced more than 25 billion. more than 37 billion in gdp in 2015. when the platforms get to the fleet, they protect the sea lions, and through these, 90% of the world's trade. fact is to focus on ship holding has produced tangible benefits for the marines.

its advanced both our own economy as the global economy and contributed international security in a way that benefits every american. but increasing the size is only part of the equation. the way we do that with its about the energy we use. when i came in in 2009 and 2009t reached $140 a barrel, and we were having to make choices between operational. we were losing a marine killed or wounded for every 50,000 broadband to afghanistan, which

is way too high a price to pay. on the supply restrictions to get the prices back up, and while the final outcomes of those negotiations in the short term remains unknown, for the first time, russia has shown a willingness to cooperate. you only have to look at what happened in crimea war with russia did the ukraine. that's why i took action to reestablish the department of the navy as a world leader in energy and energy innovation.

and the reason was. the navy and marine corps have always been on the edge. we lived in the transition and from coal to oil, from. we had to lea leave in the transition to the alternatives that we are to have. as i said, first and foremost we did this to be better for fighters. but we can't ignore the effects of climate change. as new.

we also have two lead in a response to climate change. so, in 2009, the most significant is that by 2020, at least half of all energy would come from the non- fossil fuel sources. president obama reiterated that in his 2012 state of the union saying that the navy would get 50% or one gigawatt of our energy from the non- fossil fuel sources by 2020. ..

>> >> and other industries are following suit with the rim of the pacific nine

different countries took biofuels for refueling from one of our ships. and in june in the mediterranean on the u.s. destroyer to take italian by a fuel over to the u.s. destroyer of the hitters side of the world there taking bile fuels at the same time. the ngo strategic example that i use is singapore. there is an oil refinery and write down the road is a of biofuel refinery i do not want to be dependent on china.

and the western pacific and want to have that option and the civilian side jet blew just announced a contract for biofuels alaska air. virgin air. ups. fedex. all flying part of the time of bilinguals. there were those who criticized those that in 2012 with the first demonstration and is part of her regular fuel purchase and a price that is

absolutely competitive. when you first think of marines to don't think of the environmentalist. they have led the way with alternative energy. as they walk or march. and an asset transfers into energy. and in parallel to the alternatives the change of energy consumption the recommendation of the navy chief to retrofit with a 080

delights as they come through. per year per destroyer and we have also invested in technology is like hybrid electric drives. and to not only increase the time on the station 34 days longer. but to bring home almost half from what she came back. and with those combined efforts efficiencies have produced what was unimaginable results.

by switching we have saved $9 million. $60 million of energy upbraids 22 million tons have ben evaded. with our work at sea our initiative as a whole has contributed to reduction of oil use and 60 percent of the of marines. the that is clearly not the only reason. but what this as impressive as statistics they're not what matters. to influence the ability.

these efforts of our seal teams in terms of both the energy and the alternative energy in the field. to make the marines more agile. and then to save 700 pounds of batteries. and then the bases are more resilient. these are the real impact. of that strategic and vantage and operational flexibility.

with the right type of ships in the means to get them ready did. with those complex problems. and it is critically important one of the great privileges. to be secretary of the navy is to dave felt fine dash navy is to name all the ships. to be in the marine corps 241 years that is why naming the medal of honor recipients the individuals

and to sacrifice for american values. is equally important. but then to set out to find a more part - - day more perfect union. that challenges us to establish the declaration of independence and the constitution. that is the importance of the long standing naval tradition but also of eight ships and human-rights. like its jobless.

lucy stone. sojourn truth. americans why not?

or in the navy seals. or the marines there were not expected in combat roles . why not? on the campus of harvard for columbia or you look princeton or rotc for decades. white? one not? bring back. as is always the case there wasn't a good answer. so to repeal don't ask don't tell and led the implementation and the navy and marine corps.

end of the squadron's to call for the increase of female midshipman. and of those specialties of which have happened this past, jr.. and at the same time with the wreckers and arizona state. and pre-down to this diversity for diversity's sake it is dangerous for our

military force to become too predictable. more predictable force is a more definitive belfort's. and and from the time they were desegregated come up through crown to but then we become stronger. when there is too big of a cap democracy. from those of our pursues jump diversity and thinking is diversity icahn tate that they're both representative of the nation.

as we have opened opportunities for everyone to serve, and now case our free e lowering standards. that is acceptable to me or to the law or every visitor in the military because not only would that endanger marines also the security of our nation. there is no good and i give it to lower standards fell son of - - no one has set the standards but if a person qualifies but they cannot share in the honor of defensive ends short of this country because the color of

their skin is a plan on who they love. we could not and we should not and have always judge. >> i have been to afghanistan 12 times better becoming an art out to an vice spoke to ahead wan but he said and everyone that was involved for repeating

that he did just finished his third combat tour and three jurors said his biggest fear was said he would be found out as gay and made to leave the service said he and the ins. but also to dance the force. we implemented the most sweeping reform about seven years ago but it was very

high and also unpredictable. so be it were he a he steps but to have dave maurer who who live the in in hand. but which shin why henderson's pdf a have intrusive but the bad act to

and could but they were given bad paperwork soleil cannot get help. >> i use still couldn't and through this system is the reluctant but to make this

more in line with the jobs that we do with a healthier lifestyle and by better nutrition. and part of taking care sailors and marines is to make it easier for them to take care of themselves and their families and make triply as a lot more flexible. one example which we just dramatically expanded you can take up to three years off. one you can take that offer anything to look after loved one, have a family, get a degree that you want that we may not be willing to pay for but when they return their not penalized but rather compete with those that are similarly situated.

