life there were hard working people through the depression. and my mom had a strong intuition she saw the furrows on my brow and it gave me great comfort when she was breast-feeding resistor. i have to exciting ideas for north dakota. one is a way to balance the budget so families don't have to be taxed more and also those opportunities n agriculture the accord to sharing with you. >> our second candidates talk is doug burgum. burgum: i am grateful to have the opportunity to be on the ballot to represent the american one dash the republican party for i grew up in arthur on the west

edge of the valley my father ran the great but elevator business and with the loving parents. and my dad passed away battling cancer and i could learn some important lessons as a summer imam return to the workforce as a single mother to raise three kids. then i discovered the power of personal computers and software in and i formed all those acres from my dad. and then we were acquired by microsoft for i have seen in north dakota kid can do and i am excited but what we can do for north dakota going forward.

>> moderator: our democratic candidate marvin nelson. nelson: we face a difficult time in north dakota our income has dropped precipitously as the state went from $12 billion -- $12 million in the oil tax of a $5 billion drop. we have to make adjustments. we have to continue serving the pour in the elderly and those who cannot take care of themselves for a but the same time we don't want to make the mistake of the '80s where we show a fall of the responsibility and that back we'd behalf to take care of this irresponsibility we need to care for children across the state so people can afford to work and it needs to be quality daycare. >> moderator: we will start with doug burgum.

i will talk about the budget and some challenges. what would you do differently if you were governor? burgum: i have not been governor coming in as an outsider as a business leader running for governor to discuss what had been done differently but i would rather talk about going forward. it is important to make sure rematch spending with revenue. we have had a precipitous drop of revenue so we have to reduce the spending the state is doing at the same time for our better at forecasting and risk-management to manage revenues. we need to do a better job to make sure that we find our priorities through zero based budgeting the first hour not just a last hour with those limited resources >> moderator: same

question to marvin nelson. what was it you have done differently as governor? nelson: in major difference the governor should listen to the people. we have five ballot measures whenever the people decide they voted not to cut income tax but yet the leaders of the majority party continually cut income-tax. the people the instituted a tax the majority party put in the trigger that was excused and they cut the tax. we need the leadership of the state to be willing to listen to the state. riske: one of the cornerstones of my candidacy is to initiate the tradition of the independent audit of state government on the occasional basis or every

year with some cases and to identify how to cut the budget precisely instead of the across-the-board cuts we have been doing. it is a reactionary thing where air requires thought in the second thing we need to do is look at higher education and coming out with a steady on that tomorrow and looking to see if there's just one example out of many with the engineering departments. >> talking about zero based budgeting, they don't believe in the idea of cost? >> with that concept of funding in the past the funding that is required to keep that going such talk

about one time spending see you have to keep that and staff that and put the snow in front of it so there is such a thing as onetime spending. and reducing the onetime spending considering all the cost that goes for after that one time expense. >> moderator: should there be zero base budget? >> that is a good way to do a budget. ahead as advantages and disadvantages. and with continuing spending and i don't think it really needs to show off to be in the budget.

riske: eventually we are looking at some buildings because we don't want those ongoing expenses the independent audit which show without would amount to. could be consolidate real-estate? >> moderator: i am very interested in this there's a lot of complaints from legislators on the republican side about our forecast. so if you mentioned there has to be a better forecast? and much of the tax revenue with the agriculture sector but just like any business in in the commodity business fourth generation run by a family member we don't take

the risk on those revenues even over 24 hours. that drives revenue directly from oil production and we need to think how redo the better job of risk-management? that there are methodologies some of those fancy names come of we could give the legislature a range of forecasts just a single number. five. >> so to think about the forecasting of state government? in my bed is a possibility to be dependent on the commodities. at this point there seem to be a strong enough relationship of income-tax and sales tax but the place

for us to go out on the market to pick out a model of the north dakota economy that will always be someone frustrating. riske: rehab discussions about our state government and even possibly to forecast for other states that our agriculture that we have the same problems. it is unique to the united states and also to take off on the idea would be helpful to develop the idea to give for -- farmers or producers to tell us about the industry. >> is for the last two months at least with uh dakota access pipeline hell

has the governor has handled this? the with the:access pipeline >> the problem came not from the governor's office but it wasn't very well done but shows so we need to change the public service commission. basically we're talking security but i have ben really disappointed to get the different people in to talk to each other. everything is done through innuendo and the news media. people are scared it is like they're working with each other as stereotypes instead of talking face to face to see nobody has seen of there it is a solution. >> hindsight 20/20 the level

get the negotiation table down as quickly as i could before the national influence comes in obama did a troublesome thing behind a federal judge to break the rule of law that it would not proceed he took the of ball into his hands and took that away from us. will he turn that against us? we rely on diesel from the farm to the shells in the grocer's store so we absolutely need to have this solar that is powerful enough for other energy to have the effect on the employee benefits pension funds.

because pipelines are in important part of investment when it comes to retirement. now with the disruption to see the pressure of the investment every now. we need to move forward to make us ideal to address some of their concerns. burgum: i and agreed that there is a good opportunity of dialogue to go with the citizens of first dakota but the reality where we find ourselves is this is a focal point as the federal international political battle that has gotten much larger than and pipelines.

fred p. overreach is to the extreme where this morning gave ruled in favor of the pipeline but we have the army corps of engineers department of justice, a department of interior and all of these federal agencies with their energy security or union jobs jobs, behalf to be able to trade jobs and build the infrastructure. to a understand and have a dialogue. to meddle in affairs at the state level. >> moderator: to follow-up comment to the standing rock sioux indians have a point question next certainly it goes through their water.

