lowest level without getting every patient into a mini of doctor patient relationship built on trust. that's where the medicaid system fails because it onto the complement a specialist in primary care physicians to do with the governor wants to do with the expansion and i'm deeply concerned with the cost will be because the cares and the emergency room. we want high-quality health care and that means focusing on quality, getting people the doctor patient relationship, making sure everything is focused on true transparency and cost equality so everybody with it position patient can make good judgment calls on what's appropriate. when a competition to bring those costs down and we need to put the family back in control of their health care. not insurance bureaucrats, not bureaucrats in washington, the decision-makers and family so we get back to a system we can be proud of. >> thank you.

mr. fleming. .. i would also remind my democrat friends that it still $700 billion from medicare. medicare is going broke. absolute nonsense. we need to move forth into the 21st century, have patient-centered care and make sure we give the choices and options to the patient and the doctor. not mandates from washington. thank you.

[inaudible] >> very briefly, i have never said i agree with 80% of obamacare. that is absolutely false. the times i said we could find some agreement was prior to obamacare well before that when we were talking in a by personally about what meaningful health care could look like which is what i just outlined in my position. >> real quickly. >> we have documented you have said that. you can run but you can't hide, charles. >> thanks that much. our next question comes from greg with the "usa today" network. >> according to a poll conducted by the southern media and opinion research more than half of those surveyed think the country should be somewhat or very involved in foreign affairs. we learned this past weekend the u.s. is providing both air and ground support to iraqi forces in an attempt to retake mosul

from isis. do you support this action and do you believe the u.s. has any obligation to be involved in global conflicts? >> i do support the efforts to take back mosul and i believe we must support the kurds in doing so and iraqi troops on the ground. we are doing so. the recent mosul is important is it's a strategic city for both oil and money and it's a way to defund and destabilize isis. the truth of the matter is but whether the united states needs to be involved in foreign affairs is that we are. we are the greatest country the world has ever known. they are coming to us. we've seen this with acts of domestic terrorism database on a radical jihad is ideology. have to be prepared and take the lead. we have to support our allies on the ground and make sure national steady-state strong. there's a couple of things. it's fighting the ideology. its increasing airstrikes and its supporting our allies in the

middle east and other areas that are going to promote our democratic values. >> i support it. i do support that. i'm worried about russia's power and what they're doing in the world today and what about iran and influence in this area of the world. i'm ready to help but there's one provision. i want to see our allies really help themselves. i don't think we can be, we can't protect the world. i want to make sure we are over there, fighting but we have full help from allies we have. i don't want us to be the only one trying to lease the world. >> moderator: mr. boustany? >> thank you. we will have chaos without american leadership in that is clear to me. we would not be going back to retake mosul from isis if we had a strategy over the past eight years. the obama administration has waffled and drifted from crisis to crisis.

we love parts of iraq to i of iraq to i said because there is no strategy to deal with the aftermath. we need a strategy and under the element. three years ago when a so we're fully of drift. we need to have a safe zone across the turkish and iraqi border. we need to do that quickly. the air the boots on the ground, we provide air coverage and intelligence capabilities. we can consolidate a working coalition, not on paper. and we can roll back isis, rollback the financial sector we also need economic cited you with the oil transactions which are ongoing. this administration has to strategy and that's why we need a u.s. senator who understands the complexity and can provide input and guidance and real leadership on a strategy to defeat i suspended you with all of our foreign policy issues. >> as someone who serve in military, no one else on the stage has ever served in the military, someone who served on the house armed services now

what else is either. i me with privates and four-star generals all the time to talk about these problems. wonder the things that concerns me is the disaster greater than the middle east by john kerry as secretary of state. we have someone here tonight, john kennedy who endorsed john kerry for president back a ways ago. that was his mentor. i hope john has changed his view on things but he was a big supporter when he was the liberal democrat john kerry. we need to go and destroy isis. i fully support that. i don't want to our troops on the frontline but did you need be there in a support role. we need to do bombing and all the isr, the eyes on the battlefield necessary to make that happen. >> mr. kennedy. >> when you're getting kicked in the rear the, if you sinjar out front. i do support the american airstrikes pressing practical for the. i think without to fully arm the kurdish, the kurds, the first

mega -- peshmerga, excuse me, and turn them loose. there's a larger problem on international affairs. our enemies no longer respect us. and our friends no longer trust us he does of resident obama's policy. he although is not responsible. do you know who else is responsible? the united states congress, because the of sat there for eight years and they talk tough and they of half and they have path, and then you done nothing about it. look, america is the strongest country in the history of the world. we need to start acting like it. that's how we win the war on terror. >> moderator: thank you very much. follow-up? [inaudible] >> boots on the ground, actual use boots on the ground not just there but what would it take in any of these foreign topics for

