in my mind racial hatred. to participate in that, clearly when you have highly paid athletes enjoying all the fruits of society and benefits and basketball players really have that negative connotations how they are treated, the way they feel about the status of race in america we have a problem. we need to pull together, realize we need to work together, we are one race, the human race, we have to look at how all people are treated and come to solutions but it is a major major problem. >> freedom of expression. he has the right to do that under our constitution but it is time for action, not just words in terms of tackling systemic racism. i signed into law two bill that

will move us in the right direction. one, been on racial profiling, created a task force to look at the criminal justice system in oregon, our criminal justice system disproportionately impacts men of color, latinos and african-americans men, moving forward on proposals that will level the playing field including reducing penalties for crimes like possession of controlled substances those particular penalties impact men of color in the criminal justice system. we need to diversify our leadership at the state level and agency leadership and staff and make sure agencies look like diverse -- under my leadership we will continue to do that. >> next weston for governor brown. >> july 1, 2017, the oregon

retirement savings plan is set to launch. until then, when million oregonians don't have access to retirement savings at work and employees are 15 times more likely, having access to payroll deduction. what is your plan to ensure success of the program and how do you envision it, improving financial security for all oregonians? >> it is absolutely critical blues not enough oregonians save for their retirement and the savings proposal i signed into law provides a clear pathway opportunity to make it easy to save for retirement was the second piece we work to implement legislation, the second piece making sure students in middle school and high school have access to financial information, a young man telling him about savings and how critical it is at the age of 25 if he starts putting

away $10 a month, the benefits he will reap when he is older but at 25 it is too late. we have to start in middle school and high school and i look forward to implementing these programs in the high school and middle school level. >> the issues, do people have enough money to put away for retirement, relatively low wages and high cost of living, do we have enough money to put aside and not live paycheck to paycheck. in terms of a retirement plan i would have favored using a private plan, mandatory enrollment so when you go to work, and the mechanism, the other thing to pay attention to we have a retirement plan, a lot of times when they leave their job they take their money out and that -- even things you need

to do, get oregonians more prosperous with more money to put aside. state program or private program, mandatory enrollment means people can stay in it. difficult to take the money out until you're retired so when you change jobs you don't start all over again. >> next question for doctor pierce. >> several viewers sending questions about federal energy regulatory commission, jackson county board of commissioners is against it, where do you stand on the proposed project and why? >> with any of these major projects we need a more rapid decision for respecting local control. when you look at societies that work better than ours they tend to let local people carry the

program forward. if they say no it is over. it goes to the state level and then the federal level. if it stopped at any point it is over. the second your ways with environment and legal concerns so you don't invest $300 million, people don't want to project, and bring in state or federal, and 5 or 10 or 15 year approval process in the amount of time and money, they can't let it go, and that is a real answer. >> of people -- their local communities. >> how do we determine -- >> representatives -- >> it is about fairness and making sure proponents and opponents have a fair shot and in my role as governor i see

myself as a referee and projects like these, the regulations being complied with and oregonians have an opportunity, in terms of jordan cove facility in front of the federal energy regulatory commission, i would encourage oregonians cut contact federal delegation. >> no opinion on that? >> it is important oregonians feel they are getting fair process so as governor i remain neutral, and i want to make sure everybody feels a fair shake. oregonian voices are being heard. >> next question for governor brown. >> plans to decommission four hydroelectric dams at this point up to the federal energy regularly commission for license

transfer and other applications. why or why not? >> we are moving forward. it is the right thing to do. there are two other pieces the need to happen to complete the entire work on the system and that is making sure farmers and ranchers on the basin on the water they need. and access to land restoration and water. both of those actions can only happen through and act of congress which we are working to make sure that happens. >> i am excited about having a river with salmon at the head of the river and a lot of promises made to a lot of people through the years by government, promises made to the ranchers for adequate water and promises

made to the environmental community for adequate water for environmental maintenance and promises made for adequate water to the tribes and a lot of promises made will take a lot of working together to begin the goal of the commissioning dams and allowing a river to be wild again, something oregonians should rally around. >> next question for me. >> what is your -- idiosyncrasy is told to you by your closest friends and family? >> my most noted idiosyncrasy as i talk too fast. i hear that -- i hear it tonight and i hear it from my patients. the more wound up i get it goes quicker and quicker and quicker. this is the only thing i have spoken at the right speed tonight.

>> i agree with doctor pierce on this one. when i speak in public i get very excited and very nervous and i liken it to the high divers from the olympics when they do triple 31/2 off of the 10 m platform and overrotate and i get so excited and have so much energy and enthusiasm coursing through my body i have a hard time slowing down and talking in a voice everyone understands. >> next question for governor brown. >> if you could fix one thing, i am talking one thing, what would that be? >> i am committed to creating a seamless system of education from cradle to career. no state has been able to accomplish this goal. i mean truly seamless. our children who have been able

to attend the preschool promise program, ready to learn, all of them milestones, investing in a career in science, technology, engineering and math for hands-on learning opportunity and be able to flow to community college through community oregon promise program or university or vo-tech program of their choice but it has to be seamless, affordable and accessible so i have more work to do. >> the dignity of work for all citizens, anchored by work they generally have good lives or better lives, ideally to treat the mentally ill and the homeless to get appropriate training, in the workforce, means changing the social safety