there was an effort to consult them but never about the water and they do have a point. >> i agreed. however i did go to standing rock and i did talk to a few people down there and i did meet a brother who was in the pipeline business. the new pipes are far better than the old pipes with better allies. so we have a lot more confidence in the newer pipe that leads me to think we could make a deal to improve the infrastructure elsewhere to satisfy them. >> absolutely they have a point. and they also have the opportunity to have a voice for what has gone on whether clean water to understand that it was approved

thrilling process that goes through of pipeline process that has already existed we already have that so this is an opportunity for further dialogue. had a chance to go to standing rock to meet with the leadership. last week had a phone call listening and understanding the concerns but this will not be resolved without the federal government taking a different position not just about the governor but the federal validation whether they will politicize this sort allow the rule of law to proceed. >> moderator: to switch gears let's talk about property taxes. not something that the state levies but there is involved

and to lower property taxes. is the sustainable? do make it is a great question something we are buckingham at closely as part of what will happen from north dakota in terms of our biggest opportunities . we compared to the north dakota economy to south dakota. and they do not have an oil industry. second, they do not have been compaq's. so we have the 1.9% billion. so we are quite a ways away from where they are at to. those two big identify errors are many going to the state, which was a huge of 2.$2 billion per year. thirty% of that is the infrastructure from oil and the rest is from the state. the other big area of

opportunity is half a billion dollars of higher education. it doesn't seem right to send money because then you had those administrative fees. so to look at where the money is most efficient. >> i adriatic best decisions made often made locally keeping those decisions may local that people have a voice that is one of the reasons that i choice -- shows many mate because he has been on the frontlines and understands property taxes and the impacts on the community and campaigning across every county and in north dakota, property-tax is a is different everywhere. there is not a one-size-fits-all.

>> with people pledged no tax at the state level they really tell you that property-tax is half two o pick up the difference. i remember in the '70s and '80s have time after time it was that the local level because they said we will not raise taxes but when you have irresponsibility have to pay for that. but how? i have seen it in the aisle legislature we have done our job but then the local people have to raise the taxes time after time. is that sustainable plaques i don't know of that present legislature i suspect that it isn't butted should be to pick up social services. you should have a different services based on where you

live in the state paid to pick up those responsibilities like we used to and we could if we made a commitment to do that >> moderator: this comes from our co-sponsor showing roughly 82% of care givers are providing nursing health care and most do that without any instruction or training. well-to-do to provide more resources and what about the call for the hospitals to recognize to instruct those family caregivers? >> uh topic that you bring up is very important with the broad bucket of home health care the most expensive way we can take care of these populations is to institutionalize them with long-term care.

and the most effective way if they can be safe for well cared for me know that they rather be at home so then what are the of methodologies to make sure they're safe for well cared for? there is hundreds of the new ideas of home health care to allow people to stay in their homes longer. >> we do agree there are things we can do to train family members the best will always come from someone that loves the person they care for. nelson: this seems strangely have to provide a lot that people are providing care that has not been shown and people are going back to the hospital so we do need to make sure that people are being property coached the for they go home.

there is a lot of frustration in government can they save the state money but it looks like it costs the state money it is like cutting 50 percent it will cost more than we will ever save in the caregiver is where we really need to know that we are willing to fund this because we have to do these if we stay within budget reaction after spending the money to stay within budget. >> and this brings to mind the state activities so we do not cut back on services. with across the board cuts the human services element

is something i am against. i want to look at state government to find the of money elsewhere that will not hurt to people as much and bring that to bear on those services and i see an expanded role for social services and cnn a. >> moderator: we have come to the end of the debates each candidate gets one minute. nelson: thanks for watching this and following us with the campaign. you have very difficult decision. because we are such an important critical time moving forward to make some major changes. i suspect the lifetime involved in policy following these issues and learning about state government of birth dakota. -- north dakota. during a great job as quarterback of the eagles

but he did not show up with this first time on the football field to be the starting quarterback. it was years of progress learning the game. i spent those years of practice and we need someone who knows what is going on in state government. we cannot afford not to. riske: the thing that i am concerned about the most is the lower income levels going for word and others influences coming to baird we're not paying attention to for example, the state employment pension fund but that zero interest-rate is going down is a significant component picasso i am concerned about young farmers because commodity

prices are so low we have a record number of farmers to will be entering retirement age. i will be basing those soon starting tomorrow coming up with specific proposals to put more in coming into the hens of young farmers to diversify the agricultural economy. >> moderator: takes to the public and the aarp for hosting this debate. again this is an important election i have been making payroll every two weeks and 726 years old and have had the opportunity to create thousands of great jobs. i know that is part of what we need to do then move away from pure commodity based its resources all the work

being done in with the air may and vehicles and there's lots of opportunities to appraise the future -- embrace the future in proud of those thousands of voters who believe in our message to balance the budget revitalizing the main streets so to keep our kids and grandkids year in north dakota exceptional place that it is. >> moderator: and also to our three candidates, a doug burgum, marvin nelson and mr. riske. ♪

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been in the and the importance of the 2016 election. [applause] good to see you. have all this was, cineplex it is great to be here. i am taking a political risk

but ohio it is a battleground state bet you are going down tomorrow night. [applause] politics is a team sport to. we cannot do what we do without all the type and the ever given to our cause. whether going to the house or johnson backed to the senate would each everyone and you do makes a difference. it makes all of the difference. i went to get at the heart of things today. i knowed this election has taken some very e dark turns but that is why i think it is important to take a step back and look at what this

election is about. but even with all of us of ugliness of long running debate one that keeps with the nation's founding principles like freedom and equality and another that seeks to replace them. so i'm like you to reflect on the choice of erasing right now. has fractured and as polarized as this country is coming a vast majority of americans, seven out of 10 agree on something fundamental, that our country is on the wrong path. we have a chance to start solving our country's problems and have the chance to save this country from decline of hope in and self-determination those core principles to set america apart.