you to support that? >> it has to be an absolute last resort for our most precious resource, which is american troops and then into conflict with out an exit strategy. i'm not in favor of taking any option off the table and getting what an inning they present to us but i understand we need to work in partnership with the occupant of the white house, whoever that may be once this election cycle is over, as well as our generals and our military intelligence folks to make the right decision. right now we need to support the troops that are on the ground, the iraqis and the kurds. we need to airstrikes and be able to fully have the coalition of partners to the united states to make sure we defeat ices speed of these are 30-second responses. mr. campbell. >> i would have to consult with all our military leaders, the

cia, fbi, everybody to see if this was something that had to happen. it would be very, very hard for me to commit our men on the ground, women, on the ground had i know, i would have to emphatically 100% of our allies were willing to put the same flesh into the game. i would have to know that. >> i am very concerned about that because we've done a lot and other people don't seem help us as much an unlikely to commit our troops without them. >> you have to understand the utility of force and when it's appropriate and when it's not. secondly, i guess what the situation of mosul because we have a clear objective in mosul, our special ops guys on the ground have a clear objective. you have to have clear objectives. there has to be the ends and means have to match up to these troops have to be properly resourced and there has to be a strategy. you cannot commit troops on the ground, american lives, without

a strategy, a clear-cut strategy to it has to be well thought out. in world war ii we had a clear strategy. we also at a clear plan for what is going to happen in the aftermath. that's been missing and that's what we're going back into mosul putting american lives at risk again. that's got to stop. we need a strategy. >> moderator: thank you. >> i hate to break the news but we already have a boots on the ground. we have almost 5000 troops, american troops. the whole problem and i think congressman boost any code outlined of this is president obama jerked all of our troops out, did not get a status and forces agreement and there was a vacuum that we now have isis to do with the it's a big problem. the president been quietly putting troops back in and that's fine but we'll have to continue to build those but hopefully we can train the iraqis troops and others to do the fighting force but we have to provide support.

we do have troops on the ground i'm not sure where 5000 but we do have american troops there. the problem in the middle east is that it's primarily not our problem. the other problem is the only two groups who seem to know how to fight isis and the peshmerga troops with the kurds. where is the saudi arabia? where's egypt? where's jordan? where's the united arab emirates? the war help for those who help themselves, ma and before i commit more american troops i want to see the folks in the middle east of its their region of the world, i want to see them contribute something in this effort can thank you very much, gentlemen, and lady. i debate comes from the campus of louisiana tech. let's see what students had to say about issues that are important to them. >> for the upcoming election, louisiana public broadcasting recently sat down with some students from louisiana tech to

see what issues are on their minds. the group had a diverse list of concerns to help louisiana's next senator will address. >> i think it's important our senators focused on who the next president is going to nominate for the supreme court. >> one thing that is important to me is our veterans. i am a military brat myself, just the mental health of our veterans. >> i want a focuses on making louisiana estate that hope to live in. >> it's important to get how we can make education competitive but still affordable speed despite their varied interests all the students shared a common desire for louisiana's next senator to work with members of the opposing party when the victor makes it to washington. >> a person has to be very open to compromise your i feel like in the past especially in the past generation, either left or right, it's either black or white and i feel like with this new push that young people we

are very gray. i would want someone who's going to be open to compromise, the from, the firm but also want the best for the country and want the best for the state of louisiana. >> moderator: as willard in the video, millennials said basic issues in shades of gray but according to the poll conducted by subcommittee and opinion research 50% of those surveyed would rather the next u.s. senator stand up for their position rather than compromise with others, even if it slows legislative action. but the package for flood relief for south louisiana passed that very last moment to do washington dysfunction. would you be the type to stick to your guns or work to compromise? what is your past experience, what demonstrates that in your past experience? will begin with mr. campbell. >> that's a great question. would you compromise.

sometimes i been hard to cover must the things i really believe in. i might be a little fault, all too hardheaded so people say but i've been very successful as a politician. i'm one of the few a. who calls out a politician. i'm a politician i've got four years experience. i've done some great things for louisiana. when i was in the legislature, mike foster was governor. he did want to sue the tobacco companies. we sued them. it gives me to every classroom in louisiana. i think you have to know how to compromise and work with people. i served with david vitter. he had very, very few friends and very few friends in the united states senator qaeda what to do the. i want to go to the senate to make friends and want to work for the people of louisiana like i worked for the people, work for the people of louisiana. i know how to compromise, i got to get things done. i can do it. i've been doing it for years.