net, encouraging the able body with education and training technical and university levels, has to do with stimulating a myriad of jobs, with a land of medicine and government, with service jobs and that would include pushing forward to bringing back modern manufacturing resource-based economy and the ability to get the resource buildout. the dignity of work is so important. >> talk more about that job creation. the driving force of the economy many people can only find minimum-wage jobs with no benefits or part-time jobs. what is your vision on how we fix this? >> i answered that a little bit in the past. it is work preparation, have people with training and preparation based on their unique skill set, dealing with any demons that make them

unemployable. it was an encouragement rather than a detriment. we need a great public/private cooperation, government needs necessary regulations a regular tory apparatus but have to be careful so it doesn't smother the growth to do business so you turn on small business and entrepreneurship and help business expand, you do that again by listening to business. they say if you do this it will help and if it makes sense and you can do it, see what they say so a great partnership between the government and private sector with the goal of making the private sector as successful as it can be because public-sector companies take great care of their employees. >> it is easy for someone with multiple host to say just get a job. it is really challenging in practice. i talk about creating a seamless system from cradle to career. we do that to improve educational outcomes for our students. when i talk to employers the things they tell me they need

our a qualified, educated workforce and we can do that by sustaining our investments in a seamless system of creating cradle to career of education. secondly infrastructure. oregon can lead in terms of investing in infrastructure. we are working on developing a transportation package, investing in roads and bridges and mass transit. i know the road rally has taken a leadership role, mass transit absolutely critical that we make these investments in our roads and bridges and make sure people can get to work safely and product get to market effectively and efficiently. the side benefit is creating jobs. we must invest in retrofitting our infrastructure. on my last tour of the mentored viaduct, i saw the challenges. >> that is the last question. time has flown by, well done

that does conclude the debate portion of the program. time for closing statements. governor brown up first. >> i got into public service to be a voice for the voiceless. i went to law school to achieve justice and equality. my first experience in the capital were fighting to pass a bill, enabling parents to stay home with 6 children without fear of losing their jobs. when governor roberts signed the bill into law oregon became one of the first state in the nation to recognize family medical leave. i realize and make oregon a better place for family. we have done that. and intentionally moving away, generated electricity. and working families in their pockets. and first automatic voter registration, in oregon we believe your vote is your voice and every voice matters. i look forward to working with

you to build on the progress we have made so far. make sure we make oregon, our home, a place where everyone can thrive. >> two very different people on stage today, when a 25 career politician who wants to increase state government spending for $8 billion, and a 40% increase, which will potentially cost thousands of private sector jobs, hundreds of thousands of dollars oregon families, brought forward a commonsense budget that takes care and expands services and funding of education. i challenge this governor to bring forward a budget, we can talk about this in a different way. i aim to be the governor of all oregonians and a governor who unifies us but we need to stop thinking of urban and rural oregon. and to be one people, one race, the human race and if we pull

together to create a great future, and look forward to your support. >> on behalf of everyone here, as well as our viewers i think the candidates for participating and thank our viewers at home for watching, please do not forget to vote in the november election, good night. [applause] >> you have been watching the oregon gubernatorial debate featuring democratic incumbent kate brown and republican challenger bud pierce. tonight after the date was brought to you by aarp. the oregon association of realtors. road community college.

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hosted this hour-long event. >> i am turning this over from rollcall the moderator stepping back, introduce the panelists, we have the university of maryland grad here, margaret. >> good morning, thank you. i am catalina, a policy editor and happy to be your moderator for a discussion how to cover the transition, not only for the next presidential administration but also a change of power likely to occur on the hill. we have today on our panel on my right, starting with olivia knox chief washington correspondent for yahoo news and kimberly, senior education

writer the next to kimberly, a senior white house correspondent for bloomberg news and last but not least jackie calm, national correspondent for the new york times. our panel is well-versed on the issues this morning, we have 21 days until election day and journalists covering politics and the federal government are thinking what next you and how to navigate the transmission for the next administration, what happens on the hill. let me ask the panel what are your tips for covering the transition to the next not only 21 days but the first hundred days of the next administration? >> principal transmission coverage is not that different for those who cover the white house day today, looking for overlap of information but not overlap keeping the information private. i will give you an example, not to cover the white house talk to

congress and the agencies and the political operatives and above all talk to congress, 535, the transition can be complicated. incoming administration, people in congress, allies in congress always do things so rather than just relying on the daily transition it is a good idea to talk to all these other people who have the same information and close to it but are not of guarded. >> you va and education department. what happens when all your sources especially political appointees may be gone. >> you have to start now, this is the time to go to key

lawmakers, ask what are you formally asking transition, who are the people you want to see, and keep going back to them from the transition team, are you responding to requests, the kind of questions to be asking, from a very practical perspective, the first day of the new administration to be daunting, for months or years in a lot of cases gone, you can't assume the communications job answering the phones and even if they are they might not feel they have expertise to answer your questions or they might not feel the experts are in play from political appointees to help