we don't just decide who the leaders will be we can choose what type of country we will have for years to come up. in what we want is that allies trust they feared the america that we want to. we want the land of opportunity driven by individual spirit. you don't just live your life you lead your life you don't just get by, you get ahead to make the most of your potential. the america that we want is where work is rewarded. in america we want government to serve the people they listened to us and to tackle our problems and sometimes we put those

on a website i am told looks great on any mobile device is better.gop this is our party vision what vision do they offer the people? and that does not stand out. and with those driving forces. we are ruled by the unfeeling bureaucracy. were they twist and a lot of the constitution itself. civic that is related is

always under assault. and if given control of congress it is the kind of america she will stop at nothing to have. read made in the mold of liberal progressive is some. that really needs no introduction here in madison. [laughter] is imported on socialist europe. i used to play at the high-school one century ago part of a movement to address legitimate grievances of the people. with the patronage with good intention.

that if we enlarge the estate and stock the bureaucracy then we are all better off. and it has appealed. but did did have some appeal but it did not take long for the theory to be pulled back to central planning and organization. they became obsessive with bigger and better government. and artur late picking winners and losers. the last eight years has said one long progressive experience. if we just spend more money more rules to live by and after all that to be less

safe for secure or less prosperous. to be angry cat one dash unaccountable and less responsible with less trust. because liberal progressivism simply does not work. it preaches about this striving so we should come as no surprise here the weakest recovery since the great depression. working more hours for less. and that we are supposed to except this as normal? in mid dash high quality education in madison. it is about as tough as it has ever bent. and then to tackle your debt to keep you on the right path.

this may be the worst thing of liberal progressivism it hurts the very people it claims to protect. now more than 94 million americans who are out of work. they are not even looking for work. one item 20 are not even in the workforce. think about that. a whole generation of workers threatens to be wiped out while the borough progressive policies unless we act, what becomes of that these people? our fellow citizens? other than our modern welfare system. it is with good intentions. that technocrats would leave for a social problem but

after $1 trillion spending dozens of programs created but the poverty rates are still higher than the '70s. but the welfare system is designed to replace work, not encouraging it. how much programs or how much money are we spending? we do not adapt to your customized it just pushes you along the conveyor belt for a program to program to keep people down instead of them break free. this is what liberal progressivism is. maybe the place was nice but there was no upkeep. but nothing changes. may be those on the top

floor but then you are given no choice. then you are stuck. here is what you need for our political opponents. the left doesn't just see a continuation and they tend to make it into reality. condescending and paternalistic. lauderdale proposing? realize there's no money left for the schemes. and washington democrats with the slew of rules and the onslaught with retirement planning.

but with that massive increases. and it is a machine every distribution. looking for relief from obamacare but with washington democrats will expand obamacare. that is the america hillary clinton and the democrats want but it is not the america that we want. we want an america that values when she can customize your happy life one size fits all designs. uc in this energy the lives as millennial. the success stories every city years service is just taking off guess what?

one of the centerpieces is to crack down on the company's. this is well liberal progressivism does even in the age of diversity it encourages conformity. in with the tax cut you cannot make head to retails this is not about freeing you but there is no room to run or to grow or to fail. people are not needed there accounted and assorted. this is how you can be so casually classified people as baskets of deplorable step is hell hillary clinton says'' mack we will put a lot of coal miners and companies out of business that imperial we eat that she could just wave a wanted

to put a wall industry of workers out of work. that bill whole faith is severely backwards. this is the america that the laugh once. -- left once. they will not stand for this to hire an elected bureaucrats to do their bidding in the activist judges to rubber-stamp their designs. they're not challenge the system on the left their rigging it because liberal progressivism it is government by them not for the government. but for all those rules of government to give up the thais and responsibilities to hand it over to government to customize a solution but there is no

strength. only hubris are the arrogance to assign a week -- assume we are better off. that is the kind of america that we want. america we want is to empower them to thrive. and with the bold agenda. this is what we want to the election to be about. more ambition and less apathy. to offer the best of what liberty produces. and to have the status quo and to get people the skills they need. and instead of all this fear to secure the borders to

confront radical islamic extremism. we want our economic to live up to its potential and starts with getting government out of the way. to develop energy resources but we don't just need to peel away if the regulations. we need to make sher that we are writing the laws that we live under not those unelected bureaucrats in washington d.c.. every major regulation should come to congress for a vote before it goes into effect. that is accountability. shouldn't we live under the laws we right for ourselves? or letting the obamacare janus? we want to repeal and replace with real patient

centered solutions. and with the washington mandates. and to get the irs out of our lives to lower taxes and make the tax code's assemble you can do your taxes on the form of a postcard that is the cliff notes version dash enough to use those anymore. that is the short version. the long version the details are at better.gop we are offering an agenda. then to give people solutions this is the america that we want. not just to solve problems or kickoff the to do list that to give fellow citizens a clear choice. we'll be be positive and

inclusive for our founding principles? that is the choice before us. son feebler still making their choices. but to let the fears but here is what i want to ask you but raise your gaze now more than ever there is far more it stake in realize. every single generation of americans has left the next generation better off. this is our were the legacy. and if we do not act we did not just lose the quality of

life but wait -- but what makes america exceptional in the first place. if they give control of washington were given control of congress it will not be long before we come to the press of this but that does not have to happen. to be done with the old ways to build the america that we want. this is where you make a difference. .org is as powerful as those a ideas are, to say this is our vision. this is what we stand for. stand with us to join our cause. over the next 25 days. this is what house republicans are offering let's raise the gays and rise to the challenge thank

you for coming out today. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> i would like to think you college republicans one of the largest group in the history of the organization wisconsin madison. thanks for being here and being willing to swim against history because when i was in college was not as brave as you are. i would hell stage show it in your fine city.

