can you carry the conversation. 90% of people never called talk radio. all you have to do is talk about gun control, race, religion, and those lines will light up. that is part of the problem that we have in this industry. . .

5:00 to 6:00 in the afternoon. >> i do an afternoon hour, 5:00 to 6:00. this is my point, because this is my point. think the american people, and much of the audience sports talk radio came to talk radio because they felt alienated and what they were seeing on television and by other media and i think they were tired of being talked down to. think they were tired of being lectured to and i think what makes hugh hewitt so fantastic is that he doesn't lecture like the constitutional law professor. yes he has that knowledge base that he talks to us and i talked to that guy or that mom or dad driving home on the beltway stuck in traffic trying to get through the day and i get it because i have been there and we

all care passionately about this country. just because we don't have that advanced degree or experience our voice matters too. i think there is something very powerful in that. >> joyce i know you want to say something but one of the problems is that attention deficit disorder is a plague as the zika virus or any other problems we face. there's a feeling in media that you don't want to talk about people's heads and there's a feeling you can say whatever you want but you have to get it done by the next commercial break which eyes comes in two or three minutes and in their state minutes of commercials and by the time you come back you can't remember what you are talking about. the fact of the matter is the problems that our society faces are far more complicated than any radio clock or television clocks. television is even more shallow and there's an epidemic of

institutionalized shallowness in the public discussion. the politicians know this. they deal with a brilliantly and it's very difficult to be a host who really cares about the people in cares about the truth in this environment. it's a serious problem that our country faces and our democracy faces. >> politicians want to use our show as public relations. that really ticks me off. i'm listening to the obama administration officials that deals with international affairs on c-span radio. i've been trying to get this individual on for over a year. i see him and i say i will do your show and is you call and you have these gatekeepers but

then they all want to come on when there's an issue that all of us need to be talking about. when they find a news release they are knocking on the door and i come on and i come on and i come on but you wouldn't come on when there's a hot issue that everybody is talking about. we are caught between a rock and a hard spot. >> there are masters at that. they don't answer the question. >> which is why the point about what it is that keeps us motivated. i have a destination radio program because i'm not an morning driver afternoon drive which means people have to return to my radio program to hear me. they cannot turn to my radio program to hear my listeners into and to hear my guests. i was told once by the late great neil rogers talk radio is the soup. and the meat.

the guests are the potatoes and the listeners are the salt and pepper. you want mostly meat. i don't listen to tom to hear his guests. i wanted them. >> now i am hungry. serving lunch? one other thing i'd like to point out, let me just jump in. one of the things along these lines it's getting increasingly difficult to get callers. this may not be the case with every show that there are fewer callers per-capita at this time than there were five years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago and the reason for that they don't want to hear what they have to say because they have heard them are ready. oftentimes callers derail a program and the other problem is we are in a society where people have facebook and twitter and their own social media. there are people living in its actually a psychological thing.

a lot of people are living in this reality show psychosis and their life is a reality show being relived on facebook. pardon the reference but they have their own peanut gallery and they go through their life being stars. when i used to do talk radio in l.a. i walked in the studio and i did need have to have the monologue. how i handled them was all he had to do. i didn't have to get it going. today being on the radio is not that big a deal as it was so they are less likely to call. >> one subject in our was the traditional role. >> they insist upon knowing what's happening at that minute and they didn't even know if what you are telling that most true. there's an incredible appetite and we all make boneheaded mistakes.

i decided i would talk about my foot all draft. he called and said enough you there are lots of great sports stations in america. if a listener wants to listen they will probably dial in to espn. what they want is breaking news fairly presented and discussed from a point of view that makes sense. the people who are winning and tom goodwin on the left and i want to go back to that. ncr blocks the development of the centerleft radio because it is centerleft radio. it's actually way left radio and the bbc access. how you a major ways admirable because you were up against government subsidize competition and god forbid it comes back and local content.

it's just the head of government telling people what they want in the case of what i give them breaking news wrapped up with analysis is not what they get. the government will make the choice for them and that will be a disaster. >> thom hartmann has done is amazing. he has created his own platform and has a critical mass of listeners that make a difference in an industry that is not fair. of course i do want to see the fairness doctrine come back because the other side of that point and i do have not answer because nobody else did is that when there was the fairness doctrine there wasn't such a thing as the talk radio industry. there were a few talk shows here and there most of them didn't talk about politics for fear that an irrational government hand would step in and tell them what they can or cannot do, find them or worse take away their license.

>> you could speak to this michael because every year you host the talkers convention we gather in new york and talk about the industry. there are a lot of people in our industry right now that are sitting on the sidelines of talk radio trying to make the sale that all of us are making a mistake by discussing politics at all. >> that's another issue. there's nothing wrong with talking about politics but there are so many signals that don't have ratings and not have as this. why can't they talk about something else? why does it only to be politics? as one-dimensional thinking is the people that are talking politics should stop talking about politics and start talking about something else. no, you can't talk about politics too much. it's an important topic and it will never go away. people are tired of politics. they don't know history. maybe only sex is bigger. and you think about all the frequencies out there and all the possibilities out there and even within your own shows the

diversity as human beings on the air within your show as larry pointed out i think it's a shame there is no other kind of talk radio and politics and sports right now. >> the great thing about this election is it has lots of politics and lots of sex. [laughter] i want to say one thing. i'm trying to talk as little as possible but have you noticed we haven't talked about sex? >> the fairness doctrine thing i'll be open-minded about it and i'm not looking for -- so i don't want to be misunderstood. i just enjoy that critical thinking. i just enjoy listening to both sides. i enjoy being able to debate both sides and understand both sides and then coming to a conclusion.