them. the people you're used to contacting 24 hours a day with questions about regulations and that kind of thing are suddenly gone or smack >> what about you? what are some good tips for reporters who might be listening, how to handle the next administration? >> part of it is the organized for your self. you know the beginnings of it, cochairs of the transition and other executive directors and the transition committee, economic advisers, foreign-policy advisors, that helps you to become organized, in terms of coverage, people who will not shape the cabinet, the

top staff will be. and the new administration and the top-tier cabinet position. not that there's any top-tier or second-tier. and you have to figure out your priorities, are you a generalist covering everything or politics reporter looking at the relationship with congress or are you doing foreign-policy and overlap the transition team. the other thing to keep in mind 3 parts to any incoming president, the campaign, transition. some people on the transition team you will never see again, they were there for the interim to do the job and get out. some people in the campaign, some are political people, there

will be important players who never had any role in the campaign but fewer of those so in the transition it is key not to forget who the players were, staff perspective and kitchen cabinet perspective, and reappear to create chains of command in the power structure. >> since i'm cleaning up, what others repeated, for transition and one is you should be started by now. the campaigns, that was not always true. completely, intimately knowledgeable about the campaign promises the candidates have

made and the third is to know who the people are behind the scenes who are responsible for coming up with those policies, conversation people, who might be treasury secretary, people talking about that for months. and george hw bush and bill clinton, i had been covering congress for the wall street journal which goes to the point where a lot of people if they don't come from congress or top cabinet level, typically secretary or just under. people on the hill are going to know who is being talked about. people of 92, i started doing

reporting profiles on lloyd benson, this chairman of the senate finance committee, one of the people the treasury secretary of the clinton administration i had my profile already going to be named sometime in early december because my baby came 10 days early so when i was in the birthing room undergoing contractions i was on the phone with one of my colleagues dictating from my notes that i had on lloyd benson to be treasury secretary. the next one, george w. bush, was intimately familiar with george w at tax-cut plan to the extent he had details so that was the first thing he went out

with so view of politics of that, the democrats and conservative democrats from southern states in particular. .. a story -- storied relationship with the press. sometimes i'll write not trusting the press and other times using the browse to their advantage. what tips would you give to our audience here and watching on c-span on how to deal with that? olivier? >> let me confirm neither of

these candidates like the press. [laughter] which is fine. they are not supposed to be your friends. in my experience when, one of the waste incompetence the relationship is that makes they want to collect as much information as i'm doing before i go to them. because this was a danger that they will assess which is collected and will go to a rival organization and give them that bit of news you were trying to ferret out. i try to collect as much -- -- i've had stored ideas. i naïvely pitch story ideas, i want report is out, what do you think? i realize it's a good angle for them and they turn around and give it to someone else. i would recommend collecting as much again before you go to the people who don't like you. that can have come in addition to avoiding some bad things, can

be leveraged for you. you can walk into the conversation and say no, i know this. i have this story. give me this garbage. you and i both know this isn't true. that's very helpful. i think that's probably the wonder -- underwent hip i would give you. start working on your story far away from people who dislike you and only come to them late in the process. >> how do you navigate the issues of access, for a lot of folks in the program probably are not going to be in the pressroom everyday at the white house or not necessary up on the hill during transition, how do you navigate the issue of access to speak was even when you are there every day it doesn't always matter. a lot of what happens, this is probably true of like life in general, but certainly true at the white house come is transactional and it's not personal and its hierarchical. do they consider you a friendly news organization? do they consider your news

organization, that has readers they're trying to reach, readers that proportionally may have more of an ideological go with them. how many people be reached, is a financial audience, is it more of a social issue audience? whatever. to some extent whether they dislike you, if they really dislike you it, thereby go to someone else they like better. even if they like you it's not personal. it's like other going to get what they think they want out of your? you can be seated in the front row for several or you can be on held at the white house once every three weeks. it almost probably doesn't matter. my advice, and one, the thick-skinned. it's almost never personal. number two, just figure which what to do. your instance of a better than you think. if you're not an inside player, if you're not at the briefing every day, in the pool everyday,

if you work for regional paper or a news organization that is just not completely compulsively all the time covering it, then maybe don't compete in the same airspace or water, to know what they mean? kp with something of strength at copying an arena where you can do your sourcing outside of the building. trust your own instincts. you don't need them to validate what you see. sure, go to the at the last minute, if your comment. if you are doing good stores they will pay attention to you. that doesn't mean you'll ever get the leak or the first phone call or that first confirmation. so trust your own instincts, look for stories you can get and, you know, access is great when you have it, but you only need it to do certain kinds of stories. if you're not going to get it, hope you have an editor who

understands that and do what you do. >> before the open it up to the audience for questions idea what to get a dialogue going with you and our panelists. before i do that, jackie, let me ask you this. it's a question about unfinished priorities. we saw on friday the obama administration issue a new round of actions designed to increase trade and travel in cuba and now travelers to me back from the island can bring back those famous cigars and the rum. are we likely to see more of those kinds of executive actions at the end of the obama administration? how do we know what issues might come up in these final days? and then have you parlayed that into stories in the first 100 days in the new administration? >> i think you most definitely will see more will making. this is something president obama has relied on for much of his second term because it was