>> regardless of who is president or who is in leadership party is in control, i believe you have to get results and that's been my record in public service. from hurricanes katrina and rita, working across the aisle to get the message it assistance. i've been able to get those things done. veterans clinics your iphone hard, i worked very hard to get to veterans clinics for our veterans who are underserved, having to travel miles. i had to take a my leadership. i to take on the president and i was able to get a done. i stated to conservative principles. you have to get results. the latest thing, let's episode was with flood relief. this almost fell apart on the very day we voted to get it done. my actions work along with sinjar richmond in a bipartisan way, we were able to salvage the deal at the very in to make sure it came to a floor vote and the government relief. i have a record of doing this.

i don't cover must principles by get results. >> i am always happy to compromise with people on pieces of legislation, always the best of america. but i will never compromise my values, the constitution or my principles. it is one thing to get things done. it's another thing to get the right things done. again congressman boustany has gotten some things done like voting to raise the debt limit five times. he voted for the big bank bailouts. he voted for cash for clunkers, for heaven's sake. very few republicans voted for that. we've got to get right. we need to stand up for america's. we have a $20 trillion national debt. we are going to stop compromising on that? we need to begin cutting spending and we need to gather together to reform washington. as your next u.s. senator, that is exactly what i am going to do. thank you.

>> i think most louisianians understand that i tried to be rude but i speak my mind. i've been willing to stand up to politicians more powerful than me for both parties. with i thought it was in the taxpayers interest. having said that under proud of my legislative record. i convinced the louisiana legislature to sell 60% of the tobacco settlement income, let me take that $1.2 billion put into a trust fund. they didn't spend a penny. it's protected in the constitution. i convinced the louisiana legislature to allow me to use the unclaimed property program to leverage bonds to a finish i-49 north activate a meaningful start i-49 south. i can this louisiana legislature to allow me to invest in israel bonds. i had to explain to them what i was doing.

it's been one of the best investments louisiana has ever made. so i'm very proud of my legislative record. >> i was in the legislature at the time we got the money for the tobacco company. and you didn't vote on that. he wasn't in the legislature and you didn't convince the legislature to say that money. we voted on that. you had the vote so don't tell these people tonight that you convinced the legislature. you had no vote. you where the treasure. you with the treasurer. he might've suggested that you might have been for it but you didn't vote for it because you had no vote. don't tell people that you put $1 billion away. i put a bill giveaway for the trust fund. you didn't have one vote to nine mr. campbell we will have 30 seconds respond. >> you are wrong. you are just wrong. i mean, we had a bill, i don't know if you're still in the legislature to sell or securitize the tobacco settlement income stream.

we raise $1.2 billion. now, we convinced not a single legislator, not one to touch a penny of that and let me put into a trust fund. you were there, you're right, you voted on the trust fund but i convinced them along with some of the really good people to allow us, it was a pretty easy sell to convince them to sell a. what was tough was to get into put all $1.2 billion in a trust fund. we did that i am very proud of it cannot i imagine fact-checking will be all over the place on this one. right now will be going to do is go to ms. fayard for the last one. ms. fayard, to you. >> i'm going to let everyone else on the state of things and claim credit and try to answer the question. i believe the question was about the flood package and particularly would you be willing to compromise. let me make a pledge to all of you that are listening tonight and in the audience. i've always good louisiana

families first. i mostly to do what is right and in the best interest of our state. what's in the best interest of our state is making sure that at the 54 after the 64 parishes that have been affected by flooding in 2016, is people get back on their feet and back in their homes. we have to compromise. i will say because i'm one of 99, have to make is with 19 other people. it's 100 people in the senator you can't bolt away. pakistan for valley. i'm not going to cop muslim values whether it is pro-life, whether it's about caring for the american worker but i will play this. i'm also not going to be playing politics so the people are not in their homes. i'm going to do what's right for our families in louisiana. >> the next question comes from elizabeth. >> the stafford act as a private federal statute that guides the nation's response to federal disasters. the recent disaster this come

under increased ready for the tight restrictions it places on how fema money can be spent but there are concerns over what some see as listening criteria for obtaining federal disaster declarations that end up costing the country millions. do you believe the stafford act needs to be reformed, and if so how would you change it? >> we took one step after the 2005 hurricanes comes to the property separate money at the time that we did that, we created a separate fund, disaster relief fund to put this on budget rather than having it off budget edges have an endless way spending money. the stafford act needs to be reformed because fema is not flexible. i've dealt with this over the time, for different hurricanes and the recent flood. they are not flexible. they rotate people in a not so many people at the start over. half the time they don't know what's going on. they give misinformation to be

misled local governments across our local governments lots of money. we've had to go back and fight to rectify that problem. the fact of the matter is yes, the stafford act definitely needs reform. we need much more flexibility in fema. fema must be much more responsive to local governments in the stakeholders they serve. that is a fundamental issue. i will do that as our next u.s. senator. >> i was actually in baton rouge woman had this most recent flood event, and i toured afterwards, watching how people guided their homes, put their memorabilia, everything that out on the street as trash. it was really a sad situation. i worked with my colleagues among our louisiana delegation to the proper funding that would go forward with that and we started with that with approximate $500 billion. there's more to be done and to support all that. there's another area in floods that a lot of people are being affected and that is the flood

premiums. they have gone skyrocketing in the last few years. i supported and helped lead the effort to make sure that we got relief for homeowners so they couldn't be forced to be pushed out of their homes. i supported and voted for the karen cassidy act. however, congress imposed any did not vote for that. i think it's important we all get behind the important measures that are necessary. >> mr. kennedy. >> if i make it to heaven, the first question of when ask god is why bad things happen to good people because i don't understand. we had a lot of really bad things happen to a lot of really good people issued in louisiana. the march, flood was devastating. it was horrific. our people need help and the stafford act can provide it. there some changes we need to make but limited one of the most important changes. we need to require fema to listen.