i just miss those days and programmers want to do it voluntarily, that's fine. i really mean that but you don't do that now. it just doesn't exist. you tune into a show and i think and i may be wrong, i tune into this because they think like i think. >> a home is a talk show host that is extremely -- a local team. we have a lot of home eighth on talk radio and political talk radio but here's the problem in my opinion. we have developed a culture in which we seek victory at the expense of truth. think about that, we seek victory at the expense of truth as opposed to seeking truth at the expense of victory and

that's why debates and discussion and left and right for the sake of a compelling productive result have gone out of style because nobody is listening to anybody who says something other than what they think. i have a question for you to view coming toward the end. i have a question for each of you. give it some thought. we will start with tom and i'm going to bounce around in order so you don't know where it's going to go. if a lecture were held today do you think the result would be any different than if her were held six months from now, one month from now or two weeks ago to prove there is an undecided group in this country this time around that makes a difference and all these debates having any impact? >> yes, i do. i think they are undecided people but the democratic and republican constituency and the evidence of that is what

happened last friday with the sex tape coming out about donald trump and now you have not just republicans voters but you have republican elected officials who are running or the exit. it's not impossible, if not similar but equally newsworthy i suppose. he could come out about secretary clinton for somebody in her campaign. it's possible worse is coming out about donald trump. three weeks, gil cliche is -- and politics. it's historically been true but personally i'll take it matters anymore. we have heard it all. >> we have national debates in which the commentators tell you what's going to be talked about and what the candidates should say in order to win. it's like sports. if they have a good day throwing the ball they will make more points.

>> if that turns out to be the case secretary clinton's private e-mails are disqualifying a moment and there could be other major offense so it could change two or three times. >> chris i won hundred% agree with you on that. i wouldn't have thought a major presidential candidate could be caught on videotape seizing and being lifted into a van a month ago. i found that devastating and now that's all. >> i agree. if secretary clinton has another public health episode that could be a game-changer but also anyone who is trying to predict what's going to happen in this election cycle is playing the fool's game. i made one prediction this entire time early on in 2015 when i said on the air the jeb bush would not be the nominee even though all the polls and the monies said he would. by the way back to that really

quickly if he hadn't been seen as such a giant frontrunner so early on i. [bleep] may have gotten back in. i think he thought jeb had locked up the establishment money and he wasn't to be able to compete. had come back and run again this would be over already. >> interesting choice. >> we are in uncharted territory so i agree. i don't think you can make in the diction -- prediction. the hand we have never had so much early voting going on so in many ways when you tabulate those results it won't add or what happens in two weeks if you have bartik cast your vote. >> i think i heard someone say budgets. it's really overnight in a lifetime of politics. we all would agree that it's the event, no question. somebody told me yesterday that

they believe the opposite side of hillary clinton is something is going to come down that may change everything because that's just the way it is. overnight is a lifetime in politics. i've predict that donald trump may win the popular vote in hillary clinton is going to win the electoral vote. all hell is going to break loose because donald trump is going to argue that it was a conspiracy that all these guys were involved. >> sit tight. i want to introduce a gentleman who is extremely important in this whole thing happening. he is an up-and-coming captain of industry and our radio industry. i wish there were more like him. he is the ceo and founder old gold media group based out of pennsylvania spreading into new york state and eventually the world. he has the old gold media

foundation which i'm proud to be on the board of directors which has raised money to support student broadcasting and study the constitution in that regard and he is a great broadcaster. we owe him a debt of service, a debt for his service and that is bense benedetto. bands would you come up and say a few words? [applause] >> i want to thank the panel. that was great, wasn't it? what did you guys think? [applause] and a debt to michael harrison. there is no greater defender of our industry radio than this man right here. please give them a round of applause. [applause] i also want to thank him for making today hear one of my worst nightmares come true which is having to speak after six great radio talkshow hosts.

i love radio and in full disclosure i've never been on the radio and i could never be in the radio. i believe in the medium. i got out of the air force and put a company together to start to acquire radio stations. i believe it's the modern-day town hall. i think it's where americans gather to listen to the issues of the day. it's the ultimate example of free speech and why it must be preserved. i also believe that it has a fantastic future. if you are living in the golden age of audio, the average consumer consuming audio at a record clip. people are consuming more information and more audio every single day and this is radio wheelhouse. it's what we do best is create content at the end of the day

and as i say in local media groups the radio today is not just on air. sands air on line mobile, social life and local and has a tremendously great future. talk radio is uniquely important. it's the most demanding media news talk format and the hardest to have the greatest host and i'm a big believer in young people getting into this medium. also young people aspiring to want to do with the great folks on this panel have done. as such it's an honor to work with hilldale college to get them their first fm radio station. i want to welcome to great students in the program. raise your hand. [applause] all of this is for you and we have the general manager scott or term acknowledged earlier.

we need that bench. if you continue to flourish for the sake of our country and for the sake of the medium and i'm proud to have been part of that and i want to thank all of you for coming here today. thank you, michael. [applause] >> thank you very much and thanks to hillsdale college in thank you to this panel. i am very proud to have moderated this panel. thom hartmann, hugh hewitt, joyce kaufman joe madison larry o'connor and chris degaulle -- chris eagle we made it through the most contentious issue of our time the election of 2016 and we took the very high road. i'm so grateful to all of you and so proud of our industry, proud of this audience proud to be associated with hillsdale and wish you all well and that concludes this conversation.