clear that the republican-controlled congress, which for the last nearly two years, the last two years of his term has been completely controlled once republicans won completely controlled by republicans since the republicans took control of the senate in early 2015. i think he's done most, time is running out, he's done most of what is going to do. margaret my nevada because it's been over a year since i was covering the white house day-to-day. and yet the danger of executive orders as the white house is the first to acknowledge is they can be overturned. the one thing that president obama is hoping in a lot of cases including, whether it's a cube or climate change is that there will be so much, ma that industry in particular has already done and is supportive of that it would be hard to turn

it back without alienating or anchoring the republicans own business allies. so in that sense they hope that it will be harder to turn back and people thing. donald trump has promised to do a wholesale sort of the richer -- the richer of the the obama executive orders. >> president obama was in time to figure that out between the election and a time when it runs out of time to issue executive orders. if you have a present for the same party who your father was and is seen as kind of a third term or continuity, on the one that it might embolden you to do more executive orders because of an expert is less likely to overturned on the overhand -- on the other hand, if it's a hot potato and headed to the next president who dislike her ally that could have some consequences for their ability to cover.

i think you are weighing a different set of circumstances where the next guy or woman, in this case guy, were to be hostile for everything you stand for, you would almost have the flipside of osha energy which is do i just loaded up and force the guide to overcome everything, or do i say that's more trouble than it's worth for my party in the long run, i won't do it that way. i think the issues the president has been unable to resolve with congress, we know closing guantánamo is a big one of those. what do you think? i guess probably won't. >> this isn't exactly on executive orders but along the same line, a good story is who's in and who's out in comparison to the obama white house. for example, on education beat, obama's white house was constantly clashing with teachers unions, yet clinton

came out early or teachers union came early in the campaign and the tortures will be interesting to see what is your relationship like with that group. with the new president there are so many different opportunities to say, to look out who's getting the attention, who's getting what they want. it's not just with executive orders. >> icy hands getting ready to go up and ask questions. if you could please when you ask your question if you could tell us your name and your news organization that would help our panelists as well. questions? i saw a couple hands getting ready. yes, in the front. >> i hope this doesn't sound too much like i don't know what i'm talking about but the idea you were talking about with executive orders coming in quickly. is the only way to overturn an executive order is another executive order? in terms of coming from the white house. is there any way that can do

that quietly? usually we see press releases under the new executive order that lets a clinton comes in and their something she didn't like, does she try to keep that, i don't know, overturns some of these issues, that kind of thing? >> anyone want to give some insight on how executive orders are overturned? there's also the court. >> i don't think hillary clinton has many and it wouldn't be her first priority of overturning some of the obama executive orders. certainly donald trump would. george w. bush did as soon as he came in. i made to look this up last night in particular. there were things that didn't go to executive order but he withdrew the united states from participation in international

organization -- helping out. >> he reversed the arsenic in the drinking water. >> right spirit clinton on his last day in office clinton put out a few executive orders that were designed entirely to inflict political paint on george w. bush including regulating the levels of arsenic in drinking water. there was one on what's called a mexico city language which has to do with family planning. it's actually a good question and we of all people are not going to cast any aspersions up people who seem like they are not experts. the interesting one, they could issue executive orders that they don't tell us about. as this president has done. so that could conceivably be a path to overturn some things without us ever really necessarily knowing.

that challenge is keeping it under wraps is very difficult because the agencies that are effective -- affected will have their own interest in talking to reporters. congress whenever they are briefed just talk. they don't have to make a big announcement. >> is that the notification unless there's some exception? >> remember when obama removed the drone program. >> but that's an exception. >> two days later signed another he did knows about that kept the drone program. that's one of the challenges, how do you find out. >> primarily national security. >> primarily national security where they can hide it. they can put that out on a saturday and make it harder to get that report to really get picked up by the public. >> one other thing that just occurred to me to be aware of, going from one president to the

next, is that george w. bush pioneered the use of signing statements when he signed a bill. he would sign a bill and then he would have a sunny statement in which he basically said i don't agree with this part of it so i'm not going to enforce that part. it was challenged but it stands and democrats criticized it, you know, very strongly. one of my colleagues charlie savage when he was at "the boston globe" wrote a story about this that won the pulitzer prize. obama was a critic but he, far less extensive than bush but he indicated where he would not feel like endorsing the law. a president drop let's say these people, his legislative council and others could look at some of these past laws and see what leeway the previous president lincoln by way of the signing statements. >> but again is also a savvy in the realm of defense and

national security, tends to be where -- >> charlie was not a white house correspondent. he picked up on something that we ask the white house press corps kind of company become so routine we didn't necessarily see the story. we're all aware of it. we all talked about it. it comes as outsider, like weight really? you can just set aside this part of the law? he wrote the piece, it's something any aspiring reporter should beware. there are plenty of stories that are sitting right out there in plain view and the more specialized press corps might not realize it's a story. >> definitely not access stories and let access from some legal export who has figure out what's going on. >> before i go to the next question from the audience, our panelists have talked a lot about getting to know people who are involved in the transition and getting to know the people on the hill who support either

