call you for letting me in. guest: congratulations, 85 years old, i'm glad that you continue to be involved. twoed, what you talk about, things i hear often. one, as mentioned in the earlier consistentlyhave a for about 15 years, somewhere in 60% or more hood of saying the country is in the wrong direction and this has negative down spin for america for a long period of time. secondly feel their ople children will not be better off. at the majority of this. talk about the trump campaign. honest, his message at the beginning had great resonance was similar to bernie sanders.

off into this you nal food fight, what find is he's sort of left his gotten away from it. it is a concern. going we get the country again? how do we move things and the ountry very much unhappy and body our future and has a lot to do with our children, our grandchildren and bread and butter issues. eric, supporter of hillary clinton in compton, california. caller: good morning. thank you for giving me this opportunity.

like that in rk america. guest: certainly. nybody who believes in democracy understands the udicial powers and the congressional role and ortunately i think that this campaign has veered very very much veered individualsstion of and presidential elections have that. but, it is obviously a much and vibrant system and we will come out of this as we always have. some questions asked from the poll about being honest and

also asked ard, about having american interest on trade, dealing with the changing country for the better. the numbers are there. people are hat saying and responding to topics with the dannedidate. it tells you, it has to do with republican and democratic points of view. republicans and donald trump of the ahead in most foreign policy issues that have to do with temperament and has with experience, hillary clinton is ahead on that. democrats tend to do better in terms ofhealthcare, in issues that concern women, those aren't necessarily surprising, again, i think this campaign is being decided less on the terms ofd much more in the personality. michigan, bryan, scott, third-party supporter.

next. you are caller: yeah, good morning. george h.w. bush, in a radio announcement says america eeds to understand there will be a new world order. i thought he was talking about fast-forward and i believe obama is calling it the is al integration, which mainly what we're talking about, o go to the extreme as open borders. of isn't america more aware what both sides of the isle of talking about and even confuse more when you say immigration? haven't had an honest

conversation of the path that we're actually on over the past few decades and what we're looking to do, it looks like as we in the global integration is basically in the end sometime in the future we're really not going to have borders, are we, sir? will we have borders? this is a conversation that be had. i think if you did the polling, which is your an honest conversation of the path that we're actually on over the past few decades and what we're bailiwick, if you have americans right now, would concept, open border i think overwhelmingly the no.wer would be guest: interesting on immigration and we have asked a nbc f questions on the "wall street journal" poll and american public is in favor of immigration, what they aren't in favor of is exactly what the caller said, not in favor of borders, but do they want to have y way immigration? strength of the country, it is our founding principles, and so is very much there, which go-to is probably the bigger lot ion, we don't get to a of issues we need to that are exceptionally important. is a critical and important issue and one that is

scant rely gotten attention in this election. immigration has been discussed, the american ge, public doesn't agree with donald trump in terms of building a don't believe it will happen. host: that is our top issue for that you poll? guest: what i call it is fear election, it is scare election, national ecurity and security o. economic security, it is jobs and below jobs, it is really the ability to plan for the future, the ability to feel paycheck're less than a away from destitute and people way. that nd on issues that i call military security, we're very concerned about isis, very oncerned about our role in how of world affairs and of security in

terms of the middle east, those are the things driving this election, but it is the economy first and foremost and if i were in donald trump's camp, i would tell you that it amazes me and me that hasn't been his one single message throughout the poll. had the lead on that issue, even when his campaign is not doing well, he's ahead by a point or two when the american public says who is best on the economy. host: peggy from ohio. thanks for waiting. you're a supporter of donald trump. you are on with peter hart. morning. caller: hi. i was wanting to tell you about, been to two donald trump rallies, one in mason, ohio and cincinnati, ohio. and you know, donald trump they do not answer polls, especially nbc polls. i work in a grocery store in wouldn't o, and you believe the customers that are donald trump supporters.

i'd say out of 10 people that through the line, eight are donald trump supporters there is majority going on and post pollsters don't recognize this about people. when you go to a donald trump say it is try to old, white people. go to a donald trump rally and i took my grandson to one, he's 11 years old, and they 10 to 80 years old. you see all kinds of them, you you lack, you see white, see hispanic and i've never rowdiness at any donald trump rally that i've you to and i just want know that if you think that all supporters are answering your polls, you are badly mistaken because i know a absolutely won't answer polls because they do they're crooked, just like this man from --

host: okay. thank you. mr. hart? guest: peggy, thank you. and congratulations, i'm glad rally, because again participation and bringing your to dren or grandchildren rallies are equally important. ll i can tell you is that serious effort a people to answer the polls and everything that we've seen is we get participation on both sides. but go to the question you were talking about, i continuing is an important one. were concerned about the same thing. just this poll we completed, we said, do you have people ly, friends or who work with or have expressed concerns about for g who they support president because they worry for