thank you all. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> i don't write a column that comes from the left of the right and i think i'm in the only one who does the political column that doesn't have an ideological slant. >> what thing i don't like is when they get in trouble and donald trump does this too, when they get in trouble they try and blame someone else so you know when bill got in trouble with monica the white house aides were coloradans say thomas

jefferson, this debt president, right? >> now republican presidential candidate donald trump speaks at a campaign rally in north carolina. the rally was held at the charlotte convention center. this is an hour. [applause] ♪ ♪ c thank you, wow. thank you. thank you. [cheering]

thank you everybody. it's a nice group. we love north carolina, that i can tell you. so, before we start i want to bring up some people that have worked so hard for us and we have many others in the audience had it been incredible. in fact all of these people right here. it's called women for trump and they are all over the place. come on up. [applause] [applause] >> haight y'all. i am laura trump.

this man i'm honored to to say is my father-in-law, donald trump. [applause] you all know i'm from north carolina, right? just checking. listen we all know what happens when the hurricane in the eastern part of our state. it has been devastated and donald trump is a man who sees a problem and wants to fix fix it. [applause] so when he saw the devastation that it happened in greenville come in lumberton come in fayetteville, he said ladies we have to take action. we have to help those people. so he gave us $30,000 worth of supplies and food and sent us for help. [applause] so for the past few days we were able to help people who had nothing come whose homes and lives had been destroyed and

that is the way that donald trump wants to lead this country [applause] we are honored to be up here today in my home state. it is incredible to call this man my father-in-law and it will be the greatest honor of my life to call him our 45th president of the united states. [applause] thank you north carolina. i love you. [applause] north carolina on the first episode of the apprentice donald trump gave us a task and katrina

from the first season is here. he gave us limits and he said go out and make lemonade and sell it on the streets of new york. you all remember that? america we have been given a pickle barrel of lemons for the last seven years and it's time for us to turn this thing around we have got lemons and we are going to make a hell of a glass of lemonade. [applause] laura and i have a little cheer. she's a former cheerleader. when i save trump train i want you to say choo-choo. are you already? trump train. trump train. trump train. thank you. [applause]

[applause] boy, oh boy. we have a lot of other women for trump right here i'll tell you. the incredible spirit of the people of this state will power to recovery in the same spirit that will rebuild our nation are now that's happening right now. there's a movement going on the likes of which nobody has seen ever in this country and we are going to bring it forth and we are going to be very happy and very proud of our country again, i will tell you. [cheering] we are going to renegotiate our disastrous trade deals and illegal immigration. stop the massive inflow of refugees.

take care of our incredible veterans who are not being taken care of properly. [applause] we are going to repeal and replace job-killing obamacare. [applause] your jobs will come back under a trump administration. so many have left. your incomes will go up under a trump administration. your taxes will go way down and crooked hillary is giving you a big tax increase. your taxes will go way down under a trump administration. your companies won't be leaving our country under a trump administration. there will be consequences. they are not going to be leaving so easily folks not like the old days. the hillary clinton documents released by wikileaks make it more clear than ever just how much is at stake come november 8 such an important day.

such an important day. get out and vote everybody, get out and vote. in an e-mail sent to john podesta on august 17, 2014 hillary wrote that the government of qatar and saudi arabia quote provide a financial and logistical support to isil. yet, in that same year bill and hillary accepted a check from saudi arabia so hillary thinks that they are funding isis but still takes their money and you know their views on and you know their views on women. i think she should give back the 25 to $35 million she has taken from saudi arabia. [applause] ..

>> this is the tip of the iceberg. hillary bleached and leave and 333,000 e-mails after receiving a congressional subpoena and then made 13 phones disappear.

>> lock her up, lock her up, lock her up, lock her up, lock her up! >> it is amazing what she is getting away with. maybe that won't happen. that won't happen. she made 13 phones disappear, some by eating them, beating them with a hammer. has anybody, when you you got rid of your iphone knocked the heck out of it with a hammer? there's a person way, way in the back. we will find out what this is, that person she did it to cover up her crime is one more reason why we need a special prosecutor to look into hillary clinton. [applause] we have to investigate the investigation. the investigation, nobody, nobody in this country has seen anything

like it. this is our last chance to save our country and reclaim it for a week, the people. this is it. you do not have another chance. i really believe this is it. as you have seen, i am am a victim of one of the great political smear campaigns in the history of our country. they are coming after me to try and destroy what is considered by even them the greatest movement in the history of our country, there has never been anything else. [applause] bill o'reilly and others have said it is the single greatest political phenomena in his lifetime and others have said the same thing. the political establishment is trying to stop us because they know that we are a threat to their totally corrupt control. it's true. no one is more corrupt thing

crooked hillary clinton. nobody. [applause] in fact, she is the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the united states of america. her specialty if you look over the years has been character assassination. and really, personally just going after people. that's her specialty. she has been doing it her whole career. the only force strong enough to smash clinton's corrupt syndicate, is you, the american voter. american voter. on november 8. november 8. after many, many years, even many decades without complaint, the media and the clinton

campaign have brought forward false allegations less than one month before the most important election in modern times. these allegations are 100% false as everybody, i think think you know. i think you get it. i think you get it. they are made up, they never happened, when have you met tens of thousands of people as i have , and i have met thousands and thousands and thousands of people, i know them, i know them well. it is not hard to find a small handful of people willing to make false smears for personal fame, who knows, maybe for financial reasons, political purposes, or for the simple reason, they want to stop our movement, they want to stop our campaign. these claims defy reason and

common sense. they're they're made without supporting witnesses. twenty-eight years ago, 14 years ago, 12 years ago, not me, believe me. believe me not me. you would be very impressed. actually with my life, and so so many regards, including that regard. nope, not a single shred of evidence. eyewitnesses have already debunked the wild and ludicrous allegations. of a magazine article that appeared and i will tell you what, it was just incredible. it it was people magazine. in the article appeared and the statement was made but if it was true they would've put it in the article. they would have had to put it into the article. but they didn't do that. and they didn't do that for some reason, because it never happened.