presidential candidate. how do you do that in a hurry in the age of multiplatform journalism where you may need to send a tweet, to a snapchat, file for dot com and by the way, there's this thing called the next day print edition. kimberly, you have some experience with this from political. what are your tips to background in someone in our? >> sometimes you just have to figure out where they're going to be and find them at a public event, even if you can just get infected with a person, that could be critical so they at least know your name. that's one strategy. there's always the basic reporting, call up somebody, asked them to get copy. sometimes people are willing to do that. just keeping track of some of schedule can be an important way to do that, a critical way to find somebody. handed them your card. >> in the old days when i covered transitions both on the hill and in congress i used to keep files in every texan when i

forget of the "dallas morning news" washington bureau. on every texan who might be joining an administration just to see what he or she knows. but i can't do that anymore in a digital age. other questions from the audience? anyone? in the back. >> olivier, your bio suggests we should ask you about the shoe throwing incident, and i'm very serious spirit is the ultimate accessory. you all looked too young to remember it in real-time to president george w. bush did a final trip to iraq and afghanistan in late 2008. i was part of the press pool. we have this joint press event with then iraqi prime minister nouri al-maliki in one of the palaces. as they stood there at their two podiums, american press sitting where you guys are, iraq

interest were you guys are. a small black object sailed over our collective heads. the president avoided it, and after determining it was not the kind of small black object that goes boom, we realized it was a wing tip, some kind of shoe anyway this egyptian reporter had hurled his first of two shoes after president bush. you can probably find me and my wonderful chin on the internet. we all kept her eyes on the president because that's our job. do two things i would do it is the secret service had flocked to this guy as a potential problem and the others if you'd waited another 90 seconds you would hit the president because at the podium, although the later he was sitting, he would've been sitting in his high backed chair with my arms really have the end of the which he could get away with it.

>> jim carroll from the university of maryland. >> just endemic don't for the christmas white house christmas party after that incident, i asked the president in my two minutes with him if he had hurt a lot of jokes about it, and he said yeah, the guy who threw it was a shoenni. stole that from someone in the press corps. >> that sounds like his humor. agenda than in the white shirt. >> i was just wondering what was the the presence response speak what he was a i was going to be the lead to the story. is all about tying up loose ends with both countries, and so he was annoyed that every newscast in every news outlet, everyone writing about this trip will down the stairwell to the two countries, it was entirely this

crazy thing happened. this guy threw a shoe, so he was pretty annoyed about it. they understood what was, they understood that the president was going to focus on that but they were not particularly pleased with it. >> we wanted to give a lot jacqui go ahead. >> there was a question over here. sorry. >> so when you are looking at how to approach coverage of a transition time is there any differences you can think of between a same party transition and an opposite party transition and how you approach that coverage? >> market? they would be more continuity. in this case it would be more continuity, popping up in every single case but if you look already just between the obama white house and the clinton campaign, you can teachers on the campaign site so many

commonalities. like john podesta worked for bill clinton and he was at the center for american progress which is like the clinton campaign in waiting and now he's with clinton. he was on obama's transition team. there's a lot of that continuity. clinton's communication director now had that role at the white house before, do before then she was a longtime democratic out and before that she was at the clinton white house. indicates the obama to clinton you see people away from bill clinton to obama to clinton campaign who would have a role in the clinton world. obviously, a transition from obama to drop with a completely different -- drop. i can't think of anybody. >> i was listening in the last panel and bill and and even the right seem to agree that can be more tension with a democrat to democrat or republican and republican transition then

different parties. and that is, i didn't really agree but i deferred to them, especially in media doesn't our transitions. i think if al gore had been elected president, there might've been, the death and would've some change because after their initial bromance between president clinton and vice president gore early in the administration and through the campaign, like the end of the administration there was so much tension as manifested in fact that al gore did not really want bill clinton and i think to al gore's everlasting detriment did not want bill clinton campaigning for and. i think it would've been, that would've been one weather was tension. the most tension i experienced were covered was that from clinton, well, allegedly clinton, there's dispute, from clinton to george w. bush where

the staffers took the w's off the keyboard and a lot of them to speak out or how widespread it was. >> the recent they since the intraparty stuff, what are the most famously terrible transitions was reagan into george h. w. bush. if you talk to people who are actually legit, all they do is transition politics, able to every time that was a terrible transition. there were a lot of people in the reagan administration who just assumed they would still have the same job or be promoted, and they were not. that caused a lot of acrimony. there was some policy changes as well. that's why those folks we're talking about, and intraparty. the only thing i covered very close with clinton into w. the thing that struck me was how, actually a fairly transparent the bush administration was because they really wanted to talk about the changes. they really wanted to talk about

this was true under clinton, it is not true under this president. so it was policy, personal, all these other things. they were really aggressive about talking and revealing things, even the executive orders which i thought they would be cautious with, there were like no, we are rolling it back. we will take this down. i wouldn't say there's any one hard and fast rule for whether they are better or worse, but certainly the w. one felt relatively open anyway that they were changing things around. >> i think the bush to obama actually was okay. i mean, on the stuff that mattered, like on the national study stuff, on being able to literally find files and information and stuff. i think the bush team was kind of a class act about at the obama team decided to be a class act on the receiving side. i may be causing it over. >> i was not there was this