president because they worry what others might think? and what we found is 40% of americans said, yes, i think -- i know such a person. said, yes, if they were hillary clinton, 13% said, donald trump and some said both clinton and trump and others they are n't know who supporting. so indeed, we worry about this, true opinions, where people are es, coming from? we find out, yes, there are hidden vote and we'll look for that, but indeed, we think we get a cross-section of america. host: discount this idea of large rallies and playing it out to voter participation. do you see those connections? i think to be perfectly honest, large rallies ell you something about the enthusiasm. as peggy just showed us in ohio, people are there and care desperately and are deeply but indeed, whether it is 25,000 or 8000.

very small segment of americans and we know donald a vigorous group of people who are behind him and polls.ll be at the host: last call for the guest, third-party supporter. this is john. john, good morning. want to address what i just said, which is not why i called. said, she voted for ted cruz because she didn't want to her hand for donald trump. she didn't want to be seen to do that. guest: yep. what i wanted to address, people talk about record.track you can either have no track record or you could have a bad as former vet nd and combat situation, i can tell i do not want a war hawk like hillary clinton, where has been more isolationist.

hands jill stein voter, down. i was a bernie sanders supporter. when i look at how they will ppa, and have that lead o a revised version of tpp, which i'm certain hillary will support, i'm sorry, you look at track records of the woman minorities thugs. i can't vote for either of them. i voted for hillary, jill stein will make me proud to vote for. voted for hillary, i can't trump, u, if i voted for i would want to throw up. host: okay, that is what we're this election. guest: there is a portion of the can't ate who say, i support either clinton or trump and looking desperately for most people are saying the race comes down to be the next o will president and prefer to

participate in that way. polls ow many more between now and election date? guest: that is a state secret, have a poll itely on the final weekend. long-time r hart, democratic pollster and a force

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shifts the cost to the state level. it doesn't save taxpayers anything. that's why she doesn't get it. she never paid property taxes, maybe that's why. >> yes, thank you. this concerns college affordability. the total amount of student debt in this country stands at 1.3 trillion with a t. the average student borrow for the class of 2016 was in debt to the tune of $37,000. that was a 6% increase and what would you do to make colleges more affordable for families

that are struggling pay for their sons or daughters' education? >> the one thing that has happened with the student debt has been the greater availability of student lending and, you know, the federal government took over student lending and the problem has only gotten worst. a couple of things that we have to do. number one, colleges need to be more forthright with students and parents as to what's the prospect of getting a job when you have a degree from this institution. right now i don't think people really understand the economic dynamic that's at work. i also think that the bottom line is that we have allowed too many students to take an debt unwisely and this is why you have this explosion of student loan debt, the easy availability of federal lending, the failure of colleges to properly inform

students and parents as to what are the prospects of repaying this debt and we have to be more forthcoming and attempt i have -- attemptive and we have to make sure we focus vocational training as well and there are students who do much better to go to vocational school rather than getting a four-year degree that's not going to give them a job when they get out so that they can pay off their loan. >> 45 seconds. >> i hear about this every day. i hear about it from students, i hear about it from grandparents who are worried about their grandchildren and are trying to pitch in and it's really holding back our entire economy because it's a debt like a mill stone around people's necks. look, we have to support our public colleges and universities. we also have to make sure that the for-profit colleges don't

continue to be able to be as abusive as they have been. they see a pot of money and they're going after it any way they can and, you know, this is something that's extremely important. we also have to support the gi bill for veterans. we have tens of thousands of veterans throughout our district and it's really important to support their getting the chance to go to college too. >> sticking with education theme, the national common core learning standards have been controversial. parents have had their children boycott the tests associated with common core. do you think common core should be scrapped or reform and what is the federal government's role in education? it's traditionally been a local and state issue, right? >> i think common core should be scrapped. i believe in standards but common core at its root hasn't worked and hasn't worked for some fundamental reasons. it's kind of long with high stakes testing from the very

beginning. my first job out of college was a special-ed teacher's aide in a small rural classroom. i was working -- one of the kids that i was working was an 8-year-old who had been through five foster homes and he told me he had no imagination and he wasn't smart and i worked with him in the classroom and the classroom teacher worked with him and eventually by him discovering that he could write stories himself, he started really doing well in math because that gave him confidence in another area, but this is true for all kids. kids -- every child is an individual. my opponent's big -- one of the big 500,000 donor that is gave to super pac, paul is one of the big pushers to high-stakes testing but from the premise