but for the better parts of 13 years please feel free to stay in madison when you graduate because we need you. i have your questions and/or names i've made mispronounce and i will apologize if vance. you don't get to hold the microphone so don't grab that. we will have some video hold the microphone i ask that you stand and then we will move on me would get as many as we can.

and then to signal to meet with a follow-up question am my discretion. we are under a time crunch. >> i will come back to the stage house speaker paul ryan. [applause] >> >> ideal like we should say a duet. starting with kennedy from madison. >> aboriginal a from minneapolis. it is more liberal there then it is here.

thanks for being here. the majority of the letter deals on college campuses have conservative values. did note understand because they're not willing to listen to them so how do you recommend to spread the message of those candidates such as ron johnson wax into everything you can this man deserves reelection. number two. but to experience the same type of backlash a lot of my college years spending summers appear. when you debate somebody don't go three motion. with that comsat you take the high ground i always it courage people to go back to the basics and reacted and

understand but they try to propose. in to call a liberal more than a conservative because that means those are those core plausible celebrity freedom self-determination and constitution to understand those first. and how to characterize that in today's language and to talk about uh customization is liberty and freedom. but i think it is very important when people shout at you you will not with the shouting match nobody wants to listen to scream at each other. and these great principles

and to take the high ground. >> freedom is cool. >> jake? >> good morning. talk about the agenda but how will you continue to pursue this? >> it will not be easy. with welfare reform. this is rewriting the regulatory system separating the powers replacing obamacare so we don't have the debt crisis. this is extremely difficult in a divided government might be put this out. we work on things but this

is a big philosophical difference. that is why this stalemate is not a good option. all tax laws must in-house of representatives. did rewrite tax bills of a certain way to maximize growth in resend the bill to the senate and the referee who decides how reconsider the bill or budget bill to keep control in the and he and saffron johnson was the election a dash one dash 89 sky helps to get the budget to the president's desk. who becomes the chairman of the senate? this tells you what we're

dealing with in a divided government if we lose control of the senate. losing the senate makes it that much more difficult to put a bill on the president's desk. that is why it is so important to keep the senate as well. >> we will keep fighting for what we believe and we have to get them through all. without even being able to break up a bill. that would be more frustrating. >> kate from wisconsin? >> >> how do we articulate our message for those minorities to lower income individuals

how the policies are fair to benefit them greg. >> i spend time on that point. you have have good ideas. look at how miserable of the status quo. look at the war on poverty. we measure success by effort, not outcomes and look at what we are offering . to customize welfare benefits, making sure we create a board mobility. it is a less argument of more government control or redistribution. we can talk about how bad the status quo is because we are living under the liberal policies. what we have right now is a flavor of what they continue doing to talk about the freedom and duty of upward mobility.

to have more determination over your own life. we need people and every single person is needed to help solve the problems together i to die. but the left says washington takes all of that. to show that we care and we have better ideas but the last point especially of america they spend a lot of time to do this go to those were doing a great job to solve problems. have many are from right across the street?

three years ago there were 14 games. most of us know pulaski high school and you can imagine the violence and kids getting washed away. a local group, poverty fighters said try something else a remark cameras and more police. they had a bunch of young people who used to be in the gang who came to the schools to become mentors. to help those kids learn from their mistakes 24 albert 71 dash 24/7 mentors now the graduations are up the gains are gone editing is turnaround for academics are up in their graduated with a future. so we take this program a

local grow 98 in milwaukee now spreading it some people in dallas are doing this. that is what we believe as an extension of our philosophy to solve the problem locally. you cannot do that if you wait for washington to solve problems. this is a beautiful picture that we believe in achieving soties say it is a clear and simple idea the position of your birth is to determine your life and that is true for everybody to take responsibility in our communities that is attractive no matter what party belonging to. >> kelly from the state of georgia. >> my question is what is

your best advice for republican college students on liberal campuses with the challenges based on the upcoming election? >> have i showed you this? [laughter] you cannot do something with nothing. don't get into a personality contest rate twitter storm but what you believe and why. and stick to the constitution. you have to have the agenda. but what we really want to have so mayor and the right to do a. that is scott walker at the state legislature. here are the problems the result is proving themselves .

that is what i say. don't walk yourself into a bizarre personality contests but the idea contest. >> john from milwaukee. >> south side. what are the main goals for the upcoming legislative session. >> said that i promised. [laughter] but the way that i would run the budget committee my goal of the upcoming session is to work on the economy to get the budget under control i am worried about the of

hobbling out of the military to reform those structural drivers and the fiscal space. that means we have to fix the military or we will have problems soon. our tax code is the worst system in the industrialized world. and eac countryside canada taxing all their businesses by 15%. china at 25. our corporations are taxed at a successful small business that is nine out of 10. they are as high as 44.6 that kills american competitiveness. we have these goofy international tax laws they

cannot bring that back without reinvesting without a consequence one study says 1.7 million new jobs and addington% to the economy. first in navigate is tax reform with the deficit under control and giving the of military what we need. poverty in welfare, military , the rest of this agenda to get this economy going. to have good options in jobs and wages and then working on the people stopped in poverty in this poverty trap to get into the economy if we do that we would get those revenues that we need at the federal level to reassert the powers in the constitution that is a critical goal.