great irony in that bill clinton bequeathed george w. bush an atmosphere of total like peace and prosperity, no wars, a surplus for the year of like roughly nearly $300 billion 1.6 trillion projected as a surplus for the next five years. and yet clinton did, bill clinton did next to nothing to ease the transition to the w. bush administration. conversely george w. bush pages later would bequeathed brought obama to worse and the greatest recession since the '30s. and yet he did maybe the most spectacular job of transitioning between two different party presidents of any president to date. the obama people have been very complementary of that, even if they made would've preferred the other way around, keys and

prosperity. >> in a clinton white house, it would be really interesting to see if the obama people are being picked over, the bill clinton people are at the go clinton people are being picked over the obama people. that's one thing to look out. >> a very good point. >> a trump white house to a lot of people, other people coming in wanting to look at some of these agencies come as breast is like forcing we don't need them? that's another thing to look for. >> let's talk about the a transition that might occur. that does affect the white house as well and that is a possibility that the senate could go back into democratic hands. what are some the tips you would have about paying attention to congress -- >> you can continue watching the forum on presidential transitions online. go to c-span's video library. we will leave it now and take you live to the white house where president obama will be

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[silence] good morning. today is bittersweet for michele and i because this marks the final official visit and state dinner of my presidency. but, it's okay. we saved the best for last. so on behalf of michelle and myself, and on behalf of the american people, it is is my great honor to welcome from

italy prime minister matteo renzi. as americans and italians, we are here because of each other. america's founding father washington, jefferson, adams drew information from cicero and cato. prime minister matteo renzi, you have spoken about this soldiers of world war ii who liberated italy so families like yours could live in freedom. today we paid tribute to all those who risk their lives and all who gave their lives including the heroes of the italian resistance so we can stand here today as to free peoples.

on a personal level, today today is a chance for michele and me to reciprocate the incredible warmth and hospitality that they're telling people have shown us on each of our visits to italy. years ago michele and i traveled through tuscany, back when we didn't have kids, so we could have a really good time. do you remember that? then in my first term, we brought our daughters to rome to experience the timeless beauty of the eternal city. when michele and our daughters and my mother-in-law went to milan for last year's expo which has prompted michelle to ask the question, when can we go back. this visit also reflects a deep friendship between our two peoples and americans love all

things italian. we love the food, the fashion, the wine, sophia lorenz and nowhere does our love for italy run deeper than among the millions of very proud italian-americans, including those here today. now i am not fortunate enough to claim italian ancestry myself even though my name does and in a bowel, but i do consider myself and honorary italian. i was raised by my grandmother and as any italian will tell you, you listen to your nana. the white house garden now contains tomatoes and garlic.

immigrants who often came here with nothing who had to learn the language and build lives and overcome prejudicing discrimination, relying on the love of family and strength of their faith and have gone on to succeed in every walk of life, we see a truth that we must never forget, and that is that america was built by immigrants. america is stronger because of immigrants and america is great because of immigrants. [applause] as president, i am especially grateful with my partnership with my good friend matteo renzi. he is young, handsome, put forth a vision of goodness that's not rooted in fear but rather their hopes. he knows that as nations as individuals we have the power to achieve great change. in italy he is challenging the

status quo with bold reforms. he likes to tweet a lot. we also have in common the wisdom to mary remarkable women leaders in their own right who dedicated their efforts to giving children every opportunity to succeed including a good education to our sons and our daughters. i am told there is an italian saying, roughly translated, it means clear conditions lead to long friendships. constantly in the united states, the underlying conditions could not be more clear. we are united by our interests and our values. our love of liberty and commitment to the dignity of every human being.

i can say without hesitation that italy is one of our strongest allies and closest friends. in italy, we have a partner with whom we share a common vision. inclusive growing economies that reduced injustice and inequality. a europe that is whole and free and at peace. a strong nato alliance committed to our collective defense and united against terrorism. empathy for the migrant and compassion for the refugees. partners in clean energy as our generation takes the boldest ups ever to save our planet from climate change, and partners and development because when italians and americans work together, we can help save the world's most vulnerable people from hunger and disease. as our italian friends know matteo renzi began his life of faith and service in the scouts.

ever since, he has been guided by the words of the scout founder, leave this world a little better than you found it. we are proud to call you allies and friends today and always because we know when we stand together, we can leave the world a little better than we found it. to all of you, welcome to the united states. [applause] >> mr. president, mrs. obama, my

friends, thank you for such a warm welcome here. president obama organized everything, also the sun incredible organization. we are delighted to be here. it's an incredible honor and an incredible gift. this opportunity to celebrate the relationship between our nations. we are so excited for this occasion and this opportunity. the friendship and the bond between our countries has never been so strong, so deep and so wide. italy and the united states worked together globally fighting terrorism, providing

security, creating economic opportunity. but i think mr. president, if you think about our history five centuries ago a young italian gave his name to america in 70 years ago so many americans sacrifice their life to give freedom back to italy. thank you again to these people. [applause] today we are together, facing a challenge to give a new name to a new era, a new season of opportunities. my personal opinion is the name of the future has to be freedom. the name of the future has to be

education, not intolerance. the name of the future. [inaudible] in a time of fear we have to keep hope not only in the united states. mr. president the romans used to say history is a teacher of life we think history will be kind with you, mr. president. under your leadership a country under crisis started going can.