twelve years ago. never complain, never talked never talked to the bosses, all of a sudden two nights ago we get a call and the call was from people magazine. they did not even want a quote. i think maybe what we should do, boycott that issue of people magazine. [applause] so, that's the latest. it is. i just want to tell you folks that it is a campaign that is amazing, i'm not going to be talking about it much because we want to talk about other things and we have to talk about other things. [applause] but if it affects five percent, two percent, ten percent, or it is all false stuff. it is all a concerted effort. i think it is the only way they're going to stop us. the only way, and i don't think that is going to happen. you can get him out of here.

get them out. get them out. >> and hey look the cameras turned. look, the cameras turned. the cameras turned. oh, that is that is wonderful. that is so good. the only way we get the cameras to turn, so folks, here's the story, we are going to bring jobs back to north carolina. [applause] we are going to bring borders back to our country. and yes, we will build the wall. and mexico will be paying for that wall.

[applause] it's a great crowd. >> build that wall, build that wall, build that wall, build that wall, build that wall! >> i want to talk about jobs because i do this part of the road, i told you i property here, a lot of great employees, a lot of friends. your jobs are being taken pretty much like nobody else's jobs have been taken. it's only going to get worse. as you stand here tonight, some of your companies, your leaders and your companies are negotiating with mexico and other places. you know that. to move that company to mexico. during the primary system, had a very interesting. of time because i got to know

this country so well. we had 17 people running, i was given a small chance because they said he is not an experienced politician. then, week week after week, one by one, but i got to know the country and i got to see what is happening with our manufacturing. we don't make much anymore in comparison to what we used to do. we used to be amazing. we don't do what we used to do. i had one new york state and i had gotten up to places a new york state which i had not seen in a long time, hillary clinton represented new york state as she was a disaster. she was a disaster. she said she was going to bring jobs back, 200,000 jobs , well it was the opposite. jobs fled. she. she lied to the people of new york state. it was a total catastrophe. if you look at what has happened to

new york now, just take a look at what has happened in terms of upstate in manufacturing, you go to the different places, albany and syracuse, and rome. i and rome. i say that is the real rome, but they are having a lot of problems. whoops, somebody's hurt. is there doctrine house please? a dr.? [inaudible] >> we have to take care of our people, right, these are these are great people. we have to take care of them. we have to take care of our country because we do not want to be a divided country anymore. we are very divided. divided. we are going to take care of our country. some of these people got here

nine hours and ten hours ago, right? so we can understand how there could be some problems. are you doing okay over there? look okay? we have tough people in this room let me tell you. it is hot. the other night they said donald trump was sweating. i was in in a room that was 110 degrees. we had 17000 people and i tell you what, i wasn't sweating too much for what we had. good, we will make sure everything is perfect here. we'll make sure everything is perfect, take your time. our great please have just arrived. we love our please? [applause]

>> usa, usa, usa, usa, usa, usa, usa,. [inaudible] [inaudible] >> everything good? okay good. good. good, give that person a hand. [applause] when they go down in a trump rally, they will leave but they always come back. it's amazing. it's an amazing thing. we will keep going, if you let us know if there's any problem and i will problem and i will come down and help you myself.

[applause] so we went to indiana and in going to indiana i got to note the great bobby knight. that that was a great endorsement. coach night. you know the story he called and said mr. trump, it's coach night. i want you to run for president. my sick coach i haven't made up my mind, it was a couple years ago and he said if you do i would like you do i would like to endorse you, just let me know. and we were winning state, after state, after state. all of a sudden we hit indiana. that is where we are going to maybe not do as well, remember remember that. they called it our watershed. i said, you know bobby knight called and said do you have access to bobby knight i said that would be great. then then i said i just happen to. i lifted up and it was like his number was right there is like a miracle from god. it was from god. [applause]

said jesus is for trump, you're right. [applause] and i said, let me do that. i called bobby knight and set i would love to be there. that was. that was a very, very strong performance that he put it and we put in, them i really got to know our country. i got to do it well. so proud of the people of this country. one of the things i saw and i said you take care of that person, thank you. thank you. she will be back, you watch, she will be right back. >> one of the things that happened is that i saw what was going on so closely and vividly with respect to jobs. and how our jobs are being drained because of nafta. nafta is a disaster. it's a a disaster. signed by bill clinton.

you are not to believe the number. 70000, 70000 factories, manufacturing plants have closed since the signing of nafta. who would believe this? 70,000, he thought they made a mistake, i thought it would be 700. it can be 70000. , millions of jobs, wasted, lost, many people in this room are making less money now than they made 20 years ago, 18 years ago, 18 years ago, 25 years ago, in real wages. they're working harder, so my so i don't feel so guilty about that. this is work but not bad work, because we we're getting to a position where if we can win north carolina, and we are leading in ohio, you saw that. [applause] we are doing great in florida. we are doing great.