that every child is different, honestly, every school district is different. that's where we start. we should have priority on music, arts, sports, social work and understanding that students are rather unique individuals that can become the best adults that they can be. >> i don't support common core, the problem here that the federal government unduly involved themselves. education k-12 should a state and local function and the bottom line is that -- i am really amazed that is ms. teach outgoes on baseless attacks. the fact is that hudson river is so much cleaner than generations ago, much cleaner 40 years ago

and the main pollution is combined sewer. i did not support it when they were threatening to rhesus pend pcb's to have them float down the hudson river to the district that i represent. everyone was opposed to that approach in the late 1990's. ms. teachout doesn't tell the truth. she's trying to sell with false arguments. >> zach lewis on facebook has a question about infrastructure which he terms crumbling. amtrak he writes is an expense i have railroad system where half of the district lacks inadequate public options and the rest of the country invested in improvements, what are you going to do to improve infrastructure

in the 19th district? >> one of the main things that we have to do is expedite the planning and approval process for projects. we now have a project approval process both at state level and national level that is too long, it's too cumbersome and too expensive. they need to build a third tunnel to connect new jersey and new york. the fact is the approval process will probably take eight or nine years to do that. they built in the great depression the empire state building at 11 months, today you couldn't even get through the approval process in twice the time to build a building like that. we have to have much more finite approval process. it took 15 years to get through secret process, state environmental quality review. if we want to expedite projects and move them along, you have to have a much more delineated

process and infrastructure is vitally important in our state and country. you sigh crumbling infrastructure. i support that. i think it's critical to local communities. it's imperative for businesses that they have a safe and reliable transportation infrastructure and as someone who takes amtrak to new york frequently, i understand the need for improved rail service in the state. >> 45-second rebuttal for ms. teachout. >> we need to invest in infrastructure now. it's in emergency levels. that means investing in bridges, that means investing in water infrastructure. that means the federal government investing in an infrastructure bank which would support local projects and actually infrastructure is really important for independent businesses, having functioning,

being able to trust your water, roadways and bridges is really important for open-market economy which is what i support. i do want to briefly address but i guess i don't have time some of the claims that john made earlier. >> our next question goes to mr. mahoney. >> this is on manner. vt senator bernie sanders who has endorsed you said during the primary debates that he believes that marijuana prohibition should end in this country. that it should not be a crime to have marijuana on your person, et cetera, some states have relaxed their marijuana laws already leaving a patch-work quilt across the country. it's not a consistent approach to this issue. do you support marijuana legalization at the federal level. >> i think marijuana should be regulated like alcohol and thanks for asking the question about drugs, thoughs, the issue

that lies throughout our district is what to do about the heroin crisis. and -- >> we are going to get to that. [laughter] >> we have to stop treating addiction like a crime. there are different issues. so to answer your question directly, that's the direction i think we should go and then to address the sort of larger issue of heroin, you know, the overdoes deaths are up three times in the last 16 years. i was talking to a father whose son came to him asking for saying, i'm ready for treatment, i'm ready for treatment. he spent a week on the phone with insurance companies looking for a bed, couldn't get it. his son relapsed and has since overdosed. i think there's great leadership

on this and senator has been a wonderful supporter of mine. she endorsed me early and great advocate of this. but i also think it's important to support some of the local efforts, the police chief, other efforts that really recognize that we have to approach this with compassion if we are going to address the crisis. >> 45 seconds. >> on marijuana i think we should wait and see what the results are of the experiments going on in places like colorado before we rush in at the federal level. on heroin and opioid abuse i have layed out a plan of education treatment and enforcement that, i think, is vital and also raises the question in my mind. we heard of the recent issue with the epipen and mylan. what we need to do at the federal level approve process

because a company like denmark, germany where the standards are the same as ours we allow the drugs more free availability and access here. there's a danish version of the epipen that can be purchased for $75. competition will lower costs. >> thank you very much. we are going to try to see if we can get two more questions in. your question is for mr. faso. >> it's on gun control. you say you close gun show loophole and also preventing people on the terrorist, no-fly list? >> i'm not in favor of people on the no-fly list, on the terror watch list from buying guns. i want to make sure, however, if someone is improperly placed on the watch list as senator teddy kennedy was years ago and took the force of santorial to get him off the list, the issue becomes, yes, terrorists should

not be able to purchase firearms, but we have to have a due process protection so that someone, an innocent citizen who is improperly placed on that list is -- has a due process right to be able to get themselves off that list on an expeditious basis. on the generally i'm a supporter of the second amendment. many of the efforts of my opponent of the safe act. it has done nothing to improve safety. major problem with crime and gun violence are handguns. handguns restrictively regulated as they should be and the bottom loin is that the new laws on the law abiding people are not by definition going to improve our ability to combat the violent criminals who would use guns in the commission of a crime so i think the bottom line here is these efforts are going to fail because they're targeted at the wrong people, the law-abiding

people rather than the criminal. >> 45 seconds for ms. teachout. >> look, i have been consistent of what state passed and i have spent my entire life raising people's voices that people need to be engaged in the process that we actually have to have a politics that has room for all of us. you know the other people that keeps things out of the political process is money. lobbyists coming in writing legislation that people aren't engaged in writing. when i'm in congress i'm always going to be about everybody's voice, making sure that everybody has an equal voice and representation. >> casey is going to have a brief final question as we get near end of debate.