after day you have made changes that improved lives, environment, environment and created opportunities for poor people. i think there are a lot of people who think that politics is only about screaming, fighting each other you are different, mr. president. we are different. we think politics can make a difference and this is the reason because we love history but at the same time we need our future. italian italy has many magnificent personalities of the past but they are not our future. our children are the future of

the new generation and i think italy is ready to build with united states of america, a great season of new opportunities, a future with common based on strength, education, culture, self power. the real great bond between the united states and italy. so, mr. president, we use an expression. [speaking in native tongue] it means our mission is not for brutality but for value and knowledge. this is the choice for us today. this is the mission for new politicians.

this is the ambition. i think we will never be tired of being a true friend, a partner of the united states of america. in this spirit, thank you so much for your leadership mr. president, and thank you so much for your friendship. we are so honored to be here because this is about our identity. viva italy. viva united states. [applause]

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♪ ♪ [applause] ♪ >> president obama and the prime minister matteo renzi heading inside for their one-on-one meeting before their joint news conference. cspan will have that live at 11:40 a.m. eastern time. tonight the state dinner for the italian leader and his wife. we will take you there live on c-span at 6:30 p.m. and inside the white house for the official grand staircase photo and dinner toast, all live on c-span. the italian investor to the united states will be attending the dinner as well. he shares his thoughts on the

preparation and u.s. relations with italy. >> how did the state visits come about with the italian prime minister. >> it's an important event that is a sign of a specialand a relationship with the united states. there's also a specialee relationship between president barack obama and matteo renzi. >> how did italy get selected for what could be the presidents last state dinner? >> it was a long standing tradition with relations between italy in the united states. we are partners and allies, we have very strong important community here in the united states.e our two leaders share the same view of many international topics. they do consider the democracy together and both the unitedav states and italy have a special responsibility. >> why do you think now?

it has been eight years, why now, italy? >> italy next year will be a member of the united nationsouncil. security council. next year in march we will be celebrating 60 years of the eu. it is important that italy is a prominent member of the eu for the importance of european integration. i think also this european framework will be among discussion of president obama and prime minister matteo renzi. >> describe our relationship the u.s. italian relationship. where are we working together? >> we have military standing side-by-side, we share responsibility and our common endeavor to fight terrorism. we want to tackle the global

issues drinking from climate change from terrorism. we share the same interest and the same approach. >> what's going on at the embassy this week as you prepare for the state dinner. >> as you can see, it's active and lively, there's a great sense sense of excitement.ll we are excited by this event. we have many, many things to care about, but the things that my staff are excited. >> the prime minister, what kind of leader is he? what what should the american people know about him. >> he is very, very dynamic. he is the youngest prime minister ever in italy. he brings the sense of italian personality that the american

audience will come to know and love a young guy. >> americans will see him with his wife. they will have arrival at the white house and they will see the pageantry that goes into the type of visit like this. what's the coordination like with the prime minister's office and our government. >> it runs very smoothly. we have staff at the white house and the secret service and there's many details to work out.y event, that this is a happy event, a celebration and we are happy we can share with our friends and colleagues at this moment. >> any special protocol for theal italian prime ministers.s. >> the protocol.

[inaudible] we will follow the procedures with a jolly spirit and i think that's what really matters as that's what we consider this a celebration of friendship, a longtime friendship, but also to draw a common sense of the future. >> what is that future agenda looking like? what's the common ground? you talked about the military, but where else? what will they talk about when they hold their joint news conference. >> if i could draw the line between the different topics and challenges, both leaders share the same approach. we did consider globalizationrs, greare requires, on the part of leaders, great care. we have to harness this process but we rest convinced that there are many opportunities ahead of us. >> does the prime minister have any concerns that he will talk to the president about his meetings behind closed doors.

>> the two leaders know each other very well, they have manytional meetings in different international forums. they know each other very well. i think what the prime minister will bring here, i won't say concern, but a deep, understanding that in order to tackle these issues, ourha countries and democracies have to build bridges and stay th connected because integration is the only way to harness this problem. >> what do you think the italian people are hoping to get out of this visit with their country, for their leader to come here? will they be watching? >> i am sure. italians are excited. i am sure when president obamafi l and first lady together with the prime minister and his spousee will be seen together at the

white house, i think this will be a great image. it will give the sign of a strong bond and our fellow italians will love it. >> mr. amb., think you for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up in just about ten minutes, five coverage as of of forum on globalization and pluralism. that will be on c-span2 at 10:00 o'clock time. until that begins, author and former nba player kareem abdul jabbar. he talked about race relations and his latest inspirations for his book writings on the wall, searching for equality beyond black-and-white. >> good afternoon and welcome to

the national press club. my name is thomas burr i'm the washington correspondent for the salt lake tribune and the 109th president of the national press club. our guest is kareem abdul jabbar. i would like to welcome public radio and c-span audience but i want to remind you you can follow the action live on twitter. now it's time to introduce our head table guest. i ask you some to stand as i mention your name. mr. wilber washington correspondent for the new york times who covers the justice department. mr. lori, reporter at the washington post. mrs. richardson with airbnb. bruce johnson reporter and anchor at w usa tv. john hughes, editor for bloomberg's first were d.c. and

the 108th president of the national press club. eric holder, the former atty. general of the united states. skipping over our speaker for just a moment, health policy correspondent for npr. thank you allison. founder of icon ami llc, the international consulting firm representing our speaker and his manager. clair, staff writer at the ringer. michael michael fletcher, writer at the espn undefeated and senior staff writer for diverse issues in higher education. thank you all. >> it's not often at our podium we have someone who is a major celebrity, a star athlete, athlete, and an accomplished journalist.