we need to require fema to involve our state officials, our local officials, our levee board officials. and a great taxpayers when they're making these decisions about where you can build and where you can't build, and how i got to have come out of a job and whether you can't elevate, or whether to shut elevate your home at all. that's the biggest thing lacking in the stafford act. you have these bureaucrats from a four in washington, d.c. you have to get a permission slip to do anything. >> we need to reform the stafford act. i was just placed because of hurricane katrina. by judge hurricane katrina. mby judge that is that although the resulting katrina litigation. we dealt extensively with fema ticket and was called the hotel motel program. fema was time to push people out of the housing migrant thanksgiving and christmas and there was a lot of litigation.

i don't extensively for gaps in the law at that time. there have been some improvements but they're not enough. particularly would think about the recent flooding event. renters are not particularly addressed at all by fema or the stafford act. we know that given the downturn in housing crisis over, since 2008 and before, people are struggling to stay in homes and have homeownership much less renters. we need to make reforms that address that. we need to focus on the national flood insurance program. we need to reauthorize it and we need to cut administrative costs which are as high as 30%. >> i know a little bit about flooding to my house flooded in march. i was knee-deep in water. every acre was covered all but one and at 150 cows and we swam the out of there. it's a terrible situation. it's terrible because it causes

all kinds of chaos for the family. you have to tear all this stuff out. if you don't have the money is really bad. flood insurance doesn't cover living expenses. we need every kind of program, every kind of new innovation we can get come any kind of act. i'm the only one here that will admit we have been made global warming. we've got it. louisiana is not the same and it's not going to be the same so we need every program we can. we had people in baton rouge who flooded who were no not in a fld zone, never need a flood insurance, never happened in 500 years. our state and country is changing our world is changing the we have man-made global warming. >> i would like to follow-up with each of you. i was one. at each grade the federal response to the most louisiana flood on a scale of one to five with one being unacceptable and five being terrific.

>> i think it's a three. it's gotten better since katrina and rita, increase in progressive improvement but we still have a long way to go. we still see the problems with fema, with the rapid rotation of personnel coming through. we still have problems with fact that there is misinformation put out, oftentimes, so you really need to straighten that part out. we need more continuity and better trained people. [inaudible] >> i would have degrade them to. it was absolutely ridiculous, but the slowness of response according to mayor landrieu, it was five or six days a for this that anybody from the federal government. >> i was given a three so far but it's --

>> honestly if you're not backing home, it is a one. it doesn't matter what i great. theme has been better to make it better but is not good enough and went to keep fighting. >> 2.5. >> all right. jeremy will handle our next question. >> owon lancaster's relationship with the federal government is rocky at best. energy executives are complaining of a regulatory onslaught. most of the key policy drafted are you coming from the white house or from federal agencies, not the u.s. senate, not the u.s. house. there are possible restriction on offshore and onshore drilling. there are also plans about financial assurances and a well-controlled rule. as louisiana's next senator would you view such actions as a regular overreach or inappropriate use of authority?

>> first of all i can tell you as a strong and proven conservative i am very protective of our energy industry is so important in louisiana. i serve on natural resources committee. i'm the subcommittee chairman and we deal with these issues, well bore rules, offshore drilling, all of these things. you are right, jeremy. the federal government is absolutely strangling our energy industry and they're doing it to literally. they are bragging about it. they shut down the coal industry essentially. they're going after the oil industry and 50 natural gas is a transitional fuel. i guess what they want us to do is live on windmills and solar panels, which really don't work. we've got to bring common sense. on all of the above person for sure that we need to let all of these forms of energy compete in the marketplace, get away from the subsidies and other nonsense and get away from the strange writing regulations that are destroying the industry and jo jobs.

>> president obama believes that he can tax, spend and regulate america into prosperity, including our oil and gas industries. apparently congress agrees because for eight years they talk tough but they haven't been thinking about it. here are three things i will try to do. i want to pass a law that says if the bureaucracy proposes a regulation that has a $50 million in back for more, congress gets to vote on it. that's number one. number two, i want to pass a law that says the bureaucracy wants to propose people, that's fine. they have to point to three rules they will get rid of the. number three, i'm going to require a national regulatory budget where we list all 67,000 of the regulations on our oil and gas industry have to comply with the we know how much they cost.