>> where you from? >> minnesota. >> reciprocity. >> you know what this is? that is a minnesota vikings super bowl ring. [laughter] [applause] >> if hillary gets the of presidency what is a plan to deal with the skyrocketing cost of health care? >> this will be a real problem. the actuaries declare of the current state of health care death spiral into joined the

exchange the premiums have to go up and up united health care, are you from minneapolis? and they could not make obamacare work. with all of these sanctuaries blue cross blue shield they said it is to years ahead of schedule meaning that they saw this coming is that it would not happen next year but with much higher premiums and deductibles because of notes choices 31% of counties in america next year will be even worse so we have a plan for this. what i want to do in this budget is an abeyance a

solution with a failing system with a real patient disinterred health care. where people can have affordable health care rates , more choices, more freedom in the word prices and to do that with the aid that we need for people to get insurance, and had a system for those who get sick can have affordable care. all of these about the government takeover. we can see how to do this. this lot is failing, it is not working and here is a solution. lower-cost more quality health care better access for everybody and deal with the legitimate problem. if you get breast cancer in

your middle '40's you don't want to go to the poorhouse for your health care we can do this without a government takeover can be nice to keep the senate and that will be a massive fight because they want the double down the government health care that want more choices they want the government to run that all. when you say this is a right like they claim health care is now that means it decides for itself they can tell you where or how or why to exercise that right that is every year going with health care right now. to get it to the government isn't working so my goal is to fix all this go to

better.gop to see what it looks like. >> that is how we reassigned the words one thing is not a choice. one last person. i did not deliberately just pick from the effort row. >> of the larger electorate everything that they have done greg. >> what i decided to do after getting this job, find the common ground where we agree. we had a real infrastructure problem. and from the mid-90s so now we have a long term highway

bill to get people back to work. we had in education problem. have you heard of, and pour or no child left behind? or comment core? and give back control to the states. the biggest devolution of power in 25 years said trade laws for not working like they should other countries taking advantage of lack of enforcement and basically each feeding on their own agreements we rewrote the customs laws to actually enforce the trade bloc is to hold others to account. we fix that for the first time in 40 years. where farmers and small businesses because they have

this unpredictability of the tax code. . . from the american people to put these solutions in place in 2017 and get our country back on the right track a country where seven out of 10 americans think we are on the wrong track. that is what we are trying to do right now that's what i would encourage you to make sure that other people your friends or colleagues, your classmates, make sure they know what it is

we are talking about what it is we believe in what it is we are proposing. turn the kiosk and get on better.g.o.p. and then make up your mind. >> thanks everyone for coming out. great questions, i appreciate it and one more thing if i may add you actually have to win elections to get any of this stuff done. you need to know that, right? been elections are november 8 and early voting is already happening because i have are to cast mine. >> thank you very much. thanks everybody. appreciate it. [applause] where are you from?

former president bill clinton spoke about his wife's achievement during a campaign rally in cincinnati, ohio on friday. he outlined her plans to create jobs, improve trade and make college more affordable. ♪ ♪ [applause] [applause] >> hello cincinnati! [applause] let's give him another hand. he did a good job, didn't he? i want to thank all the folks on the program and thank you democratic party chairman. thank you denise and good luck to you in this election. and thank you alicia who has led

ohio in believing, in believing that more people should vote, not fewer. [applause] you ought to give this guy at hand. this guy has had a very bad week so let's try to make him feel better. [applause] make him feel better. [applause] [chanting] wait, wait, wait. what you are saying is a microcosm of what this campaign is all about. you have got one person who is a master at rubbing salt in people's wounds, doesn't pay taxes, doesn't need a good tribute to his own family charity, doesn't pay as

contractors, takes advantage of people who go to trump u and don't get anything except trump. he's really good at making people mad. the fundamental decision you have to make in the whole election is how do you feel about america and where we are going and if you think everything is going to hell in a handbasket than maybe you want to have somebody who is great at distracting and demonizing those who are different. but if you think that our best days are still ahead, if you think we are fortunate because with all the problems we have got, we have too much income stagnation and too much income inequality, too much tension but then many of our communities, we have unaddressed mental health and drug addiction needs.

all of our challenges, we are still outperforming every other big economy on earth. we still have the youngest most diverse workforce in the world of any big country. [applause] we still have the most productive workforce in manufacturing in the world than we can get a lot of those jobs back. it just depends on what you think. give him a hand. i'm telling you, don't treat them -- wait, wait. if you want to know what this is about turn on your tv when you get home tonight and look what president obama said on television about it. so anyway, it depends on what you think.

really, if you believe that you should not vote for hillary. and if you believe that america's best days are behind us, i believe america's days are ahead of us. [applause] we just had the 79th month in a row where we had more jobs than the previous month. [applause] even when i was president i gave you balance budgets and surpluses. even then we didn't have 79 months of job growth. i'm telling you we are taking off and it all depends on our attitude. are we thinking about the future or looking back? do we want to go back to trickle-down economics? that is one of the issues of the campaign.

raul bad about the establishment, the truth is hillary wants to go forward to invest and grow this economy from the bottom up. her opponent wants to go backwards and cut taxes on millionaires, billionaires and big corporations where they move jobs and people and you have just got to decide what you want. you can't pretend. there is not a choice here, it's clear and it will affect your lives. now i am going to commit something that is really in this election. i'd like to talk about what this election means to you and your future and how we are all going to live. here is what i think. you might win an election distracting people, dividing the country and demonizing your opponent but after you get there if that's what you do you want do anything good for anybody and

we won't be better off. on the other hand, if you decide to reject that and to concentrate on what we can do good instead of distracting people, to cooperate instead of dividing and to create opportunities for everybody to rise together because we are stronger together, america will be a whole lot better off. this is a very straightforward choice. there's only one person you can vote for who has got a plan to create more than 10 million jobs by modernizing our infrastructure. not just roads and bridges and ports and airports but all the construction workers over there. look at that old building. one of the things my foundation did for taxpayers was to convince the public employee

unions to put 16 million dollars aside from their pension fund for a good rate of return to invest in infrastructure putting people to work in the private sector constructed union. we allocated $12.5 billion of that and only got 100,000 jobs out of it. no government action. i just got back from two days in iowa and the secretary of agriculture was the governor of iowa. he's the most underrated person the president's cabinet because he never asks for any credit. he just shows up at work and get something good but he took off these programs over the years a little bit of money here and a little bit there and put all together in the agriculture department has created 250,000 jobs in small towns in rural areas in america to give people their chance to be part of our shared future. [applause] i'm telling you something when you reach a certain age all you