child-care hours two hours on each end within six weeks or 18 weeks for one of the things we're trying to do but we will not have rethinking done by cow words. so we are expanding educational opportunities and training opportunities and to tap into that innovative culture we also established a task force innovation they are coming up and death being voted by

but if they don't use the '05% that goes back into the pool. so my time in this job is coming to an end. pet amount of the great lakes is to see if people, do the work, made it changes and one but to take

the necessary steps to ensure the navy had never but we represent the greatest people america hath mcnulty but when they look down icy the of the calls the looking ahead those policies we have enacted that we've made in the progress.

attorney fees and marine corps that will remain the greatest expeditionary force the world has ever and as the eye can see. [applause] [applause] >> mr. secretary we have a few questions with a 15 minute block we will go through as to many and

cement can use smith lifetime is the pension-fund but all of those measures but people of our attack fiat have the tradition. >> here we go. [laughter] and.

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so we're not ignoring and but to get into the hands and with all of the of their challenges the country is facing but women can you imaginatively as tim when

the fed is heywood where he know where that came from for of oppression i thought it was in poor and but the master chief petty officer of the navy bleared changing our structure is all the way

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>> life media founder and ceo talks about women's global leadership and teacher of feminism. this event was hosted by a johns hopkins university. [inaudible conversations]

>> good afternoon everyone. i am the dean of johns hopkins. it is my distinct pleasure to welcome you to the conversation with the award winning journalist author anton to particular tina brown. she has been one of the most influential voices in american in the media and has initiated a tremendous change and advocacy on behalf of important social and political causes and has spoken to national issues and global trends. defile few launched the and forward often a kafkaesque full offer solutions for better lives per default rules. [inaudible conversations]

and throughout the united states and had cheered extraordinary leaders such as barbara bush and oprah winfrey. they elevates a critically important conversation for what has no equal. one that we strive to attain at john hopkins is why today's conversation is women who inspire with the topic of women leaders making a difference on the global stage. this was added time there was a tremendous groundswell of alumni and students. of their programming such as

the annual conference organized by students to allow the school to be an advocate on issues of gender equality of global leadership. as one prominent graduate student of john hopkins have been educating and empowering, i lost my place. [laughter] and has been educating students for careers of leadership them public and private sectors. with this tradition in mind the platform to. with his leadership across the school and at the heart

of the mission is the heart of the realization that it isn't only assigned to itself many other global benefits. it is a perfect example of all that can be achieved with leadership with the illustrious career speaks for itself. she is the founding editor of vanity fair, "the new yorker" and also the founder and ceo of life media. conducted into the magazine holophane and has been the recipient of for george polk awards, five oversees the words and 10 national magazine awards. author of the day and a chronicles and in 2000 queen

elizabeth appointed her the commander of the order of the british empire in journalism. edges ever immense pleasure to talk and to be covered as a senior fellow at the johns hopkins. edges conversation would not be possible so without further ado returned the ambassador over. thank you. [applause] >> thanks for being here. >> also thank you to the dene and the audience to be here as part of our

conversation. you offer desi opportunity to see to speech and then to inspire but some of those highlights of the creative energy and life and career. i watched in particular a front row seat since 2010 and have seen how you energize a global audience.

you lead run a country that lay not the world. [laughter] but the issues you have made your alone and when you have made a platform but the marrying of the need for women's empowerment across-the-board critical economic, the illegal justice aspects. cannot just giving a voice but to find a common solution which in my experience, and we have seen

movements and exposure, but what made you made it the link because they said if all women would come after that part of it. >> pet it was begun in response to what i felt of the global women's movement. so for many years have been. >> but dash still working with spoons. [laughter]

>> much better? okay. >> i started in response to make global women's movement which that was with my work with vital voices and in the spring of 2009 i went to a retreat but this says of south america and africa india or pakistan but everyone seemed like a a a a a of a firecracker the wheel

very hungry for the addition so rather than what is exposed? and how finding it would be because they have sherman is an edgy in their own countries and doing their own thing. but there is no platform at all and nobody was listening. so i know how that feels then finally i do believe tremendously in the power of magic to move mountains if you credit engage people with the story then their heart is open and they focus on the issue start to with the issue. they want to listen n they

need to listen. said that is my training as a journalist or how do i make a person read this? and the signature reminds me any issue you want to do. anything you are looking for. and pay attention you can do that with the narrative. and then to have women come and then is what the extraordinary wordy issues of repression and they tried to find a solution.

>> but we found to the project ridley after the box office we do have one culture and one time we stopped after the radio show but then you could hear her over again but then but it was very dramatic that day operate. but and it is just very

powerful. and bennett they interested immediately. [inaudible] buddies with menu because they have been in that state and they were delighted to get a piece of the action. >> it is interesting you mention that the panel because i remember that. is particularly interesting to people because with the security council meeting that is for all the ministers which passed the