and forth, going to try to pass a bill that would require every rule and regulation to have a sunset provision i back. >> i didn't talk to particularly but you can use your time later to respond. ms. fayard. >> louisiana is in or and gas state. we feed info the nation. it's imperative that the next nt senator takes his cause on and champions are people. we have to balance clean air and clean water and transition energy of the future. we don't want to be left behind as people transition to wind and solar cell need to have an all in approach. for joy our state is beautiful and just give it plenty of resources and a skilled workforce to as long as they have a willing partner to build coalitions which i plan to be. i would also say in the bp litigation we lost 11 fine and because of negligence, because when the company that was chasing the wrong things. there was an overreach response. f. have a champion in the transcendent understand that has

to be a balance on these issues and fighting every day to balance competing interest. that requires leadership, requires compromising time to time but it requires maintaining two-door louisiana values and what a beautiful working coast that we do have. >> i appreciate the question. of course, regulation can be too risky and too little. let's talk about the oil industry. i'm the only one of your i will say that when the oil companies have damaged 30% of the coast that got to pay for it. there's that one cell out there, not once listening to the broadcast would let someone care up your yard without asking to pay for it. but that's what we do because these big oil companies write big checks to politicians. that's the truth. they write the big checks. the politicians do the tap dancing. i don't want desperately to get this big we are the gas stations for america.

the majority, 90% of the oil and gas ever got off the coast of threat to our state. i want our state to be treated fairly, he kept clean and want the oil companies to pay their fair share. that's all i want. nothing more, their fair share. if they tear it up, fix it back. >> we are from louisiana. we are all in the oil and gas industry. this is a vital industry for state and country. i'm the only one who has taken substantive steps in a positive way that ended up in results. i stop the attempt by president obama to tax this industry, $10.25 a barrel tax and tax own expense will and gas operation i stopped that. i get legislation passed to stop the well-controlled rule which is regular overreach. i got passed in the house. is in as the acting. we need a senator who will act in get this done.

the senate needs to act and you need the senator knows how to get this done. that's what i will do in i will do any as soon and i'm the only one of the most important strategic step recover data with oil and gas in the last 50 years. and that is to vote to lift a ban on crude oil exporter i'm proud of that vote. it's a very important vote. why should we give iran the ability to sell anywhere until our energy producers they can't sell oil anywhere but in the u.s.? it's wrong. >> moderator: we've now reached a point in the debate were you the candidates will pose questions to the candidates. these were determined by a prior drawing. they can't let me ask a question for up to 30 seconds. a candidate being asked the question will have one minute to respond and then the rebuttal will come from the questioner, 30 seconds. if it's come to get a, mr. boustany, you are of the first and get the question for ms. fayard. >> thank you.

ms. fayard, during my time in public service i've been a staunch defender of our state's largest industry, one gas. i stop president obama when he wanted to put any tax and every pair of oil. under the effort to increase liquefied natural gas exports come to lift the ban on oil exports to pass bills in the house to stop these unnecessary regulations on this issue i just mentioned. most recently introduceintroduce d legislation to deal with the growing problem of legacy lawsuits. so i want you to clarify your position on the legacy lawsuits issued if you don't mind. >> thank you for the question, charles. i am probably the only practicing one on the state and action am a civil justice attorney. so i'm involved often in large cases where companies and countries go after each other sometimes the company after country. i would counsel the way do i counsel my client. litigation is a means to an end. it's not an end in itself.

it's important he managed expectations, whether its levy lawsuits or its legacy lawsuits. they can be time-consuming and costly, expensive and there are no guarantees. and oftentimes it seems when you have an approach to try to heal the coast the money is not directed where it needs to go. it's going to take for the kind of senator, i will be honest, the senator needs to pull together a coalition of willing partners that will help restore the coast. that means go make the daughters, that means restore act funds, that means taking care penalties for those get access to make sure they're directed to our state's coastal master-planned which is based in science and could help us heal are working coast. >> i appreciate your answer and as you i support this industry good times and bad. i'm still baffled as to baffled by what my republican proposal who suggested raising $1 billion tax on its knees. the voters are looking for someone who is consistent with

the principles, has a proven track record of getting things done. on behalf of our state, that's been my record of seven and will continue to be a champion for our state in the united states senate. >> next, mr. campbell of the question for mr. boustany. >> i would ask a question as a doctor, not as a politician, okay? your physician, no, you have a compassion for people. you told me about it and i respect you. you look after their health and that includes mental health. in louisiana we need help with mental health. it's often forgotten. my question is simple. one of our opponents mr. kennedy hahasn't had where he jokes abot sosa. he says jokingly i would rather drink weedkiller. mental health is the challenge for our state and certainly nothing to joke about. it's very important issue to my family, very important.

imac. >> the question is this, do you think mr. kerry should apologize are joking about suicide? >> let me just say, mr. campbell, appreciate your views, and mental health is not a joking matter for anyone. many families across this country have been affected by it one way or another. we all know somebody was serious mental illness. i have taken steps in my time in service to pass bills, cosponsor bills, most recently enlargement of health reform bill where we have to put on parity with fiscal health and went to take it disappear i do think mr. kennedy should apologize for making this a joking matter. thank you. >> i'd like to say as a dad i am real, real touchy about suicide, they're very touchy. my whole family is. i don't think it's funny. and i really happy for people with mental illness. there's nothing like mental illness. the whole family suffers.