>> you are an opponent of it as you mentioned but you have accepted money from sources of great wealth including the suros family. some have said is hypocritical. my campaign is campaigned with $19. it is grassroots up. and it's powered by grassroots door to door knocking, by people meeting in local communities, by teenagers. we have these wonderful teenagers who are coming into our offices to volunteer and it's always been about the low dollar grassroots. my opponent's campaign has been funded by a handful of super pacs, all those attack ads you see and you see a lot of them, $2.3 million spent on attack ads

against me funded by the new york city hedge funders who think they found somebody who is going to do their bidding in washington. i asked john to join a pledge to keep super pacs out of this race in massachusetts, scott brown a republican and elizabeth warren and a democrat came together, had a pledge, they enforced it and kept super pac spending out of the race. he turned me down because he thinks that citizens united was a right decision. i have stood for overturning citizens united. i have stood for changing the way that we fund elections. i have stood for reducing the pow -- of lobbyists and i'm always going to be an independent voice for those things. >> well, it really does amace me, ms. teachout started with false negative ads against me i have 97% attendance record. when i was missing i was on official legislative business elsewhere or attend to go my wife who was being operated on

for cancer in the hospital but they still attacked me on having a poor attendance record when the fact is i have a 97% attendance record and ms. teachout is hypocritical. she started negative ads from the get-go. she said falsehoods about my records and business career right from the start and her campaign is funded by people who don't even live in this district by in large, they're from all over the country and very few are from here. >> we are approaching the end of the broadcast, the formal questioning is now over. each candidate will have one minute for closing statement as determined beforehand. ms. teachout will go first. >> thank you for listening. you have a real choice between two different candidates on november 8th. i just want to briefly address some things that did not come up in this debate but might be important to you in making your decision. john faso and i are really different in protecting social security.

i think we have to protect it and expand it. he has written an op-ed in "the new york times" we should privatize it. we are really different on protecting our water. he told you -- we talked about ge earlier, he wrote letters to the epa saying that ge should not have to fund the full clean-up. i am going to fight to protect our water and make sure that the big polluters pay but the most fundamental difference is i'm alms going to tell you where i stand and i'm independent. he won't even trust the voters enough to tell him who he is going to vote for on november 8th. i'm going to be responsible to you and only respond to you. thank you. >> good evening and thank you again. all of the viewers out there and the people in the audience for coming. i appreciate the opportunity to present my credentials to you. i'm running for congress because our nation is in crisis. we have to fix this economy. we have to change the direction of the country.

we are about to go over the cliff financially unless we do that. we have to rebuild our defenses because it's vitally important that america remain strong. it is vitally important that we have a future for our children and our grandchildren, that's why i'm running. i'm from here. i've lived and work here for 33 years. my opponent has never even voted in the general election in this district. she just moved here. she only bought a house in this district this year. so i stand for free enterprise, i stand for limited government, i stand for personal responsibility. i stand for the constitution. i stand for the rule of law. i stand for individual responsibility and equal opportunity for all americans. that's my platform. that's what i will run on and that's how i will serve. >> all right, ms. teachout and mr. faso i want to thank you for participating in debate and karen and casey from new york now and the times union.

a reminder, you can watch the full debate all over again from now until election day. head to our website. of course, we will catch you up on all week's analysis on our weekly version of new york now, sunday at 11:00 a.m. if you're watching us. from all of us here, thank you so much for watching, have a good night and do not forget to vote on november 8th. >> c-span's coverage of races continues at 5:25 p.m. eastern. senator vermont challenges scott . >> at 8:00 p.m. eastern the race to replace retiring louisiana senator david, debate between republican state treasurer john kennedy, republican congressman

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human trafficking prevention, refugee settlement and other issues. klvit tv hosted this hour-long debate. >> good eaching from the studios in downtown, we are joined by two candidates. bud pierce and kate brown. >> live from the studios of nbc5 and oregon debate featuring kate brown and republican challenger bud pierce. tonight's debate brought to you by aarp. the oregon association and road community college. now, your host and moderator for tonight's debate nbc5 news director.