care about is whether people are better off and whether we are coming coming together instead of tearing each other apart. i don't care what anybody tells you. and we just got this. what it is we are about, what kind of people we are. and whether we really believe we are stronger together. and whether we really believe it matters. it does matter. i have now spent half my life trying to help somebody find a job, start a business, get health care and education for their kids and solve problems in the community so we can all go forward together. i know wherever people are working together good things are happening. in america and all over the world. wherever they spend all their time on the acid pouring we have been put through, good things are not happening. i don't think you should be

surprised that you ought to feel bad for those people because if you pour acid down peoples throats every single day for your to some of us are going to come back out. you can't get deaden the spirit and poison the mind. none the hard without having some consequences but it won't be good. nobody's going to be doing anything for anybody else. so first we need a modern infrastructure program and it's not just -- not just roads and bridges and airports, it's things like that building and it's things like recognizing flint michigan is not the only place this country where children have elevated lead levels in their blood. you just think about it. if we ripped up all those give all of our kids a healthy future and create an enormous number of

dead high-paying jobs doing that work. i will give you another example. every single day in america somewhere between three and 5 million schoolchildren are given a homework assignment that requires them to get on the internet and they can't do it. why? because here we are in 2016 a device that was born in america, the internet, it's not available to people because they don't have rock band coverage where they live. if you did that you could create millions of opportunities for business growth in places that have been left out and left behind and all those kids would do their homework and they'd have a better chance in the future. [applause] i will give you another example. that directly relates to ohio's capacity over the long run to generate new manufacturing jobs. i just spent two days on a bus

in iowa, and i was traveling around in and some of you probably know this but iowa has the biggest base load capacity of its electricity in the wind of any state in america. and guess what? they pay a penalty for leading the fight against the worst consequences of the climate changing? no, they also have the lowest electric. in america because once you build those things that power is free. [applause] and that is a part of our future too. so that's the first thing. the second thing is we have to get back into small business again. hillary supports the dodd-frank law which the president signed which keeps wall street from ever will wrecking main street again.

not a big choice. her opponent has promised to repeal it which is just what they want. you tell me who the establishment candidate is. she wants to keep it and he wants to repeal it. however she does want to make more money available to small businesses make sure banks don't have to spend as much money processing alone for $50,000 as they do one for 50 million. we have got to get back to small business again. it's two-thirds of our new job growth. [applause] and the third thing we have to do is to make sure we are investing in all of our communities. paul ryan -- paul ryan. kim ryan, paul ryan has his own problems. i feel bad for him. [applause] poor man he has a load to lug

around now but tim ryan your congressman is the democratic cochair of the bipartisan manufacturing caucus. your senator sherrod brown knows more about manufacturing in trade than probably anybody in the senate. [applause] they have worked hard for hillary because they know she has got a good program to bring jobs back to america and she has the right idea on trade. we are only 4% of the world's population. we have to sell something to somebody else. but she wants to make two big changes. one is realize that for other countries the negotiations don't stop when the deal is signed. you have got to enforce these deals. when i left office in cut enforcement by 75%.

hillary wants to take currency manipulation other and other things that are never going to be in a trade deal but can keep you from having fair access and the third thing she wants to do is to make sure that we don't allow people to get the tax benefits doing business in this country when they are ripping american workers and communities often i will give you two examples. [applause] i just came out the other day and her opponent builds a building with chinese steel being sold through dummy corporations so he wouldn't have to fess up to where came from when their head already been a determination that this steel was illegal to be sold in america because it was being sold below the cost of production even in china. the other one is what happened to carrier air-conditioning in

indiana where they drew 2100 people and their families under the bus. they were making not air-conditioning but furnaces. they were making $2.9 billion. the prophet margin on each furnace was going up. it was booming and it was everything you'd want in a company but their richest shareholders said we want more money right now. it will drive the stock market price up and we want our money in a year and a day. this is kind of complicated. this is a big part of our problem in america. so if the richest shareholders of the company say we don't care about the workers, we don't care about the communities, we do need to care about the customers and what's good for them in the long run. all we care about is if we take their money out in a year. that is terrible news for

long-term health of the american economy. so hillary says if somebody does what they did and let me say the union said you were only going to save $65 million. we will re-organize the work schedule and save you the exact same amount of money and they said no we want to break with the union so we can lose this company and take the money away. this is a -- the financial tail was wagging the economic dog and when that happens only the tail was going to be happy. and this is a huge national problem. hillary says that the company does that come if they leave us when they are making money just to force all the prophets into one year with no concern or what it does to the business, the customer and the workers or their communities than they should lose every last red cent that they ever got from the state, local or national

government. [applause] they should not be able to bring their products about to the american market. [applause] and they definitely shouldn't get a tax cut. [applause] but, he said i do want to cut taxes for american businesses who share their prophets fairly with their workers or retrain their workers so they can be more productive and more valuable and two will invest their money in areas in america that have been left out and left a hind where there haven't been enough new jobs in the last 10 years. those people should be rewarded with lower taxes. [applause] now, like i said i've been doing this a long time. i promise you it will work way better than going back to trickle-down economics and it will spread economic opportunity across the country so we can all

grow together. and you've got to make sure everybody can participate. we have to rethink skills training this country. a lot of people don't need four-year college degrees to get good jobs if they get proper training. she wants the fund that and reward it. [applause] we have to make college affordable for everybody and the best thing, talk about an example of cooperation, the best thing that happens is the democratic convention was that she and bernie sanders got together and they merged their planning came up with one that was better than either one of them had before. [applause] and here is how it works. this is a really big deal. two people ran against each other, have a close race and what we really care about is making college available to everybody so they did the following things.