there's no disease like elizabeth a lot of sick people in louisiana who need a lot of help. i didn't like it at all. the first time i heard it come a really made the hair on my neck stand up and i was really sick today but somebody drinking poison that would kill them. i thought it was way out of line. >> moderator: well, ms. fayard, yet the question for mr. kennedy, please. >> like you to enter? >> you are going to have your 30 seconds, your one minute. >> i would rather drink weedkiller then answer that. ms. fayard. >> bobby jindal but our state finances. case you do is a bipartisan effort including the governor and the legislature to try and fix it what of the fixes was refinancing outstanding bond debt that would provide cash sitting around $82 million to help health care and higher education.

particularly tops pitt as chairman of the state bond commission u.n. to vote on this measure. it past the commission urging-1. you were the lone dissenting vote. is injury to continue to support district bosses a bobby jindal or describing the so called top financial person in our state you don't know what you're doing. which is it? >> governor jindal did a number of good things in louisiana, but finances was not one of them. i was at the very first person in baton rouge to stand up and say that i his decisions were going to lead us close to bankruptcy. and i paid a price for that. in the legislature, i paid a big price for that. they count my budget $500,000. i didn't complain. i took at full in the face and kept going. i was the first one to stand up and say look, governor, you

should it's been all $880 million in the medicaid trust fund. that money is supposed to be there were our elderly. i was the first one to say look y'all, it won't to take $400 billion from the retirees health insurance fund. so i will put my record of standing up against politicians of both parties who are more powerful than me up against anyone. >> so you are the facts. the refinancing save the state money and interest rate on the long-term debt actually dropped substantially. that $81.6 million helped shore up tops. regardless of what mr. kinesis come as a chief financial officer of the state he made a poor legal decision that he made a really bad financial decision on this one. these issues will come up again and we can ill afford these mistakes. on behalf of the taxpayers of louisiana as well as my colleagues who have brought this up, perhaps we should dial back on the weedkiller.

>> mr. finn has a question for mr. campbell. >> yes, mr. campbell as a tough, trusted and consumed i'm 100% pro-life. i'm also a huge supporter of the second amendment, the right to bear arms. in fact, i'm the only one on the stage tonight whose actual past a pro-gun bill into law. so here's my question. i'm confused about your position on those things. you said quote i'm scared of concealed carry. that worries me. you also said it's cold and callous not to taxpayer funding of abortions. what is your answer? >> my answer israel clear. let me state for everybody in louisiana and especially you, dr. fleming. i am pro-second amendment that i am pro-life, very, very simple. you are talking about guns. mr. fleming, you don't have as been shot and as id. i have 36 and if you more than that, i will take my hat off to

you i am a bird hundred. i passed youth hunting days in louisiana and i was a legislator for the louisiana wildlife association. i take no second simply talking about guns. i've got way too many. i am pro-life and i'm pro-gun. that's pure and simple. >> actually those are platitudes because you refuse to fill out the nra survey. you refuse to go out louisiana right to life survey. you support hillary clinton it is very much pro-abortion and very much anti-second amendment. china finally, mr. kennedy can what is your question for mr. fleming? >> thank you. john, we have been together in a lot of different forums and i've gotten to know you and i've enjoyed it. i want to tell you that. i heard you in a number of forums talk about the problems in medicare, not medicaid and medicare and social secure the.

and i was wondering tonight if you could elaborate on the problems you see what you think americans ought to do about it? >> first of all as again a proven conservative i want to save and protect social security. everyone who stayed in it, everyone who is on it and everyone was soon to be on it should have their benefits. when it comes to medicare, it runs out of money in nine years. something must be done immediately. and begin you heard me say that obamacare to $700 billion out of medicare, accelerating its demise. so i have to tell you folks, we are going to have to reform spending in washington. i look forward to working with my senate colleagues in achieving that. thank you. >> i have 30 seconds? >> moderator: yes, you do. >> i believe everybody who pay for medicare and everybody who paid for social security, i do get the medicare and salsas could be paid for. i want to reduce some of the

things they nested congress just appropriate money for. i read the federal budget just like the state budget. 1.5 million dollars to study the effects of swedish massages on by the rabbits. congress than $750,000 on a soccer field for the guantánamo bay terrorist. congress spends $370,000 to study whether mothers of dogs as much as they do their kids. maybe we could use some of that money for medicare and social security. kind of thinking that in this particular round but with going back to questions from our reporters. our next question comes from kelly. >> louisiana's economy and employment opportunities are heavily reliant on the oil and gas industry. which is at its up and downs. louisiana workers are concerned about having good jobs in a variety of industries in the future. what can you do as a senator to help create the next generation of jobs in louisiana? >> moderator: mr. kennedy, you go first.