>> i'm news director nbc5. i will be your moderator for the week. in less than four weeks [applause] >> before we begin, let's meet our candidates. >> dr. bud pierce is a cancer doctor, small business owner and marine veteran. his father dined when he was only 15 and bud went onto get md, ph.d and treated over 15,000 patients with cancer and blood disease while growing a 75-ploament -- employment business. now wants to serve by taking leadership abilities to help our state government work better.

standing up for working as juvenile and family law attorney to service as legislator, secretary of state and now governor, governor brown is proud to focus on the issues that matter most to oregon. since becoming governor in 2015 she helped the raise minimum wage, sick leave and made voting easier than ever. we have three panelists asking questions tonight. to my far right kristin anchor and reporter here at kobi-tv. to my left is baron, anchor and pricer here at kobi tv 5. the rules and format have been agree today by both candidates. each candidate will receive 60 seconds to respond to the original question. as determined earlier, governor brown will take the first question. the candidates will take turns from that point on.

it's important to note the candidate who first answers the question will not begin chance to respond rebuttal. once the candidate has answered question, they can readdress any particular topic in 60 seconds and also choose to readdress in closing statement. at the conclusion of the debate each candidate will be providing a 60-second closing statement. with all of that covered, we will begin with the q&a. >> thanks so much for being here tonight. let's begin with controversial tax measure before oregon voters. golferror brown, you have endorsed this measure and governor -- >> i appreciate you all taking time out of your busy schedules to join us. oregon needs adequate and stable revenue for key basic services

like schools, making sure that hundreds of thousands of oregonians have access to health care and seniors. i will tell you that every business person that i have talked to agree that is we need additional revenue on the table and ballot measure 97 provides that, in addition it's time that corporations, out of state corporations pay their fair share. for me i would ask each of you, do you think oregon school year is long enough? do you think that our class sizes are small enough? i don't. do you think it's okay to kick off hundreds of thousands oregonians off the health plan, i don't. it's important that we revive seniors with the assistance they need to stay in their homes. >> you honor me by allowing me to participate in this debate today and thank you very much. this measurable cost, 38,000 private sector jobs going

forward to 2022 and cost average oregon family $600 more in cost of living and those two issues make the ballot measure unacceptable to me. this will increase government spending by 40% over $6 billion and this is what the government wants and we get $2 billion more from the improvement in the economy. i prepared a budget that takes that 10% increase and cuts taxes for low-income people and begins to do things like reform. i believe the government needs to live within its means and 10% increase is sufficient for the government to live within its means and we will not sacrifice private-sector jobs. >> our next question to be directed to dr. pierce. >> dr. pierce, if the measure passes, what will you do to ensure the revenue it creates will create as promise, if the

measure does not pass, what will you do to ensure that schools and health and human services receive adequate funding? >> i will answer first if it does not pass, i prepared a budget. we feel that it's adequate to address school funding and taking care of kids and medicaid expansion program. it's clear that many people in the legislature not interested in having citizens pay 600 more a year in cost of living. it's clear that certain businesses are disproportionately affected. i think that the -- they need to be helped. i believe that the hert and -- heart and spirit by the measure would be taken and the major damage is and the cost of living, it's in loss of private sector jobs and it is in disproportional negative effect

on certain businesses that have high sales. >> governor brown. >> thank you. if the measure does pas, i will make sure that my budget reflects for priorities of oregonians as they voted for ballot 97, early childhood education, reducing our class sizes and lengthening our school year and seniors have access to programs that they need to stay in homes and make sure over the last couple of years we have added almost 400 oregonians to the health plan. i believe very strongly that the oregonians must have access to health care. we will work with the legislature to ensure that it's implemented. the ball will be in the legislature's court.

.. bankrupt, bankrupts our schools, counties and cities. >> following that decision the oregon supreme court said we must keep our promises to oregon retirees and all of us would agree we must keep those promises. i asked my legal team with reviewing and talking with lawyers on both sides of the

aisle which would meet mike two criteria. one, legally viable and number 2, reduce significant financial savings. there is no clear path that meets both criteria. that is why i am working with the oregon investment council to make sure they have the tools they need, they over see and maximize return on investments and stabilized the system. there were a number of proposals, lawsuits back on the wheel of litigation. pierce: through the years a number of reforms had to pass muster judicial review. i believe my criticism has not supported them whether they passed or failed legal muster. in terms of what we were told we could smooth out the payments for people still in the system.