today we do. kareem abdul jabbar is known to most of the world is one of the greatest basketball players of all time he led ucla to three consecutive championship and burst into the nba in 1969. nine. with his trademark skyhook, he dominated the league winning six championships and being named in all-star 19 of his 20 years. even though he hasn't played in 30 years, he remains the nba all-time leading scorer. that would've been enough to invite him to speak with us today, but that wasn't enough. he has become the author of more than a dozen books ranging from world war history and sherlock holmes. his latest book is writings on the wall searching for new equality beyond black-and-white. he writes regularly for the washington post and "time" magazine and recently wrote an article praising colin

kaepernick who has been protesting by taking any during the national anthem. he works to bring educational opportunities to kids in his community. if this is an enough, let's not forget his 1980 comedy airplane. he wants his new book to start a dialogue about social injustice in america. we hope this luncheon will be part of the conversation. ladies and gentlemen, please give a warm national press club welcome to the tallest man ever to stand behind this podium, kareem abdul jabbar. [applause] >> good afternoon, thank you very much. thank you for the great

introduction. i guess a lot of people are curious to know why i wrote this book. usually they expect me to write about hoops or one of my other favorite subjects that goes through my fevered brain, but i had to do this book because it was very important to me because of what i've seen going out on in our country. it's interesting that i get a chance to talk to air colder about some of these issues because it is something that has affected our nation for such a long time and we are just now at the point where we can talk about these things and try to find a solution. that's really my motivation. i have several suggestions in the book about how we could deal with some of the issues.

i talk about all types of things, race, aging, a little bit about hoops, and just how it got to a point where we can speak to each other. i have been inspired by the founding fathers and the way they were able to come to a consensus and figure out how to leave us with a document that enabled us to have this great nation that we have. we have to keep this in mind because unless you can listen with an open mind, or express yourself without bitterness, you can't have a communication or that dialogue. that's the one thing that we need. have too many people talking past each other and giving into all of their emotional issues and the things that drive them crazy but they don't have the

ability to listen to the other side as to what their issues are that's what my book is about. i have been getting a great response and i am very thankful for that because we need to continue to do the work that has been left to us. dr. martin luther king said we had work to do and he really defined it before he left us. all the issues having to do with economic inequality and the denial of political and civil rights in our society. this has been a problem for us since the origin of our republican but we are just now getting to the point where we can talk about it. my book is here to encourage us

to start this conversation. you mentioned colin kaepernick and i had a chance to talk to him before he did something really crazy and he handled it well. he is handling himself very well. he wants to make our country a better place for the same reason i do. he is going to get there. he just has to do what he feels is necessary to get people to start thinking about these things. i'm happy to see that the movement is spreading throughout some of the other professional sports leagues, the nfl definitely in the nba is getting in there. lebron james and dwayne wade and carmelo anthony all had something to say about the same

issue that colin kaepernick is talking about and they're doing it in a way that invites discussion and a reasonable conversation as opposed to making people angry. that's what i want, i'm happy to see that's how it's worked out. that's what you have in your hands pretty few have copies of your book, that's what you will be reading about and i hope you enjoy it. i hope you get something from it and i hope you can encourage some of the people you know to speak their mind on these subjects and let's get to work on solving these problems. thank you all for your attention. [applause] >> thank you, let's continue that conversation. dr. martin luther king spoke in this room in 1962, obviously trying two, obviously trying to work in the several rights movement. it's been a long time but were

still dealing with a lot of racial issues. how we moved forward in this conversation? isn't neighbor to neighbor, is it evidence like this? >> i think it absolutely has to be neighbor to neighbor. for people in minority communities, sometimes they don't understand who their neighbors are. one of the things i am hoping for his people in minority communities, instead of talking about the police they start talking about our police. when they can do that that means a bridge has been built. going from one side to another. when the police department and various law-enforcement agencies get to the point where instead of talking about those people they talk about the people that we serve and protect, that's another foothold for a bridge. those bridges can connect. i think that is what we want to get to where we have people who

need to be talking to each other to start that conversation. >> i think what you're telling us, i understand it correctly, we have to start the us and them mentality that appears out there it helps to understand and know somebody better, to start this conversation, it has to be a sit down and i understand what my friend here thinks and we both have a conversation together. >> it has to be about us. we can't be about my side and their side. it has to be about us because we are all fellow citizen. you may have your own political point of view but the people that you see every day in the communities where you live, they are your fellow citizens and you have to have a means to communicate with them to get to solve problems. it starts with the first conversation and it ends when the problems are solved. :

is horrible your we can't continue to have these things happening. but the mindset that the police installed sometimes, sometimes in their officers really lends to