one, free tuition for anybody in community college. two, free tuition for everybody in public institutions of higher education up to $125,000 in family income. that's 25% of them in debt-free graduation for people in private colleges with reasonable tuition and high graduation rates and it's all public knowledge so that everybody can get out all right. and then something can concern to read in this audience what debt that is always -- already been run up? the average college debt in america is about $30,000. that's the average but people that have gone to law school or architectural school or medical school, some of them owe 100, 10050, $200,000. here's the plan. first, we have got to end the practice of college loans as the

only loans in america you cannot refinance. that is wrong. [applause] i don't know how many people i've had this conversation with but not so long ago i was talking to a woman i been doing business with for a long time and they knew she had a son who just graduated from one of new york state's colleges and she was proud of him. i said how is your boy doing and she said the graduate with great grades and i know he's doing a great job. does he have any debt? she said oh yeah quite a bit. what is the interest rate? 9%. i said do you have a mortgage? she said of course i do. i said heavy refinance? she said absolutely. what what is a church is draped? under 4%. let me just ask you something. america supposed to be the country that stays in the future business. we are supposedly the world in creating the opportunity of tomorrow.

we are supposed to be a place of opportunity for everybody who work hard and play by the rules no matter where you come from, what your religion is, what your orientation is, doesn't matter. you have got to stay in a future business. how can you justify charging young people at the beginning of their life interest rates on college debt more than twice as high as what their parents are paying on home mortgages? [applause] and you just let everybody refinance the current. , more than 20 million young millennials would save an average of more than $2000 those that owe more would save a lot more than that. then she proposes to let everybody turn their college debt into a mortgage like instrument and never have to pay more interest on their income a month to pay it off no matter how much they owe. and if they do any kind of

public service work, if they do americorps or something like that they can get it forgiven in a few years. they do any kind of public service work they don't have to pay anything after 10 years. nobody has to pay anything after 20 and not a single month will you ever have to pay no matter what you owe. in addition to that think about that. that means everybody can get a credit rating. if young people who have college debt want to start a small business if they otherwise qualified she would extend repayment of a college loan for three full years while you get the business up and going. [applause] i am not a young -- i met a young man in iowa couple of days ago in his early 20s, to $20,000 started a business and basically figured out how to do

better on all professional task. how to get into law school, architecture school come medical school and then how to pass the board for nursing school medical school. the average person between one and $2000 to get ready for these tests, they have young people from all these backgrounds. they put together a business. and guess what? he started the business with $20,000 and they have got 50 employees now. that is where most of america's new jobs have always come from. [applause] that is the future of this country. they deserve the right to be able to pay their college loans off and have access to capital and credit. you just have to forgive me. i think that's a big part of what this election is about. we have got to grow this economy with more high-paying jobs and more people qualified for them and more upward mobility.

that is what's fueling the road rage on this or this campaign is too many people get up in the morning and look in the mirror and say everyone of my tomorrows is going to be like yesterday. i wanted to believe it's going to be better. i've spent my life doing it. you have got to vote for the right kind of policies and the right kind of leader. [applause] there are two things that could keep america from rising together again. one is political gridlock in washington fueled by the kind of animosity we see on the streets in this election and the other is trouble abroad. the turmoil that you all know about but also slow economic growth. there's only one person who has really good ideas, a proven record of breaking gridlock and

she doesn't take it personally. she knows this is the way they do business and she will never close the door. everything she has accomplished as first lady, as a senator from new york, says secretary of state every single solitary thing she was able to get republicans to join democrats in supporting her and that's what you need a president to do. we have got to do that. [applause] and when she left office as secretary of state the approval of the united states on every continent africa, asia, latin america and europe every continent was 20 points higher than it was when she took office because they believe she had their backs and she wanted a peaceful inclusive future for the world. [applause] and she is literally the best change maker i have ever known. we just celebrated our 41st

anniversary. [applause] when i met her in law schools by the time we got out of law school she had her get down to south carolina to figure out how to get african-american teenagers, some as young as 13, out of adult jail. literally their whole future was wiped away. she had arctic onto south texas to register mexican-americans who for generations have been systematically shut out of the political system. she started the first legal aid clinic we ever had in the mountains in northwest arkansas for people in that demographic group i grew up in. i was the first person in my family to ever go to college. my kinfolk were hard-working people and they couldn't afford lawyers. they deserve that. and before you know it she also

went to alabama posting and -- to prove that the so-called academies were illegally claiming federal tax credit for what they said was a good private school which was nothing more than a public school and they lost a tax credit. she is always been able to get something done that made it soon. [applause] she oversaw our efforts for gradeschool standards in arkansas and when she made the presentation a cattle farmer who is the head of our education committee said i think we elected the wrong one. when i ran for president we have the highest performing schools in the region and demand that a previously said we had the worst school system in the country said we had one of the two most improved.

you want somebody, i will say this for opponent in the second debate maybe it was an error but he stated one totally true fact. he said she will never quit and she will never quit on america and she will never quit on you. [applause] so art candidate, here's the question is if it ain't wrote don't fix fix it and it's easy o guarantee the long-term financial stability of social security. 48% of american seniors are kept out of poverty because of it. [applause]

one final thing that's important to a lot of your families. if you think the health care laws should be repealed, she is not your candidate. she thinks it's a good thing that 25 million more americans have health care. [applause] she thinks it's a good thing that 100% of us now, believe me, when you were young it's hard to imagine this. when you are my age, not a week goes by that i don't have to say goodbye to somebody i love. it's part of the rhythm of life. we all accept it. because of that we have to be grateful for every day is a new opportunity for each new day but no one knows. it's done a world of good not allowing anybody to lose their insurance because of a pre-existing condition that there are problems. the co-pay in the dockable's are still going up.