>> here's what you need to do to grow jobs in america. number one, stop illegal immigration. it puts downward pressure on wages. number two, negotiate better trade agreements. number three, make it possible, get a tax incentive to businesses to invest money in software and machinery and equipment a new plans. that's going to great jobs and that's going to enhance productivity which will make wages go up. number four, we need to encourage american businesses and you can do it through our tax system, to try to engage in more profit sharing so employees can share in the profits. the enhanced productivity our map of the employees will pay for the whole program. number five, we've got to send our folks back to school. congress has done a lousy job with trade adjustment assistance when folks have lost their jobs due or country in terms of

helping them get reeducated. you do those things and get this economy moving again. >> when we can do that is you can help small businesses to small businesses make up over 97% of employers in louisiana. if we can ease the burdens and make it easier for people to start businesses, stay in business and help them alleviate some of the tax burdens they will be able to create more jobs. i have seen this through my work. my brother founded a regional airline that flies twice a day from new orleans this report as well as the rocket huntsville, alabama, and other regional destinations. we've had 35 solid jobs. we're going to 44. that's over 100 indirect jobs. we have to invest in small business. we people have dreams where to facilitate those dreams. the way we do this making easier to tax credits making the affordable care more affordable for small businesses in order to bring a better quality of life in louisiana. there are a few other things we

could do or and middle-class families such as equal pay for equal work. when consumers have more purchasing power they will spend more, create demand and creates more jobs and opportunities. >> first thing when he did in our people in louisiana. we've ups and downs in oilfield business. i live in the middle field, now that many people drilling. a lot of people laid off. the next thing is we need to tell the government when you get this money that's coming in, save the money because it will run out when they stop doing. that's not what we do. the next thing is make sure we get all the tax laws we can get, we get the the back to try to hp our educational program. we can stop some bad trade deals but i think with a lot of bad, i think nafta has problems. i wouldn't have voted for it cannot for the new trade deal we have either. you want to know how you can be pay for all this? the way is i would make these corporations, i would make them

come up and let's see if they create jobs or they're just giving tax incentives. we've got millions of dollars going to companies that don't produce any jobs. i would take them away, have a this district if you produce jobs i will give you tax incentives. >> thank you very much. small business startups are very, very low. we haven't seen this low a level of investment in small businesses since the '70s. we need pro-growth policy, economic growth at less than 1% is not satisfactory to create jobs in the state. we've got to get policies in place of tax reform, some of the things we talked about. but let's talk specific louisiana. we are on the campus of louisiana tech university. one of the bright spots not only in louisiana but i believe in our country. look at what is being done with cybersecurity in engineering and cross training right here. that's what we need to do more

of. we can promote innovation can bring in outside investments along with internal investment in louisiana. secondly, the energy industry is very innovative. we need to continue to build on it and stop the war on energy. stop it. finally, we need to export more. i want chinese mother the shirts off the shelf the sake made in america and in louisiana. we need trade agreements that open up markets for u.s. producers and manufacturers. that's going to be key to getting growth and creating louisiana jobs. >> well look, as a trusted conservative here tonight was great 500 jobs an, i have to tel you before noticeable. number one we need to repeal obamacare but it's the biggest job killer we have today. number two we need to repeal dodd-frank which is killing a kindred to thank everybody in this country. we also need to roll back the regulations. mr. kennedy said we should pass a bill that would do that. we already have tickets called

the reins act. i want to go to the senate so i can vote for it there. we need to reduce and semper fi taxes but have to take issue with my friend john kennedy. he read off all of these expenditures about the size of a bunny rabbits, stuff i never did support or vote for. what about the $400,000 a year that you spending taxpayer money in a very -- instead of this year that you would pay in the capital and also 300,000 of artwork you criticize bobby jindal for purchasing. that is ridiculous. that is the biggest hypocrisy of all. >> moderator: you have 30 seconds. >> he said wasn't true. congress spent $400 million to study whether lights can never exist -- life. can exist on jupiter's moons. congress appropriated $370,000

to study whether mothers love dogs as much as they love kids. congress gave $700,000 to the nation of vietnam to help them restore a buddhist temple. congress appropriated $753 million for themselves to remodel one of their buildings. think we could have built some roads in louisiana for that? >> can i say something? >> moderator: he didn't talk about you. let's wait for the next response. you have an opportunity. spirit our next question comes from greg. >> whoever wins this election louisiana but one of the most junior delegations in d.c. where seniority rules, generally. what kind of strategy would you have to overcome that wee weakns going and? how can you overcome that as a legislator in washington?

>> i think that's a good point their seniority as hud works in the senate in washington, d.c. i am 38 years of age and when i bring that up it's to emphasize that have a little bit more runway maybe bit more runway maybe the others in order to rebuild our seniority. and create some relationships that will work for us in the long haul. great, i have some for existing relationships in washington, d.c. some opponents like to make a lot of hay out of that but the truth of the matter is that will benefit louisiana. i'm going to louisiana working families first and i would invite for the state and i'll get my phone calls returned and i'm going to be wherever i need to be, 24 hours a day fight on behalf of our families. depend on what happens, we will have a new congress in january and will have a new president. president. some people maybe have some people may feel a little displaced about whoever that may be but i'm going to work as hard as i can every single day and choose the relationship relatioe built and continue to build new ones to benefit our people for the long haul.