we are doing so good in florida, by the way these teleprompters have not been working for the last 20 minutes. and i actually my speech better without teleprompters. [applause] in this way what i like about it,. [inaudible] i like it better without the teleprompters. and i notice, every time i look up it's trying and straining, it's straining. hey, get this thing out of here will you? get it. i like it much better without the teleprompter. you know it's very funny, i went through 17 professional politicians and i went without

any teleprompters. then all of a sudden they said, well now you're running into the election, you you need teleprompters. and i like, they're fine, but it sort of cooler without it, right? don't you think? i like it better without. the little strange when he see this list, watch hillary hillary and she got the biggest pieces of glass and sometimes they are painted black on the other side because you see better. she always just reads off the teleprompter. it is short, and that she goes home she goes to sleep. now look, look, she is not going to campaign anymore until after because she is prepping for the debate. now, the last time she prepped for a week also let's face it, you have to say i really beat

her easily. [applause] [applause] >> trump, trump, trump! >> so here's the story. the teleprompter is a bummer. it doesn't work. that means the company doing the teleprompter is in the back, that means they did not go into a means they do not good to a good job. so i won't pay them. i won't pay them. and tomorrow, i will have a story in the newspaper, donald trump did not pay a contractor who put up the teleprompters, why should i?

they don't work. no, it's true. and they will make me like a bad guy, like i'm a bad person. i pay contractors on time, i am so good, we just built a hotel on pennsylvania avenue, on time, under budget, i paid, we had great contractors. but when you have a bum contractor, here's the thing give a bad contractor, don't pay, or cut the price. you have a good contractor get the money out fast. but the but the country should do the same thing. they build roads that cost much more than they are supposed across. they build roads that are crazy where they are double and triple, they build buildings did you receive thousand percent, there's a hospital being built in one of my favorite states.

it is so out of control like 1000 percent. over. i looked at it, i thought it, thought it was a massive, snotty been a big deal. our country has to be able to do things on time, on budget, has, has to be able to build on time, on budget. has has to be able to purchase its military equipment, not for political reasons because some political guy owns the company, but because that is the equipment that are generals, admirals, soldiers, sailors wants. you have to do it. [applause] we are going to change our whole purchasing procedure. for instance the purchase of drugs. the drug companies have a tremendously powerful lobby. we don't negotiate properly. we would save so much money with proper negotiation. it is true about the military,

if you are someone who has less good, stuff they don't want as much is another company but you are a political power, you contribute to the senators into the congressman into the people, any work with the admirals and you work with everybody, all of a sudden they're buying equipment that is not as good and spending more money doing it. we won't won't be doing that stuff anymore. remember this, blake met spent my money running for office and some people said and they said all the time come they said, one in particular said you don't realize what you have done. never been done before. it doesn't matter whether or not you win or lose, it makes no difference. what you have done for clinical history. and i said let me tell you something if we don't win on november 8, it will

be the greatest waste of time, energy, energy, did you ever hear that word before, low-energy. a couple of those guys that sign the pledge, they signed the pledge because they wanted me to sign the pledge. then when they lost they never got been so badly in their lives. but when they lost they did not honor the pledge. i was actually surprised, only a few of them. most of them didn't. many of them, ben carson carson and a lot of great people. mike huckabee has been great, chris christie. we have had a lot of great support. especially from the real world. a couple of our leaders is not working out for them so well. but i will tell you this, we are

going to have, we are going to have an amazing victory on november eighth. we will come back here and celebrate. [applause] we are going to have an amazing victory. this is all about the people. this is now about the people. let me just tell you, is talking about jobs and when you get. [applause] when you get to the different places within our country and you see how our companies are being sucked out into mexico and other places, here is what is going to happen. i go to indiana nic carrier air-conditioning. 1400 people that followed me over indiana, so many of them, so much support. there were fired and there were there for 25 years years or longer, they were fired. carrier announced they were

moving to mexico, going to to build a new plant and make air-conditioners and they're going to sell the air-conditioners and tour countries and other places and we are fools so we are going to say go ahead, fire all of these people in indianapolis and you're going to do this, not if i'm president. ford announced two weeks ago that they are moving the production of their smaller cars. that's a big production. to mexico. from our country, and by the weight the reason we are doing well in michigan, and ohio is because they know that i've been talking about automobile production. i have been pointing out what is happening to automobile production and where it is moving. i've i've been talking about for five years. cricket hillary just started

talking about it. and just like she failed in new york state with jobs, she is never bringing your businesses back. she is going to give you massive tax increases. massive. and i am cutting taxes massively. so here's the story, for years and years you've been hearing that companies are moving out. who better than north carolina to know exactly what happened. you people have lost a lot of businesses. not going to happen anymore. whether it is for, whether whether it is carrier for somebody else, we hear somebody's leaving we are going to say we hope you stay in let's stay and talk, nobody talks to these companies by the way. do you think anybody talk to carrier for, they just do whatever they want to do. but nobody talks, you have have to go see him, you have to be

nice and if it doesn't work out you'll tax the hell out of their product coming back in. so, what happens is that for years and years the been talking about how do we keep our companies in north carolina? how do we keep our companies in the different states and they give interest-free loans and all sorts of goodies. didn't need the money, so i've been talking for the past six months and it's very simple, i would do it before evan set a sentence. what you do as you say the following. carrier, are you staying or leaving question awkward leaving. by the were leaving. by the way nobody's going to leave once you tell them what's happening. so they're leaving because they're early. any say to them as an example, if i were made by a president

secretary of keeping businesses in the united states secretary of keeping businesses, not a glamorous title but boy would i be good at that. because i would call up the head of carrier as an example. and i would say, congratulations on your new plant in mexico, yes i agree it's warm but i hear it's going to be a lovely place. and if you move, and we don't want you to move, there are are consequences. and they'll say what are the consequences and every single time you make an air-conditioning unit in mexico and you think after firing all of these people in indianapolis you're going to take that unit, haven't come come across the border with no tariffs, no taxes, you are 100% wrong. we are going to charge you. [applause]

we are going to charge you very importantly, we are going to charge you 35% tax for any unit that you make. now here is what is going to happen. number one, very strongly, nobody's going to leave. but if they do leave one percent, 2%, 2% believe me, nobody is leaving. but if they do leave were going to make a fortune so it's okay either way. because we cannot afford to continue to lose our company, we are losing our companies, were losing our jobs, we cannot afford we cannot afford to lose our manufacturing. it will will all come to an end. we are going to keep her companies and expand our companies, we are reducing taxes

sense ronald reagan and could even be bigger than that. [applause] our companies are going to stay. our companies are going to expand and our companies are going to thrive. in addition, new companies will be started, jobs, jobs will happen. we will produce 25,000,000 jobs million jobs over a period of ten years. as sure as you are standing there. [applause] whether it is carrier -- is that carrier air-conditioning? what is she talking about? . . .