the prescription drugs are too expensive for everybody not covered by medicare programs that could keep them cheaper and people having the toughest time at those that make too much, either small businesses to get those subsidies. why? because they don't belong to big corporations. their employers don't have a lot of bargaining power and they are easy pickings for higher rates. there's only one person who said let's don't get rid of what's good about that law. let's pick this -- let's fix the problem. here's how we would get the co-pay down here's how we will make drugs more affordable and we will have a public auctions of those people and small businesses in his individual policies are little above the subsidy. will get affordable health care. the big deal. [applause] now look folks, i know, i always

get tickled in these debates. the dow meters go up and landed singer on somebody else but this is your life. this is the kind of stuff is going to shape the country lived in the future you have and what young people have to look forward to. we are going to grow together or not. you have got a choice. anger or answers. you have got a choice, resentment or empowerment. [applause] you have got a choice, you have got a choice. conflict or cooperation and you have the choice. look around this crowd. you have got a choice. are you going to relate to people not just beyond our borders but within our country through walls and bridges? here is a copy of the hamilton county democratic ballot.

it looks like the united nations [applause] the other day i was in eastern ohio doing a bus trip for hillary and an african-american came up to me and i was virtually in tears. he told me who he was and he said that's not what's important mr. president. he said what is important to me is that i am the grandson of luther black of hope, arkansas, where i was born. and where the first business i was ever in was my granddad's little grocery store across the street from a cemetery behind which lived most of the african-americans.

most of my granddad's customers were african-americans. his position was straightforward. you are working hard and doing the best you can and taking care of your kids you have got a right to feed them. keep in mind this was a long time ago. there were no food stamps. and he said my grandfather told me that your grandfather was a wonderful man because whenever he came in and he hadn't been paid yet come he didn't notice it paid on a regular basis. he said luther take whatever you need for your family. we have got to get that back in america. when somebody looks you in the eye you have to be able to trust them again. you have to be able to believe them again. we have to say look, we don't care what your religion is, this tirade against the gold star family because a muslim mother couldn't talk at the democratic

convention after that young man lay down his life for this country was a disgrace. let me tell you something, if it had been my child i couldn't have talks at the convention. could you? i couldn't believe the father could do it. we have got to stop this. this is bad for us. and it's. do you want to prevent these episodic instances of terror like in san bernardino or what about orlando where the guy wasn't in touch with anybody? he said i was inspired by all these killings. would you like to support the people around the world who agree with us, who hate what isis is doing and help them roll back the tide? if that's what you want we have got to have the help of american

muslims who love freedom and despise terror and belief in this country. [applause] now look, this has been a heavy election. the other day i called a buddy of mine and he's the best of when my i've ever heard. i called him and i said you know i need to lighten this up. give me a good one-liner and i mean he didn't miss a beat. he said if you don't want a guy driving a truck off a cliff don't give him the keys. [laughter] [applause] so here is what i want to say to you. i want you to give her the keys. [applause] because if you give her the keys, she will open up the back

of the truck and put every american on board no matter who they voted for her. she will go to appalachia in give those coalminers in a future and their children a brighter tomorrow. she will go everywhere and take us all and drive that truck to the top of the new mountain and we will love where we come out. thank you and god bless you. [applause] [applause] ♪ [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪

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pole strategist and president ceo of the tarrance group to talk about the polling and information leading to the final weeks of the campaign. >> i'm glad to be here. >> what is the polling telling you these days qwest mark. >> this is the george washington university poll since we've done since 1991 and we do it with democratic pollsters. h it does have a purely partisan, but i would say bipartisan nature of it. we keep each each other honest in terms what we are looking at. this poll shows much of what we are seeing out there. i think there is a lot of attention to jumps in the polls most of the jumps are within the margin. both of these candidates are not the best candidates in the world when you look at the favorable, unfavorable. we looked at trump's favorable growing from 58% in the last pole to 61%. hillary went from 54 down to 53. both of these candidates have been stuck in this over 50% unfavorable towards them. that is is a story in terms ofe

presidential campaigns. >> it holds the ballot within a range. i think you'll see polls now with a jumper hillary based on what happened a week ago. and that was what happened with donald trump of the tape. and now it's coming back to the middle if you will. we had this poll at 39% for trump, 47% for hillary. i actually think it is going to settle down to about five or six points. the average in politics is her having a lead of 5.5%. i think that is probably where the natural state of the races going in the final week. >> but donald trump, your poll ensure that when you initially did this in 2016 was 43 percent, it went down to 40, then 39, those decreasing numbers leading just weeks before those decreasing numbers leading just weeks before election day is not a good sign? >> again you see him working within range. if you look at the ballot over the last four months hillary --

trump has had a high of 40.8% and a low of 35.8.of hillary has a high of 44.9 which is where she is average right now. she. she has had a low of 38.8. they both have a window where they're bouncing around. if if you look at the average of both poles.d i think it is being held down by the on favorables. one of the things we have seen growth over the last year, they started out with the 55% unfavorable rating but what is been growing as strongly unfavorable. if you look at donald trumpe right now is strongly a i wan favorable is that 53%. hillary's strongly unfavorable is that 46%. the negatives are very much in, people get excited about the blows back and forth week after week but the numbers are so big

it limits how much it is going to move. >> when you take sampling, who are you talking to and how many are you talking to and how recent, when was the last set o: questions taking place? >> we are in the field last saturday through thursday night. one of the things we did see in the poll on saturday and sundayt there is a huge jump ino days hillary's direction actually for those two days, about 400 of the 1000 sample she was ahead by ten points. the generic ballot jumped from three points down to 12 points. by the end of the week it had come back to a points in the generic was at five-point deficit. so the sampling, this is when y you get in the public polls versus the public or private polls, think there's been a problem in recent years. we.e. we saw it in 2012 in the es