>> some people say i'm too old. i'm younger than donald trump. i'm younger than bill clinton and i'm the same age as hillary clinton we were born in 1947. the rest of the gentlemen are all in the '60s. i know how to build a consensus but i'm doing it. i've done in the legislature. i have passed bills with republicanrepublicans and democe and i've been effective. there's nobody in louisiana he was done more for working people than foster campbell, not a one. i'm very proud of my record. i can go to washington and i know how to sheikh hands and i have a word and deny to keep it. i can use good commo common sene bringing the practice of louisiana, telling our story, getting people to the great state of louisiana. identical years and will be no big deal for me to start off immediately. i know how to get it done. >> results matter, and arguably and the most difficult political

environment using a many, many years in washington, i've been able to get results. i've been able to work with others on the other side of the aisle with the house and senate when it didn't violate principles. i've been able to stand up for things and find ways to get things done even when we were obstructed by our own leadership, case in point with the veterans clinics where john boehner and paul ryan were trying to obstruct my ability to get his clinics. i found a way to get around it. what you really need in this senator is some of the smart, who will work hard, understand the issues and knows how to get results. secondly, it's also about the relationships. i have been able to build good solid relationships. i can hit the ground running as your next senator. the one thing that matters most is getting results. i have a proven track record and i will take that to the united states senate and get results for you. >> the best way to solve this problem is to elect me and keep reelecting me, for heaven's sake. look, here is the public in washington.

it's no longer about seniority. it's about the fourth branch of government, the bureaucracy. got the truly a liberal constitutional lawyer said if congress is so weak and atrophy today it is given of all its power to the executive branch. decisions and laws and all of that are being made in the executive branch. as cofounder of the house freedom caucus i fought against the. i even fought against congressman to stand his good friend of john boehner who kept selling out to present obama. i was about to do that. we need to take the power back. our founding fathers said congress should jealously guard its powers of hundred and 90 in country and. -- you can speak through me, the representative. >> seniority does matter any niceties congress and you can call me naïve but i think big ideas matter, too. in recent years i've watched some brand-new centers making

his impact on this country. i think of senator rubio and senator cruz in santa barbara i don't agree with everything they've said or done but i think in every cell person would have to agree that had a big impact on the discussion in a vision of a america ought to go. the first thing i'm going to do in united states senate, i'm going to call and one of my colleagues, democrats and republicans, and ago and to offer to take them to lunch, or to dinner. i will buy. i just want to get to know them. whether pashtun what other interests, what other designers? why are the innocent? what do they hope to publish? i want to introduce myself. wanted out of work with everybody but i'm not going to sacrifice my principles. >> our next question comes from elizabeth with the advocate. >> senate leadership has refused to move forward with confirmation proceedings for president obama's supreme court

justice domine merrick garland. likely to die court they can seek to be filled by the next president and confirmed by the incoming senate. in the coming years even more seats could come up on the supreme court. what issues would you prioritize when considering a supreme court justice? >> we will start with mr. campbell on this one. >> i think the set out to do their job. i think i to do the job instead of holding up a nominee the if you don't like a guy can vote against them but i think any president, if he's a republican or is a democrat he is a right to have his nominee betty. first of all i was pro-life. i certainly will want to vote for a chief justice or supreme court justice as pro-life. that's one of my main considerations. i also would like to know if he is experienced and has a heart that is not coldhearted and is not completely owned by the corporations. i would like to see he's interest in middle america.

that's what i would like to see. >> i would oppose merrick garland's nomination for two reasons. one, his judicial record so far has been one always ruled in favor of expanding the predatory state. secondly, he's we got our second amendment rights. for those two reasons alone i would basically say no to his nomination. as your next senator, number one is to make sure whoever is nominated respects the constitution, understands the separation of powers in the constitution and understands that the legislative branch makes law and that the judges when you're presented with a case have to basically adjudicated based on a law and not create law. i do not want activists on the bench. secondly, i want a pro-life judge. i am conservative. i deeply believe in the pro-life cause as a position that was life-and-death issues. and second amendment is critical because that sets the court to defend this country. our second amendment rights are some of the key things i would

look at in the next candidate to be on the supreme court or any judicial appointment for that matter. >> thank you. mr. fleming. >> he or she must respect the constitution by the ghost for the as a proven conservative i would only support a justice or a federal judge who is an original is, like justice scalia. we lost a wonderful justice. he stood up for life. he stood up for the first amendment. he stood up for the second amendment. that would be very important. that would be essential. as he is senator i would only vote to confirm someone who upholds the prosecution in full, does not try to change or more of it anyway, does not talk about it being a living document that metamorphosis over time. wa..