five years instead three years, final calculation for base pay, things like money match formula payout where you take changing lump-sum into a cash flow, charge market rates and not inflate 7% or 8% or spiking vacation pay and sick pay into the final calculation for wages and finally in the average state of the union when a person bill is due 78% is due to the current employee and move toward that sensor system. >> next question for doctor pierce. >> josephine voters turned down tax increases that would pay for resources at the charity department, ofc handles many cases. if elected what will you do to keep counties like josephine safe? >> one county remains poor, leads to a breakdown of social

services so the number one answer is to get an economy going, very interested in the arguments, the ability of counties for maximum value in terms of a long way so we need massive stimulation of the economy and other measures like tax credits, once people make muffin -- enough money they pay for their services. i would be committed to legislatively ensuring basic services are maintained and only if you have a level of prosperity and people don't want to pay for that there will be a disagreement in the negotiation process. >> doctor pierce's but it failed to reflect reality, and increasing population and decreasing federal dollars. that will reflect population demographics and dollars in

terms of federal dollar changes. in terms of law enforcement the oregon state police have twice as many oregon state troopers, they have half the number they did in 1980. i find that unacceptable. oregon state police troopers were key to providing public safety particularly in rural communities throughout the state of oregon. i will fight to make sure we have additional troopers on the front line, to make sure communities throughout oregon can be safe. >> governor brown. >> lane county and 10 other counties cleared the way to one$.4 billion. the suit alleges the state has for decades placed conservation goals ahead of sustainable hardest levels on the state managed timberlands. what are your thoughts on this

litigation? >> we are striking a balance between conservation and sustainable harvest and we have seen this on elliott state forest was one of the common fund properties. we have been working hard to increase harvest. to make sure we pay for basic expenses, put people back to work in douglas county and pay for schools but we struggle to do that because of environmental lawsuits. we are working to maintain a balance for future generations, $4 going back to the county. >> and debate whether it is my budget in terms of her budget. second, when we look at the

elliott forest, it is -- money to the school fund because we can't harvest, and another interesting thing is we have bidders on the elliott forest and we are not taking the maximum bid, just taking a bid to the assessed value of selling a house and accept values, $250,000. and negotiations, and environmentalists and timber companies, and common ground and how to resolve this so we get value out of the forest, critical to be an oregonian and make the lawsuit go away with fruitful negotiation. >> switching gears, human trafficking is not just big-city prime but stretches through the eye 5 core door and grows

throughout oregon. and remedy the terrible situation. >> aggressive lot enforcement action get involved in mitigating and identifying a problem with people being abused, and physically abused, and reach out to prevention. risks that are particularly vulnerable to what was aggressive, and an easy way to call out and identify the target they need and pulled away from their users. and the better law-enforcement prevention, once the events are happening in easy ways to cry out for help --

>> i worked on legislation to tackle this problem and create a task force and laying the groundwork. it is a huge problem throughout oregon and the entire west coast which i would treat this to the other domestic violence and sexual assault issues over 1 million girls and women in the state have been impacted. i believe we need to work to invest in a safety net and services for survivors, help them lead but we also need to make sure we have adequate shelters available. that is a huge issue because we are turning four of five of every survivor. it is critical the state play a role. i had leadership experience tackling these issues over the last 20 years and look forward to working with oregonians to make sure we keep our young men and women safe and provide a

safety net for domestic violence survivors. >> next question for governor brown. >> between the ages of 5 and 11, suicide is a major concern in the school. your reaction to this. >> they are facing lots of trauma. and it is challenging, we don't have adequate mental health and nurse providers in each of our schools in the state of oregon. and providing adequate counseling and mental health though, a comprehensive

childhood education, and identify early, and also think we need more resources in our schools particularly, to tackle this challenging problem. >> happening throughout america, what is the issue of mental health, and what your economic background is, suicide and depression goes along with it. and suffering drug abuse, mental health issues within the family, it calls for a rethinking of how to look at people, 0 children living on the streets, families in distress, we need to move in and work accurately to get them out of distress.

and provide necessary resources on the road to the dignity of work with the intensity of great anchor for family whether it is that we 2-person family or one person family to create a stable structure, but the life is better and if that is not sufficient there are resources. >> next question is for doctor pierce. >> we hear from our viewers they see federal elected officials far more than statewide elected officials. us senators widen and merkley to a town hall in oregon every year, our governors do not as if elected, would you commit to doing an annual town hall meeting in oregon? >> absolutely. in medford i wasn't noticed because of a high profile candidate, i committed to spending three month out of every year in the rural communities living a week at a time, that is key to give the governor all of oregon, and

participating in a range of events that you have a different feel and make government come alive. i think that is key. it gets people to have confidence in the government again, government officials have to get out of their hiding places and engage citizens in their place of life and work and lead to greater confidence in government. >> i will continue to reach out and be in all the communities throughout the state of oregon. i have been in the valley a number of times touring different facilities. we have a wonderful opportunity, governor and secretary of state and do town halls there, and the sustainability board, we came down twice, one of our meetings was held at the fabulous cheese factory road creamery and able to go there as well as go next