>> >> instead of making them our friends, led this incompetent president, he is incompetent. he does not want donald trump because first of all, one of the first acts is to get rid of is ridiculous health care that does not work. [cheers and applause] i wonder coupes for that plane when he flies into a

campaign for her? i know the answer. the campaign pays for a tidy little fraction. >> thanks. that is great. we have no choice. repeatable and replace. cement dash an air of minnesota said the affordable care act is not affordable. hillary clinton wants to spend a fortune the premiums

will go up over 100 percent next year would get your area. going up 50, 70, 80 percent. it is broken and it does not work it is a disaster we will have a new health care plan that will be less money for you and for the country with of much higher quality health care. remember have your doctor and have your plan? twenty-eight times he said that. hillary clinton when she was at the state department, $6 billion was missing me will have a great

firebrand country again. we will have jobs. we will bring back but take care of things that have never been taking care of. the inner city. may have enders' cities where the crime rate is beyond belief and level of poverty is hard to believe for this country and education is virtually nonexistent. common core? we will get rid of that. [cheers and applause] common core it is out. take a look at the african-american with their crime is so bad you go with

your child to get a loaf of bread and you get shot. added control. look at chicago. 300, at no. 3,000 shootings since january 1st. the crate is incredible murders said the united states they don't tell you this, murders in in the united states are up in, did you see the numbers? the highest they have dead and 45 years. and is the highest it has been in 45 years we will make our country so much stronger and safer for the african-american community we will sign the crime problem and help with education and then bring our

jobs back for everybody to make the community safe what the hell do you have to lose? washington d.c. baltimore, what do you have to lose? i will fix the inner-city is it is like a passion of mine i am good at fixing things especially real estate. importantly to braying in end to bring jobs back to the country. so i hope you'll vote for donald trump.

the same thing with hispanic americans we have a lot. we will bring education back and safety back and fix said. broke for donald trump. here is a list of things we will fix our military to escolar -- look at our depleted military will get what is going on with the people we just made rich.

me want to have peace through strength. the people in the military are the of best. and fighter jets that sold to go to graveyards. to find the ecolab -- to have the type of equipment they deserve. they are treated far worse then illegal immigrants into the country and to help our veterans.

and people are dying because they cannot see a doctor quickly enough for a simple procedure or prescription if you have that kind of a weight that you will not die in our country. not the veterans you will not die waiting in line. [cheers and applause] very important. we will stop drugs from going into our country.

we have i.c.e. and border patrol when the first presidential candidate i.c.e. has never endorsed by promised this to new hampshire who had said terrible problem we will stop the drugs from coming into our country and poisoning our youth. but we are going to have a door that will lead a lot of people in the day are coming into the country legally. [cheers and applause]

name robert sector second amendment. further the nra endorsed donald trump and it is the earliest endorsement they have never given to a candidate which i am proud of. this second amendment under siege if hillary gets then forget. we will protect the second amendment. importantly but so importantly we are going to appoint justices to the united states supreme court that you will be proud of.

we will be upholding the constitution. even though your speakers and george teleprompter is were no good. [cheers and applause] but you will look back to say i had a good time but you will go home and in 15 years hopefully longer than that to say this is an important evening in my life. i love the science with men for trump.

so more importantly on november 8 to be the most important vote to that you have never cast. we will take back the white house. have they can trade that you will be so proud of again. do you notice we don't win anymore. we have iran and nipping at us. we cannot beat isis. i say george patton i was a fan he could not make it today because he was not politically correct. he was on the roadside but

general macarthur. they are sitting for a the military people. so we hear the leaders of vice is. -- i says and largely i start to hear that we are going to attack someone the next few months. we will hit them hard left in right yes, sir. but only one problem.

by the time we attack them all the ones it we want to attack our god. house stupid are the people that run our country? [cheers and applause] to grab it all then the american people the bad ones are gone. day zinc general george paton, i have over to the underdog role san generals supporting donald trump and endorsing me. i have 21 recipients of the medal of honor that has

endorsed donald trump. and then to totally annihilated hillary clinton remember when she came in front of me? i said hi. but remember she walked in front of me in answer the question which is fine. i have no problem with that but the next day to say i innovative airspace while on stage. here is my lector in.

and nothing she likes me to much. what is this three / one? hillary caveman to walk right in front i was standing there. i did not want to be scolded for that. but the next day he violated hillary is space or to violate the space of cricket hillary. fishing is all now preparing. but i saw all of this day after day we are attacking knows all want dash mosul.

we will not give $150 billion to the terrorist date to. we will look at the deal so close and the hardest part is we year giving them so much money already. but they don't honor that deal to every single little word we will wrap this up so fast. their head will spin. and secretary kerry i don't mind making deals for nuclear. and obamacare thinks global

warming is our biggest threat. i think it is nuclear warming. because that situation is getting more and more out-of-control and she talks tough she talks tough about libya and will:dash look what happened there she is unfit to be president because she has such bad judgment. even bernie sanders said she has bad judgment. she took the election away from the guy. they said that election away.