door and taste the fine products they are making and i will continue to make sure we make oregon a place where everyone can thrive and i will do that by being in the community on a regular basis. >> if elected will you commit to doing an annual town hall meeting in each county in oregon? >> i would love to make that commitment. i know having served as governor in the last two years the challenges come up. for example, when the horrible tragedy, the shooting at you cc happened i was in the campus within a handful of hours working to console the community, provide support for the family and working to provide resources for that particular community. it was imperative at that point

in oregon's history, that i devote my time and energy for that community to heal and that is what we did and i continue to make sure they have mental health professionals for a year following the tragedy and the financial resources in the community college. >> president obama announced plans to increase the number of refugees accepted into this country. does oregon accept these refugees and if so what precautions should be taken? >> we should. america, oregon, we are a land of immigrants and we should welcome these families that have seen horrific tragedy and suffered terribly absolutely terribly. the refugees that come have been in refugee camps and they go through a two year budding process by federal authorities.

i'm confident seeing families of the little children and the parents that came here that we will be safe and we should welcome them. >> what precautions should be taken? >> federal authorities do the vetting entirely. >> my heart goes out to refugees terribly abused, from a land of great crisis. i am very worried about our own people suffering and resource strapped. that part worries me. are we doing enough for people that are here? i would put my resources in as a priority. private individuals want to sponsor refugees, i think that is great and a great way to go and at the end of the day the president of the united states as we have refugees, i won't block that and we will go forward and make them feel welcome and do everything we can and trust federal vetting and

leave it at that but i am concerned about the resources being put forward to our veterans who are homeless and struggling with mental health -- social discourse that we have and it is good to take care of your own family. >> next question for doctor pierce. >> this is from a 15-year-old viewer in jackson county. her question, i'm exposed to many teenagers who think it is cool and not unhealthy to smoke pot, they have easier access because recreational part is legal for adults to purchase. if elected how will you monitor the unintended negative consequences of all the children exposed to marijuana? >> we need to find out a lot more about marijuana. we don't know about the medical use, some of them are focused on cancer treatment, and patients we don't have any information.

second in terms of the effect on children, we have to find that out. by case-control where you identify effects on children how much you can ascertain, lots of science and risk public health campaign against minors using marijuana and need risk public health campaign about the use and misuse and effects of marijuana. society clearly wants it available and it is incumbent on government officials to get true information to protect children. >> we have a brisk campaign happening to educate and make sure minors are not using marijuana but those efforts need to continue and when i was in high school i know students drove and use their seatbelt and drove while drinking and mothers

against drunk drivers changed the conversation in this country about the acceptability of drinking and driving and drinking before driving and i think we need a major social effort, nonprofit and educational centers working together to make sure minors are not using marijuana. question for governor brown. >> dropout rate for oregon public schools among the worst in the country. what are your plans to fix this? >> it is absolutely unacceptable to have one out of every four student in oregon not complete high school. this is very personal issue for me. my stepson dropped out of high school two years in and we were fortunate as a family, we have the tools and resources to make sure we got his ged but not every family does. that is why i brought our new education innovation officer,

his goal is to work with schools and school districts to come up with strategic plans to make sure we're replicating best practices. we know high schools are having great success and make sure districts and schools have the tools they need to ensure every child complete high school with a plan for the future. secondly we are working to create a seamless system of education from cradle to career meaning we will ensure that early childhood education is seamless, children are ready to learn. >> doctor pierce? >> attack absenteeism as a target for all high school children. and you find out at an early age people don't show up to school and graduate and that is obviously key. second, we need to have the education pathway in which

students have another way of university preparation because they lose interest in school, harming them greatly but the governor and i support measure 98 which will pay new funding to education and put it towards technical education programs that have been very successful in getting some children who would otherwise dropout, vigorous dropout prevention programs. these are about identifying students at risk for not attending class, getting them on the right track and being there is critical. we need to make sure the children have a chance to graduate. >> next question from arthur. >> small business is vital to our economy specifically, i underline specifically what would you do to support oregon small business? >> we need to be very aggressive. we look at things like enterprise zones, they improve their property, property tax abatement like the big boys, i'm interested in when people start

a new business, go out and take the risk, they get tax credits on any earned income the first several years. a lot of times the business doesn't make it. i went the extra senate and oregon has a plan in place for capital to give partial loan guarantees when businesses are not considered solid enough to put more money into the hands of entrepreneurs. i think it is an idea to reward building of your business and holding tax rates down and supporting loan guarantees and extra tangible award when you take the risk starting small business. >> i have been working with small businesses for a number of years. as secretary of state i created the office of small business and that office has been very useful for small business to tackle agency, regulatory red tape.