and to rid the system that is rigging the system. like you have never seen before. , love the people of north carolina. over the next 25 days. [applause] you have to get out and vote we will make our country strong again and rich again and smarted again. and what else? we will make our country

great again. thank you. [cheers and applause] ♪ >> political reporter for the of boston globe rights on saturday in new hampshire once again it is donald trump political fold his fourth visit in four weeks and joining us from boston thank you for joining us. >> why has the state become so critical to both campaigns? >> end of what of ways it has it mattered if you go back to the 2000 elections that was the ralph nader wrote algal or one new hampshire instead of bush that year we would not talk about hanging chad's.

both parties talk about that since that pivotal year but with donald trump harrison think highly unusual about all of his trips to the state is his fourth trip in four weeks. it is tidy disproportionate compared to everywhere else in the country. this race is coming down to for a big swing states north carolina and pennsylvania to make that argument that he has a chance in to win the electoral votes. ended just as for electoral votes.

>> in his quest to get to hundred 70 electoral votes what is the path to victory and what role does do hampshire plight? gimmicky has to pass. -- she has to pads one is to sweep all the big states like ohio and pennsylvania and north carolina and florida. in he will get there barely but the adoption is some of those and then like iowa iowa, nevada, colorado then new hampshire he can do that but it is so disproportionate the amount of times he has been here he has been here eight times since the california primary with the kickoff.

and that is more trips than he has spent like arizona and georgia combined in those two states and a couple of others. so to spend more time here and he has had more campaigning stops bandit robbed needed for years ago and it brought me basically lives in new hampshire. so it is highly disproportionate to seek so much time here but one is the trump campaign shows clinton up by 6 percent consistently and they say it is tighter but it is just closer to new york city.

when he schedules and event at the last minute eking come to new hampshire the staff can put together the event, he can get back into his plane. gilbert: a number who controls the senate in 2017 how does that impact the overall 10 or of the campaign. >> of those contests. it is the most expensive with the race of american history. a sitting u.s. senator

they're all very well informed on policy. and the first question every single debate has been about the presidential race. it is overshadowing everything that i just said that was dramatic and impressive. >> we can read your work on-line check out his plod entitled ground game. >> thanks for your time.

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>> hello [cheers and applause] thank you hello cleveland. i love you back. the head of the airport here pointed out in 2012 and one of the last release was right here. you may have been there but i have to say it was an amazing rally. everybody was so induce yes it but the one thing and

have to say this time it seems like there is an extra pet is in your step. [cheers and applause] i dunno what happened exactly. i don't know did something happen in in cleveland? [cheers and applause] did lebron have something to do with it? [laughter] in every ready please give jackie a big round of applause? we decimals standing members

of congress to are here. your outstanding mayor and although he is campaigning elsewhere i want to make sure we give a shad out - - out out to former governor i love you back. thank-you. so this will probably be one of the last times i will be here as your president by will come back to cleveland to go to a game but understand with michele and

i was only eight years. to make sure that the dogs of not ruined too many carpet's. we want our deposit back. but we are pleased to have your erse support over the years i remember when we were campaigning here and we were in the midst of too long wars. in the year they days of the worst economic crisis of our lifetime of kinds of intelligence from health care in climate change where we were not even pretending to do something about it just kicking the can down the road. and ayatollah do that the

years ago that i wasn't a perfect person or a perfect president but i guaranteed i would work every single day to make shirr working families all across this country got a better deal. and you gave me the honor to serve you and now we have fodder way back we have helped the auto industry to turn those traub losses we blasted the dependence on foreign oil.

come on. , and everybody let's do our little changed. [chanting] i have noticed this is happening everywhere i tell them that you have to organize your old rally. [laughter] and you are confident about the other guy they go to his. i feel confident about my candidate.

you don't have to spend time over here. go knock on some doors. that is of better way. everybody has to make a living. where was i? eight years ago we were in a tough situation because of your resilience we have / the unemployment rate in half. in comes are rising again. the largest amount that has ever ben measured.

in fact last year party went down faster than any of their time. and at an all-time low. we've brought maurer brave troops home to their families. by almost every measure our economy is better than was then when i came in office that is true right here in ohio with the auto industry. and when we came into office to do as well or better than ever before the hundreds of

thousands of folks that have benefited. but i am here to tell you that all that progress goes out the window if you make the right choice right now. is us choice for somebody who is qualified for anybody who is running for the office that we are unfit to represent this country that we love. democrats ed republicans that this of a good thing

running against john mccain and a bit robbie we had serious debates of economic policy or foreign policy and those elections were close. i thought and add duh better argument and i would be the better president. but i could see either one surveying honorably but not embarrassing as on the world stage. they would have gauged with the normal democratic process. but that is not the case with today's republican nominee. he doesn't have the temperament or the knowledge or the basic honesty

president needs to have. talking about how he treats women. and by the way when he talked about how muslims are unpatriotic or mexicans are raping or our veterans and our troops. you don't have to be a husband those kinds of actions he does have to be a decent human being. some of you got to hear machel yesterday.

about what minnesota to her. but my daughters are smarter than be. yes she was sticking up for women. and to teach the next generation. also on behalf of men that were better than this. and what we see none television got one of the measures how do they treat

their women and girls? of dignity and equality. and did you believe we are batter the good news is there's nothing that we can do about it. but ohio is always close so go vote right now. early voting started on wednesday. i know everybody here is surly voters otherwise you would not be here. but maybe you may not be here if you don't know you are even registered goal of

mine to find where you can vote early or request the male and ballot. this is not a infomercial. an opportunity to exercise your right to vote and your civic responsibility. and don't need to wait until election day. with a pessimistic vision care we turn away from our role in the world with politics of resentment of hit a grand and hate a country full of courage and generosity and ingenuity.

we have real challenges. eight years ago snb wouldn't solve everything with one presidency. students are still trying to figure out how to pay off standalone that the parents are still concerned if they can keep their home. a debate talks about gridlock. all across the country people are concerned of the increased racial division. there are pockets of ohio and america that have not recovered. down people who are worried.

with hundreds of thousands of people. everything that is right about america. i see teachers teaching kids. to major they have supplies. i have seen our men and women in uniform i have seen police officers of those that run into danger. essene young activists i have seen the young generation and it will not be held back.

that we believe we are strong bird together. all of us pledging allegiance but there is only one kennedy in this race. and this is the next president of united states hillary clinton her opponent has made a pretty clear he will make the of election as low as it possibly can. it makes up politics toxic

or you get discouraged any just don't vote. but no more. i am telling you right now hillary is one of the smartest best prepared in most experienced ever to run for the job. [cheers and applause] there is nothing that completely prepares you to send young person to war but she has been there when those decisions were made as first lady and senator and that each and every job has worked tirelessly and diligently to the american people she has done her hallmark and has performed and knows the decision set a president makes.

or a worker were looking for a good job. and then to pay the of proper respect. and then no matter how much they try to knock her down. should is and talk about how it is reagan but just works harder and never quits. she gets the job done. [applause] >> by the way isn't that what you want in a president? her opponent i noticed is in the middle of the game making excuses all the time.

to see those to talk tough in is interesting but then don't act of. because then you don't make excuses then you just play the game. hillary is just playing the game berger she is in the arena for you fighting every single day to make sure everybody gets a fair shake. there isn't a person out there who is not more qualified and besides me that includes bill. she has real plans to hear from you specifically about investing in jobs to help

workers share it with the idea is that fewer jobs divorcees. to mention that the jobs come back in places. to put kids in and preschool without taking on a ton of debt. her opponents meanwhile hillary is talking about fighting climate change. [applause] to help millions of families. she wasn't complaining or winding she was just doing the of work that is what you want from your president.

somebody who will sit there and do the work for you. her opponent doesn't make specific plans. if you ask his supporters right now what exactly they would do i not that many people that operated casino and committed shall lose $1 billion in one year. the house wins. and he owes that house. i know what of successful businesses that use that failure that can avoid paying federal income tax.

all it does means that what we should be doing to give back to our troops and veterans to make sure that america continues to be the greatest nation on earth. to be sought of your responsibilities. that you teach a everybody had a do their responsibilities? and for a housing crisis? he says that this call business. but then that allowed him to stiffed the small businesses and their workers.

so when your concern is not the family that is rated of foreclosure or those trying to make ends meet you try to make a buck off of their dreams but not to be honest on the aside then you cannot claim to lead this country. and he is getting support and i want to say being 70 years on this earth with no regard for working people. to support collective bargaining or minimum wage. were to invest in the port communities now suddenly he is the champion?

come on. come on. yesterday he started to talk about global reach he spent all his time to convince anybody he was the globally the. how luxurious and how rich he is. and now suddenly he acts like he is popular. come on. do you want to know what somebody will do? like what they have done their whole lives. if you one better benefits and a better tax cuts and

better tax code than you should vote for hillary clinton. [applause] if you want to know who will be clear in your choice hillary will make sure she finishes the job or to ban entire religions from our country. she has the knowledge and experience. you cannot have a guy who was called the of veterans week to tell the allies he may be a big decline in the morning but that is because somebody who got under his skin and. that is not the president that you want.

he is not fit to be commander in chief. not fit to lead the world's greatest democracy. or to silence the media or to have russian meddling in the electoral process. because of all the stuff that he said some nations to operate that way. they are not the world's greatest democracy around the world that you just cannot french retail your opponents.

that is called to process. you cannot just banned reporters that you don't like. because there is something called the first amendment. in a democracy if you lose any say congratulations and move on because the country in system and of government is bigger and that is what we do the united states of america has always stood for something better which by the way i dissected back to this again it is part of why i am concerned about the

republican elected officials better still supporting this guy. i said in part of what happened over the last 80 years republican officials know better. but what they have done is allow a lot of crazy talk again and again these media outlets that i was born outside this country and hillary and i started isis we will impose martial law. and crazier stuff and that. many elected officials have just stood by house members

or senators and did not say anything because that was a way to rile up the base and to mount opposition to whenever we were trying to do. and over time they would hear this over and over again. that is what allowed donald trump nabi he did and build this crazy conspiracy stuff and some republicans who knew better if silently even during the course of the campaign i know some of them now are walking away bet why

did it take this long? you said you are the party of family values but not earlier? when he was saying degrading things about women? judging them based on this border? that wasn't enough that was a disturbing enough when he said mexicans who come here are rapist? or to suggest that patriotic americans somehow or suspect to be treated differently? to say we need to walk away

but looking at those polled members to say that will give me in trouble that isn't enough to say family values all the way through. if you are extoling reagan how is it when you nominate a of a guy he admires as former head of the kgb? if you say you are about the constitution but opposed to what obama is doing with executive action that shows he is a tyrant but you're okay with a guy who says i will throw you in jail during the debate? how does that work? it doesn't.

that is why want everybody to understand what is at stake. i have learned for over the past eight years progress you have to battle that out you have to work and to make a better to take two steps forward people will try to push back like special interest and it is true the country is so often divided on party lines. . .