a small business advisory cabinet, 70% of jobs are created, existing oregon businesses grow and thrive and focus on three areas, number one, access to capital making sure small businesses have the resources to be successful and making sure small businesses have access to mentorship and thirdly making sure we have the right regulatory climate to ensure small businesses thrive. 90% of oregon jobs are created by small businesses. i want to make sure these businesses grow and thrive in every corner of the state. >> next question for governor brown. >> in a recent national survey oregon ranked second among all states in nonmedical use of pain relievers, jackson and josephine county the head of the state average. what steps would you take to ensure healthcare providers are not over subscribing? >> task force working on that

issue, i find it unacceptable. there are ways to tackle the problem. when is to make sure we have adequate drug and alcohol treatment available throughout the state, as we are implementing behavioral health into coordinated care organization that will move us in the right direction. i am supporting ballot measure 97 to make sure we are moving forward in terms of healthcare for all oregonians particularly mental health and drug and alcohol treatment and i find it untenable that we would kick people off of the oregon health plan and deny access to mental health and alcohol treatment. secondly we are working with the oregon house authority working with physicians and medical providers to make sure we have additional tools to reduce overuse of prescriptions.

>> the government got in trouble in the past, make an mandatory 8 hour pain classing to a group of doctors and healthcare providers if people are in pain give them pain medicine was the gist of the argument and that got us into a lot of trouble. medicine, the trouble we are in, vigorous programs in medicine to encourage nonnarcotic management and pain and from a provider perspective what you really want is a place to send people easily when you know -- whether you have them going on or not, when you are a physician, a patient who is intensely -- you need that help and we need much bigger programs in terms of helping people with drug addiction, how to help them transition to something that allows them to function better. >> next question for doctor pierce.

>> safety worries many parents, armed school marshaled, retired army officers, should all schools have this protection? >> i believe we have to look at school safety in a holistic way. talking about buildings that have is best us, lead, radon, the actual physical environment the school is in, needs to be safe for our children, then the issue of violence within the school, the children, bullying, that is another part of safety and the risk we experienced in sandy hook, something coming in, mad person with a gun, we want a holistic solution and to come up with best practices to address safety issues so if a group would want to, armed guards needed for period of time or part of the time that is what they need but let people at the

community level decide and organize what they need at the local level because every school is different. >> we had a school safety work group working, k-12, i find it unacceptable the kindergartners are required to go through lockdown drugs. i find it unacceptable and we must do everything we can so we moved forward on legislation including creating a hotline tip. coming forward with recommendations, we have to invest additional protections it-12 and community college campuses and university campuses across the entire state but the heart of this problem, kindergartners being trained to

go through these drills it is taking forward strides on gun safety measures, and we will do that. >> at all schools have that protection? >> no. >> next question for governor brown. >> one of the most contentious and combative presidential elections in history, give a grade of a-f your party and explain your grade. >> c. i think this presidential election has been one of the worst in united states history. i think my candidate, hillary clinton, has worked very hard to raise the level of discussion but more can be done. my opponent is about his endorsement of donald trump. i am appalled that he endorsed

donald trump in the first place. mister trump's vitriolic, racist, sexist, bigoted statements have been clear for years, months and for my opponent to disavow his endorsement smacks of political opportunism. >> how long ago? >> first and second week of september. i given have to the political discourse at the top of the presidential campaign. many citizens in the republican party incredibly unhappy with standard politicians and empty promises, they chose donald trump and i respected that. they nominate him as our candidate. then you go with your gubernatorial campaign but we are hearing what is going on and watch what is going on and get

to a point where as republicans we have strong negative connotations about hillary clinton as a person and political leaders so we are going nowhere near there. governor brown, we will hold on as long as we can. we have a candidate we can get behind. it is difficult, the discourse. >>:her neck won't stand for the national anthem because of racism in american society, this brought a national debate. what are your thoughts on his not standing for the anthem and the fallout? >> systemic racism exists after the events in missouri because it was so disturbing, in terms of racial harmony. we have legal racism, increased opportunities for people of

black color but nothing to end in my mind racial hatred. to participate in that, clearly when you have highly paid athletes enjoying all the fruits of society and benefits and basketball players really have that negative connotations how they are treated, the way they feel about the status of race in america we have a problem. we need to pull together, realize we need to work together, we are one race, the human race, we have to look at how all people are treated and come to solutions but it is a major major problem. >> freedom of expression. he has the right to do that under our constitution but it is time for action, not just words in terms of tali